What is BLOW-BY in a Milwaukee 8 Engine - and WHY install the TRASK Performance CHECK-M8???
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Installing the Trask Performance is a MUST for the Harley Davidson Milwaukee 8 Engine. Especially If you are running a Stage 2 and UP. Make sure to Subscribe as I go through these Stage Builds. Blow-By, in time, will rob you of horsepower and shorten your Engine’s Life. Harley had to give up a lot when it came to tuners and venting the Engine out into the atmosphere due to EPA regulations and the Clean Air Act. Thankfully, there are aftermarket companies that have designed specialty parts that can mitigate this problem.
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Mate all the way from Tasmania here… your service videos and instructions are spot on, clear, fast with great info and awesome lighting and editing … thank you so much for taking the time and effort into making your videos the best around
That’s Awesome! Thank You. I’m also a better learner with pictures and videos. I definitely tried to cover everything. I really appreciate your positive feedback 👍🏽
I've watched so many videos over the last 3 months... NONE compare to what you're doing here. Subscribed, of course. Consuming all your vids now. Thanks for taking the time to do all of this amazing work. The editing is superior, super strong work. This is like a master class, except better. 🤘🤘👍☝☝
That’s awesome! Thank you for the Sub, and the kind words. I have a blast with these installs, and making these videos. I try to give as much information as possible.
Most informative and instructional and how to fix and products video for the m8 blow by problem I have seen so far and trust me there is a lot of them out there
Good job ole boy!!
That’s awesome to hear! Thank You. Sucks we need to make videos about this, hopefully Harley will eventually find a solution for this problem. Thank you again for the support 🤟🏽
A friend of mine that has the similar bikes that I have (18 RG Special FXR’s and T-Sports) He saw I purchased the vent from Trask and sent me this video never seen your channel but I am a subscriber now excellent video
That’s awesome! Thank you. It’s cool to hear that the word is getting out. I’ll keep these videos coming
Like the catch can addition. Excellent video man.
Thank You! Sometimes you have to improvise 🤘🏽
You have the best installation videos on You-Tube. I also have a 2020 Road Glide Special. Your videos are tremendously helpful. Thanks
That’s so COOL to hear! Thank you 🙏🏽
Hello Raider,
I first installed the Feuling Vented Dipstick. Then I ordered the Trask Transmission Cover. After a heavy installation on a 117 cui Fat Bob. The space is really tight. You fight for every screw!
When I was done, I backed off the Feuling Dipstick and put in the little cork valve. Let's see how both solutions work together.
Very good video, keep up the good work. Many greetings from Germany.
That’s awesome! I definitely want to run some tests on these to see how they perform. Especially before I start my stage 2 build. And Thank You for your Support! Many greetings to you as well
A couple things..i believe the biggest offender is the over positive pressure that is being shoved back into the top of the cylinders, not so much by piston ring but from the banjo bolts..a I noticed Trask finally address my concern (on the product you have) of reed valve cover screws coming loose, and fall in into tank or worse, blocking a port.. Because of that early issue, and the high cost, I made my own vent system on top of the trans cover for just a few dollars, however I would have to vote this product is the better solution over the dipstick vent systems (I'm not if favor of lowering the oil level to prevent oil leakage) ..and I can still use my temp dipstick in the meanwhile
Absolutely! Great info. I have a few follow up videos on the Trask and Vented dipstick. Thank you
Finally a video about this that's well done. Appreciate ya, brother
Thank You! I definitely appreciate the support
Like your videos, you do a great job explaining and visually showing your installs
Thank You! That definitely means a lot 🤟🏽
Great info.
Just installed mine a bit ago. Yes, patience is needed..wow, the removal process was a pain.
But it’s in, and hopefully this will help.
Thanks again as always.
Ride safe
Absolutely! Thank You for watching
Just got mine from Direct Cycle. I’ll have to go by feel as I don’t think my torque wrench will fit in there! 😂
Good vid bro, as always. 👍
Absolutely! Thank You 🙏🏽
Thanks for the video. I cannot believe you do not have more subs. You have a great approach and quality to your releases. Keep up the good work.
