Sorry for the editing mistake at 1:26, I don't understand how that happened, as the preview didn't show that image in place (nevertheless it's a funny example of how cheap these watches actually are)
I mean there kind of are such things as affordable luxuries, except the catch is that they stop being considered as luxuries as soon as they become affordable.
@@mxkkel7454 Not a guarantee, but a good rule of thumb: brands that are at least 50 years old. The only US based decent brand I know of with cheaper models has been mentioned in the video: Timex. Other than that, try the Japanese, the Swiss and the Germans. Casio, Citizen, Seiko, Orient, Swatch, Tissot, Mido, Wenger, Junkers... have somewhat affordable (quartz) lines. Keep in mind, a quality watch is a luxury item.
You can always tell when TMF and Alpha M are about to promote a mvmt watch because they’re wearing it in the beginning of the video. But as soon as the next video comes out, it’s back to their Rolex’s because they know mvmt is shit
Is alpha M that cornball that actually made a video about how to dress to go and have a beer with friends? If you get any tips from that guy your life sucks.
@@PokePresto I used to sub his channel long time ago. He used to do some decent videos and actually seemed genuine. But over last couple years it just shows terribly how much he turned into making a buck. When nearly every video turned into a topic wrapped around an ad pimping some cheap junk I bailed. Got old
They cut out the OTHER middle MEN. And harvest all the money for themselves. They make business on an expert level. But watchout, don't buy MVMT stocks, companies like it don't last long.
Buying MVMT or Daniel Wellington is so stupid you can buy automatic watches from well known brands like Seiko and orient for the same or even lower price
@@armandol1826 For me, the thing with burberry, its basically a fossil watch with a burberry logo on it. But I think they cut ties with eatch other or about to but still. Im like, ehhh its a fossil lol.
Sam Lung not really though. I have both watches and the design of Burberry watches are better. But the point is, why pay the same money for Movement or concerto watches when name brands are in the same price range.
@@armandol1826 I kinda ment the mechanics of it because Michael Kors watches i believe are also made by fossil. The design is their brand but the heart is fossil, all 3 brands are still nice watches respectivly but i do see your point.
I’ve purchased 3 mvmt watches as a 15 year old, their extremely simple and cool designs is what motivated me to purchase them. I had no watch history at all, just a teenager looking for a cool watch. I watched reviews online and they all said they were great. After receiving the watches I loved them and so did my friends, because neither me or my friends are watch guys. This guy is extremely right on how they targeted gullible audiences like me, who don’t buy watches. If you’re just someone who wants a cool watch, I would honesty recommend them because I personally do like the way they look. After doing research and watching alternatives , this video really opened my eyes on how companies are able to sell their products purely due to uninformed audiences. Thanks
lets take a seiko in the $100-$500 range,the different in quality is just another world away.look at mechanical kinetic watches if you don't like changing batteries.
And when i come to Egypt for a holiday i feel like a fucking millionaire. U know what i mean?? If u go to norway u cant even buy a coffee without losing ur whole lifetime savings. 😂😂
"Minimalist Design". More like stolen design. After seeing 1:35 onward, I'm disgusted by this company's practice of literally rebranding watches at a 10x markup. And to think so many influencers take their sponsorship's without question...A little research goes a long way. I appreciate this video.
@@violet_lilac Yup. Being a massive car nerd, I always thought that every car guy should have at least one mechanical, manual-wind watch. The similarities are incredible.
I was going to buy a MVNT watch for my BF for valentines day, but I just so happened to see this video in my recommended video feed! You saved me from making a bad purchase, thank you!
i bought the rosegold mvmt-watch in 2016 and am still happy with them.. quite shocked honestly when i discovered your video.. well its the last time a bought a watch from them i guess^^but still: i am (one of a few obv.) a happy and satisfied mvmt-customer
I like how you mentioned how their products look better online than they do in real life. When you buy quality 'cheap' watches from brands like Seiko, Orient, Citizen etc, 99% of the time they look BETTER than they did online. Most of the time when I order a new watch I'm amazed by how much better it looks in reality. Wearing an Orient Mako II right now, couldn't be happier for the money.
As an Orient bambino owner I can say that this watch looks WAY better than the one shown online. It's mindblowing that they can sell affordable watch that looks so good. I also own the original Mako (blue) kinda sad that they went with 1 dial watch compared to 2 dials watch of the original Mako/Ray.
It's funny that MVMT product renders and marketing materials look so good, when more traditional and better watch companies like Seiko often have terrible product photos but much better looking watches up close and personal. When I bought my SARB017 the product photos really don't make it stand out, but in person it's incredible. I really hate companies like MVMT with their sinister marketing, like you say they'll boast about having literally the bare minimum metal grade, because the numbers sound professional and impressive to the average consumer.
My very first watch was an Orient Bambino (which very unfortunately was stolen at the gym) and I absolutely loved it. Got compliments on it all the time and the quality was unbelievable for the price. Automatic movement as well and the same price if not far less than MVMT watches.
