30-30 Winchester Ammo Test
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- I recently obtained some 30-30 Winchester ammo by different manufacturers, and decided to test each one of them side-by-side in this video. If you are a deer hunter, especially if you own a 30-30, then this is the video for you, so sit back and enjoy.
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I really enjoyed this video. Took me back a few years. In the summer of 1972 I had earned enough hay money working on other farms. And split and sold locusts post to a local feed dealer for 50 cents a post. To buy my first deer rifle. A 1968 marlin 336c in 35 rem. It even had a 4 power bushnell scope chief mounted. It was chambered in 35 rem. The dealer was so used to me walking in to put my weeks take on the counter and visit my rifle on lay away. He'd say here comes young Parksy ,I was expecting you. When the deal was closed for 139.95 he tossed in a box of remington 200 grain core-lokt roundnose ammo. What a day!! Seems now like yesterday. My first deer came that winter with that rifle. Chores done early that morning of opening day ,A then 3 day doe season. Long John's two pair of jeans. Two pair of socks, a bread bag over the socks stuffed into uninsullated green barn boots.
Brown jersey gloves and a spare pair tucked inside my coat against my chest we headed out. The weather was a true test,Driving ice that stung hitting my face. Wind blowing it sideways. Didn't matter three days of doe in that time meant you go period. By 10 am I didn't think I could hold the rifle steady. I took shelter under a massive bolder twice my height. Thinking of fresh deer liver and onions and the wood stove at home. By 1015 .I was standing over my first deer. I wasn't cold anymore. My family is serious hand loaders. So hand loads since that first box is all this rifle has seen since 1972. I've been blessed with grand children. I've bought another 336c marlin in 35 rem. And found a 4 power bushnell scope chief on ebay. And bought two boxes of good old remington 200 gr core-lokt ammo. Can't wait to put these in my grand kids hands. I think it's a good place to start.
Wow! What an incredible story. I truly enjoyed reading it because you took us all there to that time. I almost bought one in 35 Remington, but decided to get a 30-30 instead. If I run across another 336 in 35 Rem. I'll try my best to latch onto it and make a video. The 35 Remington is a close to medium range hard hitting cartridge, and a fantastic choice for the woods where whitetails live. Thanks so much for sharing your experience. That just made my day!
Stories like this kinda choke me up. They are so deep. Stuff like this really are almost spiritual passages. Cant explain it, but boys and even girls are shaped for the better through such intense experiences with the natural world. So few get that opportunity these days.
I really enjoyed your story, thank you for taking us all back to simpler and better times, especially us older guys that look at how this world is these days and just about hang out heads, we really appreciated it.
22 lr and the 30-30 are the two most underestimated rounds
30-30 maybe, by todays wanna be sniper crowd but I don't think the same has ever been true about the .22LR.
@@Nick-wn1xw very much the 22 lr more than any
@@Nick-wn1xwThe 22lr is probably the most underrated cartridge there is, I’ve actually heard people try to compare the 22lr to air powered pellet rifles which is absurd, but many people think the 22lr is incapable of providing a deadly means of self defense, yet countless people have been killed by this cartridge.
Oh all the bison, hogs, deer, and cattle that fell to my 22lr. Any centerfire cartridge is definitely underestimated because the common hunter has a real bad issue with putting a bullet where it needs to go.
I like a 30- 30 also and always use Remington Core-lock. I shot my first deer with a Stevenson bolt action30-30. This past year I harvested a beautiful 200 plus pound 9 point 22 inch spread buck with my Grandfathers 1896 Krag he bought way back when the government was selling them as surplus rifles. He paid 3 dollars for it. That buck dropped in his tracks like a ton of bricks. It made me feel proud to harvest that buck with his rifle. I was 3 years old when he passed away, I’m now 66.
Congrats on a nice buck. 22 inch spread, and a 200 pounder? That was a real brute! Thanks for sharing your story. I cherish stuff like that.
I just bought a '98 Krag-Jorgensen and am anxious to harvest a deer with it this winter.
Congrats on your rifle. I recently saw a 30-40 Krag at a local gun show. I think they wanted around $1100 for it.@@michaelpriest6242
@@CumberlandOutdoorsman it was by far my biggest buck ever.
