Then the world goes back into whatever was happening during the cataclysm (or worse) then the traveler saves the world from destruction and gets paid with 60 primos
@@kesiylove8042 well, Genshin is getting competitors by the end of this year, so probably we will get hundreds if not thousands Primogems for quests and events... It is good for us, competition is always good for consumers :)
Example supporting how Paimon manipulates us to make sure we "follow the script", the weird blurring effect as Paimon's calls out to us after seeing our sibling in the "We Will Be Reunited" quest, also her sudden urge to get the fuck out of there, reminding us that we need to help the people there, now that we've been somewhat reassured about our sibling. Paimon is making sure we don't disregard helping the people after seeing our sister. One other thing I found weird is that our sibling ignores Paimon's presence in the "We Will Be Reunited Quest", although I'm more thinking it doesn't matter, it's just a detail I'd like to point out.
Perhaps the abyss sibling knows that we’re following a script and doesn’t acknowledge piamontés cuz they know what she’s there for, but then, why didn’t the try to save us? Do they want us to follow the script or do they just leave us be so we learn how this world truly works? Is this part of a bigger plan??
@@fabiolazamudio3584 maybe they (abyss) just don't want the celestia to get involved too soon and are deliberately following their script while doing things behind their back (in the abyss).
@@HenSt-gz7qj Now that I think about it...we aren't attack by Celestia eventhough we read that forbidden book from Enkanomiya, we knew many secrets but celestia isn't moving its kinda make sense now...Celestia giving us plot armor to finish the script
4:44 the reason why Ei was out of the timeline that time was due to the fact that when Makoto was dying she collected her consciousness and put it into something like the plane of euthymia (the domain in the 2nd story quest of Raiden Shogun)
Ouh this is make sense because from the story quest the place like plane of euthymia exist like OUTSIDE THE TIME itself therefore if there's changes in the original timeline, Ei & Makoto still same.
It is also possible that the archons are not affected by that overwriting of the timeline and even more so that Ei at that time became an archon, it would also explain why so much secrecy with Celestia and why the documents about Khaenri'a were erased , It would even make more sense to what Scara said that the sky is false even though he has part of the archon powers.
You know, besides paimon, I think there is one other force controlling our script: The Adventures Guild. If you think about it, they have directed us to a lot of places where we need to go for the script, not to mention being one of our sources of materials for the journey. Sort of like a costume department. It would explain how they could give pure wishes, and how they can literally manipulate the world. If domains are outside of the timeline, like the plane of Euthymia is, the adventures guild would get either you, or both you and your brother out of the timeline so it can be adjusted. So perhaps this isn't all one take, rather a splice of multiple clips. The comparison between Teleporter way-points and the way the abyss travels is made when me meet Dainsleth in the chasm. He also admits that the abyss can control the end destination, so perhaps our waypoints are controlled by the first ones? Also, it would explain how the adventures guild has pure refined wishes from primos (something only done by Paimon), as well as why they send us to the same domain for world level increases. It's a way to get us out of the timeline so that it can be changed. Just some food for thought.
bro thats big brain theory bruh- the way they send us to the same domain to 'clear it' when were actually just being directed out the timeline for the world level increases
@Blue Fire but the theory here says that we are following an act and Paimon is making sure that we are following it correctly thus the "How about we explore the area ahead of us later"... Yeah it's obvious that the area isn't out yet but it's still a sign of this theory being true
@Blue Fire Still, there could be other ways of not letting the traveller pass (just blocking with an invisible/grid wall, showing a warning window, etc)
@@applebits8324 lol, if that so, why not just make a walled path where the traveller just follow it in straight line, and put signs that say "your sibling is straight ahead, just walk along this narrow walled path"
i remember climbing in The Chasm Underground, and Paimon just said "There's nothing here, we should go back" instead of other out of bounds dialogue when trying to go to the map border in tevyat, and without getting teleported back, but instead i found an invisible wall when climbing and cannot climb further
@Blue FireI believe it to be true, the gods could've plenty other ways to stop you from going to uncharted territory or land that hasn't been discovered. Genshin Impact is turning into one of the craziest games I have ever played, this lore is so deep, I makes me think that it's a anime TV show and we are about to go into Season 4 with the Dendro Archon
Act: ??? - Khaenri’ah The Dream yet to be dreamed And here we are wondering why the act number is blurred out? Why not act 7? Is it because we are going back to past? Or is it because it’s a part where the gaze of the gods cannot set upon. Which is not included in the script
that's really interesting. this means that theres a possibility the next archon quest after snezhnaya might not be khaenriah, i cant wait to see the story unfold
@@acherthecat8316 I have a theory that maybe it's bc we're in the Teyvat chapter and Khaenri'ah doesn't have an act no. (yet) cos it's not part of Teyvat
@@joehanz9217 Bro I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this! Zanarkand reference is written all over this story line hands down. I also feel like FFx13 pt 2 was written into here aswell, it's way to similar for it to be a coincidence.
This is such a big brain theory. One thing that just popped up in my head after watching the Loki show is, if you want to keep new time branches from going out of control, you weave your time travel actions right before an apocalypse. So if the gods did go back in time and do the initial attack in the new timeline, following it up with the cataclysm makes perfect sense, even though technically in this new timeline Khaenriah hadn't done anything yet to deserve it. And this justifies the Abyss sibling's anger towards the gods, because to them the gods wiped out Khaenriah for minimal transgressions.
what if both travellers are being used by the gods to fix both problems? i mean. 1)unify timelines withour cataclyism(the Aether part) and 2), try to restore khaenria civilization so they expel the abyss power once and for all (the lumine part). Remember the 2.6 event? when the abyss herald wants to "purge the darkness" from every khaenria civilian? and Dain says its too dangerous. But MAYBE they want to be humans once more, but they cant because they are cursed, and thats the Lumine quest, is to uncurse them. (but she does it meanwhile Aether is doing the "main quest").
@@rosiaiee5887 problem is, I think there's some missing link (plot hole) that has yet to be known. The travelers were "world traveler", they travel between worlds. That's where the opening to the game comes into. But then... how did they got involved with Khaenri'ah? why is the other sibling is "asleep" while the other is building Khaenri'ah? and how did the traveler ends up on the beach and met Paimon? He/She said that they've traveled for years in search of their sibling before meeting Paimon... (if they've traveled for years, why is he/she still at level 1?) its like, all those events are either happening in different time or even timeline/universe... or they are completely different reality altogether that got put together, thus creating the chaotic reality?
this makes perfect sense bcuz Zhongli tells us in his story quest when we ask about Khaenri'ah, that his contract to keep his mouth shut about the events of the Cataclysm happened BEFORE the events of the destruction of Khaenri'ah. The Primordial one could have made a contract with him that he is not allowed to tell us or anyone what happened 500 years ago, for the sake of the script that we are to play out in the form of a journey. Cuz if we were aware of the meaning of our journey, the God's attempts to rewrite time could fuck up.
If the traveller really was set up, then imagine what would happen when he/she realizes this. Will there be a plot twist where the abyss sibling will need to calm down the traveller that got angry after realizing all of the stuff he/she went through was set up by celestia?
Wouldn't it be cool if we were actually the primordial one at the beginning of the game where we choose our twin? Basically like saying "I choose this twin for timeline 2" and then the heavenly principle be like "ok" then proceeds to cube the twin that we later on play as.
This whole theory makes a LOT of sence, Specially the "we're supposed to follow a script" part. This part of the theory can be solidified by how the stories chapters are labled, noticed how in game they are labled as acts, this fits in because stage plays most usually refer to their chapters as acts.
@@indighost747 that does not justify anything though? Even if it has its own law, you can't just say that a character went out of a timeline because it is the law that made it that way
@@BaoNguyen-vy2wo Nah, I totally get what you’re saying I don’t really get it either. Typically whenever nothing makes sense people just quote the loading screen as a joke so I did too. But yeah it doesn’t make much sense to me either at the moment
the attention and foreshadowing and world building in Genshin is insane. I never questioned why the teyvat trailer introduced the regions in acts as if using a script. Can't wait to see how the story unfolds.
It honestly makes sense, especially with Paimon watching over the traveller, since she’s our “subtle guide” by saying stuff like “traveller, let’s go over there!” with any real reason, and something dramatic happens-
When we met Signora in Liyue, Paimon stopped us to fight her because she's "too strong", yet in Inazuma, when we confront her again, Paimon does nothing and we actually won against her
I think because getting powers from each statue of the seven in each region boosts traveler's power by much so we annihilated her then balls🏀 overcooked her
This whole “following a script idea” and how the story chapters are labeled as “Acts” got me thinking about how every single harbinger is named after comedia dell’arte personalities- originating from an early form of italian theatre. Now it makes a bit more sense and ads a lot more depth to them in this story.
you see, I guess hoyo hinted us that tsaritsa knew what gods in celestia did so they named their harbinger after comedian as a joke ass to celestia, to mock them by steal their keys, which is gnosis
Also how the latest golden apple archipelago event wuth the acting ravens, theres a book in sumeru called 'the shepard and the xx' (forgot) where the spirit calls the humans 'ravens'
I have a Theory:what if the start of the game is actually the end when the MC found his sibling and they were about to live this world but maybe the sustainer of heavenly principles has been used by the "God of time" as a specific event to be able to make them reverse time over and over again, that's why it seems like the "bad" twin has already traveled through this world because maybe he remember somehow while the other twin doesn't remember anything except the fight with the sustainer (I accept any proof for that theory to be impossible or possible )
My take is this, both siblings got captured, first the sister then the traveler, sister wondered teyvat first and tried to get back to her brother during her exploration catalism happened and teyvat got destroyed (apocalypse) as explained in this video "first timeline" then the sister finished her "journey" and reached to the celestia god and asked to get her brother back, but the celestia already had the plan in mind (second timeline), and everything has to happen in a correct order so both timeline can to merge together, so celestia saw the potential of using her brother (traveler) to follow same steps as her sister (looking for her sibling) and told the sister the only way she can get her brother back is to save teyvat, and that means that first her brother should follow the same journey she did and for doing that paimon was selected to be the travelers guide to be our companion, and it's paimon that tells us "it's good time to visit ...." "....told us to meat him at...." ".....is probably waiting for us let's go" paimon always pushes us to do quests in correct time when we are exploring, paimon also keeps us away from the "unlocked" areas, so that the travelers doesn't leave the correct path or take a step earlier than the other, paimon also speaks on travelers behalf, paimon knows what exactly should be said and she the one doing the talking bcuz she must not let the unpredictable happen, bcuz then it can effect the future and then both timelines won't be able to merge, also celestia told the sister to side with the abyss in (second timeline) so she keeps everything on check in their side, that's why she's asking him to complete his journey bcuz only then they can be together again, but now they both has to do their rule first, and if the sister tells us the truth, we are not going to take that journey, so she has to hide it from the traveler and stay away from him so he completes the journey and creates a replica of the first timeline but this one will not be apocalyptic
@@Defi4nc3s1 when you realize the current story in genshin is called "Chapter Teyvat" after the twins meet up, there might be a few more chapters to go until the game ends
@@Derek-bq4fx It's called Teyvat for a reason, because we have to understand the whole world's logic. Afterwards, yes could be additional chapters but who knows when we will reach celestia in the first place - if we ever will... They could twist it that we never reach out to it and confront the other twin much sooner.
I think genshin impact will always be underrated despite the fact that its famous. There's so much hidden interesting lore in the game. Even the npc whom we never have to interact with has a unique story. Books found all over teyvat have so many secrets and story which we can't understand at the moment. I feel like even if you finish the archon quests and all, its impossible to unlock every secret there is in genshin. Even if you think that the story is lacking or something, theres so much effort and thought that was put into them and we just don't know about it
honestly same, people are mostly just talking about "uwu waifu impact uwu husbandos owo abyss meta how one shot here is my damage per screenshot build" but genshin is still an RPG game, the lore is still important and I think mihoyoverse has done an amazing job with the lore compared to other gacha games which are just cashgrabs. i know genshin is also a cashgrab, but at least there is still effort put in to the lore and details of the characters and worldbuilding.
The problem is most people don‘t want to read walls of text, it would be more fun and intriguing to have more variety in how you uncover hidden lore like finding secret quests that you can only unlock by following up with books and piecing stuff together etc. it feels more rewarding
Lol wether this theory is over exagerated or not I dig this over all other lore/theory channels. You keep it new and fresh while other just copy off each other. Keep it up!
the other theory crafter sticks with what we have in game and not rush to empty conclusions the only RUclipsr that has high quality content when it comes to lore is catwithbluehat
This actually means a lot, after the sumeru quest now i understand it much clearly, how our sister is now beloning to this world, while the catacalsm she was in khanreah which made her to be stuck in the timeline that havent changed, this explains why she is on the abyss's side, how she knows his journey will end (saying that "we will meet at the end of your journey" basically means that) and pointing out they will meet again once the dust has settled, so theyre just playing these "Acts" to perform the neccesary changes for world to be rescued before abyss possibly causing more harm. She knows well this happened so she does not try to stop them, she just makes sure everything goes according to the "Acts" thats why shes not shocked when Dvalin got saved, only thing that she got shocked by was knowing it was his brother who stopped him. As for dvalin, this explains how he lost his memory, this part is a bit of a theory but he might have used the "Abyss powers", to stop celestia from actually destroying Khanreah, everytime they try to do it Dain would stop them, so they had to let him do it, but then quickly seal him away and punish him for what he did, then they swapped the timelines. This caused Dain to stay in the new timeline without being transformed, but for his memories to be gone. He probably used the powers to protect the Abyss sibling and khanreah, thats why he says "Defeat me command me to step aside, show me you are worthier than i to rescue her", to sum things up, - Abyss sibling belongs to this world because she actually appeared in the timeline on its creation. - Dain did a big oopsie while trying to save Abyss sibling which caused the actual transformation of its people, hence how he got punished for it. - Dain feels bad for them because he actually feels deep inside its his fault what happened. - The powers we see Dain use is the actual Abyysal powers, the 8th element we see in the TCG. - Abyss sibling knows how this journey ends, she just cant interfere, so she follows us in our every step. - We are just a actor in this play, to save the world from Abyssal powers being used again, hence the trailer using "Acts" and the Natlan trailer being just like a play - God of War's secret is the "Play" we are in, we still yet to know why she chose to tell it to us. - We dont know which "Act" is khanreah in the trailer, the number is eradicated, this also supports the theory of Acts since we wouldnt be in the play anymore if we have reached khanreah that was destroyed to ground 500 years ago, only if we did time travel.
Here's another thing If Paimon can fly, how did she end up drowning in the first place? Was it intentional so that they could meet and travel together without Paimon being sussed out? Edit: eyy 1.4k this is a first Edit: I think Paimon can indeed fly and not just levitate or float because there's a few quests where she admits that she flies and does it 1. Paimon said "since she can fly", she can check the top part of that big ass tree in Nantianmen I think, then went on with the job 2. In the new world quest in Sumeru, she said "since she can fly", she can clean the top part of the Statue There's another one but I can't remember it anymore plus she does not correct people whenever they call her "flying companion"
my theory is that celestina threw her down there when traveller was thrown in the world. they got as close as they could, but as she was thrown she hit the water
@@CaesarKain_official that’s not really how amnesia works tho. paimon already seems to remember everything she’s been programmed to know from the beginning; to guide the traveller through the acts.
This might be possible thing And also this might be the third timeline already, the other twin might be the first one that was deployed to fix the timeline without a guide, and because of that she was deceived at the end of his/her journey hence turning his back against the job. Since the other one failed to do the task and worse they are trying to spread the abyss again on the timeline, the Celestia now deployed the second twin/ Aether but now with a guide so it will not stray from the path. My added theory can describe the Battle Pass story, which Venti is Narrating who also know the songs/ story of past and future
Maybe celestia tried to alter the timeline in a different manner first, abyss twin might have been tasked to help khaenriah to not experiment with abyssal power (since they might have awakened before, they seem to know dainsleif, etc.)… And since abyssal twin grew up with khaenriah they perceive celestias curse as an injustice…. In recent chasm quest (spoilers!!) we can see them try to lift the curse so they seem to have a connection with khaenrias people (though to be fair dainsleif mentioned that one needs people for a nation to be rebuild, so abyssal twin might also just use them to gain power).
