@Aaron Van Domelen yeah its so much more helpful cause i ran into so many of these same issues that i wouldnt have known what to do with if they had just skipped to when everything worked.
Hey! Love your tutorials! I'm moving from FCPX to Resolve. Cloud collab between editor/director (me) and colourist (remote) is one of the big reasons. Our projects are multi-cam shoots and have huge media pools (15TB to 25TB is common - 5 or 6 cameras shooting 4 or 5 days in ArriRAW UHD for example). I don't want to work off a NAS, I need a fast RAID directly attached for my multicam to work well - and the colourist def doesn't want to be from a remote server over the 'net. BM (in their own demo video) suggests you share footage on a DropBox, but uploading 20TB to DropBox would take days. We've tried just using our own copies of the media on local drives, it didn't work - each user had to relink media and that unlinked the other user when they did so. This turned out to because our file paths were different (and they always will be as your home folder will be your own name, on a Mac at least) it just doesn't work. Eventually we figured out how to make it work by using the file path settings in project management to point Resolve to the media drive via each users' unique file path. (You need any folder structure beyond that to be the same, so best for all to work off mirrored clones of the master drive). The file-path settings menu is pretty niche and I can't find much about it, beyond a single page in the manual... And this seems like a crucial step in utilising the Cloud sharing - after all, isn't the point not having to serve the media but only the project? This must be a common situation... once shooting is done the media won't change, so no need for syncing, just take home your own copy. This difficulty in linking the Media Pool between users feels like a major obstacle on Cloud collaboration working as people might imagine it would. It can be fixed but only by using some niche PM settings. Would you consider a deeper dive in to how to use Cloud project sharing when each user has their own, local copy of the project media? What do you think? Thanks! Tim (www.timvansomeren.com)
hi Tim - just wondering if (7 months later) you landed on a reasonable workflow? you described the most likely situation in my mind re cloned drives going to different places... but cloud collaboration could (is?) be amazing in many respects...
@@coreyhendrickson Hi Corey. The Cloud in BM is great Here are the ways I use it: - For small data projects (less than 500GB ish) I put all media in a Dropbox. Each user can set a file path in the project settings to their own dropbox and then media will stay in sync. I do this for personal projects as well as multi-user as it means I can work off my desktop or laptop and always have the latest version. I also set my Cache, Optimised Media and Proxy Media to be in the DropBox so this all stays sync'ed as well. Be warned, you can't open a local version if you are off-line. So don't think you can open it on a plane for example. You can easily move the project to a local drive if you want to work off-line. Just do this before you need it! - For large data projects (more than 500GB - any size where int would be impractical to upload media to the cloud) we make clone drives of initial source media after the shoot and physically give one to each user. In the cloud project we use file paths to navigate to our own drive's top level folder, then the rest will match between users as your drives are cloned and will work for everyone. I then use Dropbox for new media that comes in after the edit has begun. So if GFX, or credits, or new audio mixes, or any smaller updated media is added, put this in the dropbox so all users have it and they will see the new media when they open on their machine. An alternate way is for all users but one to use proxies. This is because you can work in proxies even if you don't have the camera originals. As long as you select "prefer proxies" in the playback menu, it works fine. So, one user (the colourist usually) gets the master drive with the Raw footage. They make proxies and set the Dropbox as the proxy location. Then others can work on proxies only with no real drawbacks (apart from resolution, but ProRes Proxy, for example, looks great).
@@coreyhendrickson No problem. With your NAS v Cloud question: The main reason BlackMagic Cloud works for me is because each user keeps their Source Media LOCALLY. The *project* is kept in the cloud on BlackMagic's servers, but actual *media* does NOT have to stream from a remote server, you already have it on or physically attached to your editing computer. The first principle of this working in a multi-user set-up is that each user needs EXACTLY the SAME media so that the SHARED PROJECT works for everyone. The easiest way to achieve this duplicated source media is with a service that sync's a every user's local storage folder - and this is exactly what DropBox does - so it's the easiest way to have matching LOCAL storage with another user. A NAS is storage that is not local to you (unless you are the owner of the physical NAS drive). If a remote user is linking to a NAS via the internet, then they are now streaming footage for their edit over the 'net (rather than from a local drive) and that slows things down - exactly what I (personally) don't want with my multi camera editing. So a NAS would only be useful if it was a source for syncing my local drive with another user's local drive. And we have DropBox so why bother with a NAS? Does that make sense?
