Watch this before purchasing Shimano clipless pedals from AliExpress (PD-R7000)!
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- Опубликовано: 5 ноя 2019
- I suspect that I received a counterfeit from AliExpress. I am comparing AliExpress order vs. Amazon order. If I hear back from Shimano, I will give an update! Hopefully they'll take the ones that I am suspecting are counterfeits and do their assessment!
If you want to watch the bearings, watch this video starting at 3:15 (It's in Korean though): • *주의* 시마노 105 짝퉁페달이 유통 ...
1. Check the weight
2. Check for clicking
Camera: GoPro HERO8 Black
Other thoughts:
1. Model numbers on the manuals. PD-R7000 is fairly new.
AliExpress Model: UM-41W0A-001-00 (May, 2012)
Amazon Model: UM-41W0A-002-00 (Nov, 2017)
Great video, it helped a lot. I was about to buy a R7000 pair from Aliexpress and luckly I researched for testimonials from other cyclists who did the same and found this video. Thank you very much.
Your video helped me tremendously. Big thanks! I wonder if the reason why the real Shimano ones are heavier is because of the high quality ball bearings inside the pedals. Would be nice to see the ball bearings inside, but taking the pedals apart requires a special tool.
Thank you for this. Almost pulled the trigger on this one. The weight part was the best indication
I have genuine pedals which weigh 125g lol. A 3% difference in weight is no indication that they're fake; even Shimano themselves tell you that there is up to 5% weight variability either way. The only scam here is this video tbh
@@NeutralGenericUser so you’re suggesting the Ali Express pair were genuine and not counterfeit?
Great video, thanks for the info. Amazing how much of this counterfeit product is on ebay right now.
Thanks for posting this. Chanced across this video after searching for information on how to spot fake 105 pedals. Bought one of the imitations myself from a local platform which allows listings from mainland Chinese vendors, and its exactly as you described. Rust inside the spindle, lower quality/rough finish, no clicking when turning tension adjustment. Threads on mine didn't screw into the cranks as smoothly as the originals as well. That said they're pretty good imitations. Pretty hard to detect if you're a first time user since they technically work. However I guess the biggest clue is the price - if its too good to be true, beware!
How are your pedals holding up 1 year later? Have they lasted?
Also bought fake 105 pedals for a very cheap price. Spindle does not turn freely after a few months and rust started to appear on the expose metal axle. Decided to buy a pair of genius R8000 pedals. Be careful, there are many fake R8000 pedals too.
Thank you for this video, I just got some in amazon and was a bit worried it might be fake because even at the lowest tension its hard to remove the cleats. after watching this mine do click when adjusting so i guess it might just be because they are new.
All, I just heard back from Shimano Legal Dept and it was confirmed to be counterfeit. Save yourself the trouble and go shop at a local bike shop or a reputable on-line store!!!
Not surprised. When the price seems to good to be true, don't buy.
Did the Shimano company send you a new pedal instead of the fakes?
Because I am in the same situation and I will apply to Shimano for change.
100%. If something like the price is too good to be true, then common sense will tell you it's probably not.... Support your LBS so they will still be there down the track.
Counterfeit one with Shimano warranty card?
Thanks for the info it really helps!
Hard to differentiate when you buy online until it's too late to detect that those are counterfeit. Buying from shop does help but sometimes we are also not sure whether the shop source it from the right distributor. This happen at least in my place.
They actually look very similar. The big difference is gonna be the bearing quality on the axles.
Thank you so much, this helped me.
Big giveaway on the cleats is usually the axle centre line which was missing on the pair I bought from fleabay. Old saying, if it looks too good to be true it probably is.
Got a fake pair off EBay, 250 grams and no clicks. I thought it was odd they weighed 250, then found this video and returned them-thx
Good to know . Thanks
Been using the 105 pedals from aliexpress for 7 months now plenty of miles. No issues as yet still running smoothly.
how is it holding up?
