i didn't know that but was excited when remote manipulation let me open doors on the other side. You just need pure line of sight. Also felt dumb after hearing someone say turning into small objects to get in places you couldn't reach. And tadah finally got past those bar doors. Tbh I never used the nerf gun much. And lastly when watching prey vids just cause, i coulda sworn someone used the qbeam to lower an enemy's health then finish it off with a pistol. (As if the qbeam can detonate from being shot at)
Prey is indeed everything that lasts from the Immersive sims era of the late 90's/early 00's.. It is a pure masterpiece and the kind of game I was waiting for, for years.. Tho I'm so desapointed by its "commercial failure". Clever and hard games arent good for marketing.. I really hope this genre wont def die with this game.
I feel the same. I never wanted to play Prey and did it only when my cousin told me that I really really should. I know how obnoxious he can be, so I decided to run through couple of locations, say that I've played it and that's it. And... well, I still think that Prey is one of the best games released in 2017 - year that had such games as Horizon Zero Dawn, Persona 5, Resident Evil 7, Zelda Breath of the Wild, Sonic Mania, Divinity: Original Sin 2, PC ports of Bayonetta and Vanquish, Nier: Automata and other games that I genuenly consider very good. I feel bad that for the most part it's considered as "Mediocre" or "Controversial" as it is a game that has great feel to it.
Pretty much same for me. I had no interest at all in this game at first. I think its failure, like joseph anderson said, is due to the name Prey. Prey was a game that ppl were hyped for and've been delayed and then cancelled. If this game was called System Shock 2017 or Deus Thief Metal Shock idk, it would have succeed. Lets say its that "hidden gem" that only good players with great mindset knows about.
The concept of the "Looking Glass" was the coolest thing I ever saw in a game. I wasted many hours just observing and playing around with areas that had looking glass in it.
Especially that moment, when walking into the waterfall in the Arboretum, you crash through the looking glass floor(illusion of water) into a room below, when you go back outside, you can can smash the waterfall as that's also a looking glass illusion. One of my favourite moments from the game.
Do you remember the jumpscare where you were in a box shaped LG area and you press the green button on the LG a few times only for a phantom to appear and jump on your face? (I smashed the LG by reflex when that happened :( )
@@caglarizci1105 even though I hate jump scares, this one was nicely done, and the fact that there are only few of them in the whole game made it stand out even more!
@@rosesareredbutzerglingssti9290 Hey, at least I don't spend my time trying to invalidate other ppl's opinions on the internet. Only a pettiest human being would do something like that.
@@DefactoOverlord I don't care with what you think -- this damn game lacks two very important things to *_any_* decent game: *_interesting lore_* and *_interesting enemies._* Shapeshifting blobs of oil? No thanks! I still prefer my "generic humanoid aliens", (like another idiot praising this damn game said to me once) over this kind of BS.
Lol, missing on a jewel, just because "MUH ORANGE TINTED, RADIOACTIVE COWBOY SIMULATOR", just be thankful that Todd haven't shutdown the FO4 mod of NV. fanboys of any kind are so dense.
Bernard Strauss Missing out on a above average FPS just because Bethesda, one of the sleaziest companies in gaming, refuses to make a decent sequel to one of the greatest RPGs of all time.
@@friedoysterskinsNot really, DXHR opening sucks compared to DXMD, where you're thrown into the gameplay right away and introduced to the systems. As for Bioshock, it's good, but imo it doesn't count as an immesive sims considering it's lacking what makes immersive sims in the first place.
@@Moji55a yeah bioshock is a faux-sim, I agree, but the Deus Ex thing is more subjective and I disagree, Jensen was a whole new character, it makes sense we weren't thrusted into gameplay, obviously MD will thrust you in faster since you are already familiar with things
I felt the ending needed more. The plot twist was nice but I was like that's it? I guess I just never wanted it to end. I just finished it a few days ago. I took my time since I'd go exploring.
Man the final act is terrible. After spending almost 20 hours being slow methodical, and driven, it throws such rediculous odds at you, with respawning enemies with huge health bars that can track you down, forcing you to simply run back and forth the station and for what reason? The game could pretty much have done without the entire Dahl subplot and been the better for it. I don't mind the rush when the apex arrives, but for that to happen immediately after the Dahl situation was such an odd pacing decision. If Dahl arrived half way through the game, that would have been a better break of the pace without being too forced. Also why do you need to go to the powerplant to arm the self destruct, surely that should always been completely enacted in the bridge. A part of my decision to use the nullwave, excluding that I believed it was the right thing to do, was because I cbf heading down again just to head back up. Such a shame for this otherwise, masterpiece of game to end.
The ending was good, you knew it was coming right from the first 10 hours of the game, and you knew you drew closer and closer to it. Why would it need some extra twists and shit, twists are overused anyways so the biggest twist is no twist. It was the ending you were expecting all the time, and you got what you wanted and for the people that didn't have enough, there was the after credits scene which explained quite a bunch anyways so it was a good ending, just different
@@JumalaPlays no one mentioned that it needed any twists... We are talking about the fact that the 3rd act of the game feels to be at a far lower quality than the rest of the game. Forcing a style of gameplay that was discouraged for the whole game and the actual ending being extremely brief. Like you use the nullwave, it plays a extremely short Cutscene that just validates your choice and then the credits role. The addition of the twist of the simulation is slightly better in terms of acknowledging your choices, at the cost of making it feel like all the choices you actually made were for nothing. Not saying it's bad, I liked the ending, but that doesn't mean it was perfect.
@@jockturner1547 to be fair, by the final arc you should have already explored all you needed/wanted or could, the military operators appearence kinda signal that the game is ending and you should wrap things up. Even if the last rush isnt all that great it barely lasts half an hour, so its pretty harmless
@@Farowa45 IMO, that's not a good comparison. Besides both being first-person & being published by Bethesda, the two games couldn't be any further apart. While DOOM is a hardcore action "balls-to-wall" FPS, Prey 2016 is more akin to a non-linear action-horror game that just so happens to feature guns (think a mix between Bioshock and the more recent Deus Ex games) with heavy horror elements. Think about it like this gameplay-wise: in DOOM, its about ripping & tearing demons, while in Prey, its more about outsmarting the mimics.
@@fahim102 I know the games are very different but I find PREY to be disappointing compared to DOOM, even if you know what to expect. For example I like Dishonored better than PREY and the games are more comparable than PREY and DOOM.
I watched the first half of this video when it was uploaded, but I backed out at the spoiler warning. Having just spent the last 4 straight days playing Prey, I am incredibly glad that I didn't poison my experience.
ImperialGoldfish - I've only got about 3hrs in Prey and I stopped this vid cold at the spoiler warning as well... glad you validated my decision - I wanted to keep watching SO badly!!!😀
Prey is the most underrated game of the past 5 years. It’s an absolutely phenomenal experience and it’s tragic that it doesn’t get the attention it undoubtedly deserves
Prey (2017) was one of those games I overlooked in 2017, but in 2018 i had found it on steam and I had a bit extra cash so I said why not, 1 run of the game from start to finish took 32 hours. And I loved every bit of it.
@@debashisprasadjena5075 *_I don't frigging care if this danm game is good or not!_* I wanted *_a sequel_* for the original Prey, not a goddanm "immersive sim" with a ridiculous storyline about teaching empathy to a bunch of walking tar blobs. And I *_WON'T_* change my opinion about that! *_PERIOD._*
Prey is my favorite big budget game of 2017. I loved how open ended everything felt from combat to exploration (so many different secrets/shortcuts and fantastic use of verticality!!!) to completing many objectives. Even leveling up and crafting felt fun IMO. Also, its one of those rare games that truly makes the game world feel like a real place I was struggling to make sense of because of great environmental storytelling and how most side quets tied in to your main quest. I have never felt a game world come alive as talos1 in Prey. (Bioshock1 too :))
Raycevick Good to hear! Well as long as you get so many requests, you will always have a topic to make a video about. If I weren't a broke college student I would support you on Patreon.
Yup, I'll subscribe when that video comes out. If he doesn't like the implementation of hacking in this game, I don't know where he'll be able to like it.
Your comment on games like Prey not being an 'FPS' is interesting. I've definitely heard a lot of people compare games to System Shock, but I don't think there's a name for it yet. What would you call it? Also, your comment on the instanced hacking and menus is something I never considered with games. How many times have I felt like something 'felt wrong' but not known why? Gonna have to go think about that.
Pausing the game for hacking made one of my favorite moments on Prey happen, I was fighting a Technopath that was controlling two turrets and I couldn't seem to get rid of them, so I guided him into a room with a second floor, I jumped onto him and hacked both turrets before touching the floor, switched to the stun gun and stunlocked him as the turrets did the rest of the job. Bioshock did live hacking and it worked back then because flying turrets weren't really that deadly (and you could always instantly stun them with Electrobolt or the hacking gun), in this game things are a lot deadlier up close (in Hard) and later in the game they attack you in groups, so it makes sense that Prey would pause the game for the hacking minigames.