? - why did you decide to do the catch can instead of the provided filter?
Thanks again.
Absolutely! Thank You for the Support. Hopefully these Subs will grow faster, but it’s definitely a process.
I decided to do the catch can, so I could see how much actual oil was being pushed out.
some of the blow by is coming past the rings not the breathers.i run total seal
gas ported rings haven't had a problem since
Absolutely, that’s also a great option
I’m thinking about doing this. How much did it run you?
I also have the Trask Check m8..installed on my 17 SGS along with the DK customs catch can for the breather bolts. Happy with the results!
Great video!!
Absolutely! I’m happy with it so far. I haven’t opened the the catch-can yet, but I just might here soon
How often do you have to change the filters and clean out the catch can?
The M8 has been out since 2017 and still has these issues. It such a shame.
Your absolutely right. I get why Harley has to do it, and they got hit with a big fine for it. But they they should’ve came up with a solution by now.
M8 isn’t the only one. I have worked on twin cams that dump way more oil from the breather bolts. So much that it drips out of intake filter. It’s just the nature of this setup. EPA fucks shit up. Same way they are destroying diesel trucks with the DEF fluid and exhaust gas system. Fix one problem you inadvertently create another it seems.
I installed the Fueing oil pump, backing plate, their vented dipstick on my 114- inch build with the Woods Cycle Rame 483 cam, HD Ventilator Extreme air filter, and still had oil blowing out the pod filter with the Trask Check-Mate M8 transmission cover. I drilled two holes in the back of the Harley Ventilator air filter backing plate. I then ran two rubber hoses from each breather bolt and then to a DK Customs catch can. I called the Trask Tech department and was told that I would have to install a 2020 or 2222 Harley oil pump that has an oil seal on it and a Harley backing plate to prevent the oil blow-by. Trask told me that they had installed after-market oil pumps and backing plates without the oil seal on the oil pump and still had oil blow by. But, when they installed the later model Harley oil pump and backing plate they only got a light oil mist into the pod filter that attaches to the Trask Check-M8 cover. If I don't run the RPM's past 3,500 at each gear shift or cruise at 70 MPH for extended periods, I don't get oil blown out of the Trask pod filter, but if I ride at 75 mph for just 30 minutes I will blow out 1.5 ounces of oil. I broke my 114- engine in good too.
I believe Feuling just came out with that.
Sounds like you need to install the HD pump and plate. I have the 2020 and immediately installed the vented dipstick before I rode it for more than 500miles. When I decided to change breathers from that elite on he had to the ventilator I had very little residue. HD did a stage 3 install and I had very little carbon or glazing on heads/pistons. I’m still adding the trask cover but if you’re having those problems and already have means of lessening blow by installed then I’d follow trasks advice
@@ICEMANINVADER --For the price that I paid for the Fueling oil pump and Fueling backing plate plus the Harley labor cost to install both of them, I don't plan on paying the cost for the 2020 Harley oil pump and backing plate plus the HS labor cost all over again. I get the best gas mileage when I cruise at 70 mph on the highway and I don't lose any oil with the Trask vented transmission cover when I plugged the rubber line on it with a small bolt. I can pass slower traffic on the highway up to 90 mph for a short burst of speed and then slow back down to 70 mph and the oil level stays the same.
Probably a bit too late but as I understand it , the S&S pump and plate now has an accommodation for the stock Harley seal.
ruclips.net/video/duBPNCs_vTA/видео.html
The above video link from Moonshine Harley explains the differences.
Good luck and hope all goes well.
Sounds like JUNK!
Great vid. That said Trask is gouging customers with the outrageous price.
Thank You! And YES, you are absolutely right. It serves a great purpose, but the price is definitely up there.
Awesome video. Been putting a lot of thought to doing this. Curious to hear how it works for you. Take care.
