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Luri is a Persian dialect. “Luri is descendant of middle Persian Pahlavi. Luri (Northern Luri: لری, Southern Luri: لری) is a Southwestern Iranian language continuum spoken by the Lur people, an Iranian people native to Western Asia. The Luri dialects are descended from Middle Persian and are Central Luri, Bakhtiari,[3][5] and Southern Luri.[3][5] “
I am Bakhtiyari Lur and Kurds are our brothers. We used to be 1 people 1,000 years ago but split into Lurs and Kurds a long time ago. Still retain similar ways of life, warrior culture, language as you can see!
It was the persian shah who Split lur from kurdish people . The shah of persia even tried to make Kurdish people as subgroup of persian Nation . But lur are kurds . Even the Arab Scholars Had written in their books That Lurs are Kurdish people Like Sorani , Bahdini and Kurmanci
من لر بختیاری هستم درخانه وشهرمان همه لری صحبت میکنیم ولی فارسی را زبان اول خودمان میدانیم واجدادمان علاوه بر محفل قرآنی شاهنامه خوانی هفتگی در منازل خود داشتند عشقمان همیشه ایران است قبلاً این را همیشه میگویم ما لرل ایدونیم هیجا سیمون می ایران نیابو ایران دی و.بومونه موقی که تیه لمونه واز کردیم خومونه من ایران دیدیم تیه لمونه بی خه کش سیرمه اینیم
Yes, Persians (modern day Iranians) have done this to assimilate and minimize the Kurds, otherwise 100 years ago no Luri would have lost his original identity as a Kurd.
@@Lesanolghayb دو نکته را فراموش نکن ۱- بحثهای علمی و تاریخی و هویتی منافی ایرانی بودن نیست ۲- اینکه ما فارسی صحبت می کنیم ناشی از تغییراتی هست که ۱۰۰ پیش شروع شد و شاهنامه خوانی هم از همان ۱۵۰ سال پیش با حضور دراویش و مقاله خوانها و خوانین دورکی در دوره قاجار رواج یافت
@@johnnykevin-b6z Not just Lurs and Kurds are similar, but also Persian is the same, these languages are all were only one language before the Arab (Muslim) invasion the homeland. If you try to learn Persian you definitely will figure it out. I am a Kurd and do speak Persian too.
As a Kurdish person from Afrin... I speak Kurmanji... and I can understand Sorani and Luri 100%... I learned Sorani from my six-month stay in Bashure Kurdistan... I learned Luri from Mohsen Lorestani's songs and some other songs hhhhhh
In kurdish "Da" for Mother means "given" actually mother in old kurdish is "mada" or "madayê" it means translatet "who gived me" like the person who gived me life. later it become just "Dê" in some areas they say "dayê" withouth the "Ma" in some arabizated kurdish forms they say ya-dê
Amazing! Enjoyed every moment of this! Everyone did such a great job. What a wonderful way to highlight Bakhtiari and connect. Much love and respect for the Kurds and Lurs!
@@hamidhp1373hp Ignore the 🤡Kurush. He is a Tehrani susul. He is NOT Lur, just Persian born in Tehran. Lurs are Iranic but not Persian and never were. Our capital in Charmahalo Bakhtiyar is called Shahre Kord it means Kurdish city. The culture, language, lifestyle were always different. Whenever I visit Turkey, I am always asked on the streets if I am Kurd (I have green eyes black hair descent features).
@@IranLurwe are same people, call us kurd, lur, mede, zagroasian whatever. But we are really same , language, culture, history, traditions, food so much big connections.
This is amazing to watch there are so many words are like in balochi like sohr,amsaya,nehli,rang,speh,merd,and many more words similar we use in Balochistan ❤
As a Bakhtiari Lur I really loved the video and I was actually waiting for it. I also loved the two Bakhtiari guys especially Ali who was really quick to understand all the words. Thank you guys ❤️✌🏽
Lur are Kurdish people . Persian Shah tried to split Iranic people and make them to persian . It was the Shah of Persia who split Lur from Kurdish identity
Siz farslar niye Kürt düşmanlığı yapıyorsunuz ulan sizi kurtaran Med Kürt imparatorluğu idi ki Pers tarihçi Firdevsi nin şahnamesini oku orada Firdevsi aynen böyle söylüyor biz Persler dili ve kültürü olduğu gibi Med Kürt imparatorluğun dan aldık anladın mı
Great synergy, I loved how each participant would refrain from interrupting the others in spite of his/her own excitement. And Zehra, special thanks to you from a compatriot of yours, all the best guys :)
Thank you so much guys (specially you dear Bahador) for the amazing content. I speak both Bakhtiari Luri and Persian. One of the things I found interesting is that although I was born in Masjed Soleyman, my pronunciations are actually way closer to Koorosh compared to Ali (a fellow Masjed Soleymani). The other thing I wanted to mention is that Ali’s view on the whole transition between different Iranic languages is something I’ve always believed in, maybe it’s a bit more clear for someone who speaks a language not belonging to the extreme ends of the spectrum, but somewhere in the middle. I (in my humble opinion) believe Luri speakers for example, can easily see the high level of similarity between Persian and Sorani Kurdish since their language is close to both, something the speakers of either of the respective languages may have a harder time realizing themselves. One last thing I would like to mention is that we oftentimes forget the existence of different dialects and accents when it comes to Persian, since the language has a widely influential standardized form. But since I was born in the province of Khuzestan, I know many of the words mentioned here also exist in Khuzestani Persian (or are at least known by Khuzestani Persian speakers). Likewise the people of Bushehr, Fars, Hormozgan, Kerman, etc., are also familiar with these words to varying degrees. If we also bring these less thought of dialects and accents into consideration, we can easily spot the smooth transition from one end of the spectrum to the other. The Iranic connection is super strong.
Lur and Bakhtyari, like Sorani, Kalhuri, and Kermanji, constitute the Kurds, and it is a mistake to consider them separately. The Lurs and the Bakhtyaris are the original tribes of the Kurdish nation and are similar to the rest of the Kurds in all respects.
@@bardia1364 You are so stupid, that you speak for us. What is 90-year-old Iran that should be compared with the thousands of years of history of the Kurds and attributed to them? At all, the very same shoe(Kiłaş) of our feet (Kurd shoes) is many times older than the fake history of your fake Iran. fuck the iran
@@KoroushRPhehe really? Hahahaha look dna and history who lurs are :) and look at pahlavi language you will understand what it is and what it was… analyze the 7 great houses of parthians whos state language officially was pahlavi you will understand that lors never existed they were and are just a part of great kurdish tribe GORAN… iranian state is just lying on your identity cause they need you trolls against kurdish history… nobody interests who lors are only iranian state :)
Ignore the 🤡Kurush. He is a Tehrani susul. He is NOT Lur, just Persian born in Tehran. Lurs are Iranic but not Persian and never were. Our capital in Charmahalo Bakhtiyar is called Shahre Kord it means Kurdish city. The culture, language, lifestyle were always different. Whenever I visit Turkey, I am always asked on the streets if I am Kurd (I have green eyes black hair descent features).
In Urdu we also use the word merd (مرد) for husband and male both . 2) we also dargah (درگاہ) 3)We also use the word درخت for tree 4) we also use Dadi for grandmother دادی 5) we also said surkh سورخ for red colour We also said رنگ for colour We also said hamsaya or ہمسایہ for neighbours We use sar سر for head in Urdu Dude many similarities with Urdu
yes, Urdu is the persianised register of Hindustani, which basically mean's it's adapted much vocab from persian. But particularly in mofre formal speech.
@@anonymouslyopinionated656 lol 😂😁😁😁 urdu word originate from the Turkish word Ordo which mean army ) in Urdu we said lashkari zuban means mixture of different languages like Persian has huge influence I think 50 urdu is made of Persian and even urdu language, Arabic and Turkish even some word of Uzbek script is different from Hindi language . Secondly Hindi language influence by Urdu language not Urdu influence by Hindi both languages script is completely different. In old or ancient India or Indian speak Sanskrit which even now at that widely speaking in India in political leaders speak Sanskrit their hindu religious figures or monks speak Sanskrit and in school or educational institution they Sanskrit is mandatory which you called Hindi/ Sanskrit and Sanskrit is influenced by URDU language after Muslims dynasty Muslims dynasty comes .
@@yareman5596 Ordo means camp, as in camping, encampment, and not army. It is intruduced to urdu from persian, as all other words with arabic or turkish origini. Ordo is mongolian origin.. Rekhta is the origin of Urdu and that means mixed, Lashkari zaban means the language of the army.
