As someone who spends a lot of time hunting and trapping, this would be awesome for hearing an animal and overall being more in tune with nature since it's so quiet. Love your videos, good to see salt of the earth guys out enjoying themselves.
dude. this is likely 1 of 2 functioning production prototypes they have. They need to use it for media, investors and just general testing. I'm sure you can jump on it and hang off the side while going full throttle on a curve and have fun with it.. but when a start up has limited funds and is trying to move in to production.. prototypes are precious.
@@PowerModzOfficial A Monster Electric Elan Would Be So Cool, Hey Maybe You Could Consult For Taiga??? High Tech Meets Old School Sled Modder, For Starters "Reducing The Weight Of Those Sleds" And Then Mod The Hell Out Of It.... That's What You Do
I’m excited about what the future holds for electric sleds. The Taiga is further along than I first realized. I would love owning and riding a sled that didn’t produce exhaust and greatly reduce the required amount of maintenance. I really like the idea of an electric sled!
PowerModz any other sled would rip through that. Stop using that as your excuse. The sled sucks so face it. One o got form the 70s would drive better in that condition
@@PowerModzOfficial it looked like it pushed really bad. My VK pushes in wet snow as well but not that bad. I’m thinking they didn’t have the skid set up correctly and it needs more ski pressure? The actual snowmachine part of the Taiga is what gives me the most concern. Making a good handling sled is not easy. I don’t have the impression that the folks a Taiga are super experienced with the chassis side as compared to the batteries and electronic side. I’d feel better if one of the big OEM’s partnered with them and you’d have an established dealer network and a chassis (like Polaris) you knew would ride and handle well. Starting at $15,000 is too big of a price for me to gamble on. I’m sold on the concept of an electric sled and am looking forward to watching how they progress along.
I see the Taiga Nomad is running a Sportsman Snowmobile Rack. They should of set it up with electric ice auger holder and a battery chainsaw in the chainsaw holder. Full electric utility!
Pretty cool to see the two opposite ends of the technology scale, on one end the ol’Elan from back in 19 dickety 2 , and then this new age Electric angry pixy powered machine!
PowerModz it’s not even bad. If you can’t handle that then snow mobility isn’t for you. You don’t know what’s bad until you ride one from the 60s or 70s.
Tiaga should add a bluetooth feature for radio, mp3 take advantage of the quiet. Couple speakers on the sled and in your helmet. I'd love the tunes loud and clear on the trail. Be one selling point for me.
I had great hope for these, have considered buying the Echo..... Until watching this video! Reminds me of my grammas rascal.... Thanks for making the video!
Dont let that throw you off, these things have tons of power. Will be making another vid next season and unleashing the power. cheers and thanks for watching.
Boy that thing is prosperous, I could RIP alot of wieght off that thing. Big future for this rig. I think the mtn. Performance is very exciting. Consultation from 30 years of mountain extreme riding free.
Hoping that eventually the snowmobile will have a quieter sound like the Tesla. The snowmobile sound is one of the most destructive environmental sounds in winter. It frightens animals and birds, it is horrible for the ears and is one of the most unpleasant sounds in existence. The rush people get from it is not the heavy rumble but rather the deadening quiet when you finally turn it off. Lousy for hearing later in life when you keep doing that over and over to your ears. Bravo to the electric- I am not suggesting total silence like the Tesla because that would be dangerous to the forest life.
Won't spook the moose or dear from a distance. Now you will come around a corner right on top of said spooked Mack Truck, hopefully not with the limiter key on low.
Electric motors are far superior then combustion engines. Especially in winter. We just need better batteries and we will never look back. (Come at me trolls).
Can totaly see myself on an electric snowmobile, but one problem, happens atleast once a year I am following a trail in forest and a huge moose is having a nap on the trail, standing up 15m infront of me. Need that noise or I will run into the moose for sure. Had some brown pants moments with mom moose infront and baby moose behind me all of a sudden.
This would be perfect for a ski resort out West. No power loss from altitude, and easy access to power for charging/battery heating. Bonus is it's not noisy, which would turn off patrons seeking peace and quiet. If it had a quieter track drive it would be even more impressive. This would also be great for Yellowstone Park. Hard for tree huggers to complain about it.
Rear track drive could be a bonus on this. Incorporate the motor in the skid and drive the rear axle. You could have the same footprint with a shorter and lighter track.
