I have SL10 and RX9 and what I like about the new SL is that it actually gives you separate stems with voice and noise in case you want to use both for whatever reason.
Thank you for this one! I do have clarity and RX, but now I will use spectralayer, it offers some good things especially on separating tracks with minimum phase issues. A possible new holy grail jeje
haha, the holy grail untill the next one comes right ;-) All in all I think Izotope needs to step up, it already should've happened last year after the release of clarity.
I hope a 'remove ambience' options comes to SL in near future. I like that RX removed the kitchen ambience but it should be option whether to keep or remove when trying to remove other noise. Good video, thanks.
I wonder how well Spectralayers 10 would work instead of using a gate to clean up drum tracks from drum bleed. In other words, taking the individual Kick, snare, and tom tracks and "isolate" them using the drums separation tool.
Sounds like this works great. I still have issues wrapping my brain around AI in audio. If it works, so be it, however if this is feeding the future Terminator series, at least their audio quality will be great. 😮
Yeah in the applications which Spectralayers can do for sure. I prefer the dereverb of RX rx has a lot more specialty modules / plugins which speed up workflow. A lot of that you can actually do in spectralayers with manual editing by the way.
I'm very impressed! With SpectraLayers 10, that is; though your video is also wonderful! I have SpectraLayers Pro 9, so I have an upgrade cost of £68. Interestingly, there is no introductory offer. There wasn't earlier this year for Halion 7 either. In a way, I like that. I don't want to be pressured into buying early in order to save money. But I don't think I can wait too long to upgrade SpectraLayers as these improvements seem to be very good.
@@audiotoolshed nah steinberg give really great upgrade deals, honestly for this reason along with the sheer quality of their products i've got cubase pro, wavelab pro and spectralayers pro 9 I've rarely seen such a responsive and innovative company.
I didnt find i need wavelab pro that much. I have elements laying around which i mostly use for meta data editing, but even that isnt really recquired anymore. For DDP authoring I use the hofa ddp maker. Where do you use Wavelab pro for?
@@audiotoolshedI use it because of the incredible metering systems, modular design and editing features, not to mention the synchronisation with spectra layers to edit sections of the file, the DDP wizard is extremely intuitive and takes 2 seconds to have a ddp image ready. The analysis tool alone is worth the price for me, the ability to go to any stray peaks and attenuate them for manual limiting, the spectral editing build in is great for quick corrections, in wavelab you can have the meters read whatever point that the play head is over which is great for reading values at specific moments in a song. It’s tight integration with cubase means that I can click on a file in cubase and edit it in wavelab with a single press. The error correction features are incredibly easy to use and are extremely powerful. The loudness tab lets me see the the LUFS values over time which can be extremely useful when doing automation in mastering. Honestly for both mastering and general editing needs I’ve yet to find something to comprehensive I could spend a day and a half just listing all of the features and use cases 😂 The Strindberg workflow between all of their products is seamless and it makes me think about navigating the software less and makes me focus on the material I’m working on.
@@audiotoolshed yes I know, great content! I´m interested in Post Pro restauration e.g., and music production, cleaning up audio tracks by hand, special workflow stuff with the new SL 10 and it´s much better algorithms
Totally agree! Its because there's no AU version developed. It would make such a difference, because the RX10 ara2 version is also half assed for logic.
@adithyasatheesh127 It also doesnt work in Protools, because that's aax. Another format. Studio one does not come close in the numbers to what logic has.
Not sure how old you are but do you remember Wave Burner for Logic? Would be great for them to bring that back and incorporate something like these plugins! I'll suggest it to apple.
@DirettoIZM : that's only apple's problem with their monotol behavior. I´m a former hardcore Logic user, now on Cubase 12. And veery happy. Logic lags in so many ways... NO MACROS!! NO plugin search function, latency bug over sidechains, rudimentary unflexible old mixer, clunky automation editing, etc. etc.
@@audiotoolshed RX seemed to remove more of the noise, and I wasn't too bothered by artifacts. But, tbh, the 3 of them do a pretty good job all things considered. Thanks for the video, btw. Very useful
Some pointers: My front wall isnt truly reflection free. It's soffit mount for the speakers and reflects or better said expands the bezel of the speakers which contributes in a very detailed stereo image, at least better than when those speakers where on stands. There is some low end absorbing trickery happening below the speakers with free hanging mini absorbers. You can't see it, it's behind the soffit wall gipsum layer. It's quite a nifty design by john sayers. Side walls directly besides my listening position are angled with broad band helmhortz resonators ( basically different sized gaps with a sealed shared absorbtion panel behind it). They reflect mid to higher frequencies to the back of the room, away from the listening position. The absorption part is for the lower end. Back wall of my room has big corner absorbers, as big as my room would allow and i have the entire ceiling covered with a thick, free hangin absorption cloud which I angled for looks and some more, theoretical, low end absorption. it's not perfect because it's a small room, but I think i managed to get the best results with the space i had to work with. And most of all, mixes and masters i do in there really translate well .