@@kefkahkefkah sorry 😁😂😂😂 Ordo use for army or camps Urdu word originate from the Turkish word and ancient name of urdu was rekhta which is also a Persian by Ustad Ibrahim zouq was popular identity of that who alot on this The ریختہ has a big history but you no knowledge obviously this is my national our primary education start in so we study from the start . But there is no connection between khadi or bethi boli 😂😁😁. Lashkari or لشکری is urdu or Persian common use in ancient time for qabilas or groups that why urdu called as lashkari because urdu language made up of Lashkar of language means made of different languages like Arabic and Persian and Uzbek and Turkish.
@@yareman5596 I speak both urdu and farsi, i have lived over ten years in karachi lyhari, so i do indeed have knowledge. The turkish words in Urdu is minimal, all uzbeks and turks used persian to communicate in Historic India, and like all arabic words in urdu the turkish words have entered through farsi. Ordo the word is the oriigin for the english word Horde, and its mongolian in origin.
لری بختیاری زبان اولیه ما ایرانیان در زمان هخامنشیان بود و هنوز در مرکز و بویژه در غرب و جنوب غربی ایران با لهجه های مختلف رواج دارد. بسیار به فارسی پهلوی و اوستایی نزدیک است.
@@Par100milyon دلیلی برای گفته هایتان وجود ندارد، اینها رواج تبلیغات هویت سازی هست. تمام زبانهای موجود در ایران کلماتی نزدیک به زبانهای قدیمی ایران دارند
Could you do similarity between Burmese and Chinese, because they are from the same language family which means their related, but I haven’t heard enough of the similarities between them, so I want to find out more! Good video as always.❤😊
I’m cantonese and I have many Burmese friends😂 and I’ve also noticed some similarities I thought it was just a coincidence though. I would love to see a future video dedicated to this comment.
Lori understands South Kurdish, they can talk to each other,Some historians such as Sharaf Khan of Badlisi, Ibn Hawqal and many other Arab historians consider Lore to be Kurdish, but some do not But there is very strong evidence that he is a Kurd
What a rich, colorful and powerful language we Kurds have, let's not lose its, because that language is the black box of the arian language and culture.
As a Kurdish speaker I see how similarities depend not on the dialects but rather on random geographical sub-dialects instead, which is something really interesting I recently found out. Like you can find several words for something in in Luri or Kurmanji that sometimes are the same more related to each other's than their own classified languages/dialects
Can I just say that all these words also exist in Persian? Just pronunciation is different and they are less common. For example we have a cave in Firoozkooh names eskaft salman .
As someone who studied both languages and their dialects kalhori is more like Southern Luri (Boyer Ahmadi, mamsani....) than the other dialects of luri
@@SheroalKurdi96not true I’m kurd I treat my luri ppl as my blood brothers,we all iranic but no same tribe , love lur , Lak , soran goran kurmanj Persian tajik , mazindarani talysh
Interesting! Thank you and Greetings from a Swede 🇸🇪 who do not speak your language at all (except from some Words, like besteni, Ganmashami, and azizm (sorry for the wrong spelling) 😀
Yes it is true the Bahdini dialect is similar to Luri , in pronouncing many words , Ru in Kurmangi is Ri in Luri and Bahdini . Many words are like that , Luri and Bahdini use i instead of u
@@Techtalk2030 You can not be bakhtiari or Luri , you are a Persian. You were most of the time under Kurdish rules , from the empire of Meds , to the Sasanide ,to the Buweyhids ,to the kurdish Zend empire by Karim Khan Zend And even the Sawafids were Kurds , the imperialist made the lie of Persia and Persian Empire, and some idiots believes that nonsense. For one simple reason that these poeple who invented this lie and you believed it Has a great hate against the Kurds , since the time of Kurdish Sultan Saladin ( Salahuddin Al-Ayubi ) how through out the Crusaders from Jerusalem
In Pashto language also “mera” means husband but the “r” sound is different. Also, “sur” means red, “shin” green and “speen” means white in Pashto. And in my Farsi dialect of Afghanistan, “ru” means face.
That Kurdish from Iraqi Kurdistan autonomous region, he speaks six different local and international languages but doesn’t know Arabic language while Kurdistan autonomous region is a part of Iraq. It’s back to the Kurdish revolution against Iraqi government in 1991 then the international community demarcated a red line between the Kurdistan Region and Iraq following the Iraqi government defeat and withdrawal from the region. So the Kurdish language had become the merely official state language of the region, and the region completely de-Arabized after approximately 70 years of conflict between Kurdish rebels and Iraqi government.
@@muhammadmamkaksherwany5333he de-arabization was a good thing. We the kurdish people don't want to learn arabic so we don't end of discussion. We also hate iraq and everyone who wants to keep that abomination of a state together. It is our right to not want to co-exist with arabs
Sorani is essentially Southern Kurmanji with Southern Kurdish (Gurani, Fayli, Kalhor) influence. Many words retained in Kurmanji are more closer to their origin than say in Sorani, and this also goes the same for Sorani having some words closer to its origin. Can you elaborate on your point with an example?
Lurs are Bakhtiari, Mamasani and Koh Giluyehis. Qashqais are Turkish leaders of Lorestan. They are arguable. There’s no Lors in Iraq. They are Kurds of Fayli tribe, they are mislabeled as Lors.
That was great. Good similarities between accents. I sow the Farsi and dary and achmi, they hardly understand achmi while they saying the achmi is the origin of Farsi
@@KoroushRPthey are not unintelligent Kurds do understand each other if Kurdistan was not divided in between 4 countries they bond will be stronger to understand even I can hear and understand what they all say even though I don’t speak one of the two other dialects actually it’s called dialect continuum to the same language Kurdish I think Persians also have this with other Persian speaking people
@@teknul89 Ignore the 🤡Kurush. He is a Tehrani susul. Lurs are Iranic but not Persian and never were. Our capital in Charmahalo Bakhtiyar is called Shahre Kord it means Kurdish city. The culture, language, lifestyle were always different. He is a NON-Lur troll most likely Arab.
Ethnicity and nation does not completely depend on having common language (I know in many cases language matters), but it depends on having common history, culture, geography and common political decision and destiny. Indian people speak more than 10 languages inside India, but they all belong to the Hindi nation. Jews speak many many different languages, but they see themselves one and all of them identify themselves as a part of so called Jewish nation. Same thing for Persians (Most of the Persians speak Dari Farsi language, but there are more than three more distinct languages in Pars province in Iran spoken by Persians (Bandari language, Larestani/Achomi language..)etc. Same goes for Kurds, even though Luri language is linguistically distinct from Kurdish language (despite of having many things in common and similarities), both speakers of Kurdish and Luri share common origin, common history, common geography (both are the people of Zagros), same culture... I am myself a Kurd from the Kurdistan region and the city of Sulaymaniyah, my grandmother was a Lur. We are completely the same people.
@@KoroushRPtroll persian 😢 you really think we believe you? 😂😂😂 Kurds speak Kurdish and Luri (some identify Goran dialect of a Kurdish as another Kurdish language). But even persians themselves speak different languages such as Dari (Farsi), Bandari, achomi…etc .. linguistically they are three distinct languages
@@Kurdo_Barznji_Slemani luri is a Persian dialect and language and descendant of middle Persian, kurds themselves speak languages not even of the same origin, while luri has Persian origin. furthermore dari and farsi and bandari arent different languages, theyre mutually intelligible and all new Persian, luri, gilak, tat, mazandarani, bakhtiari and feyli are middle Persian Pahlavi Parsig. while kurmanji, sorani, gorani, zazza, kermenshahi pahlavi and feyli are not mitually intelligible. You can search it up if you dont belive me, but you most likely know this already and are just in denial, sad, lol
Zor kêf xweş bûm ji bû vê vîdyoyê dest xweş Kurdino(Kurmanc,Soran,Lor,Lak, Zaza,Hewrman,Kelhûr) زۆر خوشحالبوم بو ئەم ڤیدیۆیە دەست خوش کوردنشینەکان (کورمانج،سوران،لور،لک،زاز،هەورمانی،کەلهوری) یەک زەمین یەک نیشتمان یەک وڵات یەک زمان بژی کورد و کوردستان💚☀️❤️☝🏻🫂
It proves that we all have same root , and same language just basically with different pronunciation and the place of the words in the sentences,, we all 1 kurd lur Persian mazindarani tajik ,,
My father speaks southern lori from the Mamasani / Boyer ahmad regions of Iran. We are originally from the city of Kazerun, just west of Shiraz. There are similarities between all iranian languages. But Lori is overall different from Kurdish. Southern Iranians usually understand Lori better than Northern or Tehrani Iranians
The Bakhtiyari Luri dialect is heavily Persianized. That is why it is so close to Modern Persian. Also Middle Persian did not descend from Old Persian that is boiler plate information fed from Wikipedia without any actual research. Middle Persian actually descends from a dialect of Parthian and was called Persian by the Sassanids once they established the empire after the Parthians. Both Middle Persian and Parthian were called Pahlavi for a reason! And old Persian is much more similar to Sanskrit than anything.
