Spanish flu vs COVID-19: An Australian perspective of a pandemic | Australian Story
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2020
- Until COVID-19 struck, very few had ever spared a thought for the 15,000 Australian victims of the "forgotten flu" that swept the globe during 1918-19. Watch more Australian Story documentaries here: bit.ly/36ABH2J
Intrigued by the parallels with the current pandemic - the mask-wearing, the quarantining, the social isolation - Australian Story delved into the archives and sought out the country’s expert historians.
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I believe some photographers are heroes. All through history they were in the line of fire too: on the battle field; in the hospitals. They risked their lives to never let us forget. We will never know most of their names or faces, but they're heroes too.
True. The face behind the camera ❤
I love a person who thinks you have a beautiful perspective
@@estreliasoriano9324 ,,.,
Really
Beautiful reflection there
It was said clearly enough! Those who forget history, stand to repeat it.
TRUTH BE TOLD!!!! SO VERY RITE, AND LOOK AT OUR DUMB ASSES JUST MAKING A GOT DAMN MESS OUT OF OUR WORLD, AND KILLING EACHOTHER OFF VERY QUICKLY AND CARELESSLY!!! ONLY TIME WILL TELL JUST HOW BAD THIS COVID 19 PANDEMIC IS GONNA EFFECT OUR FUTURE IN THIS WORLD!!! GOOD LUCK TO ALL BE SAFE AND HOPE YALL MAKE IT OUT OF THIS ONE ALIVE AND WELL!!!
They will because of refusal to take precautions especially in the USA I think the defiant leadership plays a part.
Google Spanish Flu Hutchinson Minnesota to see the lesson we haven't learned.
Sorry but Pelosi and Biden when Trump stoped the Chinese citizens from coming into the US from China he was called all kinds of names. Racist was one of it if it wasn't for Trump many more would have died. And most of not all died because of underlying causes....
@@guitarcountry1 then look up the actual death rates.from C19. this has a 99.97% survival rate. spanish flu had a 3-5% death rate.
God bless the people who fought so hard for the sick back then and all the Doctors and Nurses who are caring for the COVID19 patients this year.
Once it was over, no one wanted to talk about it.
the pandemic was a devastating blow. After it was over, no one really wanted to talk about it-and besides, there was so much else going on.
The economy hardship, recession, unemployment and loss of job caused by covid pandemic is enough to push people into financial ventures.
I wanted to invest more on digital currencies (crypto) but the fluctuations in crypto value discourage me into dumping.
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There is an old man who lives in Nashville that I know who survived the Spanish flu ww1 ww2 the Vietnam war and COVID 19 he celebrated his 104 birthday in march
edit: yes he only has a kid during ww1 but he was a refugee ABC did an interview with him but I can't find it
Elise Pelham Wow, great story, Elise. Thanks for posting. Have you considered taping some interviews with him about it? Unless someone else already has.
Way too go. Thank you for your service. Happy, Happy Birthday! All the very best to you!
My grandfather lived through The Spanish Flu, WW1 & 2, fought in WW2, and lived through the depression, all before the age of 40.
@@justylex Did he tell you the stories?
Maybe you should do an interview of him to keep what he has to say about all of it
One doctor I listened to said a vast majority of people were poor, had a deplorable diet, sometimes even eating dog food during this time. Their bodies were starving for nutrients, much like today with the processed foods and fast foods so many people exist on. So sad. I wear a mask for my neighbor. I eat nutritious food for myself.
I love that last sentence.
Thank you. My state just mandated face mask. 50% say they will defy it. It is the State of West Virginia. I've always been proud of my state until this covid outbreak. Ppl are use to being pampered i guess. We have alot of smokers. I think that plays a part. They can't breath with or without mask.
The sad thing is that mostly people from my age (16) died from the Influenza virus, scary since we got the strongest immune systems if you look at age groups.
Really sad tho :C
your mask has no value to your neighbor
@@AlexGNR ...
Was this ever explained?, that the stronger/younger people seemed to experience the 1918 Flu more severely?
My guesses about this age group:
1) they possibly socialized more than the elderly, thus aiding the spread. I'll make a bet that the elderly were having *less* sex than younger age groups, and who's gonna wear a mask during sex. ..okay, maybe a few people will ;-)
2) did they smoke more than the elderly?
3) were they getting less sleep than the older generation?
4) did they eat their vegetables as consistently as many elderly (especially those who had vegetable gardens)
5) they were more athletically fit, and had stronger lungs...stronger to draw that virus deeper into their lungs.
6) . .. probably a combination of all these factors
Its pretty fascinating. Listening to this video you'd never know they were referring to over 100 years ago. Everything including the confusion is virtually the same as 2020.
Can't agree with you any more.. Considering the same people who stole people are the same Government.. rich planation owners became judges and their kin became Cops and Lawyers.. full BloWn CouRt RoomS of Racist privileged White families. who Also had a slave ship they turned into an entire ReLiGioN.. That ship was called Jesus.. They wrote about this plan close to 400 years Ago.. you KnOw.. when Black people Ruled this Earth from the beginning of Time UnTiL them Slave ships .. NoW.. this White God made it all Up.. the Woman gave the Man an Apple.. da shit gets stuck in his ThrOaT...blah blah blah . SAME people in Charge.
but we know it's not true - right? it's all a fabrication- uh huh
@Bob Smith totally dig it.. Radiation Poisoning hits everyone.
@Bob Smith the current virus affects everyone.. highest growing rate of now Children being hospitalized.. Also, there is strong evidence that Spanish flu was followed by bacterial pneumonia and people died from that. Just like Covid, the Spanish flu originates in the nose ( which is way people who don’t wear their masks properly are maddening) and when the virus travelled into the lungs people developed a BACTERIAL infection which is why people died. Mind you, we did not have antibiotics in 1918 which would have saved people.
That is the Spanish flu in a nutshell. Covid virus can destroy the lungs which is why people die from it but is not from a secondary bacterial infection ( as was the case with the Spanish flu).
This is fantastic. I would love to learn more about John Cumpston and other heroes of the day. Australia did so well. My Grandfather, at age 2, lost his mother to the Spanish flu in NZ in Nov 1918. It was all about mass graves in NZ at that time. The loss of his mother had a terrible affect on his family.
Excellent and chilling documentary. We lost so much family in the pandemic of 1918 in Kentucky. I go back to visit my greatgrandmother's grave, and in every direction for as far as the eye can see all you see is "died 1918." So many graves, so many families left orphaned and bereaved.
Very sad indeed. So many "good" people lost whose DNA is needed in today's America.
for real ......surely these people had descendants? DNA can be obtained from family members.
WOW
Just more fear mongering about viruses...
@Gloria Dossett during this pandemic I found out that my grand uncle (great uncle) died of the Spanish flu. I knew he died really young but that was all. Can't even imagine how my great grandparents felt losing their son let alone losing him to a pandemic.
There were heros in1918/19 and there are heros now.
Doctors, Nurses and Essential Workers.
Thank you for your selfless service.
Now the US WH is doing the same thing with doctors and scientist
Also all the crucial workers that risk their lives to keep the societies running, truck drivers, cleaners etc.
Well said!
So you are saying that there are people who are not essential.