@Barncore I was a big user of RipX, but SL10 is now using the most state of the art AI for unmixing (demux newest version i believe). I tried both RipX and SL10 side by side and SL10 is a bit better now. It's pretty insane
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I have SL10 and RX9 and what I like about the new SL is that it actually gives you separate stems with voice and noise in case you want to use both for whatever reason.
Rx10 vs rx9 is not that much of a difference. Izotope needs to up their game for rx11 I think, spectralayers and waves have surpassed in quality.
Thank you so much!!!!
I am pretty impressed from SL10 and will update my SL8 ... didnt expect that.
Thank you for this one! I do have clarity and RX, but now I will use spectralayer, it offers some good things especially on separating tracks with minimum phase issues. A possible new holy grail jeje
haha, the holy grail untill the next one comes right ;-)
All in all I think Izotope needs to step up, it already should've happened last year after the release of clarity.
@@audiotoolshed jajajja so true!!! Hopefully this does get them to create a better product
We'll see and I'll hope they do. Competition between companies is good for us.
I know you put a lot of time into these videos. Thank you
I try! Thanks man.
I agree, I look forward to seeing a new upload
Great ,wow Spectralaizer
I hope a 'remove ambience' options comes to SL in near future. I like that RX removed the kitchen ambience but it should be option whether to keep or remove when trying to remove other noise. Good video, thanks.
Yeah maybe when you try to dereverb after it can do that. Didnt have the time to check it.
I wonder how well Spectralayers 10 would work instead of using a gate to clean up drum tracks from drum bleed. In other words, taking the individual Kick, snare, and tom tracks and "isolate" them using the drums separation tool.
Sounds like this works great. I still have issues wrapping my brain around AI in audio. If it works, so be it, however if this is feeding the future Terminator series, at least their audio quality will be great. 😮
Or it will sound like 1 million other artist ai ''trained on'' ;-)
I´ve compared Spectralayers 10 with iZotope RX - SL wins. nice times!
Yeah in the applications which Spectralayers can do for sure. I prefer the dereverb of RX rx has a lot more specialty modules / plugins which speed up workflow.
A lot of that you can actually do in spectralayers with manual editing by the way.
I'm very impressed! With SpectraLayers 10, that is; though your video is also wonderful! I have SpectraLayers Pro 9, so I have an upgrade cost of £68. Interestingly, there is no introductory offer. There wasn't earlier this year for Halion 7 either. In a way, I like that. I don't want to be pressured into buying early in order to save money. But I don't think I can wait too long to upgrade SpectraLayers as these improvements seem to be very good.
lol!
Yeah same here, it's 79,99 euros for me. I don't know if Steinberg will do intro offers, haven't seen one on Cubase in ages either.
@@audiotoolshed nah steinberg give really great upgrade deals, honestly for this reason along with the sheer quality of their products i've got cubase pro, wavelab pro and spectralayers pro 9 I've rarely seen such a responsive and innovative company.
I didnt find i need wavelab pro that much. I have elements laying around which i mostly use for meta data editing, but even that isnt really recquired anymore. For DDP authoring I use the hofa ddp maker.
Where do you use Wavelab pro for?
@@audiotoolshedI use it because of the incredible metering systems, modular design and editing features, not to mention the synchronisation with spectra layers to edit sections of the file, the DDP wizard is extremely intuitive and takes 2 seconds to have a ddp image ready. The analysis tool alone is worth the price for me, the ability to go to any stray peaks and attenuate them for manual limiting, the spectral editing build in is great for quick corrections, in wavelab you can have the meters read whatever point that the play head is over which is great for reading values at specific moments in a song.
It’s tight integration with cubase means that I can click on a file in cubase and edit it in wavelab with a single press.
The error correction features are incredibly easy to use and are extremely powerful.
The loudness tab lets me see the the LUFS values over time which can be extremely useful when doing automation in mastering.
Honestly for both mastering and general editing needs I’ve yet to find something to comprehensive I could spend a day and a half just listing all of the features and use cases 😂
The Strindberg workflow between all of their products is seamless and it makes me think about navigating the software less and makes me focus on the material I’m working on.
Unmix feature is impressive!
yeah, absolutely!
hi is there a demo version
I'm getting a big ''404 missing page'' message when i went to the trial of spectralayers, so actually I don't know.
I would love to see more videos about Spectralayers from you!
Thanks! I what way would you love to see more content? I did videos on the version 7, 8 and 9 releases.
