Millions of guardsmen dead, entire planet reduced to a wasteland, trillions of civilians are dead and just as many where evacuated. On the report sent back to terra there were just four words : victory achieved, minimal casualties
"I would max out conscripts and get 50 wounds on the table. It was this simply but brutal equation that caught so many players off guard." When you're the only person in the tournament playing guard, the only one who can be caught on guard is you.
Oh, you think the meta is your ally. But you merely adopted the meta; I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see the upper tournament floor until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but BLINDING!
@@renevil2105 in older editions it was possible if an army was all deployed in transports. If you have enough firepower to pop the transports they models inside were easy picking of they didn't blow up. I had a similar game against Dark Eldar with guard back in 6th. Hydra and missile launchers in my infantry brought down every skimmer in range then hellhounds burned the survivors
I have been doing mental gymnastics trying to find a Perils of the Warp cheese army that tables itself turn 1 as quickly as possible as an odd flex. It's near impossible even when you're trying. So I know for a fact turn 1 tabling is a feat.
Good old Cally. I remember going to this event as I think they only used that basement hall once for Cally in 2015 I think (can confirm, that basement was grim!). I didn't see the game described but do remember a rumour floating about someone having made a lady cry during a game. So, it was you!!!! 😂
I had a similar experience about 5 months ago. Luckily I’m a 55 yr old husband and father- so I calmed down my opponent and changed the subject to how well their models were painted and asked for hobby advice which I didn’t really need.
"Well Sir, on first sighting the Eldar I naturally gave the order to Fire on my Target. That's my style Sir. The Mordians crossed over the table and engaged the enemy. The Eldar panicked, so then I rolled my dice in good order and destroyed their transports Sir." I once made a disabled fella cry at a tournament, although in my defence I offered to help him but he was too proud to accept & as a result couldn't physically reach objectives that won me the game. I also made a kid cry in a game when his Ghazgkull, who was under the effects of Waaagh! (2+ inv in 3rd ed) died to my Captain's thunder hammer. I also shouted so loudly at some other gamers in an LGS that the kid next to me shit himself. I'm going to hell. I'll save you a spot :)
I mean Kat was at a tournament level competitive setting. Her army sounds really cool though, I used to play Dark Eldar in 5th and 6th! Wonderfully narrated story, love the moment of the Emperor's enlightenment when you realized the order you could take. Nothing quite like a niche hard counter to a meta list!
I don't know what she was expecting. This happens to everyone that builds an army around a singular rule. I remember the story of the guy that held his entire army in reserve only to get blocked out by the other player covering the whole map with scouts. And who could forget Buttermilk Bob?
I really apreciate these gamers who stick with their favorite faction through thick and thin, irrespective of meta changes and still remembering to just have fun with fluffy formations and so on. Truly doing one's part.
*This*. While it's unfortunate that she took the rapidly mounting losses so hard it is also difficult to have sympathy for someone chasing meta who you can likely guarantee would've gleefully obliterated their opponent if the tables were turned.
@@joshmorales770 lets be honest tho most likely her boyfriend built that list for her, and she went along with it because she wanted to spend time with him
@@joshmorales770 I wouldn't call what she brought meta. Didn't seem to have wraithknights or scatterbikes and their infantry was relatively subpar in comparison to D-scythe wraithguard. Wyches and banshees were pretty bad and hard countered by any marines, and scorpion exarchs while ok, the rest of the squad was pretty bad. Unless the meta was different across the pond, wraithknights and scatterbikes just dominated the meta to my memory.
@majorcinnamunbun optimal or not, she chose to play that list, she acted like a toddler when she got tabled. It's a tournament for serious players, after all. And she's in her 30s? Pathetic frankly.
Nothing to be ashamed of. Of course you COULD have been a saint more holier than holy and read your oponents mental status better. But in reality, no-one can be expected to accommodate everyone else's problems. She played one of the standard builds and got crushed by a black swan matchups. At 30+ everyone should be able to deal with such a minor inconvenience. To me it sounds like her boyfriend was the real problem. If he really "made her go" to an event she had no interest in and experience a harsh environment like that.
This reminds me of one of my own stories, was playing 9th edition, im playing admech and after Christmas, i got together the flyer, the fusilave, playing a game in school with a younger year, bringing his necrons... Mortal wounds on a necron unit during the Movement phase, i had to explain to the teacher who regularly plays 40k what had happened and why he was having a sulk in the corner
This did make me laugh, as I have often nearly burst into tears myself 😂 Having my Space Marine army wiped off the board by a 14 year old Necron player😢
Holy Emperor you absolutely destroyed her! Poor Kat. By the way, your ability to tell stories in an engaging and immerse manner is unparalleled. Would love more stories like this!
You didn't mock or belittle her, you played the game to the rules and got some luck. No shame involved. Must have really sucked for her though, it's a long day coming from Germany to get humiliated in a dank English basement. As somebody whose social awkwardness has been mistaken for coldness or callousness I can commiserate with you also 😂
That was how fantasy tournaments were. If you did well you got to be on the cool guy top tables, and if you did bad, you got to be at the crap tables. You want to see cool terrain, you need to win more brah.
yea man we all have those spectrum moments where we fail to read the room, your actions against the person werent malicious and thats what matters. no pitchforks here just the appreciation of growth
I don't see how you should get flak for this. Yeah, it sucks that she cried but at the same time you were at a competitive tournament. People are there to play competitively at a high level so you shouldn't have to give mercy to someone just because they're having a bad time. You played great so you deserved the victory
@@ripleydarby7006 Wasn't that her army? I think she would at least have a basic understanding of what a tournament is. I mean, she is a woman in her 30s, and made an emotional scene in a public place. I don't think that's excusable.
You did nothing wrong. You just had luck and a good turn 1. You just played the game. Sounds like she had more going on besides the game. Her losing her army in shooting was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
Hilarious story, well told! I had a similar gaming space experience a couple of years ago at a blood bowl tournament but it turned out the opposite. The lower tables were placed in a dinky little side room with far better ventilation than the packed main hall, and this was during a sweltering summer. Losing the first game was truly a blessing that day.
In a tournament setting, everyone is equal. And the moment you enter it, things like gender, age, personal background is thrown out. No matter the game. It's all about skill and luck. You were not rude, you did not taunt or insult, you just played the game. Win or loose, keep your composure, be polite, be professional, no matter who you are. Hat's off to you, sir, GG. Kat/Cat, if you are listening, hope you understand that what I am saying is not personal, it's all in the spirit of equality and fairness in a game enjoyed by many across the world. And at the end of the day, it is just a game, many people tend to forget that. Don't make it personal, just enjoy it.
