I know people don't buy these cars to modify, but nobody wants to talk about how the atlas has almost the same aftermarket support as the golf, theres lowering springs coilovers, raising kits, tunes wheels made specifically for the car there's subwoofers made to replace the spare tire holder there's so many things you can do to these cars and everybody just reviews them and they're like oh it's boring My dad has a a vr6 atlas on coils and with an apr intake and an exhaust and the thing is a lot of fun to drive. It feels like a really big Mark 4 GTI. And with that new EA888 2.0T in it stage one is like 350 horsepower
I'm a VW fan, my dad was a Chief Foreman for VAG (VW Audi Group) until 1995. VWs are just not what they use to be in build quality and reliability. More so for the US built vehicles vs European built. There is already a major engine recall on the 2024 Atlas.
@@Blue-moon12 All of the Volkswagens I like were built after 95 so maybe I just like shitty cars? Lol My a3's got 200,000 miles on it going good. The interior is still very nice. I agree that Volkswagens do seem to get cheaper and cheaper. Every generation (materials not cost)
@RubzNotNice you can buy a sub specifically for the new vw atlas that is round and is placed in the same place as your spare tire just look up vw spare tire mount subwoofer
Pilot over Atlas any day. The Pilot may have a small screen, but at least I don’t have to rely on the screen for everything like climate controls. In the Honda, you can adjust climate controls without changing the infotainment display because all you would have to do is to push a button or turn a knob. In the VW, you have to open up climate in the infotainment and go into menu after menu. Honda’s infotainment only controls audio and navigation for equipped trims, that’s how it should be. The infotainment and capacitive panels shouldn’t be usurping buttons for HVAC and headlights
@@edoliver4255 if the software has issues, then physical buttons will be immune to that, but voice control won’t be. Software issues are causing VW to delay their next generation EVs, so software issues is a thing
@@Blank00 they made a stupid choice without realizing it was stupid. Once they got the backlash from all their customers, they announced that they decided they will switch back. This was actually a couple years ago, not sure why they haven't been quicker with the switch back. But it will happen. They wanted to be innovative but failed completely.
@@pixelatedsn0w if VW knew that the capacitive panels aren’t received well by consumers well before this abomination was revealed, they should’ve scrapped this abomination of a refresh and started working on a new refresh with physical controls. Yet, they went ahead with this abomination and this implies one of two things 1. When they said physical buttons will return, yet their new designs contradict this, they ignore what their customers want 2. They lie to shoppers and tell them what they want to hear
Having owned numerous VW and Audi's as well as having 3 Pilots...we preferred the 2024 VW Atlas R-line vs the top trim Pilot. The driving experience, premium feel was better as well as overall room and getting in and out. The only thing I would give a slight edge to the Honda was reliability. Both our dealers here are exceptional so we have not experienced any issues with delayed parts. With 5 kids we have 8 vehicles in the family and these 2 brands are my favorite.
The honda is the better car to own and it has a V6. VW moving to a 4 cyl was a terrible idea, especially considering the VR6 is a great motor. Sounds tingy and nowhere near as smooth as the Honda motor and 10 speed.
I agree with everything that was said above except for Honda Reliability . Big mistake I should have chosen atlas over Pilot atleast I would have had ride confirmation. My Pilot Is in and out of showroom for the past 1 year . Brought new and now it reads 60000 miles
When the new generation Honda Pilot was resigned, Honda made it a point to talk about the Trailsport trim, and how they resigned it with additional features to be more suitable for off road use. One of those features is called TrailWatch. At 13:55 Sam mentioned the lack of 360 camera on the Pilot Trailsport. This is due to Honda decision to remove the TrailWatch system from the Canadian Pilot Trailsport. TrailWatch is only available on American Pilot Trailsport. More people really need to call Honda out for removal of the TrailWatch from the Canadian version.
Here I'll make it simple for folks who are looking to buy one these two rides for a longer family ownership & not just for show and tell. One is trusted and well known for reliability, cheaper parts, & maintenance while the other one is the total opposite. You're welcome!
I just bought a 2024 atlas SE basic model has all the safety features it feels like if I am a lawyer driving it I’m just a truck driver I feel like it’s so premium. Love it.
what a awesome tag heuer watch! I'm about to receive my Teramont aka Atlas. Pilot was my second option, but the interior space for VW is huge, I think even bigger than some full sizes SUVs.
You forgot to say that the Atlas has heated and cooling seats since the base model and the space that you have under the gear level is massive. Also in fact for me is a better vehicle than the Pilot🙌🏼
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Sam, you should have showed the cubby underneath the center console, it’s really handy.