For all who said lurs are not KURDS! Are the Loris Kurds? In a natural environment, free from external influences, people decide their own identity and no one has the right to impose their identity on others. In the Kurdistan environment, people's rights and historical facts have been mixed and the facts have been distorted. Historically and culturally, the Loris have been considered Kurds throughout history and have considered themselves Kurds. However, in the 20th century, under the influence of European scholars, pan-Iranian ideology, Persian and Iranian nationalism, there has been a change in the views of some Loris. The name of the Loris appears to be composed of the words “Lo Huri” (1) which means “Huri youth, sun-worshipping youth” in Kurdish and “Lo Khurvi” which means “Huri youth” in Huri. The name also appears among the Kalhurs, who are neighbors of the Loris. The name of the Kalhurs consists of (Kal+Hur) which means (brave/excellent/great+Hur) meaning (excellent Hurrians, excellent sun worshippers). The Kurdish word 'hur' has had a close meaning in the Huri language. The Huri people say 'khuri' in the morning, which means close to the Kurdish sun. There is. Sharaf Khan of Badlisi, who wrote the history of the Kurdish nation, considered the Loris as part of the four groups of the Kurdish nation. Until the 20th century, when asked where the Loris came from, they told the story of Sulaymaniyah. Furthermore, if we pay attention to some phenomena and aspects of Lorestan culture, the historical fact becomes clear. For example, if you look at the Lorestan region today, you will see that one of the most important areas of Lorestan settlement is Shahr Kurd, which means Kurdish city. Throughout history, the area has been inhabited by Loris. Is it possible for the Lore city to be named after Kurds and not be Kurds themselves? Who are the Kurds after whom the city is named? It is also seen that the Loris dance like all Kurds and the drum and the zurna, which are instruments specific to Kurdish dance, are among the Loris and have their own characteristics like all other parts of Kurdistan, but are completely different from Persian. In the Yarsani religion, whose founders and followers were among the Goran, Lore and sometimes Soran. In the book Sarnjam Yarsankan, Lori and Goran poetry are mixed in such a way that they cannot be separated from each other. Figures such as Shakhoshin, Baba Tayer Hamadani and many others who are considered important figures of the religion are all Lorestan, while the majority of the followers of the religion are Goran. The transfer of religious views and cultural perspectives between the Lorestan and Goran clearly shows the historical commonality that has existed between different parts of Kurdistan throughout history. One of the characteristics that has emerged among the Kurds has been the phenomenon of women's power. The emergence of women in power has always been part of Kurdish culture and history. Unlike many of its neighboring nations, Kurds have hundreds of famous women. One of the most famous Lore women who strongly opposed Reza Shah was Qadam Khair. Qadem Khair has been like all Kurdish women in culture and behavior. Throughout history, they have played all the social and political roles of men. Unfortunately, the political side has taken wing over the placement of the Loris in the outer cell of the Kurds. The Lori dialect is the same dialect spoken by the Failis in southern Kurdistan in the areas near Baghdad. The Failis consider themselves Kurds because they are not influenced by Persian nationalism and pan-Iranianism. If the Loris are brought closer to the Persians on the basis of language, this view is wrong. Because based on hundreds of historical and linguistic evidence, it appears that Persian is closer to Kurdish than Kurdish to Persian. There is no doubt that the Loris have identified themselves as Kurds throughout history. Only in the 20th century, under the influence of Persian nationalism and pan-Iranianism, and European academic research, did they doubt their Kurdishness. Otherwise, according to historical documents, similarities in music and dance, language, religion, social relationships, etc. They are like every other Kurd. Source: Who is the Kurd (Soran Hama Rash)
F*u*k yourself and your fake historical evidence, we lurs as thousands light years not considering ourselves to be n*asty kurd, go make a fake nation with another people idi**t.
I am from balagriveh lorestan ur dilect is between kordi and bkhtiari but we are closer to bakhtiari than the rest. Of course we are in eastern part of minor lorestan and our trib is PAPi
Nice video! I like how Ali described it as transitional languages or dialects. When he spoke it sounded very Sorani or Fayli to me in terms of accent, however the words are spelt differently. Eg Zuzu v Zizi, Korom v Kuram. Similar differences between Kurdish and Persian to, Xanu v Xune, however as a Kurdish speaker I feel like Luri when spoken is closer to Kurdi than Farsi is to Kurdish. The most transitional dialect between Kurdi and Luri is probably Lakki, Lakki is Kurdish NW iranic but has much Luri influence. Laki also strangely features many similarities with Kurmanji and Zaza-Hawrami.
@@aimanaramaliali9692 maby it comes from Muslem thing and also "brotherhood" in Christianity use the same concept for friendship. not just religious It's international
Just a note, for the word "cave" in the Sorani-Hawleri (Erbil) dialect we say "aşkaft" rather than "aşka-wt". Usually Slulaymaniyah reagion dialect use "w" in place "f". For example the number 7 in the Suli dialect is "ĥawt" and in the Hawler reagion it's pronounced "ĥaft".
@@GaziYALINKILIC-uo2qr very cool!!! since i have never heard of this dialect im assuming it's spoken either in kermanshah or around the border of ilam and iraq. can you give me more information about the dialect you speak?
In fact, all Indo-European languages have the letters mtr for the word mother. but the interesting thing is that it means "to give" in Kurdish. i read somewhere. In ancient beliefs, the great gods have always been women. and the "da" meaning to give here comes from the woman's analogy to the earth. The soil provides us with food. we sow we reap. for giving birth to a woman. considered as sacred as the earth. daye-given "daye"- is the mother. this means. I'm Kurdish. I know the kurdish dialect. There are more words for the word mother. da,daye,yade,ci,mak
@@sivagurunathan3825 Brahmins never did that. The invaders from turkey and Afghan did. The library of Nalanda had so many books that it kept burning for 3 months
Kurda Baradaranemunan! Love Kurdish people. The music, food, dancing, nomadic lifestyle and warrior horsemen culture. Kurds always will be Lur brothers!
Sur=Surati=red/pink/ Suri is the name Tom Cruise's daughter. Yes, he used a an Iranian word. Shaow = Shab in Persian. A lot of words used here are the same in Persian with little change. I only know Persian even though my ancestor from father side is Bakhtiyari and my is from Kurdestan.
@@omid706 I didn't say all. Of course, if you pay attention to the root of a word, you might be able to guess. "eskkaft" maybe is related to "kashf. eshtekaf" in Persian. I am only guessing, since I have lived in the US since 1974 and I am not very good in Persian.
@@jonam7589 sure but at first or if I'd heard the words in a sentence I would not get it. They've varied to an extent that makes them different despite sharing the same root
@@omid706 That's very true. When I visited Kurdestan, I had no idea what my elative would say. As I learned a few key words and started paying more attention, little by little I started to understand more. Like "z" changes to "zh" Zan becomes Zhen. "choni" "chetori"; I think if I learn 300 words and stay there for 6 months, I should understand what they say. Languages evolve. They have much less arabic that Persian today.
@@servantofsusa7838 - LMAO Middle Persian (Pahlavi/Fayli) (Parth empire) is routed in the Median empire. Which is originally Kurdish. Cyrus the great Grandfather was Cyxares which was the Kurdish Median king. This makes the Achaemenid lineage also Kurdish.
@@hamaguitar dream on you can just search it up it will tell you it's a different language also luri is a southwestern iranic languages just like Persian Kirds speak kirdish which is a northwestern iranic language
Feyli and Laki actually very well in a group with the Kahlori. And this group is labeled as South Kurdish. Actually in Iraqi Kurdistan Feyli is often also used to describe Kalhori speakers. Bakhtiari and South Lori are in fact closer to Kalhori, Feyli, Laki(South Kurdish) and one could argue even Sorani (Central) than they are to Persian or Kurmanji. That is my experience. Lori is equally distant to Kurmanji and Persian but closer to Persian than Hawrami-Zaza. One statement of Ali put it well in perspective. It is more like a transition. There is no clear cut divide from Kurdish to Persian. Such a divide exists no where in this world with two related languages. "Korom mar to baqe awi ke zi zi heeri mene aw mela ikeni" in Kurmanji the sentence would be like this. "Kurem ma tu baqî ku zu zu diheri avê mela dike"
If ali would say what you wrote in kurmanji in bakhtiari it would be. ”Korom mar to baqi ke zizi eri aw mela ikeni” the ”baqe awi” means ”water frog” but in ur kurmanji sentence you only wrote frog and not water frog there fore k changed it so you get a betrer understaning for how it would be in bakhtiari. Also in his sentence he said ”eri mene aw” wich means ”go in the water” you obly wrote ” go to the water” and in bakthari that becomes ”eri aw” and not ”eri mene aw” so the sentence becomes more alike in bakhtiari and kurmanji now In farsi it would be ”Pesaram magar to gorbagei ke zodzod miri ab shena mikoni”
One could almost argue that farsi, lori and kurdish is dialects of the same language that we call XZY. And the north-western dialect of XZY is called kurdish, The central-western dialect of XZY is called luri and the southern dialect of XZY is called farsi.
