Just for reference: May 2009 was when Platinum was still the newest pokemon game and HGSS were only just announced. Crazy to think that this build existed during that time with some finalized gen 5 designs being present.
To me, It always have been obviuous that they had been developed these games since at least early/mid 2008. This just confirms some theories that some people have had since many years ago.
it's honestly crazy to think that while we're enjoying the new releases, their already working on the next entries, now that we've seen it in years like 2008/9 its crazy.
It's even crazier that they MAYBE understood only in 2024 that this production rhythm is unstable nowadays. Scarlet and Violet are the proves. Let's hope better for Z-A, as we always hoped better for the "next game"...
It's pretty common to have two games developed right to each other. For example, the previous leaks demonstrated the Let's Go and Sw/Sh games were developed at the same time (the Sw/Sh build from Dec 22 2017 has LGPE assets).
In reality, they are Pokémon Centers because the graphics were not reloaded by passing through a gate. The buildings are actually there, you just need to open another screen like the bag or Pokémon menu and then exit out of it.
@@Themaoriraccoonthey just made munna based on that dialogue, or just had the design but didn't use it. do you think they were working on the gen 5 games for almost 15 years
@@PlasmaEternia That last area actually looks quite a bit like Route 14, though that's just my opinion. The town preceding it doesn't resemble Black City/White Forest at all.
@@_bedbosome of these builds had route 14 looking a lot different than the final version. Black City/white Forest you can tell easy in the beta since it’s super zoomed out
@@Glimglum1 That's just a continuation of what already existed in the original BW1. It's just interesting to see that it was something that was planned for in this early build.
Ive seen sprites and screenshots of this version; but not actual footage until now.! Ive only been able to find footage of later versions; so that's neat.
I dont know why but it genuinely suprised me when Pinwheel forest’s song is basically exact as the final one but completely unfinished, the only other song that was incomplete was the battle theme and Castelia being whatever that was
Pretty sure Castelia is the Battle Subway theme. I'm assuming they reused it elsewhere after polishing it because they realized it didn't fit the city's theme.
@@ItzJuanG it would be different if this was uncovered earnestly and with intention, like through a previous employee or a long search. But this information was gleaned through a gigaleak, and I get the feeling everything that was revealed was without complete intention and more or less random - whatever they could get their hands on perhaps? It feels in bad faith, forcing out precious information that could have been found in a more satisfying way to the masses as if it would make them happy. This is just how I see it though, I’ve been going out of my way to avoid the leaks and anything about it - so in the end I have no clue.
I don't know what the "Masuda Camera" is, but you reminded me that there's actually a camera setting in the debug menu I forgot to include in this. Lets you move around all over, even under the map lol.
I can't believe the Bridge of all things was the literal only thing that was already finished(though the backdrop-environment isn't either). I guess their vision for the 3D model and camera angle was just so strong that it simply had to be the first thing they did.
Super cool to see! This is just a perfect demonstration of why my (and many others') fan projects never get completed. There's always a tendency to make the sleekest most perfect sprites and route designs. Meanwhile real pokemon is just doing ugly blockouts and gradually refining it into a proper game.
12:45 Red :"When's the next Ferry for the Alola Region?" "Sorry sir it's only just departed from the Sinnoh Region en route for the Johto then Kanto Region . it'll be 8 years away"
Beta Woobat is named “モコウモリ” (Mokoumori; “koumori” means “bat”), while its final name is “コロモリ” (Koromori). Beta Krookodile is named “ワニバーン” (Wanibaan; from “wani” [crocodile, alligator] and “baan” from “burn”), while its final name is “ワルビアル” (Warubiaru). Beta Zebstrika is named “ライブラ” (Raibura; “rai” seems to come from “ray”, “bura” from “zebura” [zebra]), while its final name is “ゼブライカ” (Zeburaika). Beta Deerling is named “バンビーナ” (Banbiina, probably related to “Bambi” and the Italian word “bambina” [girl]), while its final name is “シキジカ” (Shikijika). Beta Haxorus is named “オノックス” (Onokkusu, from “ono” [axe in Japanese] and “akkusu” [axe in English]), while its final name is “オノノクス” (Ononokusu). Beta Musharna is named “バクパク” (Bakupaku, probably from “pakupaku” [onomatopoeia for flapping/devouring/opening and closing mouth?, it's also the origin for the “Pacman” name], also sounds like “backpack”), while its final name is “ムシャーナ” (Mushaana). Beta Alomomola is named “ピンボー” (Pinbou, probably from “pinku” [pink] and “manbou” [ocean sunfish]), while its final name is “ママンボウ” (Mamanbou).
