also he actually knows how strong the characters are unlike godzilla guy who just looks at them and decides who's stronger based on some arbitrary bullshit
I like the differences in both of their runs: for Legendary it was just easy and annoying up until Monster X and Keizer, but for Final Wars it was a battle for his life.
This guy makes Godzilla Guy look like a newborn baby barely growing in his front teeth. Great video, my man. Thank you for putting respect on these amazing kaiju. You DEFINITELY have my respect.
I really like you telling the story instead of just the fights. While some things are debatable (like FW not killing the Hokmuto at their first encounter) but otherwise this series is amazing!
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@@citrusreality64 yeah like did he forget that this Godzilla tanked a friggin meteor without a scratch?? Then proceeded to yeet keiser ghidorah into the stratosphere and delete him!
The Final Wars theater guide states Final Wars Godzilla has a regeneration factor. As Toho has basically made every Godzilla they made have a regen factor. Just the speed and effectiveness is different with each one.
if he was trying to get stronger. Wouldn't evolution (through the large amount of energy absorbed) be able to make it invulnerable to freezing temperatures? I'm not sure, but if you think about it, Heise Godzilla's atomic breath was 500,000 degrees Celsius, since then no Godzilla created by Toho has had information about the temperature of his own beam. So maybe Final Wars Godzilla's atomic breath also has this same temperature. Also remembering that the legendary Godzilla's atomic breath reaches 20,000 degrees Celsius.
Subbed just now great work I like how, compared to mv, final wars seems like a maniac. Mothra really put in work and had to be his TRANSLATOR in all things that didn't deal with killing for crying out loud, i loved this video.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Yeah, but can you explain to me How fast FW is?? I know he is fast but is he faster than Evolved (around 700mph and Heisei (600mph)?
@@Kyd0rlander Well, recently Heisei's speed got a update. The lowball is at 80-100mph Midball is over 230mph And highballed he can get to 668,7mph. But i don't really think the 668,7 is that consistent but for now we can still use this feat. But the 230mph is definitely safer.
If it came down to it, I could indeed see Mothra granting him another boost. Maybe even without dying at all since her power seemed to amp heavily from KotM so it's indeed possible for him to still net a win, albeit barely since Shimo's ice power would still be able to keep his heat under control at all times which is a serious problem. Godzilla would absolutely NEED Kong's help here. Best you can really hope for is for FW Goji to piss Shimo off enough to get her full attention whilst Kong works on ridding Skar King of his control stone. Suko runs on in with his axe, breaks it, and Shimo's freed. The interesting part comes in after this; in the original film, MV Goji scared the piss out of Shimo enough to make her realize she better play nice by them and kill Skar King. FW Goji's barely holding on by the end of this bout so now the real question comes in; would Shimo simply try to take Alpha Titan status and fuck over everyone? Would Kong be intimidating enough to keep Shimo under control? Perhaps the only real hero in this story is, ironically, Mothra; being able to blast MV Goji on his ass with so much ease definitely means she's amped quite a bit. Then again, Shimo seemed pretty gung-ho about following Kong and becoming HIS bitch after the death of Skar King so perhaps FW Goji gets lucky and she won't get a big head, simply freezing Skar King and giving Kong the W. Man, you've really helped humble me on FW Goji as a whole; I was one of those people who put him on this pedestal quite often and it was pretty easy to do since the movie made him seem unstoppable. But if one uses their head, is a tank 'unstoppable' if it just rushes through and crushes a bunch of smaller vehicles? Hell no, because as soon as something bigger hits it, it's gone. FW Goji's just a lucky bastard that he's got speed on his side or else there's so, SO many moments where he would've absolutely died.
I know the line of thought behind this version of fw scaling to struggle, and yeah at the level you have him at he would. I just personally use the fact that the human race viewed fw godzilla as a greater threat to them than a literal planet coming at them at high speeds. Since this is similar to the godzilla vs mothra heisei film feat, I would put this base final wars Godzilla at dwarf star levels with the things said before. This would probably give him similar ap to legendary in his base form, and since he does get stronger mid fight as seen from the monster x fight, I would personally say he clears easier than you said he would. With his speed really not changing no matter what you do, but the ap makes this hole thing. Also, I think he does have some level of adaptation, since when he got hit by monster x beam the first time it put him on his knees, but the next time he was fine, so he might be able to deal with the ice attacks, but that's a little Iffy. All in all, I just put fw at slightly higher in power than you do, but the same speed. Great video as always
FW's hypothetical Gorath feat calculates at the baseline of large planet level, the reason why Battra's feat is dwarf-small star is because he could vaporize that rock with such ease ZERO damage comes to Earth. Also, Monsterverse Godzilla reaches such levels easier and doesn't have to rely on a hypothetical to get there. FW's only got planet busting statements and scaling off that legitimately and maybe scales to Keizer's "cosmic" power. If we were to also pit their high ends, that favors the MV pretty strongly. He does grow stronger, but he was beaten by being trapped in regular ice. Absolute Zero beam attacks?
@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 yeah that makes sense. But, I will say that I think that increase in power he gains will be...easier to take advantage of here? Let me explain, just like how he basically was getting tossed around by monster x, but got stronger. In the mv he would be so much faster that he could progressively get stronger while not taking as much damage. He got faster and stronger during the fight against monster x who was actually stronger than him in every way, so I don't see why he wouldn't be able to do the same but even better because he is so much faster. So that goratg feat would be for base line fw that hasn't gotten stronger from fighting against monster x. Like how you highlighted, speed would grant him the ability to get stronger safer. Yes mv kaiju have similar ap to keiser, they are just a hell of a lot slower. So how I take it, he would be able to get stronger while using his large speed advantage to basically ware everyone down until he matches them in power as well as speed. The only reason he couldn't do this against keiser was keiser was faster than him and didn't give him the chance to get stronger over time. Does that make any sense? Sorry if it sounded strange.