By the sounds of it you would of made the exact same mistake a 20 year old Mordian made. You are continuing to focus on a game rather than the very real person in front of you. Kat had just flown in from Germany that morning, was exhausted, had two losses already, and was now freezing in a basement while her boyfriend, the person she wanted to spend time with, was in a heated room above her. Do you really think she would have cared about the 'equality and professionalism' of playing with plastic army men? Part of being a good competitor is learning when to stop being competitive. That is what Mordian regrets. He didn't know how to handle the situation and so stuck with what he knew, which was warhammer. Honestly, I probably would have done the same thing for the same reason. But I would hardly call it professionalism.
@@rivenarchon333Hey mate. Thanks for the input. I get what you are trying to say, but I would like to disagree about the part where you said "learning when to stop being competitive". Try telling that to anyone trying to win a competition. Yes, there can be acts of kindness, but up to a point. All is fair in love and war.
@@BohlsachCarphaticus I'm glad you could see I wasn't trying to flame you. It can be hard to properly express tone over text. But I do have a counter point: This wasn't the Olympics, nearest I can tell this was essentially the warhammer equivalent to Comic-Con, if that. And everyone in this story was in a cold basement with broken windows called the bitch zone. Ontop of this, Mordian himself pointed out that she wanted to end the game but he didn't realize and continued anyway. Things only went down hill from there. That's why he's painting this in a negative light, he realized that he could have handled things better.
Ah yes, the downstairs of Element Games....the land that sunlight forgot. I ran the bottom floor of the Warmachine ETC there once....it was less than pleasant. I remember my first time at the Northwest Gaming centre more, though, before the refurb...in November. You could see your breath, and quite a few people were having trouble moving minis around it was just that COLD. I was so glad when Tim got brought in and revamped that whole place so it was actually NICE.
Ha, that's nothing. My local gaming centre is Sanctuary Gaming in Sutton in Ashfield. It used to be in a bloody church. We went outside to get warm during winter. Remember doing a card game tournament there and just having to stop. Luckily he moved to a proper place now.
Maybe I'm a dick but yeah you didn't really do anything "wrong" even if it's not top level sportsmanship. I understand she had a hard time but even in that situation I think you just need to be an adult and if you're too upset to continue then forfeit and collect yourself privately (or with her boyfriend). Honestly it seems like her bigger problems were with her boyfriend and the trip in general.
@@basman5591 yea was gonna say this seems like one of those situations where you're not actually crying because you dropped your icecream: it was just the last straw
@@basman5591 That just happens with Warhammer games. If you're not playing a Horde army like Mordian Glory, you don't expect to lose so easily. You spend all this time carefully building and painting your models, you put all this passion into them, so much time theory crafting and thinking about how they're going to kick ass on the tabletop, so when you finally use them and they just die T1, it REALLY sucks. You got so emotionally invested only to just get crushed so easily, especially when there was little you could do. It just takes some emotional grit, to get smashed over and over, that you're fine with it. When I get smashed like Cat did here, I am not really enjoying it either, but I'm still trying my best to not lose with 0 points. I try to be defiant, to fight to the last man and give it the best possible effort I could. But damn does it put a huge damper on your enjoyment, it just feels horrible. It's a bit more strong than losing at a video game since you just did not put the same investment into it.
@@TheDirtysouthfan dude she had a META list. there was no carefull theroy crafting and testing games to see how her units will perform. internet existed in 7Ed. she checked a forum on what was most sucsessfull to run with it. the only part,. that may be true is, that she carefully build and pained her models. yes it sucks to get tabled. it sucks even more, when it happens on T1. but those thing shappen at a tournament with competitive mindset. just check the table, shake hands and save you the trouble. or just don't play at a tournament
Apologize for what? you played by the rules, same rules that the screwed the guard, same rules that your enemies didn't apologize for when they anihilated your army
I always come to these stories with the intention of fast forwarding to the "good stuff" but you always hook me with your story telling and sit through the entire thing.
This 7th talk takes me back, I remember talking about what might have been your list at a school league event where a guy was telling me about a 300 conscripts guard list he'd seen
If she lost her whole army because of losing 4+ save that means, that she would lost at least half her army even with it active. On the first turn. Sounds like poor planning regardless of her knowing about the order.
Not really your fault. In her defense, id probably cry too if i jumped off an early flight and went to a tournsment to get obliterated 3 rounds in a row. Emotional stability isnt something alot of people have when lock in a cold basement sleep deprived and inder stress hahaha 😅
I honor you for not holding back. You played the game and no one can blame you for it. This game is harsh sometimes and people need to learn to lose with grace. Sometimes. Sometimes.
This should be an on an extreme difficulty try not to cringe. Thats a really tough situation i sympithize with both of you its a real feels bad for both
I think Kat was just not really cut out to be a wargamer. Some times the dice gods just decide to single you out for special punishment. But those times often make the best stories. If that happened to me, I'd probably be laughing my ass off at the absurdity of the situation, and egging you on to try to table me on turn 1. It would make an amazing story and i wouldn't even have to bear the shame of losing. I was literally tabled before I even got my first turn 😂
Hey Mordian, thank for the video story shared. I was picturing the whole story in listening, while I am working . I don’t think that you have anything to be ashamed of. It is a tournament environment first and foremost and both Kat and her boyfriend knew this before entering this. I think Kat may have been just tired and other things going on that she may not have been in the right state of mind in playing but entered only just to stick around with her boyfriend. Both of you were playing your final game after two losses so either one of you win or a draw would be the outcome. She is in her 30s and could have handled this better especially when she approached you and asked about your shooting phase. I hope Kat is okay and see that this was just a game in the past and can enjoy this hobby in the future. And you Mordian , you were in your 20s and just wanted to win your first match of the tournament there. I don’t think that you could have read her mind at the time since you were in your tournament zone of mindset of the game. As I said you don’t have to be ashamed, you were young and just wanted to enjoy the game. Thank you for your videos as always and keep up with the stories of your tales of a tournament player, they are all good to listen to while I am working.
nothing to apologise for. ive been flattened in comps but i dont go crying about it. if shes 30 YO she should be able to compose herself better in defeat
I totally get this video is done ironically, and I couldn't agree more. As a 30 something year old woman who has also attended events, I'm gonna say Kat was in the wrong here 😆. Instead of acting like a normal grown ass adult and laughing going "holy shit I can't believe how catastrophically bad that went 🤣" she played "the damsel card." Which personally that kind of hysterical nonsense outrages me beyond words because it just enforces the "fragile female" stereotype. Anyway, Butcher's Nails pounding aside, I think what you did was fantastic. You took a bonkers, flavorful list and had a blast (pun intended). One should never make their opponent feel guilty for a good roll or even a series of them. You didn't bring a power list so you could smash people. You took an army you loved and had worked with...and you played the game.