One of my hunting partners for years was the Pastor of my church. Right before he passed away, he told me that the previous three years he had taken 16 deer with his Marlin 30-30. He shot the Winchester 150 Grain Silver Tip (flat nose) ammo, that we purchased from Wal-Mart. He said two of the deer he killed were over two hundred yards away. He also said a 30-30 would kill over two hundred yards if you knew your rifle, the ammo, and the trajectory.
Since around 1986 or 1987, I have used a Marlin 336A 30-30 with the 24" barrel (5+1 capacity)., manufactured around 1980 with the JM stamp. It looks very similar to your rifle. Over the years I have taken more deer with this rifle than any other firearm. (I have never lost a deer that I hit with a 30-30.). For years, I used the same Winchester Silver Tip ammo previously mentioned above, until 4 years ago, I had it re-sighted for the Hornady 160 Grain LeveRevolution Bullets. All I can say is that the Hornady ammo turned that 30-30 into something like a .308. It was like shooting missiles. It is much more potent, with much more velocity and distance. The Hornady ammo will take care of business.
I miss the old Silvertip . 30-30 ammo not being made any more. Feels like something very traditional left us that should never have been discontinued.
The Hornady FTX bullet used in the Leverevolution is definitely an improvement in tube fed rifles. My experience was with the 160 grain Leverevolution in my Marlin 336. I harvested a deer shot behind the shoulder at 175 yards. I watched the deer run in the middle of the field into the woods. I walked over to the spot where I shot. Luckily it was in the morning of opening day. The guys in the hunting camp were telling me to use my trusty Remington 742 30-06. I wanted to test the ability of the new Hornady ammunition in the field. I recovered the deer about 100 yards from where I shot it. It was a double lung hit. I would use the Remington 170 grain Core Lokt on deer in my tree stand in the woods. Most shots were 50 to 75 yards and the deer dropped!
@@johnnorman7708 Totally agree. Why in the world did they stop making the Silvertip. It worked so well.
I wanted a Marlin 336 and mowed yards etc and saved up the $87.95 it took to buy one in 1962. I was 17 years old and ordered it from Parker Brothers in New York. I came home from school and it was sitting in the corner on our porch where the mail man left it. I got my first buck that fall with it. I didn’t even have to have my parents signature to buy it and no one signed for it on delivery. Try that today. Most boys who had a vehicle carried a rifle on the back window of their pick up truck to school. They would stop on the way home from school and deer hunt till dark. Better days for sure and I still have that Marlin 336.
What a feeling that must have been seeing that box on your front porch! I can’t even imagine that lol. Appreciate you sharing you sharing your short story. I love hearing stories like that from elders.
I have been shooting PPU 150g for years .
It's my little 30/30 Secret ammo .
Works great , accurate, hits hard and gets the job done
I’ve been buying PPU for years as it is affordable and accurate in all my rifles…have been wanting to use it hunting…good to know it seems to perform for you
So where are you finding that PPU ammo?? I want some. Thanks Dandahermit
PPU and Sellior & Bellot make outstanding ammo.
I think you got decent performance out of all four brands. The PPU surprised me, great performance at a great price. The Remington has always given me great service in whatever I shoot it in also. All said, I wouldn’t feel under served with any of them. Great comparison.
I know that for the 30-30, 1 inch groups at 100 yards is quite good. I know of some bolt action rifles that won't do that well. I was pleasantly surprized to see how well that old lever action shot the first time I tried it out. As you know by now Wayne, if it aint accurate, I don't want it.
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Yes, that was an excellent rifle. I’ve received one as a
gift from my father-in-law before he died. Several years back. He took wild hogs in Tennessee with it. Excellent shooter.😊
.....wasn't sure I was interested in watching this video, but, really glad I did, even though we are probably the same age, when I watch your videos, everything takes me back to the late 60's to the late 70's when I was a kid,.....& we did the same things you do in your videos. Sometimes it saddens me to have ever abandoned those rifles, times, & ways of doing the splendid simple things, which had actually brought me more joy in my lifetime of shooting since the age of 4, with Great Thanks to my late Father, than the intense Longrange Comps. & other comps. I have chased & attended since my early 20's in the early 80's. So grateful for your videos, I really enjoy them & don't change a thing. Thank You Sir for your generosity to share wonderful videos.