I don't recall Prey dragging on _too_ long, but that's probably due to my habit of playing the first act of a game, forgetting I own it for two months, then finishing it.
I just bought prey on sale and have been played it for about 4 hours and i'm in love with it, not a minute goes by without me saying "that's so cool", "this is so different and interesting", or "that's so clever"
The original planned sequel was tangentially connected to the first, but that connection was still there, in the case of the game that we got, the title just seemed like a cheap cash grab on Bethesda's part. Prey(2017) should've just been a new IP, but BS just assumed that if they took the name of a franchise they had lying around that had had a highly anticipated sequel before its sudden cancellation, they'd be able to recapture that old hype, instead the Prey we got suffered because the people it was implicitly marketed to were angry that it wasn't the sequel they had already been sold on. They wanted to piggyback on a legacy & got the worst possible outcome for their trouble
This mix of loneliness, horror, questing, progression, and top notch music for every occasion made it one of the finest games I've played in the past 10 years.
Yeah I played through the game 3 times. 35 hours my first time. It's the most I've ever played a 7 out of 10 game. It's soooo good and special in many ways, but at the same time so flawed. I LOVE this better-than-average game for how spectacular it feels in it's second act. I hope to god that they make a big ambitious sequel. Something like Dead Space 2. A whole new unique world that in a part returns to Talos 1.
Consider it an absolute necessity to play this game with the Prey Interface Customizer mod. The game is a helluva lot more immersive with some of the UI's clutter out of the way.
+DrearierSpider1 I started playing Prey but stopped because I was really immersed in the game but couldn't turn off the hud and UI elements. That's something I loved in Dishonored I really wish it was in Prey by default, no idea why it wasn't. I'll definitely try this mod.
Stache it's an improvement, especially disabling waypoints is great, but i wish there was an option or a mod to make UI elements fade in and out. Disabling the healthbar means you can never see it, not even while opening the weapon wheel, but leaving it on means it's there 100% of the time. It should just fade in when you get spotted by enimies etc
You hit the nail on the head when you said that it just keeps going on and on. At the beginning of Prey, I was captivated and intrigued; at the end of Prey I was bored to be honest. Just a reminder that more can be less sometimes.
When the npc survivors immediately gave me a side quest to go back out of the space station, I literally just killed them all so I wouldn't have to sit through 2 more loading screens.
Ray, you know how much I try to stay away from this game because of how hyped I was about the original Prey 2. You've convinced me to give it a shot, which is a massive achievement. Great job as always, buddy! However, I think the issue of standard game mechanics such as inventory screens and hacking are actually a necessary evil in games like this. While I fully understand the issue of immersion breaking due to having every other aspect of the game in real-time, I see it more as a break for the audience. Similar to the quieter moments in an action film or comedic relief in a horror film, the audience NEEDS a moment to catch their breath. If said player feels constantly on edge, which most probably do during their exploration of the station, then it loses its potential effectiveness. Having the screens break the immersion, even for a moment, allows the player to take a breather and focus on one task, instead of having ANOTHER thing to worry about. While that makes sense for a thriller/horror atmosphere, if the game has an enemy that can appear out of nowhere, then it was probably a conscious decision to let those moments freeze time for the players benefit.
Haha I know, right? It's almost as if I was completely enticed by what I saw both online and in person at PAX 2011! And that when I heard the game was cancelled for idiotic corporate decisions and rebooted instead of making its own IP, I didn't want to play this game! So hilarious!
The game still looks boring and like every other typical 2017 horrorgame. Compared to the original prey 2 this is garbage, a shame, and a disgrace how this B-Game is spitting on such a legendary game with such a great universe and concept for the black goo and survival horror crap we see literally everywhere. No creativity, no enthusiasm, just something that works combined with something else that already works
OsamaBinObama Wtf do you mean the "original prey 2" ? It was never released so it easily could have been shit. Human Head studios only good game they ever made was prey 1 so it was most likely a one off for them.
My favorite aspect of Prey has to be how it accounts for such a wide variety of solutions to any and every problem you encounter, ensuring that everything down to the furniture in the room has multiple strategic uses depending on how you want to play. You can barricade doors, create strategic cover, throw them at enemies, turn them into scrap, use them to reach areas and save gloo, leverage larger objects, create pathways through electrified areas, or even assume their shape to hide amongst them or find creative ways past obstacles.
Im so glad that Errant Signal, Joseph Anderson, GMTK, even Extra Credits and now you have a video dedicated to Prey :) and each one seems to pick out a new and interesting aspect of the game to talk about
You know, about that "full immersion", one company back in the 2008 (i guess, too lazy to goggle it) gave us the answer to the question of player involvement and that was Visceral with Dead Space. It was totally immersive and was easily believable cause all the menus did not stop time and did not disconected you from Isaac, and for a horror game that was a huge win. So if developers still want from players to be maximum involved in the process and that they could easily impersonate themselves with main character, there is no better example than Dead Space i think (sorry for English, not my native language, and great video, as usual)
Серега Анип And the fact due to Dead Space 3 selling poorly they canned 4 and the series. Say what you want about 3 but I really liked the story and the brother moons. I liked Danik and his Circle crew, strangely enjoyed fighting them and necromorphs at the same time. All in all; we need a Dead Space remaster or reboot.
Hey, Raycevick! It's interesting that you mentioned Metro and The Witcher III, because those games are among the top 10/20 best games I've ever played, including the new Prey game (by the way I also played the original). I think the new Prey is a fucking masterpiece. I disagree with this statement though: "the brilliance overstays it's welcome". I would have loved to play the game more, it was so damn good (I completed it to basically 100% after roughly 30 hours). I never had the problem you mentioned with Alien: Isolation either. I absolutely loved the gameplay in that one too, it was very engaging, unique and fresh, so I was never bored. Same goes for Prey.
I recently gave prey a shot and was very impressed, it brought me back to bioshock and the feeling i got from its world. Its amazing and many games struggle to reach that balance, the immersion in the environment is everything.
I have to disagree about the third act. Yes, you are running back and forth through the ship but it's pretty neat when you have memorised those areas and know shortcuts and have invested in mobility. Kind of feels like coming back to an old area in a Metroidvania. But the main point is that I found many very important voicelogs and files in the last third of the game. I found Morgans psychological evaluation in that part. All the information I found there allowed me to really put the events that happened in order and figure out the timeline so the story/worldbuilding felt the strongest towards the end. I figured out where January and Alex stand which is an aspect that makes the third act a bit weaker because the mystery was a big part that made the first two acts so strong, but there were still loose ends like the records that you can find on some kind of disaster that persumably happened on earth, Sarahs psychological evaluation and the visions you have while in coral. Those loose ends kept me invested in the story and caused the ending to have a big impact.
I'm actually extremely surprised that you didn't enjoy Dishonored. That game fantastic IMO and the world building was top notch and it was mechanically one of the most solid controlling games I've played to this day. The skill ceiling with that game is so incredibly high that i feel like i hadn't even scratched the surface of the game's replay value. Great video man, really enjoying the channel!
Raycevick I believe the lack of overlap stems to how much people loved Dishonored. The people who loved Dishonored really loved Dishonored. Likely because the people who had just enough interest to get to push through the first few missions (the worst missions) were also the people who were able to get to the amazing part of Dishonored. Not that some people didn't like Dishonored or don't fit into those categories just that most of the people I observed seemed to be like that. Anyways those people had such high expectations after the original Dishonored that they felt like PREY 2O17 had to be amazing but those who weren't able to push through the first little bit of the game had low expectations.
Arkane won my heart with the first Dishonored. Dishonored 2 built on that and delivered an even more complete experience. And Prey goes even further. You can see the formula being refined over time, it's like watching those guys evolve and master their art with each new game that comes out. Truly a studio that deserves my money.
I loved this game.. my only issue was the cliffhanger ending. I mean the secret ending. It explained a lot, but the plot is still not complete. I want a fucking sequel.
I've just finished this game for the first time about 20 mins ago and I was really impressed with it. The ending caught me by surprise, and I was genuinely shocked to see that's how it unfolded. I honestly think Prey is easily in my top 3 games of the past 12 months. Really hope they make another!
