Wow...I FINALLY heard it! That guy yelling out, "Come on Justine! She's not that good!" 13:49-13:53 I was like wow...Serena kicked ass from that point on. She heard him and admitted in an interview it just pushed her. I'm like wow...go gurl! Lol
People wanna say all Serena possesses is power, but she is an excellent thinker and strategist. Her mental power is so much stronger than the rest of the women and that is why she is one of the greatest of all time! Look @ 8:45, that's advanced strategic positioning and placement. Critics and commentators don't give her that credit like they do other players, but she is just as smart on court as she is powerful.
And Serena had REAL, consistent competition that had not been STABBED --unlike Steffi who didn't have consistent competition that had not been STABBED! See:Monica Seles!
months? Serena has probably missed close to 2-2 1/2 years total when adding up time off for injuries...she missed 11 months from 2010-2011...she missed about 9 months from 2003-2004 after he knee surgery...she played 4 tournament total in 2006 due to injury...i'm amazing when you think about it that she has been able to start and stop her career and has been dominant for several periods in her career
I love how Henin has small body frame but she sure can push Serena around with placement and craft, it really is too bad Henin isn't around anymore because she always challenged Serena and they produced some dramatic, high-quality tennis because they have contrasting styles
I love how Mary Carillo and the crowd was all about Henin only for Serena to prove why she's the best woman on the tour crush their hopes of Henin winning. Serena had had enough of Henin in 2007 and was READY this time..she showed up in shape and with a vengence. Both of these heifers were playing some REAL tennis! I would put Henin as #3 as my all time greats (behind Serena and Venus) she was one hell of a player on the court, but all must bow to the QUEEN! Serena is the GOAT of womens tennis.
I hope so too. I think it's coming. The Serena we have seen throughout most of her comeback since mid-2011 would kill 2002-2003 Serena. This Serena is much smarter, and she would put her past self in a state of panic...2002 Serena would probably get frustrated and start double-faulting...not knowing how to handle a million aces coming at HER, for once lol! I think the ultimate proof that Serena is more complete than she used to be is her huge improvement against backboard players.
Justine is the most formidable female tennis player i've ever had the privilege to see. she's truly a mini-federer. a player like her only happens once in a million times. Technically she's easily one of the greatest ever.
Serena is the greatest player of all time. The other greatest players sat in the stands at two different Wimbledons with their mouths open at Serena's Williams's awesome display of skill. Serena had a RECORD number of aces she placed on a DIME at those Wimbledons. Serena even hit more aces than the winning MALE tennis player during one of those Wimbledons!
I loved this match. Serena was wrapped up like a mommy and couldn't really run that well and Justine had just made it to her first slam right after coming out of taking time off and they went in! Serena used a lot of slicing and dicing in this match and I think that threw Justine for a loop. Justine tried to outhit Serena and that wasn't going to work. I'm surprised Justine didn't do more dropshots and slicing given Serena's condition. Awesome match from both ladies.
Well, there is only one that can beat Serena!!! It's herself!!! Actually, I wish she could maintain her consistency and health. She then will capture a lot more titles from now on.
the only gap in venus' game was her consistency. venus at her best was pretty much unbeatable and unforgiving. i dont remember what year it was but at the wimbledon final that pit her against her sister, serena played unbelievably well and still lost that match in 2 sets.
Bonyos16, you are right. Carillo, in the past, was jaw-droppingly bigoted against Serena. Carillo's husband represented Sharapova and Carillo herself would literally SHILL for Sharapova from the broadcast booth and LIE about the accomplishments of the Williams sisters!!
This match was so important for Serena to win. She had just come off from all the heat of the 2009 US Open with the outburst incident to Clijsters and allowed her to win her comeback slam. If she had lost to Henin (even more of a rival) to allow her to win her own comeback slam, I feel the loss would've really gotten to Serena. Instead she won, shut up all the critics and carried her form to the 2010 Wimbledon until she had injury... and look at her now.
Actually, Serena has a lot more diversity due to the experience she has gained with singles and in doubles. She obviously has a great offensive game, but when she is getting pushed, she can play great defense. I mean look at last years US Open. Vika had Serena running around the court, out wide, inside, service line, and Serena hits a lob over. She has a plan B and a lot of diversity, a lot more than what Sharapova has.Sharapova is a hard hitter but bring her to the net and she can't do anything
?!? Serena Williams is a player of amazing diversity and finesse! From her accurate serves to her topspin lobs to her drop volleys to her return-of-serve to her passing shots, Serena Williams's versatility and skill are unmatched! And Serena beats Kim overall head-to-head!