Wow i saw that new/old zebstrika blitzle on the big leak lately Ive loved the leaks for g1 2 and 4...it makes me so happy, ive been waiting on this day to see how pokemons came to be ❤
The characters speaking like if they were the debug menu is so surreal because you would think they would at least serve such functionality? Instead they just tell you "SOUND TEST" and "A PLAY"
If I had to guess they were probably testing out the audio qualities of the Nintendo DS. It’s very static-y which probably led them to removing anything vocal but they were probably using a Japanese pop song here for inspiration on the Pokemon musical
Honestly so many of these area designs seem so much more open and better designed than what we got in the final product. I get they probably had to change things to fit certain needs like a theme or lack of storage space, but still. Gen 5’s main complaint was that the story made it feel guided and channeled. More open areas like this could have helped with that.
Its crazy that the 3rd fossil of gen 5 (or something) was removed after having a completed model and animations. its at 16 minutes, its model can be found online without the chimchar mask
Pokémon Center City LMAO what was the last part at the musical??! Also, we were robbed of that "prehistoric critter", like, it looks a bit like a fossilmon and a bit like early idea for Chesnaught but way better...
It's name was apparently "Garock", it was removed as a Pokemon in build r3780 (dated 19/05/2009). He can be found near the bottom of the Development->Sprites section of Black & White's Cutting Room Floor
Can't quite remember if Castelia's BGM appears anywhere else in the release version of the game, but I kinda wish they kept it similar to that. It had a bit of a more gritty and gothic design compared to the release build.
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Wow, this has a lot of promise. Hopefully they put more work into it and it gets to the market some day.
Imagine if the game pops off so well that they make direct sequels or something.
@@EverGreenTaiga
That would be pretty awesome. I'm curious on what they plan on doing once this game gets enough traction.
Hopefully they stick with this style and never get into 3D
I hope the fans don't complain about it for any reason.
And hopefully people don't bitch about the lack thereof kanto Pokemon
Just for reference: May 2009 was when Platinum was still the newest pokemon game and HGSS were only just announced. Crazy to think that this build existed during that time with some finalized gen 5 designs being present.
To me, It always have been obviuous that they had been developed these games since at least early/mid 2008. This just confirms some theories that some people have had since many years ago.
it's honestly crazy to think that while we're enjoying the new releases, their already working on the next entries, now that we've seen it in years like 2008/9 its crazy.
It's even crazier that they MAYBE understood only in 2024 that this production rhythm is unstable nowadays. Scarlet and Violet are the proves. Let's hope better for Z-A, as we always hoped better for the "next game"...
@@dazzi_yt Let's hope, this has been the only year since 2015 with no main line game.
It's pretty common to have two games developed right to each other. For example, the previous leaks demonstrated the Let's Go and Sw/Sh games were developed at the same time (the Sw/Sh build from Dec 22 2017 has LGPE assets).
Red: Wait, its all Pokemon-Center?
Nurse Joy: Always has been
In reality, they are Pokémon Centers because the graphics were not reloaded by passing through a gate. The buildings are actually there, you just need to open another screen like the bag or Pokémon menu and then exit out of it.
@@EricchiYukia Loaded up the game again to prove you wrong, but you're actually 100% right lol. Wish I'd known that when recording this.
*it's
And Nurse Joy is an anime-exclusive character.
game freak was GRINDING in the 2000s
Typhlosion too.