Not bad and I liked it but some of the feats are off and there are some controversial topics that I am kinda afraid to talk about such as the evolved goji vs thermo goji debate around the end and which would be stronger against shimo but overall a nice vid 👍
I think final wars might be able to beat shimo as hes been frozen before, and if skar king is controlling him again, i think hes smart enough to break the crystal, and he probably would be able to beat the mutos as he fought rodan, and zilla, and took on 3 monsters (most being more powerful than male muto). However, i think legendary godzilla beats fw godzilla. Also how did you get the godzilla vs gigan footage?
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812by calcs i made shimo can endure 866 ronnatons and just flinch (dwarf star level feat) Heavenly amp godzilla atomic breath could be 2700 ronnatons because he one shot kaizer ghidora that by statemants he was "a treath to earth existence" so his anti gravity beams can be calc to 270 ronn that i believe he could endure and heavenly amp goji one shot him and if that is not enough he have his spiral heat ray that could possibly be 5 times stronger than the ab (if we say that the difference in power are the same as the heisei era, im not saying that gfw have a beam has strong has heisei but that the diference in power beetwen ab and shr is 5 times,i wanted to leave that clear) also shimo could possibly freeze godzilla but that would'nt kill him so the battle is a 50/50, fw goes all out to shimo and kill him (this is in character lol), or shimo freeze godzilla and hopes to never be defrozen. Love your content man ;)
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 also there is a possibilty that fw amp could intercept shimo beam because he blasted a kaizer ghidora head that could intercept gfw beam after it was shot and i belive that fw beam is light speed because has i know he is 54 goji that was stated that the ab was "a beam of light" and i think most of millenium godzillas have light speed ab Also i believe that amp gfw was "kaizer godzilla" it sounds cool to me
I feel powered up final goji would be unable to permanently take down ghidorah. Defeat and seemingly kill ya but not permanently down him. Kinda like a minus one situation where ghidorah is slowly regenerating offscreen to fight another day. Ghidorah is the type of monster you need to incinerate every last cell to put down for good.
@@discordxibalba4599 look at the movie, notice how that middle head was still alive even without the rest of the body? Shows there’s something special about it, plus in the novels it states without the middle head, mz could no longer regenerate
Great video as always, like the mix of scaling and story. Also who’d win in a fight? Keizer kg or Mv kg? In my opinion Keizer could probably win although I’d like to hear your opinion on it.
I would probably argue he’d already sense the presence of Shimo and Skar king way earlier and if he enters the hollow earth at anytime, that would be his goal. Also I believe he would just kill Kong in the ocean fight, or intend on killing rather than playing around with him for pretty much no reason.
do you think fw might realize that mothra's death =s enough power to actually fight shimo, so he'll just end up killing mothra instead for the greater good? lol i mean i see him very capable of doing so
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 also what are your thoughts on the new director for the next mv movie? I saw his movie ratings and they are very good, and he seems to be an emotional dark tone guy.
I don't think Shimo being stunned by those lightning things should be taken too seriously. Considering Godzilla was stunned by missles and stuff at some points.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Yeah but I think when shits gets serious she would be able to ignore all of that considering how Godzilla wasn’t getting knocked away by Kong’s punch at the end of GvK unlike previously in the movie. It also might be due to Skar.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812mentally immature could honestly just be the history of abuse she’s faced, she behaves like a mentally ill animal with the scar king, and a sorta normal animal with kong.
Unrelated but, i was debating in a community post that rank different Godzillas and i put heisei 1st and earth 2nd since they are the strongest in the 4 options. So anyways i was debating with someone about heisei and earth, i did win since i just brought up power scaling and he stop responding to me and one dude literally just ignored what i said and just says « earth beats burning cry about it »
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 yet when i gold him to read my comments he just said that i wasted my time cuz those « aren’t true » *i’m still waiting for him to give me proof*
uhhh monarch legacy of monsters is canon the director or author confirmed that its canon to mv, I also agree on this bc timat a comic kaiju was in gxk the new empire so that's enough proof that comic kaiju etc and MLOM is canon.
What does Tiamat appearing in gxk have to do with MLOM being canon? The show staff said MLOM is an independent story and it’s separate from the monsterverse
@@Foc_heisei uhh staff is nothing the director/ author confirmed MLOM being canon, also it makes no sense for MLOM not being canon. the main reason is in MLOM we have godzilla and kong, which is from mv so how dose it make non canon to mv? it fr makes no sense.
@@KaijuGameplayTv6592 what does Godzilla and Kong being in MLOM have to do with it being canon lol? And you haven’t answered my previous question MLOM also contradicts with 2014 and KOTM
@@Foc_heisei by tiamat being canon i meant that bc she is a comic kaiju, and people didn't think comics are canon to mv but they are. also people consider MLOM being soft canon, bc there was no muto prime also are you dumb? i said ''director/ author confirmed MLOM being canon'' and you ignored that, ''what does Godzilla and Kong being in MLOM have to do with it being canon lol?'' uhh bc godzilla looks like mv goji same with kong, what is this dumb question are you stupid? and you haven’t answered my previous question ''also it makes no sense for MLOM not being canon'' and ''which is from mv so how dose it make non canon to mv? it fr makes no sense.''
