I respect your drive to turn these stumbling blocks into motivational videos for other painters. It’s reassuring to see someone like you with a significantly higher skill level than myself hit a snag, as well as how you recover.
I’m happy to hear that it comes across well. I always want to make sure I’m as transparent as possible in my videos, we are all human, and we all have to deal with issues like making mistakes. If anything I say helps even one person have a better time painting, then I will continue to do my best and make more videos.
This was a fun video to make, despite the model lol. I’ve had the camera for a good while now, just not a lot of opportunities to use it. It’s 120p from a GoPro hero 7, and yeah, I was being extra slow about it lol.
It's always really good for me as a beginner to see experienced and accomplished painters share their struggle when they happen. It's good to be reminded that this stuff is difficult and no one is safe from a bad painting day, but it's also very educational to have you walk through how you solve these adversities. Thank you for sharing, from someone who is a total of five finished models into her hobby. :)
It’s an easy thing to forget sometimes. We all want to paint at a level we see in our heads, but it really does take time and patience to get there. 5 models down, that’s awesome!
I've never painted a mini, but I enjoy watching you & others do it. I really appreciate videos like this & seeing the "boos boos" you make along with the fact that it is easy just to start over when a person isn't happy. That slow motion hammer part was great! Looking forward to more great videos.
So I’m new to your channel but I’ve gone and caught up. I have to say this is my favorite you’ve put out so far for a multitude of reasons. Perhaps my two favorite things about this are about addressing failure and being ok with it. The other is the format you used. This is sooo much better video format, it feels more personal and inviting the way you are sitting there talking with us, the viewers. Well done and so glad to be a subscriber now
Thank you for the kind words, and for being a subscriber :) Every week is a new opportunity to improve, I can only hope that any improvements that I try and make will come through and help everyone get the most out of each video!
Thank you for making this video, I'm extremely unhappy with my Alpha Pattern Leman Russ right now and it helps knowing that I'm not the only one who occasionally struggles with my "solutions". Nice to see that even amazing painters such as yourself struggle with this stuff.
We are all human man, sometimes we just have bad days. I plan on shelving this model for a little bit to just look at it and think for a while. Sometimes that’s just what we have to do to get out of our own heads and come up with a new game plan! Good luck with your tank, I’m rooting for you :)
this happens for me quite a bit. I usually just leave it for a few days and I find it looks a lot better and I can spot what actually needs to be changed after not thinking about it for a while. Cheers!
It’s not about how we fall, it’s about how we get back up. I think in this case, it’s even better to have the process of what went wrong explained. We can see why it went wrong and learn from it. Great video as always.
i cant tell you how many times that I restarted this model, or repainted it. completely stripped it once. Finally I just called it, and thats the second photo that sits on my Instagram now. BUT each time that I approached it, I had learned from the last, and thats what really mattered in the end. Great job as always, and I loved that waywatcher green!
Every model has something to teach us. I will eventually go back to this one, just not any time soon lol. If you can find GW glazes anywhere, buy them all, they are so good!
I had some situations like yours, Casey) This is always frustrating, when you try do get job done again and again, but it's still not good enough. But I agree with you: finished work much better, than just blank page. Cause if you got job done, you took some experience. Thank you for video!
Great video. I've learned in painting, like in life, haste makes waste. At the same time, it was a learning experience and that's what we are all here for. I've repainted my Lord Aquilor about 6 times now because I am never happy with the color scheme and contrast, but hey, it's just paint. Don't like it? Start over, it's that easy. Good job on sticking with it!
Hey Casey... let me say that your videos are getting better every time you publish a new one. Beside the miniature you paint, i see improvements in video quality, lights, location... That's also a good job, the miniature too... and btw, this is a really difficult miniature to paint! I like the humility you showed about mistakes... i do feel that!
Thanks for noticing man, I’m slowly getting everything together for a new hobby space! It’s almost done, and I can’t wait to start doing more work in the space. I’m finally being able to use my real cameras and get away from using my phone so much :)
This hits really close to home, I struggled 3 times to paint a goliath barbarian for D&D I'm still not thrilled with it but I had to put it down. I then ended up painting a bugbear for the same game and it went so well thanks to being mindful of what I struggled with, with the goliath.
I wanted to say thank you for this video. Watching somebody I like to learn from make mistakes really makes me feel better about my own expectations, and that even the best can lose track of their plans and intentions due to frustration. As a hobbyist, t's good to know that even somebody who's made a job out of this has to take a step back every now and again. It's something I can remember the next time I pick up a brush.
I really like nighthaunt too, I mean, murdery ghosts, come on! I think I was just distracted this week and didn’t bring my best self to the painting table. Some of the other stuff I’ve done, like the black coach videos a while back, I really liked, and painting them felt pretty calm and easy going, this model was weirdly difficult for some reason.
I go really long periods of time between painting models to avoid being impatient or rushing. I have to be in the mood to paint. For the whole process, rather than just wanting to final result. I don't play any of the games, and just like to paint them, so that works for me, and the result is always much better than when I try to rush it.
That’s a great way to paint, then you know you’re in the mood to sit back and enjoy the process to the fullest! I always feel like I’m strapped for time and have to rush, which isn’t the best way to paint, and it’s something I’m hoping to fix for myself moving forward.
Great editing on this video :D I don't even paint miniatures (although I did when I was 13, about two decades ago) but I thoroughly enjoy watching your videos. Also, props for being brutally honest about your successes and failures - something every painter, player, athlete etc. does - but something very few are honest about.
I definitely got the same problem, almost all of my paint jobs dont suffer from a lack of painting skill. They suffer from my lack of patience and my mistakes being more visable to me than everything i did fine. I'm someone who wants to improve as fast sa they can. I've been seriously painting minis for a little over 7 months.