@_yukimura_. :(
@@_yukimura_. dont say that
It's been proven they make Pokémon well early in Generation 1 you can find a npc who clearly references a Munna from Generation 5.
@@Themaoriraccoonthey just made munna based on that dialogue, or just had the design but didn't use it. do you think they were working on the gen 5 games for almost 15 years
Oh man I just love Gen 5 so freaking much, these kind of things make me happier than any remake idea
0:32 Nuvema town
1:16 Route 1
4:16 Accumula town
5:15 Route 2
6:12 Straiton City
6:47 Route 3
7:07 Nacrene City
7:49 Pinwheel Forest (Outskirts)
8:10 Pinwheel Forest
9:50 Skyarrow Bridge
10:34 Castilia City
13:41 Chargestone Cave B1
14:10 ???
Last one is probably Desert Resort connected to a test map.
@@PlasmaEternia That last area actually looks quite a bit like Route 14, though that's just my opinion. The town preceding it doesn't resemble Black City/White Forest at all.
@@_bedbo To me it looks like an early build of Lacamusa or Village Bridge
@@PlasmaEterniaI see desert but it’s not connected to anything that you’d see in the final game
@@_bedbosome of these builds had route 14 looking a lot different than the final version. Black City/white Forest you can tell easy in the beta since it’s super zoomed out
the music in the musical lmao
Ah the proto battle theme. That's worth mentioning
Pokémon Fantasy wtf
Honestly I would’ve loved that instead of the current theme
Feels like a bootleg version of Pokémon that feels illegal to see, gotta love the major differences. 😭
well technically it *is* illegal to see as it's supposed to be confidential
I'm surprised by just how many concepts this prototype had that made it into the final game.
One of those small concepts that stands out to me is the adaptive overworld music adding percussion when moving.
@@pokechatterThat's actually a feature in BW2 it even changed percussion added violins in seasons too
@@Glimglum1 That's just a continuation of what already existed in the original BW1. It's just interesting to see that it was something that was planned for in this early build.
@@pokechatter *Inside buildings
@@pokechatter Oh okay thx!
Ive seen sprites and screenshots of this version; but not actual footage until now.! Ive only been able to find footage of later versions; so that's neat.
I dont know why but it genuinely suprised me when Pinwheel forest’s song is basically exact as the final one but completely unfinished, the only other song that was incomplete was the battle theme and Castelia being whatever that was
Pretty sure Castelia is the Battle Subway theme. I'm assuming they reused it elsewhere after polishing it because they realized it didn't fit the city's theme.
It sounded more like Dreamyard
-Oh wait it's the same music as Dreamyard
7:06 i sure hope the next town has a pokemon cent..... omg
I never noticed the forest theme was the main series theme till hearing the beta version here
holy shit i hear it
*w h a t t h e f u c k*
WHAT
Can you give me the exacte name of this Mains series theme to search it ?
@gtatrkgtatrk1651 It's the tune that plays during the opening cinematics in every game. ruclips.net/video/C19O5xm51dk/видео.html
Is it weird that this gives me chills…? Feels like something I wasn’t meant to see
Stuff like this always evokes that feeling idk why
@@ItzJuanG it would be different if this was uncovered earnestly and with intention, like through a previous employee or a long search. But this information was gleaned through a gigaleak, and I get the feeling everything that was revealed was without complete intention and more or less random - whatever they could get their hands on perhaps? It feels in bad faith, forcing out precious information that could have been found in a more satisfying way to the masses as if it would make them happy. This is just how I see it though, I’ve been going out of my way to avoid the leaks and anything about it - so in the end I have no clue.
@@ItzJuanG Lol same, sometimes prototypes give me this eerie feeling or chills, but at the same time it's so cool getting to see this stuff
Oh well nintendo chose not to use whatever was scrapped so they didn't exactly lose anything
All this is still copyrighted isn't it? Even beta mon
I see Masuda went with the Masuda Camera™️ even here
I don't know what the "Masuda Camera" is, but you reminded me that there's actually a camera setting in the debug menu I forgot to include in this. Lets you move around all over, even under the map lol.
