Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age - What Jobs I Chose And Why

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  • @falafelbil455
    @falafelbil455 3 года назад +122

    Remember starting the game and being very overwhelmed with which class to give each character and then having to do like an hour of research just to be extra sure 😂

    • @korgy321
      @korgy321 3 года назад +7

      This is what I'm doing right now lol. What did you end up choosing?

    • @falafelbil455
      @falafelbil455 3 года назад +3

      @@korgy321 tryna remember but i think i ended up doing
      Vaan: bushi/knight
      Balthier: shikari/foebreaker
      Fran: archer/redmage
      Basch: time battlemage/uhlan
      Ashe: white mage/machnist
      Penelo: black mage/monk

    • @PhoenixEnforcer101
      @PhoenixEnforcer101 Год назад +3

      This is me right now lol

    • @roleemack1535
      @roleemack1535 Год назад +1

      @@PhoenixEnforcer101 same still I wanna make sure as well

    • @nezkeys79
      @nezkeys79 Год назад +3

      Probably a monumental waste of time to spend hours over thinking it now because you can respec at Montblanc. As Primal said you can beat the main game easily with any combo

  • @zekkavo9904
    @zekkavo9904 7 лет назад +102

    I used all 12 because I wanted to, but I optimized for weapon animation speed. Classes that use heavy and mystic armor will hit 99 in STR and MAG respectively. Mind you the frame differences are minimal but I considered how the character's natural stats work out so this seems like a good way to min/max with all classes. I'll post the link to the spreadsheet I found with all of the data when I get to my desktop.
    Vaan - Knight/Machinist
    Balthier - Shikari/Breaker
    Basch - Bushi/Uhlan
    Fran - Monk/Black Mage
    Ashe - White Mage/Time Mage
    Penelo - Red Mage/Archer
    And regarding the weapon speeds based off of the spread sheet, they seem accurate (I tested/tried them out on the PS2 version of the game where you can use any weapon type).
    I picked them relatively in order below.
    Personal reasoning:
    Vaan - He is the Jack of all stats. He is extremely fast with both 1h and 2h swords and considering that Knight has access to some white magic as well, Knight just seemed like a perfect fit. Machinist was a bit of a throwaway class. Guns are great early on but fall off in the endgame so I just picked Vaan because it was left over. That being said, Machinist is a good utility class for technicks and potion/remedy lores.
    Balthier - Using Ninja Swords on Balthier because his weapon speed and natural speed stat are best suited for the weapon. Picked Breaker for heavy armor. Might use Balthier as a Main Gauche tank for certain bosses as well of course.
    Basch - Basch is extremely fast with most weapon types; he is a former soldier after all. Like the others before, I went for Bushi because Basch's katana animation speed and natural STR stat. Uhlan is mainly for the heavy armor but I can have Basch switch to spears if needed.
    Fran - She is interesting because she's the Master of None. I wasn't sure what to do with her at first, her natural STR isn't as good as the boys but her natural MAG isn't as good as the other girls. I figured
    to give her Monk because her poles speed was the best and I could make her a high health tank earlier on (and to great effect) and I could use her for side heals with cura and curaja being available. I put her on Black Mage because Monk tends to not use MP and once her health is high enough I can switch her to Mystic Robes. I also set up gambits for her to use aoe spells when there's multiple enemies so she's a multi enemy sweeper in that regard.
    Penelo - Most of her weapon speeds are pretty bad compared to everyone else. Ninja swords are one of her good weapon types but Balthier's already taken it. As for ranged weapons, bows are the only ranged weapons that she uses at a decent animation speed and unfortunately Penny's natural speed isn't great. Either way, that meant Archer. Honestly for me, Red mage and White Mage felt interchangeable, it would just change which team I'd have them on (I use all 6 characters equally). I went for Red Mage and Mystic robes for Penny. Bows do decent damage so I can keep her at range as she heals plus Archer has some nice utility as well. I might switch her back to maces after I get Bubble/Bubble belts but keeping her ata range keeps her safe. She's her team's main healer and it's gone well so far. She's on the same team as Fran who can learn Cura and Curaja and Balthier who has Remedy Lores so most of my bases are covered.
    Ashe - Like I said in Penny's section I could've inverted Red and White mage but considering I already made that decision I put Ashe on WM and TM. Ashe's natural STR is pretty good so TM's crossbows would work out well and her animation speed with it is fine as well. Obviously, her natural magic is [I believe] the best, so WM is a perfect fit. Ashe will be mainly wearing Mystic armor but I might switch her to a frontline Greatsword/Sword brawler if get the specific espers. Currently on a team w/ Vaan and Basch.
    Might switch teams for endgame/post game but just to repeat the teams:
    Team 1: Vaan Basch Ashe
    Team A: Balthier Fran Penelo
    And like I said I try to keep teams even level-wise.

    • @zekkavo9904
      @zekkavo9904 7 лет назад +37

      Sorry, didn't mean to write an essay but I am pretty damn passionate about this game lmao. Just really glad they gave a childhood favorite a remaster with a beautiful rework.

    • @ryanespinosa1787
      @ryanespinosa1787 4 года назад +3

      Thanks man. Great guide

    • @kammyabhainn3053
      @kammyabhainn3053 4 года назад

      A V You saved me a lot of time my friend thank you 😊

    • @DatAznGamer
      @DatAznGamer 4 года назад

      @@zekkavo9904 how tf you switch jobs? I might use this strat

    • @joeyjose727
      @joeyjose727 4 года назад +2

      Giau Le talk to the moogle Montblanc in the Rabanastre clan centurio hall, it’s in the nothernmost area on the left

  • @kennethmckeel8500
    @kennethmckeel8500 3 года назад +10

    Two teams: (1) Vaan Bushi-Shikari
    Balthier Machinist-Red Mage
    Penelo Monk-Black Mage
    (2) Basch Knight-Foebreaker
    Fran Archer-Time Mage
    Ashe White Mage-Uhlan
    In my opinion this is the most balanced overpowered job setup using all 12 jobs that can be created. A very strong tank for each group, a Hastega caster for each group, and a powerful healer for each group that can also hold their own with physical attacks as well. This is very balanced as group one has a combo oriented tank with potent offensive magic users as well. While group two has the ultimate strength oriented tank as well as a White Mage capable of 15,000-20,000hp attacks depending on equipment. Feel free to try this setup out.