If Dainsleif end up turning on us because he prefer the original timeline, Hoyoverse should make an anime, and Dainsleif will be the top 1 anime betrayals. I will feel more betrayed if Dainsleif turned on us than finding out Paimon is the Unknown God.
I don't think its him "turning" on us, more like he wants to test us at the end to see if we're worthy enough to rescue our sibling after completing our journey through all the nations
@@BladeVoltz at this point I don't even wanna save the sibling since she wants us to reach the end of the journey I don't think things will end so quickly at sumeru
Man I love Dain and it's probably unavoidable that he's going to betray us but I seriously hope he doesn't .... I'll be so sad because he's the only one that leads us to our sibling
I just finished the Archon Interlude Quest the Perilous Trail and this adds a whole different layer to that. Doesn’t Paimon say when you’re “traveling” through time that it felt like you were also going to another world? Maybe they went to that 1st timeline and that’s how it feels when you go to another timeline entirely. And they mentioned “chaotic” spaces. Maybe those chaotic spaces are the remnants of that other timeline that they traveled to.
Dainsleif finally got to go out and touch grass before returning back to mihoyo's basement and be locked for many patches. He's allow to see a outside window for the collected miscellany
I like this chopping of timeline idea. I had a slightly different version that involves the butterfly effect. That when you alter a point in time that you have to fix the timeline backwards and forwards until there are no contradictions anymore. It is like a stone you throw into the water. The bigger the change (bigger stone), the bigger the ripples and distortions are in space time. And therefore the more work it becomes to fix the timeline. So their change is a smaller one with wiping out khanriah before it becomes too big but that was one they could manage with their combined efforts.
GENSHIN THEORY: -I noticed something in Genshin Impact while I was playing and I wanted to share it with all of you. -As you know, all the abyss monsters such as abyss mages and hilichurls were once citizens of Khaenri'ah. -And we also know that the Abyss Order’s members are all citizens of Khaenri'ah as well. -All of the Khaenri'ah transformations into monsters seemed to be grouped based on class, rank or profession. For example all of the Black Serpent Knights transformed into the Shadowy Husks and only Shadowy Husks. -This means we can guess what some of the other Khaenri'ah monster’s original professions were before they transformed. -Firstly, let's talk about the Abyss Lectors. -The Abyss Lectors are a part of the Abyss Order and are enemies. All Khaenri'ah monsters are all assumed on profession so what would have been the original Abyss Lector’s roles as a part of Khaenri'ah? Well on the wiki page we can see this line of text: “ These creatures are evangelists that can chant malefic poetry of the Abyss to command their powers. “ Evangelists are “ a person who seeks to convert others to the Christian faith, especially by public preaching: “ (as by the dictionary). Genshin has heavy themes of Gnosticism so this must not be a coincidence. And the last line of text reads: “ Within the Abyss Order, Lectors refer to themselves as "exegetes."[1] “ Exegetes are “an expounder or textual interpreter, especially of scripture.” And down below when we see what the Abyss Lector’s names translated into other languages, we see this: Chanter, cantor, bard and scholar. These all refer to people who preach and teach in one way or another. Mostly, the cantor and scholar caught my attention. A cantor is someone, “an official who sings liturgical music and leads prayer in a synagogue.” And scholar is “a specialist in a particular branch of study, especially the humanities; a distinguished academic:” This means that Abyss Lectors used to be Khaenri'ahn people (most likely scholars or officials) who taught, most likely in a way of music, chanting or speaking to preach and educate others about certain things. And based on how gnosticism is presented here, we can only assume that they are preaching about religion, if not at least something related to the divine and gods. This is backed up by their design as during their attack they start chanting and they both hold some sort of object such as a book or an orb. And if they were an official who carried these duties out, by some extent, we can assume that they might possibly be priests. This can also be confirmed since religious roles do exist in Genshin as Barbara is a deaconess and Monstadt has a church dedicated to their god. -Next we have Abyss Heralds. Abyss Heralds are another form of enemy presented by the Abyss Order. On their wiki page we can see this: “ They can transform with an Abyssal Gospel.[1] “ A gospel is “the teaching or revelation of Christ:”. Once again, very heavy themes of gnosticism. When at the bottom of the wiki page, their names translation part, we can see this: Apostle, emissary and herald. A emissary is “a person sent on a special mission, usually as a diplomatic representative.”, an apostle is” each of the twelve chief disciples of Jesus Christ.” and lastly “an official messenger bringing news.”. And from wikipedia I gathered this: “An apostle (/əˈpɒsəl/), in its literal sense, is an emissary, from Ancient Greek ἀπόστολος (apóstolos), literally "one who is sent off", from the verb ἀποστέλλειν (apostéllein), "to send off". The purpose of such sending off is usually to convey a message, and thus "messenger" is a common alternative translation; other common translations include "ambassador" and "envoy".” This means that Abyss Heralds are and were most likely messengers of some sort and based on the heavy gnosticism theme around it such as including the words “gospel” and “apostle” we can assume they were messengers related to the theme of divinity and gods. -This is backed up by the Abyss Mages being a magician or sorcerer based on the word: mage “a magician or learned person.” and in their monster forms they also represented that with them using magic and spell casting as a form of attack and holding a staff with them. Also backed up by the Black Serpent Knights as they were Khaenri'ahn royal guards and in their monster form they are represented once again, as guards and protectors with their designs having them carry large swords and armour. -This means that Abyss Lectors were most likely Khaenri'ahn scholars or an official who seeks to spread the teachers of a god/their god by using poetry and music and that Abyss Heralds were most likely Khaenri'ahn messengers on a diplomatic mission, mostly likely having some connections to gods. Not to mention that both Abyss Lectors and Abyss Heralds drop a thing called “gloomy statuettes”. The description on the item reads: “An idol made in the likeness of some unknown person. Even though this carving has seen many years pass, it still has not been damaged in any way. It seems that its previous owner must have cherished it like some holy icon.” The “holy icon” they are talking about in the description most likely refers to a god or deity of some sort. And they must have treasured this in some way as the description reads: “ It seems that its previous owner must have cherished it” Not only that but this is also a drop material for Shadowy Husks/Black Serpent Knights. -This begs the question, why would Khaenri'ah have priests and messengers who seek to spread godly teaching and messages if they themselves are a godless nation? And more of all, did Khaenri'ah worship a secret god? EDIT: Things to consider: what if the Abyss Heralds, Abyss Lectors and Abyss Mages AREN'T from Khaenri'ah? ANSWER: 1. Abyss Lectors/Heralds all look incredibly similar to the Black Serpent Knights (who we know is from Khaenri'ah) 2. The Abyss Lectors/Heralds, Shadowy Husks and Black Serpent Knights all share the Gloomy Statuette drop. If the Abyss Lectors were from Sal Vindagnyr and carries the token of a deity, thats fine. But the Black Serpent Knights also do too? This wouldn't make sense. 3. The Genshin Wiki backs this up as on the topic of Khaenri'ah they said that the Abyss Order emerged from the downfall of Khaenri'ah and also this "The Abyss Order originates from the destruction of Khaenri'ah by the gods;[2] it seeks to destroy the countries under the protection of The Seven in revenge.[7] The people of Khaenri'ah turned into the monsters of the Abyss.[8] Thus, it is thought that Abyss Mages, Abyss Heralds, and Abyss Lectors were once people from Khaenri'ah, possibly its aristocracy and knights / defending people"
I’d like to think that its either them worshiping the abyss or an inversion/mockery against the divine since they were a godless nation (which kind of relates back to my idea that they worship the abyss) also with all the gnostic themes happening I wouldn’t be surprised if the abyss was a representation of “hell”
OKAY OKAY SO LISTEN HERE 'why would Khaenri'ah have priests and messengers who seek to spread godly teaching and messages if they themselves are a godless nation? And more of all, did Khaenri'ah worship a secret god?' I was wondering the same thing and i have two suspects. SO do we remember GOLD? or RHINEDOTTIR? Albedo's master. anyway so "Rhinedottir was an alchemist and researcher who attained the pinnacle of both knowledge and alchemical prowess, thus coming to be known as "Gold." She was particularly proficient in the Art of Khemia and created all sorts of living beings, which she classified creations under several categories, including the "Alfisol" (Riftwolves), "Humus" (Durin), and "Cretaceus" (Albedo)." from the official wiki page. SO GOLD HAS THE POWER TO CREATE LIFEFORMS WITH KHEMIA. SHE CAN CREATE. and guess who else has the power to create? GOD?! the second is rather generic and i would say they prayed to their MONARCHS or rather, the Ruler/leader of the eclipse dynasty. It was pretty common way back when in kingdoms where Kings would want to live forever, and be gods. maybe instead of praying to GOD they are praying to their LEADER whom the PRIESTS think will save their country, and thus bend the opinion of the masses towards these monarchs. Now, whos the ruler? ALBERICH:(in medieval German legend) the king of the dwarfs and guardian of the treasures of the Nibelungs. A KING of DWARFS. where do dwarves live? UNDERGROUND AND MINES. What else is underground and a mine? THE CHASM. the chasm has direct relations to khaenriah and khaenrian architecture. who carries the name ALBERICH? KAEYA and his family by extension. this is a rough guess and im on 4 cups of coffee and its fkn 4 in the morning and im due a project today but here i am doing what exactly haha i hope im making sense
I think Abyss Lectors and Heralds are pure-blood citizens. The ones that did not transform into monsters, but were cursed with immortality. Like the one we meet in Enkanomiya, they have ordinary human forms, but they can transform into intimidating combat forms using the power of the abyss. Their titles reflect their position in Abyss Order, which they assumed after the Cataclysm. While Abyss Mages were transformed into hilichurls. In fact, they still are hilichurls, they're just fancily dressed.
"Then, the thread of all fates will be yours to be reweaved" - Dain So later at some point we will try to defy the fate that Celestia has "scripted" for us. The story will go real crazy there
@@nerrick9602 no buddy, primordial one love human so ofc she wont against teyvat but maybe for the Abyss not. Mostly is Unknown God and the celestia gods.
Some of the best (mostly tragic) stories I've encountered was like watching a trainwreck in motion. You saw it coming, you braced for it but nothing could prepare you for actually witnessing it. Foreshadowing is a big part of good storytelling and with the amount I'm seeing from Genshin Impact I wouldn't be surprised if MiHoYo/Hoyoverse were to go with this route.
One thing I’ve always wondered is that we saved Paimon who was supposedly drowning near the coast. And in the opening cutscene of the game the Island of Time and Wind is shown to be closest to the coast. Coincidence? I think not. It shows even more proof that Paimon is somehow connected to the Island of Time and Wind and it’s God (who is supposedly Istaroth).
My assumption is :- That the other twin who woke up earlier than us and who saw the destruction, they got scared of it and then both the twins tried to escape this world. However the sustainer knew the traveller is the one who can help them to secure the timeline. Since the twin knew about it, they couldn't have chosen them so they chose the other traveller ( the MC ). Now let's talk about Paimon. I think she is innocent. What my belief is, is that Paimon genuinely doesn't have any memories, she is just a guide created by Celestia to help the traveller and 'guide' them to take right actions for a favourable timeline. Paimon might think that she is taking action or that her thoughts are of her own free will but they are not. All things that seem natural to her are not, they are the instructions by Celestia, she was made for the sole purpose of guiding the traveller to take the right 'action' at the right 'time'. Now about Lumine, I think she genuinely wants to protect the Abyss and citizens of Khaenriah as she cannot just sit around and let the Gods of Celestia completely erase them. She feels 5he pain and wants to destroy Celestia for their incompetence and their wrong sense of justice and their ideology.
I'm with you. That is my general plot of that happened according to game so far. NOW WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPEN EXACTLY at Khaenri'ah 500 years ago because I still think Abyss was found after Khaenri'ah people are turn into monster bc of celestia.
Now if the game will make me choose if I should team up between Aether and Celestia, I would choose Aether, though.. if his ambition is to destroy the seven nations I wouldn't team up to anyone
@@swanaung8890 my idea is that the abyssal power existed before the actual abyss order, so Khaenri'ah did indeed find abyssal power and wanted to use it against Celestia. But then the when story happens, and the now Khaenri'ahns turned monsters create the abyss order. But i do agree that i don't think the abyss order existed before the cataclysm in Khaenri'ah. But also remember not all the monsters are from Khaenri'ah as there are other civilization which have been turned into monsters as well
There are some misunderstandings: -Celestial gods cant travel in time -Istaroth is the only one who can control time, she is not a celestial god, she is a shade of the Primordial One, and because controlling time is against the Heavenly Principles, she has to hide -Khaenri'ah got attacked by Celestia, because humanity had the controll, which is against the Heavenly Principles -Khaenri'ah had nothing to do with the Abyss before they got attacked -Celestia cant controll the traveler, bc he is from another world, hence he is actually against the Heavenly Principles
Nah, man, it's only previous layer of same history. Look, in timeline 2 Celestia is just insensetive warmongers (trust me i'm russian i do know how insensetive warmongers looks like) so they just indescrimenately destroy Khaeria for everyone to wonder tf celestia doing. Celestia appears to be extreamly evil, but this is just plot twist. Celestia picked smaller evil out of 2 cataclysmic options. This way we will fight Celestia as enemy only to realise in the end that our views were missguided.
I am pretty sure Khaenri'ah has some link to abyss even before Cataclysm . Inazuma was attacked by abyssal creatures at the same time Makoto joined the war .
I agree with all your points except the 2nd to the last one since I recall it was said that Rhinedottir/Gold made the monsters that eventually formed the Abyss Order after Khaenri'ah's destruction.
All of this kind of makes me wonder about Alice, Albedo said that she's a near omnipotent sorceress and during the Island event she knew that someone was saying something bad about her (it was Paimon). So I wonder if there are different timelines, then is Alice aware of it? She's quite possible very old and might have some Eris connections and maybe a connection to at least a few fallen civilizations, so is she trying to make sure everything follows the script? Or is she trying to throw things off? Or maybe she doesn't care about it? Anyway this is a pretty cool theory, I've also kind of wondered (mostly as a joke) if there's a time loop, which is why both siblings are the canon traveler and abyss sibling. Because each loop as a different sibling so both might have gone through this journey hundreds of time but the sibling we chose is the final version of the journey.