@@_bedbo
Classic masuda camera
Masuda had a more interesting idea with it during X & Y honestly
I liked it. a bit much, but they could have made it better.
Guys... You could explain what you mean by Masuda Camera. Not everyone is an ultra nerd like you.
世界観、デザイン、ストーリーも出来てない状態から約1年で完成させるって相当大変だっただろうな
ファッションショーの音楽で「ポケったーりモンスターり」が使われてるの凄すぎる
Where can I find the song Pokétari Monster?
「ポケたりモンスター」という曲はどこで見つかりますか？
@@dannyboots ruclips.net/video/s-PIh2NwxSo/видео.html&ab_channel=%E5%8F%AF%E5%90%8D-Topic
here
@@dannyboots良い曲です。 ruclips.net/video/9BkK875j1ZI/видео.htmlsi=E7s2La2A3s_T0hgF
@@dannyboots
This song is the ending theme of a Pokemon anime circa 2002.
@@dannyboots
ruclips.net/video/s-PIh2NwxSo/видео.htmlsi=TfpmA6LG_tVmPGy_
08:09 夢の跡地のベータ、初代タイトルのアレンジっぽくてすごくいい
初代タイトルアレンジで夢の跡地っていう.... 当時子供だった人がBW制作に関わってると思うとなんかすごいですよね
製品版からでは初代タイトルアレンジと感じ取れないあたりも余計に(やめた意図が気になる)
夢の跡地のプロトタイプのBGM最高ですね
I can't believe the Bridge of all things was the literal only thing that was already finished(though the backdrop-environment isn't either). I guess their vision for the 3D model and camera angle was just so strong that it simply had to be the first thing they did.
WOAH! Cool man, I love Black and White so much, getting to see its history in development unfold is pretty cool!
Interesting how the Battle Subway music is being used for Castelia City. I suppose it fits the New York vibe just as well.
8:09 I need this version of the Dreamyard's music in my life
Super cool to see! This is just a perfect demonstration of why my (and many others') fan projects never get completed. There's always a tendency to make the sleekest most perfect sprites and route designs. Meanwhile real pokemon is just doing ugly blockouts and gradually refining it into a proper game.
Yes Krookodile you use the shit outta that WATER GUN
13:35 Discord jumpscare
6:11 Shocked
wow i love the limited 3d graphics in this demo, they're so charming
Wasn't it scarily new
the wild pokemon music is actually great
My first and my favorite generation of the franchise. Very cool to see this!
12:45 Red :"When's the next Ferry for the Alola Region?"
"Sorry sir it's only just departed from the Sinnoh Region en route for the Johto then Kanto Region . it'll be 8 years away"
4:54 legit jumpscare
This is actually so damn cool, especially the beta music like the beta mix of Dreamyard and the placeholder used in Casetllia City
It is confirmed that the next Pokemon presents will "present" bedbo's current residence.
Beta Woobat is named “モコウモリ” (Mokoumori; “koumori” means “bat”), while its final name is “コロモリ” (Koromori).
Beta Krookodile is named “ワニバーン” (Wanibaan; from “wani” [crocodile, alligator] and “baan” from “burn”), while its final name is “ワルビアル” (Warubiaru).
Beta Zebstrika is named “ライブラ” (Raibura; “rai” seems to come from “ray”, “bura” from “zebura” [zebra]), while its final name is “ゼブライカ” (Zeburaika).
Beta Deerling is named “バンビーナ” (Banbiina, probably related to “Bambi” and the Italian word “bambina” [girl]), while its final name is “シキジカ” (Shikijika).
Beta Haxorus is named “オノックス” (Onokkusu, from “ono” [axe in Japanese] and “akkusu” [axe in English]), while its final name is “オノノクス” (Ononokusu).
Beta Musharna is named “バクパク” (Bakupaku, probably from “pakupaku” [onomatopoeia for flapping/devouring/opening and closing mouth?, it's also the origin for the “Pacman” name], also sounds like “backpack”), while its final name is “ムシャーナ” (Mushaana).