Oh my God! Thank you! Thank you for allowing me to finally find someone who viewed both Alien: Isolation and PREY in the same manner, these are both absolutely brilliant games that boldly go beyond the normal, brainless FPS genre and bring you into a truly living environment....but they are both just too damn long. Alien: Isolation should have ended the moment you jettison the Alien via the science lab thingy, and the end scene should have had you escaping via a hatch and returning to Sevastopol, like you did in the game, and PREY should have ended before the General arrives on TALOS. Quite literally, I just couldn't bring myself to keep playing once he arrived.
yes id be interested to see his take on the game. i bought metro 1 and 2 on steam and theyre fun and immersive but the stealth is severely lacking in the games imo and it goes from stealth to cod style action sequences and im thinking. pick one or the other,. get your shit together
Bignaaasty You really shouldn't feel compelled to stick to a single play style, the point of metro's gameplay is to adapt and use whatever tools you have available to survive
I was noticing a weird stutter (or _something_ at least), but it was only noticeable when there was player movement in certain areas. Clips in the greenhouse area that has your character's brother's office/living quarters had the most noticeable amounts of the weird stutter, of what I'm referring to at least, since you could see it even when the player char was walking (especially noticeable at 2:48) from what I was noticing at least, since it's in almost just about every clip inside the station and possibly outside of it). I could be talking about something entirely unspecific to what you're talking about also (since I noticed a "weird stutter" as opposed to "lag"), or we're using different terms to talk about the same thing, but it does look like there's "lag of some kind" at least.
Stutter is one way to say it, but its not exactly stutter either. What i noticed where theese slowdowns that were most noticable when the character moved.
It could be something to do with the Occlusion Culling, I think I remember Prey 2017 getting a patch, or part of one, to fix it awhile back during it's first or second month after release so maybe needs to be tweaked/relooked at a little more if anything (some people had reported the entire space station or large portions of it became technically loaded into memory despite being in said station and it significantly impacting performance in certain areas of the game).
I will never forget my personal all -time favorite story related to this game. It was a late-game mission that had given me the objective to move some turrets from one place to the next, and I was supposed to grab some turrets from behind a door, but, when i'd first seen the turrets, I instead turned them into materials with the grenade. So I was shit out of luck and turrets. In order to complete my objective I had to sit around for an hour or so stacking boxes leading up to a suspended walkway just so that i could get some turrets. Never have I had an experience of a game that was as free as this. It's been pretty hard to find it nowadays, when most games confine you to a way to beat something the way the devs thought was best for the player.
Bioshock and Dishonored 1 and 2 had similar levels of complexity. You could approach things the way you liked, depending on what you had. Prey should've been called Neuroshock or something like that.
Joe Cucuzza The story? Lack of NG+? Most likely the fact Dishonored, even while offering a lot of freedom on how to approach situations, al the targets still have a binary way to approach them. Lethal or not. Even the story, at its core, is just so-so, even if the world building is brilliant. Prey is a lot more open ended, with more variety, more endings, more ways to approach scenarios, even better world building IMO and a better story as well.
seeing you use the gloo gun on the greenhouse wall was distressing because I had so much trouble climbing that wall with gloo for literally no reason. great video
I'm kind of on the opposite side of things with you. Dishonored grabbed me in a big way and Prey kinda left me ambivalent. A lot of it is what you described. The game drags on and on. Plus the lack of enemy variety and odd character dialogue/animation hurt the experience. Like the old Looking Glass studio characters. Except that was because of technical limitations, so what's Arkane's excuse? I don't know. Arkhane hasn't really made a game I truly love so far, but they're a developer who consistently make good stuff. I hope they can finally hit their stride and make something truly wonderful. They've clearly got the potential
Well, while it's true that obviously Arkane has better tech than Looking Glass to make more realistic characters, nowadays there is no way to make an in-game NPC feel real, so the problem, despite being reduced, will still be the same. You can only make this possible in Cutscenes if you have Naughty Dog's budget.
Yeah, that's what stopped me from getting it. Despite it having that System Shock/Bioshock-ish gameplay I like, it just looked super bland and devoid of character. It was such a turnoff that all the enemies were boring black blobs.
I'm a huge fan of Dark Messiah, one of my all time favorite games. Dishonored was alright, but Prey lost my interest pretty fast. However I'm still interested in seeing what they'll make next.
Yeah I didn’t finish it; the gameplay and story just ground to a halt close to the end with me not caring enough to continue. It just felt like stalling and busywork
I disagree that npc realism is contingent upon fully fledged cgi cutscenes (naughty dog). Witcher 3's dialogue feels fantastic, getting mentally and emotionally involved with an npc happens pretty naturally (in my opinion). But some might argue those are cutscenes too. Even so, I think it's safe to say people are satisfied with what Bethesda did with skyrim and fallout in regards to player to non-player dialogue, and those are anything but fully fledged cutscenes
This game was done beautifully. Hard to find any grasp, the story was done great and they gave us so many options for numerous playbacks. It's easy one of the best games I've ever played personally. It didn't get weaker for me, it got stronger and I got pulled in more and more
My first impressions of this game didn't really grab me and I left it alone un played for a while and moved on. Then I watched a few tips and tricks video's and said maybe it's worth a revisit, and I'm sure glad I did. Prey turned out to be one of the most enjoyable games I've ever played and found a lot of re play value in it, using different play styles and abilities each time. You really can't get all you can out of this game by only 1 play through imo. There's a little bit of a learning curve but once you get it it's an awesome gaming experience, wish there were more games like this. Loved it!
Prey 2017 had some of the worst marketing I think I have ever seen for a AAA game. It's like there was someone out there that wanted it to fail. It's criminally underappreciated and was WAY too easily forgotten.
I kind of had a lot of problems with this game. It's quite good at the beginning when every monster seems scary and dangerous but that changed quickly. The monsters quickly lost their "scariness" and the traveling just started to feel like a chore and quick enough the whole game started to feel like a chore. Saying that pray doesn't need good shooting mechanics is like having a driving game where the cars are horrible to drive but the scenery is great. Oh and the upgrade system. Why is it that every game now has to have an upgrade system? For me they take attention away from the game itself and turns it into a searching simulator. Btw, the music was annoying af. It just got old so quickly. It never stops. There isn't a quiet moment as far as I can remember. There is always something playing in the background and it was way too much for me.
i played prey. it was pretty fun, but imo the fact that enemies just respawn when you leave and reenter an area kinda sucks. i spent a ridiculous amount of time gathering everything slightly useful in the lobby and piling it in the office, and had all 3 turrets watching the door. then i came back after leaving the office and found a mimic just sitting there between two of the turrets. also, if you leave and immediately go back into a level, the enemies would have respawned. there is no delay between enemy spawns, which is doubly annoying. once you figure that out, going back to previously visited areas isnt that worth it anymore. supplies dont respawn so if you do go back its best to just run past everything. also the ending didnt surprise me in the least. dont remember what tipped me off, but i was dead sure about halfway into the game there would be a twist and that twist would be that i was a typhon myself.
This is not exactly true. Enemies respawn sometimes, but usually it takes time. Although it is a bit randomized. Initially I disliked this, but later, when my character was more powerful, it was good, since if there were no aliens, what kind of challenge would there be?
i think they respawn after some time or after some sort of mission completed objective. The waypoint system is buggy so it forced me to backtrack through the lobby multiple times and it was empty until I completed a few objectives elsewhere.
I love this game. Too many games rely on multiplayer and have either a very short single player campaign or none at all. I'll agree on criticisms of the nightmare mechanic. There could probably be a more diverse number if enemies as well. I've played through it twice and feel like the length comes down to decisions. Finding story bits in logs and terminals can feel a bit old, but I never really felt bored even going back to old locations. The one thing that bugged me was that the illusion/alt reality mechanic at the beginning wasn't really used after the first location. Overall it's the best game I've played in years though.
I disagree with your comment on the length - I absolutely loved the game and every new area to explore was more than a treat - it was more like a full-on feast. The only thing I didn't like was the strutcturing of the quests. The game didn't trust me enough to enjoy it on my own and instead decided that sending me on these riduculous fetch quests was the best way of makiing me explore, as though I didn't have enough incentive already. In a way I wish some areas, like the Bridge had been more fleshed out just to give me more exploration value.
@0:20 You're quite correct about Arkane being heavily influenced by LGS etc, one of their earlier games Arx Fatalis definitely had a Thief TDP feel to it....and also sneaking around in Dark Messiah of Might and Magic also gave me a Thief vibe.....
When I spent a minute whacking away at a chair that's spinning in place ,thinking it's a mimic , and learning that it's a actually game glitch, I should have known what the game had in story for me. On the whole, every aspect from level design (14 ways into a room does not equal level interconnectedness), fighting and stealth mechanics (the first unsatisfying, the second completely ineffective) and story (sidequests are rendered moot when you are on a ticking clock to blow up the ship anyway) varied in experience from unsatisfying to annoying. And don't get me started on the "Nightmare" which is defeated by going into a small room.