Logically it’s impossible for two or more people to edit on one timeline, that would cause all worlds of hurt, since on edit might split and move two clips while someone else moves that clip to another space and trim it - so locking a timeline is logical. Where this collab tool is powerfull is with cross disipline collabs, so one person is editing on one timeline, another is editing on another timeline/segment (not sure if this is possible now, but it should work), while another person is grading, since grading is actually not changing the original clip, grading just adds «commands» to a clip, a receipe for how to alter the pixel values at render time, and another could work on sound - so several people working on different aspects of a project is what this is for. Of course, you would never work on editing a timeline while someone else adds audio effects, since clip position and sound effect needs to match, but editing/mastering the audio tracks (like compressor, eq, effects etc) doesn’t alter the audio clips, and is not dependent on knowing where in the timeline they are, and same with color grade, it’s not dependent on video clip position in timeline is. Same thing with fusion, making a fusion clip is independent on where on the timeline the clip is, so an editor might move it around while someone is adding text effects to a clip and it should not cause problems.
Hej Casey: Big Thank you for not just talking about the feature, but actually trying it out! Helps a lot to understand the tools. Also pretty well edited, as you can see and feel how it goes. Great video.
I am so learning everything about DaVinci 18 from you!!!!! Thank you for everything you do I needed and your are are there giving me exactly what I needed! 🙏🏽
I think the big difference between what was done here, and what they did in the demo is the two of you used mirrored content in two locations, and they use a server with a shared single content source. With mirrored content I believe one person would have to be the project owner/manager and the other are limited collaborators in order to decide who has the right to alter and remove things from the project, because otherwise it could lead to accidental file mismatches or worse remote project hijackers.
So, like I am completely new to DeVinci Resolve. That is because my Shotcut kept crashing on me and I wanted to see if I had better luck with Resolve. I'm not that savvy with computers to begin with so maybe it is my comp, who the heck knows. Glad I found you guys. :)
Having set up and used the local project database server for some projects now I can say it's invaluable once you have multiple people on the same project. It's not that hard to use but if you have a large network, aka more than one subnet, it quickly becomes cumbersome to manage. Not sure why but in 17 they wrote the database code to not be allowed to go across subnets by default. Had to have a super nerd friend do some crazy code editing to fix that. They did update the project server with Resolve 18 but for $5 per project database, and you don't have to manage that internally, it's a no brainer to go with the Blackmagic managed cloud solution. That also means you can work anywhere instead of just on site where the server is. At least without network VPN trickery. As long as you have a local copy of the source files. We use a NAS on site so content is central for editors. You added the comment in the video but there's basically two ways to work with shared projects. One is simply the project is shared and up to date without any version conflicts. Person A works on something, closes the project, person B picks up where A left off. That alone, without the potential for version conflicts (like with Drive or Dropbox timeline sharing) is great. A second person can open the same project at the same time but in read only mode. The next step is what you found part way through, multiple user collaboration. Now you both can have the same project open at the same time, you just can't edit the same timeline at the same time. One can edit, while another colors the same timeline, but otherwise you're on different timelines to be most effective. Or different tabs, one starts a rough edit while another works on Fusion graphics, ingests and organizes media, stuff like that. Ideally you would break things down further than one timeline. Person A works on an intro, B works on an interview, C works on B roll, stuff like that. Now you are all in the same project at the same time, but without competing for who is controlling timelines. For a short video, or a simple edit, that may not make sense. But for a large show with lots of parts, then it's amazing.
@@MoTheFcker Honestly I don't know. They make that feature for big production houses that need the security of having everything local. Big companies may not allow any cloud syncing to help with corporate theft. I don't have to worry about that, ha ha. Testing the cloud feature to not need the local project server anymore. If you know how to edit PostGre SQL databases, then you can edit the permissions and have project server work across an entire network with multiple subnets. I watched my buddy make it work and I got very lost very fast lol. But if you know that stuff, it's probably not that hard.
Dang and this thing is FREE, think I might just buy it to support them for all the free they have given us over the years. Kudos to these guys and you Casey for providing so much help and support to their software.
Excellent - so much power in Resolve 18 and we all will have the same struggles as you guys since some of this is not immediately intuitive - besides real men do not need to read the manuals. :). I have found you learn by watching or having examples. Hence RUclips Videos. :). Good job showing the real struggles to get it right and working.
And prey tell how does one get the Video Files and project to some one else? Do you have to do an (Export Project Archive) thru Drop Box or Google Drive?