I do enjoy shooting on my little range. Testing different ammo, and old guns is a passion of mine, and I enjoy sharing it with my viewers. Thanks for the comment and sharing your story.
Thank you sir for a great video, and great information! The Remington Corelokt is always accurate, especially in lever action rifles! I've also loved the Winchester and Federal ammo for decades! The Winchester model 94 chambered in 30-30 remains my favorite all-around rifle.
I really enjoyed this review. Consistent methodology. As well, I really enjoyed seeing the performance of that rifle length Marlin .30-30.
One more reason to choose the Remington ammo, it is usually more available at more retailers and at a more attractive price point than most other brands of ammunition; Winchester typically being the second most available and affordable.
But in the end, it all comes down to choosing the ammo that best performs in your rifle. For me, the priority is: 1) Availability (can I consistently find it when I need it), 2) Accuracy (terminal ballistics mean nothing if I cannot be absolutely consistently accurate with my rifle/ ammo combination), 3) terminal performance.
I have always had great accuracy from Federal power shok and the Winchester Power Points. I was totally surprise at the accuracy and the velocity of the PPU ammo. Never saw that coming. All of this ammo you tested is hunting approved in my opinion. I shoot a Marlin 336XLR (JM stamped also) and they are great guns. It also has the 24" barrel. Probably why your velocities are in the 2300's. I don't think 20" barrels give that. Great video.
Classic rifle. What a treasure.
Perfect timing on this video, I just purchased a pre-64 Winchester 94 in 30-30 and was hoping to do some deer hunting with it this rifle season. Looking forward to testing some ammunition myself! Thanks for sharing Tom!
I once owned a pre-64 model 94 also. That old gun should serve you quite well. Hope you have a great season.
Can I ask what it cost?
Your 336 is gorgeous. I have 2, one in 30-30 from 1980 and one in 35 remington from 1951. I've used the 150 grain remington core lokts out of my 30-30 with good results and i did test some 150 grain winchester power points out of it 2 years ago when I couldn't get core-lokts and it only took 3 shots to sight in. I haven't tried the other brands, but maybe I will sometime
LOVE those '50s Marlins! I have my Dad's 1953 in .35 Rem.
My '77 Marlin 30-30 likes the Hornady Lever Ammo and the Federals you used in this video.
Thanks for sharing your video with us. It takes me back to the pre-Desert Storm days before plastic gadgetry saturated the gun market. Love 30-30 and lever actions. Good job!
I have that exact rifle. I’ have shot empty. 12 gauge shells at 100 yards with my scope on it. Love it. Thanks for the video.😊
This is by far the best shooting 30-30 lever action I have ever owned. It will hold it's own against some of my bolt action guns.
I bought 2 Marlin 336 Microgroove hooded front sight rifles and two Shrade skinner knives ( I allways but 2; of things I think will be important like guns knoves chain saws snowmobiles etc for back up) and good thing I did cause my house was robbed and they got one of my Markins and a schrade knife and a complete collection of Buck knives and display cabinet. So I still have the other rifle and knife. Im 80 yrs old. Bought them in 1974 at K Mart in Arkansas. Paid $79.95 each for the Marlins and $12.49 each for the skinners. Also picked up A Ruger automatic 22LR pistol. (now they call it the # one) one of the best pistols I ever bought n still have it. All great American products. Those 3itemsnput meat on my table all these years. Too old n wore out to hunt now. Dandahermit
Never underestimate the old thutty thutty😊. It is the perfect deer round. As for the Marlin it can't be beat. I have a 39A I bought in 1968 it has the thin forearm and gold trigger. I got it for $100.00 new from D&S Outdoor Supply in Lufkin Texas plus $5.00 tax.
Fantastic video Sir! Have always trusted my 30/30's in all my years of hunting in So. Texas brush and hill country. Never under-estimate the power and accuracy, not to mention the beauty and functionality of a good lever action 30/30. Appreciate all of your knowledge and expertise, and showcasing your gorgeous rifles! Take care Tom! -Steve-
I've knocked down many large bodied mule deer with 170 grain Core-lokt ammo but never recovered an expanded bullet because always a pass through the chest organs. My Winchester angle-eject clusters three shots into a two inch group at 100 yards. My scope is a Simmons Pro Hunter model featuring 2-7X settings. Thank you for an informative video!
