Why I HATE MVMT Watches! (& Similar Brands) | Why They Aren't Worth The Money For Most Guys
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- Are MVMT watches any good? In this video, I clear up why I hate MVMT watches and why MVMT watches are bad in my opinion. I've covered something similar in my mvmt watch review, but this video is for those asking me are MVMT watches worth it.
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Sorry for the editing mistake at 1:26, I don't understand how that happened, as the preview didn't show that image in place (nevertheless it's a funny example of how cheap these watches actually are)
Dude saved me and my friend from 100$ mistake. God bless where ever you got your acent
Ugh, limey accents always sell better
from who should i buy watches?
@@mxkkel7454 Not a guarantee, but a good rule of thumb: brands that are at least 50 years old.
The only US based decent brand I know of with cheaper models has been mentioned in the video: Timex. Other than that, try the Japanese, the Swiss and the Germans.
Casio, Citizen, Seiko, Orient, Swatch, Tissot, Mido, Wenger, Junkers... have somewhat affordable (quartz) lines.
Keep in mind, a quality watch is a luxury item.
@@mxkkel7454 ehrenmann
jstn Seiko, Citizen, Wenger, Timex, Victorinox, Casio. All of them have great watches for the price.
“There is no such thing as affordable luxury.”
Preach.
Asket?
I mean there kind of are such things as affordable luxuries, except the catch is that they stop being considered as luxuries as soon as they become affordable.
Explain Seiko
@@zarelinoise3866 Well once you hit the 300 ish dollar mark you get insane finishing for the amount of money paid
That all depends on what you define as luxury.
You can always tell when TMF and Alpha M are about to promote a mvmt watch because they’re wearing it in the beginning of the video. But as soon as the next video comes out, it’s back to their Rolex’s because they know mvmt is shit
Is alpha M that cornball that actually made a video about how to dress to go and have a beer with friends? If you get any tips from that guy your life sucks.
@@ryanh2479 you must be fun at parties lol
that's business for ya
Alpha M is a scumbag, profiting off poor lonley men who want a better social life, in steps "the Alpha" and gives crap advice.
@@PokePresto I used to sub his channel long time ago. He used to do some decent videos and actually seemed genuine. But over last couple years it just shows terribly how much he turned into making a buck. When nearly every video turned into a topic wrapped around an ad pimping some cheap junk I bailed. Got old
"We cut out the middle man" - Except they ARE the middle man...
Sneak 100
They cut out the OTHER middle MEN. And harvest all the money for themselves.
They make business on an expert level. But watchout, don't buy MVMT stocks, companies like it don't last long.
@ They were actually bought out by Movado Group which owns HugoBOSS and others.
Damn this guy ROASTED mvmt! Lmao
What r u doing on here Jack? Those hypergamistic women
Buying MVMT or Daniel Wellington is so stupid you can buy automatic watches from well known brands like Seiko and orient for the same or even lower price
Carlos Bornes I know right, I can buy a Burberry or Hugo boss watch under $300 brand new.
@@armandol1826
For me, the thing with burberry, its basically a fossil watch with a burberry logo on it. But I think they cut ties with eatch other or about to but still. Im like, ehhh its a fossil lol.
Sam Lung not really though. I have both watches and the design of Burberry watches are better. But the point is, why pay the same money for Movement or concerto watches when name brands are in the same price range.
@@armandol1826
I kinda ment the mechanics of it because Michael Kors watches i believe are also made by fossil. The design is their brand but the heart is fossil, all 3 brands are still nice watches respectivly but i do see your point.
Sam Lung yes I 100% agree with your point. The quartz movement is replicated through all watches noe
Alpha m. anyone
T I E G E H A N L E Y
He's a smurf sell out.
Lel
Yass I love alpha
i love alpha but these watches suck
I’ve purchased 3 mvmt watches as a 15 year old, their extremely simple and cool designs is what motivated me to purchase them. I had no watch history at all, just a teenager looking for a cool watch. I watched reviews online and they all said they were great. After receiving the watches I loved them and so did my friends, because neither me or my friends are watch guys. This guy is extremely right on how they targeted gullible audiences like me, who don’t buy watches. If you’re just someone who wants a cool watch, I would honesty recommend them because I personally do like the way they look. After doing research and watching alternatives , this video really opened my eyes on how companies are able to sell their products purely due to uninformed audiences. Thanks
It’s all good, just over priced
lets take a seiko in the $100-$500 range,the different in quality is just another world away.look at mechanical kinetic watches if you don't like changing batteries.