In this case, they could both share the same network storage in the building. If they were "across state lines", they would set up a shared DropBox folder (online) and point their copies of Resolve to their own respective DropBox local folders. Blackmagic Cloud syncs the project, it does not sync the media.
@@gregh99 To be clear, with DR Cloud and DropBox we can share and edit a project remotely? I won't need any other specific hardware, other than a pc on the other end?
I like that collab is designed for editor doing edits, while the sound and color grading get done at the same time. Which makes sense in a way, you wouldn't need your colorist to muck around with the timeline, just like you wouldn't need your sound expert doing fusion work...
That was awesome. Did both of you have the same path to the media locally? I was not clear on how the media got shared. Was it in the cloud? Local network server shared disk? We do collab here using a mac mini as the DB server and a NAS for shared media. This cloud dealio is innnerestink tho :)
Thanks! That was great to see. It's awesome and great it's also available in the free version. It might be also great for a quick feedback process:Just showing client or collaboration partner how a certain grade would look like and he/she can instantly feedback to you from a remote place or perhaps give it a try himself. Also great for training purposes? You as a teacher can watch what the student is doing and intervene like a "driving instructor". I imagine it can speed up things a lot. Will be nevertheless waiting a bit for a version when it's a little "less beta".
Hey Casey, I'm seeking a tutorial on how to manage media in general. I have tons of raw video clips, PNGs, sound effects, audio tracks, etc. For each project, I usually place them all in one folder but then I find myself reusing elements in other projects here and there. Once I move all these folders to my backup sever, all my links become a mess. What's the best way to organize digital data in Windows/MAC folders as well as Davinci Resolve?
amazing video! thanks :) How are you setup? both of you have to have the cloud pod or only one? If there are another editor in other country have to have another cloud pod? gracias!!!
Hey ! How does it handle plugins (FilmConvert, Dehancer, Scatter, etc) or LUTs that are not present on each collaborating machine ? Any way to preview a grade made by the colorist with those tools if they are not installed in the editor’s Resolve app for example ? Thanks !
I'm thinking it's a good thing that only one can edit at any given time - you mess with my edit and there'll be trouble 😂🤣 but feel free to grade it 👍 Great way to demo because that's how most will start!
Thank you for a great video tutorial. Just wondering... I don't need to, nor want collaboration. With that said, what are the advantages, if any, of signing up for the Blackmagic Cloud?
I recently purchased a Blackmagic speed editor and got a serial key for Davinci Resolve Studio 17, would i be able to get a free upgrade to Davince Resolve Studio 18?
What about the network? Is there any tutorial out there showing how to use it on a network? Or should i select cloud when the 2 pc's are on the local network?
Yeah just use it over the cloud. Thats what we do and it works great. You can do a local network thing, but it's a ton of work to set up. Cloud is super easy
@@CaseyFaris Yeah ive just come to realise this lol, tried setting up 2 pc's as me and my brother work on projects together and it's a nightmare. Gonna give cloud a shot! thanks Casey!!
What about plugins? Will all collaborators have access to the plugins that are used in the project, as far as being able to edit parameters, make changes, add plugins, etc? I can't find the answer to this anywhere on the web.
But how can I work on a project locally (because its faster) and then when its time to color it, send a link to someone for them to have the "cloud version" of it? You know what im sayin?
When you are dragging media into the cloud, where are you dragging it from? I can't figure out how to get media in there that is usable without the drive being plugged in. Helpppp pleeeeease
How does it handle media? I assume it's not uploading and storing the media in the cloud. Do you each have to have the same media and relinked? Or does cloud upload proxies?
Recently subbed to the cloud server for better collaboration and workflow but I get the amber "I" icon saying incompatible. It appears my DR version isn't up to par. Even though it is v18, I think it still has to be the latest one to work. I need to upgrade to test that out
This probably sounds foolish , but does both editors need the exact same footage on drives to access everything. ? Or can one have it edit in cloud .. & it will be there for next editor
Literally asked a second time: Casey why don't U answer questions: Is the CLOUD available to FREE Davinci 18 or just studio 18? next question would this be good for TEACHING some one to edit or is it for 2 experienced editors to work on different fazes of a project like coloring etc? Also can U mix FREE and STUDIO in Cloud Colegration?
Is the COLOW avaiable to FREE Davinci 18 or just studio 18? next question would this be good for TEACHING some one to edit or is it for 2 experienced editors to work on different fazes of a project like coloring etc?