I've been a Honda guy since our first 1977 Honda Civic H/B 5 speed. We drive a 24 Odyssey. We had a 2019 Passport and had issues with Ghost Braking.....then this weekend while driving to VA the Odyssey slammed the brakes on three times during that trip. A total safety issue. Thank God we didn't get slammed from the rear. Honda needs to step up and fix this safety problem. BTW...after all of this...I'd go with the VW
I agree. I know chains can go bad, but every 100k miles having to do the belt and water pump. At least it's around every few years or so it needs to be done.
I used to have that mindset as well - until I began seeing how many modern engines seem to have issues with the chain drive... Not sure if it's materials or design, but overall it seems that so long as you do replace a belt on schedule they are almost _more_ reliable than the average chain design. Many stories from multiple brands warning about stretch chains or skipped teeth - maybe it's related to the modern valvetrain complexity? Either way, the 105K belt replacement in our 2015 Pilot cost about $700 - when you consider that includes a new water pump, I think that's not too bad for resetting the reliability factor.
Cant beat the germans, honda was never a vehicle compared to german cars, all these Japanese and asian cars feels like riding a donkey compared to german. Difference is huge!
See which one you like after the warranty has expired. The Honda is going to be far less expensive to own. Especially when the turbo breaks on the puny I-4 engine (as you know that it will). That 3.5 l V-6 will go nearly forever. Not to mention that the Pilot has a FAR better 4WD system than the Atlas. Personally, can't understand why so many people put so much emphasis on gadgets and gismos. Things that you are rarely going to be use and will inevitably fail. The Pilot is a vehicle that doesn't overwhelm you with those features and I prefer that. Scrolling through menus to control nearly everything isn't for me. It's also dangerous. There are enough distracted drivers out there. I don't need to be one of them. But, people don't feel fulfilled if they are not swiping screens.
How dare you said Honda has better not full time AWD than Atlas? Have you ever drive 4motion Vw before? Honda and toyota and Nissan carries the most unreliable and unstable fake AWD. You need to learn to own a car and have longer test drive then type your words
If you're the type of car buyer that trades in every 3-5 years, you can even drop down to Hyundai / Kia if you wanted all the gadgets to save money. But if you buy for long term ownership, Honda / Toyota is the way to go. My 2009 CRV had 335K on it when I traded it in - and I still got a respectable payment for it! Similarly, we just got $12K for our base model 2015 Pilot with 160K miles - that's because even with that milage there's plenty of life left in it.
Having owned VW/Audi and Honda products, I'd far prefer the Honda as a car I can count on to last a long time and if it needs repair to not be stuck waiting a long time for parts and have it back on the road quickly.
Definitely be cheaper but the 2.0t with the eight-speed is super common parts are everywhere. They aren't as cheap as the Honda but you aren't going to be waiting for parts. Although after I typed this, I realize you might be in a different country than me and parts could definitely be sparse for Volkswagens
I too have owned both. Honda is cheaper to maintain but less enjoyable to drive. We got rid of a last gen Honda Pilot for an Atlas. The Atlas felt slightly larger was actually much better over a road bump near our home. The seats in the VW have held up substantially better than the cheap leather used in the Hondas. The infotainment was much better in the VW. The Honda fm reception was trash. We paid extra for the Nav in the Honda and it was awful. The icon for your car would hover in the air off to the side of the highway. Multiple updates didn’t correct. Fit and finish wasn’t as good either. Unfortunately it was the last of five Hondas I’ve owned. We currently have an Atlas, a Jetta, and a GLI. They have all been dependable and maintained accordingly. You will spend more for things like brakes but I was able to get 50k out of the first set on my Atlas and just swapped the ones on the Jetta at 55k miles.
@@TheMlvswollthe new pilot infotainment is different than the last gen, at least by hardware. Maybe the new infotainment is not as bad as the last gen. Honda also changed the overall seat bones design recently, maybe the same can be said about leather. New Pilot rides on a different platform than old, maybe suspension characteristics is different too.
I never owned a VW Atlas 2024 Trailsport version and drove it for 4 hour drive. It just blew my pilot in terms of dynamics . 2.0 liter turbo has done a better job
There is nothing wrong with looking like it’s from 2018 when looking like a 2023 means less ergonomical. The 2020s have introduced a lot of dumb trends like capacitive buttons and baking everything into the infotainment. VW may have proven that capacitive buttons and baking HVAC into the infotainment is possible, but it does not mean this is better than physical HVAC controls because it’s solving problems that never existed. Such trends need to die out and they need to become nothing more than fads
Not sure why you said the Pilot has no fog lights. You can clearly see the led fog lights on the Honda Pilot Trailsport in the video and a quick check of the website also shows you get fog lights.
All u have do is set the ac to a temp ur comfortable with and sync with rear seats put on automatic. No need for ac adjusting but it’s not hard at all. I own it
If it were possible id take the Atlas, engine swap the pilot motor into the Atlas, swap the badges. Honda is great at everything but i strongly believe that their automotive designers should be fired , almost all their models are out of proportion and looking lackluster.