I’ve Had Great Luck With the Federal 150 Grain Also Love The Remington 170 Grain Core Lokt Ammo 😀😊😀 Cumberland Outdoorsman
Admittedly the Federal stuff did very well in my rifle. I was actually surprised at the group they shot, and the bullet performance. I have not yet tried out the 170 grain Cor-Lokt rounds, but I do have a box of it in my ammo storage.
Wish I still had my old one !
I brought my 1956 Winchester 30-30 out of retirement a few years ago.
It is only used for target shooting these days as I have also retired from hunting.
Because I don't need speed from the 30-30 as a target rifle, my choice for powder is Trail Boss.
A Lee Classic hand loader does a great job for reloading for 30-30.
My deer rifle which I bought in 1973 is a Winchester 94. I hunt in hilly heavy woods and it’s a pleasure to carry. The gun likes the Winchester white box 150 grain. But you’re right it depends which cartridge your rifle likes. I have a Swedish Mauser 6.5x55 and the most accurate is the PPU.
Good afternoon Mr. Cumberland. Could you also test 30-06 ammunition. I love your 22lr videos, please keep them coming. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I hope to do that soon. Thanks for watching.
Love those 336A’s with the 24 inch barrel. I just picked up another Marlin made in 66. Those old Core lokts have proven themselves in the deer woods. I handload most of my ammo nowadays and generally load the Hornady 170 interlock or 160 Ftx. Enjoyed the vid👍🏻
I've got a 336a deluxe made in 1949 and it still looks almost like new for that old a gun they didn't make many of the deluxe ones with factory checkering
I,m a Remington guy, don,t get me wrong but groups between Remington and Winchester were close, The Winchester had the highest VELOCITY, they can give you a little more knock down power in the field. I would like to see your groups at 150 and 200 yds. Liked your video, look forward to your next longer- range test.
Thanks for this. I have numerous 30-30's and use mostly Federal blue box and Fusion.
My favorite rifle is my 788. Thought you might like that one. BTW your trigger videos on the 788 were very very helpful - thank you.
I have only ever seen one 788 in 30-30. It was at a gun show some 15 years ago. I should have tried to buy it, but was in the market for something else at the time. Remington 788's have really become very much sought after.
@@CumberlandOutdoorsman indeed. I also have the 44 magnum as well. Great rifles
ive been deer hunting since 1958 with allll sorts of rifles and calibers,,,,sighted them in for 200-400 yds. Havent shot as many as you guys but ive shot many. Never fired more than one shot per kill. I try to aim for head shots as, most any sort of bullet through the head is hard to ignore. In all of my hunting over 4 states, never shot a deer at over 40ft distance. I tend to scout around a bit, find a good hiding spot and hunker down. Sooner or later, hes gonna come along and when he does i dont shoot. I let him get closer and closer. ITs paid off every time. Wait until you can see the whites of their eyes before revealing yourself.....good luck,,,stay safe,,,
Great test! The rifle shot very well. We saw a larger group with the Rem load and then a better group which was explained. The other 3 brands shot close to the same. I think we would need a 150 or 200yd challenge between all 4 to see any practical difference for hunting in velocity, accuracy and performance.
Whats not to love about the.30 WCF!! It's a very purposeful round and in the hands of a skilled marksman even more so. I utilize one as a designated truck gun in the form of a 1963 Marlin SRC with Ashley (XS sights) and 11:34 handloaded 170 gr. Winchester Silvertips. It's a slick levergun and has been packed many a mile in its day. Another great video! God Bless...
Very good video, I am from Michigan where there were lots of 30-30 rifles. I have one that my father in law bought back in the sixty’s and I have been using it here in Indiana for the last few years with great success with Remington core lock ammo thanks for a great video on a very fine caliber, you take care now
Being a lunch pail,bue collar guy too,Ive got a blue collar collection myself.Walnut and blue for me,but not kicking the newer plastic and black firearms....got a Savage 170 pump,a Savage840 bolt action and a Marlin 336C. All in 30/30 cal...30/30 was THE caliber with the gang of deer hunters I hung with in 1978.I hand load mostly 150 gn flat nose and they all have great hunting accuracy to 100 yds...believe it or not but the pump action shoots rings around the other two..Have a great day and keep the videos coming.