Hello, Casey I need help trying to use the cloud collaboration with my brother but each time one of us edits a video the other user tries to refresh’s it but it’s shows “Media Offline” and can’t access it?
Hey, im from Argentina, this feature is not active for my country yet, but i have a question since i recorded a documentary (tons and tons of GB of material). The question is: if my partner has a copy of all the files in his hard disk, can he "link" the media? or is a MUST to have all the files in the cloud? thanks and suscribed!
Cool feature and video. Anyone know if someone has an existing project stored locally - can they make that a cloud project and invite others to collaborate on it? Or does it only work for a new project created in the cloud?
What I kinda want to know is how you can send an edit to someone for coloring with proxies (like with the Cloud Store storage with proxies auto-generated). Can they grade on the proxies instead of having to download the originals? Would it be hard to grade since they wouldn't be the data-rich files? The grades would probably obviously copy over to the originals when re-linked, but... idk... that's my main question.
What if you save after each edit then the other refreshes. Would they then have control? When it was single user, it would work when you saved. So I wonder if it would work the same way with multi user collab?
For Beta, it’s working really well…Not sure an actual workflow would resemble what you guys were trying to do 😂 But I’m like that also, who needs to read up on anything! lol
Collaboration in DR is no longer free? I was following steps in other videos, including this one and these options don't exist, until I go to the website and it says it is an extra monthly fee
@@CaseyFaris Nice. I'm working with a couple of kids who do the "rough cuts" and sometimes I want to correct it, Add to it - And now I need to upload the project and media to cloud, download it to me, Make the changes, Do some color corrections, upload it again, Then they download it again... You get the point.
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Literally make this a series. 2 Editors struggling to test to collab features with little to no editing, the best.
+1
@Aaron Van Domelen yeah its so much more helpful cause i ran into so many of these same issues that i wouldnt have known what to do with if they had just skipped to when everything worked.
Please make this a series! Y’all are better than a sitcom.
You are a genious in placing irritating pauses mixed it with useful information. Definitely the most funny teaching i have seen on youtube.
That was hilarious 👍and informative 👍
Please do more of these! Great way to learn
Hey! Love your tutorials!
I'm moving from FCPX to Resolve. Cloud collab between editor/director (me) and colourist (remote) is one of the big reasons.
Our projects are multi-cam shoots and have huge media pools (15TB to 25TB is common - 5 or 6 cameras shooting 4 or 5 days in ArriRAW UHD for example).
I don't want to work off a NAS, I need a fast RAID directly attached for my multicam to work well - and the colourist def doesn't want to be from a remote server over the 'net.
BM (in their own demo video) suggests you share footage on a DropBox, but uploading 20TB to DropBox would take days.
We've tried just using our own copies of the media on local drives, it didn't work - each user had to relink media and that unlinked the other user when they did so.
This turned out to because our file paths were different (and they always will be as your home folder will be your own name, on a Mac at least) it just doesn't work.
Eventually we figured out how to make it work by using the file path settings in project management to point Resolve to the media drive via each users' unique file path.
(You need any folder structure beyond that to be the same, so best for all to work off mirrored clones of the master drive).
The file-path settings menu is pretty niche and I can't find much about it, beyond a single page in the manual...
And this seems like a crucial step in utilising the Cloud sharing - after all, isn't the point not having to serve the media but only the project?
This must be a common situation... once shooting is done the media won't change, so no need for syncing, just take home your own copy.
This difficulty in linking the Media Pool between users feels like a major obstacle on Cloud collaboration working as people might imagine it would.
It can be fixed but only by using some niche PM settings.
Would you consider a deeper dive in to how to use Cloud project sharing when each user has their own, local copy of the project media?
What do you think?
Thanks!
Tim (www.timvansomeren.com)
hi Tim - just wondering if (7 months later) you landed on a reasonable workflow? you described the most likely situation in my mind re cloned drives going to different places... but cloud collaboration could (is?) be amazing in many respects...
@@coreyhendrickson
Hi Corey. The Cloud in BM is great
Here are the ways I use it:
- For small data projects (less than 500GB ish) I put all media in a Dropbox.
Each user can set a file path in the project settings to their own dropbox and then media will stay in sync.
I do this for personal projects as well as multi-user as it means I can work off my desktop or laptop and always have the latest version.
I also set my Cache, Optimised Media and Proxy Media to be in the DropBox so this all stays sync'ed as well.