You cannot say that Henin is mentally tough when Serena came back from matches where her opponents had match points. Henin only manage to defeat Serena because Serena's not at 100%. A 100% Serena will destroy Henin any time.
I AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYONE OUT THERE SAY, SERENA WILLIAMS IS THE GREATEST TENNIS PLAYER OF ALL TIME. SHE FACED UNFAIRNESS RACISM CRITICS INJURIES, WHAT MORE CAN I SAY? SHE ALWAS CAME BACK STRONGER. THATS DEFINE THE GREATEST N THE BEST. TOO BAD VEE HAS THAT BONE DISEASE, SHE WOULD HAVE WON MORE GS BY NOW TOO
I would LOVE to see, in some parallel universe, where 2002-2003 Serena goes against 2012-201X Serena. Serena now is definitely a better tennis player all around except for the loss of foot speed. The scoreline would probably be something like 6-4, 6-4 with 2012-201X Serena winning. Not a total knockout because 2002-2003 Serena has the foot speed to chase down almost anything and get almost everything back but the on court game maturity of Serena now would overcome her. Just pointing it out lol.
Steffi Graf also benefitted from Monica Seles getting stabbed let's not act like this wasn't an important factor for Graf's inflated slam record of 22. If Monica did NOT get stabbed 20 years ago I firmly believe their slam count would have been much closer. The WTA lacked depth in the 1990s it was a joke from 1993 to 1996 it was Graf and the seven dwarfs. I remember Martina Navratilova criticizing Sanchez Vicario, Sabatini, Novotna, Martinez, Mary Joe Fernandez they lacked the power to beat Graf
Everybody's entitled to their opinions, but Justin henin never dominated the tennis whereas serena williams dominated tennis (women) in the last decade. that despite her fitness, illness and family problems. To those who says Henin is more technical you just stating your opinions rather than facts. Henin has sublime backhand, serena has sublime forehand, they're both good a drop shots although serena decreasingly use of that. they both good at spinning the ball, or changing the pace.
huh??? Serena won Wimbledon, Olympic gold, and US Open this year...she is always stopped??? by who? LMAOOOOO...you do realize that Serena has won 9 grand slam titles in the past 8 years and that's b/c she has missed about a year and a half worth of tennis over the last 8 years right??? Serena, has been able to dominate at different point of her career...2002-2003, 2008-2010 (won 5 of 8 grand slams), missed a full year and has won the last 2 grand slams
Serena Williams and Justine Henin are two of the greatest female tennis players to EVER play the game. Justine Henin is the only person who had Serena's number from 2007-before Henin temporarily retired. And we know Serena can handle ANYBODY lol. She dismissed Kvitova and Azarenka from Wimbledon like it was her light work lolol.Her serve...and if you can make it past her serve.her forceful groundstrokes.and if you still dont get blown off the court by her raw hitting power she can move well
Ok give her some credit she MADE alot of them look bad. Not like Evert was beating clay court greats the whole way through her 7 titles. Steffi probably had the most clay competition of all...Seles and Sanchez-Vicario were enough....the problem is that Seles for obvious reasons was only a problem for a couple years (and it was definitely supposed to be more). Even still, Steffi had the most. The fact that Justine is the main reason Serena is not a multi-FO champion already speaks for itself.
Serena wants to win every match........she wants not just to win but beat her opponents bad! If we don't have players like Serena then professional tennis would be just money making beauty contest. Go Serena!!
Mary Carrilo is biased and it's shame she is an American commentator by merits of resume but if you asked she shouldn't be allowed to comment on any game Serena in.
where has justine gone. back when I was a kid she was the number 1 and ppl talking about she had the potential to become goat. where is she at now what happened?
She may have won one more slam in 02, but 2012 Serena (which will hopefully become a 2012 and beyond Serena), is the most complete Serena ever. She may be a STEP slower than over 10 years ago, but every other aspect of her game is better. It's really amazing to watch. Her backhand is about the same, but her serve and forehand are leagues better. Some try to chalk this improvement up to technology and not hard work from Serena, which is complete bullshit. Serena is in her ultimate prime now.
