Reacting to The Best "GLITCHES" in Super Smash Bros Melee

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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
  • Yes, Sakurai INTENTIONALLY broke Super Smash Bros Melee. Well, maybe he wouldn't call it broken, but did you know that phantoms are a real mechanic in the game? They're intended, along with these other techniques which many have called "glitches" in the past.
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Комментарии • 166

  • @SonicTheCutehog
    @SonicTheCutehog 2 года назад +998

    Funnily enough, phantom hits are worse in every game after Melee as Melee's phantom hits at least deal damage.

    • @CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe
      @CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe 2 года назад +14

      But it's still really fun to see

    • @christomanci
      @christomanci 2 года назад +12

      I feel like they happen more in melee though? Wish I could test it somehow.

    • @budgetcoinhunter
      @budgetcoinhunter 2 года назад +114

      They're only more noticeable in Melee, since you get the sound effect and damage, but no knockback. Starting in Brawl, a phantom has a much less flashy spark, and a very muted unique sound, so you're less likely to see when you get one.

    • @adamspeiser6449
      @adamspeiser6449 2 года назад +11

      Technically you're right, but phantom hits are actually a bit off from an actual hit, meaning they actual make more sense in the newer games.

    • @bonzjoe
      @bonzjoe 2 года назад +9

      @@adamspeiser6449 This is just false, it's the same mechanic except an overlap of .1 units instead of .01

  • @affrything
    @affrything 2 года назад +609

    V-Canceling is probably the airdodge version of “you were so close”

    • @ozzi9816
      @ozzi9816 Месяц назад +1

      Yeah agreed, it was probably added for casual flavor. If you’re in the kind of situation that allows for it to happen and you’re a casual player who hasn’t been practicing a game from 2001 for however many decades you’ll probably try to dodge out of it, and this way getting it just a little too late still gives you *something*

  • @radishhater1950
    @radishhater1950 2 года назад +354

    Its kinda funny when mario is hitting peach and peach is just like “Sweet!”

  • @c.k.harrower8672
    @c.k.harrower8672 2 года назад +246

    "There are no mistakes."
    -Master Oogway

  • @turndownforwalt
    @turndownforwalt 2 года назад +33

    Hey I’m in this

  • @krysys9703
    @krysys9703 2 года назад +243

    I always interpreted phantom hits as brushing a punch against someone’s cheek, like the impact of the punch didn’t occur but you did scratch their cheek with it
    But at the same time, should this be in a fast pace fighting game about spacing? No!

    • @Hugo_Prolovski
      @Hugo_Prolovski 2 года назад +1

      i think it makes for hype moments so im a fan of it.

    • @krysys9703
      @krysys9703 2 года назад +18

      @@Hugo_Prolovski I think it's more hype when an attack is barely dodged. It carries the same weight as a phantom hit for me, but I respect your opinion.

    • @Keno9988
      @Keno9988 2 года назад

      true

    • @krysys9703
      @krysys9703 2 года назад

    • @TheDemonChara
      @TheDemonChara 2 года назад +11

      Yeah you shouldn't be punished for perfectly spacing your attack

  • @ImCookieSparx
    @ImCookieSparx 2 года назад +66

    Honestly phantom rest is the worst thing you could possibly get next to a pk flash or knee.

  • @grasseater7374
    @grasseater7374 2 года назад +39

    yessir asumsaus, by far one of the best smash content creators out there!

  • @diegog1853
    @diegog1853 2 года назад +17

    I think that the worst thing about phantom hits it not the minute distance not being equal to zero, I mean it is so close it almost doesn't matter, but that, at least according to mew2king, if the first frame of your attack animation that connects with the oponent is a phantom hit, then the rest of the frames would not count as a normal hit, even if they are completely inside the oponent. So Marth's sword can technically cut you from side to side and still be a phantom hit.
    And since generally attacks move frame by frame towards the opponent, it ends up happening somewhat often that the first frame that connects is a phantom hit and the rest gets nullified.
    Although phantom rests in my opinion are still a mistake on the part of the player, the hitbox stays up for just one frame (so the previously stated doesn't apply), if you hit a phantom rest that would mean that your were almost completely out of your mark, essentially just means that everyones hurtbox is a little smaller by a tiny amount than usual and you should strive to hit that, and the game is simply notifying you that you almost got it, but still almost 100% out of where you needed to be.

  • @0PercentImagination
    @0PercentImagination 2 года назад +172

    I'm on the side of removing phantom hits from melee, just like removing tripping from brawl. Both are incredibly annoying (or devastating) when they happen to you. Also worth noting glancing blows in brawl and beyond don't do damage so its unlikely you'd notice them unless you were looking for it.

    • @trebmal587
      @trebmal587 2 года назад +33

      I just realised that the spark effect in Ultimate is not the game telling you "oh, you were SO close !" but "yeah the hitboxes connected, but not enough to my taste, so no hit.".
      Now, I hate it. It's not our fault if the hitboxes in smash games were always questionnable.

