Just for reference: May 2009 was when Platinum was still the newest pokemon game and HGSS were only just announced. Crazy to think that this build existed during that time with some finalized gen 5 designs being present.
To me, It always have been obviuous that they had been developed these games since at least early/mid 2008. This just confirms some theories that some people have had since many years ago.
it's honestly crazy to think that while we're enjoying the new releases, their already working on the next entries, now that we've seen it in years like 2008/9 its crazy.
It's even crazier that they MAYBE understood only in 2024 that this production rhythm is unstable nowadays. Scarlet and Violet are the proves. Let's hope better for Z-A, as we always hoped better for the "next game"...
It's pretty common to have two games developed right to each other. For example, the previous leaks demonstrated the Let's Go and Sw/Sh games were developed at the same time (the Sw/Sh build from Dec 22 2017 has LGPE assets).
In reality, they are Pokémon Centers because the graphics were not reloaded by passing through a gate. The buildings are actually there, you just need to open another screen like the bag or Pokémon menu and then exit out of it.
@@PlasmaEternia That last area actually looks quite a bit like Route 14, though that's just my opinion. The town preceding it doesn't resemble Black City/White Forest at all.
Ive seen sprites and screenshots of this version; but not actual footage until now.! Ive only been able to find footage of later versions; so that's neat.
I don't know what the "Masuda Camera" is, but you reminded me that there's actually a camera setting in the debug menu I forgot to include in this. Lets you move around all over, even under the map lol.
I dont know why but it genuinely suprised me when Pinwheel forest’s song is basically exact as the final one but completely unfinished, the only other song that was incomplete was the battle theme and Castelia being whatever that was
Pretty sure Castelia is the Battle Subway theme. I'm assuming they reused it elsewhere after polishing it because they realized it didn't fit the city's theme.
@@Glimglum0 That's just a continuation of what already existed in the original BW1. It's just interesting to see that it was something that was planned for in this early build.
@@ItzJuanG it would be different if this was uncovered earnestly and with intention, like through a previous employee or a long search. But this information was gleaned through a gigaleak, and I get the feeling everything that was revealed was without complete intention and more or less random - whatever they could get their hands on perhaps? It feels in bad faith, forcing out precious information that could have been found in a more satisfying way to the masses as if it would make them happy. This is just how I see it though, I’ve been going out of my way to avoid the leaks and anything about it - so in the end I have no clue.
Beta Woobat is named “モコウモリ” (Mokoumori; “koumori” means “bat”), while its final name is “コロモリ” (Koromori). Beta Krookodile is named “ワニバーン” (Wanibaan; from “wani” [crocodile, alligator] and “baan” from “burn”), while its final name is “ワルビアル” (Warubiaru). Beta Zebstrika is named “ライブラ” (Raibura; “rai” seems to come from “ray”, “bura” from “zebura” [zebra]), while its final name is “ゼブライカ” (Zeburaika). Beta Deerling is named “バンビーナ” (Banbiina, probably related to “Bambi” and the Italian word “bambina” [girl]), while its final name is “シキジカ” (Shikijika). Beta Haxorus is named “オノックス” (Onokkusu, from “ono” [axe in Japanese] and “akkusu” [axe in English]), while its final name is “オノノクス” (Ononokusu). Beta Musharna is named “バクパク” (Bakupaku, probably from “pakupaku” [onomatopoeia for flapping/devouring/opening and closing mouth?, it's also the origin for the “Pacman” name], also sounds like “backpack”), while its final name is “ムシャーナ” (Mushaana). Beta Alomomola is named “ピンボー” (Pinbou, probably from “pinku” [pink] and “manbou” [ocean sunfish]), while its final name is “ママンボウ” (Mamanbou).
Honestly so many of these area designs seem so much more open and better designed than what we got in the final product. I get they probably had to change things to fit certain needs like a theme or lack of storage space, but still. Gen 5’s main complaint was that the story made it feel guided and channeled. More open areas like this could have helped with that.