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really was a great session
Loved this a lot ❤
You should do a video with different Persian dialects of southern and western Iran.
Luri is a Persian dialect.
“Luri is descendant of middle Persian Pahlavi. Luri (Northern Luri: لری, Southern Luri: لری) is a Southwestern Iranian language continuum spoken by the Lur people, an Iranian people native to Western Asia. The Luri dialects are descended from Middle Persian and are Central Luri, Bakhtiari,[3][5] and Southern Luri.[3][5] “
@@tannazmehrdadi8774luri is a Persian dialect not kurdish
Can you do new Persian and Luri comparison? It be interesting since both are descendant of middle Persian Pahlavi.
I am Bakhtiyari Lur and Kurds are our brothers. We used to be 1 people 1,000 years ago but split into Lurs and Kurds a long time ago. Still retain similar ways of life, warrior culture, language as you can see!
All right
Ez ji Sûriyê, ji bajarê Efrînê me, kurd im, haitî me, min hemû gotinên wî fêm kir, ferqa di navbera zaravayan de hindik e, spas xwişk û birayên min.
Yes 😍🦁🦅
Goh nagou madar jendeh, us lurs are descendant of Persians not kirds and kirds cant understand us. Kirds dont even have one language but 8.
Us lurs speak a middle Persian dialect not kirdish nor re we the same people.
Realy great job Bahador, it was a pleasure to be part of the video
I am Baloch from Pakistan. Lor is Kurd. Kurdish Baloch talysh manzandrani gilaki is one Nation alhamdulillah ❤
Yes and that nation is called Iran.
Please stop this stupid stuff we baloch are baloch not anything else.
Say b*ullsh*it about yours, don't talk about us, we lurs are independent ethnic
@@K55365 we lurs are proudly Iranian
@@mirnowruz midunam azizam
Kurds and lurs is same, I dont know why they split in two, I think it is because of other groups dont want kurds be together
It was the persian shah who Split lur from kurdish people . The shah of persia even tried to make Kurdish people as subgroup of persian Nation .
But lur are kurds . Even the Arab Scholars Had written in their books That Lurs are Kurdish people Like Sorani , Bahdini and Kurmanci
من لر بختیاری هستم درخانه وشهرمان همه لری صحبت میکنیم ولی فارسی را زبان اول خودمان میدانیم واجدادمان علاوه بر محفل قرآنی شاهنامه خوانی هفتگی در منازل خود داشتند عشقمان همیشه ایران است قبلاً این را همیشه میگویم ما لرل ایدونیم هیجا سیمون می ایران نیابو ایران دی و.بومونه موقی که تیه لمونه واز کردیم خومونه من ایران دیدیم تیه لمونه بی خه کش سیرمه اینیم
Yes, Persians (modern day Iranians) have done this to assimilate and minimize the Kurds, otherwise 100 years ago no Luri would have lost his original identity as a Kurd.
@@Lesanolghayb
دو نکته را فراموش نکن
۱- بحثهای علمی و تاریخی و هویتی منافی ایرانی بودن نیست
۲- اینکه ما فارسی صحبت می کنیم ناشی از تغییراتی هست که ۱۰۰ پیش شروع شد و شاهنامه خوانی هم از همان ۱۵۰ سال پیش با حضور دراویش و مقاله خوانها و خوانین دورکی در دوره قاجار رواج یافت
@@johnnykevin-b6z Not just Lurs and Kurds are similar, but also Persian is the same, these languages are all were only one language before the Arab (Muslim) invasion the homeland. If you try to learn Persian you definitely will figure it out. I am a Kurd and do speak Persian too.
As a Kurdish person from Afrin... I speak Kurmanji... and I can understand Sorani and Luri 100%... I learned Sorani from my six-month stay in Bashure Kurdistan... I learned Luri from Mohsen Lorestani's songs and some other songs hhhhhh
In kurdish "Da" for Mother means "given" actually mother in old kurdish is "mada" or "madayê" it means translatet "who gived me" like the person who gived me life. later it become just "Dê" in some areas they say "dayê" withouth the "Ma" in some arabizated kurdish forms they say ya-dê
در زبان لری کهکیکویه وشمال فارس و شمال بوشهر وشمال وجنوب خوزستان به مادر دی.day دا da دایه daye می گویند
Xwe- da ...xwe (self)
Interesting anecdote.
Wow! There's always something new. Very educational. Thanks everyone.
Thank you for this video Bahador. I have been waiting for a Bakhtiari video!
Amazing! Enjoyed every moment of this! Everyone did such a great job. What a wonderful way to highlight Bakhtiari and connect. Much love and respect for the Kurds and Lurs!
Lurs are Persians and our language descendant of middle Persian Pahlavi
@@KoroushRPso what are trying to say or tell us ??? Please explain more
@@KoroushRP we are Lurs and our language is Luri
@@hamidhp1373hp Ignore the 🤡Kurush. He is a Tehrani susul. He is NOT Lur, just Persian born in Tehran. Lurs are Iranic but not Persian and never were. Our capital in Charmahalo Bakhtiyar is called Shahre Kord it means Kurdish city. The culture, language, lifestyle were always different. Whenever I visit Turkey, I am always asked on the streets if I am Kurd (I have green eyes black hair descent features).
@@IranLurwe are same people, call us kurd, lur, mede, zagroasian whatever. But we are really same , language, culture, history, traditions, food so much big connections.
This is amazing to watch there are so many words are like in balochi like sohr,amsaya,nehli,rang,speh,merd,and many more words similar we use in Balochistan ❤
@@Nizamuddin-vi7ip us lurs speak middle Persian dialect yes
As a Bakhtiari Lur I really loved the video and I was actually waiting for it. I also loved the two Bakhtiari guys especially Ali who was really quick to understand all the words. Thank you guys ❤️✌🏽
Luri is a Persian dialect. Luri is descendant of middle Persian Pahlavi.
کورو ته چی گی سی خوت
@@KoroushRPفارسی پهلوی در اصل کردی اورامی هست تحقیق کن
@@Shahpoorsasani6798 خفه شو گی مفت نخه لیوه پنگه ای
@@KoroushRP😂😂
Lur are Kurdish people . Persian Shah tried to split Iranic people and make them to persian .
It was the Shah of Persia who split Lur from Kurdish identity
😂 100% nonsense, Pahlavi wasn't even Persian, he was Mazandarani and Azeri.
True
Siz farslar niye Kürt düşmanlığı yapıyorsunuz ulan sizi kurtaran Med Kürt imparatorluğu idi ki Pers tarihçi Firdevsi nin şahnamesini oku orada Firdevsi aynen böyle söylüyor biz Persler dili ve kültürü olduğu gibi Med Kürt imparatorluğun dan aldık anladın mı
Nonsense idi*ot, we were never kurd as much as hilarious this bullsh*it is for us
Lurs are Persian who literally speak a middle Persian dialect. Kird joukis cant even understand us
Great synergy, I loved how each participant would refrain from interrupting the others in spite of his/her own excitement. And Zehra, special thanks to you from a compatriot of yours, all the best guys :)
Thank you so much guys (specially you dear Bahador) for the amazing content.
I speak both Bakhtiari Luri and Persian. One of the things I found interesting is that although I was born in Masjed Soleyman, my pronunciations are actually way closer to Koorosh compared to Ali (a fellow Masjed Soleymani). The other thing I wanted to mention is that Ali’s view on the whole transition between different Iranic languages is something I’ve always believed in, maybe it’s a bit more clear for someone who speaks a language not belonging to the extreme ends of the spectrum, but somewhere in the middle. I (in my humble opinion) believe Luri speakers for example, can easily see the high level of similarity between Persian and Sorani Kurdish since their language is close to both, something the speakers of either of the respective languages may have a harder time realizing themselves.
One last thing I would like to mention is that we oftentimes forget the existence of different dialects and accents when it comes to Persian, since the language has a widely influential standardized form. But since I was born in the province of Khuzestan, I know many of the words mentioned here also exist in Khuzestani Persian (or are at least known by Khuzestani Persian speakers). Likewise the people of Bushehr, Fars, Hormozgan, Kerman, etc., are also familiar with these words to varying degrees. If we also bring these less thought of dialects and accents into consideration, we can easily spot the smooth transition from one end of the spectrum to the other. The Iranic connection is super strong.
@hosseinshahni For me, as a native Slovak speakor, can you afford to me tips to learn Persian language?
Because lurs dialects are not dependent on what city they are from it is dependent on what, tribe and clan they belong to.
Luri is a Persian dialect is why. Luri is descendant of middle Persian Pahlavi.
@@KoroushRPstop trying to persianize everyting
@@samb1027 says the kird lol. None wants to be a kird.