Absolutely, and Thank You. I’m looking forward to it as well. It’s a shame we have to install something like this, but luckily we have these aftermarket companies doing great things
I've been running the excellent Trask M8 Checkvent Transmission Cover Plate to ventilate the bottom end (crankcase/flywheel) on my Harleys for more than a year now with excellent results. Prior to the Trask piece, was running a Fueling Billet Vented Oil Dipstick, which also worked fine. What I'm curious about is: in addition to the Trask piece, if I were to also ventilate the top end (breather bolts) into a catch can. I've not had any issues with oil in the air cleaner but am curious...can you ventilate both top & bottom ends or over-ventilate or ? Tom M. '21-RGS 114 & '22-FXLRS 117
That’s actually what I wanted to test out. I wanted to install this in steps, so I can see what is “overkill” in venting out the crankcase. Honestly, as long as you maintain a vacuum, I don’t see there being a problem. The biggest issue, is stoping the oil venting back into the intake
Any update to this comment? Just watched your most recent video on the El Dorado series with the Horsepower inc breather vent.
Are you running all three breathers on this bike? Dipstick, transmission & intake?
Do you think Harley would void the warranty if they saw that Trask cover? Or would they not care? The dipstick from fueling is easier to remove due to when you need to service your bike atleast for the 2 first years to maintain the factory warranty.
Honestly, it all depends on your dealership. I’ve really only seen my dealership have to void a warranty when you start customizing your engine or transmission with aftermarket performance parts or you begin to trick the ECM with aftermarket tuners
Thanks for that very clear video !
One question though :
If the point is to vent to even the pressure, why would you want to vent to a close-end catch can ?
Aren't you limiting the venting process ?
What quantity of oil mist did you get in your catch can ?
Thx M8 (pun intended)
Thank You. The Catch can vents through the top through a series of filters. I haven’t seen any mist on the top of the catch can. I’ve opened the catch can to check, and there is very minimal oil inside. I also have the vented dipstick from Feuling ruclips.net/video/XmWg5iFZgLI/видео.html
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Owk ok !
I missed that then.
Thank you very much :-)
hi, so if i install this cover and vent it to the dj customs catch can do you still recommend externally venting at the intake as an extra precaution probably to a filter element since i already have the catch can.
after both of those there would be no reason for the vented dipstick? as that would just be overkill. i already vented at the transmission cover and externally vented at the intake just to make sure any oil that still gets by doesn't go into the intake.
thanks!
That’s what I had to do in the end. I was still getting oil through the intake, so I added an external breather. Getting a vented dipstick or vented transmission top cover is still ok, but no need for both. Obviously, I would go with the cheaper option.
Another awesome tutorial!! You mentioned in the comments that you also added a vented dip stick? In your opinion do you need both or is have one sufficient? Thanks again
Thank You! I added both, because I feel you can never have to much venting. As long as it maintains a vacuum. You probably do not need both, but it all depends on how you ride too. I’m doing some longer rides here soon, so I’m looking forward to see how these perform. I’ll definitely be doing an update video on both of these. Hope this helps, and Thank You again.
I'm looking at doing this with my 21 SGS. How has this worked with your bike long term? I'm wondering if installing the catch can hinders the ability to actually vent and reduce pressure?
The catch can has vents on the top that allows it to vent.
@@RAIDERWORLD that's good to know. I appreciate the response. I think I'm going to go this route.
Even though blow by is now the same as sumping, would releasing the crank pressure help with reducing sumping?
In theory, it should help. Although, there are many other factors that come into play, like a poor a Harley oil pump, leaky seals, etc.
How often should you empty the catch can?
I’ve actually only had to empty it once so far. This is also because I’m running the Feuling BA Aircleaner
So this is what Blockhead was talking about in his $12 fix video. $350? What a rip.
$12 will not fix the issue if you have one. You get what you pay for. Is it over-priced? Absolutely 👍🏽
@@RAIDERWORLD not sure the pressure being vented cares if the path was made by 12 bucks or 350.