Pilot looks lame and so uninspiring. The space is also lesser in Pilot. People complaining about touch controls on Atlas, are forgetting that all "new EVs" are also just touch screen. However, you have all the controls on the steering wheel. Atlas' ride is way better and connected. The 2.0 Turbo is fine. There's no problem.
Honda all day everyday if u want to keep it for 10 years or more. This is coming from a family who owned a 2007 CRV who ddnt give us issues and still kept after 17 years . We had a 2014 tiguan and just under 50k miles gave us a transmission issue. We sold it and upgraded to a pilot.
Just booked the Vw Atlas exceline pearl white had vw jetta 2021 never had any issues with reliability with vw in the past. After test drive i loved it never felt i am driving a huge car premium beige interior ❤
I'm a VW/Audi guy and I'll be the first to say that the Honda is probably a better car regarding longevity... But it's also hideous af. Just like everything else they've been building over the past what.... Almost decade?
Unfortunately VW is pushing that 2.0 Liter 4 cylinder too far ,boosting that engine to the moon in heavy vehicles will be its demise. The inline 5 with turbo is much better idea which they have in warehouse from the Rabbit.
Yep! I owned the VR6 version, drove the 4cyl version and NO WAY. Felt to tingy. Pilot V6 felt great by comparison. Interior nod goes to the Atlas but at the end of the day who cares.
Warning Honda Fraud! I purchased a 2023 Pilot Trailsport with the factory tow hitch, the day I planned on using it I realized it was missing the trailer wiring harness. The dealer estimate to get it installed is roughly $700! 😡
I contacted Honda USA, but they refused to cover the cost. I installed the wiring myself, paying $200 for the genuine kit. did not remove the bumper and wheel side fenders per instructions, worked out great! 😊
That type of turbo engines are typically less powerful, less reliable, more expensive to maintain and repair. The only advantage of the turbo is slightly higher efficiency. And looks like the most carmakers start to chase for efficiency and absolutely ignores that turbo engines have not the best dynamic. That causes people to buy hybrid (if they do need efficiency and performance) or v6 ( if they need long term relaiblity and performance). And this made turbo kind of strange solution without any true visible advantage. Yeah if you like a car outlook or are a fan of some specific make/model then you probably will buy it with turbo, however in all other cases you probably will choose hybrid or v6.
Comparing a unreliable atlas to a Honda Pilot 😅😅😅 Resale value, features, reliability etc… Honda wins all day… My brother in law Atlas is literally falling part after 1 year… Honda evens beats the Toyota Grand Highlander also!!
@@SamCarLegion the same they had for years with that engine, burn oil like mad, doesn't hold up after a couple of years! I don't want to imagine after 5 years of having that truck how much it will cost in maintenance. The 3.6L V6 was way better.
I’m a dinosaur who prefers smaller 18” wheels and physical controls for things I use all the time. VW’s obsession with haptic and touch screen isn’t what I want to deal with while driving in Seattle traffic. I’d also prefer a normally aspirated engine for relative simplicity. I’ve been a VW fan for years (GTI, Alltrack, and a Golf) but the Pilot will get the nod for my family SUV.
@@oakleyxmetal9040 it's such a piece of piece engine! Ask any mechanic,they will tell you! They fall apart rapidly and cost a fortune to maintain. I would get a Pilot all the way at this price, c'mon.
Hahaha. The Atlas is a cheap SUV. Poor reliability and would avoid it like the plague. There is a recall on Atlas and Atlas Sport for connecting rod issues. Happy New Year
Two übersheiße aberration cars which should never exist at all. It's absolutely NONSENSE to exist such a HUGE SUV which runs 99% FRONT wheels only (vw using haldex derrivated garbage, then honda an similar system)
The VW is the better machine. Its build quality is much higher and looks better in and out. The Honda looks like a cheap plastic car but that’s what you get with all Hondas or Toyota.
@@kyleflemming9182 which Part is wrong that isn’t a biased opinion? 1. The Atlas is more premium or 2. The Honda interior and exterior looks cheap ????
Looks is subjective and superficial, therefore it does not determine which is a better machine. The “wood” trim on the VW is a great example because that piece is actually dipped plastic. How can you know for sure that VW has a higher build quality than Honda and Toyota? The Honda is designed to be more durable than VW, this means Honda has the better build quality.