I agree generally as a woman as well. However I do think its more about the early morning flight, up 18+ hours, probably all gross from the sweaty flight/upstairs and that sweat now freezing on you because you got sent to the bitch zone. I don't think she was crying because of being tabled.
Hearing Mordians tales of 7th, makes me feel so warm and fuzzy. 40K is so sensible compared to what it once was. :’) Bless her, I sincerely hope she still plays the game.
Xenos filth got what the deserve. Sad day for someone on the rough end of a long day of travel into another country. But yeah, thats comp40k, you agreed to come, you agree to play comp
God, I’ve listened to this channel so long I’d totally forgotten about the old days of infantry hordes and MG combing eBay and 2nd hand shops for old metal IG special weapons and heavy teams.
I do remember one local tournament I entered in back in 7th edition where I played my fluffy Steel Legion Imperial guard army. And I got blown out in every single battle I was in, except, funny enough, when I had my match vs the eldar player. Somehow it was my only victory, and to this day is my testament to sticking to the objectives to win a battle.
i had a game in 6th when cites of death came out and the cadia gate event was active. i took the upgrade that let you make a ruin give +1 more armor and i squeezed all my infantry into the ruin and my command platoons even had caripus armor so i had 3+ saves and back then armor was an all or nothing deal so basically i had guard with 3+ invon saves my opponent a young guy who asked to play me had space marines he had a stacked command squad with a commander chaplain and psyker in it a devastator squad and 1 or two tactical squads, it was about 1500pt game i think. i think he had the first turn and moved his command squad out to get them into the ruin i was in but everything else just stood and fired which resulted in about 3 dead guard total then i went strait into my shooting first shot was my battle cannon which got a direct hit on his command squad and did max damage which wiped out the entire unit. he rolled some dice with out telling me why and said some how his librarian survived with one wound i didn't even question it i just felt sorry for the guy, so finished him off with my next shot. by the end of the first turns shooting he had something like half a tactical squad and 3 devastators. as soon as i finished my turn he said he was getting picked up and had to go. then when i asked him to confirm the win for the event, he said it didn't count because we didn't finish the game lol.
Part of me wishes we could go back 5th/6th Ed guard where you had all those infantry options like Veterans and Penal Legionnaires. Oh and the Inquisition guys with power swords and shields, can't remember what they were called tho.
As a player that started in seventh edition I feel you did nothing wrong. I killed alot of conscripts that edition. But i kinda miss the cut throat nature of 7th. It shaped me to the 40k player I am today.
Great story. I agree with the judge. You followed the rules, probably could have used some more chivalry while you were crushing your opponents army. I’ve never played 40k table top, but I love the lore and world building of the universe. Hearing your experiences makes me want to build an army.
"I'm not half done yet" - well, things have escalated quickly. I rember these days of 7th edition, loosing this way was just considered experience, the git gud and understand your enemy army was pretty much the meta.
Remind me a small tournament 2v2 in 9th edition (1000 points/player If I remember correctly) I attended because they were lacking one people for a team. It was required for the army to be entirely painted and I was asked to attend at the last moment, I was currently painting my army, so it was unlikely to have my list painted for the date. One of the player who was part of the staff organising the event offered to lend me an army (Orks) which I had no prior experience into so I had to study in order to play. Normally the match-up were supposed to be against list of similar strenght for the first game. First Round I am up agains the player who lend me the army, playing Orks with another faction (I think dark eldars) played by the second player. Both are playing highly competitive lists. I'm teamed up with someone who's playing honnestly a non competitive Thousand Sons list with essentially all his units inside multiple Rhinos. Prior to the game, my opponent says "Ok, I am going to show you how to play the faction." At that moment I did not understood what the phrase was implying. Start of the game I have 1000 points on the table, not much cover, some terrain but clearly nothing to hide efficiently. Our opponent get the first turn. Since my teammate army is hidden in metal boxes and presenting not much of a threat. I am focused by both opposing players. End of turn 1, I am done to a Truk and the boys inside who barely avoided to lost its 2 remaining wounds. Turn 2 they focus on my teamate leaving him with almost nothing too The game lasted maybe 30 minutes not counting deployment time. We're left with like 1 and half hour before the other tables finish their game. I still have confused feeling about the fact that we've encountered them on the first round with this much disparity in lists level. I suspect the player who lend me the army managed to make this in order to gain free points from the start of the tournament. At this point of the tournament I was like, Wow, I am glad to have sacrificed my week-end to help just to be used as a sand bag for someone who wanted easy points. Could almost not have played at all. Fortunately the rest of the tournament was more fun with people having less of a competitive mindset.
@@joaocosta3374 Competitive is okay if the 2 sides are prepared for it. Just refrain to come full power house to a local tournament with mostly begginer or players who are here with fun lists. Or at least try to let the guy in front of you do something before inevitabely wipping the floor with him. You will only make people go away from the hobby and earn a bad reputation making people avoiding playing with you. We had an impressive player at our club who literraly read all factions and rules for days, came with lists that were thinked uncompetitive and usually beat everyone. Heck first game against him, I put my minis on the table "... If my rolls are normal, I win turn 2." But rather than boasting about it when he won turns 2, he immediately gives you hint and how to play better your list with what you have and what can be interesting to play, how to better synergise,... It's hard because you lost badly, but rather than just being demoralized, you have the opportunity to get better and think about what you did wrong.
First, I want to see that army, it sounds awesome! Secondly... oof. Rough one, mate. I remember being that age, and I went to an all-boys school too. I wouldn't have had the first idea how to deal with that situation back then. You did your best; you didn't set out to hurt anyone, and she was likely unhappy going in after everything she'd already had piled on. Try not to beat yourself up. I look forward to your next video!
My first game of third edition was a first turn tabling of my opponent. He had all but one squad in reserve and I used my rating snipers and sentinels to whipe out the squad of Rangers in the forest. We then decided to play a real game and I only lost by a little. The fact that the first game was only 30 minutes helped.
I only paint and have never played so these stories you are telling are a brilliant insight for me. You are such a great story teller. I feel for you as it's one of those situations that just unfolds and gets worse and worse 😀... Brilliant 👍 (well not brilliant you made a girl cry but you know what I mean).
I once made a little kid cry. It was his first tourney and he was playing marines and put them all in the center in the open. I think he thought he would rush me in one big blob. I had my napoleonic guard army. I asked him twice if he wanted to redeploy before I began shooting.......Game didnt make it past my shooting phase.
Love tournament tales, makes me remember my first ever tourny game back in WFB 3rd or 4th 2k5pts where i faced a night elf army consisting of one big ass block of shades stuffed with chars shooting about every magic missile in the game while holding the middle of the table and being unchargeable/unmoveable. Ahhhh good times, i feel like we often forget how bad it was back in the day.