It's not my word, it's Billie Jean King's word. Learn tennis sweetie! Also, just a reminding : "Justine is the player I most like to watch" - John McEnroe Henin's offense is just phenomenal ... it's sort of like we've got 'the female Federer', or maybe the guys have 'the male Justine Henin', because she is just head and shoulders above everyone else right now." - Martina Navratilova. I hope, I helped you to learn tennis a little bit. :))))))))))))))))))))
So happy Serena beat that backstabbing Henin person!! When I think about that horrendous '03 French Open match with that agressive French audience and that nasty Henin person, I feel sick all over again!! This
lol i would be intimidated to play against anyone of these two serena with her blistering serves and come ons and henins explosive movement trying to hit winners past that women is tough this two are pound for pound the best womens players of their generation and all time greats
You clearly don't know tennis, because Serena's technique is textbook both on her serve and return of serve. Why you think Henin is more talented than someone that has won 16 majors is beyone comprehension.
It is definetely right up to Serena when both players are at their best. Henin was fresh and powerful in 2010 season beginning. Serena was starting to develop the lethal serve she owns now and it is throughout the third set that it becomes obvious. Serena was just too much for Justine afterall
"Mary Carrilo is biased" Most American commentators are. When Sabine Lisicki beat Serena at Wimbledon she didn't get much credit for it, it was all about what Serena didn't do.
At 13:51 "Come on Justine, she's not that good!" Big LOL. "She" did win that match. "She" has 17 Grand Slam titles, including all surfaces. "She" is 8-6 head-to-head vs Justine. Some people should have their tongue cut out. hahahaha :-D
Henin more talented than Serena? What the fuck are these people smoking? If Serena was only a ball basher she would've been caught out a long time ago. It's called variety with power. The WTA has got plenty of ball bashers and look where they at?
You've got a point. As a matter of fact Serena's mentioned this guy's comment on Elle's show, and said exactly that: that she has used it as motivation! You know what we could do? We could go there every slam final or semifinal and scream "Come on (whoever), she's not that good!!!!" hahahaha :-D
?! Serena won everything on clay Last Year except the French Open before she even took on Patrick as coach! And Serena won the French Open back when her parents were her only coaches! And anyone who watched Serena's gorgeous topspin lob, etc. when she beat Steffi Graf at Indian Wells (when Serena was Just 17 years-old) knows that Serena has Always been "complete!"
What you said may have been true ten years ago. Even three years ago but lately Serena has been much more versatile with her shots. But I really don't understand why people are so into looking backward. Serena can beat everyone when she is on. That diversity you mentioned will never be enough against players at Serena's Level.
I agree. Nick Bollettieri tweeted during the FO that Sharapova only knows one way to play: hit the ball as hard as she can. IMO, her 1 dimensional game is what most people mistake as mental toughness. 1) Serena owns her 2) She DF excessively in big matches against top players 3) She's never come back from match point down against a top player 4) She's never defended a slam 5) she's never won more than 1 slam a year and never won a slam the year after winning one. Doesn't imply mental toughness
There are many cases for Serena as GOAT but THANK YOU CHRIS FOWLER FOR THAT LAST STATISTIC S.Williams better winning % at Slam Finals than.... S.Graff R.Federer C.Evert M.Navratilova Oh not to mention 100% in doubles finals (13/13)
You can say Henin is more talented when she cheated her wins. Is that part of the rule book? Cheating? More talented than someone who has won 16 slams? Really? You'd think someone SO talented would have more slam then.
Carillo has gotten better of late. But that is mainly, I think, because Serena kept winning despite gargantuan obstacles. It will take a lot more objectivity from her-- for a change-- to overcome some of the brazenly bigoted negativity toward the Williamses earlier, though.
Lol Serena wins with her muscles? Keep being pressed and angry. The same Bille Jean King always calls Serena the best player of all time (which she isn't, Graf is). And Serena won grand slams before the belgian. When was the last time Henin and her gamesmanship won wimbledon? Wait she never did lol lol. learn tennis sweetie
? She's no. 4 and climbing.... She started before Justine, and she's still here, unlike Justine. I actually think Serena has about 4-5 more years on tour than Justine (not counting the many months missed due to injury). So it is probably you who needs to get it straight.