Be warned, you can't open a local version if you are off-line. So don't think you can open it on a plane for example. You can easily move the project to a local drive if you want to work off-line. Just do this before you need it!
- For large data projects (more than 500GB - any size where int would be impractical to upload media to the cloud) we make clone drives of initial source media after the shoot and physically give one to each user. In the cloud project we use file paths to navigate to our own drive's top level folder, then the rest will match between users as your drives are cloned and will work for everyone.
I then use Dropbox for new media that comes in after the edit has begun. So if GFX, or credits, or new audio mixes, or any smaller updated media is added, put this in the dropbox so all users have it and they will see the new media when they open on their machine.
An alternate way is for all users but one to use proxies.
This is because you can work in proxies even if you don't have the camera originals. As long as you select "prefer proxies" in the playback menu, it works fine.
So, one user (the colourist usually) gets the master drive with the Raw footage.
They make proxies and set the Dropbox as the proxy location.
Then others can work on proxies only with no real drawbacks (apart from resolution, but ProRes Proxy, for example, looks great).
@@timvs you are generous to share in such detail - thank you! is there a reason you chose cloud over NAS?
@@coreyhendrickson
No problem.
With your NAS v Cloud question:
The main reason BlackMagic Cloud works for me is because each user keeps their Source Media LOCALLY.
The *project* is kept in the cloud on BlackMagic's servers, but actual *media* does NOT have to stream from a remote server, you already have it on or physically attached to your editing computer.
The first principle of this working in a multi-user set-up is that each user needs EXACTLY the SAME media so that the SHARED PROJECT works for everyone.
The easiest way to achieve this duplicated source media is with a service that sync's a every user's local storage folder - and this is exactly what DropBox does - so it's the easiest way to have matching LOCAL storage with another user.
A NAS is storage that is not local to you (unless you are the owner of the physical NAS drive).
If a remote user is linking to a NAS via the internet, then they are now streaming footage for their edit over the 'net (rather than from a local drive) and that slows things down - exactly what I (personally) don't want with my multi camera editing.
So a NAS would only be useful if it was a source for syncing my local drive with another user's local drive.
And we have DropBox so why bother with a NAS?
Does that make sense?
thanks to do this so natural and real! like this we can see the things that happens to everyone hahah
this is so exciting to me. i can't wait for the full release version. so many things will be so much easier for me and the people i colab with.
The new „Project Library“ sounds so much less intimidating then “DATABASE” 😂
Very entertaining video as always! 🔥
in my opinion Davinci was already the best and they just keep getting better... AND IT'S FREE 🤯
exactly
😂😂😂 some great laugh out loud moments in there. Great duo haha
More. Do more of these. Cos this is what we all do at home. In fact, do it live, and let everyone weigh in on chat. More. Do more. Please.
Logically it’s impossible for two or more people to edit on one timeline, that would cause all worlds of hurt, since on edit might split and move two clips while someone else moves that clip to another space and trim it - so locking a timeline is logical.
Where this collab tool is powerfull is with cross disipline collabs, so one person is editing on one timeline, another is editing on another timeline/segment (not sure if this is possible now, but it should work), while another person is grading, since grading is actually not changing the original clip, grading just adds «commands» to a clip, a receipe for how to alter the pixel values at render time, and another could work on sound - so several people working on different aspects of a project is what this is for. Of course, you would never work on editing a timeline while someone else adds audio effects, since clip position and sound effect needs to match, but editing/mastering the audio tracks (like compressor, eq, effects etc) doesn’t alter the audio clips, and is not dependent on knowing where in the timeline they are, and same with color grade, it’s not dependent on video clip position in timeline is.
Same thing with fusion, making a fusion clip is independent on where on the timeline the clip is, so an editor might move it around while someone is adding text effects to a clip and it should not cause problems.
Hej Casey: Big Thank you for not just talking about the feature, but actually trying it out! Helps a lot to understand the tools. Also pretty well edited, as you can see and feel how it goes. Great video.
I am so learning everything about DaVinci 18 from you!!!!! Thank you for everything you do I needed and your are are there giving me exactly what I needed! 🙏🏽
I honestly loved the rawness of this lol You are a god amongst men with Resolve and seeing you tinker and struggle made me feel better :D
I think the big difference between what was done here, and what they did in the demo is the two of you used mirrored content in two locations, and they use a server with a shared single content source. With mirrored content I believe one person would have to be the project owner/manager and the other are limited collaborators in order to decide who has the right to alter and remove things from the project, because otherwise it could lead to accidental file mismatches or worse remote project hijackers.