WOWWWW!! Can't wait for you guys to get your hands on the Ekko model; I reallyyy wanna see what kind of "mountain things" that all-electric sled can do! With the benefit of 100% torque on command and no clutching and whatnot, def a game changer! My question; is there a battery cooling system onboard that you need to worry about? If so, how is the coolant ran? Traditionally along the tunnel just like an RMK or Summit or is it just a front-mounted intercooler?
From the limited Jam they gave me this thing has potential...in the trail sled platform and programming watch out. It would be more safe because of the linear power on it - not like clutching that ramps up.
Are these selling for $15,000.00? I'd hafta see more tests of climing power and distance travel remote charging how to store costs of battery replacement etc
Electric is the future. Look what the Alta Redshift did already in MX. I think electric sleds should take advantage of a radical chassis redesign, and yes better battery tech.
Hey, electric snowmobile?, electric elan would be awsome, remind that guy how much fun he had on it and to get the back on the market for trappers and fishermen. We need a small electric elan 🤙😂
Its enjoyable I wont lie -and the power it hammers out on the flats makes up for lack of sound. 2 stroke sound reminds you of the power. - the lack of sound and hitting 80 in a short distance can surprise you
I think this is a dead end, I think it could become something but it won’t beat fuel powered sleds. You can’t just take a cable up on the mountain and charge it. With fueled snowmobiles you can take a can of gas with you. I think a fueled sled is much more reliable than this. This is my point of wiew
yes i love electric. for now i think youre right because of the battery. until the battery gets better id still ride gas engines because it gets warm basically automatically without using power. alot less maintence with electric... but im still going to wait for the technology of batteries to improve first.
Well, wont be beating my Lynx Boondocker RE anytime soon, but for work, this looks really promising. Would b nice to have one of these to test for winter.. here in northern Lapland we still have proper winter;) Im curious on the battery life in say... -30 celsius? will it actually work for 4 hours in that temperature? as that would b the minimum...6h would b more preferable.
@@PowerModzOfficial They do work in wet snow lol, I've done tons of spring riding. The real question is, why did they bring a utility sled to a demo when all their hype is around the mountain model?
Be nice to see a test of this cold soaked at -30 pulling a loaded sleigh to see it's performance and range. Any option for a 20" wide track or 8" wide skis? Only sled I've heard that's quieter then an Arctic cat with a 660 4 stroke in it.
Would like to see it in some powder, but can't say I see anywhere near 180hp. My 07 summit has no issues in slush/water conditions, I would expect 180hp to walk on water effortlessly
Louie you seemed to Enjoy the Nomad. When they did the unveiling I do recall you saying it had a resemblance to the Rev platform and the Rep with you confirmed that today. Where is powermodz located. I am on the fence of starting my own shop in Cape Breton but need to touch base with the people who have built a business like yourself to inquire what mods do the consumer look for and the expectations out there of a shop similar to what your doing. Thanks guys
This is cool! But i could definitely see it being left accidentally on a problem. Since there is no idle sound I could see forgetting to kill it. The throttle could definitely be accidentally bumped by someone or a kid. Maybe they could put an optional beep in the settings menu, different than a reverse beep of course.
The real test will be if this can be repowered in the backcountry by some method and how it works in extreme cold conditions. Places like Alaska have a way of breaking things down. I doubt at the current time (no pun intended) that the battery doesnt last long in steep country.
First off, being a 154 its not going to turn real well. Second, the snow conditions don't help at all. I haven't ridden it, but even a RMK 155 isn't going to turn real well unless its layed over on its side. Its not about the handling, its a functional electric snowmobile. Thats whats important.
Please redo with great snow and show what corporate wants out of it! Extremely interested but I'm not wanting something I'm not going to make it to my cabin at 2800m
The Snow Looks very mushy/Wet? and the Sled looks a little bit Light on the Front end, maybe front of the track up, and the skis a little farther down, in these conditions? Quite other than the track noise!
“But it ain't snowmobiling if your coat doesn't smell like gas”
I think you mean two stroke but I get ya. Couldn’t agree more.
You copied my comment
gherbie111 it’s electric
Slade Doll Are you fucking slow or are you playing?
Exactly
As someone who spends a lot of time hunting and trapping, this would be awesome for hearing an animal and overall being more in tune with nature since it's so quiet. Love your videos, good to see salt of the earth guys out enjoying themselves.