I’ll see if I can come up with my own theory, now that I’ve found Dainsleif’s Introduction. “The confluence between the past and future.” Confluence is defined as either the junction of two rivers, or a merging. If the past and future are considered as two separate rivers, and are somehow merging, Wei is on to something. “The original calamity had been overturned, yet the island in the sky set the earth to burn.” Now here is where I have different ideas. Somehow, the original calamity was overturned. AND YET, the island in the sky, Celestia as the Archon’s call it, STILL set the earth to burn. Thus meaning, SOMEONE tried to stop Khaenri’ah (most likely) from burning, and yet Celestia still destroyed it! To top it off, they did everything they could to sweep it under the rug. Anyone that even gained a hint of what they did was destroyed, and even whole nations were ruined. Now here’s a big what if. Our sibling says they already traveled the world once. What if they traveled the world BECAUSE of the destruction of Khaenri’ah, and was trying to find a way to stop it? What if Dainsleif was helping them? What if they actually did succeed, but Celestia still destroyed it? “Chalk pursues Gold, in this time inopportune, the eclipse is swallowed by the crimson moon.” Chalk and Gold. Where have we heard those two words before? That’s right. Albedo and Rhinedottir. For those that don’t know (spoilers), Rhinedottir’s last assignment for Albedo was to uncover the “truth and meaning of this world.” Albedo is still attempting this mission using the Art of Khemia. Whatever happened, or whatever Rhinedottir did in this time, most likely had a major impact to why Khaenri’ah fell. Now we look at the next line. If you don’t know (spoilers), the Eclipse is referring to the Eclipse Dynasty, the ruling dynasty of Khaenri’ah. Whatever happened in this time, the crimson moon somehow LITERALLY SWALLOWED Khaenri’ah. How? Rewatch the video: We will be reunited. You can see the crimson moon in the background as literally everything is being sucked in. Interestingly, Sustainer of Heavenly Principles seems to be here as well. “The future must atone for bygone mistakes, as the bond familiar falters and breaks- of the same blood, elders and the youth... Such is the cycle of the world, in truth.” This is a lot to unpack. However, the future must atone for bygone mistakes makes me believe that what we’re doing is somehow atoning for the mistakes made in the past. Perhaps, we’re repairing the damage that had been caused. Bond familiar makes me think of our sibling. Of the same blood really makes me think of our sibling. Perhaps they faltered and broke, and we’re trying to save them. I feel we may have more info about this line in the future, but right now it still remains vague. “Dain, what is that strand of blonde hair to you? Someone you must kill? Or the object of your penitence?” This is in reference I believe to our final fight with Dain. This may be in reference to us. Are we someone he must kill, or will we be the reason he repents? If he needs to repent, then what did he do? Now, we just got the trailer for 2.6. In this trailer we see a golden light of some sort and Dain, the husks, and the corrupted Hilichurls being affected. Yet, we’re not affected, and the Lecter isn’t. For this, let’s think back on the word Eclipse, and also on the moon, the sun, and the earth. Chalk. The essence of all life. The sun, we’ll let it represent Celestia. Khaenri’ah… the moon? What is an eclipse? Well, there are two types. Lunar eclipse and solar eclipse. At one point in time, ver. 1.1, the name of the Eclipse Dynasty was changed to Blacksun Dynasty. It was reverted again in 1.2. A black sun occurs during a solar eclipse, when the moon completely blocks the sun. Khaenri’ah is a nation where the “gods’ gaze does not fall.” Makes sense. If we think of Celestia as the sun, and Khaenri’ah as the moon, then when the sun is completely blocked by the moon, it symbolizes how, for just a moment, humanity can overpower Celestia. At the same time, a lunar eclipse occurs when the moon is entirely hidden in the earths shadow from the sun. A time where Celestia completely overpowers Khaenri’ah. And when would such a time occur? A crimson moon. A blood moon. A lunar eclipse takes place, and the moon turns red from the light of the sun. The opposite of a solar eclipse, where the moon blocks the sun completely. In version 2.6, Dain and the ones wielding the Abyssal power is affected by a blinding gold light. The light of the sun, of Celestia. Why? Because they use the power of the moon. The antithesis of the sun. Under the light of Celestia, all beings wielding the power of the abyss are hurt, and it is during the blood crimson moon that Khaenri’ah fell. Now, there was a secret message from the ruin guards in Dragonspine, stating that “For the nation, we can't forgo this skyborne power, but we failed.” They failed to obtain the pillar of Celestia that fell into Dragonspine. They wanted that pillar for something. The Abyss wanted it. What could be in The Chasm? Another pillar. What’s surrounding it? The power of the Abyss. The Abyss wants the pillar of Celestia for some reason, and I’ll bet it has something to do with a lunar and solar eclipse. What if their aim is to start a solar eclipse, the opposite of the lunar eclipse, and create a black sun that blocks the power of Celestia completely? We know that The Tsaritsa is attempting to rebel against Celestia. They’re obtaining the gnoses for that purpose. However, we have an example of that failing in the past. The lore from the tiara artifacts. When Dragonspine was still receiving blessings from Celestia, the people received a message from the gods saying they would have a hundred years of good fortune. The people were happy, but what would happen after those one hundred years? Celestia never answered. And so, the people questioned Celestia, and attempted to search for answers themselves, seeking out “antediluvian ruins and long-buried altars of sacrifice.” Antediluvian means before the flood. Ruins from before a flood? Now where does it look like a flood has occurred in the past? That’s right. Musk Reef, home to the portal to the Spiral Abyss. They tried to seek answers from the Spiral Abyss, a place Celestia thought to have been “sealed off.” Thus, they destroyed the Frostbearing Tree, likely the culprit that sent the people to the Abyss to get their answers (The Frostbearing Tree has been mentioned and acts like a sentient living being, and the people of the time received guidance and blessings from it). Celestia obviously doesn’t like the Spiral Abyss, probably for good reason. It leads to The Abyss, or at least near it. Now, let’s look at the trailer again. We see a spiral of rocks leading downwards. Doesn’t that remind you of something? Oh yeah. The spiral Abyss spirals! More specifically, the Moon Spire! The Abyssal Moon Spire is said to connect to the unknown, while the corridors connect worlds. If there’s a similar spiral in The Chasm, and Dain says that the Abyss are connected there, doesn’t that mean that whatever is going on, they’re trying to bring something into the Abyss? Perhaps, Celestia’s pillar? …Well, my theory crafting brain is done. Good day.
that is actually such a good theory and I'm surprised more people haven't noticed it? everything makes sense, especially the lunar and solar eclipse and how they represent the abyss and celestia and all in all this has some very nice analysis of the events 💫
in the Dainslief's quest she(abyss sibling) tells us that she has already travelled this world once, which means that she knows how the gods manipulated the timeline and kinda saved the world as you told, but this only shows how the abyss has some powers which defies celestia( thats something like how the sibling knows about the original timeline and also the timeline reset and how celestia manipulates everything thats in teyvat) and one of which may be knowing how the sibling knows what happened in the original timeline( the zombie apocalypse thingy) which is why celestia is highly against abyss because their powers and abyssal powers do not match or let's say co-op and we might also assume that abyssal powers may have an upper hand over the celestial powers which celestia got to know about and is keeping the abyss in the mud for this, IDK udk no one knows now but for sure something fishy has been going on in their garden of gods second is that since the timeline was reset and merged with the original one and makoto dies in both the timeline, the sacred sakura tree was planted Ei was in the euthymian plane and without her gnosis. so she might be only one in teyvat who felt that change in timeline from the original one and if this is the case, she might come up with some answers in the end-game story! Wei told about khaenriah being outside the timeline, but think if the part which is outside the timeline is inside the eternal shogun's body where Ei meditates. And because the shogun was a puppet, programmed to never change which supports the thought that shogun is not affected by timeline changes no matter what(eternal=no changes caused by time), shows how she might have evaded the timeline shift done by istaroth ** dont take seriously :D
well from enkanomiya we now know that the primordial one was taken over by a second coming, i don't think we know for sure if the cataclysm and/or the wiping out of khaenriah after was during the primordial one's reign or during the second one's reign. maybe the "zombie apocalypse across teyvat" was planted by the second coming in the first place so they could reshape the world to whatever they wanted when they took over?
@@najmaht.a.1314 Enkanomiya sunk wayyyy before cataclysm ever happened so it is in the reign of the new celestia not the one with the primordial one. Naturally when you have the power to control someday or another you'll try to get that power into execution. So I think they did want to rule over teyvat by overthrowing primordial one(phanes) and then began the timeline written or being written which is right now.
@@swanaung8890 what's the relation of gnosis and her time skipping. Ei gave away her gnosis to Miko and then went into meditation. And this all is after the cataclysm (makoto's death)
the primordial ones was the vishaps and the other ancient creatures that now lay low either deep underground/underwater or in the abyss. my hunch told me that the abyss IS the primordial one (or at least had connection to them) and the Celestia came and took over.
This makes me wonder if the tsaritsa is from the original timeline. If the first timeline ended after everything got corrupted, and as dainsleif said in the chasm that only a celestial gods power can get rid of the curse, wouldn't she try to have a contingency plan for if the abyssal corruption got out of hand like it did in the first timeline? Idk, just spitballing here, but it really does make me curious, so please add your thoughts
Holy shit it all makes sense now. How can u come up with this shit and write it so comprehensively that layman's like me will understood easily? I mean, wow, we all thought Paimon must be Istaroth but now maybe she is just a familiar?
This also explains why Traveller's sibling says: "I've already been through this journey" or something like that. The Traveller's sibling has been OUT of the timeline also when Khaneria was destroyed.
woah man this actually, makes a LOT of sense. considering honkai has already done the same, it wouldn't be a surprise if genshin did too. I always knew he meant something when he said "then, all threads of fate will be yours to REWEAVE" and it just got me thinking, what the hell do we reweave? This video is such a genius
Man, I would love to come back to this video in about 5 years from now, when hopefully Genshin's story is finished. Just to know if any of these theories were correct. Hopefully one day I can find this vid again and congratulate you and the people who were correct (maybe not in all the theories but for some).
Now i have a very interesting theory: What if its all a timeloop? What if aether's and lumine's gameplay is not actually two seperate timeline but actually is on a same timeline but just different times? Lumine travels the world the same way aether did since they are both guided by paimon, meets zhongli, venti and everyone and when she reaches the end of her journey, goes back in time and create khaenriah, the place gets destroyed and founded the abyss, and then aether wakes up and travels the world, recreate khaenriah and so on.
i'm curious about venti, he said something in his voice line "ah traveler, we meet again! what? you don't remember me? allow me to join you on your quest ONCE AGAIN" i mean.. how- and why..
@@h3onyx587 i usually hate them use, unless they're really well created/the story is well written. If it's just a cheap way of making shitty lore i hate it, but sometimes when it can be good imo
5:11 I never cared about the fact they decided to make Paimon make us go around from the destination we wanted to check. But after seeing this moment, I asked myself *Why can't Mihoyo/Hoyoverse teleport us without warning instead of making us go back as Paimon appears suggesting to explore that place later*
Oh yeah, when mhy fixed the thing wherr we can jyst icebrige our way to inazuma, i tried ice bridging again but got teleported back when i was halfway to Inazuma.
This is part it insane 5:10 ! it feels so true bcs if anyone remembers, when we just started the game and met paimon, she LITERALLY said (let's first meet with the Anemo Arcon and there's a reason WHYYYY!!)
"Show me that you are worthier than I to rescue her" If this timeline thing is true, I could easily see the twist that Dainslaif is Aether from timeline 1
@@RavFromYetti possible, not even the gods are perfect. There is a chance that Dainsleif knows about this, just like how Ei realised differences. He might came from the other timeline, so there is no adult Lumine
What if the loading screen in the beginning, the "heavenly realm", is the way to different timelines. It has more than just one way. Everyone that played Mario or other adventure games knows that you cant pass a level without clearing it. Maybe its the same in genshin. When the game loads (loading files, etc.) There is no door. The door only appears ones the "loading" finished. But just like mentioned in the beginning, there are other ways aswell. The door prevents us to move forward and lumine always says that they are trapped here. In the opening scene paimon tells that the siblings wanted to leave and travel to another World. What if its just like in zelda. In zelda there are no different Worlds, but different timelines. Maybe the siblings wanted to fix the conflict between celestia and the abyss, but the unknown god didnt want it. Why? Because the "fix" to that is to restore the first timeline, where the abyss had all the Power. But why would the solution be to give the abyss all the Power back? Because the didnt do something wrong. They gain all that Power just by develop themselfes. But why would the siblings fix that Problem? I dont have to repeat, that the siblings arent like the people of teyvat. They can controll every Element, which also is shown by their accessories. The glowing in the armor and the earing represents the Element you selected. In the opening cutscene the armor and earing have glowed white. And the color white is a bundle of all colors together. But what am I getting at now? Lumine means as much as light and aether means something like "the spread of light. So if iam not wrong, this proves that the siblings are a higher being. Maybe even higher than the primordial ones
Yes, I’m pretty sure the siblings are like gods or something. They can travel to different worlds or maybe timelines and they have lived for very long.
What if our abyss twin (Lumine) discovered the abyss power ? We might have to go back in time and perhaps stop our sibling discovering the abyss power. In Dainsleif’s introduction says “Dain what is the strand of blond hair to you ? Someone you must kill ? Or the object of your penitence ?” This blond hair person is the abyss twin, but why do you ask ? What hit me like a truck is the used words “kill” and “penitence”. Kill meaning ending someone’s life and penitence means to have pity of forgiveness on someone. So clearly Dain has to take an option either to end that person’s life or have pity for them or in another words to “save them”. Who Dain wants to save from the abyss?Lumine. This person is most definitely Lumine, he has pity for her and he wants to save her from the abyss. After all, he’s name Bough Keeper does mean to protect a branch of a tree or we can say to protect the timeline. He’s main duty is to save the timeline, he’s the fate himself like Aether. They both can re-weave the fate but only one person can go 500 years ago and save Teyvat. Why we might fight in the end, Dain wants to save Lumine while our current traveler might a different alternative at the end of the journey or maybe not. This fight will not only affect the timeline but also will affect the person they both care for; Lumine. That’s why there will be a fight between our traveler and Dain , it will be decided what will happen to Lumine’s fate. Of course, that I think if Aether manages to traveler 500 years ago this can end in two ways: Lumine understands and will NOT teach or inform the Khaenriah’s about it or she won’t accept our request and we will have to fight her to stop her and in the end well... I don’t really think I need to say it. This can theoretically be confirmed at the end of the Teyvat Chapter Trailer where Aether sits alone in a field full of (Lumine’s) favorite flower looking sad at his hand. it could indicate that something had happened to his sister. This is just a theory tho
This theory gets me thinking that maybe we will visit the PRE-cataclysm khanriah with all the advanced tech in an attempt to stop the cataclysm. I personally think that will be cooler than a region that is just a massive ruin with cubes and abyss monsters.
What if at some point we will get both to get the 100% of the story, the Khanriah before and what happend there (like Enkanomiyas ghosts) and the Khanriah after with some more clues to uncover
So, odd theory but this video inspired me. What if, we are actually Paimon in the game. In the game, we aren’t playing from traveler’s pov, we’re playing from a zoomed out pov and if you go to the menu then Paimon appears. Also in the first cutscene when you choose your avatar, we seem to be looking at them from an outsider’s pov like we’re the god in front of them. So Paimon is the god and Paimon is the one controlling traveler like how you press a button and the basic attack happens, your elemental burst, dialogue, all this happens when you press the buttons on screen. So it’s like the traveler isn’t in control you (Paimon) is.
That's true, but then, why would she keep asking things about the lost sibling ? The traveler sometimes talking makes sense with that theory tho, but then the entire storyline just drowns here, because without the search of our siblings, we aren't doing anything. Considering Paimon isn't just anyone, wouldn't she be able to find answers herself at some point, since she should be controling us ? She would probably forget to ask so many questions about the sibling at some point because well... I think it's just the harder way to get answers about it and it takes much more time to do it this way, since no one ever wants to say anything to us
Also, thinking about it, why is Paimon telling us not to go to a certain area specifically when we want to, that doesn't make sense? (I almost died because of her 😩)
The main flaw in this theory is that Teyvat has a single timeline due to it being a bubble universe. This is confirmed by Ei's story quest. Ei did not know about the tree because she planted it. There was only one Ei ever, throughout its timeline. This alone tells us that timeline splitting isnt a thing in Teyvat, since if it was, the new Ei would immediately feel that the tree was always there as well. She didnt because her initial encounter hadnt happened yet.
@@prasoontripathi4179 Istaroth is a shade of the primordial one (the primordial one = fanes and four shades, of which isteroth is one of them) were supplanted by celestia and the archons who came later.
This is a really nice theory that you made up. I almost believed in this theory but if this is true. It would be insane. But to be honest I have a feeling the traveler would get tired by all of this. Because he's/she's involved in so much shit
Honestly all they want to do is just go home. The moment they met their twin they were willing to leave Teyvat to its own problems just so they could go home.