Are you suggesting they don't matter?.
badalona marginada what are you fishing for? I would say get a life but that’s hard ain’t it.
all four of my grandparents lived through that pandemic. in doing genealogy research, found one ancestor who was 20 yrs. old, leaving 2 babies for her husband to raise alone, she died in the pandemic in New York state USA. My grandparents never spoke of the pandemic, they were all 17-18 yrs. old. Lots of poverty at that time. My grandmother at age 17, became a Red Cross worker to tend to the wounds of people who were burned in the Cloquet fire 1918, most were taken to Duluth, Mn. where the hospitals were. I have a photo of her in her Red Cross uniform. The Cloquet fire was an immense forest fire in northern Minnesota, United States in October 1918, caused by sparks on the local railroads and dry conditions. The fire left much of western Carlton County devastated, mostly affecting Moose Lake, Cloquet, and Kettle River. Cloquet was hit the hardest by the fires. People talked of the fire, but not the pandemic that was raging at the same time. And soldiers going to war.
Anyone else annoyed that we didn’t learn from this pandemic... 😞
VERYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone else annoyed by people who somehow amazingly still dont know this is an overblown manipulation that uses fear to gain power?
Spanish flu killed 50 million people in 15 months! There's no telling what COVID-19 is going to do. People need to wear a mask and take this seriously it's no joke.
@@michaelterrell2108 Even the box the masks come in say the masks do nothing to stop the spread of a virus, including covid 19. Before 2009, to be called a pandemic, you had to have a worldwide high mortality rate. The WHO redefined the word pandemic in 2009, removing the need for an illness to have a high mortality rate to be defined as a pandemic. Pandemic no longer means deadly and this one clearly isnt, so why are you still trying to attatch the hysteria that goes with the old definition of pandemic to this one? What are you so worried about? Hydroxychloroquine, azithromyacin and zinc has clearly been proven to safely prevent covid as well as treat it. If you're under the age of 70, you have over a 99 percent chance of survival. Why the need to be such hypochondriacs all of the sudden? More people die of heart disease every year. Did you stress out about that too?
No
As what they said.....
"HISTORY WILL REPEAT ITSELF"
My great grandmother lost her bothers from the Spanish flu. She was 19 during the pandemic she talked about it to us growing up. How scary it was. I’m horrified to watch people today not take Covid seriously.
same here my grandparents told me about it but now there not talking covid seriously its sad they tell us about the past yet they don't follow the rules todays my friend with down syndrom says rules dont apply to her her mother told her its serious and that she should do her part but she just doesnt care its sad
My father lost his sister at age 17 from the Spanish Flu.
Sorry to hear that. If you don't mind me asking... How old are you?
@@steventhompson2511 me or m soad if me im 31
People have become self absorbed and not care about others and only think im in good health so i don't care if i get it, but you never know if you are in good health as docs dont pick up on simple things as i found out about.
I'm in my early 40's and knew about the 1918 flu, not like I know now, but I knew of it, it surprised me that a lot never had knowledge of it and those people were running this country.
Those who forget the past,
Are doomed to repeat it in future.
Placing victims of the virus outdoors im the sun and fesh air really helped patients get better sooner.
Yeh they didn't hide them from the sun. Because they knew more about health then doctors do now or are allowed to utilise.
@@Larimuss but the doctors now know more, but they are payed to hide...... there are MEDICINES for covid, but not allowed to tell or use them......... and cheap, 10$ for a treatment.................
@@hdj81Vlimited Yes, great treatments: treatments that do almost guarantee the death or severe life threatening of the treated, very efficient! Yet, the aim of treatment is NOT to pile up victims after victims. These actual medications have WAY TOO MUCH risks to be useful! Hard to believe people having been so critical about rare side effects of vaccine to the point of phantasy beliefs, we now would not care whatsoever about all the HIGN and REAL incidences of complications from these non-real lifesaving medications! Get real people! There will eventually be appropriate treatment against COVID, but NOT NOW! Only VACCINATION IS USEFUL, and HIGHLY useful. Just look at the magistral decrease of severe illness and death amongst all of the vaccinated. THIS, says it all. We are way far from this kind of results with any attempt at actual medication! Why on earth is it that HARD to understand for some and attempt to push these dangerous medications!? I am not talking about the few exceptions, there will always exist those.
They had a much higher survival rate
That's why they say vitamin D helps with covid.
People wearing masks in 1918-1919 always looked so quaint and odd in old photos that I had seen for years, in stories about that pandemic that I couldn’t relate to. And now I am wearing a mask myself, along with everyone else, which was impossible to imagine even just months ago. 2019 seems like ages in the past now.
Unfortunately where I live many wont wear a mask and it ticks me off
@@kelcritcarroll Fortunately, where I live, masks are being worn by pretty much everyone.
Quaint?
@@kelcritcarroll good for them! THINK while it's still legal
@@lisabek72 Isn't it questionable when the general public gets suddenly wiser that the Scientific Community... this role reversal happens ONLY during a serious crisis. This alone should tell us A LOT!
I was very sick with high fever & chills 7 years ago. I also have asthma. After about a week, one of my children visited. I was taking lots of Vit. C but was in bad shape. She insisted on going to Shoppers on Davie St. & came back with a bottle of Nyquill cold & flu.
At first I refused to take the blue liquid.I was a dedicated garlic, C and blue/green algae person. Then, fearing the terrible night ahead, I took the suggested 1
tbsp. Within 20 minutes, my appetite returned. I refilled the humiifier and had the fan on to cool my burning body. It allowed me to sleep, but it took 2 weeks to fully recover.
You might have caught h1n1 which was declared a pandemic in 2009 and was a dominant flu strain in the 2013-2014 year. I think I got it cause I was out for a good week and recovery was about another 2 weeks after that. Hadn't been taken down like that since my late teens.
Glad the oral history recordings were made. Those personal stories of then and now; help generations.
My great uncle Alfred died of the Spanish flu when he was 10 months old, back in the winter of 1919. A soldier had returned home, and there was a “dinner on the ground” at church to celebrate his safe return - barbecue, fried chicken, cakes and pies. He had a cough, but it wasn’t uncommon after traveling for days in the old coal fired trains. Two weeks later, he was dead, and a quarter of the town was dead or dying. The town never really recovered, as survivors moved away to escape the memories. Fast forward 101 years, and the sister he never got to meet, my great aunt, is 95 and dying from Covid. It is so weird to think that Alfred died in one pandemic, and his sister is dying in another a century later.....
Same advice as 1918- wear masks and keep distance.
@Deb it can mutate majorly like the spanish flu but it is deadly to people with a weak immune system while the spanish flu killed people with a strong immune system that is why covid cannot compare to spanish flu. and it is deffinately not as dangerous as the plague or variola (smallpox)
Deb is right.. everything going on today, especially in America; it’s a perfect storm to end up being worse once all is said and done.
@@eriklagcher7095 "It can mutate majorly" ????? What proof do you have for this ridiculous comment?
@@redpillthreads645 I am not gonna answer search youtube for answers there are 2 different versions of the virus the second version is 10x more
contagious but a little milder. but it could have been the other way around. virus can make mistakes and change inside the cells of its host.
@@eriklagcher7095 Oh really? Show me the scientific studies to support your ridiculous claim......
Whenever i see a black and white video... I get goosebumps... Eagerness to watch history and photos...it's just wonderful
Same 👍😉
Real time travelling
Make the most of your history lessons, BLM and the left want history abolished...