Id like to see more videos about comparisons within iranian group of languages.
It was so beautiful to be part of this video. Thank you Bahador.
You have done a superb job Zehra 👏🏻👏🏻
Dest û Dengê te xweş Xwşkê Zehra Bijî Kurd û Kurdistan
💚☀️❤️☝🏻
Her bijî xwuska delal!
👏🏼👏🏼
Great job Zehra jan 🤗🤗❤
Lur and Bakhtyari, like Sorani, Kalhuri, and Kermanji, constitute the Kurds, and it is a mistake to consider them separately.
The Lurs and the Bakhtyaris are the original tribes of the Kurdish nation and are similar to the rest of the Kurds in all respects.
We are extremely Iranian
@@bardia1364 You are so stupid, that you speak for us.
What is 90-year-old Iran that should be compared with the thousands of years of history of the Kurds and attributed to them?
At all, the very same shoe(Kiłaş) of our feet (Kurd shoes) is many times older than the fake history of your fake Iran.
fuck the iran
Come Iran and see😂, it's a mother fu**king joke for us to be kurd, we are lur an independent ethnic from you idio*t
Lurs and bakhtiaris are Persians and we speak middle Persian dialect not kirds
This is so cool! as a Bakhtiari I loved this a lot! If you were looking for a Khuzestani volunteer I'll be definitely there!
Luri is descendant of Persian Pahlavi.
@@KoroushRPhehe really? Hahahaha look dna and history who lurs are :) and look at pahlavi language you will understand what it is and what it was… analyze the 7 great houses of parthians whos state language officially was pahlavi you will understand that lors never existed they were and are just a part of great kurdish tribe GORAN… iranian state is just lying on your identity cause they need you trolls against kurdish history… nobody interests who lors are only iranian state :)
Ignore the 🤡Kurush. He is a Tehrani susul. He is NOT Lur, just Persian born in Tehran. Lurs are Iranic but not Persian and never were. Our capital in Charmahalo Bakhtiyar is called Shahre Kord it means Kurdish city. The culture, language, lifestyle were always different. Whenever I visit Turkey, I am always asked on the streets if I am Kurd (I have green eyes black hair descent features).
@@KoroushRPluri is a changed language influenced by Persian in the region khuzi language was once talked
@@IranLur
So are lurs Kurds or no they're not?
Thank you for the show brother❤❤❤❤
In Urdu we also use the word merd (مرد) for husband and male both .
2) we also dargah (درگاہ)
3)We also use the word درخت for tree
4) we also use Dadi for grandmother دادی
5) we also said surkh سورخ for red colour
We also said رنگ for colour
We also said hamsaya or ہمسایہ for neighbours
We use sar سر for head in Urdu
Dude many similarities with Urdu
yes, Urdu is the persianised register of Hindustani, which basically mean's it's adapted much vocab from persian. But particularly in mofre formal speech.
@@anonymouslyopinionated656 lol 😂😁😁😁 urdu word originate from the Turkish word Ordo which mean army ) in Urdu we said lashkari zuban means mixture of different languages like Persian has huge influence I think 50 urdu is made of Persian and even urdu language, Arabic and Turkish even some word of Uzbek script is different from Hindi language . Secondly Hindi language influence by Urdu language not Urdu influence by Hindi both languages script is completely different. In old or ancient India or Indian speak Sanskrit which even now at that widely speaking in India in political leaders speak Sanskrit their hindu religious figures or monks speak Sanskrit and in school or educational institution they Sanskrit is mandatory which you called Hindi/ Sanskrit and Sanskrit is influenced by URDU language after Muslims dynasty Muslims dynasty comes .
@@yareman5596 Ordo means camp, as in camping, encampment, and not army. It is intruduced to urdu from persian, as all other words with arabic or turkish origini. Ordo is mongolian origin.. Rekhta is the origin of Urdu and that means mixed, Lashkari zaban means the language of the army.
@@kefkahkefkah sorry 😁😂😂😂 Ordo use for army or camps Urdu word originate from the Turkish word and ancient name of urdu was rekhta which is also a Persian by Ustad Ibrahim zouq was popular identity of that who alot on this
The ریختہ has a big history but you no knowledge obviously this is my national our primary education start in so we study from the start . But there is no connection between khadi or bethi boli 😂😁😁.
Lashkari or لشکری is urdu or Persian common use in ancient time for qabilas or groups that why urdu called as lashkari because urdu language made up of Lashkar of language means made of different languages like Arabic and Persian and Uzbek and Turkish.
@@yareman5596 I speak both urdu and farsi, i have lived over ten years in karachi lyhari, so i do indeed have knowledge. The turkish words in Urdu is minimal, all uzbeks and turks used persian to communicate in Historic India, and like all arabic words in urdu the turkish words have entered through farsi. Ordo the word is the oriigin for the english word Horde, and its mongolian in origin.
As an Afghan I understand everything
You understand Farsi not Kurdish
لری بختیاری زبان اولیه ما ایرانیان در زمان هخامنشیان بود و هنوز در مرکز و بویژه در غرب و جنوب غربی ایران با لهجه های مختلف رواج دارد. بسیار به فارسی پهلوی و اوستایی نزدیک است.
@@Par100milyon
دلیلی برای گفته هایتان وجود ندارد، اینها رواج تبلیغات هویت سازی هست. تمام زبانهای موجود در ایران کلماتی نزدیک به زبانهای قدیمی ایران دارند
Of course cause afghans speak Farsi and us Lurs speak a Persian dialect stemming from Pahlavi Parsig
@@Techtalk2030firstly go clean your farsi from Arabic and French words 😂😂😂then lecture on pure Aryan languages
5 intellectual people in one video. It was amazing! Thank you again for your excellent contents Bahador!
Dank u wel
Zor Spas
Thank you ❤❤
Kudos to all of you! Bahador thank you for creating this lovely content.😍🥇👑❤️
Impressive how Baha speaks 6 languages pretty effortlessly!!! Good job everyone!
Could you do similarity between Burmese and Chinese, because they are from the same language family which means their related, but I haven’t heard enough of the similarities between them, so I want to find out more! Good video as always.❤😊
I’m cantonese and I have many Burmese friends😂 and I’ve also noticed some similarities I thought it was just a coincidence though. I would love to see a future video dedicated to this comment.
@@hlawnimawi8205yeah I hope the creator sees this I really wanna see a video like that, lots of love to my Chinese people❤️🇨🇳
We are family separated by borders and politics🇲🇲🇨🇳
@@jonahkio3859 so true 💯
Thank you so much, wonderful conversation.
My mother language is Kelhuri Kurdish. I am Sorani Kurdish Teacher. I also know Farsi, English, Arabic and German. I understand Badini Kurmanji
Lori understands South Kurdish, they can talk to each other,Some historians such as Sharaf Khan of Badlisi, Ibn Hawqal and many other Arab historians consider Lore to be Kurdish, but some do not
But there is very strong evidence that he is a Kurd
No, they can't
They're Shi'a
@@muzaffarhaider5764 OK, so what? Still kurds, not Iranians
@@MindSeeker2341actually its true. Lurs understand south kurdish extremly easily
@@MindSeeker2341 I didn't say Irani. I said Shi'a. I'm not Irani but I'm proud Shi'a.
In farsi also say: Dar o derakht (tree) and Ru be ru (face to face)
Astounding and unbelievable notification to receive. 👏🏻👌👌
I was waiting to see a video about Luri language in this channel
Luca is known as iranian Arabic. sometimes known as Turkish
Good to know about similarities between Kurdish and Luri
Luri is a Persian dialect, it has bery little in common with kurdish, which itself is made up of 8 languages.
Lur is one of Kurdish dialect and has nothing with Persian so stop lying to yourself
She is very smart even krmanj is far from bakhtyari region she open all codes sorani like a bridge between krmanji and luri
What a rich, colorful and powerful language we Kurds have, let's not lose its, because that language is the black box of the arian language and culture.
😂😂😂
Us lurs are Persian
@@Techtalk2030assimilated as hell they keep you like a dog
As a Kurdish speaker I see how similarities depend not on the dialects but rather on random geographical sub-dialects instead, which is something really interesting I recently found out. Like you can find several words for something in in Luri or Kurmanji that sometimes are the same more related to each other's than their own classified languages/dialects
This was nice to see 🙂
Can I just say that all these words also exist in Persian? Just pronunciation is different and they are less common. For example we have a cave in Firoozkooh names eskaft salman .
As someone who studied both languages and their dialects kalhori is more like
Southern Luri (Boyer Ahmadi, mamsani....) than the other dialects of luri
keep dreaming
Lor and Lak and Bextiyare and Kurmanc and Soran and Zaza and Kelhûr are all Kurds❤
@@SheroalKurdi96 Shut up.