better styling? VW better tech? VW better build quality? VW better spacing? VW Not to mention, the Honda is a new gen while the VW is several years old now. perhaps the Honda might have a better track record when it comes to reliability, but these days VW has closed that gap. but in all honestly, America has an obsession with large cars and SUVS. I would never buy either. queue in the triggered Honda internet fan boys with their vape pens and inferior android phones. "MUH reliability and resale value"
VW has not closed the gap. The 2024 Atlas already has been recalled for engine issues. How can you be sure that the new Atlas has better build quality than the new Pilot? Have you been inside both of the latest versions? The Honda is more durable, that’s better build quality. The Honda also has better ergonomics, because if you want to adjust climate controls or headlights for instance, you use hard buttons with tactile feedback and they work almost 100% of the time. In the VW, those functions are controlled by capacitive panels and some features are baked into the infotainment. This is a less ergonomical solution. When it comes to baking things into the infotainment, you would have to go into menu after menu for some features, which is more tedious than pressing a button. Capacitive buttons are less ergonomical than real buttons because capacitive will not always recognize input if you are wearing gloves or if you press with a fingernail. Also, styling is subjective and not everyone needs the tech in the VW
@@L.RILEYSQUATS2PEE every Honda, Toyota, Subaru etc I've been in rattles, closing the doors sounds flimsy as a 50's jeep. Panels, rubber parts are more likely to fall apart, clear coat is very frail etc. the stats show that Hondas aren't that much more reliable than VW's these days anyway
@@anon511 Different type of engineering, not an inferior type of engineering as you are trying to infer. You're comparing apples and oranges in terms of design and engineering. Japanese wins, hands down every time in the reliability category. Germans win in the bells and whistles and weight and feel category. I own two Audis, and I love them, end of the day Honda will always be the better "investment". They're just boring, kind of like an appliance in your kitchen.
VW ATLAS comes with crappy 2 litre COROLLA like engine🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.......How much did they pay you to promote it?????🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑.........Atlas was best until 2023 when it had VR6 with 4motion......They screwed it😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝.........Next gen Atlas will come with 1 litre twin turbo🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
Don’t say Honda is more reliable! Nowdays Japanese brands sucks! Too many issues and freaking rattles in new fking car!!!!!!! My 3.6vr6 atlas works perfect in winter and 0 issues 0 rattles 0 freaking annoying problem , don’t ever say Honda is reliable!
I know people don't buy these cars to modify, but nobody wants to talk about how the atlas has almost the same aftermarket support as the golf, theres lowering springs coilovers, raising kits, tunes wheels made specifically for the car there's subwoofers made to replace the spare tire holder there's so many things you can do to these cars and everybody just reviews them and they're like oh it's boring
My dad has a a vr6 atlas on coils and with an apr intake and an exhaust and the thing is a lot of fun to drive. It feels like a really big Mark 4 GTI.
And with that new EA888 2.0T in it stage one is like 350 horsepower
Good point there
I'm a VW fan, my dad was a Chief Foreman for VAG (VW Audi Group) until 1995. VWs are just not what they use to be in build quality and reliability. More so for the US built vehicles vs European built. There is already a major engine recall on the 2024 Atlas.
@@Blue-moon12 All of the Volkswagens I like were built after 95 so maybe I just like shitty cars? Lol My a3's got 200,000 miles on it going good. The interior is still very nice. I agree that Volkswagens do seem to get cheaper and cheaper. Every generation (materials not cost)
@kilovwdude6457 - could you expand on "there's subwoofers made to replace the spare tire holder"
@RubzNotNice you can buy a sub specifically for the new vw atlas that is round and is placed in the same place as your spare tire just look up vw spare tire mount subwoofer
Pilot over Atlas any day. The Pilot may have a small screen, but at least I don’t have to rely on the screen for everything like climate controls. In the Honda, you can adjust climate controls without changing the infotainment display because all you would have to do is to push a button or turn a knob. In the VW, you have to open up climate in the infotainment and go into menu after menu. Honda’s infotainment only controls audio and navigation for equipped trims, that’s how it should be. The infotainment and capacitive panels shouldn’t be usurping buttons for HVAC and headlights
Good point 👍
Honda nailed simple controls on this generation.
@@alexmassengale433 yup, and when it’s time to redesign the Odyssey, the HVAC buttonboard and the steering wheel are what I hope they carry over
The Vw can be voice controlled though
@@edoliver4255 if the software has issues, then physical buttons will be immune to that, but voice control won’t be. Software issues are causing VW to delay their next generation EVs, so software issues is a thing
VW needs to fix the lack of a volume knob and physical HVAC controls.
But VW knows this. It will be updated next year or so, I imagine.
If VW will bring knobs back to the Atlas next year, then why did they remove knobs in the first place?
@@Blank00 they made a stupid choice without realizing it was stupid. Once they got the backlash from all their customers, they announced that they decided they will switch back. This was actually a couple years ago, not sure why they haven't been quicker with the switch back. But it will happen. They wanted to be innovative but failed completely.