Were you guys on the throttle at all?? It looked about as much fun as getting kicked in the nuts.
Exactly. Even with all the excuses of poor snow conditions, any modern sled can rip through that field at 75+ mph while smiling ear to ear.
Tester or something it was set to do like 80 max
Or 50 for the old measure of mph
dude. this is likely 1 of 2 functioning production prototypes they have. They need to use it for media, investors and just general testing. I'm sure you can jump on it and hang off the side while going full throttle on a curve and have fun with it.. but when a start up has limited funds and is trying to move in to production.. prototypes are precious.
@@StarkVandalez you could hear him say this one is set to do about 80 and it's in Canada so 50mph just like you said they can't trash the prototype
Now that is hilarious ! The head engineer of the Taiga is chompin at the bit to drive the elan.
Can you blame him? That's how you learn to make better products!
@@PowerModzOfficial Time To Retrofit The Elan ?? Once You Drive A Elan You Will Never Go Back !
@@roushsporthvacman7095 An electric elan would be amazing Im not going to lie....all id need would be about 20kms range in a day.
@@PowerModzOfficial A Monster Electric Elan Would Be So Cool, Hey Maybe You Could Consult For Taiga??? High Tech Meets Old School Sled Modder, For Starters "Reducing The Weight Of Those Sleds" And Then Mod The Hell Out Of It.... That's What You Do
I would like to see an electric version of a vintage Elan SS !
Um, RickyBobbyLouie, 'It ain't snowmobilin' unless you coat smells like batteries' just doesn't sound right. :-)
If it has power RBL likes it!
PowerModz Pin it to win it!!
@@coreypruka5501 Oh ya!
Great stuff ! The future of snowmobiling.
Awesome 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻 very excited to see where this company goes 🇨🇦!
Looking forward to this sled love the technology! I even filled out the info to become a dealer..
I’m excited about what the future holds for electric sleds. The Taiga is further along than I first realized. I would love owning and riding a sled that didn’t produce exhaust and greatly reduce the required amount of maintenance. I really like the idea of an electric sled!
Awesome snowmobile for crowded space and Coyote hunting and trapping awesome work guys
Exactly
Looks like it’s good for plowing snow that’s about it
Same as any other utility sled in those conditions - Id rather drive that than an expedition.
PowerModz any other sled would rip through that. Stop using that as your excuse. The sled sucks so face it. One o got form the 70s would drive better in that condition
@@haydenschneider3 I totally agree with you,that's a POS.
Frank Mc exactly
@@PowerModzOfficial it looked like it pushed really bad. My VK pushes in wet snow as well but not that bad. I’m thinking they didn’t have the skid set up correctly and it needs more ski pressure? The actual snowmachine part of the Taiga is what gives me the most concern. Making a good handling sled is not easy. I don’t have the impression that the folks a Taiga are super experienced with the chassis side as compared to the batteries and electronic side. I’d feel better if one of the big OEM’s partnered with them and you’d have an established dealer network and a chassis (like Polaris) you knew would ride and handle well. Starting at $15,000 is too big of a price for me to gamble on. I’m sold on the concept of an electric sled and am looking forward to watching how they progress along.
This is amazing technology that will only improve. 👍
why so careful with the throttle? kind of dissapointed. Wanted som performance-check!
It'll come - was limited.
I see the Taiga Nomad is running a Sportsman Snowmobile Rack. They should of set it up with electric ice auger holder and a battery chainsaw in the chainsaw holder. Full electric utility!
Very true !!
that sound is strange, I kind of prefer my ZRT 600 triple sound! :P But that said, good job to our guys from Québec! And it's only the beginning!
Pretty cool to see the two opposite ends of the technology scale, on one end the ol’Elan from back in 19 dickety 2 , and then this new age Electric angry pixy powered machine!
Honestly the elan looked more fun lol
tell that to my knees and back
PowerModz it’s not even bad. If you can’t handle that then snow mobility isn’t for you. You don’t know what’s bad until you ride one from the 60s or 70s.
@@haydenschneider3 but he did tho... they where litteraly talking about an Elan.
That's why I have one 😈🔥
Honestly, the Elan WAS the most fun snowmobile ever made 👍🤘
Good video and a great start to a new era in sledding
Wow. And we made fun of 4-strokes. This takes it to a whole new level.