Serena didn't dominate that 2000's? 2002-2003 is when she won 4 grand slam titles in a row and 5 out of 6 grand slam titles...she then was out for about 9 months after having surgery on her knee in late 2003...she won the Australian Open in 2005 then then was out for a great part of the next two years due to injury...matter of fact, Serena only played 4 tournaments total in 2006.Navratilova has said Serena is the best, John McEnroe says Serena is the best female player ever, Justine is not there
i don't give a fuck about what those people think, you talk about the same Mc Enroe who keeps saying that Serena is the greatest of all-time lol. His opinions are always changing. The matter is Serena leads the head to head and has more grand slams so has a better career. Good for Henin for playing like Federer, but the TRUTH IS A PLAYER FROM HER OWN GENERATION HAS ACHIEVED MORE.
Billie Jean King - a former world no.1 says that Juju is best of her generation.So who cares about your and all the other tennis ignorants' opinions?In current WTA,there's no player who can compete with Serena and her muscles consistently so Serena wins without fatiguing thanks to her muscles. But it was not like this in past.Juju has always competed with Serena and her muscles consistently and she is the reason why Serena couldn't dominate 2000s from soup to nuts.Now, no rivals and Serena wins.
I do think at her best venus is better. but I think as to who desserve more credits, its justine. She is way more consistent then Venus, and Venus most of the time is kind of annoying to watch. When a match got competitive she lost most of the time and thats the reason why I stop rooting for her. Justine is probably stronger mentally. So to mem Justine desserve more credits then Venus.
Damn....people seem to have forgetten about Venus Williams. I'll take Justine on the other side of the net over Venus ANY day (except maybe on clay). Venus at her best is leagues above Justine. Justine edges Venus only in abilities across all surfaces and no. 1 ranking duration...Venus beats her everywhere else. It's Serena, Venus, and THEN Justine....even most experts agree, and it saddens me that so many people on this site do not agree as well.
LMAO, those white players always have all the crowd cheerin for them but they don't even win...congrats to my legends vebnus n serena for makin history !!! stronger than ever..they are the best tennis players of this generation. justin is a nobody who lacks consistency
because that was a break point and justine had it on the bag but the point had to be replayed because of that miscall. serena aced justine and held her service instead so the crowd felt like justine was screwed over by that line judge and she was
Bille Jean King said what we didn't even see all the tape and strapping Serena had going on in this match...she went to visit Serena in the locker room before the match and said she was taped and strapped all over lol
Had they met more I feel like it would be ugly for justine honestly, serena was much scarier in wimbledon, i still dnt know how she won this tournament because I know she wasnt 100 percent on healthly
what are you talking about, justine would never, she's such a classy lady. i dunno what you're referring to. justine is probably the only woman serena has ever been afraid of
Someone needs to get Carillo off of commentating for anything with the Williams sisters in it. She's so bias against them, it's ridiculous. I hate her.
This was the sweetest victory for Serena especially after RG2004 ..so happy for her, Serena's the best of her generation, Henin & Clijsters doesn't come close!
Venus and Justine were such great players especially Serena... Sharapova has 4 slams now... Justine and Venus both have 7... it looks like Sharapova will win at least 8.. because she's still young and is playing very well.... once she passes Venus and Justine would people see her as the better player because she won more slams than both Venus and Justine?
Steffi did not have a lot of skilled tennis player during her time while Serena had to deal with Devenport, Venus, Sharapova, Henin, Azarenka, Capriati, just to name a few.
Wow...I FINALLY heard it! That guy yelling out, "Come on Justine! She's not that good!" 13:49-13:53 I was like wow...Serena kicked ass from that point on. She heard him and admitted in an interview it just pushed her. I'm like wow...go gurl! Lol
13:50 someone says "come on Justine she's not that good!" THAT my friends is when justine lost the match!
People wanna say all Serena possesses is power, but she is an excellent thinker and strategist. Her mental power is so much stronger than the rest of the women and that is why she is one of the greatest of all time! Look @ 8:45, that's advanced strategic positioning and placement. Critics and commentators don't give her that credit like they do other players, but she is just as smart on court as she is powerful.
And Serena had REAL, consistent competition that had not been STABBED --unlike Steffi who didn't have consistent competition that had not been STABBED! See:Monica Seles!
Henin's backhand is just sublime
Funny how Serena was severely injured throughout this entire tournament and still won it....
Wow, I cannot believe you just said that. Mentally, Serena is one of the toughest athletes ever.
months? Serena has probably missed close to 2-2 1/2 years total when adding up time off for injuries...she missed 11 months from 2010-2011...she missed about 9 months from 2003-2004 after he knee surgery...she played 4 tournament total in 2006 due to injury...i'm amazing when you think about it that she has been able to start and stop her career and has been dominant for several periods in her career
If Justine came back, she wouldn't be able to beat on-fire Serena right now!!!!