I feel so bad. A co-worker of mine bought a MVMT watch a few months ago and she was so happy with it when she got it, saying how she got a really good price for a quality watch. Even back then, I knew MVMT wasn't a good watch company, I just didn't know how bad they actually were. She basically got ripped off... Thanks a bunch, Ben, for educating us!
I won my mvmt watch at a club soo I got one without paying. When I saw how much it costed I was shocked and did not know the brand at all either, but now I see it being promoted by RUclipsrs a lot. The quality isn't bad but you got way more better options. But mine in really thick which for a woman's watch isn't nice
So glad I came across this. I see them advertised on a ton of RUclips channels I watch and on instagram and stuff like that and I had seriously considered ordering a MVMT and I'm glad I didnt. Thanks man
*MVTM response to that video* Thanks for that video we at MVTM felt you represented our brand very well and added overall interest in our products .....
Fashion watches, including the big fashion names like Armani, Boss, Gucci...etc are just horribly overpriced dogshit. Spend £100 on a Seiko 5 or a second hand Orient Mako to get good looking quality.
Actually Gucci is now incorporating real Swiss calibers to its products, and real high end fashion brands like Hermes, LV, Bvlgari and Dior has high horology complications like tourbillons, minute repeaters and perpetual calendars. Understand your point, tho.
Just stumbled across this video. Brilliant. Love your honesty. I’ve been disappointed by a few people I follow on Instagram wearing these, what a let down.
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thank you man. internet marketing at its finest. I've been thinking about getting one of these for ages because I love the look, but now I'll reconsider
Hey Ben, I havn't owned a nice quality watch before and have been looking for one recently. I came close to buying a mvmt thanks solely to being a subscriber to alpha m. This video saved me from a huge mistake and after watching a few more of your vids and a couple other youtubers in this space I bought a Seiko instead. Thanks for the save man!
I remember LinusTechTips advertising Vincero watches. Like, CPUs and graphics cards have nothing to do with watches, but they still advertise them in these channels.
Good job Ben!! I hope word gets around, but unfortunately, most people have no idea. For those prices you can also get many automatic watches that are very good. Like Orient or Seiko.
Hey Abhirup, I wouldn't be surprised if their business model was very similar. However, I haven't spent any real time with a Vincero watch, so I don't want to make any claims. Maybe some other people in the comments may be able to answer this?
I've received one and yeah is the same think, if you want my opinion just buy a Orient or a Seiko 5, they are automatic watches with really great value and from really well known brands
They are definitely similar in that they are an over priced fashion watch but I'd actually day they are a step above MVMT, DW ect. More along the lines of Fossil or Michael Kors.
I have seen many videos about MVMT, Daniel Wellington, Vincero etc., and I still keep watching them, because I love the passion that creators of watch channels put into them 👍 Good job, Ben!
MVMT is worse than the counterfeit markets in Shenzhen LOL. At least in the counterfeit markets you can haggle them down on price like 60-80% if you are persistent and play it right.
I know this video is over a year old but it would be interesting to see you buy some of the OEM watches from sites like aliexpress just to show people that they literally are the same.
Came here because someone recommended this video in the latest JackAsk video, as he's being sponsored by them almost all the time. Excellent video, gotta say!
Thanks Ben, 7:01 when you say you prefer companies in investing in building better products, I recognise myself here, trying to compromise on marketing by putting more efforts in design and high end materials. Great video thanks for your work. I'd be happy to have your take on MYKU watches. Cheers!
This man right here is the youtuber that needs to have millions of followers, not some salesman who recycle his content over and over again and make a 6minute ad on his 7min video to persuade you to buy a garbage product
Great video , Orient has so many options in this range , in fact I have a second generation bambino and fourth generation bambino , I'm gonna do a comparative review on . Four generations of Bambino with mostly in house movement at same price really with and they have that bahuass look at least the second gen does,
1st video I've seen of Been Arthur and I'm already subscribing. Glad to see other's comments on Alpha M promoting this BS. I think that other guy,Men's fashion, or whatever channel also promotes MVMT. The world needs a Ben Arthur. Someone who will go against all the bullshit salespitch of those other guys trying to make a buck out of our hard earned cash!!!
Yo mate, not sure if you still look through these comments but you sold me on your channel. God bless the YT algorhythm for recommending me this vid. Good on ya, great stuff.
Thank you so much for this video, I don’t know anything about watches, I watched a video on the “today I found out” channel and I was seriously thinking of buying it, if it weren’t for your video I’d probably have bought that horrible watch! Thanks!
I’m sure you can guess but certain youtubers got me into fashion watches. Luckily I did my research and I can safely say I’ve dodged a bullet. Personally, I’d say look into the Orient brand. For around the same cost you can get an automatic open heart which is definitely going to catch the eye. Hey Ben, if the strap of a watch matches the shoes and belt and the metal matches the metal respectively, does the dial color of the watch matter?
Completely agree with this comment. I actually purchased an automatic Orient for much less than one of the MVMT watches. It's one of my favorites in my small collection.
