I know the hard work involved. I just did 20,000 Square feet over 5 yards this weekend for myself and family. Scalping, mowing, seeding, peat moss, etc. Hard work. Lol.
Next time you spread the peat moss, consider purchasing a peat moss/compost roller spreader. it would have made quick work of the peat moss given you a really even spread. I found one on Amazon for about $150. Anyway, nice job.
For all they peat moss you should have a compost spreader. It would make the job much easier and faster and better coverage. Its a night and day difference to spread with a compost spreader.. try for the Lanzie one just my 2c .. nice job by the way !!
Nice work! I recently did a full lawn renovation and used Triple Threat in NC. It came in great considering I had my yard down to bare dirt. I also wanted to give the seed a try after seeing Olee's yard.
Just found ur channel from jersey as well always wondered about triple threat I went with GCI cool blue on my front lawn triple threat looks like good cultivars been seeing it on alot of channels
Lot of work and lot of money goes in to bring a lawn to maintenance mode. 3 times watering and nursing the grass seedling is also required. If it rains then peat mos moss gets washed and concentrates in certain areas and created bare patches. Seeds also can get washed away. You have a reapply peat moss to cover up the seeds for soil contact. You have to stamp the whole yard for good seed to soil contact. Using compost is recommended during maintenance mode. Going organic is the key. Save the Soil and nature.
The Scott's starter fertilizer with Tenacity is AWESOME. The problem I had last year is I didn't reapply after six weeks and the crabgrass came right up. This year I'm going to try applying it at half rate so I can reapply again after six weeks. By that time my grass seed should be established.
Good idea! Another alternative strategy would be to apply dithiopyr (dimension) in liquid form at the max rate once the grass has established. Dimension is also a pre emergent, but also will kill young crabgrass that has emerged.
2 video I watched this morning where peat moss was spread w shovel.... 2 weeks ago, I did I by hand! I was 2 weeks too early!! Lol. Great pre-planning by you!
Really it’s all in the method of how you throw it down. When using your shovel take the peat moss out keeping your shovel level and and close to the ground and twist your arms as you fling the peat moss. It’s like dust so if it’s to high it just disappears before hitting the ground. I had one bag cover 1500sq ft with very minimal light spots. It’s all in how you throw er down Hahahahaha. Good luck
I used this method last fall and had great results. Can you provide some details on what you do to the lawn in the Spring? Is it as simple as dethatching and using pre-emergent fertilizer, and filling in bare spots? All of your videos on rehabbing and starting new lawns are "fall" season projects. I just want to get off to a good start this spring after my fall success. Thx.
I have one queued up for this weekend. Spring Pre-Emergent. Thanks for watching! Edit… in the meantime, here’s an older video explaining Pre-emergents… different types and when to apply: ruclips.net/video/pB4TWrIZ8hc/видео.html The video this weekend will be an actual application of prodiamine. I sprayed the lawn yesterday. It’s in the video editor now.
Yes, my first time to your channel watching you RUclips excuse me I’m trying to live on my yard backyard and is it good to use Pont and just wanted to know what else if I can’t use that what else I could use to level my yard soil type of soil I need to use
Really depends on how bad or how far off things are… if you have very minor dips and bumps, then you can use sand and level things out with either a landscape rake or leveling rake. If you have large holes to fill, I like screened fill dirt, compact, then level with some nutrient rich topsoil.
Lawngineer, thanks for showing the video I am new and start learning this oversees process. I have a couple questions. 1) should it lay down peat moss first before seeding and fertilizer. 2) how long do you have to wait before mowing. When mowing will it suck up all the peat moss out of the lawn?. Thanks
Peat moss goes down last. And you want to try and wait as long as you can before mowing… but if the existing grass is looking like it’s starting to flop over on itself, then go ahead and mow on the highest setting of your mower. You won’t suck up the peat moss.
@@TuanTran-cb2ce yeah! Try to stick with grass seeds that are ideal for the climate… for example, probably not a good idea to mix warm season grasses with cool season grasses unless you live in a sort of transitional zone where the climate could support both. Also, depends on your cutting height too… for example, turf type tall fescue likes to be cut long, so if you were trying to maintain a shorter lawn, you might want to mix with grass types that will withstand a shorter cut.
I'm on day 14 of my front yard reno. I used Bluebank KBG and germination day was on the 7th day. It's coming in very nice however I'm sure I have a couple weeks before first mow. Will use my 7 blade earyhwise reel. I'm from NJ and when do you think I should start hitting it with some small does of N. Normally I would be loading up N before winter however not sure if I should do that till spring with the grass being so new.
Typically can hit with about 1/2 lb of N per 1,000 SF about 6 weeks after germination. I plan to hit this with another round of Starter fert the week of October 19th (Just before Halloween). Then around Thanksgiving I’ll put it to bed with a round of Milorganite.
@@TheLawngineer I'm very happy with how it came in. There is a couple areas along the front of the border wall that is a little slower to fill in. That area doesn't get many hours of sun but I'm confident it will be ok. Yesterday was the 3rd mow so far. I decided not to do a 2nd app of starter since of high phos levels. A few weeks ago I applied a very small urea app with pump sprayer along with some sea kelp and root hume. Then applied some Humic DG. Last week applied 1/4 lb of N of Pro Peat 17-0-4. This week I sprayed 12 oz. of SLS 15-0-15. Next week will do another 1/4 lb. of pro peat. I will put up a picture slide video soon that will show progress starting at day of germination.