Beta Alomomola is named “ピンボー” (Pinbou, probably from “pinku” [pink] and “manbou” [ocean sunfish]), while its final name is “ママンボウ” (Mamanbou).
ワニバーン would be "Wanibaan" not "Warubaan"。
@@BeruleAdierant Whoops, my bad. Thanks for pointing this out! I've fixed it.
@@CapTVchilenaShootingStarMax You are welcome, dude. Also the "Banbiina" maybe a reference to the Italian word "Bambina"(?).
Isn't rai thunder as in raikou raichu
Wow i saw that new/old zebstrika blitzle on the big leak lately
Ive loved the leaks for g1 2 and 4...it makes me so happy, ive been waiting on this day to see how pokemons came to be ❤
Bro the musics are insane
Gimme more HGSS proto build please. I am interested in the October 2008 one
Mystery Dungeon betas? Stadium??
The characters speaking like if they were the debug menu is so surreal because you would think they would at least serve such functionality? Instead they just tell you "SOUND TEST" and "A PLAY"
15:50 wtf is this
If I had to guess they were probably testing out the audio qualities of the Nintendo DS. It’s very static-y which probably led them to removing anything vocal but they were probably using a Japanese pop song here for inspiration on the Pokemon musical
@@MustacheDLuffy He's probably talking about the scrapped dinosaur-like Pokemon
It's curious how they are using old Mons
@@MustacheDLuffy the song is the soundtrack in the pokemon anime
It's the Pokemon Musical in Nimbasa City, using placeholder music (from the anime) of course
Can't wait for this game to release!!
You're gonna have to wait for September 2010 for that 😂
Gen 5 is amazing, I loved the soundtrack and designs!
The locations had so much personality, they were fun to explore.
D'you guys remember Pokémon Center City? It was my favourite
Honestly… this looks way better than what we got 😂
4:53 me when I forget the keys in the house
Who showcased the version where there's beta Reshiram on the tower of the bridge?
I have footage of it, bad quality tho, recorded the screen of my ds
開始時のUIはだいぶHGSS寄りだけどいざ始まるとちゃんとBWしてると思いきや意外に4世代が残ってる
一番道路のとこは定型文やスクリプトのテストかな？
戦闘画面やBGMも結構違ってて面白いね
SEもまだ未完なとこが多い
既存ポケモンの没案の見た目も名前も面白い
そして6:12のポケモンセンター乱立地帯はカオスで笑った
さらにあのガビガビ音質ポケったーりモンスたーりは笑った
こんだけ買いておいて何だけどBWはまだ未プレイだから見逃してるとこもあるかも
すぐ分かるようなの見逃してたらごめんね
I hope this game to be appreciated by the fans and don't get hated just because it doesn't have Pokemon from previous regions 🎉🎉🎉
No its unova and unique we knew what we were getting
Honestly so many of these area designs seem so much more open and better designed than what we got in the final product. I get they probably had to change things to fit certain needs like a theme or lack of storage space, but still. Gen 5’s main complaint was that the story made it feel guided and channeled. More open areas like this could have helped with that.
Can't wait for fanmode version to be complete
They calling it the freakleak??
We are about to get freaky 😏
Yes.
this one to be exact "teraleak"
on 4chan exist the whole leak
they should be calling it the typhlosion leak...
Wikifreaks
Welp. He’s gonna play the OG now as 50th Let's Play! This is funny now!
Es increíble que ya estaba completamente construido ese pokemon y lo descartaron
1:41
んん〜まかｧｧウｯｯ!!!!🤏😎
As someone who grew up with the gen 5 games, this is soooo uncanny
16:00 ポケッターリモンスターリ
The Chragestone Cave theme man. Wow.
This wild battle theme is better than the final imo
i like the colors of the center here more
Hey wait, hang on, THE MUSICALS WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE ACTUAL LYRICS?!
That's awesome
As far as I can tell these games were built on top of Platinum which is wild to me (makes sense though).