@@eBayMiniatureRescues yeah i get those days alot, like once a week im just in my mojo and the rest im just not feeling it i put some pictures of some of my finished miniatures up on my instagram if you'd like to see them
I think the axe at 11:50 looked spot on! I have this model still on the sprue and keep looking at it trying to decide how to paint it along with several more of his type. I thought you were using the hammer to get ideas for rust colours! The model has still turned out looking great, I think you are being too harsh a critic !
It’s possible I’m being too harsh on myself about it, there were several points where I liked the model, but in the end my own frustration got the best of me. Hopefully it’s a good lesson for everyone and it will help others get through harder painting days :)
Oh yeah, do I ever get to that stage you mention, where I get well into it and realize that at least one or two ideas I had are not nearly as cool as I anticipated they'd be! I'm not nearly as bad as I used to be about seeing only my mistakes on my miniatures, but I still have my moments when I say "OK...that sucked." But I'm improving at doing just what you mentioned; casting my eye onto the next model and saying "OK, I'll do better this time." It's a process, for sure.
Definitely a process! We all have to go through it, it’s what we learn that makes the difference. I’m working on the next video already and feeling good about it, so far lol.
Tbh I really liked the second iteration, the bronzeish looking axe turning into blackish brownish smoke shifting into the ethereal green looked really cool to me
Thanks for showing the "fails" it is healthy to show this stuff. More content creators should! Love your positivity you got me to buy my first model ever this week paints next. :-P
FWIW, I thought the red contrast paint on top of the streaking grime had a really cool effect and I was little sad you re-did it. Still came out awesome though!
Putting contrast paint over enamels does make a really cool blood stained effect, the oils makes the contrast really slick and separate a little. That was definitely one of the spots where I could have stopped, but I was getting a little ahead of myself lol. I did a video on painting a corpse cart a while back, that shows some really cool things that contrast does over oils :)
Thank you so much for sharing this video :) This really builds some courage in me thinking I don't have to get everything perfect the first time heh... I learned something and I feel more brave about painting. :D
Just started watching your channel and I LOVE this video. Absolutely on par with Vince Venturella's Dealing With Failure. It's not that I want to watch anyone be unhappy- but man it's such a relief to know people who do this for a living face the same challenges and frustrations that I do. Goddamn this is the best group of people in the world. I'm so glad I started painting.
I've been having this problem with 2 of chaos Obliterators and one of my Greater Possesed, no matter what I did it just didn't work which just spiraled into more and more frustration. In the end I got them vaguely where I wanted them and moved on to the next model. I'll go back to them and re paint them at some point.
Sometimes it’s just better to let the paint job sit, give it some time and then come back. That’s my plan for this model, it’s done “enough” and I’ll revisit it someday :)
This was a great video. Despite how much trouble you were having with this Hangman model each color scheme you went with-I loved & it makes me want to track one of these down.
I Notice that with quarantine, my paint job is not as his optimum level! Going out, change our mind and see peoples and stuff outside help to be inspirate I think! Nice video, nice message! Thanks :)
Having human contact, talking with friends and playing games definitely gives more motivation and inspiration for painting. It’s been tough to be in quarantine and stay positive with the hobby. Hopefully we will all be through this very soon and playing games with our friends again!!
Can't be a proper plastic modeller without a proper rage/stress out 'n back out moment. I'm also having a similar problem with my Eldar Falcon that I converted into a Warp Hunter. My paint job was...fine....but felt very vanilla and lacking. So I plan on covering up the whole thing with primer and doing an "Atlantis the Lost Empire" themed one (ancient with algae growth and an aged, water beaten look) when I calm down and de-stress.
Hah, yeah I think we’ve all been there. Some models just take a toll. Sounds like you have an awesome plan for that tank, and that’s a pretty good pull for inspiration :)
love the colors, I will need to try a ghost like this sometime. I can't wait until I have a space of my own as renting where I am I have no space to do anything yet a few months from now hopefully
I love it when people have the guts to go public with their mistakes made. You deserve all respect for doing that and helping people to learn. BTW is that "desert" you have been digging in your garden? If so - I think it will need some attention, too. :-)
I do feel it’s important to highlight them, nobody’s perfect :) I live in the desert, there’s no sage brush in my backyard, but it surrounds all the properties out here. Looooots of work is needed to get some vegetation to grow. Luckily, I have several nice fruit trees and grapes that grow, so it’s a trade :)
I did the same thing with my (know no fear primaris Captain). I try 3 times to do it right, all my try’s fails, I keep my ugly captain to remember me. To don’t rush painting and try to take more easy.
I thought it looked pretty cool(for what I would imagine would be a fairly difficult model to paint) It will be cool if your bring this back and paint it again in a future video!! would that make it a rescue-ception??? since its a rescue of a ebay rescue haha :D
Cool model look hard to paint but I wood not be put down by it in the end look great have you ever thought of painting a space Marine rainbow Warriors model like see your adaptation on it if you did .
Awesome model I actually liked the first iteration the most lol. That axe handle seems really wobbly, I've noticed a lot of new GW stuff has a single point of contact with the base (Often posed on one leg etc) which makes them pretty fragile for gaming.
For the most part I just try not to buy the same or similar models too often, that way there is a good variety on the channel. Who to buy from depends on feedback from eBay. I try and only buy from people with 100%, and if they have less, I usually check to see why. If the negative feedback is just people complaining about something that has nothing to do with the person or company, then I’ll still buy from them. So far in more than 20 years on eBay I’ve really only had maybe 2 bad transactions. Hope that answers your question!
Usually I go with a broad search of just “Warhammer”, then use the filters to go with “used” “painted” and between $3-$10. That way it really gets the list down and I see the things I want to see. The other part of it is checking as often as you can, at least once a day, and just snagging things when you can. Just be patient and you’ll find some really cool models for cheap!