Man.. that is some work! Looking forward to seeing how it turns out. Can you tell me what cultivars are in the Triple Threat from Southern Seeds? Currently I have the cultivars contained in GCI TTTF and Jonathan Green Black Beauty Ultra (small amount of perennials rye and KBG), but I'm always on the lookout for additional premium tall fescue cultivars for diversity.
Edward Olson also check out the channel Mowing with Mark. He just acquired a bunch of seed varieties and will be experimenting with all of them. Sounds exciting.
This video contains the results of this work: ruclips.net/video/M-GFy74ktDM/видео.html The full playlist from this renovation is here: ruclips.net/p/PLn-7eoH8JKPBYkKK90c-oSM9YdKugJvSt
New to the lawn thing… great video with a lot of knowledge! Question: I used to cover seeds with top soil, but I see a lot of videos using peet moss. Is it better to do so?
Top soil works if you don’t bury the seed too much. A nice thin layer. There are different opinions on this. You could just rake it in and roll the seed in. That works too. But peat moss is very good with holding onto moisture. And it’s weed free. Thats part of the reason why I like it.
Hi, thank you for the video which is very useful while I’m also a resident of beautiful New Jersey, my question is, will that be okey to apply all those 3 product (Grass Seed, Turf Builder Starter, and Organic Fertiliser) at the same time and day?
I’m from New Jersey too!!! :). I’m a new homeowner that went from renting and never taking care of a lawn, to 2.5 acres!!! I have no idea how to start!!! What stores do you shop at? The big box stores or the local landscaping stores? I am looking for more budget friendly options since I have a large lawn! Thanks!!! :)
Congrats on the new home! 2.5 acres is a lot! Most budget friendly program might be a liquid program. But you’ll need to have the equipment to spray. And a backpack might be too small for such a large area if you plan to do it all. You can get bulk quantities of liquids from a Site One. Edit: you might also benefit from a hybrid of liquid and granular. Liquids for your pre-emergents and disease/fungus control as well as bug issues (if any). And granular for your nitrogen… probably the cheapest you’ll find is a urea based nitrogen. For such a large lot, I would recommend a soil test to determine if how much other nutrients you need. Only buy for what you need. i.e. if you soil test comes back with high phosphorus, don’t get fertilizer with phosphorus in it. You’d just be wasting money since it’s not going to do anything for you.
How low do you cut tall fescue before overseeding? And I’ve never seen using both starter and molgranite at the same time during seed down - great idea!
I live in Washington State when is the best time to remove moss. Also to reseed the grass when is the best time. One more thing to detached your lawn when is it the best time
For the moss, You want it to be warm out, but not hot and do it before you reseed. After a few days you can take out the dead moss then do your dethatch and overseed. Best time in my opinion is late summer/early fall. You want enough time for the seed to germinate and grow before the first frost. You want to time it so that you can get a few good mows in (say 4-6) before the first frost. Not sure what that timing looks like in Washington. But here in the East Coast, I typically do it in late August.
Man bro, you should have brought the peathmoss spreader, is a little expensive buy I think I'll save you time and your back as well. Lol Good job though.
Adan Arceo 😂 I was just telling Bermuda Brian that I saw a few post about spreaders after doing this! Definitely gonna buy one for future applications!
I realize this is from 2020 but it appears that you didn't aerate the lawn before putting down anything. It also seems like you might have some fungus issues that need addressing. Like others have said, good effort but you could've used less peat moss by getting a landzie spreader. I've considered peat moss for my next overseeding (instead of straw), and I intend to use a combination of compost/peat moss as a final top dressing.
Great Comments and I really appreciate you watching! So this video is part 4 of several videos that are part of the Project Lawn 2020 Playlist. The playlist can be found here: ruclips.net/p/PLn-7eoH8JKPBYkKK90c-oSM9YdKugJvSt I did not do mechanical aeration, but did do a few liquid aeration applications which worked out well. Here we are dealing with very loose, sandy soils so it wasn’t too bad. Also, we didn’t have any fungus issues here. What you are seeing in this video is the aftermath of killing off weeds in the previous video (Part 3). The Landzie would have helped a lot! LOL, I didn’t even know there was such a thing back then. Total game changer... I’ve got one now! And will definitely use it on this lawn when we overseed again in the fall! Check that video out here: ruclips.net/video/n6ig5GI1m50/видео.html Thanks again for watching and commenting!
Yes! And we actually did dethatch this lawn before throwing down. I created a playlist and this video was episode 4 of that playlist. The dethatching happened in episode 2. You can check out the entire playlist here: ruclips.net/p/PLn-7eoH8JKPBYkKK90c-oSM9YdKugJvSt Thanks for watching!
Hello would you recommend putting down Milorganite at the same time (or within a couple weeks of) Vigoro starter fertilizer? Or do the same thing? Thanks in advance
You can put milo down at the same time as the starter fertilizer. Milo is going to breakdown slowly over time and the starter fertilizer will breakdown more quickly. So you’ll get that quick release of Nitrogen from the starter to really get things going... and slow release from the Milo to keep you going down the road.
@@TheLawngineer Thanks for the reply! I was planning on seeding right about now (I'm in Maryland, April 7 today) but two days ago I made the newbie mistake of spraying the whole yard with Wedd B Gone to get rid of the crabgrass. It was after I did that that I read on the label that you are supposed to wait 4 weeks after Weed b Gone before trying to grow new grass. Is that flexible at all or did I ruin my chances of growing new grass in the spring? I think if I wait the whole 4 weeks (bringing me to May 7), it will be too late in the season for seeding. What about seeding one week after the Weed B Gone? Best regards - Nick
I watchedxto the end waiting to see r the end results. Why do the vid and not show results? Also couldnt help but wonder if the neighbors were upset watching their ground water dissappear to water that huge lawn.