@@SheroalKurdi96not true I’m kurd I treat my luri ppl as my blood brothers,we all iranic but no same tribe , love lur , Lak , soran goran kurmanj Persian tajik , mazindarani talysh
@@Sanandaj196 no such thing as "iranic"
Bahador are you able to find someone to do the Herati Persian dialect from Afghanistan?
Interesting! Thank you and Greetings from a Swede 🇸🇪 who do not speak your language at all (except from some Words, like besteni, Ganmashami, and azizm (sorry for the wrong spelling) 😀
Those are not Swedish words either. Are you a Lur?
Ali seems to keep all the words in a very ancient style in both concept and pronunciation! I liked it:)
Badini kurdish and baxtiari is kinda similar you should do a comparison video❤️
Yes it is true the Bahdini dialect is similar to Luri , in pronouncing many words , Ru in Kurmangi is Ri in Luri and Bahdini .
Many words are like that , Luri and Bahdini use i instead of u
Bakhtiari and luri are descendant of middle Persian Parsig. We speak the purest form of Persian along with basseris
@@Techtalk2030 You can not be bakhtiari or Luri , you are a Persian.
You were most of the time under Kurdish rules , from the empire of Meds , to the Sasanide ,to the Buweyhids ,to the kurdish Zend empire by Karim Khan Zend
And even the Sawafids were Kurds , the imperialist made the lie of Persia and Persian Empire, and some idiots believes that nonsense.
For one simple reason that these poeple who invented this lie and you believed it Has a great hate against the Kurds , since the time of Kurdish Sultan Saladin ( Salahuddin Al-Ayubi ) how through out the Crusaders from Jerusalem
@@bjarepz8364 yet no historian agrees with this kird delusion. Sad. Historyless, countryless kird 😭
@@bjarepz8364 if this was the case then kirds would have a country, they dont. And yes im Persian because lurs and bakhtiari are Persian
In Pashto language also “mera” means husband but the “r” sound is different. Also, “sur” means red, “shin” green and “speen” means white in Pashto. And in my Farsi dialect of Afghanistan, “ru” means face.
All these are like Kurdish
Is there much difference between Lary (Achomi) and Luri?
Theyre both Persian speaking middle Persian dialects
That Kurdish from Iraqi Kurdistan autonomous region, he speaks six different local and international languages but doesn’t know Arabic language while Kurdistan autonomous region is a part of Iraq. It’s back to the Kurdish revolution against Iraqi government in 1991 then the international community demarcated a red line between the Kurdistan Region and Iraq following the Iraqi government defeat and withdrawal from the region. So the Kurdish language had become the merely official state language of the region, and the region completely de-Arabized after approximately 70 years of conflict between Kurdish rebels and Iraqi government.
I speak Arabic but forgot to mention it
@@bahaamin8950 my mean generally, as you didn’t mention. thought just know six languages, but i numbered all.
@@muhammadmamkaksherwany5333 sad colonialist?
@@muhammadmamkaksherwany5333he de-arabization was a good thing. We the kurdish people don't want to learn arabic so we don't end of discussion. We also hate iraq and everyone who wants to keep that abomination of a state together. It is our right to not want to co-exist with arabs
We don't have to speak the language of our colonizer
Bahador please do a video with all Zagros languages - e.g. comparing Laki or northern Luri with Sorani Kurdish, Feyli or Kalhori.
ملت زاگرس لهجه های زیادی دارد
مادها
Luri is Persian not kurdish
This is great thank you for Sharing ✌️☺️from Mahabad❤️☀️💚
Im a proud Luri Persian. Love to Iran 🇮🇷 💪
Sur" is a color. In baluchi it's also called sohr.
In baluchi "dar" is dar.. Wood but not tree.
in kuRdish its used for both
Lurs are Kurdish as written in Kurdish literature. Those lingual differences would disappear in a statehood. Thanks for such a well done video!
Lors are not Kurds, but we are related like all Iranians
Lor are Kurds and Kurds are Lor💚☀️❤️
Lur is lur.
@@SheroalKurdi96 Yes in your Dream
😂😂 lier and poor people. #kords
That was so interesting.
As baluch from Balochistan I understand 99 % words Kurdish and we pronounce same words
That's so wondrous
Luri should be more close to Sorani than Kurmanci due to they are closer to each other
But here the opposite
Sorani is essentially Southern Kurmanji with Southern Kurdish (Gurani, Fayli, Kalhor) influence. Many words retained in Kurmanji are more closer to their origin than say in Sorani, and this also goes the same for Sorani having some words closer to its origin. Can you elaborate on your point with an example?
Because it was Southern luri( bakhtiari) which is closer to persian . Northern luri dialects are closer to surani .
کوردی و لوری دو زبون جدا از همن چه ربطی دارن به هم ، شما کوردا خیلی حال بهم زنید
Sorani is called middle Kurmanji and Luri is called southern Kurmanji ❤️☀️💚
@@AG-gm7szluri is a separate language idi*ot
Herbijîn hemuyan!
Very interesting and cool. I have never heard about Luri Bakhtiari.
Both are not interesting :) just bakhtiari good brave people with honour.. lur people weak people with no honour just lying people
@@KurdeQonya Lurs in Charmahalo Bakhtiyar are called Bakhtiyari Lurs. understand?
@@KurdeQonyaبی شرف تویی هزار پدر عوضی🤢🤮🖕🏻
@@IranLurمگه فقط چهار محال و بختیاری لر بختیاری داره؟لرستان ، چهار محال و خوزستان
You mean similarities between the Kurdish dialects, because lur are kurds also. Luri is kurdish.
Are Lurs only in Iran?
Diala.Iraq
@@Sma_krd oh that's amazing to know.
I also Think in xanaqin iraq
Xanaqin Kurdistan
Lurs are Bakhtiari, Mamasani and Koh Giluyehis. Qashqais are Turkish leaders of Lorestan. They are arguable. There’s no Lors in Iraq. They are Kurds of Fayli tribe, they are mislabeled as Lors.
That was great. Good similarities between accents. I sow the Farsi and dary and achmi, they hardly understand achmi while they saying the achmi is the origin of Farsi
Spas Zehra ji bo nûnertiya te ya biserketî ji bo bakurê Kurdistanê. Her hebe ! Zimanê me hebûna me ye û em ê hebin heta heye.
Spasxweş heval, û ez jî spas dikim bo peyvên te yên xweş :)
@@zehra_korkmazdont kurds soeak 7 different separate languages? How is kurdish one language when theyre unintelligible?
@@KoroushRPstop spamming turk🦃🦃🦃🦃🦃🦃 go to Mongolia
@@KoroushRPthey are not unintelligent Kurds do understand each other if Kurdistan was not divided in between 4 countries they bond will be stronger to understand even I can hear and understand what they all say even though I don’t speak one of the two other dialects actually it’s called dialect continuum to the same language Kurdish
I think Persians also have this with other Persian speaking people
@@teknul89 Ignore the 🤡Kurush. He is a Tehrani susul. Lurs are Iranic but not Persian and never were. Our capital in Charmahalo Bakhtiyar is called Shahre Kord it means Kurdish city. The culture, language, lifestyle were always different. He is a NON-Lur troll most likely Arab.
good job guys
Ethnicity and nation does not completely depend on having common language (I know in many cases language matters), but it depends on having common history, culture, geography and common political decision and destiny. Indian people speak more than 10 languages inside India, but they all belong to the Hindi nation. Jews speak many many different languages, but they see themselves one and all of them identify themselves as a part of so called Jewish nation. Same thing for Persians (Most of the Persians speak Dari Farsi language, but there are more than three more distinct languages in Pars province in Iran spoken by Persians (Bandari language, Larestani/Achomi language..)etc.
Same goes for Kurds, even though Luri language is linguistically distinct from Kurdish language (despite of having many things in common and similarities), both speakers of Kurdish and Luri share common origin, common history, common geography (both are the people of Zagros), same culture...
I am myself a Kurd from the Kurdistan region and the city of Sulaymaniyah, my grandmother was a Lur. We are completely the same people.
We arent the same people. Us lirs are descendant of Persians and speak a dialect of middle Persian Pahlavi, also kurds speak 7 different languages.
@@KoroushRPtroll persian 😢 you really think we believe you? 😂😂😂
Kurds speak Kurdish and Luri (some identify Goran dialect of a Kurdish as another Kurdish language). But even persians themselves speak different languages such as Dari (Farsi), Bandari, achomi…etc .. linguistically they are three distinct languages
@@Kurdo_Barznji_Slemani luri is a Persian dialect and language and descendant of middle Persian, kurds themselves speak languages not even of the same origin, while luri has Persian origin. furthermore dari and farsi and bandari arent different languages, theyre mutually intelligible and all new Persian, luri, gilak, tat, mazandarani, bakhtiari and feyli are middle Persian Pahlavi Parsig. while kurmanji, sorani, gorani, zazza, kermenshahi pahlavi and feyli are not mitually intelligible. You can search it up if you dont belive me, but you most likely know this already and are just in denial, sad, lol
@@Kurdo_Barznji_Slemani also im Persian yes, a lur Persin and proud of my Persian ancestors, their achievements and empires.