I love how Henin has small body frame but she sure can push Serena around with placement and craft, it really is too bad Henin isn't around anymore because she always challenged Serena and they produced some dramatic, high-quality tennis because they have contrasting styles
I love how Mary Carillo and the crowd was all about Henin only for Serena to prove why she's the best woman on the tour crush their hopes of Henin winning. Serena had had enough of Henin in 2007 and was READY this time..she showed up in shape and with a vengence. Both of these heifers were playing some REAL tennis! I would put Henin as #3 as my all time greats (behind Serena and Venus) she was one hell of a player on the court, but all must bow to the QUEEN! Serena is the GOAT of womens tennis.
Serena feeds on negativity. You'd think they''ve learned that
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I hope so too. I think it's coming.
The Serena we have seen throughout most of her comeback since mid-2011 would kill 2002-2003 Serena.
This Serena is much smarter, and she would put her past self in a state of panic...2002 Serena would probably get frustrated and start double-faulting...not knowing how to handle a million aces coming at HER, for once lol!
I think the ultimate proof that Serena is more complete than she used to be is her huge improvement against backboard players.
perfect example of serena's mental toughness love her!
Justine is the most formidable female tennis player i've ever had the privilege to see. she's truly a mini-federer. a player like her only happens once in a million times. Technically she's easily one of the greatest ever.
Serena is the greatest player of all time. The other greatest players sat in the stands at two different Wimbledons with their mouths open at Serena's Williams's awesome display of skill. Serena had a RECORD number of aces she placed on a DIME at those Wimbledons. Serena even hit more aces than the winning MALE tennis player during one of those Wimbledons!
Serena Williams IS tennis.
I loved this match. Serena was wrapped up like a mommy and couldn't really run that well and Justine had just made it to her first slam right after coming out of taking time off and they went in! Serena used a lot of slicing and dicing in this match and I think that threw Justine for a loop. Justine tried to outhit Serena and that wasn't going to work. I'm surprised Justine didn't do more dropshots and slicing given Serena's condition. Awesome match from both ladies.
Henin has a better volley than Serena.
serena shrieks an awful lot too
Well, there is only one that can beat Serena!!!
It's herself!!! Actually, I wish she could maintain her consistency and health. She then will capture a lot more titles from now on.
the only gap in venus' game was her consistency. venus at her best was pretty much unbeatable and unforgiving. i dont remember what year it was but at the wimbledon final that pit her against her sister, serena played unbelievably well and still lost that match in 2 sets.
Bonyos16, you are right. Carillo, in the past, was jaw-droppingly bigoted against Serena. Carillo's husband represented Sharapova and Carillo herself would literally SHILL for Sharapova from the broadcast booth and LIE about the accomplishments of the Williams sisters!!
This match was so important for Serena to win. She had just come off from all the heat of the 2009 US Open with the outburst incident to Clijsters and allowed her to win her comeback slam. If she had lost to Henin (even more of a rival) to allow her to win her own comeback slam, I feel the loss would've really gotten to Serena.
Instead she won, shut up all the critics and carried her form to the 2010 Wimbledon until she had injury...
and look at her now.
amazing match between the best server and best single-backhander in women's tennis.. i hope to watch them in an exhibition match...
Actually, Serena has a lot more diversity due to the experience she has gained with singles and in doubles. She obviously has a great offensive game, but when she is getting pushed, she can play great defense. I mean look at last years US Open. Vika had Serena running around the court, out wide, inside, service line, and Serena hits a lob over. She has a plan B and a lot of diversity, a lot more than what Sharapova has.Sharapova is a hard hitter but bring her to the net and she can't do anything
?!? Serena Williams is a player of amazing diversity and finesse! From her accurate serves to her topspin lobs to her drop volleys to her return-of-serve to her passing shots, Serena Williams's versatility and skill are unmatched! And Serena beats Kim overall head-to-head!
You cannot say that Henin is mentally tough when Serena came back from matches where her opponents had match points. Henin only manage to defeat Serena because Serena's not at 100%. A 100% Serena will destroy Henin any time.
I AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYONE OUT THERE SAY, SERENA WILLIAMS IS THE GREATEST TENNIS PLAYER OF ALL TIME. SHE FACED UNFAIRNESS RACISM CRITICS INJURIES, WHAT MORE CAN I SAY? SHE ALWAS CAME BACK STRONGER. THATS DEFINE THE GREATEST N THE BEST. TOO BAD VEE HAS THAT BONE DISEASE, SHE WOULD HAVE WON MORE GS BY NOW TOO
I would LOVE to see, in some parallel universe, where 2002-2003 Serena goes against 2012-201X Serena. Serena now is definitely a better tennis player all around except for the loss of foot speed. The scoreline would probably be something like 6-4, 6-4 with 2012-201X Serena winning. Not a total knockout because 2002-2003 Serena has the foot speed to chase down almost anything and get almost everything back but the on court game maturity of Serena now would overcome her. Just pointing it out lol.
Steffi Graf also benefitted from Monica Seles getting stabbed let's not act like this wasn't an important factor for Graf's inflated slam record of 22. If Monica did NOT get stabbed 20 years ago I firmly believe their slam count would have been much closer. The WTA lacked depth in the 1990s it was a joke from 1993 to 1996 it was Graf and the seven dwarfs. I remember Martina Navratilova criticizing Sanchez Vicario, Sabatini, Novotna, Martinez, Mary Joe Fernandez they lacked the power to beat Graf
Everybody's entitled to their opinions, but Justin henin never dominated the tennis whereas serena williams dominated tennis (women) in the last decade. that despite her fitness, illness and family problems.
To those who says Henin is more technical you just stating your opinions rather than facts. Henin has sublime backhand, serena has sublime forehand, they're both good a drop shots although serena decreasingly use of that. they both good at spinning the ball, or changing the pace.
huh??? Serena won Wimbledon, Olympic gold, and US Open this year...she is always stopped??? by who? LMAOOOOO...you do realize that Serena has won 9 grand slam titles in the past 8 years and that's b/c she has missed about a year and a half worth of tennis over the last 8 years right??? Serena, has been able to dominate at different point of her career...2002-2003, 2008-2010 (won 5 of 8 grand slams), missed a full year and has won the last 2 grand slams
Serena Williams and Justine Henin are two of the greatest female tennis players to EVER play the game. Justine Henin is the only person who had Serena's number from 2007-before Henin temporarily retired. And we know Serena can handle ANYBODY lol. She dismissed Kvitova and Azarenka from Wimbledon like it was her light work lolol.Her serve...and if you can make it past her serve.her forceful groundstrokes.and if you still dont get blown off the court by her raw hitting power she can move well
The commentators got so happy when Henin started taking control. Then Serena shut them right up!
Ok give her some credit she MADE alot of them look bad.
Not like Evert was beating clay court greats the whole way through her 7 titles.
Steffi probably had the most clay competition of all...Seles and Sanchez-Vicario were enough....the problem is that Seles for obvious reasons was only a problem for a couple years (and it was definitely supposed to be more). Even still, Steffi had the most.
The fact that Justine is the main reason Serena is not a multi-FO champion already speaks for itself.
At 4:20 is there anything the umpire could have said to not get booed?
Serena wants to win every match........she wants not just to win but beat her opponents bad! If we don't have players like Serena then professional tennis would be just money making beauty contest. Go Serena!!
Mary Carrilo is biased and it's shame she is an American commentator by merits of resume but if you asked she shouldn't be allowed to comment on any game Serena in.
where has justine gone. back when I was a kid she was the number 1 and ppl talking about she had the potential to become goat. where is she at now what happened?
She may have won one more slam in 02, but 2012 Serena (which will hopefully become a 2012 and beyond Serena), is the most complete Serena ever.
She may be a STEP slower than over 10 years ago, but every other aspect of her game is better.
It's really amazing to watch.
Her backhand is about the same, but her serve and forehand are leagues better.
Some try to chalk this improvement up to technology and not hard work from Serena, which is complete bullshit.
Serena is in her ultimate prime now.
Agreed...didn't really notice the FH grip change though. It was only obvious that something had been done to get it more consistent.
It's not my word, it's Billie Jean King's word. Learn tennis sweetie!
Also, just a reminding : "Justine is the player I most like to watch" - John McEnroe
Henin's offense is just phenomenal ... it's sort of like we've got 'the female Federer', or maybe the guys have 'the male Justine Henin', because she is just head and shoulders above everyone else right now." - Martina Navratilova.
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Too bad this is the only time they met in Justine's comeback!