@@19thewanderer Some 'History' needs removed form public places(anything related to slaves, in a bad way). But we actually need to be taught about it. Not just remove it. The real history needs told.(not this watered down version)
I personally think they need to move those statues to one location and make it a museum. Add other parts of our history as well.
Lincoln Memorial? No it needs to stay.
Anybody can make a black and white video and make up a bunch crap about a time most of us werent alive for, and most of you will believe every word as long as it sounds reasonable. Doesnt mean it is true. Do you really think 100 yrs from now, they will properly convey all the lies? They cant even tell the truth in real time right now.. Imagine the Covid 19 story 100 years later! They have already changed the name to Sars Cov2 and redefined vaccine and herd immunity. This video could be a bunch of bull and I bet you would still get chills.
This isn't "forgotten" to me. My great grandmother was in high school when this hit in Kentucky. She and her schoolmates were out of school for two years. She was captain of the girl's basketball team at the time. But she lost so many friends and classmates from that pandemic. She caught it was well. It settled in her heart and took her life when she was only 78, long before I was born.
Only 78?
@@sbnl1214 My mom didn't make it past 71 because of a senseless lockdown. I know more dead from reaction to this COV hysteria than from that actual thing. Constant FUD every single day since Smith Mundt Act was repealed our own Govt gave itself permission to lie to us and now they want to gut the Nuremburg Code.
Sorry no disrespect,but 78 is a good age!! Families are losing children to cancer, Everyday.I wish I had my brother till he was 78, sadly cancer took him last year at 44.
She had a heart problem ?
I think 78 is young considering she probably would have lived well into her 90s if it wasn’t for her heart problem
For all the tech and medical advancements, we find ourselves in the identical situation today.
Best documentary that I have seen for a long time. I learned heaps!! Thanks ABC.
But please, please have a look at a completely different view that will change all you know-------- Oppenheimer Ranch Project on RUclips from a few months back did a presentation on this " Spanish flu"......🙏
@@chrisbliss2034 🌠yupppp
Very well done
We are making all the same mistakes now
Yes and no, some people do not educate themselves. You did and that is good more do! Wish you health and continued wisdom.
Except we should know better and any wussy who gets "triggered" when asked to wear a mask should be horse whipped. Buckle up butter cup. Geez.
What mistakes are those, besides inhaling the virus in?
@@sandyworkman3025 Oh I love it !!
@@sandyworkman3025 Your statement is hilarious, but very true!
Thanks for the superb narration and historical information. We definitely needed this "rear view mirror" to move forward. It has reinforced my confidence that we will overcome this pandemic with more kindness and humility.
There will be documentary on COVID-19 as well year 2019-2020 unforgettable. And will be history. I hope someone read my comment in future 2119😢😏😏😏
Are you referring to Event 201 in 2019 Oct.? Look it up if not. If you can still find it.
I'm just glad to have this wreck of a year end. We will start the new yr. with a new Pres. And a vaccine for Covid 19 which in turn gives me hope. Yes 2019 will go down as one of the worst in modern history. Cheers.
@@sandyworkman3025 its not going to get much better 2021 sorry to say
@@fredsayers4951 your exactly right! Too bad most don’t believe this
2019-2022(or longer) more likely, there seems like no end to this pandemic!
Please remember this was about 100 years ago. There was less jerks and dumb people that didn’t wear masks. Nowadays nobody is afraid to die, a lot of people don’t care about transmitting the virus. People were more understanding, people had sympathy. They listened and followed the rules. That’s the great difference.
Today we have political games and many by the herds follow what “their side” is telling them to do without using own judgement or tapping into empathy.
And what do you base this claim on? Did you live back then? There were several anti-mask leagues in the USA, and people did pretty much the same thing as you can see people do at the Trump rallies. The big difference here was that the Spanish flu was MUCH more deadly than Covid.
You talk about understanding and sympathy -- what about the World war that fed young men into a meat grinder for absolutely no gain and killed tens of millions. All for nothing. I'd say we have a LOT more understanding and sympathy now.
Lol
Excuse me, but you didn’t live back then either. Yes sympathy had a lot to do with it. There were no people out on the streets without masks. I’ve had people purposely cough behind me or straight up to my face.
And no social media to spread stupid conspiracy theories 🤦😂
Wow who would think we would suffer in such similar circumstances 100 years later.
One of the better coverage documentaries (more honest) about the Spanish flu than the other 5 I've already seen. Well done.
I am grateful to have seen a major part of Australia's history in relation to a similiar pandemic. And the result of us pushing through and coming out the other side of it, is a touching message and reminder for us to be able to do the same always- throughout any tough times ❤
Agreed but it sure would be great to push out the other side with the same freedoms we had going in.
@@dawn1568 it's a small cost to save lives, isn't it... even in this documentary, they speak of when the government relaxed the strictures on it's health policies, and showed the graph of the results of monthly deaths sky-rocketing because doctors and then the public lost faith in wearing masks.
I know you've probably heard this one, but imagine being able to save your life from cancer, by merely wearing a mask when you go out.
The other restrictions affecting small businesses etc... that is heartbreaking and enraging sometimes I will admit.
@@navigatormother7023 its a sad story that is based on fiction. There is no reason to continue to imagine things that are not true.
@@dawn1568 Are you meaning that the Spanish Flu is a fiction?
@@navigatormother7023 no.... wearing masks saves lives is fiction
Wow. Just wow. Watching this makes this Covid-19 Pandemic feel like Deja Vu. Maybe because it has been so long people have forgotten but so much of this resonates with what is going on in the world at the moment in August 2021.
Thank God for Historians. Clear headed intelligence and truth in leadership saves lives. Secrecy, fear and denial is deadly. Right America? 🇺🇸
Very well done! This is so like what we are going through now! So similar! Wish I had seen this before! Thank you to whomever was in this and whomever help make this & whomever brought this to us!
Yes..,, really appreciate this clip
My grandmother, who was born in 1906, told me many stories about the 1918 pandemic. That is why I take COVD-19 so seriously.
Covid is nowhere near the severity of the Spanish flu, not even close.
Excellent documentary. Important lessons to learn ....if only people would listen.
😷✌️🇺🇸
This is a very poor comparison. The Spanish flu and Covid-19 are nearly nothing alike. I will list the official Stats and well documented facts about both to demonstrate this.
They are as follows;
1
A. The Spanish flu had a 40% to 60% death rate based on nation.
B. Covid-19 has a 1% to 4% death rate based on nation.
For people who are ill-informed A Death rate is how many people who get sick with something actually die from that thing.
2.
A. The Spanish Flu was not hyper contagious. It was Normal levels of contagious for a flu as it was a extreme deviation of the SARS Virus.
B. Covid-19 is hyper contagious. It is as contagious as the common cold as it is the same exact type of virus. It just happens to be an extreme deviation of the Corona Virus.
3.
A. The Spanish flu is estimated to have had an uncontrolled spread for nearly 5 years before it was caught based on cases of those with symptoms who did not test positive for the normal SARS Virus..
Then it continued to spread nearly uncontrolled for 1 to 3 months after it was officially discovered due to incompetent leadership and mismanagement by all Organizations and Governments involved.
B Covid-19 is likely to have spread uncontrolled for 1 year prior to the first confirmed case in China based on the fact twice the people who actually tested positive for the SARS Virus in 2019 were classified as sick with the flu.
Then it continued to spread nearly uncontrolled for 1 to 5 months after it was officially discovered due to incompetent leadership and mismanagement by all Organizations and Governments involved.
