@@Azarthes I agree, I know a lot of these players (at least the former casters and stuff) knew what was going on, or had a vague idea as it seems. I know plat chat had mentioned a few times that they had to be careful to not leak anything. But yeah, especially someone like Hawk, who *may* keep playing, but you never really know. It's a good springboard for them if they decide not to go back to professional play anyway
Hawk was very unengaged in this. SVB was trying to get some input and it felt like Hawk was not paying attention at all. I enjoyed the other more because the coaches were paying attention and commenting without prompting.
As a D.va OTP, OW 2 has been hard. Reach out to your fellow D.va mains, we need help. Now I just play monkey and wait for all the counter swaps, because I can stomp them with dva 😅
As a Zarya OTP, former t500 Europe and NA in OW1, with godlike tracking (I used to 1v1 Spree and beat him 90% of the time) Dva feels like cheating when I play her and I always get called out. I really was the Geguri of NA
This was great! As these come I feel SVB has become a much better player overall. But now I realised I'm not gonna learn Dva. Im also grinding Doomfist and Im a bit past the "Samito tips" (currently low gm) and I would love a Hawk Doomfist coach session since he was considered the best western pro doom.
I remember in the first couple weeks of OW2's release they nerfed DVA even though she wasn't even good, while Zarya was melting people and Hog was running wild. That's when I realized the devs just aren't comfortable enabling dva because i guess dva doing well means youre getting deleted to crit hitscans to the face. She's ended up as the Widow of tanks, where the concern is stopping her from ruining peoples fun rather than actually making her good. She'll never be viable as long as this is her balance approach, and i dont think it will change unless they completely re-design her so she's not starving if she's not deleting people.
All I'm hearing is the coach blaming your teammates or map but not on anything you can work on. The only person you can work on is yourself and a coach's job is to bring that out. All I'm hearing is excuses and barely any input. I hope the next coach will be better for you.
I’m a top 500 dva and I miss they way I used to actually play moving into 5v5 from 6v6 you gotta do a lot more just to get counter swapped by 5 people I understand if not alot of people are able to play dva or having a hard time but it’s better when you get better
22:12 wow if this were my game Zarya would immediately get 80 energy and her hp would never drop below half. Also, sojourn would probably kill one of my squishies. I would be doing the exact thing he is doing here: playing the corner and shooting Zarya…. But I would just get melted and my team would fall apart because they charged her.
Any reasoning for doing live coaching instead of vod review? I feel myself after coaching for a wile and talking to many tier coaches (open division mostly) that vod reviewing is better to take in the information and learn it. Learn the general principle of the character and theyr winconditions. Explaining more thurely what power positions are on dva etc. Ofc im not complaining but just suggesting:). Love hearing from pro players and getting theyr insigth into how they master the art of overwatch
@neodaltiair8624 DVA's major strengths are diving isolated targets and contesting high ground. Not to mention the ability to completely negate certain types of damage. I only find her playstyle to be super hampered on long sightlines and against a double beam weapon comp.
Watch awkards videos. Its easy to get out of gold and plat even with trash teammates. The hard part is you cant blame them even if they suck. Overwatch works like that which is dumb. You just focus on your own gameplay and staying alive is very important. Dont risk dying for a little bit extra damage
by getting better. leavers bots and trash players are in every rank. focus on what you can do better, and you will carry more. elo hell is not real. you are suffering from a skill issue.
SVB, my man. I love your passion for the game and learning the nitty gritty of how to play the game (strategy/tactics/thinking), but 2 hours?? Its incredibly difficult to justify watching the whole thing. Is there anyway to make a sister video that takes some of the best "lessons" of this coaching session that would disseminate this information to more people by making it more accessible? Honestly I'm going to watch some of this but there is no way I'm going to watch the whole thing and its a shame because I know I'm going to miss out on a lot of knowledge. Just an idea. Anyway, really do enjoy your analytics and general thinking.
someone above already said that, but thanks. but yeah, i know it isn't for me, its also not for alot of people, just too much time. i'm arguing that more people would benefit from a condensed video, which... is coming, soo all good@@Xithz
its genuinely so nice to see the ow content creators take the owl players under their wings and try to give them a career after the owl has died
I guess you missed the announcement yesterday ahaha
@@YazzPott oh i saw it, doesn't change the appreciation i have for what ive seen during the points where we didnt know what was going to happen
@@Azarthes I agree, I know a lot of these players (at least the former casters and stuff) knew what was going on, or had a vague idea as it seems. I know plat chat had mentioned a few times that they had to be careful to not leak anything.
But yeah, especially someone like Hawk, who *may* keep playing, but you never really know. It's a good springboard for them if they decide not to go back to professional play anyway
Hawk was very unengaged in this. SVB was trying to get some input and it felt like Hawk was not paying attention at all. I enjoyed the other more because the coaches were paying attention and commenting without prompting.
Yeah I felt that too. I was so happy, when I saw the 2h vid, but I stopped watching after the lijang game somewhere at the 1h mark
Hell yeah. Hawk has been great for years, enjoyed listening to him.
This video is a fat W, I’ve always wondered how to play DVa at a high level this helps a bit for sure
SVB, this series is awesome. I watch a LOT of OW content and this series has
definitely helped me improve.
As a D.va OTP, OW 2 has been hard. Reach out to your fellow D.va mains, we need help.