If I had to guess they were probably testing out the audio qualities of the Nintendo DS. It’s very static-y which probably led them to removing anything vocal but they were probably using a Japanese pop song here for inspiration on the Pokemon musical
Why? That's pretty standard for sequel development, using what you already have as placeholders and testing before you get the new stuff in. It's why you can find gen 2 music tracks in the gen 3 games and why I take any and all "x was supposed to come back" in data mines with a huge grain of salt.
Its crazy that the 3rd fossil of gen 5 (or something) was removed after having a completed model and animations. its at 16 minutes, its model can be found online without the chimchar mask
Pokémon Center City LMAO what was the last part at the musical??! Also, we were robbed of that "prehistoric critter", like, it looks a bit like a fossilmon and a bit like early idea for Chesnaught but way better...
I wonder, would this version of the prototypes be able to do multiplayer with the retail carts? Wiimfi? Game Sync? (the program is called "Entralinked") Or would this iteration of the networking code (if there is any at this stage) be too different than the retail gen 5 games? If local trades are possible, I wonder what the RNG algorithms look like. (Would pokemon caught in this version be able to pass into HOME?)
Can't quite remember if Castelia's BGM appears anywhere else in the release version of the game, but I kinda wish they kept it similar to that. It had a bit of a more gritty and gothic design compared to the release build.
Wow, this has a lot of promise. Hopefully they put more work into it and it gets to the market some day.
Imagine if the game pops off so well that they make direct sequels or something.
@@EverGreenTaiga
That would be pretty awesome. I'm curious on what they plan on doing once this game gets enough traction.
Hopefully they stick with this style and never get into 3D
I hope the fans don't complain about it for any reason.
And hopefully people don't bitch about the lack thereof kanto Pokemon
Just for reference: May 2009 was when Platinum was still the newest pokemon game and HGSS were only just announced. Crazy to think that this build existed during that time with some finalized gen 5 designs being present.
To me, It always have been obviuous that they had been developed these games since at least early/mid 2008. This just confirms some theories that some people have had since many years ago.
it's honestly crazy to think that while we're enjoying the new releases, their already working on the next entries, now that we've seen it in years like 2008/9 its crazy.
It's even crazier that they MAYBE understood only in 2024 that this production rhythm is unstable nowadays. Scarlet and Violet are the proves. Let's hope better for Z-A, as we always hoped better for the "next game"...
@@dazzi_yt Let's hope, this has been the only year since 2015 with no main line game.
It's pretty common to have two games developed right to each other. For example, the previous leaks demonstrated the Let's Go and Sw/Sh games were developed at the same time (the Sw/Sh build from Dec 22 2017 has LGPE assets).
Red: Wait, its all Pokemon-Center?
Nurse Joy: Always has been
In reality, they are Pokémon Centers because the graphics were not reloaded by passing through a gate. The buildings are actually there, you just need to open another screen like the bag or Pokémon menu and then exit out of it.
@@EricchiYukia Loaded up the game again to prove you wrong, but you're actually 100% right lol. Wish I'd known that when recording this.
Oh man I just love Gen 5 so freaking much, these kind of things make me happier than any remake idea
game freak was GRINDING in the 2000s
Typhlosion too.
@_yukimura_. :(
@@_yukimura_. dont say that
0:32 Nuvema town
1:16 Route 1
4:16 Accumula town
5:15 Route 2
6:12 Straiton City
6:47 Route 3
7:07 Nacrene City
7:49 Pinwheel Forest (Outskirts)
8:10 Pinwheel Forest
9:50 Skyarrow Bridge
10:34 Castilia City
13:41 Chargestone Cave B1?
14:10 ???
Last one is probably Desert Resort connected to a test map.
@@PlasmaEternia That last area actually looks quite a bit like Route 14, though that's just my opinion. The town preceding it doesn't resemble Black City/White Forest at all.
@@_bedbo To me it looks like an early build of Lacamusa or Village Bridge
Feels like a bootleg version of Pokémon that feels illegal to see, gotta love the major differences. 😭
well technically it *is* illegal to see as it's supposed to be confidential
Ah the proto battle theme. That's worth mentioning
Ive seen sprites and screenshots of this version; but not actual footage until now.! Ive only been able to find footage of later versions; so that's neat.