4.
A. The Spanish flue did not have rapid mutations so if you caught it you were wholly immune for at least a year. Mainly because it was a SARS Virus thus mutated yearly more or less. Thus, Given enough time a vaccine could be developed.
B Covid-19 Does mutate rapidly so if you caught it you are not immune to it for any prolonged time. Mainly because it is a Corona Virus. Thus, no Vaccine can be developed, unless we develop a brand new vaccine every single week more or less.
5.
A. With the Spanish Flu the doctors could figure out accurate medical strategies to try to keep the spread under control. They attempted to accurately spread the news as fast as they could more or less. However, were limited by the speed of news papers.
B. With Covid-19 We are in the Information Era so do not have the limitation of time when spreading information. Also, the information is in theory at our fingers at any given moment if we are smart enough to know where to look.
Despite this Jerome M. Adams The USA Surgeon General, Anthony Fauci Head of the WHO, and countless other doctors and medical organizations spent between 1 and 11 months 9 days at time of post Failing to come up with accurate strategies or even accurate medical information. Then chose to spread misinformation just to not admit they did not know and still barely do.
This resulted in even more grave mismanagement by non-medical personnel and organizations like the USA Government than would have likely occurred if the medical Organizations simply said nothing at all. This lead to supply shortages, a total Global economic collapse, that was already coming, becoming 1.5x to 2x worse, And countless other problems. This exacerbated the problem.
6.
A. During the Spanish Flu the populace had good leadership who didn't panic and spread misinformation.
As a result there was less hysteria among the populace allowing the problem to be better dealt with.due to the people being as calm as they could.
The leadership admitted they were not fully aware of how to deal with it but Actually Worked toward a solution and kept the people calm and more or less informed as they went.
B. During Covid-19 the Leadership Actively spread misinformation so they wouldn't need to admit they didn't have it fully under control already.
When the leaderships lies made the problem worse they all panicked then doubled down on their own lies, so they didn't have to admit their own failures.
This has and is still Making the problem worse because the people are misinformed and panicking. This is the worst way to deal with any problem let alone a pandemic.
7.
A. During the Spanish flu the global population was 1.5 billion people
B The Global population during Covid-19 was 8 billion people.
8.
A. In the roughly 3 years the Spanish Flu out break was officially ongoing prior to a cure more or less being developed, it killed roughly 500 million people. That was at the time 33% of the global population.
50 Million in the first year alone.
B. At time of post in the 11 months 9 days that the Covid-19 outbreak was officially ongoing it has killed 1,159,534.
That is under 1.2 million people in around 1/3rd of the time the Spanish Flu killed 500 Million people. That is less than 0.5% of the deaths in 33% of the time.
If we keep up this exact same pace, in the same 3 year span, Covid-19 would kill less than 1% of the people the Spanish Flu killed in the same time frame.
Meanwhile we have over 5 times the global population of the era of the Spanish Flu.
This means while the Spanish Flu killed around 33% of the planet.
With the current pace and the same exact time span, Covid-19 would kill 0.0045% of the global population. in short, far less than 1/4th of 1% of the Global population.
This would actually place Covid-19 as overall less deadly than the normal SARS Virus, The Common Seasonal Flu.
The only Real Threats of Covid-19 as it stands are;
1 It's new and we don't know how to deal with it yet.
2. It is hyper contagious and Mutates very quickly.
As a result we need to be careful that more of the population than our supplies and medical systems can handle don't get sick, or suddenly everything is deadly.
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I will say this now because depending on how things go personally with me, I won't be able to say it much longer for one reason or another.
The Real problem is not the pandemic it is our own leaders, Political, Corporate, Medical, Scientific, Religious, or otherwise.
They have proven this to be an objective fact.
I do hope, for everyone sake,, we remember that once this pandemic is all said and done.
Our leaders have Failed to deal with this pandemic properly. They Lied and spread misinformation, They Made more mistakes than can be counted.
This pandemic is hardly the first failure they have made.
Even in just the past 3 years Our leaders failures are uncountable, in nearly every single aspect of everything.
They Refused to admit their failures and have actively chosen to pile up the Economic and Material cost with the bodies.
Just so they could avoid responsibility for their own actions as long as possible.
Our leaders relished in the result of their failures. Every single one to different degrees has done this.
No Single one can be blamed for the actions all were party to. They are all to blame to varying degrees this is a Simple Fact.
Our leaders When they failed to Deal with this pandemic properly, instead of admitting their failures and actually doing so.
They instead Choose to use it as a cover after they failed.
Wholly so they can break the laws over and over because no one is paying attention as we are all to busy dealing with a pandemic.
They go as far as to pass laws that are illegal by the Highest form of law, Especially in America, but to a lesser extend in a number of other nations like China.
Our leaders, Medical, Political, and Corporate have all shown they are, one and all Wholly incapable of dealing with problems. Incompetence paired with malice at it's WORST.
Our leaders have shown, if they fail they will sooner pile up the bodies than admit they screwed up and fix the problem.
Covid-19 is just an example.
There are countless examples in the past 3 years alone.
It seems they can't go more than a day without Failing at something else at this point.
Especially in America but to a lesser extent in other nations too.
I do hope that We don't so Quickly forget this for the sake of everyone.
However, I am sure based on history that most people will forget before long assuming they haven't already.
Many of the few who remember simply don't care.
They would rather Suffer and die, and have the same be brought on everyone they love than actually take any action at all to right the situation they find them selves.
I suppose that is what it means to have no principles.
The cancer that is our leadership has done a fine job eroding peoples Wills, intellect, motivation, and above all else principles. This is Certain. It is sad.
I suppose our leaders will now be forced, the cancer they are, to right this on their own, or they can lead us right into the abyss.
I don't much care I am simply inpatient to see the result of this farce,
I look forward to this charade coming to a close one way or another, because if they don't right this the end will not be in their favor let alone anyone else's.
I for one have a legitimate Desire to see if a cancer as malignant as them can achieve what they would expect of an average 3-year-old child or not.
The way it has been it seems a bit unlikely, but who knows.
@Aussie Hero Oh no, absolutely not.
I mentioned that, but you seem to misunderstand what Covid-19 is, even when it was explained.
Covid-19 is a serious variant of "a corona virus", not the other way around.
The common cold is "a corona virus"
Covid-19 is more deadly than the common cold but with most of the same traits.
They are the same virus.
Thus, Covid-19 is a serious variation of "a corona Virus".
As noted the last Serious Variation of "A corona virus" was The SARS pandemic in 2002-2004.
It was roughly as deadly in every aspect as Covid-19.
Unlike Covid-19 we didn't manage to invent a vaccine for it.
We simply dealt with it calmly and carefully putting out accurate information.
In 2 years we naturally killed it off using many measures.
Dealing with it calmly and carefully, with accurate information is not something we did this time around.
As a direct result, it got very out of hand.
For Covid-19 we made a vaccine by literally reinventing the vaccine, and way it works.
That means the last serious variation of "a Corona Virus" we had was less than 20 years ago.
The last serious variation of influenza was in 1920 around 100 years ago.
Even accounting for the fact that Covid-19 was now found to be artificial, and did indeed leak out from the lab in Wuhan.
Also, Anthony Faucci lied about that knowing it was the case.
Even accounting for that fact less than 20 years is fast to have a serious variation.