Great video, unfortunately you lose some money on that but it shows the world were we need to deal @
are there any differences in cleats? i want to try the blue ones, but the original is too pricey to test
The depth of the drilling in to the spindle is different. The Amazon pair are shallow compared to the Ali Express. That would explain the weight difference.
I bought a fake shimano pedal R7000 which i rode about 2.000 km. Two problems that i had: the pivot that makes the back part move backwards in order to clip fell off from its fit, it's a pressfit pivot, not a threaded one (i don't know if it's the case in the orginal one). I managed to fix it tho by removing the pivot and adding some good quality glue into the role where it fits, no problem until now. The second problem that i still have is that it doesn't spin freely, my mecanic said that it's due to an internal rubber ring that prevents, dirty from coming in, he tried to make an internal spacer in order to make it spin correctly, but he couldn't do that cause it would not have enough space to lock the main thread. It's a pain in the all trying to clip when the pedal is always in a different position. The best thing is buying legit, unfortunately that's not possible for most of people.
I just checked mine. 125g each with the adjustment click. Genuine and same weight as pd-r8000 so absolutely no need to get those when there is no weight savings or increased performance. The rest of my bike is r8000 series except the pedals, and it will stay that way.
Hi, thanks for the video. Did you test both on your bike and compare the differences? Seems like you are getting R8000 weight on the counterfeit R7000.
do you know if the original get rusted(the screw area)after using? or anyone have encounter rusty issue with the their original pair?
The weight difference I believe is within tolerance.
The only evidence of fake is the clicking sound you get when adjusting the tension. And that's not conclusive.
I have boxed shimano PD-RS500 SPD-SL Pedals. Purchased from a reputable German bike shop . I tried two boxes. Out of the 4 pedals 3 click quite audibly and one was on the quiet side, but still clicked nicely.
So thanks for the video. I will check my order from Ali express carefully when it arrives. Purchased 105 PD R7000. Seller has excellent reviews, and answered my questions well. So I'm confident still they will be genuine.
Update. Seller on Aliexpress confirmed they are not genuine. More like replica or clone. Definition of "fake" in China is different to UK
Thank you for this video. I had found a pair of 105 pedals on aliexpress. I thought the price was a bit to cheap. Around 50 bucks. So I thought I'd better do some research first. Do these peddles had bearings or plastic bushings. It shouldn't take a lot of effort to turn the shaft out. And mabey the seals are also different or none at all
99 € in a cycling store in France actually....for original ones of course ! Just buy jerseys on Aliexpress don't buy handlebars, wheels , brakes or helmets, it's dangerous! thanks for your video
can u link store where you bought pedals ?
Have you tried using the counterfeit one? Does it work?
Still the question remains, which one is better? ;) The fake ones only 2 gr. heavier than Ultegra pedals. I´m impressed by the similarity of those products and interested how this could be. Doesn´t look easy to make such pedals. Maybe a try-out batch being illegaly sold, or a factory that lost a bid on this Shimano product. Good video. Thanks for making and I will take extra care purchasing in the future!
Indeed, I expected the knock-offs to be a lot more different that what's shown in the video. What I don't understand is the model year on the AlliExpress... 2012? I don't think Shimano had the R7000 in 2012.
2012 could have been a typo meant to have said 2021? Even though the 7000 range have been out longer than that? Counterfeits…. Grrrrr. Did yours last at least?
Does the tension adjustment works?
Very informative. The market is saturated with fake and fast moving items like Shimano cleats/pedals.
I'd rather spend a little more and buy from your reputable LBS for the genuine stuff.
Didn’t know they’re knocking off Shimano. I wonder if they’re also counterfeiting groupsets because I see good prices on those too.
Omg so true tho! I was thinking about buying ultegra groupset, cause it really was a bargain
Hello, do you still have this pedals? I bought one almost two years ago that I suspected at the time to be a fake but kept using it anyway. It was january last year, and there was little info on the internet about this fakes PD-R7000, but the weight matched though. This week I changed the worn out cleats to new ones, and found it difficult to clip in. Then I took it out for service and googled again about fake pedals and found your video. Every detail match, but the weight. The pair I have has a lot of play in the axial direction, the pedal can move about 5mm laterally on the axle. Could you please check this if you still have them?