    • @mecurseyoumimikyu4701
      @mecurseyoumimikyu4701 2 года назад

      it's in ultimate and I think Nintendo did the right thing by getting rid of the damage and just have both players attack again as its fair its the first person to hit a button first to hit the other a lot like sudden death which as been in the game since the beginning.. so stop complaining also tripping in brawl was fine it just happened to much to often. They should of reduced it and kept it as a slight advantage if one person is moving about to much to keep the action on the fighting not running away like some people... hungry box (running away from a banjo) 🤣😅

    • @ZachAttack6089
      @ZachAttack6089 2 года назад +19

      @@mecurseyoumimikyu4701 First of all, please learn to use proper punctuation so that your comments are readable. Second, it's clear you don't know what you're talking about, since this is about phantom hits but you're arguing about clanking for some reason. Finally, tripping for no reason other than bad RNG is ridiculous and shouldn't be in any game ever.

    • @CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe
      @CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe 2 года назад +3

      But here's the thing it's a skill issue my guy not complete RNG like tripping is in Brawl

    • @shorthopdoublelasers4168
      @shorthopdoublelasers4168 2 года назад +2

      Except phantom hits don't just randomly happen unlike tripping.

  • @scarletvrgames568
    @scarletvrgames568 2 года назад +15

    AsumSaus is an amazing content creator. I'd love to see more of your reactions and opinions on his stuff

  • @matthewarroyo3747
    @matthewarroyo3747 2 года назад +56

    I wish there was someone who would make this quality of content and editing for ultimate tech videos😭

    • @captaineflowchapka5535
      @captaineflowchapka5535 2 года назад +7

      he use a lot of basicly hacks into the god to show the data
      and then do insane tier edit
      so it would be even harder to do on ultimate

  • @drunkausieproductions2190
    @drunkausieproductions2190 2 года назад +3

    AsumSaus is the channel he makes video essays about melee and the mechanics of melee finding explanations for bugs and things like that. 10 out of 10 editing he is hands down one of the best editors on this entire platform.

  • @lilycoffee112
    @lilycoffee112 2 года назад +9

    I was waiting for an AsumSaus reaction lol, great vid

  • @thedank6849
    @thedank6849 2 года назад +50

    I wouldnt mind watching hungrybox reacting to all of asumsaus' vids lol his reactions are great

  • @kmpartist
    @kmpartist 2 года назад +25

    Players: This game is unfinished
    Sakurai, hyperventilating copium: It's a hidden mechanic

  • @FarawayBrawlHacks
    @FarawayBrawlHacks 2 года назад +2

    Glancing Blows are a sick mechanic, and the mockery is precisely why I love it

  • @GamersWeekend
    @GamersWeekend 2 года назад +2

    Asum's videos are such high quality it's insane

  • @viviblue7277
    @viviblue7277 Год назад +1

    Changing phantoms to 5 MDUs seems good. Let’s do that.

  • @nothingnesslol9538
    @nothingnesslol9538 Год назад +1

    I acctually have an idea for why V cancelling is in the game.
    The devs thought that if you are just about to just about to jump to give just the SLIGHTEST benefit for doing it on such strict timing and gave 5% less knockback

  • @noranonalad7745
    @noranonalad7745 2 года назад +1

    Yooooo Asum Sauce’s videos are definitely reaction worthy, definitely think abt reacting all of them

  • @sselcho
    @sselcho 2 года назад +31

    Perfectly balanced as all things should be

  • @leafyniko3237
    @leafyniko3237 2 года назад +4

    Id love to see you react to more stuff from Asum his videos are incredible

  • @moronichybrid
    @moronichybrid 2 года назад +7

    Imagine a tournament where the only way to win is to have the least amount of damage. If someone caps at 999%, they automatically lose.
    No wobbling, though.

    • @angelomkwii2547
      @angelomkwii2547 2 года назад +1

      I read somewhere online that using Master Hand in a competitive tournament is legal, and since he can't die, the only way to beat him is to not lose any stocks, and do more damage to him than he does to you. Sounds like a pain in the ass to do, until you remember how PAINFULLY slow he is. I played an offline match against a CPU Master Hand using the glitch, using the tournament rules, and beat him EASILY. Pretty interesting stuff.

  • @Ninjo_
    @Ninjo_ 2 года назад +5

    Asumsaus is sick

  • @robinscompass5951
    @robinscompass5951 2 года назад +3

    Would really love to see hbox watch more asumsaus videos, his videos are so insanely high quality

  • @richardszoghy1907
    @richardszoghy1907 2 года назад +5

    AsumSaus is the goat of meelee... no... AsumSaus is the goat of Smash content

  • @readyorgormotti4695
    @readyorgormotti4695 2 года назад +1

    I like how the part that blew hbox's mind the hardest was just, basic 3d game design and how pixels mean very little in that context lmao

  • @diegomo1413
    @diegomo1413 Год назад

    5:49 aMSa: “hehe I’m gonna use that to beat mang0 at Big House someday”

  • @Cm0N.
    @Cm0N. Год назад

    It’s crazy that that phantom rest basically happened against Zain and hbox again, also at smash con

  • @Philostipher
    @Philostipher Год назад

    I feel like phantoms specifically fuck over puff more than any other character in the game, pretty much no other character can have a guaranteed kill move result in a death, outside of maybe Roy and Marths counter.