Would Covid-19 affect humans right now if not for the gain of function research happening at the Wuhan lab?
The answer is no.
However, given the rate of mutation of a corona Virus the likelihood we would have a serious variation before 100 years past is nearly assured.
Based on history, we have a serious variation of a corona virus every 50 to 150 years.
SARS was a naturally occurring variation, but not even the first in American history.
It was the second.
These while a big deal, are not that big of a deal.
Wholly because at most, even if totally ignored, they can kill around 2% to 20% of the human population at a maximum.
Mainly, as the other 80% when sick with them, aren't in any way affected.
That is called being "asymptomatic", meaning sick without symptoms.
As for influenza based on history we have a serious variation every 150 to 400 years.
These, while not as contagious, easier to get under control, and easier to vaccinate for, with even the old method of making vaccines.
Which didn't work for a corona virus, hence why we had to literally reinvent the method.
Taking all this into account, a serious variation of influenza is actually a much bigger deal.
Mainly because there is nearly no one that when sick will be Asymptomatic, meaning without symptoms.
As a direct result a serious variation of influenza, if totally ignored, could in the worst case, kill 100% of humanity.
Mainly, because unlike a Corona virus it can and will affect nearly 100% of humanity vs the 20%, at most, that a corona virus will affect.
In short, both are serious business and should be approached seriously and with care, but one is far more serious than the other.
As a result, I simply pointed out that it is a very bad comparison.
Even if we 100% ignored Covid-19, and in fact every person on the planet, got every single strain.
Also, there was no hospitals, no doctors, and no medicine on the entire planet.
At most 20% of the human population would die.
That is Not a small thing.
However, The Spanish flu killed around 1/3rd of the entire human population in it's time.
That is 33% of the human population.
Furthermore, they did everything to get it under control, and eventually did.
If they never did, there would be not a single human alive today.
The 1/3rd the Spanish flu killed even accounting for every effort being made is 33%.
That is 13% more of the human population, than covid-19 could ever kill.
This holds true, even if every single person on the planet, got every single strain.
All with no hospitals, no doctors, and no medicine.
Both are serious, and should be treated calmly, carefully, and with a cautious approach.
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However My point was, given the difference of the seriousness even in the worst possible case.
It is a very very bad comparison.
Not only due to the failure we had when dealing with it, by everyone, especially America, and China.
Not only due to the wildly different level of effectiveness of governments today when compared to governments 100 years ago.
Not only due to the fact we were also dealing with a World war at the time but aren't currently.
Not only due to the fact that the tools we have today should in theory make us more effective at dealing with this, not less effective.
Yet, we are less effective.
Not only due to the difference in actual death rates.
Not only due to the difference in possible death rates in the very worst cases.
But also, the fact they are both just entirely different illnesses.
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I mean what this video is doing, is in the vain of comparing a SUV to a Aircraft-carrier.
Both are forms of transportation, but both are very different things in nearly every aspect.
I noted that it was a bad comparison because every aspect of the Spanish flu and Covid-19 are different.
Not just medically, but in how we dealt with it, the tools we had, the situation we were all in when it happened, and even the maximum risks.
It seemed to me when I watched this video that it was made to muddy the water on the events in every single aspect.
Mainly, by comparing 2 things that are different in nearly every way, as if they are the exact same thing.
This is not beneficial, with anything really.
It is perhaps, at best, without effects, and at worst actively harmful.
Would you think it wise to treat a flood the same as a fire?
What about treating cancer the same as a heart attack?
Stairs the same as an elevator?
Why is this any different in the grand scheme of things?
@Aussie Hero No clearly If anyone is shameful here, it is you.
You claim "Your wife is a virologist", which I have some doubts on but I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, simply for the purposes of discussion.
So, lets say your wife is a virologist.
Despite that, you know nothing about illnesses, vaccines, medical science, the now confirmed origins of Covid-19 after a FOA request, Nor the history of Corona viruses, Spanish flu, pandemics, or anything else for that matter, it seems.
Most of my information is backed up by official sources such as The WHO, The CDC, The SAGE Group who invented the new Covid-19 vaccine method and decided to take no cut of the profits until Covid-19 was dealt with.
Also, things you can read in any historical text book on the planet that mentions the subject in detail.
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So, some how, despite your wife being a Virologist you are wholly ignorant of everything regarding illnesses.
Yet, you come to youtube to preach medically inaccurate nonsense, in the tail end of a pandemic no less.
Your actions are harmful.
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Assuming your wife is a reputable virologist, then most of what I said you should already know is true.
Despite that, you clearly lack any understanding at all on the subject.
Your willful ignorance is extremely disgraceful.
Even more so because you claim you have a viable resource in your own household.
Clearly, you refuse to consult that person before saying crazy stuff on the internet.
Then you try to use her as some excuse for your delusions.
It is disgraceful.
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Mind you the fact you brought up the delta variant which is documented by the CDC and WHO, and is unique to America.
I will educate you on that along with Covid-19, because I actually read not only both stats on it, but the scientific papers they published as well.
So, you claim the Delta variant can kill equal or more than 33% of the population.
This is not congruent in any way with the scientific papers or stats on the subject.
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Covid-19 is very contagious, but has around a 1.6% mortality rate.
This is the likelihood you die if you get it.
Based on the papers published by the CDC and WHO they estimate more than the officially recognized 40,800,000 people caught it.
Yet, the roughly 666,000 people in almost 3 years deaths, is actually accurate.
They conjecture 2 to 3 times more people than the number officially recorded, got it but were not recorded, due to being asymptomatic.
If this is true, and it likely is, then the mortality rate (which is how likely you are to die if you get sick with it)
Actually drops even more.
So, based on the CDC and WHO, scientific papers and stats the Death rate of Covid-19 is more like 0.4% to 0.8%
Which is still higher than the cold by a lot, but only around 1/10th of the normal seasonal flu which sits at 4% mortality rate.
That is around 825 times less deadly than the Spanish flu's 33%.
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The official stats and published papers of the CDC and WHO, basically all of them state the following;
The delta variant is likely around 1.5 times to 3 times more contagious than the original Covid-19 variant.
The mortality rate is not entirely clear as of now.
However, based on tests and current stats it is estimated to be some where between 1.2 times to 2 times more deadly than the prior strains of Covid-19 to unvaccinated people.
To the vaccinated people it is still catchable, but is less deadly than the common cold if caught, assuming you even manifest symptoms at all.
It has been shown to spread even by the vaccinated but for a shorter period.
As for the maximum number of people who can get Covid-19 and gain symptoms it is around 20%, with LESS THAN 4% needing to be hospitalized.
For the delta variant, based on current data, 80% of people are still immune, just like Covid-19.
However. the amount that need to be hospitalized, without a vaccine, seems to reach around 4% to 5%.
So, slightly higher, likelihood of being hospitalized.
The mortality rate is also higher than Covid-19 by around 1.2 times to 2 times, as previously noted.
The rate of spread, thus contagion seriousness, is estimated to be around 2 times to 3 times higher than Covid-19, as previously noted.
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In short, The Covid-19 has officially a 1.6% death rate based on current stats, and is estimated to actually have a 0.4% to 0.8% mortality rate.
This means the normal seasonal flu is roughly 10 times more deadly if you catch it than Covid-19.
The Spanish flu was 825 times more deadly if you catch it than Covid-19.
Also, Covid-19 had an absolutely 0% chance of ever killing over 20% of the population.