I’ve shot the federal ps 150’s for the last 15 years and taken some really nice bucks with them. Always a solid performer, I probably have 10 boxes stashed away
When you find something that works well for you , better get a good supply of it before you can't get it anymore. Pure Logic!
@@CumberlandOutdoorsman yeah seems like everything that was good gets discontinued at some point. I’ve never understood that
Look at the price on them boxes now I wish I would have bought or could hav bought 15 or 20 boxes 30 years ago n got a few boxes every year since
@@jamesfranz7508 $9.95 on the first ones I bought because I kept the old boxes
Great vid friend I remember buying dirty30 at under seven dollars a box.👍😃✌️🇺🇸💪
Enjoyed the video. I’ve got a Marlin Glenfield short magazine model 36. Made in 63/64 with a 20”barrel. Never had a scope on it. I live in the mtns of NC and most shots are under 100 yds. Very accurate with iron sights. Contemplating putting a scope on it though not necessarily needed for deer in the southern Appalachians. Also a favorite bear caliber. Remington core lokt is also a favorite. If I’m going to be in more open country I use a Winchester pre 64 featherweight in 270.
You showed us an excellent trial, sir. Thank you for the demonstration and moreso sharing your lovely rifle with us.
I wanted folks to see my actual results as I encountered them.
I'm running the Remington ammo in my Winchester 30-30 right now. Years ago (almost 50) I used Winchester in my 30-06 getting 1/2" groups but somewhere things at Winchester must have changed . I have model 94 Big Bore .375 and the only source for ammo that I'm aware of is Winchester and accuracy was horrid to put it mildly . I could barely keep bullets on a 14 inch target at 50 yrds . Seating depth was visibly inconsistent and after sacrificing some cartridges I found the bullets to be undersized 3-4 thousands . I now handload for my .375 and keep a 2 inch group with iron sights.
I liked your video. Forget the Remington, my Marlin doesn't shoot Rem ammo as accurately either. Just pick one of the others, correct your scope with your choice and go hunting. I don't handload, but the most accurate factory ammo I ever encountered was the old school Winchester Silver Tips. The ones with the aluminium insert. Wow, those 150's would print a 7/8" 3 shot group at 100 yards with the carbine easily. Have Leupold 2X7 VX mounted on top with super low Leupold mounts.
Got comparable accuracy with Federal 150, Fusion 150, and Win 150.
The cheap ammo impressed.
I live up on the Northern Sonoran Desert and I can't stand watching you pour all that water out. Haha. I need to get a cronometer.Dandahermit. Been subbed.
Good evening, i just watched this 30/30 ammo video 👍. My step father bought a Marlin 30/30 336W ( i would imagine new ) he retired from General Motors, it has the gold front sight, gold trigger and if I'm correct charging handle as well. Last time i looked up s/n I'm pretty sure i did it correctly was manufactured 1947 ??? He also has a Marlin 22 rifle Model 60W with gold trigger, gold coin in the stock and i think another feature? Maybe that was the 1947 date? Mom lives an hour away I'll have to write down info next time I'm up there. Thanks for your time in making the videos greatly appreciated and God Bless.
Very comprehensive review. Entertaining too. Thanks!
Another great video! Very informative and interesting. I have nearly the same rifle, a Marlin 336 SC…. Sporting Carbine, with 20” bbl. and 2/3 magazine, but in .35 Remington. Made in 1962. A fantastic rifle, also very accurate with 200 gr. Remington Core-Loct ammo. Deadly on hogs and deer here in Fla., one of my favorite carrying rifles. Thanks, good luck, and God Bless!
I almost bought a 336 in .35 Remington. That is a very effective hunting cartridge, hard hitting and dependable. Thanks for sharing.
I have a 1957 Marlin 336 SC in .35 Remington with a Griffin and Howe mount with a Weaver K 1.5 with post reticle.
I purchased it from a gunshop in NE Pennsylvania. The story the gun shop owner told me is the owner bought this new and only used it on opening day since many people would take off from work on that Monday. He changed the optic back in the 70s as his original Weaver was fogging up. The rifle is in excellent condition. The Griffin and Howe mount was a popular but expensive option to add to a hunting rifle. You don’t see that type of craftsmanship on newer firearms. The action is smooth. The 200 grain Hornady Leverevolution can stretch it out over 100 yards.