Thanks for watching!! This video was part of a series of videos I put out as part of the renovation I did last season. Results are in this video: ruclips.net/video/M-GFy74ktDM/видео.html The entire playlist is here: ruclips.net/p/PLn-7eoH8JKPBYkKK90c-oSM9YdKugJvSt Also, I discuss the watering issues too... it was a huge issue and we are only renovating and maintaining 10,000 SF of this property. The watering was done just to germinate the seed and get things established. To help things out, the video I linked above (with the results) show me pre-germinating the seed. This was a huge water saver! The cultivar of grass seed was specifically selected for this lawn because of its drought and heat tolerance properties. Now that the lawn is established, there is no irrigation on the lawn.
Thanks! This is in Hamilton (outside of Trenton). When we did this renovation we did not core aerate. Instead, we dethatched and used liquid aeration products. Came in nicely!
@@TheLawngineer how long did u wait until after u used liquid aeration. I am close to Hamilton too planning to overseed today or this week since stupid weather lol..Also I see you used start fertilizer with weed prevention is that recommended in fall around us?
@@Gandio420 you don’t have to wait at all. You can use the Scott’s starter fert plus weed preventer. It contains Mesotrione which will allow new grass seed to germinate but prevent weeds from germinating. Good luck with your overseeding!
Seed-to-soil contact is key. You don’t have to smother the seed in topsoil. Actually the seed can sit on top of the soil... so long as it’s making cold contact, it will germinate and root in.
So I like to use a drop spreader only for a trim pass or two. That way I keep the seed out of any beds or areas you don’t want seeded. The drop spreader will literally drop the seed between the wheels of the spreader. Then I’ll switch over to a broadcast (rotary) spreader to cover the rest of the lawn. The broadcast spreader is faster and will give you better coverage. If you only use a drop spreader, you have to make sure you properly overlap on each pass, or you risk only planting grass strips. I like both, I just use them differently.
I never pay attention to the spreader setting. I just make sure I try to evenly distribute the pounds of seed over the area. For example, we had a 50 lb bag of seed and overseeded at a rate of 5 lbs per 1,000 SF. We have 10,000 SF, so I dumped the entire bag into the spreader and started on a low setting. Then made multiple passes until the hopper was empty.
I probably could have used a few more bags for this application. This was 22 bags for 10,000 SF. But could have used another 8-10 bags. The method on how you spread it also matters. The method in this video was to help save time. So we got a little heavy handed in some areas. You can also get a peat moss/compost spreader. Never used one, but heard good things about it. The best way is by hand (total control), but you’ll be spreading for hours and it’s a huge mess.
Wow, I really went lite. I only used 1 bag of peat on 1200 sqft. 😂 I got lucky. I will go heavier next time. After using sprinkler some areas looked bare.
Hello, thanks for the information. I was planning on seeding right about now (I'm in Maryland, April 7 today) but two days ago I made the newbie mistake of spraying the whole yard with Wedd B Gone to get rid of the crabgrass. It was after I did that that I read on the label that you are supposed to wait 4 weeks after Weed b Gone before trying to grow new grass. Is that flexible at all or did I ruin my chances of growing new grass in the spring? I think if I wait the whole 4 weeks (bringing me to May 7), it will be too late in the season for seeding. What about seeding one week after the Weed B Gone? Best regards - Nick
You can do it for a trim pass. But if you use it for the whole yard, you have to overlap with it over the wheels and it just takes longer to apply. The rotary spreader broadcast it out further in a wide swath that covers a much wider area.
should have rented a peat moss spreader from Home Depot. 10,000 sq ft??? F that. ive been trying to fix my lawn, but i know when i overseed next spring, il be using a spreader for the peat moss, better even coverage. only have to rent it for 4 hours so wont cost much.
I’m trying to acquire one for next year! Would have been helpful! Didn’t even know they existed until after this video! Then I started seeing tons of ads for them 🤣
Thanks for watching! Check out the entire playlist here to see the entire process. ruclips.net/p/PLn-7eoH8JKPBYkKK90c-oSM9YdKugJvSt Dethatching was done. Results in the last video are amazing!!! Note, I only maintained the front yard and within the fence in the backyard.
Man that's over $500 of crap just to get a slightly greener lawn. I don't see it being worth it. I rather pay $30 for 5k ft of seed, $25 for 3 40lb bags of manure and spread it thinly over 3k ft of yard. And call it a day. ✌🏻
Valid point! It can get very expensive. Especially the larger the area you have. This lot has about an acre of land. We just chose to cut it off at 10,000 SF. I have yet to try manure. I’m open to giving it a try. I recently got a top dressing spreader that will make it easier to spread things finer/thinner and faster! Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@TheLawngineer You know what? That should be your next video. I would definitely watch it. Just don't get fresh manure, get the aged variety - it doesn't stink as bad - a lesson I learned the hard way. 😅
I used steer manure on one section I seeded last month and chicken manure on the other. They were both composted. They both worked well, but the chicken manure (which I worked into the top 2”) area was phenomenal. It may haven been because I read chicken is higher in phosphorus, which is good for seedlings/root growth.
@@TheLawngineer I live in Maryland You said in the video you live in Jersey so we're not that far apart maybe we can communicate and share information and secrets lol
There’s definitely a lot to cover. I’m trying to do some shorter form content as well... here’s a preview of one I did on Instagram: instagram.com/reel/COnUEUxjw8H/?igshid=4nbo67apaa7j Thanks for watching!