@@KaijuGameplayTv6592Tiamat is irrelevant here Stated where? Calling me dumb when you haven’t gave a source and yapped irrelevant shit is crazy The show staff also stated that MLOM is a and independent story and is separate to the monsterverse Godzilla and Kong being in MLOM doesn’t mean anything,by your logic the dc crossover is canon because Godzilla and Kong are in the comic MLOM makes sense for it being non canon since it contradicts the films and doesn’t mention anything about aftershock and awakening
I mean, didn’t he kinda… sorta… technically ally himself with fw mothra? I obviously haven’t seen fw (pretty young), but considering mv mothra has a history for millions of years being Godzilla’s ally, she may have some, experience.😊
Hey gkotm, i have something that i dont really accept because i try to make it fit and didnt work, its about kotm ghidora being at the same level as shimo and it just makes things like kotm base godzilla 10× stronger than evo godzilla because evo godzilla after his 10× times boost in power he was at the same level as shimo and, and i dont take that "x was stronger before" because if he doesnt show feats to reforce that then its wrong like heisei gamera>showa when showa is large planetary and heisei roughly multicontinental
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 alright, my explanetion of why ghidora is not equal to shimo i can recognise is complicated and possibly wrong so i have something simplier to prove that shimo is more powerful than ghidora, also this comment will not have words to hurt you or others, just to clarify my point If wee say that ghidora is equal to shimo then ghidora (base) should be at the 866 ronnatons ranges or potency to destroy dwarf stars Godzilla kotm was relative to a weaken ghidora so lets say he is equal to a 50% ghidora making him have a potency of 433 ronnatons In gvk, i dont remember if it was in a novel or guide but it was stated that gvk godzilla was close to full power or kotm level In gxk godzilla was supercharged so if that is not evidence that he is at 100% then he is an atom close to full power Evolved makes this godzilla 2 times stronger so evo godzilla should be at the same level of a 100% ghidora (base) Now, supercharged godzilla evolved is a 10 times multiplier to normal evo and shimo was comparable to him so in that case Shimo is 10 times stronger than base 100% ghidora If we use amp ghidora the gap in power is that ghidora is almost 3 times stronger than shimo so, in a weird way, amp ghidora vs shimo is a closer fight than base ghidora to shimo, also i will delete my other explanation because i think this is like an update to that so it would be better to delete it, still watch your content and i get entertained by it, keep the good work ;) , to clarify this comment is not to harm you or others is just my opinion
@kingkaijuboygodjira3116 oh yeah I'm currently debating you on why shin gets eviscerated(literally) by mv goji....and you say otherwise. Dinomania post btw
He stops at Shimo and ghidorah. Period lol. I’d say monsterverse Godzilla’s spiral ray is most comparable to final war’s and mv’s spiral ray did basically nothing to Shimo apart from stun her slightly and take her focus off kong… But there was no visible damage done. Shimo is easily the second most durable kaiju in the monsterverse next to Godzilla.
MV godzilla : hey final wars final wars godzilla : yo MV wassup MV godzilla : hey i have a mission for you final wars godzilla : yeah what is it? MV godzilla : can you fight the ennemies of my universe pls final wars godzilla : hmm 🤔 yeah sure👍🏾😁 MV : thank you🥹 final wars godzilla : np👍🏾
La verdad eso seria algo posible, cuando mato a kaizer ghidora iva directo a matar a los humanos que lo ayudaron a ganar, (aunque el tambien reconose que mothra fw es aliada asique nose)
No, Ghidorah's still the strongest. Shimo has zero statements of such, feats of such, and only people freaking out that she MIGHT be stronger than Ghidorah-but that doesn't mean much.
@@freezer-monkey She froze him, but official info has Godzilla dealing burn marks to Ghidorah right before he was frozen. Shimo deals frost bite damage, not scorches. And we've been told officially Godzilla's the one who knocked him into the sea. So the most you get from that is Shimo + Godzilla > Ghidorah
Kong being physically stronger than Godzilla feels kinda wierd, even if it is a diferent godzilla Also are you sure Ghosorah was weaekened in antarctica cause I saw the quote and to me it read ghidorah was amping himself not regaining his strength
Does it feel weird that king kong outright killed Godzilla in the original, before being retconned? The scrapped sequel to kk vs g was going to have a scene of Godzilla’s corpse being lifted from the water and placed in an amusement park, it felt kinda weird at first when I learned this, considering what’s happened till now.
FW would not beat shinomura.Shinomura has a death swarm where there are pieces of him floating around and final wars wouldn't hit them bucko so shinomura would eventuall win.
I feel like you kinda nerfed fw goji here cause he would of more than likely killed the mutos instantly and his atomic breath should have made killing mz easier since as you said it burned cells, and he isn’t like legendary goji though cause didnt he overpower mx while he was tired
Legendary could also kill cells and Ghidorah ate his attacks just fine. The Mutos have the strength to stab into MV and tango with him physically. They should surpass FW in brute force before he increases his ability.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812what I meant with the mutos is that he would have kill hokmuto immediately in their first encounter, would he not, plus the mutos were fighting a younger goji who was nowhere near the durability of final goji so they shouldn’t really be able to really do much?
@@Funnyman-animatornh2vothe really it's stated that the muto cuts in to godzilla skin bones deep their attacks would hurt final wars ofc this would scale to mutos ap and dura the mutos can survive multiple beams from fw until fw gets extremely weakened and the mutos just retreats that's it it's just a durability difference
@@MutolatorGTOfem and male muto at best are country level, muto prime is phisicaly continental level and by his powers he his multicontinental Low ball fw is moon level+ Not even close
Yea tbh youre kind of shitballing monsterverses speed and scaling theres stuff that gets kong to 27x times the sol in his base half power state and for some reason? You disregard the solar mv scaling while getting fw to star level through ultraman statements? Or did you lowball just for content
Mv gojis atomic breath is only 20K degrees Celsius while FWS atomic breath is 1.2M degrees Celsius. Explain how is that weaker? Do you even go over the statements of FWS goji? Forget the feats go over the statements of the two first.