  • @blue-phoenix115
    @blue-phoenix115 5 лет назад +16

    Vaan: White/Shikari (Great tank/support with high MP & HP)
    Balthier: Time/Shikari (Best ninja sword attacker + Haste & Float for party #1)
    Fran: Monk/Time (Best pole attacker + another Haste + Float for party #2)
    Basch: Knight/Bushi (Best kitana attacker + Good healer + Access to Faith and Bravery)
    Ashe: BM/Monk (Highest Magic stat + Great Healer + Late game juggernaut with Scathe)
    Penelo: RBM/Archer (Highest Damage output: Burning Bow + Ardor = One shot mobs)
    *All the abilities are spread out, makes game play more smooth and efficient*
    -Everyone but Basch can cast Green Magic, meaning everyone else can cast Bubble and Reverse
    -Everyone has MAX swiftness.
    -Everyone can equip 2 types of gear
    -Everyone has high HP
    -Everyone can cast spells and buffs so you don't rely on one person, thus saves a lot of time.

  • @ObeyCamp
    @ObeyCamp 2 года назад +19

    Man, this is EXACTLY the video I've been looking for. This is extremely helpful to a new player like me and having this kind of structure and guidance gives me a confidence I wouldn't be able to develop for a long time, and would probably make a lot of stupid and wasteful mistakes before that point. I'll experiment on my second playthrough after I have a better understanding and enough experience to know what experimenting will be worth it, but for my first playthrough I really want to have a good and powerful experience without countless noob mistakes.
    Thank you!

  • @hanhan9487
    @hanhan9487 6 лет назад +152

    enough thinking im going with this guy setup

  • @Doctor_Logic
    @Doctor_Logic 7 лет назад +4

    Vaan: Bushi + White Mage
    Balthier: Machinist + Foebreaker
    Fran: Archer + Red Battlemage
    Basch: Knight + Uhlan
    Ashe: Time Battlemage + Monk
    Penelo: Shikari + Black Mage
    My team goes by an opposites attract strategy. For starters each job represents a Zodiac Sign, each Zodiac Sign represents an Esper, each Esper represents an Element, and each Element has a weakness i.e. Opposites Attract.
    I give Balthier, Fran, Basch, and Penelo the jobs that uses the weapons they're introduced with. Ashe's character profile gave me the idea of Time Battlemage. Which left Bushi for Vaan.
    I give the Espers of the game to the characters whose job corresponds with the Zodiac Sign they represent.
    Vaan's jobs Bushi and White Mage represent Aquarius and Aries which represent Famfrit and Belias so you've got the opposites Water and Fire. This also works with Basch's jobs Knight and Uhlan that represent Leo and Taurus which represent Hashmal and Chaos which give you the opposites Earth and Wind or better yet Order and Chaos. Then you've got Penelo's jobs Shikari and Black Mage that represent Pisces and Capricorn which represent Mateus and Adrammelech which give you the opposites Ice and Lightning.
    Balthier's jobs Machinist and Foebreaker represent Gemini and Scorpio which represent Zalera and Cúchulainn. This doesn't create elemental opposites it's more of a combo like Death of the Impure, or Impure Death.
    Fran's jobs Archer and Red Battlemage represent Sagittarius and Cancer which represent Shemhazai and Zeromus. Again this is more of a combo like Whispers of the Condemner, or Condemned of the Whisperer.
    Ashe's jobs Time Battlemage and Monk represent Libra and Monk which represent Exodus and Ultima. At first there is nothing with these two but eventually you create both opposites and a combo. I also give Zodiark to Ashe so with Ultima you've got the opposites Light and Darkness, and since Libra is known as the scales with Exodus you've also got a combo I like to call The balance of Light and Darkness.
    The license boards work well with each other, and the Esper license's unlock some good stuff as well.

    • @jayaquitania2797
      @jayaquitania2797 7 лет назад

      Doctor Logic exaclty what i was looking for. Thanks alot and btw the way you explained it was so interesting and add a much deeper element to it.

  • @FaeriichanII
    @FaeriichanII 5 лет назад +19

    If I had to use all 12 jobs, I'd go with this as a setup:
    - Knight/Bushi - too good to not have. I'd give this to one of the guys.
    - Red Battlemage/Shikari -flexible. Can tank, heal, or dps as needed. With Germinas Boots and Yagyu, will be a decent Yiazmat killer (though not as efficient as Bushi/Shikari, as least this combo is fairly useful for the majority of the game, unlike BUS/SHI which will be berserked most of the time you use it...). Anyone could do this job well, but as a personal preference, I'd use either Vaan, Balthier, or Penelo.
    - Monk/Time Battlemage - with one Esper, this character has access to all breaks. With more Esper support, this character becomes an excellent supporter for any team. Monk loves TBM's heavy armor. Only downsides are the number of Espers needed to reach full potential and lack of mystic armor. I'd give this either to Vaan or any of the girls (for their higher magic stats), though it should be noted that Fran is the quickest when using poles.
    - Uhlan/Archer - an early beast, good at targeting enemy weaknesses, gets all item lores. Uhlan is lacking in Technicks, but Archer has lots of those. I'd use anyone for this except Ashe or Penelo because I think it's a waste of their huge MP pools.
    - White Mage/Foebreaker - A healer who can wear heavy armor and use shields if needed with access to all breaks. Fran has the best vitality, which makes her the best Foebreaker, but any of the girls would work great.
    - Black Mage/Machinist - WM is too busy healing to shoot, so BM will make better use of the guns. Any of the girls would work fine for this.

  • @scrapinator8910
    @scrapinator8910 5 лет назад +43

    I had a hard enough time picking single jobs for my party 🙄

  • @StarzAlpha
    @StarzAlpha 7 лет назад +2

    I played FF12 and beat it twice for PS2 so this is rather new to me but what fits my play style is what I have in order
    VAAN- shikari/Archer
    Penelo- RedMage/Machinist
    Balthier- Machinist/ Time Battlemage
    Fran- Monk/Bushi
    Basch- Bushi/ Foebreaker
    Ashe- White Mage/ Knight
    Side note- I will have you guys know that all these jobs mean nothing in a sense that it doesn't break the game. It's not the main focus. So what ever combinations you pick will be good in unique.. The creators of this game made it like this.