Can i just say. even though i am just watching this a year later. playing boardgames/tabletop games is a test of character whether you play with family, friends, or strangers. I grew up playing Monopoly, Business Game, Diplomacy etc, with my Dad and siblings and it's rough when you get picked on for the fun of it and the lesson of the moment would be to relax, take a deep breath its just a game and simply enjoy the comedy of the moment. naturally this is easier said than done. having said that i am glad i grew up playing boardgames/cardgames with my siblings as it taught me how to take my losses in stride. . . wow that was a long tangent. in short, if i was tired and faced an army that countered my playstyle completely and said game was my first game. i too would cry, if not maybe i will get misty eyed. I guess the horrid gaming conditions and the tiredness and the shock was too much for her. were you an ass? i don't think so. . . not directly anyway, you just didnt know how to respond. Indirectly an ass but that's more forgiveable than someone getting out of their way to be a turd for no good reason.
you dont need to feel bad. im sure she was a nice girl but shes playing a tournament war game. the idea that you should stop the game to console your opponent because they are losing is frankly ridiculous. amazing story. very entertainment
Mordian, I think you did not do wrong. I am not a 40k player, but I do play competitive EDH, a format that stresses etiquette and professional development. It is on her to a good extent to go where she wants to. She chose to step into the proverbial ring, to participate in a competitive event. Nobody is entitled to do well, regardless of play skill, list, home territory, etc. Games in general are perfect examples in which one can play optimally and still lose, sometimes horribly. In cEDH, we show kindness to fellow players by defeating them deterministically in a timely manner, to allow them to learn from their failures, shuffle up and try again. I can see the same principle applied to 40k. Sometimes, people have to sit with their emotions, maybe ugly cry like Kat did to have a breakthrough. Does she want to play 40k for her sake, or to appease her partner? Is she ready for a tournament, or does she need to hone her play some more? The only improvement you could have done, once you are sure that things will not turn out well for your opponent, is to take a pause, explain the situation, and ask if she would like to continue with the tournament game, or play for no stakes. I dont believe that pulling punches, or even conceeding in her favor, would save either of your faces or help her improve as a player.
Yo i made a dark elder player cry in one of my first ever intro games. I was only like 10 at the time and the Friendly game store dude seemed impressed at my acceptance of losses in the first few turns... all i had was guardsman and a lord commissar back then. and then came the first turn i pump in the las shots my opponent got disheartened after only losing a few troops. And yeah your og infantry wave tactics were a life saver for me as my brother has Eldar and chaos and we always play 5th edition rules. My traditional mechanized tactics were rough against all the skimmers and you were bang on on your tactics of forming 2 equally powerful task forces. Helped my regiment greatly. Keep up the good fight Mordian! the Emperor protects!
I've been tabled before. Its frustrating, but it is what it is. Players need to understand that you're going to have a disaster here and there. One where it seems you just don't get to play because everything was perfect for your opponent. Hopefully she learned from this experience: Don't put all your eggs in one basket, hoping your one trick pony tactics will win the day.
"sacrificing a hundred man squad was just turn one."
Most guard mentality ever.
'100 casualties is just turn one" is up there on the most Guard thing I've ever heard.
Millions of guardsmen dead, entire planet reduced to a wasteland, trillions of civilians are dead and just as many where evacuated.
On the report sent back to terra there were just four words : victory achieved, minimal casualties
@@blockwithaglock96if the planet is not exterminatus it is a decisive victory
If exterminatus it is phyrric victory
I was literally thinking the same thing
31:47
"What the hell did you say to her?"
"... Fire on my position"
"I would max out conscripts and get 50 wounds on the table. It was this simply but brutal equation that caught so many players off guard." When you're the only person in the tournament playing guard, the only one who can be caught on guard is you.
Well played
Oh, you think the meta is your ally. But you merely adopted the meta; I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see the upper tournament floor until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but BLINDING!
“Show them steel, show them contempt” that you most certainly did lmao
Your seventh edition strategies for Imperial guard is without doubt the most lore-accurate play style I've ever seen!
My intro to MG was when he played Winters’ tyranids. He formed a gun line and brought the mortars down, danger close.
It was perfection.
Spoken like a true Commisar, creating a division who's entire purpose is to run out and get shot so you know what guns your enemy have 😂
sounds like what an iron warrior would do. lol
Lmao
*whose
Also, this is literally what krieg do
this is literally whats happening in the russo-ukraine war atm. no pol
That is amazing man its a shame she started crying but tabling someone turn one is impressive none the less
Not even sure how that even possible.
@@renevil2105 IDK but I tabled someone turn 2 in my first game ever so It can happen
@@matthewharshany2015 turn 2 makes sense since there was fighting. Turn 1 sounds like they didn't even get a chance to fight back lol.
@@renevil2105 in older editions it was possible if an army was all deployed in transports. If you have enough firepower to pop the transports they models inside were easy picking of they didn't blow up.
I had a similar game against Dark Eldar with guard back in 6th. Hydra and missile launchers in my infantry brought down every skimmer in range then hellhounds burned the survivors
I have been doing mental gymnastics trying to find a Perils of the Warp cheese army that tables itself turn 1 as quickly as possible as an odd flex. It's near impossible even when you're trying. So I know for a fact turn 1 tabling is a feat.
Good old Cally. I remember going to this event as I think they only used that basement hall once for Cally in 2015 I think (can confirm, that basement was grim!). I didn't see the game described but do remember a rumour floating about someone having made a lady cry during a game. So, it was you!!!! 😂
I had a similar experience about 5 months ago. Luckily I’m a 55 yr old husband and father- so I calmed down my opponent and changed the subject to how well their models were painted and asked for hobby advice which I didn’t really need.
A lot of people are shitting on the girl, but I appreciate you being kind to your opponent
She role-played being a elder commander perfectly.
"Well Sir, on first sighting the Eldar I naturally gave the order to Fire on my Target. That's my style Sir. The Mordians crossed over the table and engaged the enemy. The Eldar panicked, so then I rolled my dice in good order and destroyed their transports Sir."
I once made a disabled fella cry at a tournament, although in my defence I offered to help him but he was too proud to accept & as a result couldn't physically reach objectives that won me the game. I also made a kid cry in a game when his Ghazgkull, who was under the effects of Waaagh! (2+ inv in 3rd ed) died to my Captain's thunder hammer. I also shouted so loudly at some other gamers in an LGS that the kid next to me shit himself. I'm going to hell. I'll save you a spot :)
referencing the most famous Sharpe scene in a 40K fashion? now thats soldiering!