@@aperschmoo sure but based off the statements everyone else has found of FWS goji, I’m more convinced FWS solos mv goji. Not a FWS fanboy but… FWS one taps the verse. Tbh:/
@@kingkaijuboygodjira3116 Lotta statements for FW have either death of the author fallacy or come from sources that aren’t official. But the statements that are official make FW around the range of MV. Make sure to always check your sources
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I love how you tell an actual story instead of going through a roster like godzilla guy. It really shows to me the effort you put into your videos
also he actually knows how strong the characters are unlike godzilla guy who just looks at them and decides who's stronger based on some arbitrary bullshit
2 comments here are absolute facts.
@@teddyrichard1488yeah but Godzilla guy is a decent human, unlike this manchild.
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I like the differences in both of their runs: for Legendary it was just easy and annoying up until Monster X and Keizer, but for Final Wars it was a battle for his life.
This guy makes Godzilla Guy look like a newborn baby barely growing in his front teeth. Great video, my man. Thank you for putting respect on these amazing kaiju. You DEFINITELY have my respect.
Thank you my friend
I like how these videos are structured hope we see more of em!
That being said great work as always 👍
Thanks a lot.
Great analysis. I really like the blend of scaling with a narrative, its a neat combination
Fearsome final wars has evolved
I’d say he could, but it’ll be decently hard due to him actually having non fodder kaiju to fight.
I really like you telling the story instead of just the fights. While some things are debatable (like FW not killing the Hokmuto at their first encounter) but otherwise this series is amazing!
Amazing video! Also Heisei sipping tea as he casually watches both of them struggle to beat their verses
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FW Godzilla would kill the male MUTO in Honolulu.
I agree with you
Yeah I feel like this guy’s really underselling fw goji there. I just don’t see him struggling with the mutos
Yeah
@Jonah0826 yeah and also he says that he's not as strong as kong and not as durable as some mv kaiju but I disagree
@@citrusreality64 yeah like did he forget that this Godzilla tanked a friggin meteor without a scratch?? Then proceeded to yeet keiser ghidorah into the stratosphere and delete him!
The Final Wars theater guide states Final Wars Godzilla has a regeneration factor. As Toho has basically made every Godzilla they made have a regen factor. Just the speed and effectiveness is different with each one.
He shows the ability to heal blasted off skin in the film.
Pretty interesting, personally think some fights would end faster or have closer outcomes but the story telling aspect are pretty entertaining
Makes sense
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Theres actually one thing I wonder tho,how would he fair with the heavenly amp?
@@tposeinggojirainshoes4650he would beat everyone easier besides shimo as he still has cold temp weakness
FWGoji was my second favorite Gojira designs
"High complex outer" sounds like something i would made up
if he was trying to get stronger. Wouldn't evolution (through the large amount of energy absorbed) be able to make it invulnerable to freezing temperatures?
I'm not sure, but if you think about it, Heise Godzilla's atomic breath was 500,000 degrees Celsius, since then no Godzilla created by Toho has had information about the temperature of his own beam. So maybe Final Wars Godzilla's atomic breath also has this same temperature. Also remembering that the legendary Godzilla's atomic breath reaches 20,000 degrees Celsius.
Subbed just now great work
I like how, compared to mv, final wars seems like a maniac. Mothra really put in work and had to be his TRANSLATOR in all things that didn't deal with killing for crying out loud, i loved this video.
Hey FW may be aggressive, but he also is kind of smart so I think the ending and Kong murder scar King is more likely
FW Godzilla dont get enough love man. Dude literally goes full doom slayer in his movie and is almost as big yet far more nimble than MV Godzilla
After New Empire I really disagree with him being more nimble.
Definitely not more nimble.
MV Goji is just casually doing side flips in zero gravity and jumping everywhere like he's super Mario 💀
I'd say he only would survive if he had powerups, without them i don't think he would survive especially with Ghidorah and Shimo.
I agree, but with access to stuff like Hollow Earth, he could get WAY stronger
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Yeah, but can you explain to me How fast FW is?? I know he is fast but is he faster than Evolved (around 700mph and Heisei (600mph)?
@@ulissesnene1325FW is only about 90mph
@@ulissesnene1325 heisei is 62 mph smh
@@Kyd0rlander Well, recently Heisei's speed got a update. The lowball is at 80-100mph
Midball is over 230mph
And highballed he can get to 668,7mph. But i don't really think the 668,7 is that consistent but for now we can still use this feat. But the 230mph is definitely safer.
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Hell yeah he could.
If it came down to it, I could indeed see Mothra granting him another boost. Maybe even without dying at all since her power seemed to amp heavily from KotM so it's indeed possible for him to still net a win, albeit barely since Shimo's ice power would still be able to keep his heat under control at all times which is a serious problem. Godzilla would absolutely NEED Kong's help here.
Best you can really hope for is for FW Goji to piss Shimo off enough to get her full attention whilst Kong works on ridding Skar King of his control stone. Suko runs on in with his axe, breaks it, and Shimo's freed. The interesting part comes in after this; in the original film, MV Goji scared the piss out of Shimo enough to make her realize she better play nice by them and kill Skar King.
FW Goji's barely holding on by the end of this bout so now the real question comes in; would Shimo simply try to take Alpha Titan status and fuck over everyone? Would Kong be intimidating enough to keep Shimo under control? Perhaps the only real hero in this story is, ironically, Mothra; being able to blast MV Goji on his ass with so much ease definitely means she's amped quite a bit.
Then again, Shimo seemed pretty gung-ho about following Kong and becoming HIS bitch after the death of Skar King so perhaps FW Goji gets lucky and she won't get a big head, simply freezing Skar King and giving Kong the W.
Man, you've really helped humble me on FW Goji as a whole; I was one of those people who put him on this pedestal quite often and it was pretty easy to do since the movie made him seem unstoppable. But if one uses their head, is a tank 'unstoppable' if it just rushes through and crushes a bunch of smaller vehicles? Hell no, because as soon as something bigger hits it, it's gone.
FW Goji's just a lucky bastard that he's got speed on his side or else there's so, SO many moments where he would've absolutely died.