  • @geert574
    @geert574 5 лет назад +4

    Vaan: Black Mage/Monk
    Penelo: White Mage/ Machinist
    Fran: Uhlan/Time Mage
    Balthier: Foebreaker/Shikari
    Basch: Knight/Bushi
    Ashe: Red Battlemage/Archer
    Really balanced, good hp for everyone with super hp for the tanks and super mp for the 2 girls, lots of shared abilities, everyone can steal/poach, everyone has Swiftness times 3

    • @nezkeys79
      @nezkeys79 Год назад

      Tbh you only need 1 stealer and of you need more you get 3 for free

  • @doomsday2004
    @doomsday2004 3 года назад +1

    Vaan - Shikari / Uhlan
    Balthier - Machinist / Time Battlemage
    Fran - Archer / Red Battlemage
    Basch - Bushi / Foebreaker
    Ashe - Knight / Black Mage
    Penelo - Monk / White Mage

  • @majorpayne0195
    @majorpayne0195 4 года назад +1

    Played this again on the Switch. My setup:
    Vaan: Uhlan + Time Battle Mage
    Balthier: Shikari + Foe Breaker
    Fran: Red Mage + Black Mage
    Basch: Knight + Archer
    Ashe: Monk + Bushi
    Panelo: White Mage + Machinist

  • @mrmosty5167
    @mrmosty5167 7 лет назад +2

    I actually chose the first jobs based on what I think the character would most likely use but also how I played in the past. The second job was basically choosing what was left and complimentary so all 12 are used. So:
    Vaan: Shikari/Monk
    Penelo: White Mage/Bushi
    Balthier: Machinist/Foebreaker
    Fran: Archer/Black Mage
    Basche: Ulahn/Time Battlemage
    Ashe: Knight/Red Battlemage
    Basically I use what I call the “Hunter Party”. That’s Ashe in the lead with Sword/Shield, Fran as ThiefArcher/Ranger/Black Mage and Basche as two-handed powerhouse/tank. With the mixed jobs, all will use backup support technicks/spells as needed.

  • @jaynawinehouse
    @jaynawinehouse 4 года назад +4

    I think the roles of the zodiac system can be fun. But honestly just wish they gave the option to use the original non zodiac license board like they gave the original option in ffx remaster to use original sphere grid. For the most part, I want to play through campaign using roles that make sense for characters as they are introduced and depicted, I like the original for this reason, and then would mess with zodiac system for new game plus.... doubting a patch would ever come for this. At least we can reset jobs on PS4 now. Stuck in decision paralysis for now.

  • @scoubidoubiboy
    @scoubidoubiboy 4 года назад +7

    When I 1st chose my jobs, I was mord concerned to do so in relation to be able to unlock every espère, which can be an issue if not selected well. But basically we don t need them per say, buffers ans debuffers + versatility in amors/weapons/spells is way more valuable

  • @ArsenicSteel00
    @ArsenicSteel00 7 лет назад +19

    Good info. I've decided on:
    Ashe - Monk/Black Mage
    Fran - Archer/Red Mage
    Penolo - Machinist/White Mage
    Balthier - ulhan/Time Mage
    Vaan - Hunter/Breaker
    basch - Knight/Samurai

    • @gtavtheavengergunnerlegend3340
      @gtavtheavengergunnerlegend3340 7 лет назад +4

      ArsenicSteel00 bad choices all around. The best setup after hours and hours of researching with a team comes to this
      Knight/time battle mage
      Machinest/foebreaker
      Archer/red battle mage
      Uhlon/monk
      White mage/bushi
      Black mage/shikari
      This will result in maximum output and flexibility. There are no better choices

    • @veteran0121
      @veteran0121 7 лет назад +2

      + souls elite Why pair Uhlan with Monk? That makes no sense as both jobs have weapons that can hit flying enemies. Also they have too many lores that overlap, like the battle lores. Plus there aren't many magick lores to help with the monk's white magic. Good choice with the Red Mage/Archer combo. Ardor is beast with the burning bow and the black robes.

    • @thebel-boy13
      @thebel-boy13 7 лет назад +2

      souls elite What makes the OP's setup bad? For me, I'd do the same thing but switch the jobs of Ashe and Penelo between them.

    • @veteran0121
      @veteran0121 7 лет назад +9

      + The Bel-Boy The original posters job choices aren't bad. The "souls elite" guy who's an elitist who isn't really an elitist thinks he knows what he's talking about. His job choices outside of Knight/Time Mage and Archer/Red Mage are pure shite to be honest.

    • @thebel-boy13
      @thebel-boy13 7 лет назад

      + veteran0121 I don't understand souls elite either. I checked the FF wikia page and other channels like FF Union for suggestions, and the original poster's job setups are exactly what they recommend. To me, ArsenicSteel00 makes sense.

  • @thetruth143
    @thetruth143 7 лет назад +4

    similar set up
    ahse=monk/blackmage
    bash=uhlan/bushi
    vann=knight/time mage
    balthier=bushi\shikari
    fran=white mage\foebreaker
    penelo=archer
    edmage

  • @Miumiu0404
    @Miumiu0404 7 лет назад +1

    I always like having 2 white mages in my team.
    Vaan - Knight/Red Battlemage
    Penelo - White Mage/Shikari
    Balthier - Machinist/Uhlan
    Basch - Bushi/Foe Breaker
    Fran - Archer/Time Battlemage
    Ashe - Black Mage/White Mage

  • @looots1320
    @looots1320 6 лет назад +1

    Mine is
    vaan- monk/bushi. Vaan is the best for 1 hand weapons (kumbha) and monk buff it for more magic and battlelore,
    Balthier- shikari/bushi- same as video
    Basch- foebreaker/shikari. Wither for yiazmat
    Fran- blackmage/redmage - fran has slow range anim, and also slow melee atk.. redmage for ardor the most powerful magic and max magic lore with both black/red combo
    Penelo- whitemage/machinist. - best backup with highest mp character
    Ashe- knight/timemage - for excalibur in izjs can mostly deal 20-30k dps and ashe 2nd highest mp and tankier than penelo, with overall paladin gameplay with heal and dps