So happy Serena beat that backstabbing Henin person!! When I think about that horrendous '03 French Open match with that agressive French audience and that nasty Henin person, I feel sick all over again!! This
lol i would be intimidated to play against anyone of these two serena with her blistering serves and come ons and henins explosive movement trying to hit winners past that women is tough this two are pound for pound the best womens players of their generation and all time greats
You clearly don't know tennis, because Serena's technique is textbook both on her serve and return of serve. Why you think Henin is more talented than someone that has won 16 majors is beyone comprehension.
I liked here that Serena punished Henin, payback for Henin's cheating at the French Open 04
It is definetely right up to Serena when both players are at their best. Henin was fresh and powerful in 2010 season beginning. Serena was starting to develop the lethal serve she owns now and it is throughout the third set that it becomes obvious.
Serena was just too much for Justine afterall
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"Mary Carrilo is biased" Most American commentators are. When Sabine Lisicki beat Serena at Wimbledon she didn't get much credit for it, it was all about what Serena didn't do.
Funny for me to compare Henin and Serena technique. You think Serena is more technical player?
At 13:51 "Come on Justine, she's not that good!"
Big LOL. "She" did win that match. "She" has 17 Grand Slam titles, including all surfaces. "She" is 8-6 head-to-head vs Justine.
Some people should have their tongue cut out. hahahaha :-D
Nah, let them seethe. Serena uses it as motivation and keeps piling up more slams.
Henin more talented than Serena? What the fuck are these people smoking? If Serena was only a ball basher she would've been caught out a long time ago. It's called variety with power. The WTA has got plenty of ball bashers and look where they at?
You've got a point. As a matter of fact Serena's mentioned this guy's comment on Elle's show, and said exactly that: that she has used it as motivation!
You know what we could do? We could go there every slam final or semifinal and scream "Come on (whoever), she's not that good!!!!" hahahaha :-D
?! Serena won everything on clay Last Year except the French Open before she even took on Patrick as coach! And Serena won the French Open back when her parents were her only coaches! And anyone who watched Serena's gorgeous topspin lob, etc. when she beat Steffi Graf at Indian Wells (when Serena was Just 17 years-old) knows that Serena has Always been "complete!"
Every final with serena is exciting!
What you said may have been true ten years ago. Even three years ago but lately Serena has been much more versatile with her shots. But I really don't understand why people are so into looking backward. Serena can beat everyone when she is on.
That diversity you mentioned will never be enough against players at Serena's Level.
I agree. Nick Bollettieri tweeted during the FO that Sharapova only knows one way to play: hit the ball as hard as she can. IMO, her 1 dimensional game is what most people mistake as mental toughness. 1) Serena owns her 2) She DF excessively in big matches against top players 3) She's never come back from match point down against a top player 4) She's never defended a slam 5) she's never won more than 1 slam a year and never won a slam the year after winning one. Doesn't imply mental toughness
Mary Jo was getting excited when serena was getting beat. But she quiet down when she up her game. Can you say bias
And Serena was injured for much of '07!
Henin is a great cheat. And you know what? Thanks to RUclips, everyone will never forget what kind of a cheat she is.
There are many cases for Serena as GOAT but
THANK YOU CHRIS FOWLER FOR THAT LAST STATISTIC
S.Williams better winning % at Slam Finals than....
S.Graff
R.Federer
C.Evert
M.Navratilova
Oh not to mention 100% in doubles finals (13/13)
serena williams the best ever
Justine Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee come back, today nobody can fight Serena..
LOL wutt?! Serena has more slams = she is better. Bye
i thought justine was robbed by the lineswoman at that break point at 3-1
You can say Henin is more talented when she cheated her wins. Is that part of the rule book? Cheating? More talented than someone who has won 16 slams? Really? You'd think someone SO talented would have more slam then.
Carillo has gotten better of late. But that is mainly, I think, because Serena kept winning despite gargantuan obstacles. It will take a lot more objectivity from her-- for a change-- to overcome some of the brazenly bigoted negativity toward the Williamses earlier, though.
Sharapova is good, really really good when she's on BUT NO WAY IN HELL she's even gonna win 8 slams, no way lol
Lol Serena wins with her muscles? Keep being pressed and angry. The same Bille Jean King always calls Serena the best player of all time (which she isn't, Graf is). And Serena won grand slams before the belgian. When was the last time Henin and her gamesmanship won wimbledon? Wait she never did lol lol. learn tennis sweetie
This is real tennis.It becomes scarce these days --'
SERENA WILLIAMS IS THE GREATEST WOMENS TENNIS PLAYER OF ALL TIME
Sorry to burst your bubble, but no way is Henin among the greatest. Talented yes, among the greatest no.