Yep. Speed was key in this scenario.
Idk man Shimo is stated to be really comfortable around Kong so she probably won’t take alpha.
Evolved final wars goji would actually be insane
Cant believe Plokute thinks Fw Zilla can beat Burning Goji 1995 💀
Who?
@@BRproductions6173The biggest final wars fanboy to exist.
@@MinimalFlea5 dang
That plokute guy really thinks that Fw gigan beats space💀
Definitely rage bait from him
another great video
I was making my own video on this. If you ever see it just know I wasn’t copying. (Great vid btw)
I know the line of thought behind this version of fw scaling to struggle, and yeah at the level you have him at he would.
I just personally use the fact that the human race viewed fw godzilla as a greater threat to them than a literal planet coming at them at high speeds. Since this is similar to the godzilla vs mothra heisei film feat, I would put this base final wars Godzilla at dwarf star levels with the things said before.
This would probably give him similar ap to legendary in his base form, and since he does get stronger mid fight as seen from the monster x fight, I would personally say he clears easier than you said he would. With his speed really not changing no matter what you do, but the ap makes this hole thing.
Also, I think he does have some level of adaptation, since when he got hit by monster x beam the first time it put him on his knees, but the next time he was fine, so he might be able to deal with the ice attacks, but that's a little Iffy.
All in all, I just put fw at slightly higher in power than you do, but the same speed. Great video as always
FW's hypothetical Gorath feat calculates at the baseline of large planet level, the reason why Battra's feat is dwarf-small star is because he could vaporize that rock with such ease ZERO damage comes to Earth.
Also, Monsterverse Godzilla reaches such levels easier and doesn't have to rely on a hypothetical to get there. FW's only got planet busting statements and scaling off that legitimately and maybe scales to Keizer's "cosmic" power. If we were to also pit their high ends, that favors the MV pretty strongly.
He does grow stronger, but he was beaten by being trapped in regular ice. Absolute Zero beam attacks?
@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 yeah that makes sense. But, I will say that I think that increase in power he gains will be...easier to take advantage of here?
Let me explain, just like how he basically was getting tossed around by monster x, but got stronger. In the mv he would be so much faster that he could progressively get stronger while not taking as much damage.
He got faster and stronger during the fight against monster x who was actually stronger than him in every way, so I don't see why he wouldn't be able to do the same but even better because he is so much faster.
So that goratg feat would be for base line fw that hasn't gotten stronger from fighting against monster x. Like how you highlighted, speed would grant him the ability to get stronger safer. Yes mv kaiju have similar ap to keiser, they are just a hell of a lot slower.
So how I take it, he would be able to get stronger while using his large speed advantage to basically ware everyone down until he matches them in power as well as speed.
The only reason he couldn't do this against keiser was keiser was faster than him and didn't give him the chance to get stronger over time.
Does that make any sense? Sorry if it sounded strange.
Considering MV earth is hollow, would that be considered to be moon level due to MV Earth losing majority of it's weight.
@@robotwithnoname7677 huh... interesting... never thought about it like that. It is losing...a decent bit...
@@robotwithnoname7677 MV makes up for it with absurdly high density and gravity
I like to think that if Final Wars Godzilla Evolves like Legendary Godzilla, He looks like his Concept Art but with Pink Atomic Breath
Not bad and I liked it but some of the feats are off and there are some controversial topics that I am kinda afraid to talk about such as the evolved goji vs thermo goji debate around the end and which would be stronger against shimo but overall a nice vid 👍
Who would win?
Writhing mass of unrelenting hatred with a laser
Or
Ice puppy
I dunno man I think the dog got this
If final wars keeps distracting shimo long enough i have full confidence in saying kong would eventually snap skar king's neck kratos style
I think final wars might be able to beat shimo as hes been frozen before, and if skar king is controlling him again, i think hes smart enough to break the crystal, and he probably would be able to beat the mutos as he fought rodan, and zilla, and took on 3 monsters (most being more powerful than male muto). However, i think legendary godzilla beats fw godzilla. Also how did you get the godzilla vs gigan footage?
I had it downloaded when rickdasquirrel put it up
And I dunno, I don't see how FW beats Shimo who is his hard counter
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812by calcs i made shimo can endure 866 ronnatons and just flinch (dwarf star level feat)
Heavenly amp godzilla atomic breath could be 2700 ronnatons because he one shot kaizer ghidora that by statemants he was "a treath to earth existence" so his anti gravity beams can be calc to 270 ronn that i believe he could endure and heavenly amp goji one shot him and if that is not enough he have his spiral heat ray that could possibly be 5 times stronger than the ab (if we say that the difference in power are the same as the heisei era, im not saying that gfw have a beam has strong has heisei but that the diference in power beetwen ab and shr is 5 times,i wanted to leave that clear) also shimo could possibly freeze godzilla but that would'nt kill him so the battle is a 50/50, fw goes all out to shimo and kill him (this is in character lol), or shimo freeze godzilla and hopes to never be defrozen.
Love your content man ;)
@@EmilianoCharlo-xp2ny It might though. He's weak to the cold. Let alone absolute zero.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 also there is a possibilty that fw amp could intercept shimo beam because he blasted a kaizer ghidora head that could intercept gfw beam after it was shot and i belive that fw beam is light speed because has i know he is 54 goji that was stated that the ab was "a beam of light" and i think most of millenium godzillas have light speed ab
Also i believe that amp gfw was "kaizer godzilla" it sounds cool to me
I wonder if final wars might start to like humans because they are helping him
The true question is...
Could the monsterverse survive to Final wars?
literally this video came out after the other MV video Godzilla vs Final wars verse
MV Godzilla low diffs
He stops and loses at Keizer ghidroah
I feel powered up final goji would be unable to permanently take down ghidorah. Defeat and seemingly kill ya but not permanently down him. Kinda like a minus one situation where ghidorah is slowly regenerating offscreen to fight another day. Ghidorah is the type of monster you need to incinerate every last cell to put down for good.