It’s the same thing with beats headphones they are literally the most expensive type of headphones compared to other cheaper Sony audiotechnica etc but their marketing is so smart
some people are pointing out in the comments you only get recommended these videos after you already buy one. I got a nixon that didnt end up working and the warranty was sketchy so i returned it and got a seiko 5, very happy. maybe do a video on warranty quality compared to watch quality
Lol. It's funny you mention the lack of originality of these brands. One held a contest on twitter to name its new watch, and went with a name suggested by a follower that was ripped off from a popular TV show. I was disgusted.
Any Seiko 5 with an aftermarket strap on it will kill any claims of value that MVMT makes.. Automatic, good finishing, great strap quality to your own standards, etc
So essentially what you're saying is that MVNT watches are overpriced for what that is? Kinda like a very popular brand that sells watches for $10,000 for watches that can be duplicated to an identical standard for $1500.
I'm so glad someone is finally calling them out and bringing this to light. You're 100% right about these watches. Cheap private labeled devices. It always makes me really sad when I see a creator/influencer I enjoy promoting these things.
MVMT, DW, Kate Spade, MK are social media watches. Promoted by people who know nothing about watches for people who know nothing about watches, all they care is a name. DW for instance, uses the lowest and cheapest metal alloy available on market, coated with golden or silver metallic paint to make them look expensive. And will start to rust as soon as they get in contact with sweat. Underneath the dial, is a cheap Chinese generic movement, that cost no more than $3 to manufacture. DW says: Our watches are minimalist. Translation: The generic chinese movement we use in our watches is sooooooo cheap, that doesn't even come with date complication. On top of that, they *shamelessly* charge their uninformed customers $350 for a piece of junk. In alibaba.com those exact same watches can be found at 9 dollars, just without the DW painted on the dial. In other words, 97% of the price a person pay is for those 2 letters printed on the dial of a generic Chinese watch that has no heritage, no craftsmanship, and most of all, no value.
The only concern Is i think that MVMT has the leading point when it comes to the minimalist design and fashion, if the other brands like seiko och orient would learn some from these fashion watches like MVMT, or if MVMT would improve their mechanics it would be all good. But if you're just into the looks of the watch, and love the minimalist style, then why not get a MVMT because in my opinion they do look best
I do like some of their clean minimalist designs. But in the video, he indirectly explained why you should not get a Movement watch, even if it’s just for the minimalist looks. He showed how you can get the exact same watch with the exact same specs, and looks, for a lot less money, from other Chinese manufacturers. Granted, you might have to do some research to find them. That takes time and effort. Otherwise, sure, go buy whatever makes you happy. It’s your money.
@@tommyhick3635 i watched a ton of videos on watch reviews and all I remember is hearing thatm i forgot from whom though. They are made to last about a year or two.
Prosperity Gruesome he maybe right though, the same watch coasts 3$ on Aliexpress with free shipping, so if they coast 9$ Aliexpress would be losing a lot of profits selling them for 3$ I guess
Great video Ben! You helped me make a more informed decision. I never thought MVMT was that great to begin with, but you've opened my eyes up to some different brands and models I like way more. Thanks!
Everything you went over in this video has been my experience with MVMT Lol.. I first bought one after hearing about it on the Joe Rogan experience.. I used the Rogan promo code, got a discount and bought what I thought was a nice looking watch. When it arrived, I was so friggin' disappointed.. it looked and felt so cheap, the watch itself was so damn light that I thought to myself no way this is real stainless steel.. this feels like styrofoam with a metal skin Lol. Anyway, I wore the watch twice.. the band literally fell apart the second time I wore it.. those quick release thingies popped up and the silver/metal band was fucked. So I bought a leather band to replace it.. I don't know how you can call this thing "genuine leather" I've never in my life witnessed leather so shitty.. it's hard, dry, faded in color and it's easily ruined by water. By contrast I also bought a Vincero watch which was cheaper.. even though the movement on that thing is pretty crap, the materials themselves seem so much better than MVMT.. I still probably would not recommend either though Lol.. stick with better known brands.
Hi Ben, thank you for your video and detailed explanation of the facts. I feel perhaps the reason why MVMT wanted to 'sponsor' you was to silence you from making videos exposing their business practice and products - 'allegedly' - So Ben, they HAVE seen your videos but have used a crafty 'technique' to change matters. You have to remember, PR and Marketing IS their game. Thank you for sharing your knowledge on watches and enjoy a lovely Christmas and New Year.
This is actually what Bethesda try to do with Yong Yea. When Yong keep talking about Bethesda's blunders they sent him a collector package for Fallout 76 but it backfired when baggate happened. Also Yong actually showed his audience what Bethesda did and it just making Bethesda looks desperate.
Thank you for this video. It was quite informative. I ordered a watch from The Fifth during black friday so maybe better value with the discounted price but after watching your video I've got buyers remorse even before getting my hands on the thing :P. Please share some more alternative options
@@iamfrankyrizzo for quartz watches :- look up tissot t classic desire range of watches they are around $150-$200, seiko solar powered SUP something model around 90 or 100 on amazon, citizen eco drive. For automatic watches:- seagull 1963 Chronograph around $200, seiko 5 line(around 80 to 150) , tissot swissmatic, orient watches such as bambino, mako, Ray, kamatsu(all under $200) , timex marlin and waterbury automatic.