Excellent video. Subscribed after watching it. Now that we see Harley has stopped venting through the air cleaner bolts and copied Trask's vented trans lid, do you think the head breathers can be blocked off if using the Trask trans lid on the models with the vented breather bolts ?
I probably wouldn’t block them off, because you do want it to vent out and expel the used oil. If that makes sense
Great crystal clear tutorial video. Post to installation, how the bike performs? I am not looking for hp gain or anything but does it feel run better in a sense of before n after?
I honestly do not feel any difference in power or torque. But the engine does sound a lot better
Will this installation void the factory warranty?
If your Harley Dealership is by the book, maybe. This has nothing to do with the function of the transmission. It only allows the crankcase to vent. But you can easily take it off and reinstall your stock cover.
Patience is DEFINITELY a virtue on the bolts near the motor....what a PITA!!!! :D
It’s funny, because I actually had stubby Allen sockets that I forgot about. That would’ve made it a lot faster
@@RAIDERWORLD I know right....after I was done, I remembered I had one of those super small kits for hard to reach area's....after I used a normal allen wrench... :D
@@redrider0151 we only remember when the job is done and our finger are bleeding 🩸 🤣
@@RAIDERWORLD If we dont cut ourselves, did we really work on anything?? :-P
Hey man, I love this video, and I subscribed to your channel because of this video. However, I called 2 different Harley Dealerships in my area, and they both are not aware of any issues with blow by on the M8s'. I have the 2019 Fatbob 114 so idk if Harley fixed the issue or what?
That’s awesome! Thank you for Subscribing and supporting the channel. Oh man, they might have graduated from a school overseas. You’ve probably done your own research and figured out that this is a huge problem. For 2020 and up, they did upgrade the oil pump, but I have that, and it’s still an issue. Even with this top cover, I still got a bit of blow by. I did an update video here 👉🏽ruclips.net/video/Z9RgJqqUMkE/видео.html
Man I want to buy it, but I am absolutely fucking cringing at the price. I'm half tempted to just try and vent the stock trans cover; if it doesn't work, I'll only be out $15, and then will just go ahead and buy the Trask
For sure! The price is definitely up there. After installing the Feuling BA Air Cleaner, I would just go with that. ruclips.net/video/Z9RgJqqUMkE/видео.html
Now you’re just blowing that pressure into a sealed catch can… so the pressure isn’t actually going anywhere. I think the filter element would be a better idea than a catch can
The catch can has vents on the top for the air to escape. I prefer the catch can over a filter, because as the oil builds up, the outside elements/dirt doesn’t build up on it.
Okay, so I have a question. I have an external breather, and a vented dip stick from DK Customs. My question is, has anyone routed all these elements to a single catch can? I see issues unless there is a one way valve on the linkages between the hoses.
have you gotten any oil in the catch can? from what iv been told you never get any oil with the filter.
I sure did, I did an update video here ruclips.net/video/Z9RgJqqUMkE/видео.html
Hey mate, just bought this for my 2019 Fat Bob and about to install. Just wanted to know how it’s been working for you now that you’ve had some running time with it.
I’ve absolutely noticed the difference. I feel like the bike seems a lot happier with it, and I’ve noticed a lot less blow by around the intake
@@RAIDERWORLD Thanks for replying & that’s great to hear. I’ve checked the production date on my bike and it’s June 2019 which apparently was when they put in the 8 lobe oil pump, I’m just not sure if that has the seal.
@@rickanderson2359 absolutely! Yeah, I believe they didn’t start putting in the seals until 2020
Hi, great video. Why did you use a Catch Can from DK versus de filter that comes with Trask Checkm8?
Thank You! I definitely appreciate the support. I wanted to see exactly how much oil I was actually catching
Enjoy your videos. Do you have an update since you’ve been riding a while with the vent on? Thanks
Thank You! I do have an update coming soon, just have a few other videos in line first. Let’s just say, she runs better 👍🏽
Will it hurt your M8 motor by running both external breather mod and transmission vent?