Not really, you need to destroy the middle head. That’s for some reason how he regenerates.
@@SpaceGodzilla-xb7vk really? How do you know? Is there a source where that came from?
@@discordxibalba4599 look at the movie, notice how that middle head was still alive even without the rest of the body? Shows there’s something special about it, plus in the novels it states without the middle head, mz could no longer regenerate
@SpaceGodzilla-xb7vk movie not much evidence on that but novelization I'll take your word on that one.
@@discordxibalba4599 aight bet good day
Great video as always, like the mix of scaling and story. Also who’d win in a fight? Keizer kg or Mv kg? In my opinion Keizer could probably win although I’d like to hear your opinion on it.
Money on Keizer could go either way though
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 well, my top 2 favorite Godzillas are kinda fodder but at least my third favorite negs the monsterverse.
I would probably argue he’d already sense the presence of Shimo and Skar king way earlier and if he enters the hollow earth at anytime, that would be his goal. Also I believe he would just kill Kong in the ocean fight, or intend on killing rather than playing around with him for pretty much no reason.
I'm not sure how far his senses go, but that could be a point. I think they'd manage to distract him long enough to escape.
do you think fw might realize that mothra's death =s enough power to actually fight shimo, so he'll just end up killing mothra instead for the greater good? lol i mean i see him very capable of doing so
Possibly, though Shimo would be on him like ugly in an MCU movie so he probably wouldn't get the chance.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 also what are your thoughts on the new director for the next mv movie? I saw his movie ratings and they are very good, and he seems to be an emotional dark tone guy.
@@jaguarthekingofsouthameric7427 I'm optimistic
I was literally just thinking of this while watching the gxk part of this video lol
4:36 Love how this was said in the video after showing a clip of final wars jumping hundreds of feet in the air, dodging both king ceaser and rodan
truly amazing
Where is that ghidorah rival relationship scan from?
Off topic, but do you scale Ark or halo? If so who would win? King Titan vs Heisei Gamera? Master Chief vs Shin?
Probably King Titan. Don't scale Halo.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 You just made a certain WIS editor very happy by saying that.
I don't think Shimo being stunned by those lightning things should be taken too seriously. Considering Godzilla was stunned by missles and stuff at some points.
I take it as her being easily distracted. Since she's canonically kinda stupid or "mentally immature" I think it's valid
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Yeah but I think when shits gets serious she would be able to ignore all of that considering how Godzilla wasn’t getting knocked away by Kong’s punch at the end of GvK unlike previously in the movie.
It also might be due to Skar.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812mentally immature could honestly just be the history of abuse she’s faced, she behaves like a mentally ill animal with the scar king, and a sorta normal animal with kong.
Unrelated but, i was debating in a community post that rank different Godzillas and i put heisei 1st and earth 2nd since they are the strongest in the 4 options. So anyways i was debating with someone about heisei and earth, i did win since i just brought up power scaling and he stop responding to me and one dude literally just ignored what i said and just says « earth beats burning cry about it »
Yep. We call that cope.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 yet when i gold him to read my comments he just said that i wasted my time cuz those « aren’t true » *i’m still waiting for him to give me proof*
Possibly
Please do a what if mv Godzilla and fw godzilla was in the same universe part 1 and 2
How do you feel about Godzilla Guy saying : UhM aCtUaLlY Shinumoura is the strongest because rEgEnErAtIon
blud has beef with godzilla guy lol
0:18 well others did it but you did it better and accurately.
Imagine he sees Shimo's stronger than him and just pulls out Keizer mode WHILE in his Evolved state
Problem is he can't turn Keizer by himself. Needs a lotta energy.
W video
uhhh monarch legacy of monsters is canon the director or author confirmed that its canon to mv, I also agree on this bc timat a comic kaiju was in gxk the new empire so that's enough proof that comic kaiju etc and MLOM is canon.
What does Tiamat appearing in gxk have to do with MLOM being canon? The show staff said MLOM is an independent story and it’s separate from the monsterverse
@@Foc_heisei uhh staff is nothing the director/ author confirmed MLOM being canon, also it makes no sense for MLOM not being canon. the main reason is in MLOM we have godzilla and kong, which is from mv so how dose it make non canon to mv? it fr makes no sense.
@@KaijuGameplayTv6592 what does Godzilla and Kong being in MLOM have to do with it being canon lol? And you haven’t answered my previous question
MLOM also contradicts with 2014 and KOTM
@@Foc_heisei by tiamat being canon i meant that bc she is a comic kaiju, and people didn't think comics are canon to mv but they are. also people consider MLOM being soft canon, bc there was no muto prime also are you dumb? i said ''director/ author confirmed MLOM being canon'' and you ignored that, ''what does Godzilla and Kong being in MLOM have to do with it being canon lol?'' uhh bc godzilla looks like mv goji same with kong, what is this dumb question are you stupid? and you haven’t answered my previous question ''also it makes no sense for MLOM not being canon'' and ''which is from mv so how dose it make non canon to mv? it fr makes no sense.''
@@KaijuGameplayTv6592Tiamat is irrelevant here
Stated where? Calling me dumb when you haven’t gave a source and yapped irrelevant shit is crazy
The show staff also stated that MLOM is a and independent story and is separate to the monsterverse
Godzilla and Kong being in MLOM doesn’t mean anything,by your logic the dc crossover is canon because Godzilla and Kong are in the comic
MLOM makes sense for it being non canon since it contradicts the films and doesn’t mention anything about aftershock and awakening
can you put idw godzilla in the monsterverse?
Can someone pass me the statement of Godzilla's AMP called Heavenly?