Down-voted because you use peatmoss...very unstainabele, very bad for the enviroment....Peat moss bogs take 1000s of year to grow and are important for our planets ecosystem. Screen compost is cheap, readily available at the home center in bags or by the yard from your local lanscape supplier, or free if you make it yourself. Screened compost is super enviromentally friendly, and does the same job if not better. And a good compost has dark color which helps absorb solar radiation...warming up the ground in early spring or late fall thus speeding up seed germination.
Fake news. We in Ireland are burning turf to keep us warm for thousands of years. We are not stopping for cracked environmentalists.. sure ireland stopping burning turf will make zero effect on the global carbon enmisions .. time a bit of common sense entered the debate.. tell you what , when Russia China India and the USA stop burning coal and peat then i will consider not burning turf or coal. Maybe, just maybe God put turf there for us to warm our asses in the winter and spread peat moss on the ground to feed the soil. Of course you can’t mention God can we?
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I know the hard work involved. I just did 20,000 Square feet over 5 yards this weekend for myself and family. Scalping, mowing, seeding, peat moss, etc. Hard work. Lol.
Next time you spread the peat moss, consider purchasing a peat moss/compost roller spreader. it would have made quick work of the peat moss given you a really even spread. I found one on Amazon for about $150. Anyway, nice job.
@@thomass5169 check this out!!! You’re right, total game changer: ruclips.net/video/n6ig5GI1m50/видео.html
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Lawngineer: Big thanks for creating this comprehensive overseeding video with demonstrated steps. 🙏
No problem! Thanks for watching. Let me know if you have any questions. Cheers!!
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Wow!! That means a lot! Thank you so much! And thank you for watching!!
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Thanks Adam!! I really appreciate it!!
For all they peat moss you should have a compost spreader. It would make the job much easier and faster and better coverage. Its a night and day difference to spread with a compost spreader.. try for the Lanzie one just my 2c .. nice job by the way !!
Yeah I agree but it’s freakin’ expensive. Surprisingly it’s not even available to rent. I so seriously am missing the spreader!
@@worldpeace5853 check your local home Depot.
@@johnnelwhite None of the Home Depot anywhere in US rent them they just have it on their website
@@worldpeace5853 oh no i found one in my area on the website ill be calling Monday to make sure.
@@johnnelwhite Where are you located. Such a disservice HD is doing when they have on the site. It’s a pity!
Nice work! I recently did a full lawn renovation and used Triple Threat in NC. It came in great considering I had my yard down to bare dirt. I also wanted to give the seed a try after seeing Olee's yard.
Happy it worked out well for you!! Pretty good selection of seed for sure! Thanks for watching!
Just found ur channel from jersey as well always wondered about triple threat I went with GCI cool blue on my front lawn triple threat looks like good cultivars been seeing it on alot of channels
Damn!! I hope that over the 3 years since this video was produced, you saved your body some pain and invested in a compost spreader.😲😲
LOL… yes. Here’s a link to a video I did on one. Life saver!
ruclips.net/video/n6ig5GI1m50/видео.html
Lot of work and lot of money goes in to bring a lawn to maintenance mode.
3 times watering and nursing the grass seedling is also required.
If it rains then peat mos moss gets washed and concentrates in certain areas and created bare patches. Seeds also can get washed away.
You have a reapply peat moss to cover up the seeds for soil contact. You have to stamp the whole yard for good seed to soil contact.
Using compost is recommended during maintenance mode.
Going organic is the key. Save the Soil and nature.
The Scott's starter fertilizer with Tenacity is AWESOME. The problem I had last year is I didn't reapply after six weeks and the crabgrass came right up. This year I'm going to try applying it at half rate so I can reapply again after six weeks. By that time my grass seed should be established.
Good idea! Another alternative strategy would be to apply dithiopyr (dimension) in liquid form at the max rate once the grass has established. Dimension is also a pre emergent, but also will kill young crabgrass that has emerged.
@@TheLawngineer Thanks for that tip! I will definitely use that.
2 video I watched this morning where peat moss was spread w shovel.... 2 weeks ago, I did I by hand! I was 2 weeks too early!! Lol. Great pre-planning by you!
Ha! After doing this, I started seeing posts on peat moss spreaders! Gonna look into those in the future.
Yep! I couldn't find one to rent anywhere in NWGA!
Man this dude wiped a whole bog out all by himself.
Thanks for watching!
@@TheLawngineer Yeah it was fun thumbs downing all your trash videos
@@alphasmurf6563 thanks for your time. Much appreciated.
Really it’s all in the method of how you throw it down. When using your shovel take the peat moss out keeping your shovel level and and close to the ground and twist your arms as you fling the peat moss. It’s like dust so if it’s to high it just disappears before hitting the ground. I had one bag cover 1500sq ft with very minimal light spots. It’s all in how you throw er down Hahahahaha. Good luck
I’m definitely getting one of those compost/peat moss spreaders for next time!
I used this method last fall and had great results. Can you provide some details on what you do to the lawn in the Spring? Is it as simple as dethatching and using pre-emergent fertilizer, and filling in bare spots? All of your videos on rehabbing and starting new lawns are "fall" season projects. I just want to get off to a good start this spring after my fall success. Thx.
I have one queued up for this weekend. Spring Pre-Emergent. Thanks for watching! Edit… in the meantime, here’s an older video explaining Pre-emergents… different types and when to apply: ruclips.net/video/pB4TWrIZ8hc/видео.html
The video this weekend will be an actual application of prodiamine. I sprayed the lawn yesterday. It’s in the video editor now.