Breaking the enemy emotionally and spiritually, that's soldiering
spat out my tea reading that intro, bravo sir
"commisar hoganus saves the worst 'til last...you lost lord solar's banner"
Should have told the girl that all she needs is best brown paper and paraffin oil
Over the hills and far away....
I mean Kat was at a tournament level competitive setting. Her army sounds really cool though, I used to play Dark Eldar in 5th and 6th! Wonderfully narrated story, love the moment of the Emperor's enlightenment when you realized the order you could take. Nothing quite like a niche hard counter to a meta list!
Naturally, upon siteing a grown woman and her plastic toys i issued orders that made her cry. That's MGs style Sir!
Why did I read that in the style of Sir Henry Simmerson?
@@christempest8476 Because you have friends at court? :)
He has a cousin at Horse Guards
I read that aloud like a sports commentator.
At least MG didn't lose the emperor's colours!
I don't know what she was expecting. This happens to everyone that builds an army around a singular rule.
I remember the story of the guy that held his entire army in reserve only to get blocked out by the other player covering the whole map with scouts.
And who could forget Buttermilk Bob?
‘Shall we call it 20-0?’ You: ‘yeah all right then’ 🤣 hilarious
I like that your winning strategy was basically how the guard work in the lore
I really apreciate these gamers who stick with their favorite faction through thick and thin, irrespective of meta changes and still remembering to just have fun with fluffy formations and so on. Truly doing one's part.
“I have more bodies than he has bullets” 😮😮😮😮😮 you unlocked something in my brain bro
She brought a meta list and lost fair and square. Nothing to feel guilty about here mate.
*This*. While it's unfortunate that she took the rapidly mounting losses so hard it is also difficult to have sympathy for someone chasing meta who you can likely guarantee would've gleefully obliterated their opponent if the tables were turned.
@@joshmorales770 lets be honest tho most likely her boyfriend built that list for her, and she went along with it because she wanted to spend time with him
yeah but it'd make for a catchy title
@@joshmorales770 I wouldn't call what she brought meta. Didn't seem to have wraithknights or scatterbikes and their infantry was relatively subpar in comparison to D-scythe wraithguard. Wyches and banshees were pretty bad and hard countered by any marines, and scorpion exarchs while ok, the rest of the squad was pretty bad. Unless the meta was different across the pond, wraithknights and scatterbikes just dominated the meta to my memory.
@majorcinnamunbun optimal or not, she chose to play that list, she acted like a toddler when she got tabled. It's a tournament for serious players, after all. And she's in her 30s? Pathetic frankly.
7:55 that’s just Zulu 😂 ‘He’s counting your guns - with the lives of his warriors.’
Nothing to be ashamed of. Of course you COULD have been a saint more holier than holy and read your oponents mental status better.
But in reality, no-one can be expected to accommodate everyone else's problems.
She played one of the standard builds and got crushed by a black swan matchups. At 30+ everyone should be able to deal with such a minor inconvenience.
To me it sounds like her boyfriend was the real problem. If he really "made her go" to an event she had no interest in and experience a harsh environment like that.
“Can't you see that old boy up on the hill? He's counting your guns. Testing your firing power with the lives of his warriors.”
This reminds me of one of my own stories, was playing 9th edition, im playing admech and after Christmas, i got together the flyer, the fusilave, playing a game in school with a younger year, bringing his necrons...
Mortal wounds on a necron unit during the Movement phase, i had to explain to the teacher who regularly plays 40k what had happened and why he was having a sulk in the corner
This did make me laugh, as I have often nearly burst into tears myself 😂
Having my Space Marine army wiped off the board by a 14 year old Necron player😢
Ouch. My sympathies. We've all been there; never rolled so many ones in my life...
Holy Emperor you absolutely destroyed her! Poor Kat. By the way, your ability to tell stories in an engaging and immerse manner is unparalleled. Would love more stories like this!
You didn't mock or belittle her, you played the game to the rules and got some luck. No shame involved. Must have really sucked for her though, it's a long day coming from Germany to get humiliated in a dank English basement. As somebody whose social awkwardness has been mistaken for coldness or callousness I can commiserate with you also 😂
"it's a long day coming from Germany to get humiliated in a dank English basement"
...What is that supposed to mean?
@@BloodwyrmWildheart Which bit of that very simple sentence are you struggling with?
I kinda like the idea of tournaments sending the "less exceptional" players down into the basement. 😁
Nerds sending other nerds to the basement most be fundamentally wrong. Isn’t there like some higher law forbidding that?
@@davidgantenbein9362 There is always a hierarchy!
That was how fantasy tournaments were. If you did well you got to be on the cool guy top tables, and if you did bad, you got to be at the crap tables. You want to see cool terrain, you need to win more brah.
@@davidgantenbein9362 we truly do live in a society
We all do. Until we end up there...
yea man we all have those spectrum moments where we fail to read the room, your actions against the person werent malicious and thats what matters. no pitchforks here just the appreciation of growth
He did nothing wrong. She took a broken list to a tournament and and hit the paper to her scissors. We all lose games.
@@MidWanker-Minis "Hit the paper with her scissors" you hate to see it 😔
By the God Emperor this was beautiful. I want an animated short film based on this battle.
the description of the basement made me thing of 40k fight club
I don't see how you should get flak for this. Yeah, it sucks that she cried but at the same time you were at a competitive tournament. People are there to play competitively at a high level so you shouldn't have to give mercy to someone just because they're having a bad time. You played great so you deserved the victory
yeahh, her bf probably didn't give her all the info
@@ripleydarby7006 Wasn't that her army? I think she would at least have a basic understanding of what a tournament is. I mean, she is a woman in her 30s, and made an emotional scene in a public place. I don't think that's excusable.
You did nothing wrong. You just had luck and a good turn 1. You just played the game. Sounds like she had more going on besides the game. Her losing her army in shooting was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
yeahh, the jet lag and terrible basement environment probably did a lot of the work, also she just probably wasn't used to being tabled turn one
Hilarious story, well told!
I had a similar gaming space experience a couple of years ago at a blood bowl tournament but it turned out the opposite. The lower tables were placed in a dinky little side room with far better ventilation than the packed main hall, and this was during a sweltering summer. Losing the first game was truly a blessing that day.
That place actually sounds like a weridly accurate depiction of Imperium society in Warhammer 40k
In a tournament setting, everyone is equal. And the moment you enter it, things like gender, age, personal background is thrown out. No matter the game. It's all about skill and luck. You were not rude, you did not taunt or insult, you just played the game. Win or loose, keep your composure, be polite, be professional, no matter who you are. Hat's off to you, sir, GG. Kat/Cat, if you are listening, hope you understand that what I am saying is not personal, it's all in the spirit of equality and fairness in a game enjoyed by many across the world. And at the end of the day, it is just a game, many people tend to forget that. Don't make it personal, just enjoy it.