Exactly my first thougt....4-are heavy, dont sound good! Now the 4-strokers also can make fun of something!haha
But I cant imagine a 4 stroke being heavier. Driving the sr viper is like driving a mountain
Look up the specs...🤦♂️
I think a diesel sled would be more accepted in the community
@@gryyta9617 lol 4 strokes sounds better than nothing
So cool the EV guys wanted to ride the Elan that they aren't douchey elitists just regular fun loving dudes
Of course - and we all learn from things...I ride that Nomad and think of the possibilities of an E Elan.
I’m not ready for this!
Totally has the rev look. I do like it’s looks. I’m still not sold but it’s something I’m excited and interested in.
Tiaga should add a bluetooth feature for radio, mp3 take advantage of the quiet. Couple speakers on the sled and in your helmet. I'd love the tunes loud and clear on the trail.
Be one selling point for me.
I had great hope for these, have considered buying the Echo..... Until watching this video! Reminds me of my grammas rascal....
Thanks for making the video!
Dont let that throw you off, these things have tons of power. Will be making another vid next season and unleashing the power. cheers and thanks for watching.
Boy that thing is prosperous, I could RIP alot of wieght off that thing.
Big future for this rig.
I think the mtn. Performance is very exciting.
Consultation from 30 years of mountain extreme riding free.
Cool Electric snowmobile. 😊👍
Hoping that eventually the snowmobile will have a quieter sound like the Tesla. The snowmobile sound is one of the most destructive environmental sounds in winter. It frightens animals and birds, it is horrible for the ears and is one of the most unpleasant sounds in existence. The rush people get from it is not the heavy rumble but rather the deadening quiet when you finally turn it off. Lousy for hearing later in life when you keep doing that over and over to your ears. Bravo to the electric- I am not suggesting total silence like the Tesla because that would be dangerous to the forest life.
Im.hoping tree hugging liberals will be more quite...
True gamechanger, can't wait to try it!
Please do!
the whole world is shutdown.....thats ok cuz we got powermodz videos to watch about cool awesome new sled tech
Thanks bud!
It's exciting to see where this technology goes, so quiet, won't spook the moose or deer. Can't wait to see the production models out ripping around
Won't spook the moose or dear from a distance. Now you will come around a corner right on top of said spooked Mack Truck, hopefully not with the limiter key on low.
Those r actually sick
That's kinda cool to see the elan with the tiga and how far snowmobiling has come. You can have just as much fun on both
Would be great for ice fishing or hunting
Bravo Trapper 250 is good for that
that elan looks fun asf,
Electric motors are far superior then combustion engines. Especially in winter. We just need better batteries and we will never look back. (Come at me trolls).
Braaaaaap is 80% the reason we ride and this has none of that
Speak for yourself.
Get over yourself, if you ride just for the sound your not a real rider.
meh, I ride them all, this thing has sound and speed, when you have little sound and a pile of wind noise you know you are going fast.
They should add a headphone jack and build in mp3 that you can upload your favorite sled sounds this don’t sound like a sled
Can totaly see myself on an electric snowmobile, but one problem, happens atleast once a year I am following a trail in forest and a huge moose is having a nap on the trail, standing up 15m infront of me. Need that noise or I will run into the moose for sure. Had some brown pants moments with mom moose infront and baby moose behind me all of a sudden.
Steak you may be on to something, I can tape a dogwhistle and drive really fast
How about just driving to a speed where you'll see a frickin MOOSE in time to stop? SMH
Steven Derkson its not speed issue, they can be sleeping in the old tracks snowed over, you dont see them until they move.
RMKs collect a lot of snow which adds more weight, these look like the shape would help shed a lot more snow.
Its pretty interesting how much of that "snowmobile sound" is the track and not the engine. It still kinda sounds like a snowmobile. Tracks are noisy.
This would be perfect for a ski resort out West. No power loss from altitude, and easy access to power for charging/battery heating. Bonus is it's not noisy, which would turn off patrons seeking peace and quiet. If it had a quieter track drive it would be even more impressive. This would also be great for Yellowstone Park. Hard for tree huggers to complain about it.
Rear track drive could be a bonus on this. Incorporate the motor in the skid and drive the rear axle. You could have the same footprint with a shorter and lighter track.