The traveller is already tired of all this shit like in the beginning of Inazuma we can clearly see the difference in dialogue. People : go there, do that plus this and... Maybe..... Like MAYBE ... We will let's you go search for your sibling. The traveller: Wait wtf ?????? But they and up doing it anyway.
me who doesn't play genish impact yet i know the characters and most of their backstory.Idk why but it's interesting to watch theories of this game from your channel...
Imagine if at some point in the story we get a quest where we play as our sibling recapping every key moment they experienced (perhaps some plot twists they encountered and bosses they faced). And the quest could also provide sneak peaks of the remaining regions.
i need to replay the game soley for lore purposes. this game is so eerie now with all of this knowledge. Ive always gotten goosbumps when the screen turns red and paimon urges to not explore. this game is soooo creepy
I don't think paimon is in anyway keeping things from the traveler, i remember an old theory of paimon being a seelie. it is said that seelies will remember bits of their past lives if you follow them. Maybe this is why paimon remember where to go next since she'd know from her past live where to go at which point which is crucial to kind of "fix everything"
it's not only directions that she knows, but history, and items etc. plus she has name of the demons of ars goetia like every god entity (archon or not)
yeah, and it's said they had a form of fairy like appearance before and an otherworldly palace, that would explain where she goes when she's not in a cutscene
@@ejokurirulezz I think Paimon is like Gyoba - greatly diminished from what she used to be. Which is why she has a goetic name, but doesn't have much to show for it.
@@s3a.w Indeed. Paimon seems to have some sort of somebody-else-s-problem effect, similar to how adults in Sumeru do not believe in Aranara. The only alternate explanation, is that people assume Paimon is like Oz the Raven, which does not have a "kind", because he is just Fishl's imagination made real.
The thing is , there is no original script to follow , cause cataclysm wasnt a thing in the original timeline , for the butterfly effect to not happen, u gotta make others believe that everything is happening according to the original timeline , like if u are dead in the original timeline and someone finds out you're dead , for the butterfly effect to not occour , u gotta pretend to be dead and let the journey do its thing , the cataclysm wasnt a thing and kanreiah wasnt destroyed in the original timeline so....the butterfly effect would occour and how would u have a script that doesn't exist (Fellow steinsgate believer)
Can I ask what’s ur basis for believing that the cataclysm didn’t happen in the “original” timeline? I’m not trying to argue, I just don’t know a lot about the events that happen in the story.
@@typh2630 idk if it happens or not in lore , cause its wei's theory about 2 timelines to figure out what's our journey, i was just trying to explain why it wouldnt work , it can, need a few changes to it ,he said that it was too late for the heavens to convert the outcome into something favorable cause 99% of the people have turned into monsters, even if they did retaliate and make a cataclysm happen , it wont be the same cataclysm as in the 2nd timeline because a lot of humans havent turned into monsters yet , only the people of kanreiah did , there being a difference , like killing the soldiers in ww2 isnt the same as going back and killing the soldiers in ww1 , there still is a good chance of ww2 happening ( a bit useless analogy sorry , you get it) It wouldnt matter if cataclysm did happen in the end of timeline one , cause there's no way to replicate or bluff 99% of humans turing into monsters in the 2nd timeline, so the scripts wouldnt match eitherway
If they(heavens) did retaliate inbetween(like before 99% of humans turning into monsters) and failed in the 1st timeline , then its a different story , cause in the 2nd timeline , they did retaliate thus destruction of kanreiah , but we kind of dont know where these hilichurls are coming from , maybe humans are still converting into monsters and we are far away from 99% of humans converting into them , if thats the case , yes , his theory would make sense , meaning 99% humans converting into monster is still happening but the heavens have it under control somehow , and we are just mimicking other stuff(our journey)
Just something interesting I wanted to add (not sure if anybody has already suggested this), but I think this also may add up to the "sky is a hoax" thing that Scaramouche mentions. Thanks to Mona, we know for a fact that people's fates are written in the stars. By following the video's direction, perhaps the fact that Celestia decided to cut off the old timeline and create a new one to add in, messed up the people's supposed fates. For example, maybe NPC 1 was supposed to have a smooth walk from point A to point B, but because of the new timeline, they suddenly meet their doom by falling off an unexpected ditch, something that was never supposed to happen. Perhaps because of this chaos, Celestia thought it fit to replace the original sky with a fake sky to prevent the madness from continuing, hence "the sky is a hoax."
this actually makes sense cause the anemo statue says that it is waiting for a noble soul to arrive so that the thousand winds can unfold a new story, plus the waypoints say that they are placed in a certain order, maybe it has some relation to this theory? also "loom of fate", this term is found in traveler's story and is also the codeword for abyss' initial operation.
In travelers story, in game, there is something called "loom of fate", it's locked but I think that the story about loom of fate kinda fits your version
i think the reason Ei remember there was no sakura tree was more because she has direct involvement with it instead of being out of the timeline, similar to how in MIB 3 J still remember K after Borris went to the past to kill young K cause J was there, and Ei was the one who planted the seed in future after all
Maybe since she was in Khanreah (I forgot how to spell it) she was out of the “area” that was brought back in time to be saved. Maybe the Celestia gods brought all the regions but Khanreah so that the place known for having harmful ideals to gods would be “exterminated”. I dunno this is just how I’m thinking of it. Cause none of the regions we have unlocked (I think there are ruins in “modern” mondstadt but those were where Khanreah was) yet have visible damage or ruins from the war that happened 500 years ago. I’m not rlly good at getting ideas across so You’ll probably have a stroke reading this
Imagine Dainsleif as weekly boss, woah- that'll be so awesome, I rlly want him to be playable. I love him sm, and we'll see him again on 2.6 I think WHICH IS AWESOME LETS GOOOO- have fun and progress till the end travelers!❤️
Watching this gives a new understanding to the Abyss Twin's line at the end of the We Will Be Reunited quest about how they'll be reunited in time and how they've always had enough time.
I came back to tell u that after wtaching the 3.6 livestream today, and getting a glimpse of nahida's act 2 story quest, that you theory has been proven, congradulations.
The way you present this theory, it’s how I theorize how would Getter Robo would truly end: the past saved by the future. If you think about it, the original/past timeline of Getter Robo/Genshin witnessed the bad ending, and the new timeline’s future will make a good ending. You and I. Different directions, same goals. From one fiction theorist to another.
This theory is very interesting and I think that it's quite plausible. On the other hand, why would all the gods of Teyvat ignore or even struggle to control/destroy these abyss powers that turned everyone into monsters? As far as I know lorewise the gods would have no problem ending a whole nation of monsters if they teamed up. Morax was able to kill other gods easily, I feel like it's pretty fair to assume and imagine that if he were to team up with the other 6 gods they would be able to end a couple thousand monsters. And as of right now (2.7 event quest) we learnt that khaenri'ah engaged in a battle that took place on The Chasm's ground which led to the monsters being unable to make their way further into teyvat by the sacrifice of the electro Yaksha, bosacius, which led to the sealing of The Chasm. What are your thoughts on this? In your theory you state that celestia ended khaen'ria early in the timeline to prevent the spread, and yet somehow they still were spreading 500 years ago. Just doesn't add up. Also, how exactly would Ei be able to just chase Makoto into the past like that? What were the other gods doing? If the unknown god needed help from us to "fix" the timeline, why wouldn't she allow us to travel with our sibling. Or why did our sibling turn evil in the first place and joined the abyss's side theoretically? We know too little
"Think of it like a zombie apocalypse" Funnily enough, in Honkai Impact 3rd, the honkai power/energy can actually turn people into zombies and honkai beasts, such thing is called "Honkai cascade", a point of honkai infection of no return, where the person infected by honkai (and doesn't posses any honkai inmunology or can't simply control such power, or the power is too much) can turn into a lifeless being that only spreads the honkai by going against humanity, these people that are infected don't have any of their memories remain and they will simply attack any person nearby, obviously, there is people that can harness the Honkai, and they can avoid suffering a Honkai Infection in a Cascade level, basically Honkai can turn people into beasts/monsters with no self control of themselves or no memories (or they have such memories deep in their minds but they are already in a point of no return of honkai infection that, is better to end their misery)
Can someone tell me when exactly the Abyss was discovered/created? I had always assumed that it was made by Lumine after the Fall of Khaenriah but I've seen multiple people and within the canon story line impling it was made before even Khaenriah's existence. I'm sorry if I sound like an idiot I promise I read the lore I just never knew about this 😭.
My headcanon is that istaroth sister or one of the moon sister is the goddess of the abyss moon and She is like a berserker beast that need to be kept in check by the her sister
From all the world building theories I feel like the Abyss is just, there. Everything always comes in threes-- so it just makes sense where there's a deity, there's a devil. And in between them, something human. Honkai/abyssal energy needs something to counteract it.
i'm pretty sure the abyss has always been there. enkanomiya has existed since before The Primordial One and The Second One Who Came fought each other. The war betweent those 2 caused enkanomiya to fall into the dark sea, the abyss. also in enkanomiya the 3 towers we fixed in the three realm gathering event represent the three realms. Light(elemental) realm, Abyss realm, and Human realm. So i guess the abyss has always existed since the start, but perhaps the whole corrupting power was only discovered and used by khaenriahs?
Honkai energy. Honkai energy cascade would cause zombification. If it already existed long before, during the Dragon era, it's possible that no world are safe from Honkai. But if it means that Abyss just got created when humans arrived means, Honkai kills humanity whenever they are.
Theres a theory in the anime, or show or whatever, how Venti had reverted time, and no one knew only hime, so meaning were doing it all over again, hence why Venti says "Ah Traveler, we meet again!"
So like- Lumine also went through all that shiz with Paimon then after she finished her journey she 're-weaved fate' again, that's why there's no canon traveler
Wow very interesting especially after the new Archon quest and the Wanderer ending quest where it’s kinda says you can try to change your fate but can you really 😮🤯
That all makes sense now. If I never helped neko and she never got her catto statue, just think about it. She would probably turn evil and cause another cataclysm 😔😔😔
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Then the world goes back into whatever was happening during the cataclysm (or worse) then the traveler saves the world from destruction and gets paid with 60 primos
60 primo lmao
😅😂
nah bro- 20 at best, if lucky maybe 40
@@kesiylove8042 well, Genshin is getting competitors by the end of this year, so probably we will get hundreds if not thousands Primogems for quests and events...
It is good for us, competition is always good for consumers :)
Yummyyyy 60 primos
Imagine at the end of all this, Celestia just says "as for the reward of saving the world on your journey, its the friends you made along the way."
I paid for my frens damnit
@@finding_aether lmaoo
+60 primogems for completing the whole quest
all those dollars you spent to get your new friends :) ( unless ur f2p like me, then u have no friends)
Celestia: Here take 3 Hero's wit for your bravery and completing the game
Example supporting how Paimon manipulates us to make sure we "follow the script", the weird blurring effect as Paimon's calls out to us after seeing our sibling in the "We Will Be Reunited" quest, also her sudden urge to get the fuck out of there, reminding us that we need to help the people there, now that we've been somewhat reassured about our sibling. Paimon is making sure we don't disregard helping the people after seeing our sister. One other thing I found weird is that our sibling ignores Paimon's presence in the "We Will Be Reunited Quest", although I'm more thinking it doesn't matter, it's just a detail I'd like to point out.
And the sibling knows everything. Because it says " we have enough time..." and " we complete you journey and see the true nature of the world"
Perhaps the abyss sibling knows that we’re following a script and doesn’t acknowledge piamontés cuz they know what she’s there for, but then, why didn’t the try to save us? Do they want us to follow the script or do they just leave us be so we learn how this world truly works? Is this part of a bigger plan??
@@fabiolazamudio3584 maybe they (abyss) just don't want the celestia to get involved too soon and are deliberately following their script while doing things behind their back (in the abyss).
Or lumine was there to also ensure that the abyss is following the script so in the future they won't fuckup again.
@@HenSt-gz7qj Now that I think about it...we aren't attack by Celestia eventhough we read that forbidden book from Enkanomiya, we knew many secrets but celestia isn't moving its kinda make sense now...Celestia giving us plot armor to finish the script
With no Paimon, I would've wandered into Sumeru months ago
We could’ve reached celestia too💀
i could’ve had a vacation to snezhnaya…
I would be chatting with childe's family
I would have been simping for tsaritsa
I could've enjoyed circus in Fontaine
4:44 the reason why Ei was out of the timeline that time was due to the fact that when Makoto was dying she collected her consciousness and put it into something like the plane of euthymia (the domain in the 2nd story quest of Raiden Shogun)
Ouh this is make sense because from the story quest the place like plane of euthymia exist like OUTSIDE THE TIME itself therefore if there's changes in the original timeline, Ei & Makoto still same.
Yeah, The Time inside Makoto's realm of consciousness does flow differently from that of the outside world
Hehe you said "collected her consciousness" and it got me thinking of collective consciousness
It is also possible that the archons are not affected by that overwriting of the timeline and even more so that Ei at that time became an archon, it would also explain why so much secrecy with Celestia and why the documents about Khaenri'a were erased , It would even make more sense to what Scara said that the sky is false even though he has part of the archon powers.
@@fan13204 then what will kaeya do ?
You know, besides paimon, I think there is one other force controlling our script: The Adventures Guild. If you think about it, they have directed us to a lot of places where we need to go for the script, not to mention being one of our sources of materials for the journey. Sort of like a costume department. It would explain how they could give pure wishes, and how they can literally manipulate the world. If domains are outside of the timeline, like the plane of Euthymia is, the adventures guild would get either you, or both you and your brother out of the timeline so it can be adjusted. So perhaps this isn't all one take, rather a splice of multiple clips. The comparison between Teleporter way-points and the way the abyss travels is made when me meet Dainsleth in the chasm. He also admits that the abyss can control the end destination, so perhaps our waypoints are controlled by the first ones?
Also, it would explain how the adventures guild has pure refined wishes from primos (something only done by Paimon), as well as why they send us to the same domain for world level increases. It's a way to get us out of the timeline so that it can be changed.
Just some food for thought.
YOOO
and how kathrine is a robot maybe she was programed for it maybe paimons a robot aswell
@@perezrodriques5268 im more convinced now that paimon's a seelie
bro thats big brain theory bruh- the way they send us to the same domain to 'clear it' when were actually just being directed out the timeline for the world level increases
omg im not the only one
I never took "How about we explore the area ahead of us later" so seriously
@Blue Fire but the theory here says that we are following an act and Paimon is making sure that we are following it correctly thus the "How about we explore the area ahead of us later"... Yeah it's obvious that the area isn't out yet but it's still a sign of this theory being true
@Blue Fire Still, there could be other ways of not letting the traveller pass (just blocking with an invisible/grid wall, showing a warning window, etc)
@@applebits8324 lol, if that so, why not just make a walled path where the traveller just follow it in straight line, and put signs that say "your sibling is straight ahead, just walk along this narrow walled path"
i remember climbing in The Chasm Underground, and Paimon just said "There's nothing here, we should go back" instead of other out of bounds dialogue when trying to go to the map border in tevyat, and without getting teleported back, but instead i found an invisible wall when climbing and cannot climb further
@Blue FireI believe it to be true, the gods could've plenty other ways to stop you from going to uncharted territory or land that hasn't been discovered. Genshin Impact is turning into one of the craziest games I have ever played, this lore is so deep, I makes me think that it's a anime TV show and we are about to go into Season 4 with the Dendro Archon
Act: ??? - Khaenri’ah
The Dream yet to be dreamed
And here we are wondering why the act number is blurred out? Why not act 7?
Is it because we are going back to past? Or is it because it’s a part where the gaze of the gods cannot set upon. Which is not included in the script
that's really interesting. this means that theres a possibility the next archon quest after snezhnaya might not be khaenriah, i cant wait to see the story unfold
"The Dream yet to be Dreamed"
this remind me of Final Fantasy 10
@@acherthecat8316 I have a theory that maybe it's bc we're in the Teyvat chapter and Khaenri'ah doesn't have an act no. (yet) cos it's not part of Teyvat
What if Khaenri'ah is actually Act 0, which make sense because how the entire timeline happens from Khaenri'ah
@@joehanz9217 Bro I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this! Zanarkand reference is written all over this story line hands down. I also feel like FFx13 pt 2 was written into here aswell, it's way to similar for it to be a coincidence.