In theory it shouldn’t. All your doing is venting the crankcase.
I want this. Where can I get all parts? Thank you.
I ordered this right off the Trask Performance website shop.traskperformance.com/products/check-m8-vented-trans-top-cover
Thanks!
Thank You! This definitely means a lot 🤟🏽🇺🇸
Love your videos man. Did you have to remove sensor from pipe or not really. Does this vent really helps?
Thank You! I definitely appreciate it. I did not have to remove the sensor. It does help “some”, but not as much as I hoped
@@RAIDERWORLD thanks for quick reply I was just watching bunch of your vids on HogWorks tourpack really neat I will need one of these no doubt. Hope they hold OK overtime and I was glad to hear they come preassembled
@@RidersUnited That’s awesome! I definitely appreciate the support
Did you buy the refresh kit for the catch can?
I don’t use a refresh kit in this one, but I did purchase one
Is it necessary to plumb crankcase ventilation back into the intake to provide a vacuum in the crankcase? Doesn't a negative pressure in the crankcase help prevent oil sumping? If that's true, will any other venting configuration (like the Trask cover or routing the OE vent bolts to atmosphere) provide the same benefits?
The only reason Harley has this venting back into the intake, is because of EPA regulations. I’m still running some tests on the Trask and Feuling Dipstick, but both of these systems maintain a vacuum.
quick question? I did not notice that you used a torque wrench, but, mentioned the tightening numbers, did you use a torque wrench to tighten down the bolts at the end? thanks
With this top cover, I did not. I just mentioned it for general knowledge.
Question. I used the fueling oil dip stick one, it works great, I ran the tube and canister up and BACK to the frame behind the tire and saddlebag. Have you had any misting of your canister where you located it up front there? I was wondering about the possible mess on the bike where it could be seen. SF
I haven’t had any issues, but the way you have should be fine too. I know most people were worried about it misting oil in front of the rear tire. How much oil we ride over on the highway, that’s the least of our concerns lol.
You shouldn't have had to do a God damned thing. How the hell is everyone just accepting this like it's no big deal? Fix the fucking blow by by MAKING THE RINGS SEAL!!!!
Hey just wanted to know a update hows the blow by on your bike with the trans cover?? Did it stop or just minimize it?? I orderded it too but wanna know if i should do the heavy breather kit from trask too
I did an update on this video here, where I installed the Feuling BA Air Cleaner. I remove the air cleaner after running the Trask top cover ruclips.net/video/Z9RgJqqUMkE/видео.htmlsi=ED9cVF_6Tb688oyG
Yo!! Great video. I wonder if installing this on my 2022 RGS with 131 will void my warranty.
I would definitely choose another dealership if they voided your warranty for this haha. It’s just a too cover that allows the crankcase to vent properly 👍🏽
He makes the best videos !
@@DeterminedVeteran I know. Agreed.
Well put.
Thank You!
Great video
Thank You!
Come on man. Cut those zip ties flush. Ha. Nice video bud.
Gotta love it! Thank You 🤟🏽🇺🇸
Which is better, fueling dipstick or this??
It’s hard to say, because I’ve been running both of them together. Either option would work by itself though.
Have my 21 FLHRXS stock just with slip ons. Would make a difference installing this trask vent. ? Recommend having a tuner aswell for it?
It all depends how you ride. If you just like cruising, there’s no need. But I would suggest getting a tune anytime you upgrade exhaust or intake
Any info on whether there would be any conflict when already running a vented dipstick or is the more venting the better? Thanks for the video.
I also installed a vented dipstick, video will come out soon. And no, there’s no problem with running two, as long as your dipstick still maintains a vacuum.
@@RAIDERWORLD I have the one from A1 Cycles, it's not a one way vent. Just open vented to a filter. Would it need to be a one way?
@@johnburk5748 I’ll have to look more into the A1-Cycles venting configuration. You definitely want it to be a one way vent. There’s mixed views on that, so this is just my personal opinion.