Pre-Emergent video is live… you can watch here if you’re still interested: ruclips.net/video/oNhmSRO9g3Y/видео.html
Yes, my first time to your channel watching you RUclips excuse me I’m trying to live on my yard backyard and is it good to use Pont and just wanted to know what else if I can’t use that what else I could use to level my yard soil type of soil I need to use
Really depends on how bad or how far off things are… if you have very minor dips and bumps, then you can use sand and level things out with either a landscape rake or leveling rake. If you have large holes to fill, I like screened fill dirt, compact, then level with some nutrient rich topsoil.
Should have used the echolawn 250 top dresser. Take a look at it!
That thing is a beast! Maybe one day I’ll rent one to try out.
lots of hard work 👍. I have a very very smalllawn as compared to this and still it's so difficult to maintain that.
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Thank you!! It is a lot of hard work and definitely takes time. But you can do it!
Lawngineer, thanks for showing the video I am new and start learning this oversees process. I have a couple questions. 1) should it lay down peat moss first before seeding and fertilizer. 2) how long do you have to wait before mowing. When mowing will it suck up all the peat moss out of the lawn?. Thanks
Peat moss goes down last. And you want to try and wait as long as you can before mowing… but if the existing grass is looking like it’s starting to flop over on itself, then go ahead and mow on the highest setting of your mower. You won’t suck up the peat moss.
Thank you much for your quick response. Would it be ok to mix different type of grass seeds and spread on lawn.
@@TuanTran-cb2ce yeah! Try to stick with grass seeds that are ideal for the climate… for example, probably not a good idea to mix warm season grasses with cool season grasses unless you live in a sort of transitional zone where the climate could support both. Also, depends on your cutting height too… for example, turf type tall fescue likes to be cut long, so if you were trying to maintain a shorter lawn, you might want to mix with grass types that will withstand a shorter cut.
I'm on day 14 of my front yard reno. I used Bluebank KBG and germination day was on the 7th day. It's coming in very nice however I'm sure I have a couple weeks before first mow. Will use my 7 blade earyhwise reel. I'm from NJ and when do you think I should start hitting it with some small does of N. Normally I would be loading up N before winter however not sure if I should do that till spring with the grass being so new.
Typically can hit with about 1/2 lb of N per 1,000 SF about 6 weeks after germination. I plan to hit this with another round of Starter fert the week of October 19th (Just before Halloween). Then around Thanksgiving I’ll put it to bed with a round of Milorganite.
How’s the yard looking now?
@@TheLawngineer I'm very happy with how it came in. There is a couple areas along the front of the border wall that is a little slower to fill in. That area doesn't get many hours of sun but I'm confident it will be ok. Yesterday was the 3rd mow so far. I decided not to do a 2nd app of starter since of high phos levels. A few weeks ago I applied a very small urea app with pump sprayer along with some sea kelp and root hume. Then applied some Humic DG. Last week applied 1/4 lb of N of Pro Peat 17-0-4. This week I sprayed 12 oz. of SLS 15-0-15. Next week will do another 1/4 lb. of pro peat. I will put up a picture slide video soon that will show progress starting at day of germination.
Man.. that is some work! Looking forward to seeing how it turns out. Can you tell me what cultivars are in the Triple Threat from Southern Seeds? Currently I have the cultivars contained in GCI TTTF and Jonathan Green Black Beauty Ultra (small amount of perennials rye and KBG), but I'm always on the lookout for additional premium tall fescue cultivars for diversity.
35.02% Saltillo Tall Fescue, 34.77% Life Guard Tall Fescue, and 29.79% Cumberland Tall Fescue. 0.00% weed and other crop seeds. 0.42% Inert Matter
@@TheLawngineer Thank you! I may have to add it to the mix.
Edward Olson also check out the channel Mowing with Mark. He just acquired a bunch of seed varieties and will be experimenting with all of them. Sounds exciting.
Did you ever try spreading the compost through the drop spreader? I'm curious if it would go straight down in that one
I have not. I’ve seen it work well with sand.
How was the outcome? Was all that work worth it? I would love to see the results!
This video contains the results of this work: ruclips.net/video/M-GFy74ktDM/видео.html
The full playlist from this renovation is here: ruclips.net/p/PLn-7eoH8JKPBYkKK90c-oSM9YdKugJvSt
With that size lawn I would incorporate some hardscape.
It’s big!
New to the lawn thing… great video with a lot of knowledge! Question: I used to cover seeds with top soil, but I see a lot of videos using peet moss. Is it better to do so?
Top soil works if you don’t bury the seed too much. A nice thin layer. There are different opinions on this. You could just rake it in and roll the seed in. That works too. But peat moss is very good with holding onto moisture. And it’s weed free. Thats part of the reason why I like it.
Hi, thank you for the video which is very useful while I’m also a resident of beautiful New Jersey, my question is, will that be okey to apply all those 3 product (Grass Seed, Turf Builder Starter, and Organic Fertiliser) at the same time and day?
Absolutely!
Thanks for the videos, great content! Is there a risk of burning the lawn from putting down both fertilizers at the same time?
The OceanGro/Milorganite is non-burning. I have never had an issue with it when combined with other fertilizers.
I’m from New Jersey too!!! :). I’m a new homeowner that went from renting and never taking care of a lawn, to 2.5 acres!!! I have no idea how to start!!!
What stores do you shop at? The big box stores or the local landscaping stores? I am looking for more budget friendly options since I have a large lawn! Thanks!!! :)
Congrats on the new home! 2.5 acres is a lot! Most budget friendly program might be a liquid program. But you’ll need to have the equipment to spray. And a backpack might be too small for such a large area if you plan to do it all. You can get bulk quantities of liquids from a Site One.