Wow i had the same experience. I had real cleats already installed and found i couldnt clip in easily at all.
Can I still use the counterfeit one? Aliexpress won't let me refund. What is the negative thing about using the counterfeit one? Can I still service/regrease the counterfeit one just like the original one?
Have you already tried?
Please the most important is the store name... let us to know!!!!
Looks alright to me, altho Im using a genuine r7000 pedal, the replica looks well made, weighs less, and costs less.
I live in China and the seller I used stated they were a copy. Copies can be pretty good. When they wear out you try something different. It's cheap here. So much fake stuff but can be awesome. It's crazy really.
Buy legit, buy once.
Did you get your replacement from shimano?
Try Ali yellow cleats for the first time and broke.
So far we have only seen superficial differences. Is there a performance difference at all?
I would not trust the material. You never know what they have used. Pedals have to withstand a crazy amount of energy. Imagine a pedal breaking when you are sprinting really hard...
Thanks for your video. I bought some of these pedals on eBay. For Quiet a low price. Thought i had a good deal. As it turned out the seller had brought lots from China and selling them as original items. I was very disappointed when i opened the box to see Chinese writing on all the leaflets. I did the sound test and nothing. They went straight in the bin. Don't ever get any bike items from China very dangerous.
Mine click but look more like the ones you feel are counterfeit. Mine are still in the box. The letters you find on the items like RD are probably date codes. If mine didn't click I'd be nervous.
Steve Murray I shipped mine to Shimano’s legal department and they are assessing the pedals. They are going to get back to me. Maybe they have different versions for different countries?
@@theanglercrew7059 I paid $120 for mine, not that that would protect me. Was not wrapped in cellophane. Even good shops could get burned if somebody returns a fake. Actually I don't need mine I got an unexpected good deal on power pedals. The best news would be that both of yours are genuine.
good to know
I suspected that website is a big scam
12000km with these pedals from AliExpress no problem at all if is a copy or original I don’t know but the product is good quality and solid and I just paid $60 compare with $150 on Amazon or local bike shop $200 so if you on a budget these is a good option .
No it is not because it is fraud
@@cricanwa Basically everything is a copy of each other. Shimano makes the same pedals millions of times. Basically I would not mind the lack of the names printed on the product, I actually prefer to have no names on anything I buy from Aliexpress. None of my acoustic guitars have any stupid company name on them, they actually have my name instead!! and they were all ordered directly from Aliexpress factory direct. I hate names on products, I don't get paid for selling their name on my stuff so I ask the vendors on Aliexpress to put my name on them instead.
@@danfuerthgillis4483 This is idiotic
I buy from allyexpres and axel was bended. And they refuse to refund.
I personally think they are made for the Asian Market and not European our American Market.
Thing's are made in different countries. Personally I have no problems with the Ail ones.
look at the printinf of shimano 105 and arrows with + -.. there's smearing and misalligned for fake.. they got me one..
I’ve 100% fell victim to this before.
Have you tried using it?
Did anybody hear back from Shimano on these? I found the video a day after I ordered and when they arrived Aliexpress denied the counterfeit claim. I'm hoping I might still be able to get a refund if I can get a statement from Shimano but don't know who to contact.
Gractus I just received an e-mail today. This is what I received “As our engineers are still reviewing your PD-R7000 pedals, we are sending you a replacement of the pedals as goodwill.
Thank you for being our loyal customer.”
I will update as soon as I hear back again.
@@cyko6123 That's awesome, very nice of Shimano to do that for you. I imagine they probably don't want to give out free replacements to everyone though. Hopefully once they have inspected your pedal they can make a statement on the counterfeits in general and the rest of us can get an Aliexpress refund.