  • @EnkiSvohden
    @EnkiSvohden 3 года назад +1

    The Ultimate Job Setup with specific character stats in mind;
    Vaan - Uhlan/Shikari
    Balthier - Machinist/Time Battlemage
    Fran - Red Battlemage/Foebreaker
    Basch - Knight/Monk
    Ashe - White Mage/Bushi
    Penelo - Archer/Black Mage
    You're welcome. :-)

    • @kennethmckeel8500
      @kennethmckeel8500 3 года назад

      Only issue with this setup is you're locking Hastega onto one character. It's never best to pair Time mage and Machinist as they are the only two jobs with access to that spell

  • @cnkclark
    @cnkclark 7 лет назад +3

    I set myself 2 challenges starting out: that I would use all 12 jobs with no overlap, and I would start Balthier and Fran as Machinist and Archer per their lore even if not optimal. Also, White Mage just doesn't fit Balthier's style so no MCH/WHM for him. Here is what I am going with:
    Vaan: Uhlan/Time Battlemage
    Penelo: Black Mage/Monk
    Ashe: White Mage/Shikari
    Balthier: Machinist/Foebreaker
    Fran: Archer/Red Battlemage
    Basch: Knight/Bushi (with Mateus and Hashmal Espers for juicy white magic)

    • @lionheart4424
      @lionheart4424 5 лет назад

      I plan to run a similar setup for my Switch playthrough, based on their personalities rather than OP setups. I mean, game Official arts put guns on Balthier and Bows on Fran. Makes sense to put Vaan as a Uhlan, but Penelo to me looks more of a support role. I only played the PS2 version till now so all of these builds are totally new to me. Excited to test them out thoug! Since I plan to get the PS4 Platinum Trophy this is like perfect practice. On PS4 I will try to make the best possible builds though.

  • @xcv1971
    @xcv1971 2 года назад +2

    You can go to the moogle in the clan hall and he will change your classes for you

    • @Primalliquid92
      @Primalliquid92  2 года назад +1

      that update wasnt out at the time of making this video

    • @greypilgrim2028
      @greypilgrim2028 11 месяцев назад

      @@Primalliquid92 : Hi there.I wonder if you can help. For some reason, both the Sky Pirates' Den and Change Job options have completely disappeared from the list. I have no idea how this happened and am wondering if you have any advice. Many thanks for your great guides.

  • @Xenthrick
    @Xenthrick 4 года назад +9

    Can get the best gun just after the tomb, just have to steal from the most dangerous enemy in the game.

    • @Ookami20
      @Ookami20 3 года назад

      Just the sound of that thrills me 😏

  • @ForzaTerra89
    @ForzaTerra89 7 лет назад +17

    No uhlan. I liked to use all 12 although it's not optimal
    I'm keen to do trial mode but considering it was possible to best on one job then it can clearly still be bested

  • @geoffbaumgartner5335
    @geoffbaumgartner5335 7 лет назад +4

    I don't know that I've seen so much indecision involved in a game, ever. It's why I didn't get through more than a few hours of it a decade ago, despite buying the PS2 Steelbook Edition on Day One (and that was just 1 job). I appreciate the idea that you can just pick what you like, and that has been stressed by the best gamers out there, but you make some good points here.

  • @samtheguru
    @samtheguru 4 года назад +1

    The only change I have made is Basch: Knight/time mage and Balthier: Foebreaker/Uhlan.

  • @Amalthazar
    @Amalthazar 4 месяца назад

    Vaan: Monk - Timebattle Mage
    Balthier: Knight - Black Mage
    Fran: Archer - Foebreaker
    Bash: Knight - Bushi
    Ash: Uhlan - Redbattle Mage
    Penelo : White Mage - Shikari
    Love this team

  • @hollyibbotson5290
    @hollyibbotson5290 3 года назад +1

    I'm much later on in the game, and I'm feeling the limitations and importance of choosing your jobs effectively.

  • @SeigneurDMorts
    @SeigneurDMorts 4 года назад +2

    I'm playing on PC, I modded it si every job is the full classic board + the new licenses. It feels like good ol' days

    • @SprunkCovers
      @SprunkCovers 4 года назад

      I'm playing the ps2 version right now, I personally like both boards, however the original board makes characters to op by the end of the game lol

  • @xxThorTubexx
    @xxThorTubexx 9 месяцев назад

    Vaan shikari-knight balthier red mage-machinist Fran blakmage-archer basch uhlan-bushi ashe foe breaker-whaitemage penelo timebattlemage-monk this is the team to play.

  • @stevehabura106
    @stevehabura106 6 лет назад +2

    great video, just a tip. if you follow this guide plan out your quickenings, especially for Vaan and Basch as you can lock yourself from getting access to the weapons.

  • @Mellathor
    @Mellathor 5 лет назад +27

    Getting it on switch, do you have a tip for the espers too? I read that they have a influence on the licence boards

  • @Rafael-kr6zv
    @Rafael-kr6zv 7 лет назад

    My team:
    Vaan: Knight + Shikari
    Balthier: Machinist + Bushi
    Fran: Archer + Time Mage
    Basch: Red Mage + Monk
    Ashe: Black Mage + Foebreaker
    Penelo: White Mage + Uhlan
    At first I went for the obvius/stereotype jobs, but I decided to make them different and grant them different armors and playstyles

  • @KennArc
    @KennArc 4 года назад +2

    look at all this well constructed thought into picking classes
    I literally just went, spears are cool uhlan
    oh I need a healy person, white mage
    oh she looks cute with the daggers, shikari
    and I just don't touch the other 3 they still like lv 10 or something
    🙃

    • @user-hf2zi8bk6r
      @user-hf2zi8bk6r 4 года назад +1

      same bro, even though i have played this game for like 10 times

  • @IamYasha10
    @IamYasha10 6 лет назад +4

    Thank you so much. This is my first time playing this game. This is very helpful.