So a painted mini is better than a grey one eh? I challenge you to paint a model in grey-scale; noir style. If you want, you can wash it with sepia afterwards.
Haha, not a bad idea, it’s actually a great way to learn volumes and get the model to a good standard without color. Then come in with some glazes and you’ve got a very well done (hopefully) mini. Marco Frisoni has a cool video about that.
The hammer does have some real good rust on it, definitely good for reference. It would have been good to use as inspiration, of course, I had something else in mind lol. More for the fun of making a video though, I was never gonna smash a perfectly good model.
we can only grow when we learn from the mistakes we make on our way. with every model, i mess somthing up, i have the opportunity to make it better on the next one! i learned alot from casey in the past month's and i'm really happy about that
If you're someone who really likes to paint minis, this is a situation everyone is likely to come across. Myself, I have a unit of zombies I bought about 3-4 years ago that I have painted twice and still haven't finished. First time around, I had a colour scheme chosen but didn't like how the skin was turning out. I put it aside, forgot about it, and tried it again when Contrast paints came out. This time, I liked the direction the skin was going but then disliked how the tattered clothes I did now looked flat and boring. They now sit as my own testament of not trying to force a project to completion... and another lesson in not trying to do 20 models in one session without doing a test model first.
That model seems to lend itself to a perfect conversion... Remove the noose and build a Gibbet cage around the spirit. (possibly a broken open gibbet cage with a partial skeleton inside.) it would look amazing, though you'd probably have to scratch build the Gibbet
Great vid. Yep, once you feel frustration creeping in, drop the brush and walk away. Come back later. Still though, I'm so jealous of your skill and precision with an airbrush.
I empathize with you on this one; this was my painting journey on what was going to be my Everchosen competition entry. I chose something outside my comfort zone (Nurgle Lord of Blights), designed a cool looking base that still fit within parameters (diseased swamp) and had a great idea (to go for a yellow, jaundiced skin tone) and everything went wrong from there. The water effect on my base cracked (which I'd never had happen before) and it took me months to realize what had happened; I used *really* porous cork with big voids in it as the landmass and it actually absorbed the water effect as it was curing, creating these deep cracks, which only go worse when I tried to fill them because the cork kept absorbing the acrylic (I still have that failed base by the way, and only realized about a month or so afterward what had happened because I accidentally hit the cork with a metal sculpting tool and the impact was much more substantial than it should have been as if I'd hit a solid resin piece). That pretty much ended that project, but before that I struggled with getting the color right on the skin and never did succeed. After a couple of months, I stripped it and its now primed with a new base (different cork this time and sealed extra well just to be sure) and waiting for me to try again. There most definitely comes a time when you're painting where you hit that point; the point where you should stop messing with it and just call it done. Its so easy to miss the signs though, and most hobbyists I know have at least 3 or 4 stories of similar projects where they finally had to put it aside, then strip it later and start with a fresh palette. Although, for a second there, I did think you were going to go full on "Dead by Daylight" on that model and I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't have found it at least a little satisfying, on behalf of everyone who's had that struggle.
Yeah we all get to that point sometimes, definitely better to let it sit and try again another day! I really thought about following through with that hammer, really thought about it...it would have been satisfying for a second I think, and then I would have felt even worse lol.
@@eBayMiniatureRescues - in all seriousness, thanks for this vid. It's for lack of a better term "refreshing" to see that people that do this on a professional level have the same struggles as us choads :)
I’m glad that comes across man, mistakes are part of growth, and we are all, always, trying to improve, so they are inevitable. It’s how you deal with and recover from them that keeps you moving forward :)
I think there was a moment, for a second or two, where it looked pretty cool, then I went and painted over it lol. Guaranteed I will be trying more hot pink blades in the future :)
@@eBayMiniatureRescues I think it's the creativity aspect of it. Weapons are grey metal, for undead they're probably rusted. But what is you made it glowing pink and make it work? That's cool.
Not that I'm any sort of great painter or artist, but I think you ran into a "mixed style" problem with this mini. You seemed to be going for an ultra gritty "grimdark" shroud and gibbet on the mini, but mixing that with a very bright and almost neon ethereal mist and enchanted axe. I've yet to see anyone who can mix those two styles on the same mini and really pull it off. The two big "mistakes" in my view are attempting the chipping effect over the neon axe blade, and the blood spatter on the spirits. That's where you seemed to be trying to unify the gritty and the fantastic and it just didn't come together. Of the two, I think the axe blade was more successful, and probably could have pulled together to create an interesting look. I might have tried to tone down the pink and work more off of the quincridone red, taking a little of the neon effect off. The blood spatter, I find really difficult to pull off effectively. Just a random spritzing of blood always seems to just miss the mark. Where I've seen it done most effectively, it almost has it's own story to it the same way a good highlight, NMM, or OSL effect has. What I mean by that is there's a varying density to the spatter on the mini, such that you can see where the spatter came from, where the primary impact points were, and where the blood has pooled. I dunno, these are just my random thoughts and reactions watching the video.
I haven't painted for many years (getting ready to do a little painting over Christmas with a new paint set), but I was thinking about how I would paint that miniature differently: Does blood spattering on spirits make sense? I wouldn't paint blood spatter on anything ethereal, unless maybe the blood drops were completely fresh (maybe glossy 3D droplets) to suggest the blood had sprayed at just that moment; the skulls I might paint as physical skulls surrounded by ethereal vapors, but I'm not sure how well I could paint the transition. Blood on the axe I might paint as spattering upward rather than dripping down or pooling for a (hopefully_ dynamic effect. Something I can't make up my mind about on this figure is the noose: The rope, if it is obeying gravity, should hang straight down.. but then again (a) he's a ghost, and (b) if he's moving forward very fast then the rope would swing toward him.
I would have killed the blood on the ghost/spirit bits but keep it on the covering over the head/back... the change on the axe looked better on your initial revision over the pink.