I know this is out of subject here. Will you be at Daytona bike week?
Man! I wish. Im currently traveling. I’ll definitely be at Sturgis this year tho
Excellent video... :-)
Thank You! I really appreciate it 🤟🏽🇺🇸
How often do you think you will have to check the catch can?
I would just check it during regular service intervals
Maybe I’m old school but why did you reuse that gasket on the trans vent cover?? That’s a huge no!!
I didn’t use the old gasket. The Trask comes with a new gasket already installed. You have to remove it in order to install the stock vent tube. Then you reinstall the Trask Gasket. Absolutely! Never reuse old gaskets
Please put a pressure gauge on that hose and show us all this extreme pressure you claim to fix with your transmission cover ….
The words I used were (Excess Pressure) but maybe I will do a video on that.
Did this work?
Still testing it out, probably too soon to know.
Great video great minds think alike lol
Absolutely! You know it. Still blows my mind that with only 500mi, your pistons and cylinders looked like that. I’m gonna open mine up and take a look now lol.
Still laughing at that $12 venting solution. Poor Souls who listened to that advise
@@RAIDERWORLD I dunno...I think they were trying to show that ANYONE can vent the thing better than Harley. It isnt much different than the breather kit from Trask that is 150 bucks. For those on a serious budget, their solution is WAY better than nothing at all....IMHO... I also see guys that vent the dipstick themselves and some actually drilling into the case just below the dipstick as well (and running a vent tube) because they cant bring themselves to spend 100's of dollars on something so simple that should have already been there by Harley.
Have you seen much oil in the catch can since you installed? I just got a track CheckM8 and was wondering if excess oil out that filter it comes with would leak?
I haven’t seen any excess oil around the cap of the can, but I will be doing a maintenance soon. So I’ll give an update
@@RAIDERWORLD I'm leaning towards the Check M8. I would be very interested to see how your breather bolts look. I'm wondering if this or the DK Transformer would be better for me. You do killer vids and I appreciate you. Heep up the good work.
@@carlphillips9610 Thank You! I’m looking forward to it too. I’ve been holding off, because I have a few new goodies coming in from Feuling. I haven’t seen anything around the filter and intake tube as far as oil, so that a good sign. I’ll definitely do an update here soon
Do you still need to install the dkcustoms external breather kit if you have the trask trans cover??
I theory, you shouldn’t “Right”. The Trask top cover should allow all the venting necessary that it does not vent out the breather bolts. I’m testing this out in steps to see if I’ll have to install an external breather kit. Either way, there’s nothing saying that you just install one anyway
Trask cover installed it was a bitch tightening/loosening the front, I did install the dk breather and put the catch can where you did in this video and the trask breather I put up in the side panel. You make great videos I’ve also installed the thrashin supply floorboards from another one of your videos. Not bad for a mailman👍🏼
@@highlytrainedunprofessiona3699 That’s Awesome! Yeah, the front screws were not fun. I actually had stubby sockets and completely forgot about them.
@@RAIDERWORLD so if I am correct and install everything you did in this video then I shouldn’t have to do anything to the breather bolts or intake?
@@radeaver In Theory you shouldn’t. As of now, with these 2 products, I haven’t had any issues with blowby
Are those hog works extended side covers
They sure are! 👉🏽 Stretched Side Covers for Harley Touring Bikes from HogWorkz
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I have this and I also have the Trask Assault A/C with the block off plate. I also have a DK Customs catch can on my 2018 M8 LTD (124ci). I have to check the catch can off the A/C to see if its getting any blow-by still but the bike DOES NOT appear to be sumping as the primary fluid level is right on. However, I have gotten 2 rags full of tranny fluid coming out of the Trask Transmission vent cover over my last 300-500 miles of riding. I wrap a micro fiber rag around the filter element to keep any leaking to a minimum in the ABS area under my side cover.