@@audiotoolshed yes I know, great content! I´m interested in Post Pro restauration e.g., and music production, cleaning up audio tracks by hand, special workflow stuff with the new SL 10 and it´s much better algorithms
Good suggestions! I'll look what I can do, but no promises on when.
The Lakeside Rock version was the new sense of "weird" word. :-))
Lakeside, or ac/dc ^^
No Spectralayers for Logic Pro is a huge bummer! That noisy speech unmix feature would've made it worth it for me... Very helpful review - Thanks!
Totally agree! Its because there's no AU version developed.
It would make such a difference, because the RX10 ara2 version is also half assed for logic.
Nope. Logic Pro users are a minority compared to Protools or Ableton or Studio One in 2023. You can look it up. Not a bummer ignoring y'all at all.
@adithyasatheesh127 It also doesnt work in Protools, because that's aax. Another format.
Studio one does not come close in the numbers to what logic has.
Not sure how old you are but do you remember Wave Burner for Logic? Would be great for them to bring that back and incorporate something like these plugins! I'll suggest it to apple.
@DirettoIZM : that's only apple's problem with their monotol behavior.
I´m a former hardcore Logic user, now on Cubase 12. And veery happy. Logic lags in so many ways... NO MACROS!! NO plugin search function, latency bug over sidechains, rudimentary unflexible old mixer, clunky automation editing, etc. etc.
I thought rx did best on the kitchen noise removal actually
RX is very artifacty which makes it with this example rather unusable.
@@audiotoolshed RX seemed to remove more of the noise, and I wasn't too bothered by artifacts. But, tbh, the 3 of them do a pretty good job all things considered. Thanks for the video, btw. Very useful
Great video! (again...)
Thanks mike!
Do you have a vid of your studio build? Looks like you have a RF front wall, I’m trying to learn about stuff like that…
No i dont, but my design is mostly based on the ideas of john l sayers: www.johnlsayers.com/
@@audiotoolshed Thanks!
Some pointers: My front wall isnt truly reflection free. It's soffit mount for the speakers and reflects or better said expands the bezel of the speakers which contributes in a very detailed stereo image, at least better than when those speakers where on stands.
There is some low end absorbing trickery happening below the speakers with free hanging mini absorbers.
You can't see it, it's behind the soffit wall gipsum layer.
It's quite a nifty design by john sayers.
Side walls directly besides my listening position are angled with broad band helmhortz resonators ( basically different sized gaps with a sealed shared absorbtion panel behind it).
They reflect mid to higher frequencies to the back of the room, away from the listening position. The absorption part is for the lower end.
Back wall of my room has big corner absorbers, as big as my room would allow and i have the entire ceiling covered with a thick, free hangin absorption cloud which I angled for looks and some more, theoretical, low end absorption.
it's not perfect because it's a small room, but I think i managed to get the best results with the space i had to work with.
And most of all, mixes and masters i do in there really translate well .
@@audiotoolshed Sounds…expensive, lol!
yeah, i got a great deal though. But still, I didnt count the months it took to build it all.
OMG
i just cant get version 8 to work outside cubase..ie in studio one..what am i doing wrong? :(
I don't know, it should come with a standalone version.
Can anyone confirm if it's better at making stems than RipX yet?
Havent done a proper test here yet, sorry.
How does it compare to RipX?
For what exact application? Their use cases are quite different for the largest part.
@@audiotoolshed Extracting the "stems" cleanly. I.e. Unmix>Song tool vs RipX
@Barncore I was a big user of RipX, but SL10 is now using the most state of the art AI for unmixing (demux newest version i believe). I tried both RipX and SL10 side by side and SL10 is a bit better now. It's pretty insane
@@axkldhg3 Cool to hear! Looks like i'll have to take the plunge and buy it
No way !!!
Yes way!
Ok so it doesn’t work with Logic. How about Pro Tools ?
Nope. That's AAX.
Better than RipX?
Yes.
@@rldivide it would be good if it also ripped midi data which RipX also does :)
Except for the unmixing part, they're really different tools with different applications.
....tested spl 10 pro on my friend's comp, ...it has 99 percent the same quality as FADR..but FADR is free...🙄
You're completey ignoring the fact that spectralayers does much much more than that online stems unmix site.
And be wary of how ''free'' it really is.
How does the audio quality of the unmixed stems compare to the original audio part?
You can hear it in the video.
@@audiotoolshed I don’t have high quality monitors here so thought you might provide some feedback
300 bucks!!!!!!!
Ok... 😮😢
Yup.
i LIKE RipX more.
Besides the unmixing features I wouldn’t consider these two to be the same type of software. Very different applications as well.
@@audiotoolshed EXCELLENT COMMENT I'm "afraid" that you are very correct!
Say that more often and feed my ego ;-)
How do I get this for logic pro
You can use it as external editor
What do you think of the Kaotica eyeball especially the Kaotica 7B version? Is it any good?