I see Masuda went with the Masuda Camera™️ even here
I don't know what the "Masuda Camera" is, but you reminded me that there's actually a camera setting in the debug menu I forgot to include in this. Lets you move around all over, even under the map lol.
@@_bedbo
Classic masuda camera
Masuda had a more interesting idea with it during X & Y honestly
I liked it. a bit much, but they could have made it better.
Guys... You could explain what you mean by Masuda Camera. Not everyone is an ultra nerd like you.
ファッションショーの音楽で「ポケったーりモンスターり」が使われてるの凄すぎる
Where can I find the song Pokétari Monster?
「ポケたりモンスター」という曲はどこで見つかりますか？
@@dannyboots ruclips.net/video/s-PIh2NwxSo/видео.html&ab_channel=%E5%8F%AF%E5%90%8D-Topic
here
@@dannyboots良い曲です。 ruclips.net/video/9BkK875j1ZI/видео.htmlsi=E7s2La2A3s_T0hgF
@@dannyboots
This song is the ending theme of a Pokemon anime circa 2002.
@@dannyboots
ruclips.net/video/s-PIh2NwxSo/видео.htmlsi=TfpmA6LG_tVmPGy_
the music in the musical lmao
I never noticed the forest theme was the main series theme till hearing the beta version here
holy shit i hear it
*w h a t t h e f u c k*
WHAT
Can you give me the exacte name of this Mains series theme to search it ?
@gtatrkgtatrk1651 It's the tune that plays during the opening cinematics in every game. ruclips.net/video/C19O5xm51dk/видео.html
I dont know why but it genuinely suprised me when Pinwheel forest’s song is basically exact as the final one but completely unfinished, the only other song that was incomplete was the battle theme and Castelia being whatever that was
Pretty sure Castelia is the Battle Subway theme. I'm assuming they reused it elsewhere after polishing it because they realized it didn't fit the city's theme.
It sounded more like Dreamyard
-Oh wait it's the same music as Dreamyard
I'm surprised by just how many concepts this prototype had that made it into the final game.
One of those small concepts that stands out to me is the adaptive overworld music adding percussion when moving.
@@pokechatterThat's actually a feature in BW2 it even changed percussion added violins in seasons too
@@Glimglum0 That's just a continuation of what already existed in the original BW1. It's just interesting to see that it was something that was planned for in this early build.
@@pokechatter *Inside buildings
I love seeing leaked prototype ROMs, inspires me to improve at my 2 jobs, which are indie game developer and security engineer.
08:09 夢の跡地のベータ、初代タイトルのアレンジっぽくてすごくいい
Interesting how the Battle Subway music is being used for Castelia City. I suppose it fits the New York vibe just as well.
夢の跡地のプロトタイプのBGM最高ですね
7:06 i sure hope the next town has a pokemon cent..... omg
This is actually so damn cool, especially the beta music like the beta mix of Dreamyard and the placeholder used in Casetllia City
開始時のUIはだいぶHGSS寄りだけどいざ始まるとちゃんとBWしてると思いきや意外に4世代が残ってる
一番道路のとこは定型文やスクリプトのテストかな？
戦闘画面やBGMも結構違ってて面白いね
SEもまだ未完なとこが多い
既存ポケモンの没案の見た目も名前も面白い
そして6:12のポケモンセンター乱立地帯はカオスで笑った
さらにあのガビガビ音質ポケったーりモンスたーりは笑った
こんだけ買いておいて何だけどBWはまだ未プレイだから見逃してるとこもあるかも
すぐ分かるようなの見逃してたらごめんね
Is it weird that this gives me chills…? Feels like something I wasn’t meant to see
Stuff like this always evokes that feeling idk why
@@ItzJuanG it would be different if this was uncovered earnestly and with intention, like through a previous employee or a long search. But this information was gleaned through a gigaleak, and I get the feeling everything that was revealed was without complete intention and more or less random - whatever they could get their hands on perhaps? It feels in bad faith, forcing out precious information that could have been found in a more satisfying way to the masses as if it would make them happy. This is just how I see it though, I’ve been going out of my way to avoid the leaks and anything about it - so in the end I have no clue.
6:11 Shocked
The upgrades to the engine were massive from HGSS
Can't wait for this game to release!!