Багажник супер! При определенных условиях, возможно будут отдельные части тела, которые пришьют обратно в условиях специализированной клиники...
WOWWWW!! Can't wait for you guys to get your hands on the Ekko model; I reallyyy wanna see what kind of "mountain things" that all-electric sled can do! With the benefit of 100% torque on command and no clutching and whatnot, def a game changer!
My question; is there a battery cooling system onboard that you need to worry about? If so, how is the coolant ran? Traditionally along the tunnel just like an RMK or Summit or is it just a front-mounted intercooler?
Yes the batteries are temp controlled to keep them at optimum life expectancy and performance.
PowerModz did the tell you how they are cooled? Tunnel intercooler?
@@fricot_21 there is a tunnel cooler under it that I saw
a small one.
Waiting for the results from the butt dyno...
From the limited Jam they gave me this thing has potential...in the trail sled platform and programming watch out. It would be more safe because of the linear power on it - not like clutching that ramps up.
This is so cool! Quiet snowmobile!!!
Ive been waiting for this!!!!
So quiet, bring on the nuclear batteries for endless range, very interesting, definitely growth potential for certain applications.
Are these selling for $15,000.00? I'd hafta see more tests of climing power and distance travel remote charging how to store costs of battery replacement etc
Pretty damn cool, both of them!
I agree!
I just purchased my first battery powered chain saw. This is similar, it's strange without the noise.
Nice. I like Taiga's PWC .
I wonder if mbrp has a can in the works for it 🤔🤔🤔
I'm sure they'll figure out how to rob some power. They have been doing it for years on gas powered machines.
I like the look of the Tiaga! Too bad conditions weren't better, kinda made the sled look like a slug. Keep up the good work!
120-125 kw, is 163-169 hp, not 180hp as that dude said... Back to school :D
Ahhh. Yes, but no losses thru the clutches now. So your getting more power to the ground.
Electric is the future. Look what the Alta Redshift did already in MX. I think electric sleds should take advantage of a radical chassis redesign, and yes better battery tech.
This is the future wow!
I have a gas snowmobile I love it but this is a good idea for our word clen I like tham and thay are 180 hp .
Tyler Murphy the only thing I don’t believe is 180hp. It looks like 100.
Looks like it could need a bit wider skis.
I hope that wasn't full throttle!
CCP foreman I think it was😂
@@driveitbreakitfixit7496 thought I heard the guy say it makes the equivalent to 180hp or something like that 🤣
But how heavy is it
Hey, electric snowmobile?, electric elan would be awsome, remind that guy how much fun he had on it and to get the back on the market for trappers and fishermen. We need a small electric elan 🤙😂
EV sleds are gonna have to develop super quiet tracks and drives
Its enjoyable I wont lie -and the power it hammers out on the flats makes up for lack of sound. 2 stroke sound reminds you of the power. - the lack of sound and hitting 80 in a short distance can surprise you
I am guessing that there will be less maintenance and break downs .
Utility sled but no 20 inch track?
Was told by someone who tried it and they said it had roughly a 35 km in deep snow
Love to have one here in Minnesota for ice fishing, have a taller windshield?
Needs a better snow flap in the rear my jet sled would be full by the time I make it to the spot
Yes 100 percent
Have fun getting stuck... How would it be in the powder?
How long will I get with those? Idk man .. also lack of braap braap kills it for me.
I think this is a dead end, I think it could become something but it won’t beat fuel powered sleds. You can’t just take a cable up on the mountain and charge it. With fueled snowmobiles you can take a can of gas with you. I think a fueled sled is much more reliable than this. This is my point of wiew
yes i love electric. for now i think youre right because of the battery. until the battery gets better id still ride gas engines because it gets warm basically automatically without using power. alot less maintence with electric... but im still going to wait for the technology of batteries to improve first.
Well, wont be beating my Lynx Boondocker RE anytime soon, but for work, this looks really promising. Would b nice to have one of these to test for winter.. here in northern Lapland we still have proper winter;) Im curious on the battery life in say... -30 celsius? will it actually work for 4 hours in that temperature? as that would b the minimum...6h would b more preferable.
Love the vids man
thanks for watching!
Does that thing have any carbides on it? Seems like it takes a lot of room for it to turn.
It was a 154" track
Dude. Carbides in slush 😂
@@danielssonsgarage They aren't on a lake so it's not slush, calm down. It's wet snow, and yes carbides work in wet snow.