I loved how the Technopaths and Telepaths can be shot by the Gloo Gun to make them fall down and break. Upgraded that thing to full when I realized that lol
The thing about Dishonored is that it isn't great until a little later into the game. I beg anyone who comes across this comment who stopped playing before or during mission 3 to just go a little further as I believe you will find a game that will rival some of the best games you have ever played.
Steve Larry A great deal of people who play Dishonored think they are at a higher level then they are. Here what some people think vs what it actually is. What people think: Mission 1: Returning Home (Mission 1) Mission 2: Coldridge Prison (Mission 2) Mission 3: Dunwall Sewers (Mission 2) Mission 4: Arriving At The Hound Pits Pub (Mission 2) Mission 5: Distillery District 1 (Mission 3) Mission 6: The Overseer's Office (Mission 3) At this point the people who don't realize how early they are in the game usually stop. Here is how it actually is: Mission 1: Returning Home (When you are framed for the murder) Mission 2: Dishonored (From when you wake up in coldrigde to when you wake up in the hound pits) Mission 3: The High Overseer (From when you wake up to when you wake up next, you also go to the distillery district on the way there.) Mission 4: The House Of Pleasure (From when you wake up to when you go to sleep, you also go to a distinctive brothel and again are forced to go through the distillery district.) As for the rest of the ten missions featured in dishonored well... I don't want to spoil them. So yeah he probably should.
I saw you using the 'Huntress Boltcaster' to lure the zero-g exploders away. 😁 I felt like a genius when I thought of that strategy. I had so much fun in this game exploring anything and everything. There would be obstacles that seemed to require a strength upgrade to lift the objects, but then I said "F**k that!" and I used the force of explosives to move them out of my way. If there were a door that I couldn't unlock, I'd check for windows and morph into coffee cups to simply slide through their bars, like that room at 3:28
Unlocking the door with the crossbow toy is where I had the exact. same. moment. I love that simplistic interaction and it made me rethink my complete approach to the game
Ive always been kinda intresting in this game, but never bought it, now im gonna correct that mistake. Well maybe in 6 month when im back in germany and not longer in asia
I love these videos it sounds like a real review that's not based on personal opinion largely due to him listing the good the bad without a number to sum it all up.
I had the same reaction when playing the game, got about 5 hours in, but I was never invested one bit. Haven't finished it to this day. For me, one thing that I dislike is when the game punishes you for using lethal kills by giving you a bad ending.
William S Interesting. The game only seems to pick up pace once you get to Kaldwin's Bridge. But about your lethal vs non lethal comment I have to say I agree with you there. But I heavily recommend just trying to push through those first three missions because once you do you will find an incredibly deep game that will just improve from there. But I also recommend turning off the objective markers.
William S Thematically, killing everyone doesn't make sense for Corvo. A lot of the guards and henchman are just following orders. Corvo isn't supposed to be a bloodthirsty killer. Besides, playing it non lethally is far more reqarding knowing you manuevered around a heavily armed fortress without having to kill or even harm anyone in general. My main problem is that unlike Deus Ex, System Shock, etc. The game's stealth just isn't that fleshed out. It's so rudimentary and not that fun. The combat is incredibly fun so you want to play lethal.
Really love your videos. Learn so much about game design and psychology based on the prolific attention to detail you have in your writing and scripts.
wondering if you've played Horizon Zero Dawn and what you thought of it if you did? it was one of the more recent games that I was actually interested in the story and characters.
It’s also the first major game I can think of since Witcher 3 where sidequests actually had their own compelling characters and storylines instead of just being copy and paste errands, which was wonderful.
I really agree with what you said about its jump scares. Jump scares can be effective, just not when it’s scripted. Naturally occurring jump scares are fantastic.
Me: *completed story and mooncrash*
Reycevick: you can open doors with foam darts
Me: wait what!
That's what I love about Arkane games, you always find something new
Imp I also had a "woah" reaction when I thought about it myself and it worked.
I knew that
i didn't know that but was excited when remote manipulation let me open doors on the other side. You just need pure line of sight. Also felt dumb after hearing someone say turning into small objects to get in places you couldn't reach. And tadah finally got past those bar doors. Tbh I never used the nerf gun much. And lastly when watching prey vids just cause, i coulda sworn someone used the qbeam to lower an enemy's health then finish it off with a pistol. (As if the qbeam can detonate from being shot at)
I remember seeing that as a function with it in the loading screens but never used it because of hacking
Prey is indeed everything that lasts from the Immersive sims era of the late 90's/early 00's.. It is a pure masterpiece and the kind of game I was waiting for, for years.. Tho I'm so desapointed by its "commercial failure". Clever and hard games arent good for marketing.. I really hope this genre wont def die with this game.
I feel the same. I never wanted to play Prey and did it only when my cousin told me that I really really should. I know how obnoxious he can be, so I decided to run through couple of locations, say that I've played it and that's it. And... well, I still think that Prey is one of the best games released in 2017 - year that had such games as Horizon Zero Dawn, Persona 5, Resident Evil 7, Zelda Breath of the Wild, Sonic Mania, Divinity: Original Sin 2, PC ports of Bayonetta and Vanquish, Nier: Automata and other games that I genuenly consider very good. I feel bad that for the most part it's considered as "Mediocre" or "Controversial" as it is a game that has great feel to it.
Pretty much same for me. I had no interest at all in this game at first. I think its failure, like joseph anderson said, is due to the name Prey. Prey was a game that ppl were hyped for and've been delayed and then cancelled. If this game was called System Shock 2017 or Deus Thief Metal Shock idk, it would have succeed.
Lets say its that "hidden gem" that only good players with great mindset knows about.
I think it's failure is due to the lack of any marketing at all, and Bethesda being involved and the whole no reviews thing.
you are right
DrIvanRadosivic word of mouth can only go so far, which is why prey did so poorly. Same thing happened with D4.
"Jumpscare: abougi bougi boo" Yep. Sums up most horror games of the last decade or so
Stupid dog you made me look bad! OOGA BOOGA BOOGA!!!
ha ha ha cartoon reference
Nah, the jump scares are sparing and really nice, it’s not a jump scare because it blends with the world
The concept of the "Looking Glass" was the coolest thing I ever saw in a game. I wasted many hours just observing and playing around with areas that had looking glass in it.
Especially that moment, when walking into the waterfall in the Arboretum, you crash through the looking glass floor(illusion of water) into a room below, when you go back outside, you can can smash the waterfall as that's also a looking glass illusion.
One of my favourite moments from the game.
Do you remember the jumpscare where you were in a box shaped LG area and you press the green button on the LG a few times only for a phantom to appear and jump on your face?
(I smashed the LG by reflex when that happened :( )
@@00Clive00 I knew the water, but could you smash the waterfall too?!
@@caglarizci1105 Yep, there is a corridor behind it I think, been a while since I played though.
@@caglarizci1105 even though I hate jump scares, this one was nicely done, and the fact that there are only few of them in the whole game made it stand out even more!
Prey is space sci-fi done right. One of the most underrated AAA games in the past decade.
Pfff! I doubt that you have ever played any decent space sci-fi game to you to say such rubbish.
@@rosesareredbutzerglingssti9290 Hey, at least I don't spend my time trying to invalidate other ppl's opinions on the internet. Only a pettiest human being would do something like that.
@@DefactoOverlord I don't care with what you think -- this damn game lacks two very important things to *_any_* decent game: *_interesting lore_* and *_interesting enemies._* Shapeshifting blobs of oil? No thanks! I still prefer my "generic humanoid aliens", (like another idiot praising this damn game said to me once) over this kind of BS.
@nikolai 1939 Thanks.
Easily.
Prey was underrated imo
Jaxson Shoemaker It looked interesting but I refuse to buy any more Bethesda games until they let Obsidian make another Fallout game.
Kalili It's got "Bethesda" on the front of the case, so I'm not buying it. Fuck Bethesda.
Lol, missing on a jewel, just because "MUH ORANGE TINTED, RADIOACTIVE COWBOY SIMULATOR", just be thankful that Todd haven't shutdown the FO4 mod of NV. fanboys of any kind are so dense.
Bernard Strauss Missing out on a above average FPS just because Bethesda, one of the sleaziest companies in gaming, refuses to make a decent sequel to one of the greatest RPGs of all time.
"above average FPS", good thing you'll never ever gonna get another "average FPS but with numbers" from obsidian.
Prey had one of the most amazing introductions to any game.
I think most immersive sims have pretty cool intros honestly, DXHR and Bioshock come to mind
@@friedoysterskinsNot really, DXHR opening sucks compared to DXMD, where you're thrown into the gameplay right away and introduced to the systems.
As for Bioshock, it's good, but imo it doesn't count as an immesive sims considering it's lacking what makes immersive sims in the first place.