Does this work if only one person has the rushes? Or do both people involved need the media?
@@mattrobinson-filmmaker3209 I'm probably not the best person to answer this question as I've not shifted to 18 yet.
So, like I am completely new to DeVinci Resolve. That is because my Shotcut kept crashing on me and I wanted to see if I had better luck with Resolve. I'm not that savvy with computers to begin with so maybe it is my comp, who the heck knows. Glad I found you guys. :)
Bravo! This tutorial was a true reality show. Loved every frame.
Oh my God! I love you're vids. I've learned sooooo much, but watching you two work this out has been the highlight of my week 🤣🤣
Hilarious! I’m already a big fan of you. This video made my day. I love it 😍
love the sound of that keyboard... :)
Cool video. Thanks
Your videos always get me into such a good mood, Casey!
Having set up and used the local project database server for some projects now I can say it's invaluable once you have multiple people on the same project. It's not that hard to use but if you have a large network, aka more than one subnet, it quickly becomes cumbersome to manage. Not sure why but in 17 they wrote the database code to not be allowed to go across subnets by default. Had to have a super nerd friend do some crazy code editing to fix that.
They did update the project server with Resolve 18 but for $5 per project database, and you don't have to manage that internally, it's a no brainer to go with the Blackmagic managed cloud solution. That also means you can work anywhere instead of just on site where the server is. At least without network VPN trickery. As long as you have a local copy of the source files. We use a NAS on site so content is central for editors.
You added the comment in the video but there's basically two ways to work with shared projects. One is simply the project is shared and up to date without any version conflicts. Person A works on something, closes the project, person B picks up where A left off. That alone, without the potential for version conflicts (like with Drive or Dropbox timeline sharing) is great. A second person can open the same project at the same time but in read only mode.
The next step is what you found part way through, multiple user collaboration. Now you both can have the same project open at the same time, you just can't edit the same timeline at the same time. One can edit, while another colors the same timeline, but otherwise you're on different timelines to be most effective. Or different tabs, one starts a rough edit while another works on Fusion graphics, ingests and organizes media, stuff like that.
Ideally you would break things down further than one timeline. Person A works on an intro, B works on an interview, C works on B roll, stuff like that. Now you are all in the same project at the same time, but without competing for who is controlling timelines. For a short video, or a simple edit, that may not make sense. But for a large show with lots of parts, then it's amazing.
does the new project server still only work with the same subnet?
@@MoTheFcker Honestly I don't know. They make that feature for big production houses that need the security of having everything local. Big companies may not allow any cloud syncing to help with corporate theft. I don't have to worry about that, ha ha. Testing the cloud feature to not need the local project server anymore.
If you know how to edit PostGre SQL databases, then you can edit the permissions and have project server work across an entire network with multiple subnets. I watched my buddy make it work and I got very lost very fast lol. But if you know that stuff, it's probably not that hard.
Dang and this thing is FREE, think I might just buy it to support them for all the free they have given us over the years. Kudos to these guys and you Casey for providing so much help and support to their software.
You guys are great together.👍🏾good information
So great for Remote teams. I'm all over this.
Love it. Thanks for taking the time .. both to you and Sam! --chris
Excellent - so much power in Resolve 18 and we all will have the same struggles as you guys since some of this is not immediately intuitive - besides real men do not need to read the manuals. :). I have found you learn by watching or having examples. Hence RUclips Videos. :). Good job showing the real struggles to get it right and working.
What would happen if I for example have some thrid-party add-ons (like let's say XX Brand Noise Remover) but the other user doesnt?
that was a fun way to learn
Very cool addition to the solution. awesome ending BTW
Thanks! Very useful. First real life impression.
So, do both parties have to have the footage, or is it only necessary for one of them? Either way this looks awesome!
Both of them!
And prey tell how does one get the Video Files and project to some one else? Do you have to do an (Export Project Archive) thru Drop Box or Google Drive?
@@HoundDogMech I read that it automatically generates proxy files and links them through dropbox.
In this case, they could both share the same network storage in the building. If they were "across state lines", they would set up a shared DropBox folder (online) and point their copies of Resolve to their own respective DropBox local folders. Blackmagic Cloud syncs the project, it does not sync the media.
@@gregh99 To be clear, with DR Cloud and DropBox we can share and edit a project remotely? I won't need any other specific hardware, other than a pc on the other end?