@@807tv5 No they dont, carbides work on hard pack and ice.
@@PowerModzOfficial They do work in wet snow lol, I've done tons of spring riding. The real question is, why did they bring a utility sled to a demo when all their hype is around the mountain model?
Be nice to see a test of this cold soaked at -30 pulling a loaded sleigh to see it's performance and range. Any option for a 20" wide track or 8" wide skis? Only sled I've heard that's quieter then an Arctic cat with a 660 4 stroke in it.
pretty soon people wont be wearing sled apparel with pistons and rods on them, instead it will dc motor windings and battery packs
@Fuck Joebiden agreed
Wtf was that in the begining? One ski on a snowgo?!?!
EXO Sled
Would like to see it in some powder, but can't say I see anywhere near 180hp.
My 07 summit has no issues in slush/water conditions, I would expect 180hp to walk on water effortlessly
Quite the machine
Way to go!
Everyone shitting on this sled are the same people that say “If It AiN’t A V8, tHeN i DoN’t WaNt It”
Not true.
Nice and quiet the folks wont miss the shitty noise from the icers : )
Louie you seemed to Enjoy the Nomad. When they did the unveiling I do recall you saying it had a resemblance to the Rev platform and the Rep with you confirmed that today. Where is powermodz located. I am on the fence of starting my own shop in Cape Breton but need to touch base with the people who have built a business like yourself to inquire what mods do the consumer look for and the expectations out there of a shop similar to what your doing. Thanks guys
Please contact Taiga on their website - we are in Ottawa area.
wow that braaaap noise i can hear it amazingly
I think the sled is nice but i hate these eco treehugging names
Dude, the name is as treehuggy as Lynx and the model designations sound about as edgy as every other modern day sled.
Ramen-Powered Shit Factory lynx is a badass cat that will rip apart u. Lynx is not a treehuggy name
Call it libtard
@@mikkejalonen9050 exactly
This is the most boring sled I have ever seen
Tittan1500 it’s the rider
@@bnclan3951 Ya, old geezer never been on a sled obviously
This is cool! But i could definitely see it being left accidentally on a problem. Since there is no idle sound I could see forgetting to kill it. The throttle could definitely be accidentally bumped by someone or a kid. Maybe they could put an optional beep in the settings menu, different than a reverse beep of course.
You can program it any way you want. It'll probably have an app
How does it keep the tunnel and track from freezing and jamming up with ice and snow?
OMG i cant wait for electric mountain sleds
The real test will be if this can be repowered in the backcountry by some method and how it works in extreme cold conditions. Places like Alaska have a way of breaking things down. I doubt at the current time (no pun intended) that the battery doesnt last long in steep country.
It does actually - it has a battery heater on it. They have sold many of these units to ski hills. Cheers
Ski hills and local areas arent the same as 40-50* below backcountry areas in the bush.
I'm falling love
They need to make a 4 wheeler and a side by side
need to come to Alberta we got lots snow still ....cheers
Hope to see you try out the EKKO soon :)
Cool cool cool!!!! Way to go guys!
Sure would be nice if you could tell how quiet it is, but the near constant wind noise in the audio makes that hard.
Yes -- very windy day. We dont have the big money for top of the line equipment...but trying to improve.
Handles like a brick
Bjørn E Paulsen it basically is lol. A brick of batteries.
That's the snow iv seen it run just fine on good snow
First off, being a 154 its not going to turn real well. Second, the snow conditions don't help at all. I haven't ridden it, but even a RMK 155 isn't going to turn real well unless its layed over on its side.
Its not about the handling, its a functional electric snowmobile. Thats whats important.
@@Racer57 Exactly - my rmk was a piece of garbage in the same conditions.
Love the idea but recharge will not be available in the middle of the woods.
Seems like very skinny skis for a utility sled
Yes wrong skis.
Long way for improvement
Not that far
Please redo with great snow and show what corporate wants out of it!
Extremely interested but I'm not wanting something I'm not going to make it to my cabin at 2800m
I agree
The Snow Looks very mushy/Wet? and the Sled looks a little bit Light on the Front end, maybe front of the track up, and the skis a little farther down, in these conditions? Quite other than the track noise!
You nailed it Dave, no one else picked up on that...I think that's the first time it rode in those conditions...horrible conditions.