Hi George, personally I haven't tried them yet, partly because I could tell straight away that their stuff was just cheap rubbish from China. The brand kind of has a bad reputation online (similar to mvmt). I rejected their offer to send me a watch a while back lol
they are for sale in retail stores like the bay... I don't get it. I went with a timex weekender Fairfield for that same reason a few years ago. And that indiglow gets the ladies.
wow i orderd today and now i feel like a super dumb person. There strategy works too well. Never was intrested in watches. Saw one of them online and just wanted one of them...
Hey sir. Very nice content. I am going to buy my first great quality watch. Is Pierre Lannier or Armani Exchange a better quality brand compare to MVMT? Thanks a million.
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Sorry for the editing mistake at 1:26, I don't understand how that happened, as the preview didn't show that image in place (nevertheless it's a funny example of how cheap these watches actually are)
“There is no such thing as affordable luxury.”
Preach.
Asket?
I mean there kind of are such things as affordable luxuries, except the catch is that they stop being considered as luxuries as soon as they become affordable.
Explain Seiko
@@zarelinoise3866 Well once you hit the 300 ish dollar mark you get insane finishing for the amount of money paid
That all depends on what you define as luxury.
Dude saved me and my friend from 100$ mistake. God bless where ever you got your acent
Ugh, limey accents always sell better
from who should i buy watches?
@@mxkkel7454 Not a guarantee, but a good rule of thumb: brands that are at least 50 years old.
The only US based decent brand I know of with cheaper models has been mentioned in the video: Timex. Other than that, try the Japanese, the Swiss and the Germans.
Casio, Citizen, Seiko, Orient, Swatch, Tissot, Mido, Wenger, Junkers... have somewhat affordable (quartz) lines.
Keep in mind, a quality watch is a luxury item.
@@mxkkel7454 ehrenmann
jstn Seiko, Citizen, Wenger, Timex, Victorinox, Casio. All of them have great watches for the price.
You can always tell when TMF and Alpha M are about to promote a mvmt watch because they’re wearing it in the beginning of the video. But as soon as the next video comes out, it’s back to their Rolex’s because they know mvmt is shit
Is alpha M that cornball that actually made a video about how to dress to go and have a beer with friends? If you get any tips from that guy your life sucks.
@@ryanh2479 you must be fun at parties lol
that's business for ya
Alpha M is a scumbag, profiting off poor lonley men who want a better social life, in steps "the Alpha" and gives crap advice.
@@PokePresto I used to sub his channel long time ago. He used to do some decent videos and actually seemed genuine. But over last couple years it just shows terribly how much he turned into making a buck. When nearly every video turned into a topic wrapped around an ad pimping some cheap junk I bailed. Got old
"We cut out the middle man" - Except they ARE the middle man...
Sneak 100
They cut out the OTHER middle MEN. And harvest all the money for themselves.
They make business on an expert level. But watchout, don't buy MVMT stocks, companies like it don't last long.
@ They were actually bought out by Movado Group which owns HugoBOSS and others.
Damn this guy ROASTED mvmt! Lmao
What r u doing on here Jack? Those hypergamistic women
Buying MVMT or Daniel Wellington is so stupid you can buy automatic watches from well known brands like Seiko and orient for the same or even lower price
Carlos Bornes I know right, I can buy a Burberry or Hugo boss watch under $300 brand new.
@@armandol1826
For me, the thing with burberry, its basically a fossil watch with a burberry logo on it. But I think they cut ties with eatch other or about to but still. Im like, ehhh its a fossil lol.
Sam Lung not really though. I have both watches and the design of Burberry watches are better. But the point is, why pay the same money for Movement or concerto watches when name brands are in the same price range.
@@armandol1826
I kinda ment the mechanics of it because Michael Kors watches i believe are also made by fossil. The design is their brand but the heart is fossil, all 3 brands are still nice watches respectivly but i do see your point.
Sam Lung yes I 100% agree with your point. The quartz movement is replicated through all watches noe
I’ve purchased 3 mvmt watches as a 15 year old, their extremely simple and cool designs is what motivated me to purchase them. I had no watch history at all, just a teenager looking for a cool watch. I watched reviews online and they all said they were great. After receiving the watches I loved them and so did my friends, because neither me or my friends are watch guys. This guy is extremely right on how they targeted gullible audiences like me, who don’t buy watches. If you’re just someone who wants a cool watch, I would honesty recommend them because I personally do like the way they look. After doing research and watching alternatives , this video really opened my eyes on how companies are able to sell their products purely due to uninformed audiences. Thanks
It’s all good, just over priced
lets take a seiko in the $100-$500 range,the different in quality is just another world away.look at mechanical kinetic watches if you don't like changing batteries.
Marcus Schaefer- All I want is a watch that works (hour, minute, second hand) and looks nice, would you recommend MVMT?