While this cover seems to (or should) help release pressure, it also seems to be doing so by taking some tranny fluid with it. Is that normal? And if so, should we just lower the tranny fluid level slightly to reduce that?
I haven’t had this issue with mine yet. I’ll be doing another service here soon, so I’m curious to see the intake and inside the catch can. I wouldn’t lower your fluid levels. Do you do a lot of tight turns where you have to lean the bike a lot?
@@RAIDERWORLD - Figured out it wasnt tranny fluid, its oil. And Trasks site has a service note on the cover where if your bike is missing the internal seal against the HD oil pump (which my bike certainly is as I have Fueling CAM plate, oil pump) then its possible to get oil coming out of the Trask Check M8 filter.
Not taking this thing apart again to address that so will try removing a small amount more oil and changing the filter to a catch can and see if things improve. The catch can I have on the breather works great, checked the other day and no oil, just a little water (1/8” or so in the can).
@@bane1240 Absolutely! It’s all about doing some trouble shooting. I know the 2020’s and up have those seals now on the pump. I’ll be doing a Race Series CAM-CHEST install from Feuling here soon, they did start adding those seals as well.
@@RAIDERWORLD thats what I have but it was from 2021. Not sure its there or not but what’s happening on the bike makes me think its not. 🙄
But, maybe this will be it and I can ride worry free. One things for sure, the bike is a BEAST! 😊
@raider world - Update: Having my wrench install part #62400205 (HD Oil pump seal) on my Fueling Oil pump (my pump has the recessed area for this seal) in hopes this will cut down on the amount of oil coming out of this breather line. Should be done in next week or 2. I also installed a heavy duty (300 ml) catch can under the passenger foot rest to help with the mess. The DKCustoms can was not large enough to handle the pressure or amount of oil getting pulled through the line and that has helped big time. No more mess but... still more oil coming out than I am comfortable with and don't like having to run the bike 2/3rds of a quart or so low to reduce it. Hopefully this seal will allow for me to run the bike closer to full and be ok. Ride safe!
if I already have a breather bypass installed do i still need to install this and the vented dipstick?
I think you’re good with just the Breather MOD or Bypass.
Blow by isn't actually what the Harley community thinks it is. Blow-by is a very specific condition when the piston rings, cylinder walls or both are worn down enough that a much larger than normal amount of the exhaust gas from combustion leaks past the rings and into the crank case. That's what blow by actually is.
The problem these bikes have isn't really blow-by, it's just a normal function of a PCV system. (Positive Crankcase ventilation) however, Harleys, but especially the M8's have way, way WAY too much oil mist coming out of the PCV system and back into the intake.
Absolutely, they have to vent somehow. And not every M8 is dealing with these extreme issues.
What does the Harley community think it is?
"Blow by" pretty self explanatory.
When a dozer has 20,000 hours on it, the blowby is getting bad, you do the logical thing & put new rings/hone, or a rebore, or re sleeve.
You damn sure don't ignore the problem
& start plugging vents in everywhere..
HD is fuckin crazy
Damn that middle bolt up against the fins was a bitch to remove!
Right! You definitely get some knuckle busters in there
@@RAIDERWORLD fun cuts would be more accurate 😃
@@RealRonTV hahaha right
Do I need that if I have external head breather already on my bike
If you have at least one of the 3 venting solutions, you should be Good-To-Go 👍🏽
@@RAIDERWORLD thank you very much
Wild....... They won't ship this to California!
Man! I hate that law. When I lived in Cali, I would just have things shipped to a friends house outside of Cali, then have them ship it to me. I’ll never understand this California non-compliant law deal. Especially when you have chemical plants all along the coast lol
@@RAIDERWORLD What makes it worse is I live in Texas. I've been working the fire clean ups for the last 3 years out here and barely go home.