Edit: you might also benefit from a hybrid of liquid and granular. Liquids for your pre-emergents and disease/fungus control as well as bug issues (if any). And granular for your nitrogen… probably the cheapest you’ll find is a urea based nitrogen.
For such a large lot, I would recommend a soil test to determine if how much other nutrients you need. Only buy for what you need. i.e. if you soil test comes back with high phosphorus, don’t get fertilizer with phosphorus in it. You’d just be wasting money since it’s not going to do anything for you.
Today, you can’t even find anybody that has any peat moss for sale.
How low do you cut tall fescue before overseeding? And I’ve never seen using both starter and molgranite at the same time during seed down - great idea!
Honestly, as low as you are comfortable. Me personally… probably down to about 2”.
In watching you drop seed and fertilizer with a drop spreader, it looks like you are missing or skipping many rows? What am I missing lol?
We only used the drop spreader for a trim (or perimeter) pass. Switched to rotary for filling in everything else.
Okay, that's good! I couldn't tell that was a broadcast spreader and I thought oh my goodness he's missing a lot of lawn, LOL
Thank you for the informative video.
No problem! Thank you for watching!!
Great recipe! I noticed you didn't de-thatch first.
That was an earlier episode: ruclips.net/video/o5sUNbBibys/видео.html
@@TheLawngineer Yes, I just watched it. I need to watch the in order. :)
I live in Washington State when is the best time to remove moss. Also to reseed the grass when is the best time. One more thing to detached your lawn when is it the best time
For the moss, You want it to be warm out, but not hot and do it before you reseed. After a few days you can take out the dead moss then do your dethatch and overseed. Best time in my opinion is late summer/early fall. You want enough time for the seed to germinate and grow before the first frost. You want to time it so that you can get a few good mows in (say 4-6) before the first frost. Not sure what that timing looks like in Washington. But here in the East Coast, I typically do it in late August.
Man bro, you should have brought the peathmoss spreader, is a little expensive buy I think I'll save you time and your back as well. Lol
Good job though.
Adan Arceo 😂 I was just telling Bermuda Brian that I saw a few post about spreaders after doing this! Definitely gonna buy one for future applications!
@@TheLawngineer oh, ok I think I missed that part. 👍
@@TheLawngineer Instead of $300 peatmoss spreader purchase, you can rent one for $6/day.
Rent a peat moss spreader for $6 a day.It should make the job much easier!
The reason I personally watched this video is because no rental place (including big box stores) carry peat moss spreaders in their inventory.
Well that's were all Pete moss went
I realize this is from 2020 but it appears that you didn't aerate the lawn before putting down anything. It also seems like you might have some fungus issues that need addressing. Like others have said, good effort but you could've used less peat moss by getting a landzie spreader. I've considered peat moss for my next overseeding (instead of straw), and I intend to use a combination of compost/peat moss as a final top dressing.
Great Comments and I really appreciate you watching!
So this video is part 4 of several videos that are part of the Project Lawn 2020 Playlist. The playlist can be found here: ruclips.net/p/PLn-7eoH8JKPBYkKK90c-oSM9YdKugJvSt
I did not do mechanical aeration, but did do a few liquid aeration applications which worked out well. Here we are dealing with very loose, sandy soils so it wasn’t too bad.
Also, we didn’t have any fungus issues here. What you are seeing in this video is the aftermath of killing off weeds in the previous video (Part 3).
The Landzie would have helped a lot! LOL, I didn’t even know there was such a thing back then. Total game changer... I’ve got one now! And will definitely use it on this lawn when we overseed again in the fall! Check that video out here: ruclips.net/video/n6ig5GI1m50/видео.html
Thanks again for watching and commenting!
Did you apply the seed, fertilizers, and peat moss one after the other? Or was there some time between?
All the same day
Nice work! I seen you had 999 subscribers, let me make that 1000 lol
Thank you so much!!! I really appreciate it!
Cut grass short, dethatch, then seed- fertilize- peat moss with Landzie spreader
The Landzie would have been a huge help.
great vid thanks! would it be good to thatch that lawn as well?
Yes! And we actually did dethatch this lawn before throwing down. I created a playlist and this video was episode 4 of that playlist. The dethatching happened in episode 2. You can check out the entire playlist here: ruclips.net/p/PLn-7eoH8JKPBYkKK90c-oSM9YdKugJvSt
Thanks for watching!
Question.. When do you recommend how and when to deal with insects like bees, grubs ect?
I don’t target bees, but here is a video I did on grubs: ruclips.net/video/Mxm5MNvyxcU/видео.html
Hello would you recommend putting down Milorganite at the same time (or within a couple weeks of) Vigoro starter fertilizer? Or do the same thing? Thanks in advance
You can put milo down at the same time as the starter fertilizer. Milo is going to breakdown slowly over time and the starter fertilizer will breakdown more quickly. So you’ll get that quick release of Nitrogen from the starter to really get things going... and slow release from the Milo to keep you going down the road.
@@TheLawngineer Thanks for the reply! I was planning on seeding right about now (I'm in Maryland, April 7 today) but two days ago I made the newbie mistake of spraying the whole yard with Wedd B Gone to get rid of the crabgrass. It was after I did that that I read on the label that you are supposed to wait 4 weeks after Weed b Gone before trying to grow new grass. Is that flexible at all or did I ruin my chances of growing new grass in the spring? I think if I wait the whole 4 weeks (bringing me to May 7), it will be too late in the season for seeding. What about seeding one week after the Weed B Gone? Best regards - Nick
I watchedxto the end waiting to see r
the end results. Why do the vid and not show results?