@@KoroushRP lmao 🤣 I bet if u can write a paragraph in luri. troll gayRanian
13:48 I think the flower you're referring to is chamomile, in Arabic it's بابونج
luri is an amazing language.
Its descendant of middle Persian
It was fascinating!
Zor kêf xweş bûm ji bû vê vîdyoyê dest xweş Kurdino(Kurmanc,Soran,Lor,Lak,
Zaza,Hewrman,Kelhûr)
زۆر خوشحالبوم بو ئەم ڤیدیۆیە دەست خوش کوردنشینەکان (کورمانج،سوران،لور،لک،زاز،هەورمانی،کەلهوری) یەک زەمین یەک نیشتمان یەک وڵات یەک زمان بژی کورد و کوردستان💚☀️❤️☝🏻🫂
Bji KURDEN ZAZA
Joke 🤣
ما لور ها کورد نیستیم!سی میلیون لور در ایران هیچکپومشون خودشون رو کورد نمیدونن و‌خطاب نمیکنن حرفت خیلی احمقانه بود
Hi Bahador please do a comparison video Arabic and Pashto that would be really interesting to see.
Super und das ist ganz intressant . Als lur sehe ich mich kurde
The most widespread hypothesis is that they are not Kurds, but that they share a common ancestor, the Medes
as a sorani speaker i understood the kurmanji %100 but bruv the other two!😂 i’ve always thought luri would be similar to sorani
Luri Khorram Abadi is like Kurdish
ruclips.net/video/TqKcxwLE2nI/видео.html&pp=ygUW2LPZgtin24zbjCDYp9uMINiu2K_Ypw%3D%3D
ئەمنیش وا بیرم دەکردوە کە کرمانجی سخت بەڵام کرمانجی و سۆرانی زۆر وەک یەک دەچن
@@heymi.9488 luri is a Persian dialect from middle Persian
Thx Mr alast.
I have found 2 pushto wird’s between them.
❤ kurdish language ❤
Luri is Persian not kurdish. Luri is descendant of middle Persian and kurds cant understand us as the video shows
لر ها از کرد ها به وجود آمدن
@@KoroushRPlurs are kurdish lurs is kurdish langauge we are not even friend to persians😂😊
Brother, I will tell you something, don't be upset, but the history of Ler and the language of Ler are more than Kurds, and the Kurds are Ler.
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It proves that we all have same root , and same language just basically with different pronunciation and the place of the words in the sentences,, we all 1 kurd lur Persian mazindarani tajik ,,
I speak Kurmanci and it has been clarified that all are Kurdish and not different languages. Thank you all and kindly request you to continue!
In baluchi "erw" is aor.. Rain but not cloud.
Hello, I am Persian from Bushehr city, our Farsi accent is very close to Lori's, we also use many of the words that our friends use in the video.

because half of bushehr is Lurs and the language there is a mix between luri and farsi
شمال بوشهر جزو مناطق لر بوده، نه تنها زبون شما بلکه فرهنگ تونم شبیه هست راجع به لر های بوشهر تحقیق کنید.
عزیزم شما لور هستین
Luri is a Persian dialect is why. Luri is descendant of middle Persian Pahlavi.
@@kaywannluri is literally a Persian dialect stemming from middle Persian Pahlavi not a different language entirely
I can't get over the merd and merdum for husband ahaha (french person married to a sorani speaker) love it hihi
My father speaks southern lori from the Mamasani / Boyer ahmad regions of Iran. We are originally from the city of Kazerun, just west of Shiraz. There are similarities between all iranian languages. But Lori is overall different from Kurdish. Southern Iranians usually understand Lori better than Northern or Tehrani Iranians
@@TyamKasit-sd5yu 😂😂
@@TyamKasit-sd5yu I'm willing to bet a million dollars you're not a Lur.
چرا دوس داری خودتو زیرمجموعه قرار بدی؟؟ ما لوریم و اگه کلمه های اصیلمون بکار برده بشه هیچ فارسی قادر ب فهمیدن ما نیست.
Luri is a Persian dialect is why. Luri is descendant of middle Persian Pahlavi.
The Bakhtiyari Luri dialect is heavily Persianized. That is why it is so close to Modern Persian. Also Middle Persian did not descend from Old Persian that is boiler plate information fed from Wikipedia without any actual research. Middle Persian actually descends from a dialect of Parthian and was called Persian by the Sassanids once they established the empire after the Parthians. Both Middle Persian and Parthian were called Pahlavi for a reason! And old Persian is much more similar to Sanskrit than anything.
Hey Bahadur..
When will you do a video about Urdu? I want to participate..
For all who said lurs are not KURDS!
Are the Loris Kurds?
In a natural environment, free from external influences, people decide their own identity and no one has the right to impose their identity on others. In the Kurdistan environment, people's rights and historical facts have been mixed and the facts have been distorted. Historically and culturally, the Loris have been considered Kurds throughout history and have considered themselves Kurds. However, in the 20th century, under the influence of European scholars, pan-Iranian ideology, Persian and Iranian nationalism, there has been a change in the views of some Loris.
The name of the Loris appears to be composed of the words “Lo Huri” (1) which means “Huri youth, sun-worshipping youth” in Kurdish and “Lo Khurvi” which means “Huri youth” in Huri. The name also appears among the Kalhurs, who are neighbors of the Loris.
The name of the Kalhurs consists of (Kal+Hur) which means (brave/excellent/great+Hur) meaning (excellent Hurrians, excellent sun worshippers). The Kurdish word 'hur' has had a close meaning in the Huri language. The Huri people say 'khuri' in the morning, which means close to the Kurdish sun. There is.
Sharaf Khan of Badlisi, who wrote the history of the Kurdish nation, considered the Loris as part of the four groups of the Kurdish nation. Until the 20th century, when asked where the Loris came from, they told the story of Sulaymaniyah.
Furthermore, if we pay attention to some phenomena and aspects of Lorestan culture, the historical fact becomes clear. For example, if you look at the Lorestan region today, you will see that one of the most important areas of Lorestan settlement is Shahr Kurd, which means Kurdish city.
Throughout history, the area has been inhabited by Loris. Is it possible for the Lore city to be named after Kurds and not be Kurds themselves? Who are the Kurds after whom the city is named? It is also seen that the Loris dance like all Kurds and the drum and the zurna, which are instruments specific to Kurdish dance, are among the Loris and have their own characteristics like all other parts of Kurdistan, but are completely different from Persian.
In the Yarsani religion, whose founders and followers were among the Goran, Lore and sometimes Soran. In the book Sarnjam Yarsankan, Lori and Goran poetry are mixed in such a way that they cannot be separated from each other. Figures such as Shakhoshin, Baba Tayer Hamadani and many others who are considered important figures of the religion are all Lorestan, while the majority of the followers of the religion are Goran. The transfer of religious views and cultural perspectives between the Lorestan and Goran clearly shows the historical commonality that has existed between different parts of Kurdistan throughout history.
One of the characteristics that has emerged among the Kurds has been the phenomenon of women's power. The emergence of women in power has always been part of Kurdish culture and history. Unlike many of its neighboring nations, Kurds have hundreds of famous women. One of the most famous Lore women who strongly opposed Reza Shah was Qadam Khair. Qadem Khair has been like all Kurdish women in culture and behavior. Throughout history, they have played all the social and political roles of men.
Unfortunately, the political side has taken wing over the placement of the Loris in the outer cell of the Kurds. The Lori dialect is the same dialect spoken by the Failis in southern Kurdistan in the areas near Baghdad. The Failis consider themselves Kurds because they are not influenced by Persian nationalism and pan-Iranianism. If the Loris are brought closer to the Persians on the basis of language, this view is wrong. Because based on hundreds of historical and linguistic evidence, it appears that Persian is closer to Kurdish than Kurdish to Persian.
There is no doubt that the Loris have identified themselves as Kurds throughout history. Only in the 20th century, under the influence of Persian nationalism and pan-Iranianism, and European academic research, did they doubt their Kurdishness. Otherwise, according to historical documents, similarities in music and dance, language, religion, social relationships, etc.
They are like every other Kurd.
Source: Who is the Kurd (Soran Hama Rash)
F*u*k yourself and your fake historical evidence, we lurs as thousands light years not considering ourselves to be n*asty kurd, go make a fake nation with another people idi**t.
I am from balagriveh lorestan ur dilect is between kordi and bkhtiari but we are closer to bakhtiari than the rest. Of course we are in eastern part of minor lorestan and our trib is PAPi
I watched 22 minutes without getting bored ✌️
In baluchi " mire or merd" is mard.