Eren Jeager I mean it’s up to you I think they look nice but for the price you should probably check out some other brands
You are going places Marcus.
Great video. You're great at this kind of "consumer advocacy" type of thing.
thanks mate!
Didn't expect you here
Alpha m. anyone
T I E G E H A N L E Y
He's a smurf sell out.
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Yass I love alpha
i love alpha but these watches suck
150$ for a cheap quartz watch i can buy one here in Egypt with the same low quality and aesthetics for (5$-15$)
I'll 3d print the chasis and put movements from an old quartz and it'll cost me less than 2 dollars.
Or just be normal
And when i come to Egypt for a holiday i feel like a fucking millionaire. U know what i mean?? If u go to norway u cant even buy a coffee without losing ur whole lifetime savings. 😂😂
Let me book a flight to Egypt so I can buy one there for $5.
People who never heard of Citizen or Seiko think that these are a great value lol
"Minimalist Design". More like stolen design. After seeing 1:35 onward, I'm disgusted by this company's practice of literally rebranding watches at a 10x markup.
And to think so many influencers take their sponsorship's without question...A little research goes a long way. I appreciate this video.
Didnt know id be seeing you here
@@violet_lilac Yup. Being a massive car nerd, I always thought that every car guy should have at least one mechanical, manual-wind watch. The similarities are incredible.
Ben coming in hot!
Yesssss
I was going to buy a MVNT watch for my BF for valentines day, but I just so happened to see this video in my recommended video feed! You saved me from making a bad purchase, thank you!
i bought the rosegold mvmt-watch in 2016 and am still happy with them.. quite shocked honestly when i discovered your video.. well its the last time a bought a watch from them i guess^^but still: i am (one of a few obv.) a happy and satisfied mvmt-customer
That black movement watch doesn't even look that readable, the black hands on the black dial just blend together
Black on black violence
@TheBurritoLord yeah, that watch has way too many blacks. Glad I looked into other options before buying one
I like how you mentioned how their products look better online than they do in real life. When you buy quality 'cheap' watches from brands like Seiko, Orient, Citizen etc, 99% of the time they look BETTER than they did online. Most of the time when I order a new watch I'm amazed by how much better it looks in reality. Wearing an Orient Mako II right now, couldn't be happier for the money.
As an Orient bambino owner I can say that this watch looks WAY better than the one shown online. It's mindblowing that they can sell affordable watch that looks so good. I also own the original Mako (blue) kinda sad that they went with 1 dial watch compared to 2 dials watch of the original Mako/Ray.
So true 1000%
yo why is this savage video the most honest review of these watches? Re every other mens style channel on youtube - good job man.
It's funny that MVMT product renders and marketing materials look so good, when more traditional and better watch companies like Seiko often have terrible product photos but much better looking watches up close and personal. When I bought my SARB017 the product photos really don't make it stand out, but in person it's incredible.
I really hate companies like MVMT with their sinister marketing, like you say they'll boast about having literally the bare minimum metal grade, because the numbers sound professional and impressive to the average consumer.
True , I have a Seiko 5 that in photos looks Okk but damn even after 7 years it looks WAY WAY more detailed irl.
Great video, I personally love Seiko watches, they have many options under $100 for sure
My very first watch was an Orient Bambino (which very unfortunately was stolen at the gym) and I absolutely loved it. Got compliments on it all the time and the quality was unbelievable for the price. Automatic movement as well and the same price if not far less than MVMT watches.
I feel so bad. A co-worker of mine bought a MVMT watch a few months ago and she was so happy with it when she got it, saying how she got a really good price for a quality watch. Even back then, I knew MVMT wasn't a good watch company, I just didn't know how bad they actually were. She basically got ripped off... Thanks a bunch, Ben, for educating us!
I like the fact that i got a mvmt ad right after watching this lol
Yep, let them waste their money.
I have a MVMT and a Vincero and I have no complaints. The caveat being that the former was a gift and the latter I got for a quarter of retail.
I won my mvmt watch at a club soo I got one without paying. When I saw how much it costed I was shocked and did not know the brand at all either, but now I see it being promoted by RUclipsrs a lot. The quality isn't bad but you got way more better options. But mine in really thick which for a woman's watch isn't nice
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TRIGGERED
So glad I came across this. I see them advertised on a ton of RUclips channels I watch and on instagram and stuff like that and I had seriously considered ordering a MVMT and I'm glad I didnt. Thanks man
Charlie's Gun Talk and Stuff get an orient, Seiko, citizen or Tissot at this price range! way more value for money
you should accept their offer and then make another video where you trash them
*MVTM response to that video* Thanks for that video we at MVTM felt you represented our brand very well and added overall interest in our products .....
how do you know this video ISN'T sponsored by mvmvnt?
There is no such thing as bad publicity
Fashion watches, including the big fashion names like Armani, Boss, Gucci...etc are just horribly overpriced dogshit. Spend £100 on a Seiko 5 or a second hand Orient Mako to get good looking quality.