This is such a big brain theory. One thing that just popped up in my head after watching the Loki show is, if you want to keep new time branches from going out of control, you weave your time travel actions right before an apocalypse. So if the gods did go back in time and do the initial attack in the new timeline, following it up with the cataclysm makes perfect sense, even though technically in this new timeline Khaenriah hadn't done anything yet to deserve it. And this justifies the Abyss sibling's anger towards the gods, because to them the gods wiped out Khaenriah for minimal transgressions.
this actually makes good sense
I've also seen a theory about the abyss sibling being like the founder of khaenria or something
what if both travellers are being used by the gods to fix both problems? i mean. 1)unify timelines withour cataclyism(the Aether part) and 2), try to restore khaenria civilization so they expel the abyss power once and for all (the lumine part). Remember the 2.6 event? when the abyss herald wants to "purge the darkness" from every khaenria civilian? and Dain says its too dangerous. But MAYBE they want to be humans once more, but they cant because they are cursed, and thats the Lumine quest, is to uncurse them. (but she does it meanwhile Aether is doing the "main quest").
@@rosiaiee5887 problem is, I think there's some missing link (plot hole) that has yet to be known.
The travelers were "world traveler", they travel between worlds. That's where the opening to the game comes into. But then... how did they got involved with Khaenri'ah? why is the other sibling is "asleep" while the other is building Khaenri'ah? and how did the traveler ends up on the beach and met Paimon? He/She said that they've traveled for years in search of their sibling before meeting Paimon... (if they've traveled for years, why is he/she still at level 1?)
its like, all those events are either happening in different time or even timeline/universe...
or they are completely different reality altogether that got put together, thus creating the chaotic reality?
this makes perfect sense bcuz Zhongli tells us in his story quest when we ask about Khaenri'ah, that his contract to keep his mouth shut about the events of the Cataclysm happened BEFORE the events of the destruction of Khaenri'ah. The Primordial one could have made a contract with him that he is not allowed to tell us or anyone what happened 500 years ago, for the sake of the script that we are to play out in the form of a journey. Cuz if we were aware of the meaning of our journey, the God's attempts to rewrite time could fuck up.
She already went through the entirety of teyvat, now it’s our turn
I wonder how much 5 stars she got
A lot...
She whaled! 😎
@@realrahzz But she kept losing the 50/50 so she wanted to destroy Celestia as revenge
She got c69 qiqi so she decided she had enough
she lost way too much 50/50 thats why she wants to overthrow Celestia
If the traveller really was set up, then imagine what would happen when he/she realizes this. Will there be a plot twist where the abyss sibling will need to calm down the traveller that got angry after realizing all of the stuff he/she went through was set up by celestia?
I would HAPPILY use my daughter and destroy everything
would've be cool
The plot twist I am dreaming about, much like in Honkai Impact
we already know tho. were the traveler. but, Paimon is controlling us.
ngl, if in the end there was a option to either, destroy the whole world and fuck up with everything or save everyone, i would destroy the whole world
new animated short was dropped, new dain archon quest will arrive. this 2 years old timeline theory cooked so hard.
Wouldn't it be cool if we were actually the primordial one at the beginning of the game where we choose our twin? Basically like saying "I choose this twin for timeline 2" and then the heavenly principle be like "ok" then proceeds to cube the twin that we later on play as.
That'd be hella cool and extra immersion points
ayoo
🤔 COOLIO
Our sibling would try to kill us for putting them through more trauma
Hmm. As good as it sounds, i prefer it to be the way it is. If it were as you say, there would be less mystery.
This whole theory makes a LOT of sence, Specially the "we're supposed to follow a script" part. This part of the theory can be solidified by how the stories chapters are labled, noticed how in game they are labled as acts, this fits in because stage plays most usually refer to their chapters as acts.
I have never thought of it that way, interesting 🧐
It all makes sense accept I still don't understand how is it possible for Ei to go outside of a timeline by accident.
@@BaoNguyen-vy2wo Teyvat has its own laws
@@indighost747 that does not justify anything though? Even if it has its own law, you can't just say that a character went out of a timeline because it is the law that made it that way
@@BaoNguyen-vy2wo Nah, I totally get what you’re saying I don’t really get it either. Typically whenever nothing makes sense people just quote the loading screen as a joke so I did too. But yeah it doesn’t make much sense to me either at the moment
"went scuba diving"
Wait a minute... Fontaine just got released and this video is already 1 year old...
Time travel
i think they're referring to the entrance of Enkanomiya (you prolly dont even remember your comment on this video by now lol)
the attention and foreshadowing and world building in Genshin is insane. I never questioned why the teyvat trailer introduced the regions in acts as if using a script. Can't wait to see how the story unfolds.
Welcome to Hoyoverse from School Girls Gun Z :^)
@@sionming9064 we all thought genshin was genshit
god i hope that im still alive when genshin finally ended their story
I hope my phone remains alive
They said they're gonna wrap it up in 5 or 4 years or something you'll be fine
Then don't die
@@Yohan-yc2bv I knew it,Diluc is the original pyro archon
yeah i hope there won't be a world war or a pandemic or a natural disaster that would sink my country lol
It honestly makes sense, especially with Paimon watching over the traveller, since she’s our “subtle guide” by saying stuff like “traveller, let’s go over there!” with any real reason, and something dramatic happens-
When we met Signora in Liyue, Paimon stopped us to fight her because she's "too strong", yet in Inazuma, when we confront her again, Paimon does nothing and we actually won against her
Because we become stronger and have a chance to -kill- defeat her with "help" of Ei
I think because getting powers from each statue of the seven in each region boosts traveler's power by much so we annihilated her then balls🏀 overcooked her
@@ShootDBall what If we haven't unlocked level 10 statue of any region?
Childe was also there.
Tbh I really wonder how did traveler got stronger canonically
This whole “following a script idea” and how the story chapters are labeled as “Acts” got me thinking about how every single harbinger is named after comedia dell’arte personalities- originating from an early form of italian theatre. Now it makes a bit more sense and ads a lot more depth to them in this story.
omg! thx wei secret hoyoverse developer! ima expose wei hes secretly hoyoverse developr
o m g ! i study italian language and literature and it never occured to me like this even though i knew they sounded familiar!
Bro I just looked it up and your so right, I'm getting goosebumps on genshin impact
you see, I guess hoyo hinted us that tsaritsa knew what gods in celestia did so they named their harbinger after comedian as a joke ass to celestia, to mock them by steal their keys, which is gnosis
Also how the latest golden apple archipelago event wuth the acting ravens, theres a book in sumeru called 'the shepard and the xx' (forgot) where the spirit calls the humans 'ravens'
I have a Theory:what if the start of the game is actually the end when the MC found his sibling and they were about to live this world but maybe the sustainer of heavenly principles has been used by the "God of time" as a specific event to be able to make them reverse time over and over again, that's why it seems like the "bad" twin has already traveled through this world because maybe he remember somehow while the other twin doesn't remember anything except the fight with the sustainer (I accept any proof for that theory to be impossible or possible )
My take is this, both siblings got captured, first the sister then the traveler, sister wondered teyvat first and tried to get back to her brother during her exploration catalism happened and teyvat got destroyed (apocalypse) as explained in this video "first timeline" then the sister finished her "journey" and reached to the celestia god and asked to get her brother back, but the celestia already had the plan in mind (second timeline), and everything has to happen in a correct order so both timeline can to merge together, so celestia saw the potential of using her brother (traveler) to follow same steps as her sister (looking for her sibling) and told the sister the only way she can get her brother back is to save teyvat, and that means that first her brother should follow the same journey she did and for doing that paimon was selected to be the travelers guide to be our companion, and it's paimon that tells us "it's good time to visit ...." "....told us to meat him at...." ".....is probably waiting for us let's go" paimon always pushes us to do quests in correct time when we are exploring, paimon also keeps us away from the "unlocked" areas, so that the travelers doesn't leave the correct path or take a step earlier than the other, paimon also speaks on travelers behalf, paimon knows what exactly should be said and she the one doing the talking bcuz she must not let the unpredictable happen, bcuz then it can effect the future and then both timelines won't be able to merge, also celestia told the sister to side with the abyss in (second timeline) so she keeps everything on check in their side, that's why she's asking him to complete his journey bcuz only then they can be together again, but now they both has to do their rule first, and if the sister tells us the truth, we are not going to take that journey, so she has to hide it from the traveler and stay away from him so he completes the journey and creates a replica of the first timeline but this one will not be apocalyptic
@@blackoctopus5182 Kinda make sense, great work of thinking. Hopefully we see the end before 2090.
@@Defi4nc3s1 😂 hopefully
@@Defi4nc3s1 when you realize the current story in genshin is called "Chapter Teyvat" after the twins meet up, there might be a few more chapters to go until the game ends
@@Derek-bq4fx It's called Teyvat for a reason, because we have to understand the whole world's logic. Afterwards, yes could be additional chapters but who knows when we will reach celestia in the first place - if we ever will...
They could twist it that we never reach out to it and confront the other twin much sooner.
I think genshin impact will always be underrated despite the fact that its famous. There's so much hidden interesting lore in the game. Even the npc whom we never have to interact with has a unique story. Books found all over teyvat have so many secrets and story which we can't understand at the moment. I feel like even if you finish the archon quests and all, its impossible to unlock every secret there is in genshin. Even if you think that the story is lacking or something, theres so much effort and thought that was put into them and we just don't know about it
Lots of people thought genshin is just a waifu and husbando game but they’re so wronggg
honestly same, people are mostly just talking about "uwu waifu impact uwu husbandos owo abyss meta how one shot here is my damage per screenshot build" but genshin is still an RPG game, the lore is still important and I think mihoyoverse has done an amazing job with the lore compared to other gacha games which are just cashgrabs. i know genshin is also a cashgrab, but at least there is still effort put in to the lore and details of the characters and worldbuilding.
The problem is most people don‘t want to read walls of text, it would be more fun and intriguing to have more variety in how you uncover hidden lore like finding secret quests that you can only unlock by following up with books and piecing stuff together etc. it feels more rewarding
Genshin impact is so overrated tho💀
@@thanasesstratoures9201 but the lore is underrated
Lol wether this theory is over exagerated or not I dig this over all other lore/theory channels. You keep it new and fresh while other just copy off each other. Keep it up!
+1 because he has Chinese native language.. so I guess it’s easier for him to dig information..
@@rendrarifaldi3469 that’s what I’m thinking. He’s a Chinese. Sooo the information is easy for him to know.
I mean the video description says not to be taken seriously. His theories have a bunch of out-of-the-question ideas but they sure are entertaining.
Woaaaaaaaaaaaaaah 😱
the other theory crafter sticks with what we have in game and not rush to empty conclusions
the only RUclipsr that has high quality content when it comes to lore is catwithbluehat
This actually means a lot, after the sumeru quest now i understand it much clearly, how our sister is now beloning to this world, while the catacalsm she was in khanreah which made her to be stuck in the timeline that havent changed, this explains why she is on the abyss's side, how she knows his journey will end (saying that "we will meet at the end of your journey" basically means that) and pointing out they will meet again once the dust has settled, so theyre just playing these "Acts" to perform the neccesary changes for world to be rescued before abyss possibly causing more harm. She knows well this happened so she does not try to stop them, she just makes sure everything goes according to the "Acts" thats why shes not shocked when Dvalin got saved, only thing that she got shocked by was knowing it was his brother who stopped him. As for dvalin, this explains how he lost his memory, this part is a bit of a theory but he might have used the "Abyss powers", to stop celestia from actually destroying Khanreah, everytime they try to do it Dain would stop them, so they had to let him do it, but then quickly seal him away and punish him for what he did, then they swapped the timelines. This caused Dain to stay in the new timeline without being transformed, but for his memories to be gone. He probably used the powers to protect the Abyss sibling and khanreah, thats why he says "Defeat me command me to step aside, show me you are worthier than i to rescue her", to sum things up,
- Abyss sibling belongs to this world because she actually appeared in the timeline on its creation.
- Dain did a big oopsie while trying to save Abyss sibling which caused the actual transformation of its people, hence how he got punished for it.
- Dain feels bad for them because he actually feels deep inside its his fault what happened.
- The powers we see Dain use is the actual Abyysal powers, the 8th element we see in the TCG.
- Abyss sibling knows how this journey ends, she just cant interfere, so she follows us in our every step.
- We are just a actor in this play, to save the world from Abyssal powers being used again, hence the trailer using "Acts" and the Natlan trailer being just like a play
- God of War's secret is the "Play" we are in, we still yet to know why she chose to tell it to us.
- We dont know which "Act" is khanreah in the trailer, the number is eradicated, this also supports the theory of Acts since we wouldnt be in the play anymore if we have reached khanreah that was destroyed to ground 500 years ago, only if we did time travel.
Here's another thing
If Paimon can fly, how did she end up drowning in the first place?
Was it intentional so that they could meet and travel together without Paimon being sussed out?
Edit: eyy 1.4k this is a first
Edit: I think Paimon can indeed fly and not just levitate or float because there's a few quests where she admits that she flies and does it
1. Paimon said "since she can fly", she can check the top part of that big ass tree in Nantianmen I think, then went on with the job
2. In the new world quest in Sumeru, she said "since she can fly", she can clean the top part of the Statue
There's another one but I can't remember it anymore
plus she does not correct people whenever they call her "flying companion"
This tbh^^
my theory is that celestina threw her down there when traveller was thrown in the world. they got as close as they could, but as she was thrown she hit the water
@@knottypigeon719 and because she hit the water too hard she lost her memories and along the traveler's journey her memories recalled
@@CaesarKain_official that’s not really how amnesia works tho. paimon already seems to remember everything she’s been programmed to know from the beginning; to guide the traveller through the acts.
MY MIND IS SO BLOWN YALL CONTINUE TO MAKE SO MUCH SENSE
This might be possible thing
And also this might be the third timeline already, the other twin might be the first one that was deployed to fix the timeline without a guide, and because of that she was deceived at the end of his/her journey hence turning his back against the job.
Since the other one failed to do the task and worse they are trying to spread the abyss again on the timeline, the Celestia now deployed the second twin/ Aether but now with a guide so it will not stray from the path.
My added theory can describe the Battle Pass story, which Venti is Narrating who also know the songs/ story of past and future
@mikoin he was from Khaenri'ah though
I don't think it's the case because that cutscene doesn't consider the playable twin. It's the same with both choices.
Maybe celestia tried to alter the timeline in a different manner first, abyss twin might have been tasked to help khaenriah to not experiment with abyssal power (since they might have awakened before, they seem to know dainsleif, etc.)… And since abyssal twin grew up with khaenriah they perceive celestias curse as an injustice….
In recent chasm quest (spoilers!!)
we can see them try to lift the curse so they seem to have a connection with khaenrias people (though to be fair dainsleif mentioned that one needs people for a nation to be rebuild, so abyssal twin might also just use them to gain power).
Dainself was the Abyss twin’s traveling partner so that might be a clue
If Dainsleif end up turning on us because he prefer the original timeline, Hoyoverse should make an anime, and Dainsleif will be the top 1 anime betrayals. I will feel more betrayed if Dainsleif turned on us than finding out Paimon is the Unknown God.