Nice video! I like how Ali described it as transitional languages or dialects. When he spoke it sounded very Sorani or Fayli to me in terms of accent, however the words are spelt differently. Eg Zuzu v Zizi, Korom v Kuram. Similar differences between Kurdish and Persian to, Xanu v Xune, however as a Kurdish speaker I feel like Luri when spoken is closer to Kurdi than Farsi is to Kurdish. The most transitional dialect between Kurdi and Luri is probably Lakki, Lakki is Kurdish NW iranic but has much Luri influence. Laki also strangely features many similarities with Kurmanji and Zaza-Hawrami.
Tu xelkê kuderyê Bira
@@SheroalKurdi96 Mukriyan bira
Also you call each other Bira means brother in english baradar in farsi brar in luri and bakhtiary. The same root.
@@sh-kl5im Well in sorani baradar or berader means as much as friend
@@aimanaramaliali9692 maby it comes from Muslem thing and also "brotherhood" in Christianity use the same concept for friendship. not just religious It's international
Just a note, for the word "cave" in the Sorani-Hawleri (Erbil) dialect we say "aşkaft" rather than "aşka-wt". Usually Slulaymaniyah reagion dialect use "w" in place "f". For example the number 7 in the Suli dialect is "ĥawt" and in the Hawler reagion it's pronounced "ĥaft".
Laki its not luri dialect, laki is %100 kurdish dialect,similarity İts very normal because the same geography
right. Laki is very similar to Kalhori
can you understan laki though?
I speak shekbizni, very near to laki
@@GaziYALINKILIC-uo2qr very cool!!! since i have never heard of this dialect im assuming it's spoken either in kermanshah or around the border of ilam and iraq. can you give me more information about the dialect you speak?
@@GaziYALINKILIC-uo2qr my knowledge is limited to lur populated province of iran & faylis and laks
Is there any online material for the bakhtiari language?
زبان لوری گویش بختیاری ، میتونید در گوگل lur رو سرچ بزنید اطلاعات کافی در مورد قوم لور و رقص و لباسشون بالا میاره
Luri is Kurdish dialect ?!
Yes
Yes it is
No its a Persian dialect and descendant of middle Persian pahlavi, dont listen to these racist kird nationalists
@@KoroushRP
Pesian is one language and it hasn't any dialects 😂 cry harder poorsian
@KoroushRP
I have met many Lurs and they say we are Kurds
Is "baqe" related to Georgian "baqaqi"?
It means frog
In India Dada is a older male.dadi also female . south India classical Tamil language thatha is male .
Do you remember Baktiyar Khilji,the person who burned the Nalanda University
@@jame176 yes he did it.but south Indian palm leaf collection of literature which was saved by jains burned by invades like brahmins .
In fact, all Indo-European languages have the letters mtr for the word mother. but the interesting thing is that it means "to give" in Kurdish. i read somewhere. In ancient beliefs, the great gods have always been women. and the "da" meaning to give here comes from the woman's analogy to the earth. The soil provides us with food. we sow we reap. for giving birth to a woman. considered as sacred as the earth. daye-given "daye"- is the mother. this means. I'm Kurdish. I know the kurdish dialect. There are more words for the word mother. da,daye,yade,ci,mak
@@sivagurunathan3825 Brahmins never did that. The invaders from turkey and Afghan did. The library of Nalanda had so many books that it kept burning for 3 months
@@Godfather2121 oh wow!
Actually can you specify some of the dialects of Kurdish?
Luris are Persian whos language descends from middle Persian Pahlavi.
Lur and Kurds is the same.
We are not cousins ore similar, we are the same blood and Nation
We have nothing to do wtih your kirds we are Persian and proud
Kurda Baradaranemunan! Love Kurdish people. The music, food, dancing, nomadic lifestyle and warrior horsemen culture. Kurds always will be Lur brothers!
@@IranLur speak for yourself. Kiram tu halghe kirda
@@KoroushRP lol 😂😂
You are pretty fool dude 😂😂
We are not the same
Sur=Surati=red/pink/ Suri is the name Tom Cruise's daughter. Yes, he used a an Iranian word.
Shaow = Shab in Persian. A lot of words used here are the same in Persian with little change. I only know Persian even though my ancestor from father side is Bakhtiyari and my is from Kurdestan.
Yeah but some I've never heard before like eshkaft?
@@omid706 I didn't say all. Of course, if you pay attention to the root of a word, you might be able to guess. "eskkaft" maybe is related to "kashf. eshtekaf" in Persian. I am only guessing, since I have lived in the US since 1974 and I am not very good in Persian.
@@jonam7589 sure but at first or if I'd heard the words in a sentence I would not get it. They've varied to an extent that makes them different despite sharing the same root
@@omid706 That's very true. When I visited Kurdestan, I had no idea what my elative would say. As I learned a few key words and started paying more attention, little by little I started to understand more. Like "z" changes to "zh" Zan becomes Zhen. "choni" "chetori"; I think if I learn 300 words and stay there for 6 months, I should understand what they say. Languages evolve. They have much less arabic that Persian today.
They aren’t Persian words dude Kurdish is so much older than farsi
نوشتار با دوربین
Please compare the language of Tat Qazvin and Khalj and Vafs Arak or Arak Turk and Hamadan Turk with Qazvin and Zanjan Turk 🙏

For sure all of this languages are from persia
Kurmanji, Sorani and Lori are all routed in the Kurdish language.
Also Persia is not a land. It’s an ethnicity
@@wexqlp3863luri is a decandant of middle Persian not kirdish
@@servantofsusa7838 - LMAO Middle Persian (Pahlavi/Fayli) (Parth empire) is routed in the Median empire. Which is originally Kurdish. Cyrus the great Grandfather was Cyxares which was the Kurdish Median king. This makes the Achaemenid lineage also Kurdish.
@@wexqlp3863 lmao no old Persian
Middle Persian
Luri. Modern Persian Kurdish has nothing to do with it
Luri is a Kurdish dialect, right?
Yes
No luri is an independent language and descendant of middle Persian
@servantofsusa7838 No it's not. Luri and Kalhulri are literally just different Kurdish dialogs.
@@hamaguitar ok make a fool our of yourself we don't consider ourselves kird
@@hamaguitar dream on you can just search it up it will tell you it's a different language also luri is a southwestern iranic languages just like Persian Kirds speak kirdish which is a northwestern iranic language
Feyli and Laki actually very well in a group with the Kahlori. And this group is labeled as South Kurdish.
Actually in Iraqi Kurdistan Feyli is often also used to describe Kalhori speakers.
Bakhtiari and South Lori are in fact closer to Kalhori, Feyli, Laki(South Kurdish) and one could argue even Sorani (Central) than they are to Persian or Kurmanji. That is my experience.
Lori is equally distant to Kurmanji and Persian but closer to Persian than Hawrami-Zaza.
One statement of Ali put it well in perspective. It is more like a transition. There is no clear cut divide from Kurdish to Persian. Such a divide exists no where in this world with two related languages.
"Korom mar to baqe awi ke zi zi heeri mene aw mela ikeni"
in Kurmanji the sentence would be like this.
"Kurem ma tu baqî ku zu zu diheri avê mela dike"
If ali would say what you wrote in kurmanji in bakhtiari it would be.
”Korom mar to baqi ke zizi eri aw mela ikeni”
the ”baqe awi” means ”water frog” but in ur kurmanji sentence you only wrote frog and not water frog there fore k changed it so you get a betrer understaning for how it would be in bakhtiari.
Also in his sentence he said ”eri mene aw” wich means ”go in the water” you obly wrote ” go to the water” and in bakthari that becomes ”eri aw” and not ”eri mene aw” so the sentence becomes more alike in bakhtiari and kurmanji now
In farsi it would be
”Pesaram magar to gorbagei ke zodzod miri ab shena mikoni”
One could almost argue that farsi, lori and kurdish is dialects of the same language that we call XZY. And the north-western dialect of XZY is called kurdish, The central-western dialect of XZY is called luri and the southern dialect of XZY is called farsi.
Luri is a Persian dialect. Luri is descendant of middle Persian Pahlavi.
@@kaywann The difference is Kurdish and Lori are tribal ethnic groups where as Persians are not.
kurê min tu wek beqê diçîye nav avê û avjenî dikey
intrestingly enough in dakni we have sumthin similar to re ba re (certain parts call it that) while others call it ro ba ro (commonly)
Taliş and Zazaki may be interesting also
Zimanê mao zaf rindo û waşo 😚🫂💚☀️❤️
@@SheroalKurdi96
Zvonê ma zhaf/ghelek/xheyli rınd u baş/weş o.
Our language is very beautiful und handsome
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@@ZaZa-ln9jo her biciyo şêro 🦁🫂😘
@@SheroalKurdi96
Zazaki’d “her bıji” çiniyo Deza 😉
@@SheroalKurdi96 Bji KURDISTAN