  • @faisal1979m
    @faisal1979m Год назад

    I recommend with Knight and other different job like all types of magic on the beginning for Karkata access from trial mod for 92 damage and 100% confusion effect to can rare steal it from the 1st cactus gang boss
    Later make your base job monk for a highe attack and healing access best 2nd nob is four-breaker

  • @thebel-boy13
    @thebel-boy13 5 лет назад +1

    After playing the game, I actually found this setup to be the most enjoyable for me:
    Vaan - Knight/Time Battlemage
    Balthier - Shikari/Foebreaker
    Basch - Monk/Bushi
    Ashe - Red Battlemage/Black Mage
    Penelo - Machinist/White Mage
    Fran - Archer/Uhlan
    The suggestion in this video is alright; I tried it out. I just couldn’t find much joy out of it, so I restarted my file and used the setup above and I got what I wanted from all the characters this time.

  • @FeralPhilosopher
    @FeralPhilosopher 7 лет назад +2

    Wow we agree on three character-job combos. I'm using the same Ashe, Penelo, and Fran. I like your choices, fellow gamer!

  • @hossman3000
    @hossman3000 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you so much. I wanted to use all jobs with 3 swiftness, so I built off your advice.
    Vaan samurai/knight
    Balthier dragoon/time mage
    Fran foebreaker/machinist
    Bosch shakiri/ white mage
    Ashe monk/black mage
    Penello red mage/archer
    Balthier and Fran have hastega and all 4 breaks this way too.
    Vaan bosch Ashe and penello can all heal decently.
    I'd appreciate any feedback if somebody reads this.

  • @nemo0036
    @nemo0036 7 лет назад

    Thoughts?
    Vaan: Shikari/Foebreaker
    Penelo: White Mage/Machinist
    Fran: Black Mage/Monk
    Balthier: Uhlan/Time Battle Mage
    Basch: Knight/Bushi
    Ashe: Red Battle Mage/Archer

    • @geert574
      @geert574 5 лет назад

      Fran has weakest stats, don't have her as nuke mage

  • @Terins917
    @Terins917 5 лет назад +2

    I love this game. I have a notebook with about 15 different setups for classes. With the rapeage that the trial mode can give you, Knight and Bushi are my 2 main classes, for the main purpose of the Karkata. Monk follows suite, due to the STUPIDLY high HP bump. And thirdly, is a tie between Shikari and Time Battlemage. SHI for it high DPS but TBM for its diversity.

  • @SeniorSuiki
    @SeniorSuiki Год назад

    playing ffxii for the 5th time (first time zodiac age) I went in blind with jobs; more specifically, I put classes where I felt best fit the character.
    Vaan: Shikari/ Foebreaker
    Blathier: machinist/time mage
    Fran: Archer/Monk
    Basche: Knight/ Bushi
    Ashe: red/black mage
    Penelope: White mage/ Uhlan
    Just the other day I got my platinum trophy after beating the 100th trial. So literally THERES NO WRONG ANSWER but this video does provide a lot to avoid headaches like I’ve experienced 😅

  • @OfficialJab
    @OfficialJab Год назад +1

    Looked up so many builds and while they're probably all capable, I just want the jobs to suit who the character is and looks like.
    The official strategy guide suggests Penelo as tank, and I'm sure it works but I just don't like it lol
    I like this one. Might swap a couple and I appreciate the reassurances that almost any build can work. I'm not looking to platinum so I'll be fine probably!

  • @DynamicCGaming
    @DynamicCGaming 6 лет назад

    I used Redmage/blackmage for Vaan, Bushi/Knight for Balthier, Archer/Uhlan for Fran, Shikari/Foebreaker for Basch, Whitemage/Knight for Ashe, Monk/Time for Penelo

  • @ramzeysid
    @ramzeysid 7 лет назад +7

    I've got 6 seitengrats after watching your RNG manipulation vid and I feel like I've made my job choices almost totally pointless, I feel guilty that I'm breaking the game.

  • @iamergoproxy3476
    @iamergoproxy3476 4 года назад +3

    This was a very well done video. I havent played this game since HS but I wanted to relive the moments of one of my favorite PS2 titles. I understand that you said, several times, that any job pairing can get you through the game but your setup seems too sweet to pass up

  • @chadd990
    @chadd990 Год назад

    Very interesting monk/black mage combo.
    I just started playing zodiac on the switch (actually I’m 67 hours in) and I think I’m having more fun than I did when I played it over a decade ago on the ps2.
    Anyways here are my jobs. They are not optimized, but it’s how I want it for now so I can always have a tank/DPS/healer
    Vaan: knight/monk
    He’s my sub-tank.
    Baltheir: Machinist/Foebreaker DPS
    Fran: Archer/Black mage DPS
    Basch: Knight/Bushi main tank
    Ashe: white mage/time - healer/support
    Penelope: white/red -healer/support
    I may respec soon, but this way the team feels different with each person, but still gives me the classic team set up of tank/DPS/healer

  • @leonlacroix2638
    @leonlacroix2638 4 года назад

    I always have:
    ashe as a white mage/ archer
    Fran as a black mage /samurai
    Basch as a foe breaker / knight

  • @asneakylawngnome5792
    @asneakylawngnome5792 2 года назад

    That ador combo is a wickedly sick idea hell yea thanks man

  • @chriskoloski32
    @chriskoloski32 7 лет назад +3

    I didn't know multiple characters could pick the same jobs

  • @jojoink8729
    @jojoink8729 7 лет назад +2

    it took me a while to figure out a good team but I decided to leave out foebreaker cause I don't like using axes or hammers cause of the random damage and I think I picked good job placements
    vaan - Knight/bushi
    Basch - Bushi/Monk
    Ashe - Red Battlemage/Black Mage
    Fran - Uhlan/Time Battlemage
    Balthier - Machinist/Archer
    Penelo - White Mage/Shikari

  • @marlendro2783
    @marlendro2783 6 лет назад

    My favorites: Vaan monk / bushi
    Penelo blackmage/ time battlemage
    Balthier white mage/ foebreaker
    Fran shikari/ white mage
    Basch knight / bushi
    Ashe blackmage/ red battlemage

  • @kevincushing3165
    @kevincushing3165 7 лет назад

    Here's my planned setup for longevity and end game boss takedowns:
    Ashe: Bushi/Monk
    Penelo: White Mage/Hunter
    Basch: Foebreaker/Time Battlemage
    Vaan: Red Battlemage/Black Mage
    Basic strategy is buff up and berserk Ashe for max DPS, subbing in Vaan for insane spell casting if needed. What do you think?