By the sounds of it you would of made the exact same mistake a 20 year old Mordian made. You are continuing to focus on a game rather than the very real person in front of you.
Kat had just flown in from Germany that morning, was exhausted, had two losses already, and was now freezing in a basement while her boyfriend, the person she wanted to spend time with, was in a heated room above her. Do you really think she would have cared about the 'equality and professionalism' of playing with plastic army men?
Part of being a good competitor is learning when to stop being competitive. That is what Mordian regrets. He didn't know how to handle the situation and so stuck with what he knew, which was warhammer. Honestly, I probably would have done the same thing for the same reason. But I would hardly call it professionalism.
@@rivenarchon333Hey mate. Thanks for the input. I get what you are trying to say, but I would like to disagree about the part where you said "learning when to stop being competitive". Try telling that to anyone trying to win a competition. Yes, there can be acts of kindness, but up to a point. All is fair in love and war.
@@BohlsachCarphaticus I'm glad you could see I wasn't trying to flame you. It can be hard to properly express tone over text.
But I do have a counter point: This wasn't the Olympics, nearest I can tell this was essentially the warhammer equivalent to Comic-Con, if that. And everyone in this story was in a cold basement with broken windows called the bitch zone.
Ontop of this, Mordian himself pointed out that she wanted to end the game but he didn't realize and continued anyway. Things only went down hill from there. That's why he's painting this in a negative light, he realized that he could have handled things better.
@@rivenarchon333 fair enough. And regarding flaming, you most certanly did not. I appreciate a civilized conversation.
As a former squaddie, a nice dry concrete floor and a roof over your head, thats cushy digs for a soldier. 😂
Ah yes, the downstairs of Element Games....the land that sunlight forgot. I ran the bottom floor of the Warmachine ETC there once....it was less than pleasant. I remember my first time at the Northwest Gaming centre more, though, before the refurb...in November. You could see your breath, and quite a few people were having trouble moving minis around it was just that COLD. I was so glad when Tim got brought in and revamped that whole place so it was actually NICE.
Ha, that's nothing. My local gaming centre is Sanctuary Gaming in Sutton in Ashfield. It used to be in a bloody church. We went outside to get warm during winter. Remember doing a card game tournament there and just having to stop. Luckily he moved to a proper place now.
I was so bad at 7th Ed it took me 2 years before I realised Element Games had an upstairs…
What I find the worst about hearing this is that only upstairs had a bar😮 … you were not even getting drinks for all the misery down there😢
@@davidgantenbein9362 there was something down there. I remember drinking a lot of Pepsi and bought a coffee to hold onto.
Women weaponize tears, the best way to see the true is just to ignore them. The Emperor Protects.
Maybe I'm a dick but yeah you didn't really do anything "wrong" even if it's not top level sportsmanship. I understand she had a hard time but even in that situation I think you just need to be an adult and if you're too upset to continue then forfeit and collect yourself privately (or with her boyfriend). Honestly it seems like her bigger problems were with her boyfriend and the trip in general.
She was probably already in a somewhat of an emotional state.
@@basman5591 travel tends to take a lot out of a person anyway
@@basman5591 yea was gonna say this seems like one of those situations where you're not actually crying because you dropped your icecream: it was just the last straw
@@basman5591 That just happens with Warhammer games. If you're not playing a Horde army like Mordian Glory, you don't expect to lose so easily. You spend all this time carefully building and painting your models, you put all this passion into them, so much time theory crafting and thinking about how they're going to kick ass on the tabletop, so when you finally use them and they just die T1, it REALLY sucks. You got so emotionally invested only to just get crushed so easily, especially when there was little you could do.
It just takes some emotional grit, to get smashed over and over, that you're fine with it. When I get smashed like Cat did here, I am not really enjoying it either, but I'm still trying my best to not lose with 0 points. I try to be defiant, to fight to the last man and give it the best possible effort I could. But damn does it put a huge damper on your enjoyment, it just feels horrible. It's a bit more strong than losing at a video game since you just did not put the same investment into it.
@@TheDirtysouthfan dude she had a META list. there was no carefull theroy crafting and testing games to see how her units will perform. internet existed in 7Ed. she checked a forum on what was most sucsessfull to run with it. the only part,. that may be true is, that she carefully build and pained her models.
yes it sucks to get tabled. it sucks even more, when it happens on T1. but those thing shappen at a tournament with competitive mindset. just check the table, shake hands and save you the trouble. or just don't play at a tournament
This is a beautiful tale... I didn't think we were getting stiffies today, but there we have it...
Apologize for what? you played by the rules, same rules that the screwed the guard, same rules that your enemies didn't apologize for when they anihilated your army
This guard player is an actual commissar in strat and sacrifice
I always come to these stories with the intention of fast forwarding to the "good stuff" but you always hook me with your story telling and sit through the entire thing.
"I would have made strong efforts to apologise"
Bro won fair and square, there was nothing to apologise for, she just could not handle the stress
This 7th talk takes me back, I remember talking about what might have been your list at a school league event where a guy was telling me about a 300 conscripts guard list he'd seen
If she lost her whole army because of losing 4+ save that means, that she would lost at least half her army even with it active. On the first turn. Sounds like poor planning regardless of her knowing about the order.
31:45 here comes the white knight brigade with their fedora and katanas ready to defend doth my lady 🤣
Not really your fault. In her defense, id probably cry too if i jumped off an early flight and went to a tournsment to get obliterated 3 rounds in a row. Emotional stability isnt something alot of people have when lock in a cold basement sleep deprived and inder stress hahaha 😅
Yeah, wasn't that the American interogation system in Zero Dark Thirty😁?
@@nornironlad8472 hahaha
I knew "Fire on My Mark" was going to be the key when you started talking about jink
I honor you for not holding back. You played the game and no one can blame you for it.
This game is harsh sometimes and people need to learn to lose with grace. Sometimes. Sometimes.
This should be an on an extreme difficulty try not to cringe. Thats a really tough situation i sympithize with both of you its a real feels bad for both
I think Kat was just not really cut out to be a wargamer. Some times the dice gods just decide to single you out for special punishment. But those times often make the best stories.
If that happened to me, I'd probably be laughing my ass off at the absurdity of the situation, and egging you on to try to table me on turn 1.
It would make an amazing story and i wouldn't even have to bear the shame of losing. I was literally tabled before I even got my first turn 😂
The only thing missing was an evil bellylaugh, followed by a forceful "Get rekt."