I hope Ruger does a good job with acquiring Marlin. I would love to see more .35 Remington caliber rifles made so more ammunition is available.
Oh man, what a nice rifle! The vintage G&H mount is a tremendously sweet addition! The scope is a great one, and the post will really stand out. The scope on my 336 is a late 60’s Bushnell Scopechief 2x8X, with a thin crosshair reticle, that had an additional ring on the eyepiece that flips up a large bold post overlaying the crosshairs. ‘Command Post’ feature. I just love this vintage stuff that works! Enjoy that great Marlin, and good luck!
Oh, and about Ruger made Marlins, the one’s that I have seen are FANTASTIC! Excellent quality and in some ways, like the cold hammer forged barrels, better than the best JM rifles. My next will be a Marlin 1894 in .44 Mag. they just introduced back into production ( Ruger)! We will have to see if Ruger goes back to .35 REM. offerings, or maybe goes with the new straight wall .35 Buckhammer, with identical ballistics to the REM.
i still use mine i got it in 1976 it has a straight stock most of the bluing is gone but it has always got me a deer ever year
Model 94 20 inch carbine bought for me by my mother for my 16th birthday a loooong time ago. I mounted a Weaver side mount and a 4x Leupold. Zeroed at 100 yards for left right convergence.. I'm doing some Hornady stuff with CFE 223 right now. Very impressive accuracy.
Core-Lokt has my vote. Good info Thanks
Great video! I have always been impressed with the Remington Core Lockt, but have recently switched to the Hornady LeverEvolution 160 grain ammo. If you haven’t tried it, you should give it a shot and test it like you did these ones. (I think it’s a fairly hot load, so it might be slightly higher at 100 yards than your other tests. I’d love to hear what kind of accuracy and penetration you get compared to these!
Thanks for the video!
Mine has the hooded sight and no blur. Love it. Don't need any optics.
I'd like to give a special thanks to Cumberland Outdoors I always love your reviews I have one of the first 500 336 ever made I got it given to me beautiful rifle they say the 3030's kill more dire than any other rifle I'm inclined to believe that but I'm going to have to stick with my Winchester bullets LOL anyway thank you for Cumberland Outdoors
I'll be out deer hunting in the morning with a Marlin 336 and the Remington 150gr. Core-Loct ammo with which it was sighted in. I enjoyed watching your testing, thanks.
Enjoyed the video, I still love to target shoot and hunt deer with my marlin 30-30
A great caliber in a very classic rifle. My only 336 currently in my safe is chambered in .35 Rem. .... How ever I do have a sweet mod 36 in 30-30 win, LOL I fully believe that the Ballard rifling does in deed make a difference Great video thanks for sharing.
That is excellent accuracy and velocity out of your Marlin. I’ve also got a JM Marlin 336C in 30/30. Thanks for sharing!
The 30-30 works …
The bullets are designed to function at 30-30 velocities…
Expansion, penetration…
And are chambered in a carbine Levergun, that shoulders like a shotgun…&Low recoiling …
It all adds up to great hunting round.. only round I use .. in a 336
I have contacted Ruger a 1/2 dozen times in the past few years asking them to come out with a Ruger American Ranch carbine in 30-30 with a 16 inch barrel… specifically for use in heavy brush or in a treestand
I’m sure they’ll get right on that
Milo's!!! Lord KNOWS I love me some Milo's! Especially their Lemonade! Absolutely the best around.
PPU ammo is decent. Ive been using it for years. They make devent brass, and reloaders should like the stuff.... especially at the price they sell it at.
Both my Marlins were zeroed in new outta the box. Never changed the sights.
I've never chronographed this ammo but I've noticed the slight extra recoil thump in most product offerings from Winchester. Winchester ammo Does not compare to Underwood or Buffalo bore but I've noticed in many calibers Winchester does seem to load their products a little faster than Remington or Federal. Kind of a just right offering in my opinion. Remington is a very respectable choice nonetheless.
Great test. 24” barrel so subtract about 100fps for a typical 20” barrel.
Ok velocities for a 24" barrel.
Theyre close to published velocities.
Most Marlins shoot THAT well! (well at least all the Marlins that Ive owned, that is...)
That bullet expansion for the PPU ammo is actually the best of all four. It appears to have the same double caliber expansion, and MORE shank and looks like itvretained more weight yhan the others.