Agreed. Someday when I do this model again, I’m gonna think about it a little more before putting paint down. In the mean time, it’s done enough to play some Warcry, and the next model is calling my name :)
For sure, it’s one of the things that wasn’t super solid in my head, so when actually getting to it I was breaking the rules laid out by the ‘question.’ If one part is in this realm, it can have a more a more textured, rusted, or bloody look. What I ended up doing was putting that onto the parts that were not in this realm, so I broke the question, or just didn’t consider it. So blood on the ghosts, no good, blood on the leather, totally fine. Setting up rules to follow can make for a nice consistent army, knowing what colors or effects go where and when are all part of it. Asking yourself these questions before you jump in to painting will often lead to better results. In this case, I thought about it, but didn’t really follow it.
Came across this video in a timely fashion, painting up my swampcalla shaman and it's just annoying me with the fiddly details that are so different from the rest of the Kruleboyz and all the little nooks & crannies. But it doesn't have to be perfect, just cohesive with the rest of the Boyz from 3ft away, and look good enough from where the eye can normally see the detail.
If you use music you don’t own then you will get your videos taken down. I use a combination of Artlist and Epidemicsound tracks that are prescreened for RUclips, so I’m always safe from any issues. If you don’t want to pay for services like those, RUclips has a pretty great selection available for free in the studio.
Shit happens... Sometimes you just have to accept, that your skill or the thing you want achieve is not achieveable right now.. I just try to make the best out of it and declare a paintjob finished at some point to start the next one. Looking forward to the Chaplain I've send you ;)... And other Vids to come.
Haha, I don’t think anyone is as awesome as Bob Ross. I am definitely a big fan though, and as much as I can possibly muster, I will try and spread his good message to the painters in this hobby :)
I need to learn how to stop before I do too much. I realize that a lot of the times when I paint, the model could have been better if I just stopped adding addition stuff. I've been doing the less is more thing now, and it's been a big improvement!
GAH I cant stand those stabilized cameras, I almost barf every time. To match the purple axe you could have pushed all the ghostly stuff to a purple shadow
The model did not look good in the end because you did not think about the combination of textures you are going for in your paint job. These are not mistakes - this is a lack of planning. The end result itself is really well made if you look at the separate parts - grimdark cloak, rusty axe, etherial parts with smooth transitions - however when this all comes together as a whole - this just does not looks right and the blood all over the place just highlights it. The clean look of the airbrushed transitions does not combine with an oil wash without additional weathering effects and vice versa. Also do not repaint this model again - keeping the models as-is is a good reminder for future projects.
Certainly we are all at different levels in our painting journey, there are lots of painters out there whose absolute worst day is still miles above my best day, and that’s to be expected. In this case I was just frustrated with how things were going and not getting the result I was looking for. Even more so, a result that I know I’m capable of. I guarantee that if you painted the very day, for even 15 minutes, you could paint as well or better than I do in a few months.
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Wonderfull video, you are right. Thanks
I respect your drive to turn these stumbling blocks into motivational videos for other painters. It’s reassuring to see someone like you with a significantly higher skill level than myself hit a snag, as well as how you recover.
I’m happy to hear that it comes across well. I always want to make sure I’m as transparent as possible in my videos, we are all human, and we all have to deal with issues like making mistakes. If anything I say helps even one person have a better time painting, then I will continue to do my best and make more videos.
Did Casey get a slowmo camera or is he just really slow??? :-) At least you had fun with the rest of the episode!
This was a fun video to make, despite the model lol. I’ve had the camera for a good while now, just not a lot of opportunities to use it. It’s 120p from a GoPro hero 7, and yeah, I was being extra slow about it lol.
It's always really good for me as a beginner to see experienced and accomplished painters share their struggle when they happen.
It's good to be reminded that this stuff is difficult and no one is safe from a bad painting day, but it's also very educational to have you walk through how you solve these adversities.
Thank you for sharing, from someone who is a total of five finished models into her hobby. :)
It’s an easy thing to forget sometimes. We all want to paint at a level we see in our heads, but it really does take time and patience to get there. 5 models down, that’s awesome!
The new space looks AWESOME!!
"There will be times that things just don't go your way" This is no painting lesson. It's a life lesson! Listen to the man. Pure gold there bro!
I've never painted a mini, but I enjoy watching you & others do it. I really appreciate videos like this & seeing the "boos boos" you make along with the fact that it is easy just to start over when a person isn't happy. That slow motion hammer part was great! Looking forward to more great videos.
I’m glad you enjoyed it! The hammer stuff was a fun change of pace, it made for a good time making an otherwise difficult video!
Failing isnt bad when your learning something from it ! Just to keep on pushing is good . Love this video !
So I’m new to your channel but I’ve gone and caught up. I have to say this is my favorite you’ve put out so far for a multitude of reasons. Perhaps my two favorite things about this are about addressing failure and being ok with it. The other is the format you used. This is sooo much better video format, it feels more personal and inviting the way you are sitting there talking with us, the viewers. Well done and so glad to be a subscriber now
Thank you for the kind words, and for being a subscriber :)
Every week is a new opportunity to improve, I can only hope that any improvements that I try and make will come through and help everyone get the most out of each video!
Thank you for making this video, I'm extremely unhappy with my Alpha Pattern Leman Russ right now and it helps knowing that I'm not the only one who occasionally struggles with my "solutions". Nice to see that even amazing painters such as yourself struggle with this stuff.
We are all human man, sometimes we just have bad days. I plan on shelving this model for a little bit to just look at it and think for a while. Sometimes that’s just what we have to do to get out of our own heads and come up with a new game plan! Good luck with your tank, I’m rooting for you :)
That’s why I love watching you. You show your mistakes and how you go around correcting it
one of the best episodes yet. Good job.