I don't think its him "turning" on us, more like he wants to test us at the end to see if we're worthy enough to rescue our sibling after completing our journey through all the nations
@@BladeVoltz yea thats what he said in the teyvat preview trailer thing
@@BladeVoltz at this point I don't even wanna save the sibling since she wants us to reach the end of the journey I don't think things will end so quickly at sumeru
What if we are actually in second attempt of istaroth to save world, and dain basically aether from the previous timeline who didn't succeed
Man I love Dain and it's probably unavoidable that he's going to betray us but I seriously hope he doesn't
.... I'll be so sad because he's the only one that leads us to our sibling
I just finished the Archon Interlude Quest the Perilous Trail and this adds a whole different layer to that. Doesn’t Paimon say when you’re “traveling” through time that it felt like you were also going to another world? Maybe they went to that 1st timeline and that’s how it feels when you go to another timeline entirely. And they mentioned “chaotic” spaces. Maybe those chaotic spaces are the remnants of that other timeline that they traveled to.
Dainsleif finally got to go out and touch grass before returning back to mihoyo's basement and be locked for many patches. He's allow to see a outside window for the collected miscellany
I like this chopping of timeline idea. I had a slightly different version that involves the butterfly effect.
That when you alter a point in time that you have to fix the timeline backwards and forwards until there are no contradictions anymore. It is like a stone you throw into the water. The bigger the change (bigger stone), the bigger the ripples and distortions are in space time. And therefore the more work it becomes to fix the timeline.
So their change is a smaller one with wiping out khanriah before it becomes too big but that was one they could manage with their combined efforts.
GENSHIN THEORY:
-I noticed something in Genshin Impact while I was playing and I wanted to share it with all of you.
-As you know, all the abyss monsters such as abyss mages and hilichurls were once citizens of Khaenri'ah.
-And we also know that the Abyss Order’s members are all citizens of Khaenri'ah as well.
-All of the Khaenri'ah transformations into monsters seemed to be grouped based on class, rank or profession. For example all of the Black Serpent Knights transformed into the Shadowy Husks and only Shadowy Husks.
-This means we can guess what some of the other Khaenri'ah monster’s original professions were before they transformed.
-Firstly, let's talk about the Abyss Lectors.
-The Abyss Lectors are a part of the Abyss Order and are enemies. All Khaenri'ah monsters are all assumed on profession so what would have been the original Abyss Lector’s roles as a part of Khaenri'ah? Well on the wiki page we can see this line of text:
“ These creatures are evangelists that can chant malefic poetry of the Abyss to command their powers. “
Evangelists are “ a person who seeks to convert others to the Christian faith, especially by public preaching: “ (as by the dictionary). Genshin has heavy themes of Gnosticism so this must not be a coincidence. And the last line of text reads:
“ Within the Abyss Order, Lectors refer to themselves as "exegetes."[1] “
Exegetes are “an expounder or textual interpreter, especially of scripture.”
And down below when we see what the Abyss Lector’s names translated into other languages, we see this:
Chanter, cantor, bard and scholar. These all refer to people who preach and teach in one way or another. Mostly, the cantor and scholar caught my attention. A cantor is someone, “an official who sings liturgical music and leads prayer in a synagogue.” And scholar is “a specialist in a particular branch of study, especially the humanities; a distinguished academic:”
This means that Abyss Lectors used to be Khaenri'ahn people (most likely scholars or officials) who taught, most likely in a way of music, chanting or speaking to preach and educate others about certain things. And based on how gnosticism is presented here, we can only assume that they are preaching about religion, if not at least something related to the divine and gods. This is backed up by their design as during their attack they start chanting and they both hold some sort of object such as a book or an orb.
And if they were an official who carried these duties out, by some extent, we can assume that they might possibly be priests. This can also be confirmed since religious roles do exist in Genshin as Barbara is a deaconess and Monstadt has a church dedicated to their god.
-Next we have Abyss Heralds.
Abyss Heralds are another form of enemy presented by the Abyss Order. On their wiki page we can see this:
“ They can transform with an Abyssal Gospel.[1] “
A gospel is “the teaching or revelation of Christ:”. Once again, very heavy themes of gnosticism. When at the bottom of the wiki page, their names translation part, we can see this:
Apostle, emissary and herald.
A emissary is “a person sent on a special mission, usually as a diplomatic representative.”, an apostle is” each of the twelve chief disciples of Jesus Christ.” and lastly “an official messenger bringing news.”. And from wikipedia I gathered this:
“An apostle (/əˈpɒsəl/), in its literal sense, is an emissary, from Ancient Greek ἀπόστολος (apóstolos), literally "one who is sent off", from the verb ἀποστέλλειν (apostéllein), "to send off". The purpose of such sending off is usually to convey a message, and thus "messenger" is a common alternative translation; other common translations include "ambassador" and "envoy".”
This means that Abyss Heralds are and were most likely messengers of some sort and based on the heavy gnosticism theme around it such as including the words “gospel” and “apostle” we can assume they were messengers related to the theme of divinity and gods.
-This is backed up by the Abyss Mages being a magician or sorcerer based on the word: mage “a magician or learned person.” and in their monster forms they also represented that with them using magic and spell casting as a form of attack and holding a staff with them.
Also backed up by the Black Serpent Knights as they were Khaenri'ahn royal guards and in their monster form they are represented once again, as guards and protectors with their designs having them carry large swords and armour.
-This means that Abyss Lectors were most likely Khaenri'ahn scholars or an official who seeks to spread the teachers of a god/their god by using poetry and music and that Abyss Heralds were most likely Khaenri'ahn messengers on a diplomatic mission, mostly likely having some connections to gods.
Not to mention that both Abyss Lectors and Abyss Heralds drop a thing called “gloomy statuettes”. The description on the item reads: “An idol made in the likeness of some unknown person. Even though this carving has seen many years pass, it still has not been damaged in any way. It seems that its previous owner must have cherished it like some holy icon.”
The “holy icon” they are talking about in the description most likely refers to a god or deity of some sort.
And they must have treasured this in some way as the description reads: “ It seems that its previous owner must have cherished it”
Not only that but this is also a drop material for Shadowy Husks/Black Serpent Knights.
-This begs the question, why would Khaenri'ah have priests and messengers who seek to spread godly teaching and messages if they themselves are a godless nation? And more of all, did Khaenri'ah worship a secret god?
EDIT:
Things to consider: what if the Abyss Heralds, Abyss Lectors and Abyss Mages AREN'T from Khaenri'ah?
ANSWER:
1. Abyss Lectors/Heralds all look incredibly similar to the Black Serpent Knights (who we know is from Khaenri'ah)
2. The Abyss Lectors/Heralds, Shadowy Husks and Black Serpent Knights all share the Gloomy Statuette drop. If the Abyss Lectors were from Sal Vindagnyr and carries the token of a deity, thats fine. But the Black Serpent Knights also do too? This wouldn't make sense.
3. The Genshin Wiki backs this up as on the topic of Khaenri'ah they said that the Abyss Order emerged from the downfall of Khaenri'ah and also this
"The Abyss Order originates from the destruction of Khaenri'ah by the gods;[2] it seeks to destroy the countries under the protection of The Seven in revenge.[7] The people of Khaenri'ah turned into the monsters of the Abyss.[8] Thus, it is thought that Abyss Mages, Abyss Heralds, and Abyss Lectors were once people from Khaenri'ah, possibly its aristocracy and knights / defending people"
I’d like to think that its either them worshiping the abyss or an inversion/mockery against the divine since they were a godless nation (which kind of relates back to my idea that they worship the abyss) also with all the gnostic themes happening I wouldn’t be surprised if the abyss was a representation of “hell”
@Kelly Li for all the big brain and time you spent on this you get 20 primos
@@Tha_boi2k haha
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'why would Khaenri'ah have priests and messengers who seek to spread godly teaching and messages if they themselves are a godless nation? And more of all, did Khaenri'ah worship a secret god?'
I was wondering the same thing and i have two suspects. SO do we remember GOLD? or RHINEDOTTIR? Albedo's master. anyway so
"Rhinedottir was an alchemist and researcher who attained the pinnacle of both knowledge and alchemical prowess, thus coming to be known as "Gold." She was particularly proficient in the Art of Khemia and created all sorts of living beings, which she classified creations under several categories, including the "Alfisol" (Riftwolves), "Humus" (Durin), and "Cretaceus" (Albedo)." from the official wiki page. SO GOLD HAS THE POWER TO CREATE LIFEFORMS WITH KHEMIA. SHE CAN CREATE. and guess who else has the power to create? GOD?!
the second is rather generic and i would say they prayed to their MONARCHS or rather, the Ruler/leader of the eclipse dynasty. It was pretty common way back when in kingdoms where Kings would want to live forever, and be gods. maybe instead of praying to GOD they are praying to their LEADER whom the PRIESTS think will save their country, and thus bend the opinion of the masses towards these monarchs. Now, whos the ruler?
ALBERICH:(in medieval German legend) the king of the dwarfs and guardian of the treasures of the Nibelungs. A KING of DWARFS. where do dwarves live? UNDERGROUND AND MINES. What else is underground and a mine? THE CHASM. the chasm has direct relations to khaenriah and khaenrian architecture. who carries the name ALBERICH? KAEYA and his family by extension.
this is a rough guess and im on 4 cups of coffee and its fkn 4 in the morning and im due a project today but here i am doing what exactly haha i hope im making sense
I think Abyss Lectors and Heralds are pure-blood citizens. The ones that did not transform into monsters, but were cursed with immortality. Like the one we meet in Enkanomiya, they have ordinary human forms, but they can transform into intimidating combat forms using the power of the abyss.
Their titles reflect their position in Abyss Order, which they assumed after the Cataclysm.
While Abyss Mages were transformed into hilichurls. In fact, they still are hilichurls, they're just fancily dressed.
"Then, the thread of all fates will be yours to be reweaved" - Dain
So later at some point we will try to defy the fate that Celestia has "scripted" for us. The story will go real crazy there
so is mean it had really high of chance that there is a war between the Teyvat, Abyss and Celestia in future right?
@@kyubi_toshiko ye
isnt it primordial one rather than celestia?
@@nerrick9602 no buddy, primordial one love human so ofc she wont against teyvat but maybe for the Abyss not. Mostly is Unknown God and the celestia gods.
I have a feeling The Tsaritsa will be the one to trigger the war
"the ginger summons a 3 headed loch ness ocean demon" LMFAOOOOO
Some of the best (mostly tragic) stories I've encountered was like watching a trainwreck in motion. You saw it coming, you braced for it but nothing could prepare you for actually witnessing it. Foreshadowing is a big part of good storytelling and with the amount I'm seeing from Genshin Impact I wouldn't be surprised if MiHoYo/Hoyoverse were to go with this route.
One thing I’ve always wondered is that we saved Paimon who was supposedly drowning near the coast. And in the opening cutscene of the game the Island of Time and Wind is shown to be closest to the coast. Coincidence? I think not. It shows even more proof that Paimon is somehow connected to the Island of Time and Wind and it’s God (who is supposedly Istaroth).
So you are saying "paimon is istaroth" right 🧐🧐
@@ayushgoud701 not necessarily. She could also be a shadow or a fragment of Istaroth.
Oh....
istaroth is not god of time, he's primordial.
But mihoyo said that Paimon isn’t the unknown god-
So, what if paimon is actually with them, not guiding the traveller but more like controlling him
I had a theory about that kinda: What if Paimon is a created by our sibling?
Sheesh
Aether must have been overdosing with copium to create paimon to give it some of his power
Or keep eye on aether
I like to think that Paimon allows us to control the travellers because the game's UI is called Paimon Menu
"Random sentence that no one will notice." I gotchu bro
My assumption is :- That the other twin who woke up earlier than us and who saw the destruction, they got scared of it and then both the twins tried to escape this world. However the sustainer knew the traveller is the one who can help them to secure the timeline. Since the twin knew about it, they couldn't have chosen them so they chose the other traveller ( the MC ). Now let's talk about Paimon. I think she is innocent. What my belief is, is that Paimon genuinely doesn't have any memories, she is just a guide created by Celestia to help the traveller and 'guide' them to take right actions for a favourable timeline. Paimon might think that she is taking action or that her thoughts are of her own free will but they are not. All things that seem natural to her are not, they are the instructions by Celestia, she was made for the sole purpose of guiding the traveller to take the right 'action' at the right 'time'. Now about Lumine, I think she genuinely wants to protect the Abyss and citizens of Khaenriah as she cannot just sit around and let the Gods of Celestia completely erase them. She feels 5he pain and wants to destroy Celestia for their incompetence and their wrong sense of justice and their ideology.
I'm with you. That is my general plot of that happened according to game so far. NOW WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPEN EXACTLY at Khaenri'ah 500 years ago because I still think Abyss was found after Khaenri'ah people are turn into monster bc of celestia.
Now if the game will make me choose if I should team up between Aether and Celestia, I would choose Aether, though.. if his ambition is to destroy the seven nations I wouldn't team up to anyone
Im with you! Specially about Paimon
@@swanaung8890 my idea is that the abyssal power existed before the actual abyss order, so Khaenri'ah did indeed find abyssal power and wanted to use it against Celestia. But then the when story happens, and the now Khaenri'ahns turned monsters create the abyss order. But i do agree that i don't think the abyss order existed before the cataclysm in Khaenri'ah. But also remember not all the monsters are from Khaenri'ah as there are other civilization which have been turned into monsters as well
There are some misunderstandings:
-Celestial gods cant travel in time
-Istaroth is the only one who can control time, she is not a celestial god, she is a shade of the Primordial One, and because controlling time is against the Heavenly Principles, she has to hide
-Khaenri'ah got attacked by Celestia, because humanity had the controll, which is against the Heavenly Principles
-Khaenri'ah had nothing to do with the Abyss before they got attacked
-Celestia cant controll the traveler, bc he is from another world, hence he is actually against the Heavenly Principles
Nah, man, it's only previous layer of same history. Look, in timeline 2 Celestia is just insensetive warmongers (trust me i'm russian i do know how insensetive warmongers looks like) so they just indescrimenately destroy Khaeria for everyone to wonder tf celestia doing. Celestia appears to be extreamly evil, but this is just plot twist. Celestia picked smaller evil out of 2 cataclysmic options. This way we will fight Celestia as enemy only to realise in the end that our views were missguided.
@@nierinmath7678 There is only one timeline, basically everything he says is a lie
This is the correct take.
I am pretty sure Khaenri'ah has some link to abyss even before Cataclysm . Inazuma was attacked by abyssal creatures at the same time Makoto joined the war .
I agree with all your points except the 2nd to the last one since I recall it was said that Rhinedottir/Gold made the monsters that eventually formed the Abyss Order after Khaenri'ah's destruction.
All of this kind of makes me wonder about Alice, Albedo said that she's a near omnipotent sorceress and during the Island event she knew that someone was saying something bad about her (it was Paimon). So I wonder if there are different timelines, then is Alice aware of it? She's quite possible very old and might have some Eris connections and maybe a connection to at least a few fallen civilizations, so is she trying to make sure everything follows the script? Or is she trying to throw things off? Or maybe she doesn't care about it?
Anyway this is a pretty cool theory, I've also kind of wondered (mostly as a joke) if there's a time loop, which is why both siblings are the canon traveler and abyss sibling. Because each loop as a different sibling so both might have gone through this journey hundreds of time but the sibling we chose is the final version of the journey.
Well Alice is part of the Hexenzirkel as a recent event showed soo…
I’ll see if I can come up with my own theory, now that I’ve found Dainsleif’s Introduction.
“The confluence between the past and future.”
Confluence is defined as either the junction of two rivers, or a merging. If the past and future are considered as two separate rivers, and are somehow merging, Wei is on to something.
“The original calamity had been overturned, yet the island in the sky set the earth to burn.”
Now here is where I have different ideas. Somehow, the original calamity was overturned. AND YET, the island in the sky, Celestia as the Archon’s call it, STILL set the earth to burn. Thus meaning, SOMEONE tried to stop Khaenri’ah (most likely) from burning, and yet Celestia still destroyed it! To top it off, they did everything they could to sweep it under the rug. Anyone that even gained a hint of what they did was destroyed, and even whole nations were ruined.