  • @thewannabemartialartist4613
    @thewannabemartialartist4613 7 лет назад +1

    the way I built my team was just what I thought sounded fun with each character.
    vann- monk/shikari
    penelo- black/ time
    balthier- uhlan/ bushi
    fran- red mage/ Archer
    ashe- white mage/ machinist
    basch- for breaker/ knight.
    I plan on doing another play through but more optimized

    • @KromeDragon
      @KromeDragon 7 лет назад

      Aaron Alarcon for the first playthrough I'm gonna pick jobs which fit the characters themes so I can enjoy the lore and story

    • @thewannabemartialartist4613
      @thewannabemartialartist4613 7 лет назад

      Zeneki I played a crap ton of this game when it first released so it just like a refresher for me. I never played the Japanese release though

  • @tuesti7c
    @tuesti7c 7 лет назад +2

    beat the original years ago. really thinking of getting the new version to relive some nostalgia

    • @Primalliquid92
      @Primalliquid92  7 лет назад

      did you beat the original 12 or IZJS? because theres a MASSIVE difference between the original FF12 that released outside of Japan and this.

    • @tuesti7c
      @tuesti7c 7 лет назад

      Primalliquid the original 12 released in America. games are different types but I did beat every boss available including yiaz and omega. had 152 hours I think

    • @Primalliquid92
      @Primalliquid92  7 лет назад

      this game is completely different, infact lets ignore everything but the jobs. you wont have 3 characters able to do everything now. you get to choose 1 job to start with (You can unlock a second job for each character about 5 hours into the game) however these jobs you choose you have to keep. Theres no swapping mid run or anything like that meaning your characters can only use specific skills,weapon,armor,magic ect

  • @chrisfoster8026
    @chrisfoster8026 4 года назад +3

    Great video but what would your recommendations for espers and quickenings be with this setup?

  • @blue-phoenix115
    @blue-phoenix115 5 лет назад +2

    Your combination looks legit, a truly power run combo. Mine will be similar.

  • @ente_kadang2_ya158
    @ente_kadang2_ya158 2 года назад

    Stat wise e1 will do at the end, but battle animation speed is matter to proc more combo with melle wep.
    At the za ver, job changeable as soon as u have montblanc to talk to.

  • @FabulousFab72
    @FabulousFab72 3 года назад

    I think it would be usefull to precise that most of the usefull combination you describe is for endgame obtainable spell/equipment. And sometimes it requires a lot of farming.

  • @Ksawarrior
    @Ksawarrior 4 года назад

    I’m thinking this for my lineup when I play it. Not trying to use all jobs or min-max, just having fun.
    Vaan: shikari/red battlemage
    Penelo: White mage/shikari
    Balthier: monk/bushi
    Fran: machinist/foebreaker
    Basch: knight/bushi
    Ashe: Black mage/red battlemage
    Thoughts?

  • @maidenslayer
    @maidenslayer 5 лет назад +4

    Oh :( but I wanted Fran as a Black Mage/Archer.

    • @dwoodard5717
      @dwoodard5717 4 года назад

      That's what I used for her. Just started last week but I'm already like 20 hours in so im just gonna keep going with it. She works pretty well so far

  • @odoyle5895
    @odoyle5895 7 лет назад +8

    i love the videos, but i was wondering something. as i and im sure many others are watching these as a guide to the platinum. would you be able to put a few sentences in under the video just about what/why you are doing x at x place or a tip. like when watching fighting the dustia i didnt realize for a long time you were bringing up the menu to see when the drop would come and what it was. took many many deaths in that haha. i just feel it would be very helpful to a lot. keep up the great work!

  • @lavayuki
    @lavayuki 7 лет назад

    I had a similar set up, but with a few differences. I mainly use Fran, Basch and someone else, usually interchanging Ashe or Balthier depending on how my party is holding up and the boss. I don't really like or use Vaan and Penelo so their levels always trail behind the rest of the crew.
    Vaan= Shikari/Bushi: Yiazmat killer with Yagyu Darkblade. No other purpose really as I don't use him.
    Fran= Foebreaker/ Shikari: My personal favourite character, so I want to use her offensively and I control her. I hate controlling mages so I needed her more physical than mage or ranged.
    Basch: Knight/ Bushi: Undead slayer
    Ashe: Black Mage/ Monk= My mage for elemental attacks, added monk as black mage has bad hp and needs Monk's vitality, holy and some white magic hence making Ashe pretty versatile. .
    Penelo:Time Battle mage +Knight=purely support with some offense. Also for Jelly farming i guess.
    Balthier: White Mage/ Machinist- For Hastega, healing and some stamina/hp for my white mage.
    No Uhlan which I kind of wanted to put in but couldn't find a place where. Also, no Archer or Red mage for me either

  • @deevexneekcraft
    @deevexneekcraft 3 года назад

    Keep in mind u can reset you boards at anytime for anyone who needs to experiment or just want a change.

    • @Primalliquid92
      @Primalliquid92  3 года назад +2

      Correct, but you couldnt when this video was made

    • @deevexneekcraft
      @deevexneekcraft 3 года назад

      @@Primalliquid92 Ahhh ok. Little late to the party. I have only just started Zodiac age after never being interested in the original back when I was a kid.

  • @wrayday7149
    @wrayday7149 3 года назад +1

    I just got back into this game via steam version... your guides are super helpful making my way thru this game.
    My worst experience with this game has to be the broken tank mechanic... decoy or not, enemies just attack which ever char I control.... and the super glitchy gambit system can lead to times where all my characters are stuck in a steal or heal loop and not actually attacking the enemy.

  • @adrianmantale5071
    @adrianmantale5071 Год назад

    Hello , i will share mi jobs strating with vaan - white mage-shikari , balthier- machinist-bushi, fran-black mage-foebreaker, bash archer-red battlemage, ashe-time battlemage-knight and penelo-uhlan-monk. Enjoy the game . bye bye.