@@joshroberts6934 man! I definitely appreciate the service you do out there
@RAIDER WORLD I Grew up out here So the state has a place in my heart, just not the way its run. I watch a ton of videos and yours are definitely the most in depth and easy to follow. 🤙🏻
Way better install than having to do a catch can from the breather bolts to a T fitting
Absolutely! Keeps it clean
@@RAIDERWORLD 👍👍
350 dollars is a little steep for what it is
Yeah, I definitely agree. Hopefully they make this a little more affordable
@@RAIDERWORLD at 150, it would be more reasonable
Do you have a discount code???
I wish! I’ve actually tried emailing them a few times with no response. And this was before Daytona. When I do my 500-1k review, I’ll make sure to mention that. I’ve heard costumer service is not top-notch, just had to experience it myself 🤟🏽
Let us know. How it works
Absolutely! You see a lot of install videos, but never know it it actually worked. I will for sure keep you updated
I would like to install the Trask cover on my new ultra limited, BUT.. when I mentioned doing this to the techs at the dealership they warned me that it could void the warranty.
I have heard someone will have to bear the burden of proof when blaming this installed part to some kind of failure (whatever that may be) when voiding the warranty during a breakdown, but is it reasonable that Harley would simply void the warranty if they saw this part on my bike?
I also saw another video that was routing the vented bolts into the same cavity that the reed valve covers on the Trask cover. Outside of the venting process this seems like a way to allow the oil to return to the sump if the venting of excess pressure could include some kind of separation of the oil from the vented gas to eliminate a regular maintenance of filters or catch cans. Is this possible and has anyone approached this idea?
I think Harley is still trying to figure that out. Because that top cover has nothing to do with how the transmission functions. It’s just a vent. Something they just forgot to add themselves. Warranty is always a huge concern, but I feel, depending how you ride, that your engine will be toast after that warranty is up. It’s better to catch these things early. But like I said, this is just my opinion.
Use the A1 oil cap. Removes in seconds, for warranty work.
$400 for that thing? what the fuck lol
Haha! Right. It’s definitely up there.
And when you’re all done, you’re all EPA compliant again…. Good little law abiding biker.
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You know I used to wonder why people would say harley is junk and should be fixed in house for a quality product. Epa cali my ass
Just an excuse for shitty craftsman ship. AMF Did abetter job then today's m8 junk
AMF still owns harley ,I wanna ride not wrench
Wrenching is half the fun 👍🏽
@RAIDERWORLD that's your excuse for having to spend money on a new bike just to make it run semi-correctly.
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Thank You 🤟🏽
@@RAIDERWORLD that would look sweet on my 21 street glide ✊🏼
Well the topic is great and all, and some decent info here, I just find it a little tacky that you stole about half your video clips from other content creators.... specifically Kevin Baxter from ProTwin Performance..
You obviously didn’t catch the video mentions, but thanks for watching anyway 👍🏽
@RAIDER WORLD yeah, I did. Doesn't really make up for all the actual work others had to do to make that content in the first place.
I’m sorry all these videos do is make me want to sell my Harley everything is so expensive And you can never get it back
Definitely understandable.
They're not for everyone. Sell it. Love all my Harley's. Yeah, they're expensive, but it is what it is
I cringe every time I see non flush zip ties cuts. Buy yourself a decent flush cut zip tie cutters. You’ll thank yourself later.
Send me some, and I’ll use them 👈🏽
so will your bleeding hands,
That fact that Harley has problems with some of their engines they know the problems exist but still charges a premium for their motorcycles then passes the buck on to the customers to fix the problem. That’s a shitty business practice in my opinion.
Absolutely. Unfortunately, this is a corporate issue. If you’ve always been a die-hard Harley owner, it’s hard to change to a different company. And Harley knows this.
See Blockheads channel for a $12 fix and save yourself some money
I’d rather not take the risk of those screws in the breather backing out or deteriorating and getting sucked through the intake. I’ll spend the extra money for a quality part and peace of mind 👍🏽
Dont buy a harley
Or do 👍🏽
I feel bad because my dad really likes his bike, buy HOLY SHIT WHAT A PIECE OF GARBAGE!
Yeah, some times it happens. Some need more love than others