You're gonna have to wait for September 2010 for that 😂
Gen 5 is amazing, I loved the soundtrack and designs!
The locations had so much personality, they were fun to explore.
Do you still have the ROM? Or did you built it from source? I'll looking at the entire archive but I cannot find this 2009 build, not even on TCRF
15:47 What Pokémon is that on the right side of the stage? I cannot recognize it.
13:35 Discord jumpscare
They calling it the freakleak??
We are about to get freaky 😏
Yes.
this one to be exact "teraleak"
on 4chan exist the whole leak
they should be calling it the typhlosion leak...
Wikifreaks
Gimme more HGSS proto build please. I am interested in the October 2008 one
I hope this game to be appreciated by the fans and don't get hated just because it doesn't have Pokemon from previous regions 🎉🎉🎉
Yes Krookodile you use the shit outta that WATER GUN
My first and my favorite generation of the franchise. Very cool to see this!
WOAH! Cool man, I love Black and White so much, getting to see its history in development unfold is pretty cool!
4:54 legit jumpscare
16:00 ポケッターリモンスターリ
Beta Woobat is named “モコウモリ” (Mokoumori; “koumori” means “bat”), while its final name is “コロモリ” (Koromori).
Beta Krookodile is named “ワニバーン” (Wanibaan; from “wani” [crocodile, alligator] and “baan” from “burn”), while its final name is “ワルビアル” (Warubiaru).
Beta Zebstrika is named “ライブラ” (Raibura; “rai” seems to come from “ray”, “bura” from “zebura” [zebra]), while its final name is “ゼブライカ” (Zeburaika).
Beta Deerling is named “バンビーナ” (Banbiina, probably related to “Bambi” and the Italian word “bambina” [girl]), while its final name is “シキジカ” (Shikijika).
Beta Haxorus is named “オノックス” (Onokkusu, from “ono” [axe in Japanese] and “akkusu” [axe in English]), while its final name is “オノノクス” (Ononokusu).
Beta Musharna is named “バクパク” (Bakupaku, probably from “pakupaku” [onomatopoeia for flapping/devouring/opening and closing mouth?, it's also the origin for the “Pacman” name], also sounds like “backpack”), while its final name is “ムシャーナ” (Mushaana).
Beta Alomomola is named “ピンボー” (Pinbou, probably from “pinku” [pink] and “manbou” [ocean sunfish]), while its final name is “ママンボウ” (Mamanbou).
ワニバーン would be "Wanibaan" not "Warubaan"。
@@BeruleAdierant Whoops, my bad. Thanks for pointing this out! I've fixed it.
@@CapTVchilenaShootingStarMax You are welcome, dude. Also the "Banbiina" maybe a reference to the Italian word "Bambina"(?).
Who showcased the version where there's beta Reshiram on the tower of the bridge?
I have footage of it, bad quality tho, recorded the screen of my ds
It is confirmed that the next Pokemon presents will "present" bedbo's current residence.
Bro the musics are insane
11:50 Yakuza kamurocho ass entrance
wow i love the limited 3d graphics in this demo, they're so charming
1:41
んん〜まかｧｧウｯｯ!!!!🤏😎
What's the song that plays during the musical at the end? Is it JP exclusive?
The fishermen were the protagonists all along!
fishermen: hey kid, want a powerful pokemon it's called a magikarp! Only for a limited time offer of 500 pokedollars
Words that will change the world:
B STOP
↓日本人いますか？
（Hey Japanese!）
Honestly so many of these area designs seem so much more open and better designed than what we got in the final product. I get they probably had to change things to fit certain needs like a theme or lack of storage space, but still. Gen 5’s main complaint was that the story made it feel guided and channeled. More open areas like this could have helped with that.
15:50 wtf is this
If I had to guess they were probably testing out the audio qualities of the Nintendo DS. It’s very static-y which probably led them to removing anything vocal but they were probably using a Japanese pop song here for inspiration on the Pokemon musical
@@MustacheDLuffy He's probably talking about the scrapped dinosaur-like Pokemon
It's curious how they are using old Mons
@@MustacheDLuffy the song is the soundtrack in the pokemon anime
It's the Pokemon Musical in Nimbasa City, using placeholder music (from the anime) of course
Can't wait for fanmode version to be complete
I'm surprised that the prototype uses content from previous games as a base.