@@Moji55a yeah bioshock is a faux-sim, I agree, but the Deus Ex thing is more subjective and I disagree, Jensen was a whole new character, it makes sense we weren't thrusted into gameplay, obviously MD will thrust you in faster since you are already familiar with things
Holy Shit I got mentioned in a Raycevick video... I'm feeling so many emotions right now.
Thank you so much man! Also yet another fantastic video!
jeff peake No he's a GOD
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I h a v e l o c a t e d t h e w e e b
*Gives Raycevik the game*
*Gets mentioned for it in the video*
The gamertronshow- "omg I'm mentioned what a random surprise!!"
I love this game so damn much. My only disappointment is probably the incredibly rushed ending
I felt the ending needed more. The plot twist was nice but I was like that's it?
I guess I just never wanted it to end. I just finished it a few days ago. I took my time since I'd go exploring.
Man the final act is terrible. After spending almost 20 hours being slow methodical, and driven, it throws such rediculous odds at you, with respawning enemies with huge health bars that can track you down, forcing you to simply run back and forth the station and for what reason?
The game could pretty much have done without the entire Dahl subplot and been the better for it.
I don't mind the rush when the apex arrives, but for that to happen immediately after the Dahl situation was such an odd pacing decision.
If Dahl arrived half way through the game, that would have been a better break of the pace without being too forced.
Also why do you need to go to the powerplant to arm the self destruct, surely that should always been completely enacted in the bridge. A part of my decision to use the nullwave, excluding that I believed it was the right thing to do, was because I cbf heading down again just to head back up.
Such a shame for this otherwise, masterpiece of game to end.
The ending was good, you knew it was coming right from the first 10 hours of the game, and you knew you drew closer and closer to it. Why would it need some extra twists and shit, twists are overused anyways so the biggest twist is no twist.
It was the ending you were expecting all the time, and you got what you wanted and for the people that didn't have enough, there was the after credits scene which explained quite a bunch anyways so it was a good ending, just different
@@JumalaPlays no one mentioned that it needed any twists... We are talking about the fact that the 3rd act of the game feels to be at a far lower quality than the rest of the game. Forcing a style of gameplay that was discouraged for the whole game and the actual ending being extremely brief. Like you use the nullwave, it plays a extremely short Cutscene that just validates your choice and then the credits role.
The addition of the twist of the simulation is slightly better in terms of acknowledging your choices, at the cost of making it feel like all the choices you actually made were for nothing. Not saying it's bad, I liked the ending, but that doesn't mean it was perfect.
@@jockturner1547 to be fair, by the final arc you should have already explored all you needed/wanted or could, the military operators appearence kinda signal that the game is ending and you should wrap things up.
Even if the last rush isnt all that great it barely lasts half an hour, so its pretty harmless
Prey's soundtrack was composed by the same guy behind DOOM's soundtrack.
'nuff said buy the game.
REALLY? holy shit! I loved it and it sounded similar but had no idea...
Except DOOM is a far better game than Prey to me. Didn't like it all =/
He also creates a amazing soundtracks for new Wolfeinsteins. Prey is the weakest of his work.
@@Farowa45 IMO, that's not a good comparison. Besides both being first-person & being published by Bethesda, the two games couldn't be any further apart.
While DOOM is a hardcore action "balls-to-wall" FPS, Prey 2016 is more akin to a non-linear action-horror game that just so happens to feature guns (think a mix between Bioshock and the more recent Deus Ex games) with heavy horror elements.
Think about it like this gameplay-wise: in DOOM, its about ripping & tearing demons, while in Prey, its more about outsmarting the mimics.
@@fahim102 I know the games are very different but I find PREY to be disappointing compared to DOOM, even if you know what to expect. For example I like Dishonored better than PREY and the games are more comparable than PREY and DOOM.
I watched the first half of this video when it was uploaded, but I backed out at the spoiler warning. Having just spent the last 4 straight days playing Prey, I am incredibly glad that I didn't poison my experience.
ImperialGoldfish - I've only got about 3hrs in Prey and I stopped this vid cold at the spoiler warning as well... glad you validated my decision - I wanted to keep watching SO badly!!!😀
Prey is the most underrated game of the past 5 years. It’s an absolutely phenomenal experience and it’s tragic that it doesn’t get the attention it undoubtedly deserves
I’ll never forget the first time I stacked boxes on top of a desk, turned into a cup, and got into a room I couldn’t find the key for.
Prey (2017) was one of those games I overlooked in 2017, but in 2018 i had found it on steam and I had a bit extra cash so I said why not, 1 run of the game from start to finish took 32 hours. And I loved every bit of it.
There’s something exhilarating about exploring Talos 1. Even on my 3rd play through I just love picking up the notes and audio logs.
Prey is most underrated gott of 2017. Music, gameplay, atmosphere, addictive loop
F*ck that crap. I want a remaster of the original Prey (Prey'06) -- the only true Prey that matters.
@@debashisprasadjena5075 *_Yes, I'm salty!_* And I will continue to be salty while my favorite game (Prey 2006) don't get a well deserved sequel.
@@debashisprasadjena5075 *_I don't frigging care if this danm game is good or not!_* I wanted *_a sequel_* for the original Prey, not a goddanm "immersive sim" with a ridiculous storyline about teaching empathy to a bunch of walking tar blobs. And I *_WON'T_* change my opinion about that! *_PERIOD._*
@@debashisprasadjena5075 "GoW 2018"?!? Are you talking about Gears of War? Of course I like of it.
@@debashisprasadjena5075 Never played it. Fantasy and Greek Mythology aren't my thing -- I prefer science fiction.
Enjoyed the comedic edits in this one! Keep it up :)
Ok verified man
Prey is my favorite big budget game of 2017. I loved how open ended everything felt from combat to exploration (so many different secrets/shortcuts and fantastic use of verticality!!!) to completing many objectives. Even leveling up and crafting felt fun IMO. Also, its one of those rare games that truly makes the game world feel like a real place I was struggling to make sense of because of great environmental storytelling and how most side quets tied in to your main quest. I have never felt a game world come alive as talos1 in Prey. (Bioshock1 too :))
when i first met january i destroyed her, i got achievement for that, best game
If you kill Alex, you get an achievement called "pushed the fat man"
I wanted to play with December.
Can't wait to see a "So I've finally played... NieR: Automata" video.
Keep up the good work Ray!
Wouldn't count on it, based on the conversations we've had with Ray in the Patreon discord, I don't see it happening anytime soon.
I'll play it eventually; just have so many games to get through.
Raycevick Good to hear! Well as long as you get so many requests, you will always have a topic to make a video about. If I weren't a broke college student I would support you on Patreon.
Yup, I'll subscribe when that video comes out.
If he doesn't like the implementation of hacking in this game, I don't know where he'll be able to like it.
@Novem the Reasonable Gamer
Oh fuck, it's not THAT good lmao.
Your comment on games like Prey not being an 'FPS' is interesting. I've definitely heard a lot of people compare games to System Shock, but I don't think there's a name for it yet. What would you call it?
Also, your comment on the instanced hacking and menus is something I never considered with games. How many times have I felt like something 'felt wrong' but not known why? Gonna have to go think about that.
This type of games are called Immersive Sims.
There is a name for it. These games are called Immersive Sims. Dig through Errant Signals video essays and you'll find a lot on that.
It's called "a rip-off of SS2, Bioshock and other good games made by people who don't know how to make good games"
BOLTdm oh are you butthurt mommy didn't buy it for you
They’re called immersive sims, which is basically “its kinda FPS but not really but its also kinda RPG but not really” or whatever the OG Deus Ex was.
Pausing the game for hacking made one of my favorite moments on Prey happen, I was fighting a Technopath that was controlling two turrets and I couldn't seem to get rid of them, so I guided him into a room with a second floor, I jumped onto him and hacked both turrets before touching the floor, switched to the stun gun and stunlocked him as the turrets did the rest of the job.
Bioshock did live hacking and it worked back then because flying turrets weren't really that deadly (and you could always instantly stun them with Electrobolt or the hacking gun), in this game things are a lot deadlier up close (in Hard) and later in the game they attack you in groups, so it makes sense that Prey would pause the game for the hacking minigames.
I don't recall Prey dragging on _too_ long, but that's probably due to my habit of playing the first act of a game, forgetting I own it for two months, then finishing it.
That toy gun realization made me shit myself too. They thought of *everything*
you can also stick grenades to things as mines
your channel is so underatted
Yet, his work is very interesting. I like (no sarcasm) how he takes pride in this when he puts on his name in the videos.