You think IDW ROE Goji could defeat Keizer whilst fresh?
Easily.
Bro also alr defeated a Keizer ghidorah in the PREQUEL comics lmao
This video is better than baby gronk’s rizz
I agree with pretty much everything
Even in his sleepy base form
Good vid but I don’t think mothra’s ashes would do anything to Godzilla because him and monster verse mothra don’t have a symbiotic relationship
I mean, didn’t he kinda… sorta… technically ally himself with fw mothra? I obviously haven’t seen fw (pretty young), but considering mv mothra has a history for millions of years being Godzilla’s ally, she may have some, experience.😊
Even though final wars godzilla teamed with fw mothra he didn't need mothra to give him his powerup ozaki did it for him so yeah....
I know this isn't what you guys were saying and for that I apologize
Hey gkotm, i have something that i dont really accept because i try to make it fit and didnt work, its about kotm ghidora being at the same level as shimo and it just makes things like kotm base godzilla 10× stronger than evo godzilla because evo godzilla after his 10× times boost in power he was at the same level as shimo and, and i dont take that "x was stronger before" because if he doesnt show feats to reforce that then its wrong like heisei gamera>showa when showa is large planetary and heisei roughly multicontinental
Base Godzilla only compares to a weakened Ghidorah and has also beaten Shimo before. So I see no reason why it wouldn't work
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 alright, my explanetion of why ghidora is not equal to shimo i can recognise is complicated and possibly wrong so i have something simplier to prove that shimo is more powerful than ghidora, also this comment will not have words to hurt you or others, just to clarify my point
If wee say that ghidora is equal to shimo then ghidora (base) should be at the 866 ronnatons ranges or potency to destroy dwarf stars
Godzilla kotm was relative to a weaken ghidora so lets say he is equal to a 50% ghidora making him have a potency of 433 ronnatons
In gvk, i dont remember if it was in a novel or guide but it was stated that gvk godzilla was close to full power or kotm level
In gxk godzilla was supercharged so if that is not evidence that he is at 100% then he is an atom close to full power
Evolved makes this godzilla 2 times stronger so evo godzilla should be at the same level of a 100% ghidora (base)
Now, supercharged godzilla evolved is a 10 times multiplier to normal evo and shimo was comparable to him so in that case
Shimo is 10 times stronger than base 100% ghidora
If we use amp ghidora the gap in power is that ghidora is almost 3 times stronger than shimo so, in a weird way, amp ghidora vs shimo is a closer fight than base ghidora to shimo, also i will delete my other explanation because i think this is like an update to that so it would be better to delete it, still watch your content and i get entertained by it, keep the good work ;) , to clarify this comment is not to harm you or others is just my opinion
I feel he’s mostly wipe the floor with every Kaiju in the monsterverse, maybe besides ghidorah and legendary godzilla
Shimo:
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 oh yea forgot about shimo too
@@daffierpython7755 But unless he gets stronger like in this scenario, no, unless you're still on that stupid anti accuracy crap you were before.
Shimo, Ghidorah, Godzilla and Mecha:
@@Gonzalo_Gonzales76045he beats mecha mid diff
Wait i gotta ask, why doesnt the mutos emp work on this particular godzilla as you said their emp wouldnt work on fw goji?
Legendary's atomic abilities were (might change with evolved form) powered by bioelectric reactions in his body-which is why an EMP works.
Haven’t we met already?
@kingkaijuboygodjira3116 oh yeah I'm currently debating you on why shin gets eviscerated(literally) by mv goji....and you say otherwise.
Dinomania post btw
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 ah ok...I was just curious and wanted to know. Thks for the explanation though👍
@@UltimateGoji2024 yeah😅
1:28 😂😂 Hell nah
Final Wars would take the male muto's claws like nothing as he survived gigans buzzsaws and blades, way stronger than anything the male mutos's claws.
The BiB is where, for me, fw stops and as hevanly g at the reo battle
AND Kong all weapons > heavenly g
@@gabejoyner6589no dum dum heavenly one shots kong
@@gabejoyner6589if your actually stupid to say that Kong with all weapons can kill a star lvl Kaiju your weird
@@gabejoyner6589anyways spelling class is free
He stops at Shimo and ghidorah. Period lol.
I’d say monsterverse Godzilla’s spiral ray is most comparable to final war’s and mv’s spiral ray did basically nothing to Shimo apart from stun her slightly and take her focus off kong…
But there was no visible damage done. Shimo is easily the second most durable kaiju in the monsterverse next to Godzilla.
MV's spiral ray honestly doesn't even compete.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812yeah
Fw shr= 13500 ronnatons
Mv shr= 866 ronn
Thats a 15+ times diference
i agree
How viable or inconsistent is Keizer/Heavenly Godzilla's "infinite power" stupidity?
Well
There's only the symbol
Burning Godzilla 2019 one shots spiral ray evolved Godzilla right?
Burning state is a 200× multiplier but that with a moon level+ godzilla
Evolved sc is a 12× multiplier to a dwarf star godzilla so,*no*
MV godzilla : hey final wars
final wars godzilla : yo MV wassup
MV godzilla : hey i have a mission for you
final wars godzilla : yeah what is it?
MV godzilla : can you fight the ennemies of my universe pls
final wars godzilla : hmm 🤔
yeah sure👍🏾😁
MV : thank you🥹
final wars godzilla : np👍🏾
*after finish*
MV : thank you man
final wars : np MV 👍🏾
Do you think mv could survive the Godzilla anime prequel novels
Yes
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812Can you make a video on what if Godzilla Earth was in the monsterverse ?
@@Cosmic_JC A slaughter occurs
@@Cosmic_JChe would obliterate the entire monsterverse with a single plasma cutter
How abou if mv godzilla absorb fw godzilla power and DNA just like he did to tiamant
Yo creo que Godzilla final war sí sea lo suficientemente sádico para matar a mothra gxk para más poder y derrotar a shimo.