Why? That's pretty standard for sequel development, using what you already have as placeholders and testing before you get the new stuff in. It's why you can find gen 2 music tracks in the gen 3 games and why I take any and all "x was supposed to come back" in data mines with a huge grain of salt.
The Chragestone Cave theme man. Wow.
i like the colors of the center here more
As someone who grew up with the gen 5 games, this is soooo uncanny
they already had the running changing the music function?? that's crazy
Its crazy that the 3rd fossil of gen 5 (or something) was removed after having a completed model and animations. its at 16 minutes, its model can be found online without the chimchar mask
Pinwheel forest sound's still cool
Is the tweaking glitch possible in this early build?
I didnt expect the musical lol
もこう！？もり
15:49 ポケッターリモンスターリじゃねぇか！？プロトタイプだからだろうけどゲームでアニメの曲が使われてると謎に感動する
dynamic music for walking in pokemon centers wouldve been so cool cmon man
This wild battle theme is better than the final imo
Honestly… this looks way better than what we got 😂
Woah where do you find this stuff?? I'd really like to see it for myself!
Pokémon Center City
LMAO what was the last part at the musical??! Also, we were robbed of that "prehistoric critter", like, it looks a bit like a fossilmon and a bit like early idea for Chesnaught but way better...
Kommo-o
Do you have the Roms ?
Wow..
Castelia's beta theme was reused for the battle subway…
Oh man that battle music is neat
curioso que se escuche en el espectaculo pokemon el ending japones 13 del anime
They had the battle screen down with Gen 3. I never liked the weird zooming they did on the sprites on Gen 5, and it's even worse here. 😂😂
もこうがでてきてわろた
Put me on a list Nintendo. We just want people to be able to make fan games man
1:47 ワルビアルは初期案だと名前はワニバーンだったのか？この赤い見た目と名前からすると、バーン(burn)にちなんでほのおタイプを持ってそう。それともワイバーンがモチーフで意外にもドラゴンタイプだったり？
オノノクスは今の名前の方が好きだ。プロトタイプだと斧とrexしかかかってないけど、最終的には慄くが入って3つにかかってるのいいな
データ解析ですか？
没データが他にも流れていたら見たいです。
gen 4⅓
Has any betas for RS, E and/or FRLF leaked out yet?
ベータ版ミュージカルでポケアニの曲使われてたとは思わなかった
Why did they leave out the unused pokecenter sprites 😔
What's the name of that song at the end?
I was thinking the beta Caracosta was Pokestudio Boss
I wonder, would this version of the prototypes be able to do multiplayer with the retail carts?
Wiimfi?
Game Sync? (the program is called "Entralinked")
Or would this iteration of the networking code (if there is any at this stage) be too different than the retail gen 5 games?
If local trades are possible, I wonder what the RNG algorithms look like. (Would pokemon caught in this version be able to pass into HOME?)
Really interesting idea, it would be cool to see someone try it at some point
I think it might freeze, and the released BW/B2W2 may send an error or glitch.
can you post the music of 8:50 in a video?
It sounds like a beta dreamyard theme
Thank you SO MUCH.
lol , the last part looks great
1:45 もこうおるやん
I wanna know who was responsible for that wild theme
Masuda, of course
Good stuff
16:21 NO WAAAAAAAAAAYY 😭😭😭
I haven't played gen 5 in forever so you coulda told me this is the full game lol
Can't quite remember if Castelia's BGM appears anywhere else in the release version of the game, but I kinda wish they kept it similar to that. It had a bit of a more gritty and gothic design compared to the release build.
Gear Station and Battle Subway.
@@RodolfoAmbriz That was it!!
Does that summer deerling sprite look the same?
I need you to pass me the prototypes of Pokémon HeartGold, SoulSilver and Black and White, I need the ROMs, please
Sure seems, eh…!
どのようにして見つけましたか？
Beauuuuutiful
any pokemon mystery dungeon beta footage??👋👋
Since when can Krookodile learn Water Gun?