That is even if every person on the planet got it, all while there were no doctors, no hospitals, and no medicine.
(20% of the population is still serious and should be treated seriously, even if that is just the maximum risk possible)
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Officially, the Delta Variant has around a 2% mortality rate, and is estimated to have in reality a 0.8% mortality rate to a 1.6% death rate.
This is to say that as all other corona viruses, and is a common trait of such viruses, 80% of humans are by default immune.
It is far more serious than the Common cold, but in no way outside of common expectations, for a serious deviation.
It is also still between 1/4 to 1/2 as deadly as the normal seasonal flu.
Which is somewhere between 412.5 times less deadly than the Spanish flu, and 20.625 times less deadly than the Spanish flu.
With an absolutely 0% Chance, of ever being as deadly as the Spanish flu was.
Let alone how deadly it could have been.
This is again assuming every single person on the planet caught it, all while there are no doctors, no hospitals, and no medicine.
(I will say it again 20% is still serious and should be taken seriously, even if that is just the maximum risk possible)
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It is astounding that you have a person whom is supposedly educated on the topic in your home, but you spout things that are very much scientifically inaccurate.
Why do you choose to not follow the science on the subject, and also take such issue with people who do?
You are a science denier, it seems.
Why do you hate science so much when you supposedly married a scientist?
Thank you - at last the 'Spanish flu' is more than something that was virtually lost in history. It's important to have this information widely disseminated, it provides a new prospect on Covid-19 and makes one appreciate even more, the constraints we have imposed for the current plague.
Stop calling it the Spanish flu because it is well known that it started in the military fields of the USA
@@Lolitocat Partly correct - it shouldn't be identified with Spain. But while it was first identified within USA military, its actual origin is unknown. ref: Wikipedia.
@@Lolitocat it was name’d that 100 years ago so we can’t do that
aww that wee lady Jean Arnott sounds like my aunt 🙏🏽 a real lady, so lovely to hear these stories and also heartbreaking...
bless you Australia you are a great nation of people 🇦🇺🤍 thank you so much for sharing this
I remember when I was young, accompanying my parents to the cemetery on memorial day. As we walked through the cemetery I kept reading 1918 on dozens of old tombstones. I think I have always remembered that because most of the little tombstones were for children and at that time, I had never really thought about children dying.
History repeat itself if we fail to learn from the mistakes of our ancestors.
His story (history).
The reason it was called Spanish flue is because Spain didnt censure reporting the epidemic
All other countries did
Yeah because of the war
And one in particular didn t want the responsability : united states of america, where , so it s believed , it has began.
It said it in this documentary. I'm wondering what everyone was watching while lookin through this comment section 😂
It could have been called the American flu..
@@suehowie152 no it was censord in US also
Wow 100 years later, we are all in one pandemic now, i am so glad that the covid pandemic isn't worse than the spanish flu pandemic🙏🙏🙏🙏
Vry inspiring sharing
It's heart wrecking
n it's repeating disaster again after years
I remember reading about this in a book about natural disasters I had when I was 10/11 (I'm 16 now.) it's amazing how much yet how little stuff has changed from 1918 to 2020
It's weird to have younger people then me lol weird
Name of the book?
Judging by some people's reaction to Covid health restrictions, things do change--unfortunately, they seem to change for the worse. People here in the US are screaming and fighting for their "right" to endanger themselves and others and not wear a mask. It's absolutely ridiculous.
it`s amazing how clever you are!
Honestly, I don’t think that people didn’t know about or had forgotten the Spanish flu. It has been featured in period dramas, and it’s also part of history lessons.
PalemoonTwilight I don’t think it was forgotten, but I do think it has been largely romanticised and the sense of danger of it forgotten with time.
It depends on who you ask. We sent out a survey of more than 1200 people between the age of 18 and 68, just three months ago, and less than .04% of respondents knew anything about the Spanish flu.
(Similarly, you need only look on RUclips at all the recent videos posted in the past 24 hours, where the general public were asked about the origins of the 4th of July.
As an Aussie, it was both unbelievable and hilarious to watch. For Americans it should be highly embarrassing).
Debi Taylor As an American, I can say I look up both the Spanish flu and origins to whatever holiday, not because I don’t know it, but when it’s relevant to a conversation, current events (including holidays)or just a general interest , like to see if there’s new content about it. Asking about it doesn’t always mean you don’t know about it.
I moved around a lot as a kid in different states and the American revolution is one that’s taught in every grade to some extent and as you get older, usually more in depth. This also helps me explain it better or reinforce what I am saying when I am low on spoons.
In comparison, my Aussie hubby said in the schools he attended, a lot of Aussie history and political science is very lacking. And not surprised as I have encountered many aussies who think certain elements of American law is aussie law... (this makes trying to learn certain aussie things harder to learn via in conversation with other aussies.)
Both hubby and I are what you would call history buffs.
But agreed, it depends on who you ask and when you ask, be sure to ask the why’s as well-as that can paint a different picture than just what is looked up.
I think they call it that because so few wrote about it who lived through it. There's only one book I know of "Pale horse, pale rider," that expresses what it was like. There was never any Spanish Flu biographies, autobiographies, poems, art work. When it ended, it seemed as though people had 'forgotten' what they'd been through.
Pudin Tain “most people?” Who says?! People I know are well aware of it, and I would be hard pressed to find someone who didn’t.
Even trump did not know that his grandfather, Friedrich, died of the flu in 1918.
And Trump caught covid, history repeats itself
It’s like listening to the news today. We have learned nothing.
My 40 year old grandfather caught the Spanish flu during World War I. He lost his hearing and wore hearing aids for the rest of his life.
Sorry about that The Lord Jesus heal him in Jesus mighty name
@@GueraG4DAGOD He had a good life and is long dead.
14:17 "This is the local paper. It's very fragile"
Proceeds to manhandle it. She should at least be wearing gloves, and there is no reason to crease it and toss it about.
...yep that was my immediate thought too and she wasn’t wearing gloves either 🙄🤨
I didn't see gloves.
@@nate2611 Just fixed it. Thank you. I tend to type very quickly
I thought the same thing. She wasn't treating it like it was fragile at all!
Thank you for sharing this documentary, we live today because of the risks our great grandfathers took to take care of their own. Our people, the Maori of New Zealand were taken in large numbers, there were no vaccines, unhealthy living conditions, family members were dying daily in our small community, my great grandfather took the huge risk of burying the dead as soon as he discovered them, taking them straight to the cemetery, the surviving members weren't given time to mourn for their dead. My great grandfather wasn't popular for his actions but somehow, now, 100 years later, I feel he has been totally vindicated because within the last year, we haven't been able to carry out our own ceremonies because of the corona virus. Protocols have been denied for the sake of the whole and I am grateful to our Prime Minister and the Director General of Health for taking action immediately to save us all.
The 1918 Flu was a true danger. Covid is just governments trying to control you in every way possible.
So many of my family died in NZ in 1918 too. Samoa was even worse, a captain of a boat lied and said there were no sick onboard. There was someone sick and the Spanish Flu took hold quickly with the consequences of many deaths (I think about the Ruby Princess as a parallel today). So impressed with NZ and most of the Australian states and how they have handled Covid.
My grandmother had the Spanish flu and survived
It must have been a scary and difficult time for everyone back then.