@@pixelatedsn0wI think it took a while on purpose , so people will forget the 2024 came out like a year ago and act like it’s a big and new innovation
@@pixelatedsn0w if VW knew that the capacitive panels aren’t received well by consumers well before this abomination was revealed, they should’ve scrapped this abomination of a refresh and started working on a new refresh with physical controls. Yet, they went ahead with this abomination and this implies one of two things
1. When they said physical buttons will return, yet their new designs contradict this, they ignore what their customers want
2. They lie to shoppers and tell them what they want to hear
Having owned numerous VW and Audi's as well as having 3 Pilots...we preferred the 2024 VW Atlas R-line vs the top trim Pilot. The driving experience, premium feel was better as well as overall room and getting in and out. The only thing I would give a slight edge to the Honda was reliability. Both our dealers here are exceptional so we have not experienced any issues with delayed parts. With 5 kids we have 8 vehicles in the family and these 2 brands are my favorite.
The honda is the better car to own and it has a V6. VW moving to a 4 cyl was a terrible idea, especially considering the VR6 is a great motor. Sounds tingy and nowhere near as smooth as the Honda motor and 10 speed.
I got 2018 vr6 love that engine not the mpg but power wise live it’s got 128000 mi still really good
I agree with everything that was said above except for Honda Reliability . Big mistake I should have chosen atlas over Pilot atleast I would have had ride confirmation. My Pilot
Is in and out of showroom for the past 1 year . Brought new and now it reads 60000 miles
@@jc51373 I am surprised how VW 2 liter engine drives when compared to my Pilot 3.5 v6
When the new generation Honda Pilot was resigned, Honda made it a point to talk about the Trailsport trim, and how they resigned it with additional features to be more suitable for off road use. One of those features is called TrailWatch.
At 13:55 Sam mentioned the lack of 360 camera on the Pilot Trailsport. This is due to Honda decision to remove the TrailWatch system from the Canadian Pilot Trailsport. TrailWatch is only available on American Pilot Trailsport.
More people really need to call Honda out for removal of the TrailWatch from the Canadian version.
Here I'll make it simple for folks who are looking to buy one these two rides for a longer family ownership & not just for show and tell.
One is trusted and well known for reliability, cheaper parts, & maintenance while the other one is the total opposite.
You're welcome!
Great video Sam. I’d love to see a 1 v 1 on the track with these two.
I just bought a 2024 atlas SE basic model has all the safety features it feels like if I am a lawyer driving it I’m just a truck driver I feel like it’s so premium. Love it.
what a awesome tag heuer watch!
I'm about to receive my Teramont aka Atlas. Pilot was my second option, but the interior space for VW is huge, I think even bigger than some full sizes SUVs.
Not sure if it’s good idea to put the 2.0 engine from golf to the biggest VW three row SUV.
1.5turbo on other hondas as well as 2.4t on Subaru and Toyota's. Why not ?
X1 has a 4 cylinder 😅😅
not to mention all the pickups as well with turbo 4's, guess we'll see when they hit higher mileages
Just bought a 24’ SEL R-Line for my wife. No regrets.
Hmu when you start having issues, I wanna know.
I was waiting for a drag race
You forgot to say that the Atlas has heated and cooling seats since the base model and the space that you have under the gear level is massive. Also in fact for me is a better vehicle than the Pilot🙌🏼
Sam, you should have showed the cubby underneath the center console, it’s really handy.
I've been a Honda guy since our first 1977 Honda Civic H/B 5 speed. We drive a 24 Odyssey. We had a 2019 Passport and had issues with Ghost Braking.....then this weekend while driving to VA the Odyssey slammed the brakes on three times during that trip. A total safety issue. Thank God we didn't get slammed from the rear. Honda needs to step up and fix this safety problem. BTW...after all of this...I'd go with the VW
Atlas looks so much better and spacious
Only gripe with Honda is the timing belt on the v6. Get with the times nobody wants to deal with that extra maintenance cost anymore
I agree. I know chains can go bad, but every 100k miles having to do the belt and water pump. At least it's around every few years or so it needs to be done.
I don't want excessive maintenance either. That's why I'd go with the Honda over WV any day of the week.
I used to have that mindset as well - until I began seeing how many modern engines seem to have issues with the chain drive... Not sure if it's materials or design, but overall it seems that so long as you do replace a belt on schedule they are almost _more_ reliable than the average chain design. Many stories from multiple brands warning about stretch chains or skipped teeth - maybe it's related to the modern valvetrain complexity?
Either way, the 105K belt replacement in our 2015 Pilot cost about $700 - when you consider that includes a new water pump, I think that's not too bad for resetting the reliability factor.
I find the Honda Pilot looks awkward and I think the Atlas is a far better looking car and will look that way much longer than the Honda.
Cant beat the germans, honda was never a vehicle compared to german cars, all these Japanese and asian cars feels like riding a donkey compared to german.
Difference is huge!
See which one you like after the warranty has expired. The Honda is going to be far less expensive to own. Especially when the turbo breaks on the puny I-4 engine (as you know that it will). That 3.5 l V-6 will go nearly forever. Not to mention that the Pilot has a FAR better 4WD system than the Atlas.