Marcus Schaefer- All I want is a watch that works (hour, minute, second hand) and looks nice, would you recommend MVMT?
Eren Jeager I mean it’s up to you I think they look nice but for the price you should probably check out some other brands
You are going places Marcus.
People who never heard of Citizen or Seiko think that these are a great value lol
150$ for a cheap quartz watch i can buy one here in Egypt with the same low quality and aesthetics for (5$-15$)
I'll 3d print the chasis and put movements from an old quartz and it'll cost me less than 2 dollars.
you can buy a cheaper one off eBay. At least the cheap unnamed china watches are worth their price. xD
Or just be normal
And when i come to Egypt for a holiday i feel like a fucking millionaire. U know what i mean?? If u go to norway u cant even buy a coffee without losing ur whole lifetime savings. 😂😂
Let me book a flight to Egypt so I can buy one there for $5.
Great video. You're great at this kind of "consumer advocacy" type of thing.
thanks mate!
Didn't expect you here
"Minimalist Design". More like stolen design. After seeing 1:35 onward, I'm disgusted by this company's practice of literally rebranding watches at a 10x markup.
And to think so many influencers take their sponsorship's without question...A little research goes a long way. I appreciate this video.
Didnt know id be seeing you here
@@violet_lilac Yup. Being a massive car nerd, I always thought that every car guy should have at least one mechanical, manual-wind watch. The similarities are incredible.
I like how you mentioned how their products look better online than they do in real life. When you buy quality 'cheap' watches from brands like Seiko, Orient, Citizen etc, 99% of the time they look BETTER than they did online. Most of the time when I order a new watch I'm amazed by how much better it looks in reality. Wearing an Orient Mako II right now, couldn't be happier for the money.
As an Orient bambino owner I can say that this watch looks WAY better than the one shown online. It's mindblowing that they can sell affordable watch that looks so good. I also own the original Mako (blue) kinda sad that they went with 1 dial watch compared to 2 dials watch of the original Mako/Ray.
So true 1000%
It's funny that MVMT product renders and marketing materials look so good, when more traditional and better watch companies like Seiko often have terrible product photos but much better looking watches up close and personal. When I bought my SARB017 the product photos really don't make it stand out, but in person it's incredible.
I really hate companies like MVMT with their sinister marketing, like you say they'll boast about having literally the bare minimum metal grade, because the numbers sound professional and impressive to the average consumer.
True , I have a Seiko 5 that in photos looks Okk but damn even after 7 years it looks WAY WAY more detailed irl.
I like the fact that i got a mvmt ad right after watching this lol
Yep, let them waste their money.
Jacksfilms
TRIGGERED
Ben coming in hot!
Yesssss
That black movement watch doesn't even look that readable, the black hands on the black dial just blend together
Black on black violence
@TheBurritoLord yeah, that watch has way too many blacks. Glad I looked into other options before buying one
I feel so bad. A co-worker of mine bought a MVMT watch a few months ago and she was so happy with it when she got it, saying how she got a really good price for a quality watch. Even back then, I knew MVMT wasn't a good watch company, I just didn't know how bad they actually were. She basically got ripped off... Thanks a bunch, Ben, for educating us!
The money that dont go to retailers ends up being pocketed by influencers they bribe to say "mass produced chinese watches" as high quality.
I got introduced to movement on a Political Channel.
Ben Shapiro
These people do paid promotions all over the place. Even fairly small time RUclipsrs.
@@haikat4 I first heard of MVMT from The Weekly Planet, James and Maso rave about them.
i heard of mvmt from phillip defranco
Shannon Denham eyyy.
I won my mvmt watch at a club soo I got one without paying. When I saw how much it costed I was shocked and did not know the brand at all either, but now I see it being promoted by RUclipsrs a lot. The quality isn't bad but you got way more better options. But mine in really thick which for a woman's watch isn't nice
Great vid mate!
I was going to buy a MVNT watch for my BF for valentines day, but I just so happened to see this video in my recommended video feed! You saved me from making a bad purchase, thank you!
My very first watch was an Orient Bambino (which very unfortunately was stolen at the gym) and I absolutely loved it. Got compliments on it all the time and the quality was unbelievable for the price. Automatic movement as well and the same price if not far less than MVMT watches.