This game is so underrated
I just bought prey on sale and have been played it for about 4 hours and i'm in love with it, not a minute goes by without me saying "that's so cool", "this is so different and interesting", or "that's so clever"
I'm not saying this game is bad. Absolutely not. I think it's a fantastic game
But parkour/wallrunning bounty hunter in an alien city... Hell yeah.
xD It probably woulda been shit
xD Blame Bethesda for that. This game wasn't even supposed to be called Prey until Bethesda slapped the name on it.
I mean the original Prey 2 had almost nothing to do with the first Prey.
The original planned sequel was tangentially connected to the first, but that connection was still there, in the case of the game that we got, the title just seemed like a cheap cash grab on Bethesda's part. Prey(2017) should've just been a new IP, but BS just assumed that if they took the name of a franchise they had lying around that had had a highly anticipated sequel before its sudden cancellation, they'd be able to recapture that old hype, instead the Prey we got suffered because the people it was implicitly marketed to were angry that it wasn't the sequel they had already been sold on. They wanted to piggyback on a legacy & got the worst possible outcome for their trouble
You mean Spider-Man 3 where you were covered by the symbiote so technically you were part alien
Hey Ive seen Adam Bruce and Lawrence!
This mix of loneliness, horror, questing, progression, and top notch music for every occasion made it one of the finest games I've played in the past 10 years.
Yeah I played through the game 3 times. 35 hours my first time. It's the most I've ever played a 7 out of 10 game. It's soooo good and special in many ways, but at the same time so flawed. I LOVE this better-than-average game for how spectacular it feels in it's second act. I hope to god that they make a big ambitious sequel. Something like Dead Space 2. A whole new unique world that in a part returns to Talos 1.
Mayonnaise man is here.
This deserves so, so much more than a 13 minute video.
12:17 to 12:24 *Loses my respect but instantly gains it back*
Consider it an absolute necessity to play this game with the Prey Interface Customizer mod. The game is a helluva lot more immersive with some of the UI's clutter out of the way.
+DrearierSpider1 I started playing Prey but stopped because I was really immersed in the game but couldn't turn off the hud and UI elements. That's something I loved in Dishonored I really wish it was in Prey by default, no idea why it wasn't. I'll definitely try this mod.
Stache it's an improvement, especially disabling waypoints is great, but i wish there was an option or a mod to make UI elements fade in and out. Disabling the healthbar means you can never see it, not even while opening the weapon wheel, but leaving it on means it's there 100% of the time. It should just fade in when you get spotted by enimies etc
@@wile123456 Pretty sure you can check health by looking at your PDA thing
"aboogiewoogiewoo"
Singlehandedly the best line ever. Period.
Prey is fantastic and probably one of best games this year or last few years
You hit the nail on the head when you said that it just keeps going on and on. At the beginning of Prey, I was captivated and intrigued; at the end of Prey I was bored to be honest. Just a reminder that more can be less sometimes.
When the npc survivors immediately gave me a side quest to go back out of the space station, I literally just killed them all so I wouldn't have to sit through 2 more loading screens.
Make one on Metro :P !
Ray, you know how much I try to stay away from this game because of how hyped I was about the original Prey 2. You've convinced me to give it a shot, which is a massive achievement. Great job as always, buddy!
However, I think the issue of standard game mechanics such as inventory screens and hacking are actually a necessary evil in games like this. While I fully understand the issue of immersion breaking due to having every other aspect of the game in real-time, I see it more as a break for the audience.
Similar to the quieter moments in an action film or comedic relief in a horror film, the audience NEEDS a moment to catch their breath. If said player feels constantly on edge, which most probably do during their exploration of the station, then it loses its potential effectiveness. Having the screens break the immersion, even for a moment, allows the player to take a breather and focus on one task, instead of having ANOTHER thing to worry about. While that makes sense for a thriller/horror atmosphere, if the game has an enemy that can appear out of nowhere, then it was probably a conscious decision to let those moments freeze time for the players benefit.
Haha I know, right? It's almost as if I was completely enticed by what I saw both online and in person at PAX 2011! And that when I heard the game was cancelled for idiotic corporate decisions and rebooted instead of making its own IP, I didn't want to play this game!
So hilarious!
Really? He convinced me to keep staying away from it, I'll never quite get over Prey 2.
The game still looks boring and like every other typical 2017 horrorgame. Compared to the original prey 2 this is garbage, a shame, and a disgrace how this B-Game is spitting on such a legendary game with such a great universe and concept for the black goo and survival horror crap we see literally everywhere. No creativity, no enthusiasm, just something that works combined with something else that already works
OsamaBinObama Wtf do you mean the "original prey 2" ? It was never released so it easily could have been shit. Human Head studios only good game they ever made was prey 1 so it was most likely a one off for them.
Stop mourning over Prey 2 and move on.
My favorite aspect of Prey has to be how it accounts for such a wide variety of solutions to any and every problem you encounter, ensuring that everything down to the furniture in the room has multiple strategic uses depending on how you want to play. You can barricade doors, create strategic cover, throw them at enemies, turn them into scrap, use them to reach areas and save gloo, leverage larger objects, create pathways through electrified areas, or even assume their shape to hide amongst them or find creative ways past obstacles.
I stepped out of the helicopter at the start, jumped on the front of it, and jumped and died from the helicopter blades. I haven't played it since.
Damn, I've gotta try that next time.
There's and achievement for it.
Im so glad that Errant Signal, Joseph Anderson, GMTK, even Extra Credits and now you have a video dedicated to Prey :) and each one seems to pick out a new and interesting aspect of the game to talk about
So I have finally preyed - FTFY
You know, about that "full immersion", one company back in the 2008 (i guess, too lazy to goggle it) gave us the answer to the question of player involvement and that was Visceral with Dead Space. It was totally immersive and was easily believable cause all the menus did not stop time and did not disconected you from Isaac, and for a horror game that was a huge win. So if developers still want from players to be maximum involved in the process and that they could easily impersonate themselves with main character, there is no better example than Dead Space i think (sorry for English, not my native language, and great video, as usual)
I envy that of Dead Space, I wish I could care more about that series.
Raycevick well, it was good, especially first two games, until EA happened, i think for them its common practice to ruin something that working great
Серега Анип I wish Dead Space wasn't murdered...
James Young same, especially after videos about how supposed to be Dead Space 3
Серега Анип And the fact due to Dead Space 3 selling poorly they canned 4 and the series.
Say what you want about 3 but I really liked the story and the brother moons. I liked Danik and his Circle crew, strangely enjoyed fighting them and necromorphs at the same time. All in all; we need a Dead Space remaster or reboot.
YES!!! Finally! Someone appreciates Arkane studios and how amazing they are at environmental storytelling. Thank you Raycevick
Hey, Raycevick! It's interesting that you mentioned Metro and The Witcher III, because those games are among the top 10/20 best games I've ever played, including the new Prey game (by the way I also played the original). I think the new Prey is a fucking masterpiece. I disagree with this statement though: "the brilliance overstays it's welcome". I would have loved to play the game more, it was so damn good (I completed it to basically 100% after roughly 30 hours). I never had the problem you mentioned with Alien: Isolation either. I absolutely loved the gameplay in that one too, it was very engaging, unique and fresh, so I was never bored. Same goes for Prey.
I recently gave prey a shot and was very impressed, it brought me back to bioshock and the feeling i got from its world. Its amazing and many games struggle to reach that balance, the immersion in the environment is everything.
Exactly
That few seconds of Soldier of Fortune has brought upon flashbacks like i've never experienced before.
Dishonored was *nearly* perfect imo, it’s still one of my favorite games.
Prey may very well have beaten it though.
I have to disagree about the third act.
Yes, you are running back and forth through the ship but it's pretty neat when you have memorised those areas and know shortcuts and have invested in mobility. Kind of feels like coming back to an old area in a Metroidvania.
But the main point is that I found many very important voicelogs and files in the last third of the game. I found Morgans psychological evaluation in that part. All the information I found there allowed me to really put the events that happened in order and figure out the timeline so the story/worldbuilding felt the strongest towards the end.
I figured out where January and Alex stand which is an aspect that makes the third act a bit weaker because the mystery was a big part that made the first two acts so strong, but there were still loose ends like the records that you can find on some kind of disaster that persumably happened on earth, Sarahs psychological evaluation and the visions you have while in coral. Those loose ends kept me invested in the story and caused the ending to have a big impact.
Not to mention the hostage situation with the bad guy was the perfect definition of tension building
I'm actually extremely surprised that you didn't enjoy Dishonored. That game fantastic IMO and the world building was top notch and it was mechanically one of the most solid controlling games I've played to this day. The skill ceiling with that game is so incredibly high that i feel like i hadn't even scratched the surface of the game's replay value. Great video man, really enjoying the channel!
Glad you liked it, however... Prey left me feeling a little bit hollow, the opposite of how I felt with Dishonored. To each their own my man.