@@cyko6123 hey, is there any update?
Untunk H.P Yes. It was determined to be counterfeit. Shimano sent me new pedals (I was very thankful).
Untunk H.P I ended up hearing back from Shimano, they didn’t offer to replace the pedals but they did confirm them to be fake so I was able to do a charge back with my bank with that statement.
Did shimano road give you a replacement?
Yes they did! I was very thankful.
@@cyko6123 I am going through the exact same thing. Can I ask what did you tell them. Greatly appreciated.
Bro you could’ve bought some ultegras for wut you paid for those two
Even when you compare the 2 products side by side we can’t draw any conclusion.
How did you know originally it was a counterfeit without the comparison? What was your claim to the seller to get your money back?
I hope you didn’t sell the ‘counterfeit’ one back on eBay because it’s a crime 🤑
Just received these from Aliexpress and yes they are for the Asian market and yes they are ORIGINAL for 90$ Canadian with 2 sets of the foot clips. They are for the Asian market but they do click on the tension screw as legit ones and no rust on the hex heads.
2 sets of cleats would have screamed fake to me unless they were packed in by mistake. Original cleats are like 11-16 dollars depending on where you get them from. So an extra pair screams fake to me, or a genuine packing error (thanks to whoever accidentally put a second pair in) How are yours doing a year later?
@@smartnothard2400 Hey, I am still on the originals, beat the hell out of them and still going, thousands of km's ridden. I live in pretty much flat land for 200 km so it's just winds here no climbs. So there is less wear on clipless cleats and they last longer if you time your approaches to intersections so you don't have to unclip. They are starting to look scuffed due to walking on them but they do not need to be replaced yet amazing quality on these things.
So the one from Amazon is the legit one
Nah, check out the model numbers at the bottom of the description. The Ali Express is just an older model (probably old stock). Based on this video, and his conclusion that a 3% difference in weight (which could easily happen among 2 genuine pedals from Shimano themselves) = fake makes me really suspicious. About the only thing more blatantly obvious that he could've done was to put an affiliate link.
@@NeutralGenericUser Except Shimano assessed the pedals, concluded they are fakes, and sent him real ones instead.
Thanks for the video. I bough mine from ebay seller Cowling cycle parts, so watch out for them. Also fake.
Wish I'd seen sooner! Just bought some from him. They arrived today. I emailed this video. Waiting a response. Did you challenge the seller / get a refund?? Thanks in advance.
@@mrparkuksmith1311 Yeah, they came up with an excuse that they were made for Asian market. Asked at Wiggle and they told me there is no such thing.
Luckily they send me post label to return them for full refund. Have send them off but no refund yet.
many buyer fall into the trap because many seller sell the fake on the same price as genuine (on cheaper spectrum sode). when few buyers that incapable of pointing out whether it is fake and post good review, it will be like snowball..other buyer will just follow thinking that the review is accurate.
QB could be for quarter backs? But American footballers don’t use bike shoes, do they?
Or
QB could also be quarter bar? 62.5g? 😆
Either way these look pretty legit until 3:33.
I would have removed the piece of card from the pedal, maybe that’s the 2-3 gram difference. Additionally, those scales are accurate to 5 grams (although they measure in 1 gram increments) so 123/4 would indicate 125 and 125/6 might indicate 130 on the scales, but when you weighed the pair they were not 260?
I’m curious to see by the end of this video…
I ended up here because I saw an ultegra pair of pedals on Ali Express for 65% under the ‘expected’ price but those don’t even say ultegra on the side of them however yours are either real, or proper fakes as they look identical. By proper I don’t mean legit. I mean proper counterfeit / copy / scam, fakes.
Cool vid and thanks for making it to make us all aware!
Bro, you bought from Aliexpress ofcourse its fake lmao
You've concluded that they're fake based on what evidence exactly? A 3% weight difference? Your over-usage of 'Amazon' rather than just saying you're comparing to a genuine part is sus.
Good to know . Thanks