I have such a great respect for every person who had then, and is now, looking after their community during a crisis. 2020 started with the country burning and by August streets in Melbourne are empty, we haven't caught a break, but people are doing the best they can. Look after one another during good times and dark times, its important.
My great grandmother on my mother's side died of the Spanish flu 1920. My great grandfather on my father's side went to ww1 and came home unaffected of the flu in 1919.
I really have to complement the ABC just for the fact that they allow comments on this as they dont on anything else. It gives the ABC a whole new credibility IF we can comment on what we are told it does make a difference.
I believe the Spanish Flu is still around but we know how to treat it. I believe I had it many years ago as I was throwing up and had diarrhea and ran fever. What most likely killed many was dehydration caused by the loss of body fluids. They had no IV systems back then to help treat the sick.
Well done, thanks for that! God bless us everyone!
The only thing remarkable about any of this is that humans never learn. Even after 100 years we stand nowhere against a virus. Waiting for another accident like all the big revolutions in biochemistry.
There a few viruses that have been eradicated, specifically smallpox and chicken pox.
yakkityyak chicken pox I’m pretty sure hasn’t been eradicated? 🤷🏻♀️
@@hannahmiller8708 You may be correct, my point is that many viruses have been controlled by vaccines.
@@hannahmiller8708 Rubella, Small pox, measles, chicken pox, have all been controlled by vaccines. Small pox was eradicated. Though they have kept some of the virus in case it is used as warfare. Most outbreaks of measles or chicken pox usually happen in communities like the Jewish communities who do not vaccinate.
@@beckah119 yeah, I live in the uk and chicken pox isn’t vaccinated against here so basically everyone I know has had it before
My grandmother’s sister died in 1918 from the Spanish flu. She was only 26 years old and about to get married. 😢
Same as in the Netherlands, schools closed etc. My grandmother lost a son and a daughter
Very interesting presentation. Thanks for posting and stay safe.
Really touching... the human spirit rallying at its best....❤❤🦋❤❤
I knew a lady who survived the spanish flu in the usa. she was in her 90s when we met and had survived h1n1 at 17. The last thing she remembered was preparing for a first date, going to the door to meet her friend and then woke up 2 weeks later in her own bed. she was amazing and I could sit at her feet and just listen to what she had seen and done.
It's a shame that modern drs are unable to learn from the past.
To me the puzzling part is how it finished?!
Even if more moderate strains developed, what happened to the severe original type?
No one knows but they have some guesses including herd immunity. The Spanish Flu killed people in their prime like 20-30. Not old people with other health issues like the China virus.. They think that older people may have caught a similar strain of flu when younger and it gave them some immunity that younger people lacked. There are still more questions than answers to this day.
The advice kept changing. Well, that certainly sounds familiar.
Science changes as more information comes in. That’s how it works.
Things change, we learn as we go along,
The first word means NEW, as in not seen before. Hard to know everything about something NEW. There is no manual on it, just like there was no manual in 1918. Best thing to do is wash your hands, don't touch your face, social distance, don't go to large gatherings, stay home as much as possible, wear a mask when you go out. BTW that information has not changed in months.
dustigenes
Yup, it’s not like a new virus come out and we suddenly know everything about it without studying/experimenting on it. And we will get the feedback as soon as they know more. I don’t know how people can’t understand it
@@dustigenes you mean novel lol
100 years ago and we can all relate - so bizarre seeing pictures of mask wearing people and doing the same under the chin style. Very moving doc, thank you x
This will never ever be forgotten from my side. Very sad indeed.
It was a historian who wrote a book that claimed the Spanish Flu originated in Kansas, the Pasteur institute in Paris, which has studied virology for decades, rejects that claim and still maintains Asia as the origin.
Love you, people! Wish you all the best. Don't know you, but i wish you to stay in a good health, mental and physical, ok.💯❤
My Great great grandparents were both killed in that pandemic. 100 years ago 20% of the population of Samoa died from it - not just infected, but deceased. I am keen to not repeat that 100 years later.
What 20%death rate oh geez
"This is very fragile" She then throws it on the table...... it already has tears why are you throwing it?! also, why isn't she wearing gloves...?
YES!!
Bleached paper, it'll be unreadable in another 20 years look how yellowed it is already. It's only been a hundred years.
Profound, exceptional, timely. Thank you.
22:19 History repeating itself today, and the phrase "Learn from history" really a must.
Funny, youtube seems to have removed my post you commented on.
Maybe a bug, but who knows.
Yep. 1918, australia makes their own vaccine for the Spanish flu. 2020, Australia has to buy vaccines because nothing is made here anymore.
Honestly…. People never see the trees for the forest.
@@AussieZeKieL America is much the same on that front.
1. We import 70% to 95% of the goods we use every year.
2. We currently import 60% to 80% of the electricity we use every year.
3. We had to buy many vaccines from Belgium, because the only ones we managed to make have a higher mortality rate than covid-19.
4. We Import more than 30% to 80% of the oil and gas we use every year.
5. We import between 20% and 80% of the raw material we use every year.
6. We import between 10% and 30% of the food we eat every year.
7. We Import 5% to 70% of the medicine we use every year.
8. Roughly 80% of all American Jobs are service Jobs, at present.
9. The USD is no longer stable enough to be considered a reserve currency, for the past 4 to 5 years.
10. America is no longer cutting edge in any field at all.
Other first world nations consistently, for at least 5 years, make better technology patents and more often too.
At this point, if other nations cut off America cold turkey, we would be a third world nation within 6 months.
That is the most generous outlook on that.
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The biggest reason America seems to be tolerated these days is our existing military force.
However, we are even failing there these days.
It seems the only thing America can do well, for the past 20 to 30 years, is military actions and production;
11. The only thing America seems to export is guns, new military tech, and troops.
12. The troops we export are often unwelcomed, and present in violation of international treaties.
13. We can't seem to keep to our existing treaties where our troops are welcomed/requested.
At least not for more than 1 to 3 years as of late, even in the best case situations.
14. The biggest national contracts America has are almost all related to our military, and/or military tech and weapons.
Furthermore, America failed more than one of those contracts, in the past 5 years.
Either because we lost the fight, and had to run away with our tails between our legs, or because the nation that contacted us for a new weapon, out did what we were offering, well before we finished.
This was the case with Japan and our agreement to invent and provide, a new high end anti-missile defense system.
Japan managed, in 3 years, to out do what we offered, and were working on for 4 years, with less than half the budget no less.
After we failed, we ended up giving them guns instead.
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I Might be a bit excessive mentioning this, but America has legit lost more than once in the past 5 years to literal third world nations.
Such is the case in Venezuela.
Where 5,000 American troops and mercs are currently still in jail, because we tryed to assassinate their democratically elected, all be it very corrupt, leader.
Furthermore, our Government is currently freaking out because we have little control over our systems presently.
We have been proven to be unable to keep the national broadcasting service, Oil pipelines, Government phone lines, Meat distributors storages locations, Chemical plants, Power plants, data bases, security cameras and even the private email of our CIA director, working how we want, and out of the hands of everyone and their dog.
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I am not even exaggerating on that.
The private email of the CIA director was hacked by a few random 16 year old's and the entire CIA couldn't get it back for over a week.
The only reason the CIA director has his own email now, is because those random high schooler's were in America and they finally managed to track them down and kick the door in.
Followed by striking a deal with them.
All So America could at least understand how a hand full of high schooler's, out smarted, and over came every agent in the CIA capable of electronic warfare for over a week.