Thank you for this. It helps us newer guys understand that everyone makes mistakes and not to get disheartened by them but to learn and improve.
this happens for me quite a bit. I usually just leave it for a few days and I find it looks a lot better and I can spot what actually needs to be changed after not thinking about it for a while. Cheers!
This mini... I call mine "blob of paint with good looking post and axe".
Love the new setup!
Good points raised in the vid. Will admit I'm a tad upset you didn't put the hammer to it! 🔨😂
Lol, it was a close call, I thought about it for a while before filming that bit.
It’s not about how we fall, it’s about how we get back up.
I think in this case, it’s even better to have the process of what went wrong explained. We can see why it went wrong and learn from it. Great video as always.
i cant tell you how many times that I restarted this model, or repainted it. completely stripped it once. Finally I just called it, and thats the second photo that sits on my Instagram now. BUT each time that I approached it, I had learned from the last, and thats what really mattered in the end. Great job as always, and I loved that waywatcher green!
Every model has something to teach us. I will eventually go back to this one, just not any time soon lol. If you can find GW glazes anywhere, buy them all, they are so good!
I had some situations like yours, Casey) This is always frustrating, when you try do get job done again and again, but it's still not good enough. But I agree with you: finished work much better, than just blank page. Cause if you got job done, you took some experience.
Thank you for video!
Great video. I've learned in painting, like in life, haste makes waste. At the same time, it was a learning experience and that's what we are all here for. I've repainted my Lord Aquilor about 6 times now because I am never happy with the color scheme and contrast, but hey, it's just paint. Don't like it? Start over, it's that easy. Good job on sticking with it!
thank you for these wise words.
Thank you for showing your mistakes. I love your work and it helped me get back on the horse of painting. Learn, grow, enjoy!
We all crack, it's ok to take a physical and mental break.
Great video again.
Very true, probably something I need to do more often.
Hey Casey... let me say that your videos are getting better every time you publish a new one. Beside the miniature you paint, i see improvements in video quality, lights, location... That's also a good job, the miniature too... and btw, this is a really difficult miniature to paint! I like the humility you showed about mistakes... i do feel that!
Thanks for noticing man, I’m slowly getting everything together for a new hobby space! It’s almost done, and I can’t wait to start doing more work in the space. I’m finally being able to use my real cameras and get away from using my phone so much :)
@@eBayMiniatureRescues eheh i wish that day comes for me soon too! I'm also making videos using a phone... -.-'
This hits really close to home, I struggled 3 times to paint a goliath barbarian for D&D I'm still not thrilled with it but I had to put it down. I then ended up painting a bugbear for the same game and it went so well thanks to being mindful of what I struggled with, with the goliath.
I wanted to say thank you for this video. Watching somebody I like to learn from make mistakes really makes me feel better about my own expectations, and that even the best can lose track of their plans and intentions due to frustration. As a hobbyist, t's good to know that even somebody who's made a job out of this has to take a step back every now and again. It's something I can remember the next time I pick up a brush.
LOL when I saw you pull out the contrast paint I was like "please tell me he didn't do it AGAIN". Good to see you learned that lesson XD
I love it. Of course night-haunt are my favorite but it a good job to me.
I really like nighthaunt too, I mean, murdery ghosts, come on! I think I was just distracted this week and didn’t bring my best self to the painting table. Some of the other stuff I’ve done, like the black coach videos a while back, I really liked, and painting them felt pretty calm and easy going, this model was weirdly difficult for some reason.
halfway through the video, that chipped pink axe looks awesome.
I go really long periods of time between painting models to avoid being impatient or rushing. I have to be in the mood to paint. For the whole process, rather than just wanting to final result. I don't play any of the games, and just like to paint them, so that works for me, and the result is always much better than when I try to rush it.
That’s a great way to paint, then you know you’re in the mood to sit back and enjoy the process to the fullest! I always feel like I’m strapped for time and have to rush, which isn’t the best way to paint, and it’s something I’m hoping to fix for myself moving forward.
Great editing on this video :D I don't even paint miniatures (although I did when I was 13, about two decades ago) but I thoroughly enjoy watching your videos. Also, props for being brutally honest about your successes and failures - something every painter, player, athlete etc. does - but something very few are honest about.
every version of your model was better than anything I have ever done, lol.
I definitely got the same problem, almost all of my paint jobs dont suffer from a lack of painting skill.
They suffer from my lack of patience and my mistakes being more visable to me than everything i did fine.
I'm someone who wants to improve as fast sa they can.
I've been seriously painting minis for a little over 7 months.
It can be tough sometimes, I’m always trying to improve, every so often there are just those days!
@@eBayMiniatureRescues yeah i get those days alot, like once a week im just in my mojo and the rest im just not feeling it
i put some pictures of some of my finished miniatures up on my instagram if you'd like to see them
I think the axe at 11:50 looked spot on! I have this model still on the sprue and keep looking at it trying to decide how to paint it along with several more of his type. I thought you were using the hammer to get ideas for rust colours! The model has still turned out looking great, I think you are being too harsh a critic !
It’s possible I’m being too harsh on myself about it, there were several points where I liked the model, but in the end my own frustration got the best of me. Hopefully it’s a good lesson for everyone and it will help others get through harder painting days :)
Oh yeah, do I ever get to that stage you mention, where I get well into it and realize that at least one or two ideas I had are not nearly as cool as I anticipated they'd be! I'm not nearly as bad as I used to be about seeing only my mistakes on my miniatures, but I still have my moments when I say "OK...that sucked." But I'm improving at doing just what you mentioned; casting my eye onto the next model and saying "OK, I'll do better this time." It's a process, for sure.
Definitely a process! We all have to go through it, it’s what we learn that makes the difference. I’m working on the next video already and feeling good about it, so far lol.
Love the new set.