Now I just play monkey and wait for all the counter swaps, because I can stomp them with dva 😅
as a monkey OTP, i hate d.va
As a Ram OTP, I love going against D.va and Monkey
As a Zarya OTP, former t500 Europe and NA in
OW1, with godlike tracking (I used to 1v1 Spree and beat him 90% of the time) Dva feels like cheating when I play her and I always get called out. I really was the Geguri of NA
What the fuck is an OTP
@yesx5197 one trick pony. basically I'm a Masters 1 Tank player, but I can only play Ramattra at a Masters level type shit
Man, im excited to binge this tonight. Always excited when a new "I'm Grandmaster, but this ____ coaching...." drops 😍😍
34:10 That was the wildest play ever 😂
This was great! As these come I feel SVB has become a much better player overall. But now I realised I'm not gonna learn Dva. Im also grinding Doomfist and Im a bit past the "Samito tips" (currently low gm) and I would love a Hawk Doomfist coach session since he was considered the best western pro doom.
I remember in the first couple weeks of OW2's release they nerfed DVA even though she wasn't even good, while Zarya was melting people and Hog was running wild. That's when I realized the devs just aren't comfortable enabling dva because i guess dva doing well means youre getting deleted to crit hitscans to the face. She's ended up as the Widow of tanks, where the concern is stopping her from ruining peoples fun rather than actually making her good. She'll never be viable as long as this is her balance approach, and i dont think it will change unless they completely re-design her so she's not starving if she's not deleting people.
All I'm hearing is the coach blaming your teammates or map but not on anything you can work on. The only person you can work on is yourself and a coach's job is to bring that out. All I'm hearing is excuses and barely any input. I hope the next coach will be better for you.
It’s the reality of playing dva. Her ultimate is shit and she can’t force plays.
I’m a top 500 dva and I miss they way I used to actually play moving into 5v5 from 6v6 you gotta do a lot more just to get counter swapped by 5 people I understand if not alot of people are able to play dva or having a hard time but it’s better when you get better
22:12 wow if this were my game Zarya would immediately get 80 energy and her hp would never drop below half. Also, sojourn would probably kill one of my squishies. I would be doing the exact thing he is doing here: playing the corner and shooting Zarya…. But I would just get melted and my team would fall apart because they charged her.
This looks so miserable 😢
Any reasoning for doing live coaching instead of vod review? I feel myself after coaching for a wile and talking to many tier coaches (open division mostly) that vod reviewing is better to take in the information and learn it. Learn the general principle of the character and theyr winconditions. Explaining more thurely what power positions are on dva etc. Ofc im not complaining but just suggesting:). Love hearing from pro players and getting theyr insigth into how they master the art of overwatch
I only have 850 hours on her but I feel so relieved to hear hawk talk about her.
That's alot of hours
that's over a real life month of active playtime on one hero. 1/12th of a year. that is not "only" in any sense of the imagination.
Why did he kill himself at 28:00
great video SVB
I'm trying to find content that hawk does? Does he stream? I found his Twitter and twitch but i can't find much
Oh goodie :) love your videos keep up the good work ;)
Are you queuing in EU? Cause I feel like I played against or with you the other day
Do Wrecking Ball next
What happened to nano on Dva at 1:42:20 ? It was like 2 seconds or am I stupid?
it was from echo and her ult ended in 1 second or something
Dva just doesn’t quite fit in 5v5 honestly
I'm a masters tank player, and I have a 60% winrate on DVA this season. I think she fits just fine.
It’s not about winning, this gameplay is basically just try to farm damage for your support ult. Is that really engaging?
@neodaltiair8624 DVA's major strengths are diving isolated targets and contesting high ground. Not to mention the ability to completely negate certain types of damage. I only find her playstyle to be super hampered on long sightlines and against a double beam weapon comp.
Wait who does SVB main?
how can you rank up when you get paired with leavers, bots and trash co players? i am stuck between silver and gold and plat in open queue
Watch awkards videos. Its easy to get out of gold and plat even with trash teammates. The hard part is you cant blame them even if they suck. Overwatch works like that which is dumb. You just focus on your own gameplay and staying alive is very important. Dont risk dying for a little bit extra damage
by getting better. leavers bots and trash players are in every rank. focus on what you can do better, and you will carry more. elo hell is not real. you are suffering from a skill issue.
@@parkyercarcass nah i am pretty amazing. I am built different. Its all the others fault 110%.
@@Alda1981 110% loops back around to 90% on you my doggie
@@parkyercarcass dude what....? Where did you study?
SVB, my man. I love your passion for the game and learning the nitty gritty of how to play the game (strategy/tactics/thinking), but 2 hours?? Its incredibly difficult to justify watching the whole thing. Is there anyway to make a sister video that takes some of the best "lessons" of this coaching session that would disseminate this information to more people by making it more accessible? Honestly I'm going to watch some of this but there is no way I'm going to watch the whole thing and its a shame because I know I'm going to miss out on a lot of knowledge. Just an idea. Anyway, really do enjoy your analytics and general thinking.
Would love a more shortened video as well, as well the longer video
Awesome, i'll look for out for it, thank you!@@rickmich18
If you don’t watch the whole thing that’s a choice. I personally will watch it in its entirety.
FYI this will most likely become a 10-20 minute video about diva on his main page. This video isn’t for you my man ❤
someone above already said that, but thanks. but yeah, i know it isn't for me, its also not for alot of people, just too much time. i'm arguing that more people would benefit from a condensed video, which... is coming, soo all good@@Xithz
not wanna blame but if you´re gm i should be t500
The fact you’re not even GM and talking is hella sad