Personally, can't understand why so many people put so much emphasis on gadgets and gismos. Things that you are rarely going to be use and will inevitably fail. The Pilot is a vehicle that doesn't overwhelm you with those features and I prefer that. Scrolling through menus to control nearly everything isn't for me. It's also dangerous. There are enough distracted drivers out there. I don't need to be one of them. But, people don't feel fulfilled if they are not swiping screens.
How dare you said Honda has better not full time AWD than Atlas? Have you ever drive 4motion Vw before? Honda and toyota and Nissan carries the most unreliable and unstable fake AWD. You need to learn to own a car and have longer test drive then type your words
If you're the type of car buyer that trades in every 3-5 years, you can even drop down to Hyundai / Kia if you wanted all the gadgets to save money. But if you buy for long term ownership, Honda / Toyota is the way to go.
My 2009 CRV had 335K on it when I traded it in - and I still got a respectable payment for it! Similarly, we just got $12K for our base model 2015 Pilot with 160K miles - that's because even with that milage there's plenty of life left in it.
Having owned VW/Audi and Honda products, I'd far prefer the Honda as a car I can count on to last a long time and if it needs repair to not be stuck waiting a long time for parts and have it back on the road quickly.
Definitely be cheaper but the 2.0t with the eight-speed is super common parts are everywhere. They aren't as cheap as the Honda but you aren't going to be waiting for parts.
Although after I typed this, I realize you might be in a different country than me and parts could definitely be sparse for Volkswagens
I too have owned both. Honda is cheaper to maintain but less enjoyable to drive. We got rid of a last gen Honda Pilot for an Atlas. The Atlas felt slightly larger was actually much better over a road bump near our home. The seats in the VW have held up substantially better than the cheap leather used in the Hondas. The infotainment was much better in the VW. The Honda fm reception was trash. We paid extra for the Nav in the Honda and it was awful. The icon for your car would hover in the air off to the side of the highway. Multiple updates didn’t correct. Fit and finish wasn’t as good either. Unfortunately it was the last of five Hondas I’ve owned. We currently have an Atlas, a Jetta, and a GLI. They have all been dependable and maintained accordingly. You will spend more for things like brakes but I was able to get 50k out of the first set on my Atlas and just swapped the ones on the Jetta at 55k miles.
@@TheMlvswollthe new pilot infotainment is different than the last gen, at least by hardware. Maybe the new infotainment is not as bad as the last gen. Honda also changed the overall seat bones design recently, maybe the same can be said about leather. New Pilot rides on a different platform than old, maybe suspension characteristics is different too.
I never owned a VW Atlas 2024 Trailsport version and drove it for 4 hour drive. It just blew my pilot in terms of dynamics . 2.0 liter turbo has done a better job
What?
Pilot Trailsport in the US includes 360 cam. Odd they left it off in CA
It also has usb ports in the third row seating. Wonder why the CA version did not, or if it was just missed.
both are good but the VW looks like a Car from 2023 and the Honda from 2018.
I prefer the pilot. Looks more rugged which is more my style.
Both are GARBAGES, biiiiig SUV's with "permanent FWD" type of.. AWD 😂. Cars for pussies which need to show off but have no clue about driving.
The VW Looks Like An Expensive 2016 Ford Explorer
There is nothing wrong with looking like it’s from 2018 when looking like a 2023 means less ergonomical. The 2020s have introduced a lot of dumb trends like capacitive buttons and baking everything into the infotainment. VW may have proven that capacitive buttons and baking HVAC into the infotainment is possible, but it does not mean this is better than physical HVAC controls because it’s solving problems that never existed. Such trends need to die out and they need to become nothing more than fads
The vw will fall apart after 12 months, the Honda will go on for 12 years and still look good!
King pilot 😍
The atlas also has a peak edition which is more similar to the Honda they used in the video’s trim level :)
the main part in car is the engine and no car can compete with Honda engines
Not sure why you said the Pilot has no fog lights. You can clearly see the led fog lights on the Honda Pilot Trailsport in the video and a quick check of the website also shows you get fog lights.
All u have do is set the ac to a temp ur comfortable with and sync with rear seats put on automatic. No need for ac adjusting but it’s not hard at all. I own it
If it were possible id take the Atlas, engine swap the pilot motor into the Atlas, swap the badges. Honda is great at everything but i strongly believe that their automotive designers should be fired , almost all their models are out of proportion and looking lackluster.
in an Atlas try third row with second row slided all the way back. 😅
Pilot looks lame and so uninspiring. The space is also lesser in Pilot. People complaining about touch controls on Atlas, are forgetting that all "new EVs" are also just touch screen. However, you have all the controls on the steering wheel. Atlas' ride is way better and connected. The 2.0 Turbo is fine. There's no problem.
good vid, thank you
Glad you liked it!