Tbh I really liked the second iteration, the bronzeish looking axe turning into blackish brownish smoke shifting into the ethereal green looked really cool to me
I found this mini quite hard to paint as well. He has a lot of flat surfaces and I’m not that experienced with painting.
With more practice it gets easier, but you’ll always find that there just those days when things don’t go your way.
eBay Miniature Rescues yes! Like you I probably did two or three versions of it all going wrong. I will come back to him one day.
Sounds like another youtuber I follow. Every mistake deserves respect.
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True.
Thanks for showing the "fails" it is healthy to show this stuff. More content creators should! Love your positivity you got me to buy my first model ever this week paints next. :-P
FWIW, I thought the red contrast paint on top of the streaking grime had a really cool effect and I was little sad you re-did it. Still came out awesome though!
Putting contrast paint over enamels does make a really cool blood stained effect, the oils makes the contrast really slick and separate a little. That was definitely one of the spots where I could have stopped, but I was getting a little ahead of myself lol. I did a video on painting a corpse cart a while back, that shows some really cool things that contrast does over oils :)
That pink axe against the ghostly green figure looks like something by the recently late, great Richard Corben.
Thank you so much for sharing this video :) This really builds some courage in me thinking I don't have to get everything perfect the first time heh... I learned something and I feel more brave about painting. :D
Just started watching your channel and I LOVE this video. Absolutely on par with Vince Venturella's Dealing With Failure. It's not that I want to watch anyone be unhappy- but man it's such a relief to know people who do this for a living face the same challenges and frustrations that I do. Goddamn this is the best group of people in the world. I'm so glad I started painting.
I found it quite interesting to watch a guy who paints better than I do getting frustrated, and it makes me feel better about my own screw-ups.
I've been having this problem with 2 of chaos Obliterators and one of my Greater Possesed, no matter what I did it just didn't work which just spiraled into more and more frustration. In the end I got them vaguely where I wanted them and moved on to the next model. I'll go back to them and re paint them at some point.
Sometimes it’s just better to let the paint job sit, give it some time and then come back. That’s my plan for this model, it’s done “enough” and I’ll revisit it someday :)
This was a great video. Despite how much trouble you were having with this Hangman model each color scheme you went with-I loved & it makes me want to track one of these down.
12:30 ‐ love that riff... and I was chanting ... do it do it do it!
😂 I just couldn’t bring myself to actually destroy it, regardless of the paint, the plastic is still good!
I Notice that with quarantine, my paint job is not as his optimum level! Going out, change our mind and see peoples and stuff outside help to be inspirate I think!
Nice video, nice message! Thanks :)
Having human contact, talking with friends and playing games definitely gives more motivation and inspiration for painting. It’s been tough to be in quarantine and stay positive with the hobby. Hopefully we will all be through this very soon and playing games with our friends again!!
@@eBayMiniatureRescues That's the spirit :)
Can't be a proper plastic modeller without a proper rage/stress out 'n back out moment. I'm also having a similar problem with my Eldar Falcon that I converted into a Warp Hunter. My paint job was...fine....but felt very vanilla and lacking. So I plan on covering up the whole thing with primer and doing an "Atlantis the Lost Empire" themed one (ancient with algae growth and an aged, water beaten look) when I calm down and de-stress.
Hah, yeah I think we’ve all been there. Some models just take a toll. Sounds like you have an awesome plan for that tank, and that’s a pretty good pull for inspiration :)
love the colors, I will need to try a ghost like this sometime. I can't wait until I have a space of my own as renting where I am I have no space to do anything yet a few months from now hopefully
I love it when people have the guts to go public with their mistakes made. You deserve all respect for doing that and helping people to learn. BTW is that "desert" you have been digging in your garden? If so - I think it will need some attention, too. :-)
I do feel it’s important to highlight them, nobody’s perfect :)
I live in the desert, there’s no sage brush in my backyard, but it surrounds all the properties out here. Looooots of work is needed to get some vegetation to grow. Luckily, I have several nice fruit trees and grapes that grow, so it’s a trade :)
I did the same thing with my (know no fear primaris Captain). I try 3 times to do it right, all my try’s fails, I keep my ugly captain to remember me. To don’t rush painting and try to take more easy.
Sick video, sick model, healthy message. Needed this today so thanks
I’m very glad it was helpful!
I thought that the axe handle was going to break. Nice save on the paint job! Looks great!
I thought it looked pretty cool(for what I would imagine would be a fairly difficult model to paint) It will be cool if your bring this back and paint it again in a future video!! would that make it a rescue-ception??? since its a rescue of a ebay rescue haha :D
Hahah, yeah inception rescue. I dig it :)
Hi I really liked this video, im feeling bit frustrated to with my minis in the last days so hey thanks
Glad I could help :)
Any paint job is better than grey plastic!! Damn straight
Cool model look hard to paint but I wood not be put down by it in the end look great have you ever thought of painting a space Marine rainbow Warriors model like see your adaptation on it if you did .
Awesome model I actually liked the first iteration the most lol. That axe handle seems really wobbly, I've noticed a lot of new GW stuff has a single point of contact with the base (Often posed on one leg etc) which makes them pretty fragile for gaming.
Some Pro advice on this video. Nice
Could a little fire yellow in the axe give a small accent to an overly cool paint job?
That pink axe was sweet! Might have to copy it... >:)
I got a question. How do you choose what model to by, and who to buy it from?
For the most part I just try not to buy the same or similar models too often, that way there is a good variety on the channel. Who to buy from depends on feedback from eBay. I try and only buy from people with 100%, and if they have less, I usually check to see why. If the negative feedback is just people complaining about something that has nothing to do with the person or company, then I’ll still buy from them. So far in more than 20 years on eBay I’ve really only had maybe 2 bad transactions. Hope that answers your question!