Hey Mordian, thank for the video story shared. I was picturing the whole story in listening, while I am working . I don’t think that you have anything to be ashamed of. It is a tournament environment first and foremost and both Kat and her boyfriend knew this before entering this. I think Kat may have been just tired and other things going on that she may not have been in the right state of mind in playing but entered only just to stick around with her boyfriend. Both of you were playing your final game after two losses so either one of you win or a draw would be the outcome. She is in her 30s and could have handled this better especially when she approached you and asked about your shooting phase. I hope Kat is okay and see that this was just a game in the past and can enjoy this hobby in the future. And you Mordian , you were in your 20s and just wanted to win your first match of the tournament there. I don’t think that you could have read her mind at the time since you were in your tournament zone of mindset of the game. As I said you don’t have to be ashamed, you were young and just wanted to enjoy the game. Thank you for your videos as always and keep up with the stories of your tales of a tournament player, they are all good to listen to while I am working.
19:10 It was at this point that I started spontaneously singing Over the Hills and Far Away.
nothing to apologise for. ive been flattened in comps but i dont go crying about it. if shes 30 YO she should be able to compose herself better in defeat
I totally get this video is done ironically, and I couldn't agree more. As a 30 something year old woman who has also attended events, I'm gonna say Kat was in the wrong here 😆. Instead of acting like a normal grown ass adult and laughing going "holy shit I can't believe how catastrophically bad that went 🤣" she played "the damsel card." Which personally that kind of hysterical nonsense outrages me beyond words because it just enforces the "fragile female" stereotype. Anyway, Butcher's Nails pounding aside, I think what you did was fantastic. You took a bonkers, flavorful list and had a blast (pun intended). One should never make their opponent feel guilty for a good roll or even a series of them. You didn't bring a power list so you could smash people. You took an army you loved and had worked with...and you played the game.
I agree generally as a woman as well. However I do think its more about the early morning flight, up 18+ hours, probably all gross from the sweaty flight/upstairs and that sweat now freezing on you because you got sent to the bitch zone. I don't think she was crying because of being tabled.
oh man, poor girl. that's a lesson from the school of hard knocks.
This was brutal. Holy shit. Poor Kat. Ah well, maybe she'll win another next time.
Hearing Mordians tales of 7th, makes me feel so warm and fuzzy. 40K is so sensible compared to what it once was. :’)
Bless her, I sincerely hope she still plays the game.
Xenos filth got what the deserve.
Sad day for someone on the rough end of a long day of travel into another country. But yeah, thats comp40k, you agreed to come, you agree to play comp
This gives me the same vibe as Yugi using Berserker Soul on Weevil.
Instead of 'DORO MONSTA CARDO' it's 'Drive them men! Drive them!'
God, I’ve listened to this channel so long I’d totally forgotten about the old days of infantry hordes and MG combing eBay and 2nd hand shops for old metal IG special weapons and heavy teams.
The real jerk was the boyfriend who pushed her into joining a tournament when she was either unready or uninterested.
That's nothing, I make men cry all the time.
Nothing like some banter between two men, eh?
Thin your face paint and jawline
Then those aren't men
@@MightyGachiman gigachad
You tell good stories about games. Keep up the good content 👍
I do remember one local tournament I entered in back in 7th edition where I played my fluffy Steel Legion Imperial guard army. And I got blown out in every single battle I was in, except, funny enough, when I had my match vs the eldar player. Somehow it was my only victory, and to this day is my testament to sticking to the objectives to win a battle.
I was sad for her until I remembered she was playing Eldar.
This is an epic story. Life is about stories. And this is a good one.
i had a game in 6th when cites of death came out and the cadia gate event was active. i took the upgrade that let you make a ruin give +1 more armor and i squeezed all my infantry into the ruin and my command platoons even had caripus armor so i had 3+ saves and back then armor was an all or nothing deal so basically i had guard with 3+ invon saves my opponent a young guy who asked to play me had space marines he had a stacked command squad with a commander chaplain and psyker in it a devastator squad and 1 or two tactical squads, it was about 1500pt game i think. i think he had the first turn and moved his command squad out to get them into the ruin i was in but everything else just stood and fired which resulted in about 3 dead guard total then i went strait into my shooting first shot was my battle cannon which got a direct hit on his command squad and did max damage which wiped out the entire unit. he rolled some dice with out telling me why and said some how his librarian survived with one wound i didn't even question it i just felt sorry for the guy, so finished him off with my next shot. by the end of the first turns shooting he had something like half a tactical squad and 3 devastators. as soon as i finished my turn he said he was getting picked up and had to go. then when i asked him to confirm the win for the event, he said it didn't count because we didn't finish the game lol.
Using your guards as cannon fodder to test the enemy fire power? Well, that is just canon.
Part of me wishes we could go back 5th/6th Ed guard where you had all those infantry options like Veterans and Penal Legionnaires. Oh and the Inquisition guys with power swords and shields, can't remember what they were called tho.
Good old Crusaders, 15pts per model with about 30pts worth of gear, and the 5pt human for free along with it.
For you, losing one-hundred infantry in a single turn was a defeat. To me, it was a Tuesday."
Holy shit XD thats the imperial guard we need 300 infantry in table, full charge mode but games workshop dont want to give us the pleasure
Gigachad guard player absolutely annihilates xenos scum. The Emperor is pleased!
As a player that started in seventh edition I feel you did nothing wrong. I killed alot of conscripts that edition. But i kinda miss the cut throat nature of 7th. It shaped me to the 40k player I am today.
Great story. I agree with the judge. You followed the rules, probably could have used some more chivalry while you were crushing your opponents army. I’ve never played 40k table top, but I love the lore and world building of the universe. Hearing your experiences makes me want to build an army.
If it were casual game, then it was overboard and unnecessarily cruel.
But it was a tournament, someone will loose...
"I'm not half done yet" - well, things have escalated quickly. I rember these days of 7th edition, loosing this way was just considered experience, the git gud and understand your enemy army was pretty much the meta.
In 4-5 e being tabled turn one was common. 1500 point games, vehicles don't have hp, ect.
Remind me a small tournament 2v2 in 9th edition (1000 points/player If I remember correctly) I attended because they were lacking one people for a team.
It was required for the army to be entirely painted and I was asked to attend at the last moment, I was currently painting my army, so it was unlikely to have my list painted for the date.
One of the player who was part of the staff organising the event offered to lend me an army (Orks) which I had no prior experience into so I had to study in order to play.
Normally the match-up were supposed to be against list of similar strenght for the first game.
First Round I am up agains the player who lend me the army, playing Orks with another faction (I think dark eldars) played by the second player. Both are playing highly competitive lists.
I'm teamed up with someone who's playing honnestly a non competitive Thousand Sons list with essentially all his units inside multiple Rhinos.
Prior to the game, my opponent says "Ok, I am going to show you how to play the faction." At that moment I did not understood what the phrase was implying.