Awesome Job Ben...very informative :)
Just wondering: I asked you some months ago whether you'd do one on vincero, you ever planned on doing that? Or that outta picture?
yo why is this savage video the most honest review of these watches? Re every other mens style channel on youtube - good job man.
*THANK YOU* for saving me from making a terrible decision for my boyfriend's anniversary gift! I almost bought into MVMT until I saw this...
They cost 1-3$ to make per watch.
I hate MVMT as much as you mate, but where did you get that figure from? Just curious :)
@@tommyhick3635 i watched a ton of videos on watch reviews and all I remember is hearing thatm i forgot from whom though. They are made to last about a year or two.
I don’t know about that man I would think 9 per watch
Prosperity Gruesome he maybe right though, the same watch coasts 3$ on Aliexpress with free shipping, so if they coast 9$ Aliexpress would be losing a lot of profits selling them for 3$ I guess
@@Itsmemulder i think it might be bulk sell price
you should accept their offer and then make another video where you trash them
*MVTM response to that video* Thanks for that video we at MVTM felt you represented our brand very well and added overall interest in our products .....
how do you know this video ISN'T sponsored by mvmvnt?
There is no such thing as bad publicity
I remember LinusTechTips advertising Vincero watches. Like, CPUs and graphics cards have nothing to do with watches, but they still advertise them in these channels.
I went to school for marketing and I've noticed a lot of these companies shell out for brand ambassadors on social media. It makes sense to offer products to a smaller page on Instagram and have them make a post or two about that product, but some of these companies shell out millions this kind of advertising. Seems kind of dishonest to have someone promoting a product on Instagram that they don't even actually use, just because a company like MVMT gave them a bunch of money. I owned a Seiko 5 for a couple years, best watch under $100 by far. It had an automatic movement, beautiful build quality, and could last forever (I only got rid of it because I had no money one semester lol). Planning on purchasing an Orient Bambino V3 soon
Great video!
Very informative video... what do you think about Emporio Armani watches?
I almost fell for the movement promo from a podcast I watch. Thankfully did my research and also saw this video👍
You’ve just saved me $150 dollars, most importantly saved me from the huge disappointment from buying their watches. Thank you.
Love your honesty. Liked and subscribed!!! Glad I watched this video
Nice video. Found you via Federico Talks Watches. Subscribed.
Damn, thank you, i almost bought some of those watches...
MVMT is worse than the counterfeit markets in Shenzhen LOL. At least in the counterfeit markets you can haggle them down on price like 60-80% if you are persistent and play it right.
I saw a mvmt full black with red dials for 1,89$ knockoff on ebay
Thanks for the informative video
Fashion watches, including the big fashion names like Armani, Boss, Gucci...etc are just horribly overpriced dogshit. Spend £100 on a Seiko 5 or a second hand Orient Mako to get good looking quality.
Actually Gucci is now incorporating real Swiss calibers to its products, and real high end fashion brands like Hermes, LV, Bvlgari and Dior has high horology complications like tourbillons, minute repeaters and perpetual calendars. Understand your point, tho.
This is a solid advice dude! keep up ;)
thank you man. internet marketing at its finest. I've been thinking about getting one of these for ages because I love the look, but now I'll reconsider
Excellent advice!!
Great video, I personally love Seiko watches, they have many options under $100 for sure
What do you use to edit your videos?
Hey bro, I am using Adobe Premiere Pro. Tbh it's okay but a bit complicated
I personally use Davinci Resolve...the free version is unbelievable and I've used many editing softwares, but this one is amazing, especially the color grading tools. Totally recommend it
You saved my wallet bro thanks
Hey Ben, I havn't owned a nice quality watch before and have been looking for one recently. I came close to buying a mvmt thanks solely to being a subscriber to alpha m. This video saved me from a huge mistake and after watching a few more of your vids and a couple other youtubers in this space I bought a Seiko instead. Thanks for the save man!
Great video Ben! You helped me make a more informed decision. I never thought MVMT was that great to begin with, but you've opened my eyes up to some different brands and models I like way more. Thanks!