I am painting a load of Ghost guys from this army right now! I want one of these soooo much now :)
It’s a cool model, they are all over eBay too :)
How do you find these minis (on ebay)? I seem to never find anything interesting/worthwhile
Usually I go with a broad search of just “Warhammer”, then use the filters to go with “used” “painted” and between $3-$10. That way it really gets the list down and I see the things I want to see. The other part of it is checking as often as you can, at least once a day, and just snagging things when you can. Just be patient and you’ll find some really cool models for cheap!
This is super valuable. I love you.
Just found the channel. I’m hooked!!
Love the video man everyday you got to do what you love but mistakes are just part of the growing process =P
Definitely! Glad you liked it man :)
So a painted mini is better than a grey one eh?
I challenge you to paint a model in grey-scale; noir style. If you want, you can wash it with sepia afterwards.
Haha, not a bad idea, it’s actually a great way to learn volumes and get the model to a good standard without color. Then come in with some glazes and you’ve got a very well done (hopefully) mini. Marco Frisoni has a cool video about that.
I thought the rust on the hammer had something to do with your second go at painting the axe. Like inspiration.
The hammer does have some real good rust on it, definitely good for reference. It would have been good to use as inspiration, of course, I had something else in mind lol. More for the fun of making a video though, I was never gonna smash a perfectly good model.
we can only grow when we learn from the mistakes we make on our way. with every model, i mess somthing up, i have the opportunity to make it better on the next one!
i learned alot from casey in the past month's and i'm really happy about that
If you're someone who really likes to paint minis, this is a situation everyone is likely to come across.
Myself, I have a unit of zombies I bought about 3-4 years ago that I have painted twice and still haven't finished. First time around, I had a colour scheme chosen but didn't like how the skin was turning out. I put it aside, forgot about it, and tried it again when Contrast paints came out. This time, I liked the direction the skin was going but then disliked how the tattered clothes I did now looked flat and boring. They now sit as my own testament of not trying to force a project to completion... and another lesson in not trying to do 20 models in one session without doing a test model first.
Would have made a interesting rescue story if you first smashed it to bits with a hammer and then tried to glue it back together xD
Hahah, that would have been interesting!
I think it would be cool to have a video on repairing models though, the amount of times servoskulls snap off is annoying
@@eBayMiniatureRescues do it with an ork vehicle and no one would be able to tell.
That model seems to lend itself to a perfect conversion...
Remove the noose and build a Gibbet cage around the spirit. (possibly a broken open gibbet cage with a partial skeleton inside.)
it would look amazing, though you'd probably have to scratch build the Gibbet
Great vid. Yep, once you feel frustration creeping in, drop the brush and walk away. Come back later. Still though, I'm so jealous of your skill and precision with an airbrush.
I empathize with you on this one; this was my painting journey on what was going to be my Everchosen competition entry. I chose something outside my comfort zone (Nurgle Lord of Blights), designed a cool looking base that still fit within parameters (diseased swamp) and had a great idea (to go for a yellow, jaundiced skin tone) and everything went wrong from there. The water effect on my base cracked (which I'd never had happen before) and it took me months to realize what had happened; I used *really* porous cork with big voids in it as the landmass and it actually absorbed the water effect as it was curing, creating these deep cracks, which only go worse when I tried to fill them because the cork kept absorbing the acrylic (I still have that failed base by the way, and only realized about a month or so afterward what had happened because I accidentally hit the cork with a metal sculpting tool and the impact was much more substantial than it should have been as if I'd hit a solid resin piece). That pretty much ended that project, but before that I struggled with getting the color right on the skin and never did succeed. After a couple of months, I stripped it and its now primed with a new base (different cork this time and sealed extra well just to be sure) and waiting for me to try again.
There most definitely comes a time when you're painting where you hit that point; the point where you should stop messing with it and just call it done. Its so easy to miss the signs though, and most hobbyists I know have at least 3 or 4 stories of similar projects where they finally had to put it aside, then strip it later and start with a fresh palette. Although, for a second there, I did think you were going to go full on "Dead by Daylight" on that model and I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't have found it at least a little satisfying, on behalf of everyone who's had that struggle.
Yeah we all get to that point sometimes, definitely better to let it sit and try again another day!
I really thought about following through with that hammer, really thought about it...it would have been satisfying for a second I think, and then I would have felt even worse lol.
Idea for a 2nd channel....eBay Miniature Rescues his backyard .
Lol, there’s so much work to do I could legit make an entire channel dedicated to doing it.
@@eBayMiniatureRescues - in all seriousness, thanks for this vid. It's for lack of a better term "refreshing" to see that people that do this on a professional level have the same struggles as us choads :)
I’m glad that comes across man, mistakes are part of growth, and we are all, always, trying to improve, so they are inevitable. It’s how you deal with and recover from them that keeps you moving forward :)
Is that a darksiders statue in the back?
As cool as that would be, no, it’s an Ironjawz Maw Krusha and a Noise Marine on a display base.
Cool ill definitely have to check that out😊
Even if it didn't work the pink axe was a good idea.
I think there was a moment, for a second or two, where it looked pretty cool, then I went and painted over it lol. Guaranteed I will be trying more hot pink blades in the future :)
@@eBayMiniatureRescues I think it's the creativity aspect of it. Weapons are grey metal, for undead they're probably rusted. But what is you made it glowing pink and make it work? That's cool.
Still better than me, although I've yet to paint my first model! They are in the post and I chose Genestealers and Nighthaunt!
Could you do a studio tour ?
I will be putting out a video on the subject as soon as the studio is finished :) it’s almost there!