La verdad eso seria algo posible, cuando mato a kaizer ghidora iva directo a matar a los humanos que lo ayudaron a ganar, (aunque el tambien reconose que mothra fw es aliada asique nose)
No ataco a mothra y shimo ya se lo papea
@@Gonzalo_Gonzales76045 es verdad.
Fw amp por mothra > shimo
Swap showa and heisei era next
Just a note that Ghidorah was not the strongest character in the monsterverse. Shimo was confirmed to be more powerful. But excellent video
No, Ghidorah's still the strongest. Shimo has zero statements of such, feats of such, and only people freaking out that she MIGHT be stronger than Ghidorah-but that doesn't mean much.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 The official novelization of GXK confirmed that Shimo was the one who put Ghidorah in the ice
@@freezer-monkey She froze him, but official info has Godzilla dealing burn marks to Ghidorah right before he was frozen. Shimo deals frost bite damage, not scorches. And we've been told officially Godzilla's the one who knocked him into the sea.
So the most you get from that is Shimo + Godzilla > Ghidorah
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Fair enough
can you do a hesi swap with legendary and hezi godzilla
yes
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 thanks bro
Final wars goji full power vs Kong beast glove
17:21 the same thing happened in gxk tho...
Final wars Godzilla is more faster than legendary is more of a brute in Kombat
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I wanna know: Is it ever mentioned if Final Wars keeps the Keizer energy amp and the G Spark Heat Ray or not?
No, it is not.
Kong being physically stronger than Godzilla feels kinda wierd, even if it is a diferent godzilla
Also are you sure Ghosorah was weaekened in antarctica cause I saw the quote and to me it read ghidorah was amping himself not regaining his strength
Godzilla is Physically Stronger than Kong (in the Monsterverse)
Does it feel weird that king kong outright killed Godzilla in the original, before being retconned? The scrapped sequel to kk vs g was going to have a scene of Godzilla’s corpse being lifted from the water and placed in an amusement park, it felt kinda weird at first when I learned this, considering what’s happened till now.
Looks like l have been blitzed by you.
TWICE
Could Hannah Barbara Godzilla survive the Showa era?
No
No
No
Absolutely not
No
FW would not beat shinomura.Shinomura has a death swarm where there are pieces of him floating around and final wars wouldn't hit them bucko so shinomura would eventuall win.
Considering they literally could do nothing to a MV Godzilla way weakened by hibernation they lack any offensive power
I feel like you kinda nerfed fw goji here cause he would of more than likely killed the mutos instantly and his atomic breath should have made killing mz easier since as you said it burned cells, and he isn’t like legendary goji though cause didnt he overpower mx while he was tired
Legendary could also kill cells and Ghidorah ate his attacks just fine. The Mutos have the strength to stab into MV and tango with him physically. They should surpass FW in brute force before he increases his ability.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812what I meant with the mutos is that he would have kill hokmuto immediately in their first encounter, would he not, plus the mutos were fighting a younger goji who was nowhere near the durability of final goji so they shouldn’t really be able to really do much?
@@Funnyman-animatornh2vothe really it's stated that the muto cuts in to godzilla skin bones deep their attacks would hurt final wars ofc this would scale to mutos ap and dura the mutos can survive multiple beams from fw until fw gets extremely weakened and the mutos just retreats that's it it's just a durability difference
@@Funnyman-animatornh2vo You do know 2014 Godzilla survived fights with Shimo and Ghidorah right?
@@Compy_1 Fw getting stronger the more he fights?
final wars can solo the monsterverse
Only in heavenly amp state and shimo could give him problems
Bro please make a Video on Godzilla RAT, and GIH
Scare king va Godzilla
Godzilla cannot defeat him if he gets too scared(in all seriousness Godzilla low diffs)
Is Shimo male or female?
Female
I feel like femuto or muto prime would prob kill him
Can they kill him? Yes
Would they? Absolutely not.
@@MutolatorGTOfem and male muto at best are country level, muto prime is phisicaly continental level and by his powers he his multicontinental
Low ball fw is moon level+
Not even close
No final wars cannot survive
Yes he can
@@gonzalezsalembyronorlando5875 no
Yes, stop downplay kid@@onedopegamer
scylla is pronounced "silla"
Just my opinion but FW ain't beating MV Ghidorah
Normally he wouldn't. With Mothra's lifeforce? I think he could
Burning final wars Godzilla 💀
Mutos would’ve destroyed him
Yea tbh youre kind of shitballing monsterverses speed and scaling theres stuff that gets kong to 27x times the sol in his base half power state and for some reason? You disregard the solar mv scaling while getting fw to star level through ultraman statements? Or did you lowball just for content
This guys scaling is ass bonkers as he is so?
1+1=2
Mv gojis atomic breath is only 20K degrees Celsius while FWS atomic breath is 1.2M degrees Celsius. Explain how is that weaker? Do you even go over the statements of FWS goji? Forget the feats go over the statements of the two first.
FW beam has no stated temperature-
And I've covered them both multiple times literally saying check the older videos-
Temperature don’t really matter when they can tank nukes point blank which are 100M C
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 when I looked it up it said “1.2M degrees Celsius”
@@aperschmoo sure but based off the statements everyone else has found of FWS goji, I’m more convinced FWS solos mv goji. Not a FWS fanboy but… FWS one taps the verse. Tbh:/
@@kingkaijuboygodjira3116 Lotta statements for FW have either death of the author fallacy or come from sources that aren’t official. But the statements that are official make FW around the range of MV. Make sure to always check your sources
cap on the egpit fight
Really really wrong
Prime kills him honestly
Nah.
@@FantasticFourJohnnyStorm final can’t do any meaningful damage and prime hitting him once would fuck him up a ton