This man right here is the youtuber that needs to have millions of followers, not some salesman who recycle his content over and over again and make a 6minute ad on his 7min video to persuade you to buy a garbage product
So glad I came across this. I see them advertised on a ton of RUclips channels I watch and on instagram and stuff like that and I had seriously considered ordering a MVMT and I'm glad I didnt. Thanks man
Charlie's Gun Talk and Stuff get an orient, Seiko, citizen or Tissot at this price range! way more value for money
What do you think about Frederic Graff watches. They seem to use Ronda movement. I just got one of them yesterday. Thanks in advance :)
loved the video man, keep it up. You just gained another subscriber :D
Thanks Eduardo!
I'm so glad someone is finally calling them out and bringing this to light. You're 100% right about these watches. Cheap private labeled devices.
It always makes me really sad when I see a creator/influencer I enjoy promoting these things.
MVMT, DW, Kate Spade, MK are social media watches.
Promoted by people who know nothing about watches for people who know nothing about watches, all they care is a name.
DW for instance, uses the lowest and cheapest metal alloy available on market, coated with golden or silver metallic paint to make them look expensive. And will start to rust as soon as they get in contact with sweat. Underneath the dial, is a cheap Chinese generic movement, that cost no more than $3 to manufacture.
DW says: Our watches are minimalist.
Translation: The generic chinese movement we use in our watches is sooooooo cheap, that doesn't even come with date complication.
On top of that, they *shamelessly* charge their uninformed customers $350 for a piece of junk.
In alibaba.com those exact same watches can be found at 9 dollars, just without the DW painted on the dial.
In other words, 97% of the price a person pay is for those 2 letters printed on the dial of a generic Chinese watch that has no heritage, no craftsmanship, and most of all, no value.
Any Seiko 5 with an aftermarket strap on it will kill any claims of value that MVMT makes.. Automatic, good finishing, great strap quality to your own standards, etc
Klopt, ik heb zelf een leuke seiko 5 diver.
1:43 Does someone know where I can get/buy the right watch? Or whats the name of it
Hey Ben, what do you think about smart watches? Like the Galaxy watch?
Cue the Jacksfilms references over MVMT watches.
*ME ME MVMT BOY*
It felt awkward to see him wearing a large MVMT watch on his skinny arm.
Thanks bro!! you saved me, I was going to buy one from the 5th, but now I'll spend that money on a Tissot or Seiko
I have seen many videos about MVMT, Daniel Wellington, Vincero etc., and I still keep watching them, because I love the passion that creators of watch channels put into them 👍 Good job, Ben!
Just stumbled across this video. Brilliant. Love your honesty. I’ve been disappointed by a few people I follow on Instagram wearing these, what a let down.
Refreshing to see videos like this after a certain AM video that essentially just straight lied about MVMT watches
U.S. viewer here, you came up on recommended. 10/10 quality content here, thank you for calling out MVMT. Happy to say I'm a subscriber now.
Great video!!!!!
Totally Agree with you. Awesome video. Congratulations man.
Honest video!
I’m sure you can guess but certain youtubers got me into fashion watches. Luckily I did my research and I can safely say I’ve dodged a bullet. Personally, I’d say look into the Orient brand. For around the same cost you can get an automatic open heart which is definitely going to catch the eye. Hey Ben, if the strap of a watch matches the shoes and belt and the metal matches the metal respectively, does the dial color of the watch matter?
Hey! I say you can match whichever part you want. So in that case yes you can match the metal or you can match the face to give you more options :)
Completely agree with this comment. I actually purchased an automatic Orient for much less than one of the MVMT watches. It's one of my favorites in my small collection.
just got a ray2 today !
Orient is a much much much better option!
youtubers endorse mvmt in one video and then wear audemars piguet in another video😉
Love the tips, love the accent! Cheers :D
Hi, are Fossil watches have similar strategy as mvmt watches? How are Thier quality in comparison.
It’s the same thing with beats headphones they are literally the most expensive type of headphones compared to other cheaper Sony audiotechnica etc but their marketing is so smart
Yes! I've heard that!
My $20 Sony headphones have lasted me about 3 years, and they're no worse for wear.
Beats headphones are trash. Nothing more than marketing and famous names attached. Sony headphones are infinitely superior.
32 dislikes as of 11/22/2018 = 31 MVMT employees & Alpha M. disliked this video.
I dig your videos for your honesty. No bs sponsorship to persuade you while you rock a platinum Rolex on your wrist. Quality over quantity.
U earned my subs. Great content.
Lol. It's funny you mention the lack of originality of these brands. One held a contest on twitter to name its new watch, and went with a name suggested by a follower that was ripped off from a popular TV show. I was disgusted.