Also couldnt help but wonder if the neighbors were upset watching their ground water dissappear to water that huge lawn.
Thanks for watching!! This video was part of a series of videos I put out as part of the renovation I did last season. Results are in this video: ruclips.net/video/M-GFy74ktDM/видео.html
The entire playlist is here: ruclips.net/p/PLn-7eoH8JKPBYkKK90c-oSM9YdKugJvSt
Also, I discuss the watering issues too... it was a huge issue and we are only renovating and maintaining 10,000 SF of this property. The watering was done just to germinate the seed and get things established. To help things out, the video I linked above (with the results) show me pre-germinating the seed.
This was a huge water saver! The cultivar of grass seed was specifically selected for this lawn because of its drought and heat tolerance properties. Now that the lawn is established, there is no irrigation on the lawn.
I have a question by the way. Does it not too much of fertilisers? 2 types. Is it ok?
One is a quick release fertilizer (starter Fertilizer). The other is slow release. All good and won’t burn the lawn.
Dam, 22 bags of 2 cubic feet of peat moss at $11.50?bag...$253 alone.
It was a lot! This season we will try to find something cheaper. Also, our pH is really low here... 4.5 and the peat moss certainly does not help.
It’s even more expensive now.
how often do you you put peat moss down? every year or just when you need to seed?
I used to do it when I would seed.
Dude this is awesome. What part of NJ are you from? Also did you core aerate before hand?
Thanks! This is in Hamilton (outside of Trenton). When we did this renovation we did not core aerate. Instead, we dethatched and used liquid aeration products. Came in nicely!
@@TheLawngineer how long did u wait until after u used liquid aeration. I am close to Hamilton too planning to overseed today or this week since stupid weather lol..Also I see you used start fertilizer with weed prevention is that recommended in fall around us?
@@Gandio420 you don’t have to wait at all. You can use the Scott’s starter fert plus weed preventer. It contains Mesotrione which will allow new grass seed to germinate but prevent weeds from germinating. Good luck with your overseeding!
@@TheLawngineer on the website it says 2 weeks atleast or upto 30 days..btw keep the good work good to see local lawn hero on RUclips with good info 🙂
@@Gandio420 then there you go! Always go by the label instructions. Thanks!
Fairly new to having a lawn, but does it help to add new top soil before overseeding?
Seed-to-soil contact is key. You don’t have to smother the seed in topsoil. Actually the seed can sit on top of the soil... so long as it’s making cold contact, it will germinate and root in.
Which is best peat moss or compost? Or do they serve the same purpose?
They serve the same purpose, but I believe peat moss is better because it will be virtually free of weed seeds and pathogens.
Wow there has to be a better method for applying Peat Moss. A lot of work. Thanks for video.
There is! Check this out: ruclips.net/video/n6ig5GI1m50/видео.html
Thanks for watching!
Look at the echolawn top dresser. It's a beast. Hopefully you have a rental place that rents it.
which spreader is better for seeding? Broadcast of drop spreader?
So I like to use a drop spreader only for a trim pass or two. That way I keep the seed out of any beds or areas you don’t want seeded. The drop spreader will literally drop the seed between the wheels of the spreader.
Then I’ll switch over to a broadcast (rotary) spreader to cover the rest of the lawn. The broadcast spreader is faster and will give you better coverage. If you only use a drop spreader, you have to make sure you properly overlap on each pass, or you risk only planting grass strips.
I like both, I just use them differently.
What setting did you use on your broadcast spreader for spreading the tall fescue?
I never pay attention to the spreader setting. I just make sure I try to evenly distribute the pounds of seed over the area. For example, we had a 50 lb bag of seed and overseeded at a rate of 5 lbs per 1,000 SF. We have 10,000 SF, so I dumped the entire bag into the spreader and started on a low setting. Then made multiple passes until the hopper was empty.
How many square feet will one bag of peat moss cover?
Elder Everett Gilbert 1 bag is good for about 300 - 400 SF when spread thin (like about 1/8”).
I probably could have used a few more bags for this application. This was 22 bags for 10,000 SF. But could have used another 8-10 bags. The method on how you spread it also matters. The method in this video was to help save time. So we got a little heavy handed in some areas. You can also get a peat moss/compost spreader. Never used one, but heard good things about it. The best way is by hand (total control), but you’ll be spreading for hours and it’s a huge mess.
The Lawngineer thanks
Wow, I really went lite. I only used 1 bag of peat on 1200 sqft. 😂 I got lucky. I will go heavier next time. After using sprinkler some areas looked bare.
Hello, thanks for the information. I was planning on seeding right about now (I'm in Maryland, April 7 today) but two days ago I made the newbie mistake of spraying the whole yard with Wedd B Gone to get rid of the crabgrass. It was after I did that that I read on the label that you are supposed to wait 4 weeks after Weed b Gone before trying to grow new grass. Is that flexible at all or did I ruin my chances of growing new grass in the spring? I think if I wait the whole 4 weeks (bringing me to May 7), it will be too late in the season for seeding. What about seeding one week after the Weed B Gone? Best regards - Nick
What is the name of the exact product you used. There are a few versions of weed be gone.
Also, what grass type are you trying to seed?
Landsie peat moss spreader.......get one, well worth it
It’s very nice! Game changer for sure. Thanks for watching! ruclips.net/video/n6ig5GI1m50/видео.html
Did u think of dethatching
I did dethatch. This video is Part 4 of a series. I think I did it in Part 2 or 3.
Got my work cut out for me.
Why don’t you use your drop spreader with the fertilizer
You can do it for a trim pass. But if you use it for the whole yard, you have to overlap with it over the wheels and it just takes longer to apply. The rotary spreader broadcast it out further in a wide swath that covers a much wider area.