It seems there isn't as much overlap with the two franchise's players as I expected. Fascinating.
I'm in the middle of that Venn diagram. Loved both!
Raycevick
Do a video on how gaming was destroyed
Downward Thrust I heard it requires multiple playthrus to get the full experience.
Raycevick I believe the lack of overlap stems to how much people loved Dishonored. The people who loved Dishonored really loved Dishonored. Likely because the people who had just enough interest to get to push through the first few missions (the worst missions) were also the people who were able to get to the amazing part of Dishonored. Not that some people didn't like Dishonored or don't fit into those categories just that most of the people I observed seemed to be like that. Anyways those people had such high expectations after the original Dishonored that they felt like PREY 2O17 had to be amazing but those who weren't able to push through the first little bit of the game had low expectations.
Played it 5 times, differently every time. One of the best games of this year, hands down
Arkane won my heart with the first Dishonored.
Dishonored 2 built on that and delivered an even more complete experience.
And Prey goes even further. You can see the formula being refined over time, it's like watching those guys evolve and master their art with each new game that comes out.
Truly a studio that deserves my money.
I loved this game.. my only issue was the cliffhanger ending.
I mean the secret ending. It explained a lot, but the plot is still not complete.
I want a fucking sequel.
Dude, the way you review games, are a blessing to your audience.
Thank you for all the time and effort you put in these.
>pineapple is acceptable on pizza
You filty traitor.
unsubbed
I think it's okay...
It's not okay.
So that's why you massacred all those people at the airport...
They were saying that pineapple is okay!
I've just finished this game for the first time about 20 mins ago and I was really impressed with it. The ending caught me by surprise, and I was genuinely shocked to see that's how it unfolded. I honestly think Prey is easily in my top 3 games of the past 12 months. Really hope they make another!
Such a fantastic game. Shame about the studio closure. Never getting the sequel it deserves
Oh my God! Thank you! Thank you for allowing me to finally find someone who viewed both Alien: Isolation and PREY in the same manner, these are both absolutely brilliant games that boldly go beyond the normal, brainless FPS genre and bring you into a truly living environment....but they are both just too damn long.
Alien: Isolation should have ended the moment you jettison the Alien via the science lab thingy, and the end scene should have had you escaping via a hatch and returning to Sevastopol, like you did in the game, and PREY should have ended before the General arrives on TALOS. Quite literally, I just couldn't bring myself to keep playing once he arrived.
If you did a video on Metro that'd be sweet. It deserves more critical analysis
It really does
YES! Severely underplayed games that deserve way more attention.
yes id be interested to see his take on the game. i bought metro 1 and 2 on steam and theyre fun and immersive but the stealth is severely lacking in the games imo and it goes from stealth to cod style action sequences and im thinking. pick one or the other,. get your shit together
Bignaaasty
You really shouldn't feel compelled to stick to a single play style, the point of metro's gameplay is to adapt and use whatever tools you have available to survive
Yes please. One of the most underrated series to date.
Can we also take a minute to appreciate the absolutely stellar soundtrack?
The entire Audio Design is top-notch, a lot of people recognize Mick Gordon from his work in Doom 2016, but for me, it's Prey.
Is it just me or is there a "lag" in the video of the gameplay?
I was noticing a weird stutter (or _something_ at least), but it was only noticeable when there was player movement in certain areas. Clips in the greenhouse area that has your character's brother's office/living quarters had the most noticeable amounts of the weird stutter, of what I'm referring to at least, since you could see it even when the player char was walking (especially noticeable at 2:48) from what I was noticing at least, since it's in almost just about every clip inside the station and possibly outside of it).
I could be talking about something entirely unspecific to what you're talking about also (since I noticed a "weird stutter" as opposed to "lag"), or we're using different terms to talk about the same thing, but it does look like there's "lag of some kind" at least.
Stutter is one way to say it, but its not exactly stutter either. What i noticed where theese slowdowns that were most noticable when the character moved.
It could be something to do with the Occlusion Culling, I think I remember Prey 2017 getting a patch, or part of one, to fix it awhile back during it's first or second month after release so maybe needs to be tweaked/relooked at a little more if anything (some people had reported the entire space station or large portions of it became technically loaded into memory despite being in said station and it significantly impacting performance in certain areas of the game).
I will never forget my personal all -time favorite story related to this game. It was a late-game mission that had given me the objective to move some turrets from one place to the next, and I was supposed to grab some turrets from behind a door, but, when i'd first seen the turrets, I instead turned them into materials with the grenade. So I was shit out of luck and turrets. In order to complete my objective I had to sit around for an hour or so stacking boxes leading up to a suspended walkway just so that i could get some turrets. Never have I had an experience of a game that was as free as this. It's been pretty hard to find it nowadays, when most games confine you to a way to beat something the way the devs thought was best for the player.
Bioshock and Dishonored 1 and 2 had similar levels of complexity. You could approach things the way you liked, depending on what you had. Prey should've been called Neuroshock or something like that.
What specifically did you not like about dishonored 1? I thought it was a great game. Also, have you played 2. Did it improve the expression for you?
Joe Cucuzza The story? Lack of NG+? Most likely the fact Dishonored, even while offering a lot of freedom on how to approach situations, al the targets still have a binary way to approach them. Lethal or not. Even the story, at its core, is just so-so, even if the world building is brilliant. Prey is a lot more open ended, with more variety, more endings, more ways to approach scenarios, even better world building IMO and a better story as well.
I like for honor mor
seeing you use the gloo gun on the greenhouse wall was distressing because I had so much trouble climbing that wall with gloo for literally no reason. great video
Annnnd Ray loves Inbox. God you just keep getting better and better.
Prey was just amazing. Really enoyed the 40 hour experience. Put it on the hardest difficulty and enjoy the experience.
I'm kind of on the opposite side of things with you. Dishonored grabbed me in a big way and Prey kinda left me ambivalent. A lot of it is what you described. The game drags on and on. Plus the lack of enemy variety and odd character dialogue/animation hurt the experience. Like the old Looking Glass studio characters. Except that was because of technical limitations, so what's Arkane's excuse? I don't know. Arkhane hasn't really made a game I truly love so far, but they're a developer who consistently make good stuff. I hope they can finally hit their stride and make something truly wonderful. They've clearly got the potential
Well, while it's true that obviously Arkane has better tech than Looking Glass to make more realistic characters, nowadays there is no way to make an in-game NPC feel real, so the problem, despite being reduced, will still be the same. You can only make this possible in Cutscenes if you have Naughty Dog's budget.
Yeah, that's what stopped me from getting it. Despite it having that System Shock/Bioshock-ish gameplay I like, it just looked super bland and devoid of character.
It was such a turnoff that all the enemies were boring black blobs.
I'm a huge fan of Dark Messiah, one of my all time favorite games. Dishonored was alright, but Prey lost my interest pretty fast. However I'm still interested in seeing what they'll make next.
Yeah I didn’t finish it; the gameplay and story just ground to a halt close to the end with me not caring enough to continue. It just felt like stalling and busywork
I disagree that npc realism is contingent upon fully fledged cgi cutscenes (naughty dog). Witcher 3's dialogue feels fantastic, getting mentally and emotionally involved with an npc happens pretty naturally (in my opinion). But some might argue those are cutscenes too. Even so, I think it's safe to say people are satisfied with what Bethesda did with skyrim and fallout in regards to player to non-player dialogue, and those are anything but fully fledged cutscenes
The best review of Prey on RUclips in my opinion.. I find Prey to be a hugely hugely underrated gem of this generation...
This game was done beautifully. Hard to find any grasp, the story was done great and they gave us so many options for numerous playbacks. It's easy one of the best games I've ever played personally. It didn't get weaker for me, it got stronger and I got pulled in more and more
My first impressions of this game didn't really grab me and I left it alone un played for a while and moved on. Then I watched a few tips and tricks video's and said maybe it's worth a revisit, and I'm sure glad I did. Prey turned out to be one of the most enjoyable games I've ever played and found a lot of re play value in it, using different play styles and abilities each time. You really can't get all you can out of this game by only 1 play through imo. There's a little bit of a learning curve but once you get it it's an awesome gaming experience, wish there were more games like this. Loved it!
What a beautiful, fun and underrated game.
“My skill Is determined with how tight the characters pants are.” Words to live by.
Prey 2017 had some of the worst marketing I think I have ever seen for a AAA game. It's like there was someone out there that wanted it to fail. It's criminally underappreciated and was WAY too easily forgotten.
0:32
"...but it's execution."