Now here’s a big what if. Our sibling says they already traveled the world once. What if they traveled the world BECAUSE of the destruction of Khaenri’ah, and was trying to find a way to stop it? What if Dainsleif was helping them? What if they actually did succeed, but Celestia still destroyed it?
“Chalk pursues Gold, in this time inopportune, the eclipse is swallowed by the crimson moon.”
Chalk and Gold. Where have we heard those two words before? That’s right. Albedo and Rhinedottir. For those that don’t know (spoilers), Rhinedottir’s last assignment for Albedo was to uncover the “truth and meaning of this world.”
Albedo is still attempting this mission using the Art of Khemia.
Whatever happened, or whatever Rhinedottir did in this time, most likely had a major impact to why Khaenri’ah fell.
Now we look at the next line. If you don’t know (spoilers), the Eclipse is referring to the Eclipse Dynasty, the ruling dynasty of Khaenri’ah. Whatever happened in this time, the crimson moon somehow LITERALLY SWALLOWED Khaenri’ah. How?
Rewatch the video: We will be reunited.
You can see the crimson moon in the background as literally everything is being sucked in. Interestingly, Sustainer of Heavenly Principles seems to be here as well.
“The future must atone for bygone mistakes, as the bond familiar falters and breaks- of the same blood, elders and the youth... Such is the cycle of the world, in truth.”
This is a lot to unpack. However, the future must atone for bygone mistakes makes me believe that what we’re doing is somehow atoning for the mistakes made in the past. Perhaps, we’re repairing the damage that had been caused. Bond familiar makes me think of our sibling. Of the same blood really makes me think of our sibling. Perhaps they faltered and broke, and we’re trying to save them. I feel we may have more info about this line in the future, but right now it still remains vague.
“Dain, what is that strand of blonde hair to you? Someone you must kill? Or the object of your penitence?”
This is in reference I believe to our final fight with Dain. This may be in reference to us. Are we someone he must kill, or will we be the reason he repents?
If he needs to repent, then what did he do?
Now, we just got the trailer for 2.6.
In this trailer we see a golden light of some sort and Dain, the husks, and the corrupted Hilichurls being affected. Yet, we’re not affected, and the Lecter isn’t.
For this, let’s think back on the word Eclipse, and also on the moon, the sun, and the earth.
Chalk. The essence of all life. The sun, we’ll let it represent Celestia. Khaenri’ah… the moon?
What is an eclipse? Well, there are two types. Lunar eclipse and solar eclipse.
At one point in time, ver. 1.1, the name of the Eclipse Dynasty was changed to Blacksun Dynasty. It was reverted again in 1.2.
A black sun occurs during a solar eclipse, when the moon completely blocks the sun.
Khaenri’ah is a nation where the “gods’ gaze does not fall.” Makes sense. If we think of Celestia as the sun, and Khaenri’ah as the moon, then when the sun is completely blocked by the moon, it symbolizes how, for just a moment, humanity can overpower Celestia.
At the same time, a lunar eclipse occurs when the moon is entirely hidden in the earths shadow from the sun. A time where Celestia completely overpowers Khaenri’ah.
And when would such a time occur? A crimson moon. A blood moon. A lunar eclipse takes place, and the moon turns red from the light of the sun. The opposite of a solar eclipse, where the moon blocks the sun completely.
In version 2.6, Dain and the ones wielding the Abyssal power is affected by a blinding gold light. The light of the sun, of Celestia. Why? Because they use the power of the moon. The antithesis of the sun. Under the light of Celestia, all beings wielding the power of the abyss are hurt, and it is during the blood crimson moon that Khaenri’ah fell.
Now, there was a secret message from the ruin guards in Dragonspine, stating that “For the nation, we can't forgo this skyborne power, but we failed.” They failed to obtain the pillar of Celestia that fell into Dragonspine. They wanted that pillar for something. The Abyss wanted it. What could be in The Chasm? Another pillar. What’s surrounding it? The power of the Abyss. The Abyss wants the pillar of Celestia for some reason, and I’ll bet it has something to do with a lunar and solar eclipse. What if their aim is to start a solar eclipse, the opposite of the lunar eclipse, and create a black sun that blocks the power of Celestia completely?
We know that The Tsaritsa is attempting to rebel against Celestia. They’re obtaining the gnoses for that purpose. However, we have an example of that failing in the past. The lore from the tiara artifacts. When Dragonspine was still receiving blessings from Celestia, the people received a message from the gods saying they would have a hundred years of good fortune. The people were happy, but what would happen after those one hundred years? Celestia never answered. And so, the people questioned Celestia, and attempted to search for answers themselves, seeking out “antediluvian ruins and long-buried altars of sacrifice.” Antediluvian means before the flood. Ruins from before a flood? Now where does it look like a flood has occurred in the past? That’s right. Musk Reef, home to the portal to the Spiral Abyss.
They tried to seek answers from the Spiral Abyss, a place Celestia thought to have been “sealed off.”
Thus, they destroyed the Frostbearing Tree, likely the culprit that sent the people to the Abyss to get their answers (The Frostbearing Tree has been mentioned and acts like a sentient living being, and the people of the time received guidance and blessings from it).
Celestia obviously doesn’t like the Spiral Abyss, probably for good reason. It leads to The Abyss, or at least near it. Now, let’s look at the trailer again. We see a spiral of rocks leading downwards. Doesn’t that remind you of something? Oh yeah. The spiral Abyss spirals! More specifically, the Moon Spire!
The Abyssal Moon Spire is said to connect to the unknown, while the corridors connect worlds. If there’s a similar spiral in The Chasm, and Dain says that the Abyss are connected there, doesn’t that mean that whatever is going on, they’re trying to bring something into the Abyss? Perhaps, Celestia’s pillar?
…Well, my theory crafting brain is done. Good day.
that is actually such a good theory and I'm surprised more people haven't noticed it? everything makes sense, especially the lunar and solar eclipse and how they represent the abyss and celestia and all in all this has some very nice analysis of the events 💫
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Brilliant way in connecting every dots. Interesting theory
Holy shit
Holy crap, this needs to be pinned!
I'm never going to end this journey as traveler. I'm staying with my harem.
period
Can I order baizu's special mcsnake fillet burger
Ayo u speaker my language
Harem = life
Same lmao
Thats why Scaramouche asked about changing the past and it fits with Dottores sentence to Nahida “The skies over Teyvat are fake”.
This is going to be so damn emotional when we reach the end game. I'm already crying.
My wallet is crying too
My storage is crying too
Phone temperature is crying too
in the Dainslief's quest she(abyss sibling) tells us that she has already travelled this world once, which means that she knows how the gods manipulated the timeline and kinda saved the world as you told, but this only shows how the abyss has some powers which defies celestia( thats something like how the sibling knows about the original timeline and also the timeline reset and how celestia manipulates everything thats in teyvat) and one of which may be knowing how the sibling knows what happened in the original timeline( the zombie apocalypse thingy)
which is why celestia is highly against abyss because their powers and abyssal powers do not match or let's say co-op and we might also assume that abyssal powers may have an upper hand over the celestial powers which celestia got to know about and is keeping the abyss in the mud for this, IDK udk no one knows now but for sure something fishy has been going on in their garden of gods
second is that
since the timeline was reset and merged with the original one and makoto dies in both the timeline, the sacred sakura tree was planted
Ei was in the euthymian plane and without her gnosis. so she might be only one in teyvat who felt that change in timeline from the original one and if this is the case, she might come up with some answers in the end-game story!
Wei told about khaenriah being outside the timeline, but think if the part which is outside the timeline is inside the eternal shogun's body where Ei meditates. And because the shogun was a puppet, programmed to never change which supports the thought that shogun is not affected by timeline changes no matter what(eternal=no changes caused by time), shows how she might have evaded the timeline shift done by istaroth
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dont take seriously :D
Ei still has her genosis 500 years ago
well from enkanomiya we now know that the primordial one was taken over by a second coming, i don't think we know for sure if the cataclysm and/or the wiping out of khaenriah after was during the primordial one's reign or during the second one's reign. maybe the "zombie apocalypse across teyvat" was planted by the second coming in the first place so they could reshape the world to whatever they wanted when they took over?
@@najmaht.a.1314 Enkanomiya sunk wayyyy before cataclysm ever happened so it is in the reign of the new celestia not the one with the primordial one.
Naturally when you have the power to control someday or another you'll try to get that power into execution. So I think they did want to rule over teyvat by overthrowing primordial one(phanes) and then began the timeline written or being written which is right now.
@@swanaung8890 what's the relation of gnosis and her time skipping. Ei gave away her gnosis to Miko and then went into meditation. And this all is after the cataclysm (makoto's death)
the primordial ones was the vishaps and the other ancient creatures that now lay low either deep underground/underwater or in the abyss.
my hunch told me that the abyss IS the primordial one (or at least had connection to them) and the Celestia came and took over.
This makes me wonder if the tsaritsa is from the original timeline. If the first timeline ended after everything got corrupted, and as dainsleif said in the chasm that only a celestial gods power can get rid of the curse, wouldn't she try to have a contingency plan for if the abyssal corruption got out of hand like it did in the first timeline? Idk, just spitballing here, but it really does make me curious, so please add your thoughts
We're just puppets in the hands of the system
That would explain in some extend, why she is collecting gnosis and power.
She is trying to collect all the troops to prepare for the worst.
Holy shit it all makes sense now. How can u come up with this shit and write it so comprehensively that layman's like me will understood easily? I mean, wow, we all thought Paimon must be Istaroth but now maybe she is just a familiar?
Because I spent 3 days refining a 3k word essay into something with simpler words 😩
@@_Wei thank you for your efforts
@@_Wei You're such an inspiration for making my puny brain understand and comprehend everything lol
@@_Wei you're always big brain wei. You're making the story more interesting and mysterious. I hope these theories are true. Mihoyo please...
This also explains why Traveller's sibling says: "I've already been through this journey" or something like that. The Traveller's sibling has been OUT of the timeline also when Khaneria was destroyed.
no she's been fucking awake for 500 years while aether was in a slumber.
@@ejokurirulezz Well I mean yeah that was what I was implying. She was awake obviously 💀
I think traveller got thrown into the current time, no way this dude has been sleeping on the beach for 500 years and no one notices.
Venti's friend, god of time is ded so we probably can't change time anymore
We can. In the main menu where PAIMON is the only one thing that moves :)
woah man this actually, makes a LOT of sense. considering honkai has already done the same, it wouldn't be a surprise if genshin did too. I always knew he meant something when he said "then, all threads of fate will be yours to REWEAVE" and it just got me thinking, what the hell do we reweave? This video is such a genius
💯
Man, I would love to come back to this video in about 5 years from now, when hopefully Genshin's story is finished. Just to know if any of these theories were correct.
Hopefully one day I can find this vid again and congratulate you and the people who were correct (maybe not in all the theories but for some).
Mihoyo confirmed last year that they'll stretch it into a 12y plan instead of 5
5:42 "Random sentence that no one would notice"
Now i have a very interesting theory:
What if its all a timeloop? What if aether's and lumine's gameplay is not actually two seperate timeline but actually is on a same timeline but just different times? Lumine travels the world the same way aether did since they are both guided by paimon, meets zhongli, venti and everyone and when she reaches the end of her journey, goes back in time and create khaenriah, the place gets destroyed and founded the abyss, and then aether wakes up and travels the world, recreate khaenriah and so on.
No Lumine is guided by Dain
@@lotuscabage4755 yeah ik it has a lot of holes but id like to imagine it like that
@@h3onyx587 so glad you said that
i'm curious about venti, he said something in his voice line
"ah traveler, we meet again! what? you don't remember me? allow me to join you on your quest ONCE AGAIN" i mean.. how- and why..
@@h3onyx587 i usually hate them use, unless they're really well created/the story is well written. If it's just a cheap way of making shitty lore i hate it, but sometimes when it can be good imo
I love stories where the timeline has to be tampered with to continue. This feels very exciting.
Me: What should I do with this book collection?
Wei: Give me that, I'm hungry!
5:11 I never cared about the fact they decided to make Paimon make us go around from the destination we wanted to check.
But after seeing this moment, I asked myself *Why can't Mihoyo/Hoyoverse teleport us without warning instead of making us go back as Paimon appears suggesting to explore that place later*
for once i thought it'll add realism to the game, but that doesn't seem to make sense either
@@aether7386 Yeah, the fact you can't just straight up go to Liyue after making a new account and only after doing some of the story is insane
Oh yeah, when mhy fixed the thing wherr we can jyst icebrige our way to inazuma, i tried ice bridging again but got teleported back when i was halfway to Inazuma.
lets just take a moment to appreciate Wei for making this easy to understand and concluding all the info into big brain plots
For a moment I thought you were referring to miboyos ceo
I still didn't understand it 🙃 lol
This is part it insane 5:10 ! it feels so true bcs if anyone remembers, when we just started the game and met paimon, she LITERALLY said (let's first meet with the Anemo Arcon and there's a reason WHYYYY!!)
"Show me that you are worthier than I to rescue her"
If this timeline thing is true, I could easily see the twist that Dainslaif is Aether from timeline 1
impossible, because then we would have to see adult lumine
@@RavFromYetti possible, not even the gods are perfect. There is a chance that Dainsleif knows about this, just like how Ei realised differences. He might came from the other timeline, so there is no adult Lumine
okay but either of the twins could be the traveller so that makes no sense
@@gin6222 well, Aether is the main protagonist, the main abys leader is Lumine
@@vargaerik9314 only depending on what you choose right?
What if the loading screen in the beginning, the "heavenly realm", is the way to different timelines. It has more than just one way. Everyone that played Mario or other adventure games knows that you cant pass a level without clearing it. Maybe its the same in genshin. When the game loads (loading files, etc.) There is no door. The door only appears ones the "loading" finished. But just like mentioned in the beginning, there are other ways aswell. The door prevents us to move forward and lumine always says that they are trapped here. In the opening scene paimon tells that the siblings wanted to leave and travel to another World. What if its just like in zelda. In zelda there are no different Worlds, but different timelines. Maybe the siblings wanted to fix the conflict between celestia and the abyss, but the unknown god didnt want it. Why? Because the "fix" to that is to restore the first timeline, where the abyss had all the Power.
But why would the solution be to give the abyss all the Power back? Because the didnt do something wrong. They gain all that Power just by develop themselfes.
But why would the siblings fix that Problem? I dont have to repeat, that the siblings arent like the people of teyvat. They can controll every Element, which also is shown by their accessories. The glowing in the armor and the earing represents the Element you selected. In the opening cutscene the armor and earing have glowed white. And the color white is a bundle of all colors together.
But what am I getting at now? Lumine means as much as light and aether means something like "the spread of light. So if iam not wrong, this proves that the siblings are a higher being. Maybe even higher than the primordial ones
bruhh
Yes, I’m pretty sure the siblings are like gods or something. They can travel to different worlds or maybe timelines and they have lived for very long.