What size bags were those peat moss bags?
3 cubic feet
@@TheLawngineer Thanks. I’m really lazy so I’m just buying a proportional amount for my yard. I’m near Princeton. Are you farther south?
@@rogerandjoan4329 this lawn was in Hamilton (outside Trenton). I’m a bit further south in Moorestown.
@@TheLawngineer What’s your opinion about over-seeding now? Is there any time left or should I wait for spring?
should have rented a peat moss spreader from Home Depot. 10,000 sq ft??? F that. ive been trying to fix my lawn, but i know when i overseed next spring, il be using a spreader for the peat moss, better even coverage. only have to rent it for 4 hours so wont cost much.
I have one now. Game changer
Why peat moss vs organic compost??
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should of gotten a peat moss spreader
I have one now!! Life saver! ruclips.net/video/n6ig5GI1m50/видео.html
use a peat moss spreader... Sooo much better !!!
I’m trying to acquire one for next year! Would have been helpful! Didn’t even know they existed until after this video! Then I started seeing tons of ads for them 🤣
@@TheLawngineer Hey Buddy nice video i'm looking to do something similar i found the landize spreader works great
@@perrihoward4673 I recently received a Landzie!! I’m looking forward to trying it out this season!! This is a tough job to do by hand!
I finally got a Peat Moss spreader! Soooo much better!!
@@TheLawngineer It’s freakin’ expensive. It’s not even available for rent. How much did you pay?
After video please?
ruclips.net/video/M-GFy74ktDM/видео.html
What part of NJ?
Central, right outside Trenton.
Leave those bees alone!
No bees were harmed in the making of this video.
@@TheLawngineer that was only a joke my friend!
Would love to have you as a guest speaker for our fb group in a Zoom meeting. Are you interested and available.
Tell me more at vincethelawngineer@gmail.com
You need to thatch bad my man. Shits half dead
Thanks for watching!
Check out the entire playlist here to see the entire process. ruclips.net/p/PLn-7eoH8JKPBYkKK90c-oSM9YdKugJvSt
Dethatching was done. Results in the last video are amazing!!! Note, I only maintained the front yard and within the fence in the backyard.
That is not a home lawn that is the first 9 holes of a golf course
Good job but appearance is everything. Disheveled is a common mistake.
Thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching!! I’m working on it!
Man that's over $500 of crap just to get a slightly greener lawn. I don't see it being worth it. I rather pay $30 for 5k ft of seed, $25 for 3 40lb bags of manure and spread it thinly over 3k ft of yard. And call it a day. ✌🏻
Valid point! It can get very expensive. Especially the larger the area you have. This lot has about an acre of land. We just chose to cut it off at 10,000 SF. I have yet to try manure. I’m open to giving it a try. I recently got a top dressing spreader that will make it easier to spread things finer/thinner and faster! Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@TheLawngineer You know what? That should be your next video. I would definitely watch it. Just don't get fresh manure, get the aged variety - it doesn't stink as bad - a lesson I learned the hard way. 😅
I used steer manure on one section I seeded last month and chicken manure on the other.
They were both composted. They both worked well, but the chicken manure (which I worked into the top 2”) area was phenomenal.
It may haven been because I read chicken is higher in phosphorus, which is good for seedlings/root growth.
Buy a landzie
I have one now! Check it out here: ruclips.net/video/n6ig5GI1m50/видео.html
@@TheLawngineer well done
YOU NEED BETTER VOLUME FOR THE CHANNEL.
YES! THIS WAS AN OLD VIDEO. VOLUME HAS BEEN RESOLVED IN RECENT VIDEOS. THANKS FOR WATCHING!
My friend you need to invest heavily in a microphone
Tony Gring thanks for the feedback! This is something I’m working on. It’s in my Christmas list, so I better be good! 😁
@@TheLawngineer I live in Maryland You said in the video you live in Jersey so we're not that far apart maybe we can communicate and share information and secrets lol
@@tonygring5533 absolutely! Are you on Instagram? I’m very active there and the platform is much better suited for conversation. @the_lawngineer
@@TheLawngineer I am not but my wife is she's going to send you a message real quick and then we'll talk from there
Nice and informative video but so long. In my opinion you don’t have to show every step you doing in the lawn. It’s getting so long.
There’s definitely a lot to cover. I’m trying to do some shorter form content as well... here’s a preview of one I did on Instagram: instagram.com/reel/COnUEUxjw8H/?igshid=4nbo67apaa7j
Thanks for watching!
GET A MICROPHONE
Yeah! This is an older video. I have one now! Thanks for watching!!
Down-voted because you use peatmoss...very unstainabele, very bad for the enviroment....Peat moss bogs take 1000s of year to grow and are important for our planets ecosystem.
Screen compost is cheap, readily available at the home center in bags or by the yard from your local lanscape supplier, or free if you make it yourself.
Screened compost is super enviromentally friendly, and does the same job if not better. And a good compost has dark color which helps absorb solar radiation...warming up the ground in early spring or late fall thus speeding up seed germination.
Thank you for sharing
Fake news. We in Ireland are burning turf to keep us warm for thousands of years. We are not stopping for cracked environmentalists.. sure ireland stopping burning turf will make zero effect on the global carbon enmisions .. time a bit of common sense entered the debate.. tell you what , when Russia China India and the USA stop burning coal and peat then i will consider not burning turf or coal. Maybe, just maybe God put turf there for us to warm our asses in the winter and spread peat moss on the ground to feed the soil. Of course you can’t mention God can we?