  • @francescocavalletti3357
    @francescocavalletti3357 7 лет назад

    I want to do Vann: uhlan,time mage Balthier:machinist,shikari Fran:archer,red battlemage Basch:foebreaker,bushi Ashe:white mage,knight Penelo:black mage,monk. It's Good?

  • @kieranb3815
    @kieranb3815 5 лет назад

    I dont overly see the point of this. 30hrs in to the Switch version now at lvl40 roughly and i just plough through all enemies with standard attacks and decent heals.

    • @Primalliquid92
      @Primalliquid92  5 лет назад

      For the main Game it doesnt matter what classes you choose, its easy as heck. Trial mode on the other hand is a different story all together especially floor 100.

    • @kieranb3815
      @kieranb3815 5 лет назад

      @@Primalliquid92 Ah, ok. That explains it. Cheers.

  • @Divizoro
    @Divizoro 7 лет назад +10

    Thanks for the info! Clearly a lot of thought has gone into this. My only issue with doing this myself is that my OCD wouldn't let me have Ulhan as the only job not being used... god I hate my brain. Would you recommend giving Ulhan to Vaan or Basch instead of Bushi for one of them to satisfy my silly need for all the classes to be used, or would that make either one of those characters much less useful? Also, no Ulhan, no Zodiac Spear :c

    • @Primalliquid92
      @Primalliquid92  7 лет назад +1

      Zodiac spear is bad, theres actually quite a few weapons stronger than it.

    • @Divizoro
      @Divizoro 7 лет назад

      Yeah, I've gone with the same job sets you've chosen in the end (with the exception of swapping Ashe and Penelo because I prefer Penelo as a healer for some reason) to also make my life easier with trial mode and Yiazmat. Thanks again for the upload, really helped. :)

    • @KendrysDraws
      @KendrysDraws 7 лет назад +5

      Primalliquid just because it's not the best doesn't mean it's bad haha

    • @renatoramos8834
      @renatoramos8834 5 лет назад +1

      have balthier as an uhlan + time battle mage.

  • @dravenmaster7859
    @dravenmaster7859 3 года назад +1

    rest in peace Zodiac Spear

  • @G1ZM0S1S
    @G1ZM0S1S 4 года назад +1

    This games this best remaster I've ever played

  • @harleyhaimona2207
    @harleyhaimona2207 7 лет назад

    lol I've really noticed you say "however" quite a lot. It's like your catchphrase. Awesome videos man. I've just bought the game today so I was wondering which classes to choose for my new game!

    • @Primalliquid92
      @Primalliquid92  7 лет назад

      haha "however" and "ok then" i seem to get called out on alot xD

  • @DivineArtemis
    @DivineArtemis 7 лет назад

    My Fran is a monk/ black mage and let me tell you that combination works so well. You get a healer with strong magic attacks. A few other tips: I would avoide the archer class alltogether and white mage + machinist can work great together (the only machinist combo that makes sense)

    • @Primalliquid92
      @Primalliquid92  7 лет назад

      monk/black mage should never be using healing spells. it should be dishing out damage while a white mages heals. As for your archer comment i have to disagree. Archer/red mage makes for the most powerfull spell in the game, the ability to kite and 3 swiftness nodes.

    • @DivineArtemis
      @DivineArtemis 7 лет назад

      Primalliquid my monk/black mage only heals if my healer dies or my team needs urgent help. That build is for damage dealing mostly.
      I still think that red mage /samurai is better than red mage/ archer and I wouldn't combine archer with any other class so I'd drop it. But that's just my opinion.

    • @Primalliquid92
      @Primalliquid92  7 лет назад

      i just personally dont see a red mage/samurai being good. Theres far to much overlap on the nodes and so little synagy its basicly just gimping yourself.

  • @s72-h6i
    @s72-h6i 2 года назад +2

    Can you compare which character is fastest for each job?

    • @Primalliquid92
      @Primalliquid92  2 года назад

      no, because min maxing for attack animations like that is imo, silly the difference it makes overall is miniscule and just makes some fights a few seconds faster, if people want to min max like that, theres other guides out there already

  • @xaby996
    @xaby996 6 лет назад +1

    Fran / ashe makes for the best black mage in the game with the best base stats. For whatever reason fran is best for blk mage and ashe is runner up.

    • @Primalliquid92
      @Primalliquid92  6 лет назад +1

      with double class selection min/maxing the classes isnt needed, Infact if you min/maxed everybody you would have a terrible party with truly terrible synergy which would drastically lower the efficiency.

    • @xaby996
      @xaby996 Год назад

      @@Primalliquid92 true

  • @blackwidow7804
    @blackwidow7804 7 лет назад

    I want use all 12 so i have:
    Vaan Knight/Bushi
    Balthier Shikari/Foebreaker
    Fran Time Battlemage/White Mage
    Ashe Red Battlemage/Archer
    Basch Uhlan/Machinist
    Penelo Black Mage/Monk

  • @Noid1220
    @Noid1220 2 месяца назад

    Im so basic that I use jobs based on what their characters seem to be in the story.

  • @Lunar_Yojimbo
    @Lunar_Yojimbo 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you for information 👍
    I try Uhlan samurai combination for holy lance 😅 feel strong so far
    Just even if old ff zodiac
    Have good days 🍻👍

  • @jeremycuddy3463
    @jeremycuddy3463 5 лет назад

    Nice I did
    Vaan Shikari / Foe Breaker
    Balthier Knight/Uhlan
    Basch Shikari/Bushi
    Ashe Bushi/ BlackMage
    Fran Archer / Red battle mage
    Penelo knight / white mage

    • @blue-phoenix115
      @blue-phoenix115 5 лет назад

      That looks like a good combo.
      Ashe's Bushi/BlackMage is the most optimal combination out of all the characters.
      I would want a Time mage in there for the Hastaga.

  • @budlikycz2445
    @budlikycz2445 4 года назад

    Just bought the Zodiak age on PC so I hope it will be fun for quite a while.