I like that collab is designed for editor doing edits, while the sound and color grading get done at the same time. Which makes sense in a way, you wouldn't need your colorist to muck around with the timeline, just like you wouldn't need your sound expert doing fusion work...
The fact that this is free is reason enough to move, with Adobe I need an extra subscription plan that's only available for annual payment
@Casey Faris Can you make a more up to date and researched version of the Cloud setup?
That was awesome. Did both of you have the same path to the media locally? I was not clear on how the media got shared. Was it in the cloud? Local network server shared disk? We do collab here using a mac mini as the DB server and a NAS for shared media. This cloud dealio is innnerestink tho :)
Yeah we have a nas. So media was shared.
Thoroughly enjoyed this video.
thank you! very interesting and entertaining!
I learned a lot. Thanks!
Thanks! That was great to see. It's awesome and great it's also available in the free version. It might be also great for a quick feedback process:Just showing client or collaboration partner how a certain grade would look like and he/she can instantly feedback to you from a remote place or perhaps give it a try himself. Also great for training purposes? You as a teacher can watch what the student is doing and intervene like a "driving instructor". I imagine it can speed up things a lot. Will be nevertheless waiting a bit for a version when it's a little "less beta".
there will be many of updates for this feature....
This is surprisingly helpful. And funny
This was surprisingly hilarious
Lol. You guys are so funny, it was like watching Silicone Valley
Just the fact that we can do this for free is crazy!
Just the fact that I commented that, and then you guys literally say exactly this in the "final thoughts" at the end of the video, is even more crazy!
Just the fact that I only got a notification for this video now even though resolve 18 is 10 months old and I am subscribed, is the craziest.
Thank you, this was funny 😄 is the same way I approach a new tool, but than go to the user manual 🙌
With the free version!!! 🤯
This will be great as a teaching tool for your patreons etc.
you guys are entertaining. You had me laughing as this is actly the way I figure things out. Just go for it. lol
Nicely done, gentlemen 👌😂👍
Hey Casey, I'm seeking a tutorial on how to manage media in general. I have tons of raw video clips, PNGs, sound effects, audio tracks, etc. For each project, I usually place them all in one folder but then I find myself reusing elements in other projects here and there. Once I move all these folders to my backup sever, all my links become a mess. What's the best way to organize digital data in Windows/MAC folders as well as Davinci Resolve?
amazing video! thanks :)
How are you setup? both of you have to have the cloud pod or only one? If there are another editor in other country have to have another cloud pod? gracias!!!
Hey ! How does it handle plugins (FilmConvert, Dehancer, Scatter, etc) or LUTs that are not present on each collaborating machine ?
Any way to preview a grade made by the colorist with those tools if they are not installed in the editor’s Resolve app for example ?
Thanks !
You guys are hilarious. I think the idea is only one editor has read and write access on a timeline in the edit page at a time.
Sam is very funny.... but he is out of focus!!! Great video Casey, well done and thank you!
I'm thinking it's a good thing that only one can edit at any given time - you mess with my edit and there'll be trouble 😂🤣 but feel free to grade it 👍
Great way to demo because that's how most will start!
Thank you for a great video tutorial. Just wondering... I don't need to, nor want collaboration. With that said, what are the advantages, if any, of signing up for the Blackmagic Cloud?
Casey, could you do a tutorial on how to set up file sharing for the cloud? I haven't found a tutorial on that yet.
hahaha this is exactly how it goes down when my friend and i test things
hopefully there's auto-reload when the timeline gets changed
Do you need the Cloud Pod or any subscription to do this across the internet? How's the footage being received on the other end? You all have a NAS?
I recently purchased a Blackmagic speed editor and got a serial key for Davinci Resolve Studio 17, would i be able to get a free upgrade to Davince Resolve Studio 18?
Yup
Lol I love this. Great "crash course" !! I'll give a little grace to BM - it IS technically beta.
What about the network? Is there any tutorial out there showing how to use it on a network? Or should i select cloud when the 2 pc's are on the local network?
Yeah just use it over the cloud. Thats what we do and it works great. You can do a local network thing, but it's a ton of work to set up. Cloud is super easy
@@CaseyFaris Yeah ive just come to realise this lol, tried setting up 2 pc's as me and my brother work on projects together and it's a nightmare. Gonna give cloud a shot! thanks Casey!!
What about plugins? Will all collaborators have access to the plugins that are used in the project, as far as being able to edit parameters, make changes, add plugins, etc? I can't find the answer to this anywhere on the web.