2 kinds of cars in the world vw and the rest 💯 cool review 🔥
This should have had the haptic steering wheel. Looks way better and isn’t hard to use.
Honda all day everyday if u want to keep it for 10 years or more. This is coming from a family who owned a 2007 CRV who ddnt give us issues and still kept after 17 years . We had a 2014 tiguan and just under 50k miles gave us a transmission issue. We sold it and upgraded to a pilot.
Best on what or for who?
Just booked the Vw Atlas exceline pearl white had vw jetta 2021 never had any issues with reliability with vw in the past. After test drive i loved it never felt i am driving a huge car premium beige interior ❤
I’m an Vw guy manly cuz I drive an Diesel car
But the Honda looks better.
Probably going to last longer as well.
The older Vw SUVs I like better.
I'm a VW/Audi guy and I'll be the first to say that the Honda is probably a better car regarding longevity... But it's also hideous af. Just like everything else they've been building over the past what.... Almost decade?
I was hoping he'd call out the lack of shift knob in the Atlas like he did in the Pilot.
I have called it out in my review
And the capacitive panels
plz compare palisade vs atlas
Unfortunately VW is pushing that 2.0 Liter 4 cylinder too far ,boosting that engine to the moon in heavy vehicles will be its demise. The inline 5 with turbo is much better idea which they have in warehouse from the Rabbit.
Yep! I owned the VR6 version, drove the 4cyl version and NO WAY. Felt to tingy. Pilot V6 felt great by comparison. Interior nod goes to the Atlas but at the end of the day who cares.
I'd go with the Honda just on the engine one. This huge suv with a 2.0? No way.
Warning Honda Fraud! I purchased a 2023 Pilot Trailsport with the factory tow hitch, the day I planned on using it I realized it was missing the trailer wiring harness. The dealer estimate to get it installed is roughly $700! 😡
I contacted Honda USA, but they refused to cover the cost. I installed the wiring myself, paying $200 for the genuine kit.
did not remove the bumper and wheel side fenders per instructions, worked out great! 😊
Atlas way better than pilot I got one space wise nothing compares to it exept a van or Tahoe so they say
Doesn't the VW come with a 4-year warranty?
Yup. 4 year 50k warranty bumper to bumper. 5 or 6 year 100k powertrain warranty
That type of turbo engines are typically less powerful, less reliable, more expensive to maintain and repair. The only advantage of the turbo is slightly higher efficiency. And looks like the most carmakers start to chase for efficiency and absolutely ignores that turbo engines have not the best dynamic. That causes people to buy hybrid (if they do need efficiency and performance) or v6 ( if they need long term relaiblity and performance). And this made turbo kind of strange solution without any true visible advantage.
Yeah if you like a car outlook or are a fan of some specific make/model then you probably will buy it with turbo, however in all other cases you probably will choose hybrid or v6.
japanwatchconnectioni don't know, the test drive of such turbo was not impressive, simple jeep cherokee easily can overtake such atlas
Comparing a unreliable atlas to a Honda Pilot 😅😅😅
Resale value, features, reliability etc…
Honda wins all day…
My brother in law Atlas is literally falling part after 1 year…
Honda evens beats the Toyota Grand Highlander also!!
Pilot will significantly last longer than the Atlas.
Hondas 3.5 it’s got so many recalls and the tine belt it’s a no no for me not till they ll put chain will be a quite expensive to replace it
I think the Honda looks confused.
The Atlas is so ugly, wtf with the mags!? Fake exhaust? No thanks, and the issues they have with the 2.0t 🤮 ! Pilot all the way.
Which issue?
@@SamCarLegion the same they had for years with that engine, burn oil like mad, doesn't hold up after a couple of years! I don't want to imagine after 5 years of having that truck how much it will cost in maintenance. The 3.6L V6 was way better.
I’m a dinosaur who prefers smaller 18” wheels and physical controls for things I use all the time. VW’s obsession with haptic and touch screen isn’t what I want to deal with while driving in Seattle traffic. I’d also prefer a normally aspirated engine for relative simplicity. I’ve been a VW fan for years (GTI, Alltrack, and a Golf) but the Pilot will get the nod for my family SUV.
Don't forget audi/vw carbon build up on the valves. Swear theirs is the worst I've seen.
@@oakleyxmetal9040 it's such a piece of piece engine! Ask any mechanic,they will tell you! They fall apart rapidly and cost a fortune to maintain. I would get a Pilot all the way at this price, c'mon.
Honda quality mirror broken already 😩
Atlas' drive is way better than Pilot.
Atlas.
Both are horrible on gas.
atlas is better
VW Atlas 💪
2 liter 4 banger in this huge suv? Good luck.
Pilot: thieves love it, insurance companies love it.
Atlas: mechanic loves it.
Any one buying a Atlas over a Pilot should have their brain examined.