Honest at its top by Ben
What do you think about the brand filippo loreti? Thanks love your video 👍🏼
yo man i need some help i want to buy a mvmt watch but i don't if they're legit and also idk which brand to select
You're actually right, I bought a MVMT and after 6 months of bare use, the leather strap dyed in color and started rotting. Not impressed at all
It is a thin leather lmao. I have a komono I got for 40. Just buy it and know what it is
I just wish watch brands with some history and affordability for young people like Seiko learnt from MVMTs advertising and sponsored all the fashion you tubers
Absolutely mate, me too. They would make a killing. Especially brands like Timex (at their low price point) would be rolling it in!
I've emailed some before and just got no response at all
Seiko' s problem is the aesthetic.
cj stats
Idk, they have some sick chronographs and their cocktail watches looks amazing
cj stats no seikos problem is people think they’re cheap but they forget they can actually compete with Rolex in terms of pricing and in some cases are even better than a Rolex
Excellent, there needs to be more of this with products that have come out lately
Hey sir. Very nice content. I am going to buy my first great quality watch. Is Pierre Lannier or Armani Exchange a better quality brand compare to MVMT? Thanks a million.
MVMT even has a partnership with Counter Logic Gaming (CLG) and it's a E sports company smh. Damn I'm so glad I didn't get baited by them.
CLG! CLG! CLG!
Have you had a hands-on with 'Filippo Loreti'? They look great but look to have the same kind of low-cost premium product business model.
Hi George, personally I haven't tried them yet, partly because I could tell straight away that their stuff was just cheap rubbish from China. The brand kind of has a bad reputation online (similar to mvmt). I rejected their offer to send me a watch a while back lol
A friend of mine bought one and yeah is rubbish
Just found the channel any opinion on the brand Nixon? I'm just getting into watch collecting and I must say I love the different options Nixon offers with some of their watches.
Love your honestly and your research
Nailed it.
Everything you went over in this video has been my experience with MVMT Lol.. I first bought one after hearing about it on the Joe Rogan experience.. I used the Rogan promo code, got a discount and bought what I thought was a nice looking watch. When it arrived, I was so friggin' disappointed.. it looked and felt so cheap, the watch itself was so damn light that I thought to myself no way this is real stainless steel.. this feels like styrofoam with a metal skin Lol.
Anyway, I wore the watch twice.. the band literally fell apart the second time I wore it.. those quick release thingies popped up and the silver/metal band was fucked. So I bought a leather band to replace it.. I don't know how you can call this thing "genuine leather" I've never in my life witnessed leather so shitty.. it's hard, dry, faded in color and it's easily ruined by water.
By contrast I also bought a Vincero watch which was cheaper.. even though the movement on that thing is pretty crap, the materials themselves seem so much better than MVMT.. I still probably would not recommend either though Lol.. stick with better known brands.
I have a MVMT and a Vincero and I have no complaints. The caveat being that the former was a gift and the latter I got for a quarter of retail.
Wow! Didn’t know this before, Thank You!
this needs to be shared
Great guy you are Ben! Just says it how it is 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Cheers James!
Thank you so much for this video. I was somewhat considering one of these watches but discovered their negative reputation. I was baffled as to why and here we are! I'll certainly look into the alternatives!
Good job Ben!! I hope word gets around, but unfortunately, most people have no idea. For those prices you can also get many automatic watches that are very good. Like Orient or Seiko.
Hi Ben, thank you for your video and detailed explanation of the facts. I feel perhaps the reason why MVMT wanted to 'sponsor' you was to silence you from making videos exposing their business practice and products - 'allegedly' - So Ben, they HAVE seen your videos but have used a crafty 'technique' to change matters. You have to remember, PR and Marketing IS their game. Thank you for sharing your knowledge on watches and enjoy a lovely Christmas and New Year.
Potentially! Thanks P MAL!
This is actually what Bethesda try to do with Yong Yea. When Yong keep talking about Bethesda's blunders they sent him a collector package for Fallout 76 but it backfired when baggate happened. Also Yong actually showed his audience what Bethesda did and it just making Bethesda looks desperate.
i almost got one because of jacksfilms, thank god at that same time i was gifted a nice invicta so i decided to stay with their brand lol
This was SO helpful - thank you! Glad I watched before purchasing a watch for my husband.
Can anyone suggest me a good alternative to original grain watches or are original grain actually good??