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She's no. 4 and climbing....
She started before Justine, and she's still here, unlike Justine.
I actually think Serena has about 4-5 more years on tour than Justine (not counting the many months missed due to injury).
So it is probably you who needs to get it straight.
Serena didn't dominate that 2000's? 2002-2003 is when she won 4 grand slam titles in a row and 5 out of 6 grand slam titles...she then was out for about 9 months after having surgery on her knee in late 2003...she won the Australian Open in 2005 then then was out for a great part of the next two years due to injury...matter of fact, Serena only played 4 tournaments total in 2006.Navratilova has said Serena is the best, John McEnroe says Serena is the best female player ever, Justine is not there
21 Grand Slam titles in ten years, Graf.
The only advantage I would give Justine is her backhand which is superb and I would say she is better at the net than serena.
i don't give a fuck about what those people think, you talk about the same Mc Enroe who keeps saying that Serena is the greatest of all-time lol. His opinions are always changing. The matter is Serena leads the head to head and has more grand slams so has a better career. Good for Henin for playing like Federer, but the TRUTH IS A PLAYER FROM HER OWN GENERATION HAS ACHIEVED MORE.
Billie Jean King - a former world no.1 says that Juju is best of her generation.So who cares about your and all the other tennis ignorants' opinions?In current WTA,there's no player who can compete with Serena and her muscles consistently so Serena wins without fatiguing thanks to her muscles. But it was not like this in past.Juju has always competed with Serena and her muscles consistently and she is the reason why Serena couldn't dominate 2000s from soup to nuts.Now, no rivals and Serena wins.
I do think at her best venus is better. but I think as to who desserve more credits, its justine. She is way more consistent then Venus, and Venus most of the time is kind of annoying to watch. When a match got competitive she lost most of the time and thats the reason why I stop rooting for her. Justine is probably stronger mentally. So to mem Justine desserve more credits then Venus.
Damn....people seem to have forgetten about Venus Williams.
I'll take Justine on the other side of the net over Venus ANY day (except maybe on clay).
Venus at her best is leagues above Justine.
Justine edges Venus only in abilities across all surfaces and no. 1 ranking duration...Venus beats her everywhere else.
It's Serena, Venus, and THEN Justine....even most experts agree, and it saddens me that so many people on this site do not agree as well.
LMAO, those white players always have all the crowd cheerin for them but they don't even win...congrats to my legends vebnus n serena for makin history !!! stronger than ever..they are the best tennis players of this generation. justin is a nobody who lacks consistency
What did Mary Carillo say about Serena's sister?
because that was a break point and justine had it on the bag but the point had to be replayed because of that miscall. serena aced justine and held her service instead so the crowd felt like justine was screwed over by that line judge and she was
Bille Jean King said what we didn't even see all the tape and strapping Serena had going on in this match...she went to visit Serena in the locker room before the match and said she was taped and strapped all over lol
Had they met more I feel like it would be ugly for justine honestly, serena was much scarier in wimbledon, i still dnt know how she won this tournament because I know she wasnt 100 percent on healthly
what are you talking about, justine would never, she's such a classy lady. i dunno what you're referring to. justine is probably the only woman serena has ever been afraid of
Someone needs to get Carillo off of commentating for anything with the Williams sisters in it. She's so bias against them, it's ridiculous. I hate her.
not as long as Serena is healthy. Maria's grass game a sucked for years now. There is not way on earth she is beating a healthy Serena on grass.
This was the sweetest victory for Serena especially after RG2004 ..so happy for her, Serena's the best of her generation, Henin & Clijsters doesn't come close!
Venus and Justine were such great players especially Serena... Sharapova has 4 slams now... Justine and Venus both have 7... it looks like Sharapova will win at least 8.. because she's still young and is playing very well.... once she passes Venus and Justine would people see her as the better player because she won more slams than both Venus and Justine?
Steffi did not have a lot of skilled tennis player during her time while Serena had to deal with Devenport, Venus, Sharapova, Henin, Azarenka, Capriati, just to name a few.
I miss Ju-Ju, great vid SerenaSlam13, thx!
no she retired again later that year coz her results were falling shorter than she had anticipated
either way, this final was way better than last year's
Wrong! But that's your opinion. U obviously haven't watched many Serena Williams matches during her incredible career? So, I forgive your ignorance.
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