@@eris91 i mean yeah they don't even have their orignal powers and yet they are considered so strong in tevyat
but where did they come from, why are they so powerful, and if they are from another world how are they able to resonate with teyvat’s elements?
there are only so many questions, and no answers
"random sentence that no one would notice"
us, who noticed: don't you dare to underestimate us
What if our abyss twin (Lumine) discovered the abyss power ? We might have to go back in time and perhaps stop our sibling discovering the abyss power. In Dainsleif’s introduction says “Dain what is the strand of blond hair to you ? Someone you must kill ? Or the object of your penitence ?” This blond hair person is the abyss twin, but why do you ask ? What hit me like a truck is the used words “kill” and “penitence”. Kill meaning ending someone’s life and penitence means to have pity of forgiveness on someone. So clearly Dain has to take an option either to end that person’s life or have pity for them or in another words to “save them”. Who Dain wants to save from the abyss?Lumine. This person is most definitely Lumine, he has pity for her and he wants to save her from the abyss. After all, he’s name Bough Keeper does mean to protect a branch of a tree or we can say to protect the timeline. He’s main duty is to save the timeline, he’s the fate himself like Aether. They both can re-weave the fate but only one person can go 500 years ago and save Teyvat. Why we might fight in the end, Dain wants to save Lumine while our current traveler might a different alternative at the end of the journey or maybe not. This fight will not only affect the timeline but also will affect the person they both care for; Lumine. That’s why there will be a fight between our traveler and Dain , it will be decided what will happen to Lumine’s fate. Of course, that I think if Aether manages to traveler 500 years ago this can end in two ways: Lumine understands and will NOT teach or inform the Khaenriah’s about it or she won’t accept our request and we will have to fight her to stop her and in the end well... I don’t really think I need to say it. This can theoretically be confirmed at the end of the Teyvat Chapter Trailer where Aether sits alone in a field full of (Lumine’s) favorite flower looking sad at his hand. it could indicate that something had happened to his sister. This is just a theory tho
This theory gets me thinking that maybe we will visit the PRE-cataclysm khanriah with all the advanced tech in an attempt to stop the cataclysm. I personally think that will be cooler than a region that is just a massive ruin with cubes and abyss monsters.
What if at some point we will get both to get the 100% of the story, the Khanriah before and what happend there (like Enkanomiyas ghosts) and the Khanriah after with some more clues to uncover
5:43 “random sentence that no one would notice” lmaoo
So, odd theory but this video inspired me.
What if, we are actually Paimon in the game. In the game, we aren’t playing from traveler’s pov, we’re playing from a zoomed out pov and if you go to the menu then Paimon appears. Also in the first cutscene when you choose your avatar, we seem to be looking at them from an outsider’s pov like we’re the god in front of them. So Paimon is the god and Paimon is the one controlling traveler like how you press a button and the basic attack happens, your elemental burst, dialogue, all this happens when you press the buttons on screen. So it’s like the traveler isn’t in control you (Paimon) is.
this is an underrated theory
then the mc wouldn't be mute in the dialogues. bad theory
@Theurgy
Yeah… my theory was mostly a joke but thanks
That's true, but then, why would she keep asking things about the lost sibling ?
The traveler sometimes talking makes sense with that theory tho, but then the entire storyline just drowns here, because without the search of our siblings, we aren't doing anything.
Considering Paimon isn't just anyone, wouldn't she be able to find answers herself at some point, since she should be controling us ? She would probably forget to ask so many questions about the sibling at some point because well... I think it's just the harder way to get answers about it and it takes much more time to do it this way, since no one ever wants to say anything to us
Also, thinking about it, why is Paimon telling us not to go to a certain area specifically when we want to, that doesn't make sense? (I almost died because of her 😩)
The main flaw in this theory is that Teyvat has a single timeline due to it being a bubble universe. This is confirmed by Ei's story quest. Ei did not know about the tree because she planted it. There was only one Ei ever, throughout its timeline. This alone tells us that timeline splitting isnt a thing in Teyvat, since if it was, the new Ei would immediately feel that the tree was always there as well. She didnt because her initial encounter hadnt happened yet.
yea and i don't understand one thing, was Wei referring istaroth as a celestial god??
@@prasoontripathi4179 yes
@@prasoontripathi4179 wasnt it stated that istaroth is a primordial god?
@@ieattacos68 no, the primordial one was the one who defeated the seven elemental dragons and istaroth (a shade of pmo) came a few millennia later
@@prasoontripathi4179 Istaroth is a shade of the primordial one (the primordial one = fanes and four shades, of which isteroth is one of them) were supplanted by celestia and the archons who came later.
youve helped me undertsand so much haha all ur theories make sense and i think i have a hang of it now
I just love how we treat genshin as if it were a real world thing and not just a game with infinite mysteries
This is a really nice theory that you made up. I almost believed in this theory but if this is true. It would be insane. But to be honest I have a feeling the traveler would get tired by all of this. Because he's/she's involved in so much shit
Honestly all they want to do is just go home. The moment they met their twin they were willing to leave Teyvat to its own problems just so they could go home.
The traveller is already tired of all this shit like in the beginning of Inazuma we can clearly see the difference in dialogue.
People : go there, do that plus this and... Maybe..... Like MAYBE ... We will let's you go search for your sibling.
The traveller: Wait wtf ??????
But they and up doing it anyway.
When we discover everything, I'll come back to this video... Hear my words!
me who doesn't play genish impact yet i know the characters and most of their backstory.Idk why but it's interesting to watch theories of this game from your channel...
Imagine if at some point in the story we get a quest where we play as our sibling recapping every key moment they experienced (perhaps some plot twists they encountered and bosses they faced).
And the quest could also provide sneak peaks of the remaining regions.
i need to replay the game soley for lore purposes. this game is so eerie now with all of this knowledge. Ive always gotten goosbumps when the screen turns red and paimon urges to not explore. this game is soooo creepy
I don't think paimon is in anyway keeping things from the traveler, i remember an old theory of paimon being a seelie. it is said that seelies will remember bits of their past lives if you follow them. Maybe this is why paimon remember where to go next since she'd know from her past live where to go at which point which is crucial to kind of "fix everything"
it's not only directions that she knows, but history, and items etc. plus she has name of the demons of ars goetia like every god entity (archon or not)
yeah, and it's said they had a form of fairy like appearance before and an otherworldly palace, that would explain where she goes when she's not in a cutscene
@@ejokurirulezz I think Paimon is like Gyoba - greatly diminished from what she used to be. Which is why she has a goetic name, but doesn't have much to show for it.
@@s3a.w Indeed. Paimon seems to have some sort of somebody-else-s-problem effect, similar to how adults in Sumeru do not believe in Aranara.
The only alternate explanation, is that people assume Paimon is like Oz the Raven, which does not have a "kind", because he is just Fishl's imagination made real.
The thing is , there is no original script to follow , cause cataclysm wasnt a thing in the original timeline , for the butterfly effect to not happen, u gotta make others believe that everything is happening according to the original timeline , like if u are dead in the original timeline and someone finds out you're dead , for the butterfly effect to not occour , u gotta pretend to be dead and let the journey do its thing , the cataclysm wasnt a thing and kanreiah wasnt destroyed in the original timeline so....the butterfly effect would occour and how would u have a script that doesn't exist
(Fellow steinsgate believer)
Can I ask what’s ur basis for believing that the cataclysm didn’t happen in the “original” timeline? I’m not trying to argue, I just don’t know a lot about the events that happen in the story.
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@@typh2630 idk if it happens or not in lore , cause its wei's theory about 2 timelines to figure out what's our journey, i was just trying to explain why it wouldnt work , it can, need a few changes to it ,he said that it was too late for the heavens to convert the outcome into something favorable cause 99% of the people have turned into monsters, even if they did retaliate and make a cataclysm happen , it wont be the same cataclysm as in the 2nd timeline because a lot of humans havent turned into monsters yet , only the people of kanreiah did , there being a difference , like killing the soldiers in ww2 isnt the same as going back and killing the soldiers in ww1 , there still is a good chance of ww2 happening ( a bit useless analogy sorry , you get it)
It wouldnt matter if cataclysm did happen in the end of timeline one , cause there's no way to replicate or bluff 99% of humans turing into monsters in the 2nd timeline, so the scripts wouldnt match eitherway
If they(heavens) did retaliate inbetween(like before 99% of humans turning into monsters) and failed in the 1st timeline , then its a different story , cause in the 2nd timeline , they did retaliate thus destruction of kanreiah , but we kind of dont know where these hilichurls are coming from , maybe humans are still converting into monsters and we are far away from 99% of humans converting into them , if thats the case , yes , his theory would make sense , meaning 99% humans converting into monster is still happening but the heavens have it under control somehow , and we are just mimicking other stuff(our journey)
Just something interesting I wanted to add (not sure if anybody has already suggested this), but I think this also may add up to the "sky is a hoax" thing that Scaramouche mentions. Thanks to Mona, we know for a fact that people's fates are written in the stars. By following the video's direction, perhaps the fact that Celestia decided to cut off the old timeline and create a new one to add in, messed up the people's supposed fates.
For example, maybe NPC 1 was supposed to have a smooth walk from point A to point B, but because of the new timeline, they suddenly meet their doom by falling off an unexpected ditch, something that was never supposed to happen. Perhaps because of this chaos, Celestia thought it fit to replace the original sky with a fake sky to prevent the madness from continuing, hence "the sky is a hoax."
this actually makes sense cause the anemo statue says that it is waiting for a noble soul to arrive so that the thousand winds can unfold a new story, plus the waypoints say that they are placed in a certain order, maybe it has some relation to this theory?
also "loom of fate", this term is found in traveler's story and is also the codeword for abyss' initial operation.
In travelers story, in game, there is something called "loom of fate", it's locked but I think that the story about loom of fate kinda fits your version
Out of all the lore videos, this is made most sense, easier to follow and funny. Truly a big brain move
i think the reason Ei remember there was no sakura tree was more because she has direct involvement with it instead of being out of the timeline, similar to how in MIB 3 J still remember K after Borris went to the past to kill young K cause J was there, and Ei was the one who planted the seed in future after all
Or it is all Makoto's plan, for Ei believe that she is the one who plant the seed...
@@MagiYellow Makoto basically set everything up for Ei but at you see in the story, Ei was still the one planted the seed down anyway
Maybe since she was in Khanreah (I forgot how to spell it) she was out of the “area” that was brought back in time to be saved. Maybe the Celestia gods brought all the regions but Khanreah so that the place known for having harmful ideals to gods would be “exterminated”. I dunno this is just how I’m thinking of it. Cause none of the regions we have unlocked (I think there are ruins in “modern” mondstadt but those were where Khanreah was) yet have visible damage or ruins from the war that happened 500 years ago. I’m not rlly good at getting ideas across so You’ll probably have a stroke reading this
Damm this man just did a gamer move and spoiled us at the same time. Impressive
"random sentence that no one would notice" well i noticed it
Imagine Dainsleif as weekly boss, woah- that'll be so awesome, I rlly want him to be playable. I love him sm, and we'll see him again on 2.6 I think WHICH IS AWESOME LETS GOOOO- have fun and progress till the end travelers!❤️
He will be playable but no one knows when.
@@RadioKilledVideo next 10 years
hard to say if u look he didnt had a vision nor used an elemental power all playable charecters had a vision
@Pixlegoul the mc being an exception dain will polly be a playable if he gets a vision like with scaramouhe
4:30 holy- Is that why all the leyline memories were all going: THE SHOGUN DISAPPEARED
dudeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Weren't they referring to makoto though? Indeed she "dissapear" by going to khaenriah secretly
@@lolwarrior2181 yeah they were right?
Holy shit
@@lolwarrior2181 oh, thanks for correcting me.
Wow. I actually believe this theory, it makes so much sense, and coming from a guy who doesn't read up on a lot of lore it really seems convincing.
why does this sound so sarcastic
Problem is that For someone who does read all the lore, this makes no sense
@@okastbloart8395 elaborate why?
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@@okastbloart8395 why?
Watching this gives a new understanding to the Abyss Twin's line at the end of the We Will Be Reunited quest about how they'll be reunited in time and how they've always had enough time.
So there’s no bad or good guy here we’re just being used by celestia to fix the timeline?
5:42
Did you _really_ think we wouldn't notice?
I came back to tell u that after wtaching the 3.6 livestream today, and getting a glimpse of nahida's act 2 story quest, that you theory has been proven, congradulations.
why so?
@@anshukun it's precisely on the part where he explained the theory of timeline combination.
The way you present this theory, it’s how I theorize how would Getter Robo would truly end: the past saved by the future. If you think about it, the original/past timeline of Getter Robo/Genshin witnessed the bad ending, and the new timeline’s future will make a good ending.
You and I.
Different directions, same goals.
From one fiction theorist to another.
Traveller: Re-weaves timeline.
Unknown god: We are in debt of you Traveller so here's 60 primo, take it or leave it.
This theory is very interesting and I think that it's quite plausible. On the other hand, why would all the gods of Teyvat ignore or even struggle to control/destroy these abyss powers that turned everyone into monsters? As far as I know lorewise the gods would have no problem ending a whole nation of monsters if they teamed up. Morax was able to kill other gods easily, I feel like it's pretty fair to assume and imagine that if he were to team up with the other 6 gods they would be able to end a couple thousand monsters.
And as of right now (2.7 event quest) we learnt that khaenri'ah engaged in a battle that took place on The Chasm's ground which led to the monsters being unable to make their way further into teyvat by the sacrifice of the electro Yaksha, bosacius, which led to the sealing of The Chasm. What are your thoughts on this? In your theory you state that celestia ended khaen'ria early in the timeline to prevent the spread, and yet somehow they still were spreading 500 years ago. Just doesn't add up.
Also, how exactly would Ei be able to just chase Makoto into the past like that? What were the other gods doing? If the unknown god needed help from us to "fix" the timeline, why wouldn't she allow us to travel with our sibling. Or why did our sibling turn evil in the first place and joined the abyss's side theoretically?
We know too little
"Think of it like a zombie apocalypse" Funnily enough, in Honkai Impact 3rd, the honkai power/energy can actually turn people into zombies and honkai beasts, such thing is called "Honkai cascade", a point of honkai infection of no return, where the person infected by honkai (and doesn't posses any honkai inmunology or can't simply control such power, or the power is too much) can turn into a lifeless being that only spreads the honkai by going against humanity, these people that are infected don't have any of their memories remain and they will simply attack any person nearby, obviously, there is people that can harness the Honkai, and they can avoid suffering a Honkai Infection in a Cascade level, basically Honkai can turn people into beasts/monsters with no self control of themselves or no memories (or they have such memories deep in their minds but they are already in a point of no return of honkai infection that, is better to end their misery)
Can someone tell me when exactly the Abyss was discovered/created? I had always assumed that it was made by Lumine after the Fall of Khaenriah but I've seen multiple people and within the canon story line impling it was made before even Khaenriah's existence. I'm sorry if I sound like an idiot I promise I read the lore I just never knew about this 😭.
I think no one knows the answer to this, only mihoyo/hoyoverse
My headcanon is that istaroth sister or one of the moon sister is the goddess of the abyss moon and She is like a berserker beast that need to be kept in check by the her sister
From all the world building theories I feel like the Abyss is just, there. Everything always comes in threes-- so it just makes sense where there's a deity, there's a devil. And in between them, something human. Honkai/abyssal energy needs something to counteract it.
i'm pretty sure the abyss has always been there. enkanomiya has existed since before The Primordial One and The Second One Who Came fought each other. The war betweent those 2 caused enkanomiya to fall into the dark sea, the abyss. also in enkanomiya the 3 towers we fixed in the three realm gathering event represent the three realms. Light(elemental) realm, Abyss realm, and Human realm. So i guess the abyss has always existed since the start, but perhaps the whole corrupting power was only discovered and used by khaenriahs?
Honkai energy.
Honkai energy cascade would cause zombification.
If it already existed long before, during the Dragon era, it's possible that no world are safe from Honkai.
But if it means that Abyss just got created when humans arrived means, Honkai kills humanity whenever they are.
Theres a theory in the anime, or show or whatever, how Venti had reverted time, and no one knew only hime, so meaning were doing it all over again, hence why Venti says "Ah Traveler, we meet again!"
So like- Lumine also went through all that shiz with Paimon then after she finished her journey she 're-weaved fate' again, that's why there's no canon traveler
Literally im watching this at the middle of the night and my mind exploded
Wow very interesting especially after the new Archon quest and the Wanderer ending quest where it’s kinda says you can try to change your fate but can you really 😮🤯
That all makes sense now. If I never helped neko and she never got her catto statue, just think about it. She would probably turn evil and cause another cataclysm 😔😔😔
So… does that mean if Aether was the sibling, did he met any unreleased waifus too or no?
No shit he did. He met the archons. He met everyone,
XD ah yes
oh my god
Sure, abyss waifus