*leans around corner while holing large knife *
I kind of had a lot of problems with this game. It's quite good at the beginning when every monster seems scary and dangerous but that changed quickly. The monsters quickly lost their "scariness" and the traveling just started to feel like a chore and quick enough the whole game started to feel like a chore. Saying that pray doesn't need good shooting mechanics is like having a driving game where the cars are horrible to drive but the scenery is great. Oh and the upgrade system. Why is it that every game now has to have an upgrade system? For me they take attention away from the game itself and turns it into a searching simulator. Btw, the music was annoying af. It just got old so quickly. It never stops. There isn't a quiet moment as far as I can remember. There is always something playing in the background and it was way too much for me.
Raycevick is the best gaming channel out there right now.
i played prey. it was pretty fun, but imo the fact that enemies just respawn when you leave and reenter an area kinda sucks. i spent a ridiculous amount of time gathering everything slightly useful in the lobby and piling it in the office, and had all 3 turrets watching the door.
then i came back after leaving the office and found a mimic just sitting there between two of the turrets.
also, if you leave and immediately go back into a level, the enemies would have respawned. there is no delay between enemy spawns, which is doubly annoying. once you figure that out, going back to previously visited areas isnt that worth it anymore. supplies dont respawn so if you do go back its best to just run past everything.
also the ending didnt surprise me in the least. dont remember what tipped me off, but i was dead sure about halfway into the game there would be a twist and that twist would be that i was a typhon myself.
actually no they don't respawn
This is not exactly true. Enemies respawn sometimes, but usually it takes time. Although it is a bit randomized. Initially I disliked this, but later, when my character was more powerful, it was good, since if there were no aliens, what kind of challenge would there be?
i think they respawn after some time or after some sort of mission completed objective. The waypoint system is buggy so it forced me to backtrack through the lobby multiple times and it was empty until I completed a few objectives elsewhere.
Ray, I'm not mad that you can't see the brilliance of dishonered just utterly disappointed.
I'm a simple man, I see Raycevick and I click
original
I bet you left satisfied he likes pineapples on pizza
Unsung Senpai god no man. I'm unoriginal not a monster
lmao, well played on that reply comment...well played.....
I love this game. Too many games rely on multiplayer and have either a very short single player campaign or none at all.
I'll agree on criticisms of the nightmare mechanic. There could probably be a more diverse number if enemies as well. I've played through it twice and feel like the length comes down to decisions. Finding story bits in logs and terminals can feel a bit old, but I never really felt bored even going back to old locations.
The one thing that bugged me was that the illusion/alt reality mechanic at the beginning wasn't really used after the first location. Overall it's the best game I've played in years though.
I disagree with your comment on the length - I absolutely loved the game and every new area to explore was more than a treat - it was more like a full-on feast. The only thing I didn't like was the strutcturing of the quests. The game didn't trust me enough to enjoy it on my own and instead decided that sending me on these riduculous fetch quests was the best way of makiing me explore, as though I didn't have enough incentive already. In a way I wish some areas, like the Bridge had been more fleshed out just to give me more exploration value.
Agreed
@0:20 You're quite correct about Arkane being heavily influenced by LGS etc, one of their earlier games Arx Fatalis definitely had a Thief TDP feel to it....and also sneaking around in Dark Messiah of Might and Magic also gave me a Thief vibe.....
I see you're a vintage Machinima man
When I spent a minute whacking away at a chair that's spinning in place ,thinking it's a mimic , and learning that it's a actually game glitch, I should have known what the game had in story for me. On the whole, every aspect from level design (14 ways into a room does not equal level interconnectedness), fighting and stealth mechanics (the first unsatisfying, the second completely ineffective) and story (sidequests are rendered moot when you are on a ticking clock to blow up the ship anyway) varied in experience from unsatisfying to annoying. And don't get me started on the "Nightmare" which is defeated by going into a small room.
I spotted little funhaus men!!!!!
Abdul Latif That was the good old days of inside gaming
I know...but im glad they got to continue with funhaus
Abdul Latif Yeah though it's sad without Joel and Spoole
Yeah but it was their own decision to leave
And you get to see the occasional joel pop up in random videos so its kinda like a special treat
I loved how the Technopaths and Telepaths can be shot by the Gloo Gun to make them fall down and break.
Upgraded that thing to full when I realized that lol
The thing about Dishonored is that it isn't great until a little later into the game. I beg anyone who comes across this comment who stopped playing before or during mission 3 to just go a little further as I believe you will find a game that will rival some of the best games you have ever played.
I think I got to Mission 6 or 7 where I gave up. That was years ago though, perhaps I'll try again.
Please do.
Steve Larry A great deal of people who play Dishonored think they are at a higher level then they are. Here what some people think vs what it actually is.
What people think:
Mission 1: Returning Home (Mission 1)
Mission 2: Coldridge Prison (Mission 2)
Mission 3: Dunwall Sewers (Mission 2)
Mission 4: Arriving At The Hound Pits Pub (Mission 2)
Mission 5: Distillery District 1 (Mission 3)
Mission 6: The Overseer's Office (Mission 3)
At this point the people who don't realize how early they are in the game usually stop.
Here is how it actually is:
Mission 1: Returning Home (When you are framed for the murder)
Mission 2: Dishonored (From when you wake up in coldrigde to when you wake up in the hound pits)
Mission 3: The High Overseer (From when you wake up to when you wake up next, you also go to the distillery district on the way there.)
Mission 4: The House Of Pleasure (From when you wake up to when you go to sleep, you also go to a distinctive brothel and again are forced to go through the distillery district.)
As for the rest of the ten missions featured in dishonored well... I don't want to spoil them. So yeah he probably should.
Both systems are confusing. Just stick with location names.
Steve Larry I know my way is weird but it is how the game categorizes the missions.
I was not bothered by the padding, but then again I am a completionist, I get bothered if I DON'T do everything.
Hey Raycevick pls do an in-depth analysis on cuphead and what makes it good!
dont, just go and watch Downward Thrust
But no comparisons to Dark souls please 😋
Cup Head Prepare to die edition
Nick Wompton screw that! A hat in time 🎩 deserves more attention.
I completely agree! Hat in Time is sorely needing more attention right now
I saw you using the 'Huntress Boltcaster' to lure the zero-g exploders away. 😁 I felt like a genius when I thought of that strategy. I had so much fun in this game exploring anything and everything. There would be obstacles that seemed to require a strength upgrade to lift the objects, but then I said "F**k that!" and I used the force of explosives to move them out of my way. If there were a door that I couldn't unlock, I'd check for windows and morph into coffee cups to simply slide through their bars, like that room at 3:28
RIP Arkane
Unlocking the door with the crossbow toy is where I had the exact. same. moment. I love that simplistic interaction and it made me rethink my complete approach to the game
Ive always been kinda intresting in this game, but never bought it, now im gonna correct that mistake.
Well maybe in 6 month when im back in germany and not longer in asia
I love these videos it sounds like a real review that's not based on personal opinion largely due to him listing the good the bad without a number to sum it all up.
So what don't you like about Dishonored?
I had the same reaction when playing the game, got about 5 hours in, but I was never invested one bit. Haven't finished it to this day.
For me, one thing that I dislike is when the game punishes you for using lethal kills by giving you a bad ending.
William S Interesting. The game only seems to pick up pace once you get to Kaldwin's Bridge. But about your lethal vs non lethal comment I have to say I agree with you there. But I heavily recommend just trying to push through those first three missions because once you do you will find an incredibly deep game that will just improve from there. But I also recommend turning off the objective markers.
+Razor Prime
I will probably give it another shot someday, since it's just sitting there in my steam library.
William S Thematically, killing everyone doesn't make sense for Corvo. A lot of the guards and henchman are just following orders. Corvo isn't supposed to be a bloodthirsty killer.
Besides, playing it non lethally is far more reqarding knowing you manuevered around a heavily armed fortress without having to kill or even harm anyone in general.
My main problem is that unlike Deus Ex, System Shock, etc. The game's stealth just isn't that fleshed out. It's so rudimentary and not that fun. The combat is incredibly fun so you want to play lethal.
The stealth in Deus Ex and System Shock is hardly more advanced than in Dishonored.
Really love your videos. Learn so much about game design and psychology based on the prolific attention to detail you have in your writing and scripts.
wondering if you've played Horizon Zero Dawn and what you thought of it if you did? it was one of the more recent games that I was actually interested in the story and characters.
Hopefully the expansion delivers as well
It’s also the first major game I can think of since Witcher 3 where sidequests actually had their own compelling characters and storylines instead of just being copy and paste errands, which was wonderful.
Thinking about getting this but just backlog is too damn big
Joe Cucuzza definitely worth playing! very well done game. play it as soon as you can and good luck with the backlog ha ha
The characters and the arcs for them were really generic boring, and unnecasarry imo.
I really agree with what you said about its jump scares. Jump scares can be effective, just not when it’s scripted. Naturally occurring jump scares are fantastic.