Actually Gucci is now incorporating real Swiss calibers to its products, and real high end fashion brands like Hermes, LV, Bvlgari and Dior has high horology complications like tourbillons, minute repeaters and perpetual calendars. Understand your point, tho.
Just stumbled across this video. Brilliant. Love your honesty. I’ve been disappointed by a few people I follow on Instagram wearing these, what a let down.
I almost fell for the movement promo from a podcast I watch. Thankfully did my research and also saw this video👍
I got introduced to movement on a Political Channel.
Ben Shapiro
These people do paid promotions all over the place. Even fairly small time RUclipsrs.
@@haikat4 I first heard of MVMT from The Weekly Planet, James and Maso rave about them.
i heard of mvmt from phillip defranco
Shannon Denham eyyy.
The money that dont go to retailers ends up being pocketed by influencers they bribe to say "mass produced chinese watches" as high quality.
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thank you man. internet marketing at its finest. I've been thinking about getting one of these for ages because I love the look, but now I'll reconsider
Hey Ben, I havn't owned a nice quality watch before and have been looking for one recently. I came close to buying a mvmt thanks solely to being a subscriber to alpha m. This video saved me from a huge mistake and after watching a few more of your vids and a couple other youtubers in this space I bought a Seiko instead. Thanks for the save man!
I remember LinusTechTips advertising Vincero watches. Like, CPUs and graphics cards have nothing to do with watches, but they still advertise them in these channels.
1:43 Does someone know where I can get/buy the right watch? Or whats the name of it
I dig your videos for your honesty. No bs sponsorship to persuade you while you rock a platinum Rolex on your wrist. Quality over quantity.
Good job Ben!! I hope word gets around, but unfortunately, most people have no idea. For those prices you can also get many automatic watches that are very good. Like Orient or Seiko.
*THANK YOU* for saving me from making a terrible decision for my boyfriend's anniversary gift! I almost bought into MVMT until I saw this...
Nice video. Found you via Federico Talks Watches. Subscribed.
Is Vincero the same?
Hey Abhirup, I wouldn't be surprised if their business model was very similar. However, I haven't spent any real time with a Vincero watch, so I don't want to make any claims. Maybe some other people in the comments may be able to answer this?
I've personally had a great experience with Vincero. Doesn't feel low quality!
I've received one and yeah is the same think, if you want my opinion just buy a Orient or a Seiko 5, they are automatic watches with really great value and from really well known brands
They are definitely similar in that they are an over priced fashion watch but I'd actually day they are a step above MVMT, DW ect. More along the lines of Fossil or Michael Kors.
just get a seiko, citizen or orient .... they are much better for same or less in price
I have seen many videos about MVMT, Daniel Wellington, Vincero etc., and I still keep watching them, because I love the passion that creators of watch channels put into them 👍 Good job, Ben!
MVMT is worse than the counterfeit markets in Shenzhen LOL. At least in the counterfeit markets you can haggle them down on price like 60-80% if you are persistent and play it right.
I saw a mvmt full black with red dials for 1,89$ knockoff on ebay
I know this video is over a year old but it would be interesting to see you buy some of the OEM watches from sites like aliexpress just to show people that they literally are the same.
You’ve just saved me $150 dollars, most importantly saved me from the huge disappointment from buying their watches. Thank you.
Came here because someone recommended this video in the latest JackAsk video, as he's being sponsored by them almost all the time. Excellent video, gotta say!
This is a solid advice dude! keep up ;)
Thanks Ben, 7:01 when you say you prefer companies in investing in building better products, I recognise myself here, trying to compromise on marketing by putting more efforts in design and high end materials. Great video thanks for your work. I'd be happy to have your take on MYKU watches. Cheers!
This man right here is the youtuber that needs to have millions of followers, not some salesman who recycle his content over and over again and make a 6minute ad on his 7min video to persuade you to buy a garbage product
Great video , Orient has so many options in this range , in fact I have a second generation bambino and fourth generation bambino , I'm gonna do a comparative review on . Four generations of Bambino with mostly in house movement at same price really with and they have that bahuass look at least the second gen does,
Damn, thank you, i almost bought some of those watches...
1st video I've seen of Been Arthur and I'm already subscribing. Glad to see other's comments on Alpha M promoting this BS. I think that other guy,Men's fashion, or whatever channel also promotes MVMT. The world needs a Ben Arthur. Someone who will go against all the bullshit salespitch of those other guys trying to make a buck out of our hard earned cash!!!
U.S. viewer here, you came up on recommended. 10/10 quality content here, thank you for calling out MVMT. Happy to say I'm a subscriber now.
Yo mate, not sure if you still look through these comments but you sold me on your channel. God bless the YT algorhythm for recommending me this vid. Good on ya, great stuff.
Thanks bro!! you saved me, I was going to buy one from the 5th, but now I'll spend that money on a Tissot or Seiko
Great vid mate!
Thank you so much for this video, I don’t know anything about watches, I watched a video on the “today I found out” channel and I was seriously thinking of buying it, if it weren’t for your video I’d probably have bought that horrible watch! Thanks!