But how can I work on a project locally (because its faster) and then when its time to color it, send a link to someone for them to have the "cloud version" of it? You know what im sayin?
Where does the data get saved to from day to day in the cloud or hard drive from computer
Good tutorial, but one detail is missing: how do you unsubscribe?
When you are dragging media into the cloud, where are you dragging it from? I can't figure out how to get media in there that is usable without the drive being plugged in. Helpppp pleeeeease
DaVinci Resolve 19 Manual, Chapter 9 Cloud Collaboration: pages 316 to 318.
I’ve found the cloud libraries to feel a little sticky, even without using collaboration.
Beta testing together. Awesome.
Yess , thnx
How does it handle media?
I assume it's not uploading and storing the media in the cloud.
Do you each have to have the same media and relinked?
Or does cloud upload proxies?
Recently subbed to the cloud server for better collaboration and workflow but I get the amber "I" icon saying incompatible. It appears my DR version isn't up to par. Even though it is v18, I think it still has to be the latest one to work. I need to upgrade to test that out
This probably sounds foolish , but does both editors need the exact same footage on drives to access everything. ? Or can one have it edit in cloud .. & it will be there for next editor
Literally asked a second time: Casey why don't U answer questions:
Is the CLOUD available to FREE Davinci 18 or just studio 18? next question would this be good for TEACHING some one to edit or is it for 2 experienced editors to work on different fazes of a project like coloring etc? Also can U mix FREE and STUDIO in Cloud Colegration?
do you know how to move a project from the cloud to a local library to work offline then move it back to the cloud and merge it with the original?
Is it uploading/downloading media files to/from the cloud or only xml data?
Is the COLOW avaiable to FREE Davinci 18 or just studio 18? next question would this be good for TEACHING some one to edit or is it for 2 experienced editors to work on different fazes of a project like coloring etc?
Hello, Casey I need help trying to use the cloud collaboration with my brother but each time one of us edits a video the other user tries to refresh’s it but it’s shows “Media Offline” and can’t access it?
Hey, im from Argentina, this feature is not active for my country yet, but i have a question since i recorded a documentary (tons and tons of GB of material). The question is: if my partner has a copy of all the files in his hard disk, can he "link" the media? or is a MUST to have all the files in the cloud? thanks and suscribed!
Thats a great new feature! Does it cost anything extra? For example the use of Blackmagic Cloud?
5 usd per project
@@MoTheFcker per project? dang. thought it was a monthly flat fee :/ Well, at least you don't have to use the DR cloud for that 👍🏼
Cool feature and video. Anyone know if someone has an existing project stored locally - can they make that a cloud project and invite others to collaborate on it? Or does it only work for a new project created in the cloud?
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is the original media also shared & synced automatically?
What I kinda want to know is how you can send an edit to someone for coloring with proxies (like with the Cloud Store storage with proxies auto-generated). Can they grade on the proxies instead of having to download the originals? Would it be hard to grade since they wouldn't be the data-rich files? The grades would probably obviously copy over to the originals when re-linked, but... idk... that's my main question.
What if you save after each edit then the other refreshes. Would they then have control? When it was single user, it would work when you saved. So I wonder if it would work the same way with multi user collab?
you can make this work on a Raspi Pi 4 with elliotmatson githhub project :)
Can you please make an recent update video on it?
are you both connected to the same shared drive?.. is that how the project found the media immediately? great video!!
Yup. Sry forgot to mention that
For Beta, it’s working really well…Not sure an actual workflow would resemble what you guys were trying to do 😂 But I’m like that also, who needs to read up on anything! lol
Though. But do the files we drag to the bin go to the Blackmagic cloud?
i feel funny when U and your friend together talk and make funny 😍😍😍😍😍🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
it will work similar to netwrk colaboration, Looks like niether of them have ever used Colaboration
Collaboration in DR is no longer free? I was following steps in other videos, including this one and these options don't exist, until I go to the website and it says it is an extra monthly fee
is this a feature in the free version to??
Where is the media accessed from?
When they say "a library is $5" does it mean it's a database with unlimited projects? So all I need is one?
Yup, it’s just like a database. So most likely just one unless you want to limit users access or something.
@@CaseyFaris Nice. I'm working with a couple of kids who do the "rough cuts" and sometimes I want to correct it, Add to it - And now I need to upload the project and media to cloud, download it to me, Make the changes, Do some color corrections, upload it again, Then they download it again... You get the point.