But they all performed great!
I suspected, from the beginning - before testing, you favored the Remington. You foreshadowed your test results in the first few minutes before any testing was done. So it was no surprise that you gave Remington a second chance but none of the others. I do the same thing…..I love this ammo but it did not perform as expected so let me do it again. I think they call that ammo bias. All of us shooters suffer from it. Great video - keep the coming.
That 24" 336A barrel is why that ammo is zipping right along. That Winchester seemed almost hot for velocity. One thing about .30-30 is that it's almost impossible to get a conventional soft point to fail on you at it's normal speed, especially the 170 grain version. You run out of speed before you run out of bullet.
You need to get out there and find yourself a Remlin While they're still out there, you know They were only made for a short time. Love your videos, thank you.
Now you want to make me get those Winchester PowerPoints , else it has always been a toss up for me between Federal and Remington using 170 grains.
I thought the PPU did well enough, and that would get perhaps better penetration not having peeled back quite as far. Guess we'll need to see some real deer hunting results to compare.
Great video. Liked and subscribed.
Thanks.
My Pre-64 336 loves 170gr Corelockt...1 shot drop at 125 yds on Idaho black bear...a few years back... Nice video
Rem Core-Lokt has been the top performer in my 336 rifle (not carbine), also. Lately, I have become a fan of the Federal Power Shok line of ammo. It is accurate in every caliber I have tried, 12 ga. sabots, too.
Just my opinion here, that PPU expansion looks plenty good. I wonder what the results would be if you weighed the bullets from all the tests. The PPU looks like it may have retained more weight.
PPU, like Sellior & Bellot, are the best kept secrets in the ammo world, in the US anyway.
I'd like to see more ammo test (for accuracy) and how well these lever guns can shoot. The ammo tests help narrow down what ammo to use with a rifle (with Marlins (and others)the date of manufacture will make a difference do to a different type of rifling or twist rate. I would love to have a nice place to live that I could shoot, hunt and farm on. I don't want to go crazy with it but it would be nice to grow some of my own food. Great video if you have a 35 Rem (or any of the others you have)I would love to see that too! Nice job and good luck and be safe.
I would greatly appreciate a similar review using 170 grain bullets. Great review.
Nice rifle1 I'd choose Federal. In factory ammo, it always grouped best for me. You have a fine rifle.
I was rather impressed, and surprised by the Federal ammo as well. I thought it would perform poorly, but it was actually a toss-up between it and Remington in this test. It did come out ahead in terms of consistent velocity, and it mushroomed beautifully.
I love lever actions. They just make me smile 😂
Thanks for the review mate I’ve just got myself a Henry Octagonal barrel colour coded yesterday there is a waiting period of 4 weeks here in Aus so I’m checking out the best ammo for a 30-30 so thanks again mate cheers
I hear a beautiful place but the gun laws ,as in the UK are Archaic.
Great video...good information. I shot the Remington exclusively years ago...stopped using it years ago, too. I had several bullets that did not pass through the animal...that is a requirement for me...I want 2 holes. The only explanation for no pass through with .270 ammo at under 100yds is bullet failure...jacket and case separating. At any rate, good video.
A very well done video. Informative, interesting, great photography and commentary. The ammo companies have got that 30/30 round pretty consistent as to bullet performance. I’m curious how the their 170 grain bullets would fare in comparison. The 336A’s are real nice rifles. I’ve got one in .35 Rem and 38/55, a 1936 24” in 30/30 and a 36 A in .32 Spl. Such nice rifles to hunt with.
I have to agree with you about the Remington Scolloped jacketed Round Nose bullets. I reload and they perform great in all my 30’s and .35. Never had one come apart. Have a great hunting season and Thank you for a great video.
marlin 336 best lever gun hands down.
Seems like a pretty even playing field amongst all of them except for the mildly inferior expansion on the PPU. Im just amazed that you captured all of the projectiles in water jugs. Youd be hard pressed to find that in most other channels hahah.
Good video I looking at getting me a 3030 for this deer season
Good test, well done, your results parallel my own, and I'm a 30-30 nut, I have 3.
Great video! I think that most modern ammunition is going to perform fairly closely. The would have to to stay competitive. Winchester or Remington have always been my go-to ammunition. I may have to look into PPU though.