Not that I'm any sort of great painter or artist, but I think you ran into a "mixed style" problem with this mini. You seemed to be going for an ultra gritty "grimdark" shroud and gibbet on the mini, but mixing that with a very bright and almost neon ethereal mist and enchanted axe. I've yet to see anyone who can mix those two styles on the same mini and really pull it off. The two big "mistakes" in my view are attempting the chipping effect over the neon axe blade, and the blood spatter on the spirits. That's where you seemed to be trying to unify the gritty and the fantastic and it just didn't come together. Of the two, I think the axe blade was more successful, and probably could have pulled together to create an interesting look. I might have tried to tone down the pink and work more off of the quincridone red, taking a little of the neon effect off.
The blood spatter, I find really difficult to pull off effectively. Just a random spritzing of blood always seems to just miss the mark. Where I've seen it done most effectively, it almost has it's own story to it the same way a good highlight, NMM, or OSL effect has. What I mean by that is there's a varying density to the spatter on the mini, such that you can see where the spatter came from, where the primary impact points were, and where the blood has pooled.
I dunno, these are just my random thoughts and reactions watching the video.
I haven't painted for many years (getting ready to do a little painting over Christmas with a new paint set), but I was thinking about how I would paint that miniature differently:
Does blood spattering on spirits make sense? I wouldn't paint blood spatter on anything ethereal, unless maybe the blood drops were completely fresh (maybe glossy 3D droplets) to suggest the blood had sprayed at just that moment; the skulls I might paint as physical skulls surrounded by ethereal vapors, but I'm not sure how well I could paint the transition. Blood on the axe I might paint as spattering upward rather than dripping down or pooling for a (hopefully_ dynamic effect.
Something I can't make up my mind about on this figure is the noose: The rope, if it is obeying gravity, should hang straight down.. but then again (a) he's a ghost, and (b) if he's moving forward very fast then the rope would swing toward him.
Still a thousand times better than anything i paint lol
I think your hammer was actually forged in the age of Sigmar as well, great weathering :) Cheers!!
The reason we fail is to learn from it
I would have killed the blood on the ghost/spirit bits but keep it on the covering over the head/back... the change on the axe looked better on your initial revision over the pink.
Agreed. Someday when I do this model again, I’m gonna think about it a little more before putting paint down. In the mean time, it’s done enough to play some Warcry, and the next model is calling my name :)
what model is that because it is just really epic looking
Games Workshop Nighthaunt Lord Executioner.
So may be the question might have been, how does an ethereal get rust? It is only marginally in this realm, ya know?
For sure, it’s one of the things that wasn’t super solid in my head, so when actually getting to it I was breaking the rules laid out by the ‘question.’ If one part is in this realm, it can have a more a more textured, rusted, or bloody look. What I ended up doing was putting that onto the parts that were not in this realm, so I broke the question, or just didn’t consider it. So blood on the ghosts, no good, blood on the leather, totally fine. Setting up rules to follow can make for a nice consistent army, knowing what colors or effects go where and when are all part of it. Asking yourself these questions before you jump in to painting will often lead to better results. In this case, I thought about it, but didn’t really follow it.
Came across this video in a timely fashion, painting up my swampcalla shaman and it's just annoying me with the fiddly details that are so different from the rest of the Kruleboyz and all the little nooks & crannies. But it doesn't have to be perfect, just cohesive with the rest of the Boyz from 3ft away, and look good enough from where the eye can normally see the detail.
Do you ever worry about getting copyright strikes for music?
I was always scared to use music I’m my own videos because of that.
If you use music you don’t own then you will get your videos taken down. I use a combination of Artlist and Epidemicsound tracks that are prescreened for RUclips, so I’m always safe from any issues. If you don’t want to pay for services like those, RUclips has a pretty great selection available for free in the studio.
Any Chance to get the title if the track that's starting on 1,49?
:D
How do the bobs of blood stick on a ghost?
Shit happens... Sometimes you just have to accept, that your skill or the thing you want achieve is not achieveable right now.. I just try to make the best out of it and declare a paintjob finished at some point to start the next one. Looking forward to the Chaplain I've send you ;)... And other Vids to come.
Exactly! And that chaplain should be fun, thanks again!!
put speed to 2x. thank me later
uses Titanium White and says a mistake is an opportunity.... are you Bob Ross returned???? you can tell us
Haha, I don’t think anyone is as awesome as Bob Ross. I am definitely a big fan though, and as much as I can possibly muster, I will try and spread his good message to the painters in this hobby :)
@@eBayMiniatureRescues next time you use Titanium White, say it like Bob does hehe
I need to learn how to stop before I do too much. I realize that a lot of the times when I paint, the model could have been better if I just stopped adding addition stuff. I've been doing the less is more thing now, and it's been a big improvement!
Is this admech at work?
GAH I cant stand those stabilized cameras, I almost barf every time. To match the purple axe you could have pushed all the ghostly stuff to a purple shadow
The model did not look good in the end because you did not think about the combination of textures you are going for in your paint job. These are not mistakes - this is a lack of planning. The end result itself is really well made if you look at the separate parts - grimdark cloak, rusty axe, etherial parts with smooth transitions - however when this all comes together as a whole - this just does not looks right and the blood all over the place just highlights it. The clean look of the airbrushed transitions does not combine with an oil wash without additional weathering effects and vice versa. Also do not repaint this model again - keeping the models as-is is a good reminder for future projects.
But what if the model is painted to look like gray plastic? Checkmate pro-painters.
Lol, I kinda want to see that now.
i have two of this model.
The whole video is you saying how bad it is but its still better then my best model
Certainly we are all at different levels in our painting journey, there are lots of painters out there whose absolute worst day is still miles above my best day, and that’s to be expected. In this case I was just frustrated with how things were going and not getting the result I was looking for. Even more so, a result that I know I’m capable of. I guarantee that if you painted the very day, for even 15 minutes, you could paint as well or better than I do in a few months.
@@eBayMiniatureRescues doubt It, after watching a couple of your videos I feel I need this ak streaking grime
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