Bike Control Drills - Bike Ed Road I Course

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  • Scenes from Bike Ed Road I Bike Control skill drills training of Orange County Wheelmen by League of American Bicyclist Certified Instructors in Irvine, CA, on February 16th, 2008

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  • @Cycliste
    @Cycliste 16 лет назад

    This is a great video to show during the presentation part of the BikeEd class as it gives an idea of what to expect. And beyond its educational value, it promotes well the content of the class.

  • @CyclistLorax
    @CyclistLorax  16 лет назад +2

    The purpose of the serpentine drill is to acclimate the students to leaning, as this is needed to perform the instant turn. Students who are afraid to lean, almost invariably make poor instant turns. The figure-8 is just a refinement on turning tight circles; which is useful in showing the students how tightly they can turn. This also helps prepare them for instant turns and low speed balancing such as when waiting in the intersection for traffic to clear when making a left turn.

  • @CyclistLorax
    @CyclistLorax  16 лет назад

    Margaret,
    We have the students start-ride a straight-line and stop as the first drill (not shown in this RUclips video), then we do the head-turn rear scan combined with signaling drill. Next is tight circles, with the figure-8 as an optional challenge for those that can turn really thightly, then we do serpentine to tech the students how to lean. So I view all of these maneuvers as "basic bike control" maneuvers.
    - Dan -

  • @jeffpotter3476
    @jeffpotter3476 10 лет назад

    Lean-turns seem like a good drill, but perhaps also the most instinctive, though, as you note below says, maybe some people are afraid to do it. What do you think about adding a STEERED turn drill? Our velodrome club always did a warmup with a couple minutes of true serpentine riding without a lean. I believe motorcycle classes also include this. I think non-leaned steering is critical to developing a relaxed upper body and also to getting *weight off the hands*. So we would ride a bunch of turns, randomly, following a leader, at a slow pace but without leaning the bike. It seems like the "swooping" leaned "dive-type" turns create a much greater risk of front-wheel slide-out -- such as with any turn with a piece of gravel in it. Altho, as you say, on clean pavement we can lean much farther than people realize. I really dislike seeing someone do a "swooping" dodge of a pothole when I'm riding in a group. Fine control isn't there AT ALL. Also, is there a place for a 1st-gear grass riding and bumping/leaning-on-each-other drill? We used to do that. It seemed great for instantly creating a relaxed upper body and for getting weight off hands. I see in this video that everyone has straight arms -- doesn't this also created weighted hands and don't weighted hands impair control? My view is that if one lets go of the bars that ones head shouldn't drop much: weight should be carried by legs and rounded lower back. Straight arms causes 'hinged' sagging lower back with stress/strain. Well, these are just some ideas. I'm interested in all skills and drills that develop uncrashable riders, starting of course with the best drills first. Thanks for the video!

    • @archetypex65
      @archetypex65 8 лет назад

      Spot on mate! Forget body steering, it has lag and is a poor lazy habit to implement. Advoidence maneuvers REQUIRE quick, decisive input to the bars, to turn immediately.

  • @MusiCaninesTheMusicalDogs
    @MusiCaninesTheMusicalDogs 16 лет назад

    Hello! Nice work! I was wondering how would the figure-8 be done if the student was riding a recumbent bike. I've got a compact long wheel base recumbent and the figure-8 is not possible due to its distance between wheels. Even so, I can ride it safely in the streets.
    Regards!

  • @CyclistLorax
    @CyclistLorax  16 лет назад

    Sorry I didn't respond sooner; I missed this comment. The point of the exercise is to teach students how tightly they can turn on their own bicycle. For upright bikes, good bike handlers should be able to do a figure-8 in a parking stall. For LWB bikes, such as many recumbent types, the tightest circle will naturally be larger.

  • @CyclistLorax
    @CyclistLorax  16 лет назад

    Regarding the timing for the head-turn rear scan, we told the students to look when they passed the pole, and had Serge (the LCI in the peach colored shirt) signal to one side or the other before the students reach the pole. They then have to copy his signal, so that I (at the far end of the parking lot) can see that they both saw Serge, and can make a good arm signal. There is no yelling involved...

  • @CyclistLorax
    @CyclistLorax  16 лет назад

    I took no offense. Part of the reason for posting the video on RUclips is to solicit feedback; it is much appreciated. One other note: Brian didn't have the luxury of time to practice setups for the video. He did all of the camera setups with a tripod on-the-fly while I was instructing the students with Serge and Chris as excellent "demo riders", and I think he did a remarkable job of shooting the drills. Next time we will try to shoot angles that better capture the moment of countersteer.

  • @cyclenut
    @cyclenut 15 лет назад

    I think I have good cycling skills, with over 25,000 miles.. but I would like to take this class. To me the two most important cycling skills, looking back while traveling straight and the panic stop, from 30 mph.
    I have had to use that one more than several times. I also live riding in walking groups of people. People brushing against my handlebars and all while riding steady at 2.5 mph.

  • @brucewayne909
    @brucewayne909 14 лет назад

    hopefully someone is training the wheelmen to not run reds lights. about 5 years ago ( late 2004 ) I was cycling solo down to mission viejo from santa ana / tustin & was passed by a large group of OC wheelmen & I decided to try & keep up with them & only one problem with that is that they do not stop at red lights at busy intersections no less ( the old pack mentality ( or lack of mentality ) I guess & the main reason that I ride alone ) unlike some people I obey that traffic laws

  • @CyclistLorax
    @CyclistLorax  16 лет назад

    I think you need two at a minimum. It is too much of a burden to expect one LCI to signal and watch the reply from the student, since he must also change his signals at random for the next student. I suppose one instructor could dod this, but the time between students would have to be increased, and the single instructor also has to signal and carefully watch the student's line of travel. IMHO, this is too much for one LCI to do...

  • @latinflexx
    @latinflexx 11 лет назад

    Rock dodge looks like the hardest

  • @CyclistLorax
    @CyclistLorax  14 лет назад

    @brucewayne909 - The board of the OCW (I know a board member) is in the process of adopting a pledge for members to take that would have them agree to follow traffic rules and teach and encourage others to do so. Sadly, many cyclists (not you) are hypocrites who get mad when motorists violate traffic rules, yet flagrantly violate the same rules when they bicycle.

  • @archetypex65
    @archetypex65 8 лет назад

    I see a lot of body steering 👎 rather than counter steering. This is ok at slow speeds, but as speeds increase it becomes necessary to CS. POOR advice.

  • @wirdgeladen7920
    @wirdgeladen7920 11 лет назад

    WHAT THE FU*()(&^$#!!!! LOL!!!