Speaking of brains: “an” Atlas not “a” Atlas. 😮
😅
I have been reading blogs about this Athlas and it has many serious problems …..many….I really liked this SUV but it is off of my list 🙁
when driving your not looking at sreen
your driving in thers car loot going on
True
Does this guy not understand fuel stats? Seems to confuse hwy milage with combined mileage. Biased against honda.
Atlas too much plastic😂
this price...... 😂😂😂😂😂
and no too much option😂😂
Hahaha. The Atlas is a cheap SUV. Poor reliability and would avoid it like the plague. There is a recall on Atlas and Atlas Sport for connecting rod issues. Happy New Year
Hate to break it to you but, the Pilot has a steering recall. Causing loose steering or steering lock up. Every car gets a recall.
Two übersheiße aberration cars which should never exist at all. It's absolutely NONSENSE to exist such a HUGE SUV which runs 99% FRONT wheels only (vw using haldex derrivated garbage, then honda an similar system)
The VW is the better machine. Its build quality is much higher and looks better in and out. The Honda looks like a cheap plastic car but that’s what you get with all Hondas or Toyota.
So wrong.
@@kyleflemming9182 which Part is wrong that isn’t a biased opinion?
1. The Atlas is more premium or
2. The Honda interior and exterior looks cheap
????
Looks is subjective and superficial, therefore it does not determine which is a better machine. The “wood” trim on the VW is a great example because that piece is actually dipped plastic. How can you know for sure that VW has a higher build quality than Honda and Toyota? The Honda is designed to be more durable than VW, this means Honda has the better build quality.
This huge suv with a 2 liter four banger? No way in hell...
Toyota, Lexus, Mazda all use 2 liter with Turbo.
Honda Pilot is a cheap overhyped product honestly. There is a big difference in reality and internet fan boys version of the reality.
Can you explain how the Pilot is cheap?
@@Blank00 worst quality interior. Worst infotainment among the segment.
Go sit in the 2024 Atlas and the Pilot and you would know what I'm talking about
Honda is proven. Have you checked the history of the 2 brands. Go find consumer reports reliability charts. Then come show me what reality is...???
Vw is garbage! Period. Honda has resale value and better reliability!
better styling? VW
better tech? VW
better build quality? VW
better spacing? VW
Not to mention, the Honda is a new gen while the VW is several years old now.
perhaps the Honda might have a better track record when it comes to reliability, but these days VW has closed that gap.
but in all honestly, America has an obsession with large cars and SUVS. I would never buy either.
queue in the triggered Honda internet fan boys with their vape pens and inferior android phones. "MUH reliability and resale value"
VW has not closed the gap. The 2024 Atlas already has been recalled for engine issues. How can you be sure that the new Atlas has better build quality than the new Pilot? Have you been inside both of the latest versions? The Honda is more durable, that’s better build quality. The Honda also has better ergonomics, because if you want to adjust climate controls or headlights for instance, you use hard buttons with tactile feedback and they work almost 100% of the time. In the VW, those functions are controlled by capacitive panels and some features are baked into the infotainment. This is a less ergonomical solution. When it comes to baking things into the infotainment, you would have to go into menu after menu for some features, which is more tedious than pressing a button. Capacitive buttons are less ergonomical than real buttons because capacitive will not always recognize input if you are wearing gloves or if you press with a fingernail. Also, styling is subjective and not everyone needs the tech in the VW
VW has a better build quality?? Bro, you're not living in reality
@@L.RILEYSQUATS2PEE sadly there are people who believe that looks, styling, and aesthetics dictate how build quality is
@@L.RILEYSQUATS2PEE every Honda, Toyota, Subaru etc I've been in rattles, closing the doors sounds flimsy as a 50's jeep. Panels, rubber parts are more likely to fall apart, clear coat is very frail etc. the stats show that Hondas aren't that much more reliable than VW's these days anyway
@@anon511 Different type of engineering, not an inferior type of engineering as you are trying to infer. You're comparing apples and oranges in terms of design and engineering. Japanese wins, hands down every time in the reliability category. Germans win in the bells and whistles and weight and feel category. I own two Audis, and I love them, end of the day Honda will always be the better "investment". They're just boring, kind of like an appliance in your kitchen.
VW ATLAS comes with crappy 2 litre COROLLA like engine🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.......How much did they pay you to promote it?????🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑.........Atlas was best until 2023 when it had VR6 with 4motion......They screwed it😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝😝.........Next gen Atlas will come with 1 litre twin turbo🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
Finance Japanese, lease German
Don’t say Honda is more reliable! Nowdays Japanese brands sucks! Too many issues and freaking rattles in new fking car!!!!!!! My 3.6vr6 atlas works perfect in winter and 0 issues 0 rattles 0 freaking annoying problem , don’t ever say Honda is reliable!
Honda❤❤❤