Its crazy that the 3rd fossil of gen 5 (or something) was removed after having a completed model and animations. its at 16 minutes, its model can be found online without the chimchar mask
the musical part at the end tho
15:49 ポケッターリモンスターリじゃねぇか！？プロトタイプだからだろうけどゲームでアニメの曲が使われてると謎に感動する
The upgrades to the engine were massive from HGSS
they already had the running changing the music function?? that's crazy
Pokémon Center City
LMAO what was the last part at the musical??! Also, we were robbed of that "prehistoric critter", like, it looks a bit like a fossilmon and a bit like early idea for Chesnaught but way better...
Kommo-o
Wow..
Castelia's beta theme was reused for the battle subway…
I didnt expect the musical lol
Pinwheel forest sound's still cool
Put me on a list Nintendo. We just want people to be able to make fan games man
dynamic music for walking in pokemon centers wouldve been so cool cmon man
Oh man that battle music is neat
can you post the music of 8:50 in a video?
It sounds like a beta dreamyard theme
11:50 Yakuza kamurocho ass entrance
They had the battle screen down with Gen 3. I never liked the weird zooming they did on the sprites on Gen 5, and it's even worse here. 😂😂
Ala, thank you for showing me my pokemons butt hahaha
G5 Mystery Gift in the Platinum soundfont tho
3:44 he’s running around so fast, I want that speed
The fishermen were the protagonists all along!
fishermen: hey kid, want a powerful pokemon it's called a magikarp! Only for a limited time offer of 500 pokedollars
I wanna know who was responsible for that wild theme
Masuda, of course
Likely Masuda's composition arranged by Ichinose
6:11 did that gate fr load when going through it
Not load** he went through without loading
もこうがでてきてわろた
Thank you SO MUCH.
curioso que se escuche en el espectaculo pokemon el ending japones 13 del anime
もこう！？もり
lmao that ending was wild! what even is that thing thats dancing with the other pokemon??
It's name was apparently "Garock", it was removed as a Pokemon in build r3780 (dated 19/05/2009). He can be found near the bottom of the Development->Sprites section of Black & White's Cutting Room Floor
1:45 もこうおるやん
Why is beta Castelia literally better than the one we got in the finished game 😭
What's the song that plays during the musical at the end? Is it JP exclusive?
Pocket-ering Monster-ing, It's from the Japanese anime
15:47 What Pokémon is that on the right side of the stage? I cannot recognize it.
It’s an early design of Haxorus from my understanding
Looks like chimchar
@@JogadordeMG LMAO
@@Blarzek But is a chimchar on a costume 😅
The way its arms moves resembles Carracosta
was not expecting the musical at the end (>∇
Gen 4からのエンジン入れ替えの過程でかなり初期のビルドなんですかね...(戦闘システムの完成度から)
任天堂は流出 没データにかなり厳しくなってるからこの動画が消える前にアーカイブされることを祈る
HGSSにより近い 2008年ビルドと比べると進化がすごいし、
2009/12ビルドだとかなり製品版BWに近いUIの基礎やSEの基盤ができてる
Can't quite remember if Castelia's BGM appears anywhere else in the release version of the game, but I kinda wish they kept it similar to that. It had a bit of a more gritty and gothic design compared to the release build.
Gear Station and Battle Subway.
@@RodolfoAmbriz That was it!!
THIS GAME HAS NO PIKACHU WTF
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Sincerely, me in 2011
I was thinking the beta Caracosta was Pokestudio Boss
I haven't played gen 5 in forever so you coulda told me this is the full game lol
1:47 ワルビアルは初期案だと名前はワニバーンだったのか？この赤い見た目と名前からすると、バーン(burn)にちなんでほのおタイプを持ってそう。それともワイバーンがモチーフで意外にもドラゴンタイプだったり？
オノノクスは今の名前の方が好きだ。プロトタイプだと斧とrexしかかかってないけど、最終的には慄くが入って3つにかかってるのいいな
Why did they leave out the unused pokecenter sprites 😔
Since when can Krookodile learn Water Gun?