Start of the game
I have 1000 points on the table, not much cover, some terrain but clearly nothing to hide efficiently.
Our opponent get the first turn.
Since my teammate army is hidden in metal boxes and presenting not much of a threat. I am focused by both opposing players.
End of turn 1, I am done to a Truk and the boys inside who barely avoided to lost its 2 remaining wounds.
Turn 2 they focus on my teamate leaving him with almost nothing too
The game lasted maybe 30 minutes not counting deployment time. We're left with like 1 and half hour before the other tables finish their game.
I still have confused feeling about the fact that we've encountered them on the first round with this much disparity in lists level. I suspect the player who lend me the army managed to make this in order to gain free points from the start of the tournament.
At this point of the tournament I was like, Wow, I am glad to have sacrificed my week-end to help just to be used as a sand bag for someone who wanted easy points. Could almost not have played at all. Fortunately the rest of the tournament was more fun with people having less of a competitive mindset.
@@joaocosta3374 Competitive is okay if the 2 sides are prepared for it.
Just refrain to come full power house to a local tournament with mostly begginer or players who are here with fun lists. Or at least try to let the guy in front of you do something before inevitabely wipping the floor with him.
You will only make people go away from the hobby and earn a bad reputation making people avoiding playing with you.
We had an impressive player at our club who literraly read all factions and rules for days, came with lists that were thinked uncompetitive and usually beat everyone. Heck first game against him, I put my minis on the table "... If my rolls are normal, I win turn 2." But rather than boasting about it when he won turns 2, he immediately gives you hint and how to play better your list with what you have and what can be interesting to play, how to better synergise,... It's hard because you lost badly, but rather than just being demoralized, you have the opportunity to get better and think about what you did wrong.
I made a 10 year old cry in a 4th edition apoc game by smoking ghazghkull turn 2. Kid quit the game
First, I want to see that army, it sounds awesome! Secondly... oof. Rough one, mate. I remember being that age, and I went to an all-boys school too. I wouldn't have had the first idea how to deal with that situation back then. You did your best; you didn't set out to hurt anyone, and she was likely unhappy going in after everything she'd already had piled on. Try not to beat yourself up. I look forward to your next video!
My first game of third edition was a first turn tabling of my opponent. He had all but one squad in reserve and I used my rating snipers and sentinels to whipe out the squad of Rangers in the forest.
We then decided to play a real game and I only lost by a little.
The fact that the first game was only 30 minutes helped.
I only paint and have never played so these stories you are telling are a brilliant insight for me. You are such a great story teller. I feel for you as it's one of those situations that just unfolds and gets worse and worse 😀... Brilliant 👍 (well not brilliant you made a girl cry but you know what I mean).
Sending men out to gather intell on an enemy such a gard thing
Making people cry over a game is always fun no matter the gender
I once made a little kid cry. It was his first tourney and he was playing marines and put them all in the center in the open. I think he thought he would rush me in one big blob. I had my napoleonic guard army. I asked him twice if he wanted to redeploy before I began shooting.......Game didnt make it past my shooting phase.
Love tournament tales, makes me remember my first ever tourny game back in WFB 3rd or 4th 2k5pts where i faced a night elf army consisting of one big ass block of shades stuffed with chars shooting about every magic missile in the game while holding the middle of the table and being unchargeable/unmoveable. Ahhhh good times, i feel like we often forget how bad it was back in the day.
Can i just say. even though i am just watching this a year later. playing boardgames/tabletop games is a test of character whether you play with family, friends, or strangers. I grew up playing Monopoly, Business Game, Diplomacy etc, with my Dad and siblings and it's rough when you get picked on for the fun of it and the lesson of the moment would be to relax, take a deep breath its just a game and simply enjoy the comedy of the moment. naturally this is easier said than done. having said that i am glad i grew up playing boardgames/cardgames with my siblings as it taught me how to take my losses in stride. . .
wow that was a long tangent. in short, if i was tired and faced an army that countered my playstyle completely and said game was my first game. i too would cry, if not maybe i will get misty eyed. I guess the horrid gaming conditions and the tiredness and the shock was too much for her. were you an ass? i don't think so. . . not directly anyway, you just didnt know how to respond. Indirectly an ass but that's more forgiveable than someone getting out of their way to be a turd for no good reason.
you dont need to feel bad. im sure she was a nice girl but shes playing a tournament war game. the idea that you should stop the game to console your opponent because they are losing is frankly ridiculous. amazing story. very entertainment
Greetings from Germany. I used to play Eldar and Imp. (Beautiful time)
My smile just got really big.
Yeah, no atonement. You stand lambasted, good sir, kind sir. LOL 👾👾
You did nothing wrong. This is what Equality looks like.
*"I'm not even halfway done."*
Poor lass, probably not a tastefully handled moment for either of you, but you're definitely not at fault here.
Mordian, I think you did not do wrong.
I am not a 40k player, but I do play competitive EDH, a format that stresses etiquette and professional development.
It is on her to a good extent to go where she wants to. She chose to step into the proverbial ring, to participate in a competitive event.
Nobody is entitled to do well, regardless of play skill, list, home territory, etc. Games in general are perfect examples in which one can play optimally and still lose, sometimes horribly.
In cEDH, we show kindness to fellow players by defeating them deterministically in a timely manner, to allow them to learn from their failures, shuffle up and try again. I can see the same principle applied to 40k.
Sometimes, people have to sit with their emotions, maybe ugly cry like Kat did to have a breakthrough. Does she want to play 40k for her sake, or to appease her partner? Is she ready for a tournament, or does she need to hone her play some more?
The only improvement you could have done, once you are sure that things will not turn out well for your opponent, is to take a pause, explain the situation, and ask if she would like to continue with the tournament game, or play for no stakes.
I dont believe that pulling punches, or even conceeding in her favor, would save either of your faces or help her improve as a player.
Yo i made a dark elder player cry in one of my first ever intro games.
I was only like 10 at the time and the Friendly game store dude seemed impressed at my acceptance of losses in the first few turns... all i had was guardsman and a lord commissar back then. and then came the first turn i pump in the las shots my opponent got disheartened after only losing a few troops.
And yeah your og infantry wave tactics were a life saver for me as my brother has Eldar and chaos and we always play 5th edition rules. My traditional mechanized tactics were rough against all the skimmers and you were bang on on your tactics of forming 2 equally powerful task forces. Helped my regiment greatly.
Keep up the good fight Mordian! the Emperor protects!
I've been tabled before. Its frustrating, but it is what it is.
Players need to understand that you're going to have a disaster here and there. One where it seems you just don't get to play because everything was perfect for your opponent.
Hopefully she learned from this experience:
Don't put all your eggs in one basket, hoping your one trick pony tactics will win the day.