  • @a1rbag
    @a1rbag 7 лет назад

    Nice info. Eerily similar to what I've settled on. Only differences are that I went with foebreaker/shikari on vaan and uhlan/time mage on balthier. Purely because I wanted every class. Otherwise I probably would've skipped Uhlan. Oh, and my Ashe and Penelo are reversed, but that's whatever. Feeling more sure of my choices now, thanks!

    • @Primalliquid92
      @Primalliquid92  7 лет назад

      yea its a pretty solid combination of jobs not much can really go wrong with it

  • @leqesai
    @leqesai 6 лет назад +7

    Any combination works?
    Archer+Knight ftw

  • @Xanthosis012
    @Xanthosis012 7 лет назад

    I don't own PS4 and the game zodiac age so I'm playing the emulator for PS2 zodiac job system
    I've played the original english version which i loved but then i read on how they balancing out and changing some of the things in game for zodiac job system, that I have to try it out
    The issue here is, zodiac job system won't give you two jobs per character, only one, so I'm stuck all of my characters with no battlemage and no range bowmen...
    Honestly, this game is a great MMORPG theme for those time (2006) when the online gaming is relatively new though the story is kinda weak and Vaan is useless for story mode, the grinding is what kept me coming

  • @darkdragonite1419
    @darkdragonite1419 5 лет назад

    Was told burning bow +ardor combo IS good.. but only helps in a couple instances..

  • @finaltime21
    @finaltime21 4 года назад +1

    I’m here making my Penelo a knight for lols

  • @renatoramos8834
    @renatoramos8834 5 лет назад

    I'm making vaan a shikari/foebreaker and balthier an uhlan/time battlemage. The rest is similar.

  • @RayWearer
    @RayWearer 5 лет назад

    I have the monk/black mage combination on Fran. She is sick!

  • @ArchlordZer0
    @ArchlordZer0 7 лет назад +1

    Can someone tell me if this would be viable for things like Yiazmat and Trial Mode?
    Vaan - Knight/White Mage
    Ashe - Timed Battle Mage/Red Battle Mage
    Basch - Foebreaker/Bushi
    Balthier - Machinist/Shikari
    Fran - Archer/Ulhan
    Penelo - Monk/Black Mage

  • @UncleStrange
    @UncleStrange 7 лет назад +1

    great video! it helped a lot... subbed :)

  • @AndroxineVortex
    @AndroxineVortex 6 лет назад

    Hello i just bought this game and am looking to use every job while still being a good setup. Is this a good list?
    Vaan - hunter/breaker
    Balthier - uhlan/time
    Basch - knight/samurai
    Fran - red/archer
    Ashe - white/machinist
    Penelo - black/monk

  • @Alexandr9966
    @Alexandr9966 7 лет назад +4

    my team:
    vaan-white mage, shikari
    penelo-red mage, archer
    balthier-machinist, foebreaker
    fran-black mage, monk
    ash-knight, time mage
    bash-uhlan, samurai
    How about it?))
    I know, this maybe enough for passing the main plot, but is that enough to elite hunt like Yazmat or secret esper Ultima? I don t now...

    • @ceruleanaus7688
      @ceruleanaus7688 7 лет назад +3

      Pretty much any combo is enough to take down Yazmat. There are some optimal builds that make it easier, but keep in mind Yas was doable even withouth the addition of combo licence boards, so your skill is ultimately going to matter more than builds.

    • @zekkavo9904
      @zekkavo9904 7 лет назад +1

      I really dig White Mage and Shikari as a combo. You can give them a Main Gauche and a Shield for a very evasive healer. I think you've given me a good idea for my next run.

  • @stormlands
    @stormlands 6 лет назад

    black mage also get white robe and hat also increase holy magic

  • @clockwipe
    @clockwipe 7 лет назад +1

    Fantastic and well thought out! Really helpful for my playthrough

  • @Wymhero
    @Wymhero 7 лет назад

    btw it would have been really helpful if you would remind us about the importance of those mist attack positions for the shikari combo, for instance. did that wrong - meaning i can now repeat my whole game if i wanna use this xD

  • @andreacalcagno1991
    @andreacalcagno1991 7 лет назад

    I had a few doubt on my party composition, at first i wanted to go with vaan bushi/monk, balthier foebreaker/shikari, fran whm/mch, bash archer/ulhan,ashe bushi/knight and penelo blm/monk, but i realized that i really lack a support char in this comp.
    So i decided to search for a good combination for the rbmg and i found the archer with ardent bow, etc,etc so i tried to fit it in by going with vaan bushi/monk, balthier foebreaker/shikari, fran whm/tbm, bash archer/rbm, ashe bushi/knight and penelo again bmg/monk.
    I like the aggro play, and having the 3 nuker with high survivability is really juicy, but i think fran may be too squishy and since bash mag stats is absolutly horrible i don't know how well the rbm will work with him, considering i choose him for the archer because of his strenght stat.
    I also think ashe with bushi/knight is a good choice, as the combo is kinda top tier because of the reciprocated benefits and ashe is the char with highest mag so with this setup she would deal a lot of damages while still having high survivability.
    I accept any criticism and suggestion, so feel free to change things up and try to fit the archer/rbm in the comp

  • @DimitrisAravopoulos
    @DimitrisAravopoulos 6 лет назад

    so just started the game i was a ps2 player had it finished but now its a bit different! i will use your jobs ! wish me luck! ( ofc i am going to platinum it!)

  • @smoggleboy6983
    @smoggleboy6983 3 года назад +1

    I got a question about this man, you still read comments here?

    • @Primalliquid92
      @Primalliquid92  3 года назад +1

      yep

    • @Bryan-df7kc
      @Bryan-df7kc 3 года назад

      @@Primalliquid92 awesome! Does it matter the order i go with first? For ex. Instead of red battlemage/archer for Fran i went with Archer first.

  • @GamingWithPersona
    @GamingWithPersona 7 лет назад

    Great video. Very helpful.
    What's your thoughts on thus job combo?
    Vaan: Shikaru/Monk
    Balthier: Knight/Foe Breaker
    Fran: Foe Breaker/Archer
    Basch: knight/bushi
    Ashe: Red Battlemage/Monk
    Penelo: White mage/ black mags

  • @koban4max
    @koban4max 7 лет назад +1

    Penolope redmage and shikari! Godly combo!