Doesn't seem to have done them much good though because a month later every security camera in the nation was accessible on the dark web for well over a month.
Even those in restricted areas, and military facilities.
Our Generals and CIA have recently said, that they literally have no idea if we have control over our nukes or not.
(Namely, if they are currently compromised or not.)
We are pretty sure the silos, nuclear subs, and naval vessels, are all actually, on some level compromised.
We just have no idea how much.
We think maybe the bombers work fine but we have no idea according to our own military.
Thank you for opening my eyes. I really needed this.
In country Victoria we have just gone into lockdown like the metro area. This program reminded me of the way my community has been supporting each other since this pandemic began and gave me some hope about coming out the other side. Tomorrow I get my second dose of vaccine and I am reminded that we are in a position of far more knowledge than was known about virus’, how they spread, prevention and treatment than those poor people back in 1918. I hope this program is recommended to schools as a resource.
Good reflections and lessons learned from Spanish flu to COVID-19.
14:17 "It's very fragile" (tosses it)
I noticed that too!! Might want to be a bit more gentle with it then, hey? Lol
I noticed that also...
Without keeping her oil laden fingers off of it. Use gloves lady.
I died laughing at this 😂😂😂
Contrary to popular belief, The Spanish Flu did not start in Spain, but in fact Kansas, USA
At a military base, too.
Contrary to popular belief, Covid19 did not start from a 5G tower, but in Wuhan, China.
Not a fact, but Kansas was the first place it was listed. Like she said at the beginning, They do not know where it started.
I live in Northern California, when I visit grave yards (I'm a history nut), lots of old grave stones in my area are marked dead in 1918....
War also had ravaged with peoples' life and left them in despair. 💀🦴🦴
Keep your spirit up, get healthy, and fight back!
United we stand, divided we fail.
I believe in humanity! 🕊
I believe in you! ❤
AGAIN THOSE WHO FORGET HISTORY STAND TO REPEAT IT!!! NOW LET THAT SINK INTO EVERY 1S THOUGHTS!!!
Kay Jasper, Fake News 1918? Just stop and wear your damn mask!
Will Barrett, no I wear a full face motorcycle helmet when I get off my bike, because I don't go anywhere for long.
@Will Barett Best not go see a Dr.
@@2pikbone History also repeats itself when peole dont learn how pandemics have been faked in the past, how and why the WHO organization changed the definition of pandemic in 2009, and realize how fear is used to take away rights and push agendas.
I am seeing the phrase "history repeats itself" consistently being used in a way that is completely ignorant of the bigger picture or the complete truth. In order to learn from history ,you have to be aware of the true story to begin with. People are totally unaware of the supression of the real truth when it comes to historical events. Especially if no one or very few are alive still that do know. To act like you know what really happened and what the attitudes and compliance levels of mask wearing was, is ludicrous. Fantasizing that everyone was happily complying because they all were so much more considerate is stupid magical thinking and not the least bit based on reality. Smh Demanding people wear a mask when all science before covid says not to is what a sheep would do. Some people check things for validity before they just do what they are told. Then when they realize they are being lied to...... they will NOT "just wear the damn mask!' But you are more than welcome to if you so wish, because I dont become hostile if everyone doesnt do what I prefer.
Thank you. This helped me to understand covid better. I needed to see this.
history is indeed incredible, im thankful
Thanks for sharing ….. the history should never forget…..
One of the best documentaries I have ever seen. Thank you, 'our' ABC.
100 years. Long enough for the elders and their stories to be gone and short enough for total devastation to occur again. Always comes back to history u and not studying it..
Its not a question of not studying. History has been politicised and therefore is taught in interesting ways and the subects focused on are nor useful but leant to rienforce a certain political ideal. So people tune it out! If we changed how we view and teach history people would engage with it in a meaningful way
Our children wont be able to study history, if BLM and the Left get their way...
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People didn't want to remember all that bad times, I think it was painful to remember.
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And 100 yrs on and we are still doing the same. They need to stop people coming in. You leave you stay out.
The story of Nurse Egan really got to me. As a former Catholic, I know how terrifying that would be to die without receiving the final sacraments. May she, and all that died, RIP 😥🌹
Well I hope she confessed to Jesus who is the only mediator between God and man.
Hello,
Thank you for sharing your video😍
Have a good day 👌🏼
Stay Safe Everyone🌎🙏
My Grandmother lived on the road to the cemetery. For years constant coffins going along her road.
Do expect dead people go there by foot?
Exactly 100 years later. There are no coincidences
Very interesting documentary. I read that even back then there were people who refused to wear masks because it was a threat to their rights....head slap!!
@@waaromloopjemeteenmuilkorf7537 There is no pandemic therefore there is no need for masks. Not saying there are not flu deaths, that is an unfortunate issue yearly and civilization is not shut down. But there is no pandemic. The hospitals here, in an area of 4 million people, have been empty since March. They were busier in previous flu years even though a supposed deadly pandemic is going on. All masks do is make people look like zombies. They sure as hell wouldn't protect you if there were actually a real deadly pandemic going on.
Seems like someone/people in the Australian government actually learnt from history. All the right things from the Spanish flu they repeated, all the mistakes, they learnt from & did better. Sure, we still made mistakes this time around, some really big ones, but overall, we did well as a nation didn't we. We should be proud of ourselves, not let our success lead into stupidity following. Thanks for a great doco ABC :)
@@waaromloopjemeteenmuilkorf7537 hmm given your profile pic says you're declaring war on factual information, I'm not sure if there's much point responding to you really, but tell me how they did worse in your view
Well we have better medical intervention now. But keep in mind we're just one airplane ride away from a pandemic as we've seen with covid19
Spoken too soon
The government did EXACTLY what they were ordered to do by their masters at the UN!
Im assuming u are from Australia? Im from the usa and the response here is basically a joke...so many dont even believe we have a pandemic...can u believe that?! This country has been dumbed down so bad its scary
I live in Australia. My friend’s father was born in 1919 in Newcastle here and his mother died two days after the birth, of the Spanish Flu. It was brought into the hospital by the workers on the coal ships arriving to unload in the port of Newcastle. He is still alive and is 101. Never knew his mother of course as she was dead within two days of contracting the virus.
Sorry to hear that. My mom's dad died died when she was 2 and didn't know him at all. My dad was born in 1921 and he never told stories from his dad about the Spanish Flu, I don't know why. Unfortunately he died 30 years ago so I can't talk to him about it. Your friend's dad is a survivor, glad to hear it/ My great aunt was still driving at 102 until she had an accident and ended up in court and gave up her licence lol
Thank you for this amazing historical account.
Everyone should watch this
My DIY masks of today are made of muslin, so it looks like I have something in common with one of the elderly interviewees from the archives.
Yes, that they are of little use.
My grandmother lost three of her brothers in Sydney from the Spanish Flu, they were in the service
Fascinating doc. Thanks 🙏
I want to know when did the Spanish flu come to an end that everyone could go back to a normal life I'm curious to know.
Seems to have went dormant (at what time, I'm not sure, I'm still watching) but this is the same variant that hit the US in 2009 and apparently hit Russia in 1977. We just now have a vaccine for it that works. H1N1 is nasty. My son had it when he was a toddler.
About two years
It never went away but became the seasonal we know of. It's not as deadly as original virus strain as the world developed immunity and vaccine against it.
Approx 3 years
1920