Hi Daniel, I'm subscribed to that channel myself! It's a shame so many are promoting low-quality watch brands
Love your honesty. Liked and subscribed!!! Glad I watched this video
I’m sure you can guess but certain youtubers got me into fashion watches. Luckily I did my research and I can safely say I’ve dodged a bullet. Personally, I’d say look into the Orient brand. For around the same cost you can get an automatic open heart which is definitely going to catch the eye. Hey Ben, if the strap of a watch matches the shoes and belt and the metal matches the metal respectively, does the dial color of the watch matter?
Hey! I say you can match whichever part you want. So in that case yes you can match the metal or you can match the face to give you more options :)
Completely agree with this comment. I actually purchased an automatic Orient for much less than one of the MVMT watches. It's one of my favorites in my small collection.
just got a ray2 today !
Orient is a much much much better option!
youtubers endorse mvmt in one video and then wear audemars piguet in another video😉
What do you think about Frederic Graff watches. They seem to use Ronda movement. I just got one of them yesterday. Thanks in advance :)
It’s the same thing with beats headphones they are literally the most expensive type of headphones compared to other cheaper Sony audiotechnica etc but their marketing is so smart
Yes! I've heard that!
My $20 Sony headphones have lasted me about 3 years, and they're no worse for wear.
Beats headphones are trash. Nothing more than marketing and famous names attached. Sony headphones are infinitely superior.
Hi, are Fossil watches have similar strategy as mvmt watches? How are Thier quality in comparison.
32 dislikes as of 11/22/2018 = 31 MVMT employees & Alpha M. disliked this video.
some people are pointing out in the comments you only get recommended these videos after you already buy one. I got a nixon that didnt end up working and the warranty was sketchy so i returned it and got a seiko 5, very happy. maybe do a video on warranty quality compared to watch quality
Lol. It's funny you mention the lack of originality of these brands. One held a contest on twitter to name its new watch, and went with a name suggested by a follower that was ripped off from a popular TV show. I was disgusted.
Awesome Job Ben...very informative :)
Any Seiko 5 with an aftermarket strap on it will kill any claims of value that MVMT makes.. Automatic, good finishing, great strap quality to your own standards, etc
Klopt, ik heb zelf een leuke seiko 5 diver.
Alpha M brought me here! Great work
So essentially what you're saying is that MVNT watches are overpriced for what that is?
Kinda like a very popular brand that sells watches for $10,000 for watches that can be duplicated to an identical standard for $1500.
Thank you for saving me from impulsive spending on a cheap watch. I will watch your alternatives video next now.
I'm so glad someone is finally calling them out and bringing this to light. You're 100% right about these watches. Cheap private labeled devices.
It always makes me really sad when I see a creator/influencer I enjoy promoting these things.
MVMT, DW, Kate Spade, MK are social media watches.
Promoted by people who know nothing about watches for people who know nothing about watches, all they care is a name.
DW for instance, uses the lowest and cheapest metal alloy available on market, coated with golden or silver metallic paint to make them look expensive. And will start to rust as soon as they get in contact with sweat. Underneath the dial, is a cheap Chinese generic movement, that cost no more than $3 to manufacture.
DW says: Our watches are minimalist.
Translation: The generic chinese movement we use in our watches is sooooooo cheap, that doesn't even come with date complication.
On top of that, they *shamelessly* charge their uninformed customers $350 for a piece of junk.
In alibaba.com those exact same watches can be found at 9 dollars, just without the DW painted on the dial.
In other words, 97% of the price a person pay is for those 2 letters printed on the dial of a generic Chinese watch that has no heritage, no craftsmanship, and most of all, no value.
Totally Agree with you. Awesome video. Congratulations man.
You saved my wallet bro thanks
Hey that Timex watch with the blue face that you are holding in the video. Post the link to where I can get that watch. That is a nice looking watch.
You're actually right, I bought a MVMT and after 6 months of bare use, the leather strap dyed in color and started rotting. Not impressed at all
It is a thin leather lmao. I have a komono I got for 40. Just buy it and know what it is
Where can I buy watches that look similar to Vincero but cost less?
The only concern Is i think that MVMT has the leading point when it comes to the minimalist design and fashion, if the other brands like seiko och orient would learn some from these fashion watches like MVMT, or if MVMT would improve their mechanics it would be all good. But if you're just into the looks of the watch, and love the minimalist style, then why not get a MVMT because in my opinion they do look best
I do like some of their clean minimalist designs. But in the video, he indirectly explained why you should not get a Movement watch, even if it’s just for the minimalist looks. He showed how you can get the exact same watch with the exact same specs, and looks, for a lot less money, from other Chinese manufacturers. Granted, you might have to do some research to find them. That takes time and effort. Otherwise, sure, go buy whatever makes you happy. It’s your money.
loved the video man, keep it up. You just gained another subscriber :D
Thanks Eduardo!
When someone tries selling you affordable luxury, they are probably trying to sell you expensive garbage.
They cost 1-3$ to make per watch.