*My nearly identical same vintage 336 SC magically gained accuracy when I fitted it with a new DNZ game reaper scope mount and a new Vortex Crossfire II V-Brite scope. Same identical ammo, with a Bushnell Banner Wal-Mart grade scope 6" groups or larger patterns at 100 yards. {not acceptable}. Install DNZ game reaper mount and Vortex V-Brite 3-9x and the seemingly random patterns suddenly shrank to 1" or 1.5" groups with the same brands of ammo from the same batch of boxes. Sometimes, a new or better optic and mount can make a real difference. Iron sights can also be extremely effective.... If the budget allows Awesome iron sights, peep sight, ghost ring, or bullseye peep, or a China-Mart cheap scope of questionable quality, I might opt for the awesome iron sights. In fact... on my bolt action I do have target grade peep sights... and, I like them. Yes, that old Mauser is drilled and tapped for a scope...and, I actually prefer the Redfield Target knobs Peep sight. One pound or more 'lighter to carry' never fogs over, and can hold 2" groups at 100 meters even with my old eyes. I like it. Same or similar peep sights can be fitted to nearly any rifle.*
I got a 1894. Made 1907.26" octagon barrel.😊
Great detail and well constructed video thank you!
You need to test Hornady FTX 160gr. Leverevolution ammo In .30-30… more velocity and the ballistic tip bullets perform absolutely devastating!
Thanks for the great Ammo testing of the 30/30. I think both the Remington & Federal are accurate . Winchester will get the job done. But Honorable mention goes to the PPU not only in the accuracy department but in the Wallet Department saving ten bucks a box. You have a great presentation. You should have weighed each of the bullets to see how much weight retention was achieved. I shot my first Deer in Maine near Brunswick. 1980 . I used a Winchester model 94 30 30. What is your location?
I love that round, preferably model 94 but I'll always keep my Marlin for a buddy back up😊
I once owned a model 94 Winchester and sold it. Now after shooting the Marlin 336, I must say that I favor the Marlin much more as a hunting rifle for several reasons.
Another observation on my end, is that I believe Federal changed their bullet profile of these rounds? I think anyway, if those federals are a flat nose soft point, all the power shok 30-30 I have stacked which is in the old style blue box packaging, are true round nose soft points. They do work well, I do typically go with the 170 grain power shoks when 30-30 use is in order
I got a 1894. 26" octagon barrell made 1907. I like Hornady lever evolution.😊😊
Excellent video….I have all of those ammo you tested except the PPU. Can you also compare the next video with the Hornady FTX (flex tip).
Excellent presentation. Thank you.
That is one beautiful rifle,, i like the way it looks wit the longer barrel and shorter tube,,,, is it 4+1 ???
Thanks. I think it holds 4 +1. I like the rifle barrel better than the carbine version as well.
Where did you find that PPU ammo. 30 30 has been really hard to find for quite awhile. Last box of Winchester I bought was $:6.79. haha the good old days. Dandahermit.
I've got a few boxes of the Remington core lok 170 grain HP. I allways ran 170 sp. This core-lokt looks serious. Haven't fired it.
Well done. I dig these tests.
I picked a few boxes of PPU 170 grain recently, have no doubt it’ll work. It’s pretty hard to screw up a cup and core soft point
Gotta get a 30/30 Marlin I have a Winchester 94 and shoots very good but can't mount a scope on it and with my older eyes just can't see well... :( I like to make-up range rounds with 8.5 grains of Red Dot and 150 gr. Berry's projectiles for fun.... Question : what brand n power is your scope ?? So going to be looking for a good 336 Marlin..... be well.
It's just an old vintage 3X9 Bushnell Banner, but it seems to hold zero very well.
@@CumberlandOutdoorsman , thank you..
Pearson makes a rail mount for the 94. Uses a scout scope. I have scout scopes on a couple of Mod 92 clones and also on a Garand. 2-7x makes a huge difference, but some make 3-12x if you want more...but let me not discourage you from getting another rifle, especially if it's a good Marlin.😊
@@williamgaines9784 TY I'll check it out...
I had a Browning BLR in.308. It was very picky. I got a .75 inch group out of Winchester 180gr Silver tip. Remington was all over the paper. Federal was mediocre.
Great video, I really enjoyed it.
140gr Hornady solid copper Levervolution would be a great round to test.