I hate MVMT as much as you mate, but where did you get that figure from? Just curious :)
@@tommyhick3635 i watched a ton of videos on watch reviews and all I remember is hearing thatm i forgot from whom though. They are made to last about a year or two.
I don’t know about that man I would think 9 per watch
Prosperity Gruesome he maybe right though, the same watch coasts 3$ on Aliexpress with free shipping, so if they coast 9$ Aliexpress would be losing a lot of profits selling them for 3$ I guess
@@Itsmemulder i think it might be bulk sell price
Great video Ben! You helped me make a more informed decision. I never thought MVMT was that great to begin with, but you've opened my eyes up to some different brands and models I like way more. Thanks!
Cue the Jacksfilms references over MVMT watches.
*ME ME MVMT BOY*
It felt awkward to see him wearing a large MVMT watch on his skinny arm.
What about Vincero? I found them through another channel that was sponsored by them and they seem kinda similar to MVMT.
Everything you went over in this video has been my experience with MVMT Lol.. I first bought one after hearing about it on the Joe Rogan experience.. I used the Rogan promo code, got a discount and bought what I thought was a nice looking watch. When it arrived, I was so friggin' disappointed.. it looked and felt so cheap, the watch itself was so damn light that I thought to myself no way this is real stainless steel.. this feels like styrofoam with a metal skin Lol.
Anyway, I wore the watch twice.. the band literally fell apart the second time I wore it.. those quick release thingies popped up and the silver/metal band was fucked. So I bought a leather band to replace it.. I don't know how you can call this thing "genuine leather" I've never in my life witnessed leather so shitty.. it's hard, dry, faded in color and it's easily ruined by water.
By contrast I also bought a Vincero watch which was cheaper.. even though the movement on that thing is pretty crap, the materials themselves seem so much better than MVMT.. I still probably would not recommend either though Lol.. stick with better known brands.
yo man i need some help i want to buy a mvmt watch but i don't if they're legit and also idk which brand to select
Hi Ben, thank you for your video and detailed explanation of the facts. I feel perhaps the reason why MVMT wanted to 'sponsor' you was to silence you from making videos exposing their business practice and products - 'allegedly' - So Ben, they HAVE seen your videos but have used a crafty 'technique' to change matters. You have to remember, PR and Marketing IS their game. Thank you for sharing your knowledge on watches and enjoy a lovely Christmas and New Year.
Potentially! Thanks P MAL!
This is actually what Bethesda try to do with Yong Yea. When Yong keep talking about Bethesda's blunders they sent him a collector package for Fallout 76 but it backfired when baggate happened. Also Yong actually showed his audience what Bethesda did and it just making Bethesda looks desperate.
Thank you for this video. It was quite informative. I ordered a watch from The Fifth during black friday so maybe better value with the discounted price but after watching your video I've got buyers remorse even before getting my hands on the thing :P. Please share some more alternative options
I always thought they looked cheap
Can you recommend a good watch brand or model for groomsmen gifts? I'd like to stay under 200 for each watch.. Thanks
Seiko watches
@@leochun9444 which model tho?
@@iamfrankyrizzo for quartz watches :- look up tissot t classic desire range of watches they are around $150-$200, seiko solar powered SUP something model around 90 or 100 on amazon, citizen eco drive.
For automatic watches:- seagull 1963 Chronograph around $200, seiko 5 line(around 80 to 150) , tissot swissmatic, orient watches such as bambino, mako, Ray, kamatsu(all under $200) , timex marlin and waterbury automatic.
Have you had a hands-on with 'Filippo Loreti'? They look great but look to have the same kind of low-cost premium product business model.
Hi George, personally I haven't tried them yet, partly because I could tell straight away that their stuff was just cheap rubbish from China. The brand kind of has a bad reputation online (similar to mvmt). I rejected their offer to send me a watch a while back lol
A friend of mine bought one and yeah is rubbish
they are for sale in retail stores like the bay... I don't get it. I went with a timex weekender Fairfield for that same reason a few years ago. And that indiglow gets the ladies.
MVMT even has a partnership with Counter Logic Gaming (CLG) and it's a E sports company smh. Damn I'm so glad I didn't get baited by them.
CLG! CLG! CLG!
Was watching this video when all of a sudden a MVMT ad popped up. Great, that is exactly what I was waiting for.
wow i orderd today and now i feel like a super dumb person.
There strategy works too well. Never was intrested in watches. Saw one of them online and just wanted one of them...
Your profile sums it all
@@Aliahmed-fv4gp soo... u are so bored that you look random writers of comments and wirte an unnecessary comment under it
Gl&Hf bro
wtf tomato scrub for skin whitening xD? get something to do
Not so much i have exams in 10 days
Man it’s crazy! I was thinking the exact same thing! Thank God someone agrees!! Subscribed 😎
Refreshing to see videos like this after a certain AM video that essentially just straight lied about MVMT watches
Hey sir. Very nice content. I am going to buy my first great quality watch. Is Pierre Lannier or Armani Exchange a better quality brand compare to MVMT? Thanks a million.