  • @crisXD2010
    @crisXD2010 2 года назад +1

    Nice video, would love to see more more reaction videos from asum saus his vids are so great!

  • @vouu__
    @vouu__ 2 года назад +1

    I get excited every time you post cause every video is 🔥🔥

  • @OGRScintilla
    @OGRScintilla 2 года назад

    AsumSaus is the GOAT and I’m happy to see you giving him the respect.

  • @DaRkLoRd-rc5yu
    @DaRkLoRd-rc5yu 2 года назад +1

    Phantoms are cool, it helps you learn the limit of your hitboxes by giving some form of feedback.

  • @dr.wolfy7072
    @dr.wolfy7072 Год назад

    Game: You're not 1 pixel away. You're 1/100 pixel away from Landing the hit, but here some damage but no knock back.

  • @Snyper077
    @Snyper077 2 года назад

    I love how fox spot-dodging makes him dab. 4:51

  • @legacytag
    @legacytag Год назад

    I'm pretty sure Ultimate has Glancing Blows too actually.
    They play a unique animation where sparks fly off the opponent you hit and no knockback is taken

  • @TSMSnation
    @TSMSnation 2 года назад

    I know hungry doesn't make games,but that unit thing is basically how any game works, like there's no other way.

  • @CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe
    @CodyTheBlackChickenSubscribe 2 года назад +2

    I'm actually really okay with Phantom hits I love seeing them
    Actually noticed this quite a lot in Smash 4 for whatever reason I haven't seen it that often an ultimate but I wonder if it's still there

    • @Robbie_Haruna
      @Robbie_Haruna Год назад

      They've been the same from Brawl onward where they're functionally the same as just barely whiffing an attack (and as such the visual sparks are much less noticeable.)

  • @shaydonwoolstenhulme4436
    @shaydonwoolstenhulme4436 2 года назад

    Hidden Tech that Sakurai puts in these games is one of the reasons I love them tho haha.

  • @HammMann
    @HammMann 2 года назад

    10:54 that's big coming from the guy that got saved at Evo because of them

  • @echospace7347
    @echospace7347 2 года назад +1

    6:19 LOL

  • @PomadaGaming
    @PomadaGaming 2 года назад +1

    HOLD ON. HOOOOOLD ON A MINUTE. REACTION. TO ASUMSAUS???!?!?!?! *WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO* literally best day of the week for me this is a glorious moment
    0:57 oh you fuckin know it

  • @susiehaltmann3342
    @susiehaltmann3342 6 месяцев назад

    Melee looks like its made of titanium. But if we look deep in-depth, it’s being held together by fucking scotch tape

  • @Mehoyboi
    @Mehoyboi 2 года назад

    ty for introducing me to comp smash

  • @MordiganE6
    @MordiganE6 2 года назад

    That vid was more scientific then anything on tv in the last few years.

  • @noobydanoobertin2551
    @noobydanoobertin2551 10 месяцев назад

    Melee nerfed kirby into ablivian and I hate them for it with a burning passion

  • @dusparr
    @dusparr 2 года назад

    MDU or IGU (in game units) are a staple in coding, as the only thing that defines distance is distance itself; they are axiomatic units

    • @dusparr
      @dusparr Год назад

      @hungrybox I assume this is a Bot

  • @jamesday8292
    @jamesday8292 2 года назад

    @Hungrybox v-cancelling does apply to puff they literally showed it in the video where puff survives. so yes it does apply. any character in melee can do v cancels.

  • @el-yerba-buena9678
    @el-yerba-buena9678 2 года назад

    Finally Hbox watched a Asumsaus videos

  • @amiralfrancais3700
    @amiralfrancais3700 2 года назад

    I didn't even know phantom hits existed even in ultimate. Now i know what those stupid little sparks are when i land a hit barely in the opponent but it counts as a miss. And i do way too much of those and i get punished almost every time for this. Great

    • @amiralfrancais3700
      @amiralfrancais3700 Год назад

      Yeah... Of course, an a half a year old video, on a comment that didn't even get a single like, and with a weird name. What an amazing feat of you "hungrybox" for even finding this comment, assuming a bot didn't find it for you

  • @exots3296
    @exots3296 2 года назад +1

    asumsaus is best smash related youtuber :D

  • @DDR846
    @DDR846 2 года назад

    good ol wombo combo never hurt nobody riiiiiight?

  • @flyingcatoflol4507
    @flyingcatoflol4507 2 года назад

    can't wait for the asumbox reacts to continue

  • @rutgercake9117
    @rutgercake9117 2 года назад

    You should really react to more of AsumSaus' videos, you have really great reactions to them

  • @ThatRealSly
    @ThatRealSly 2 года назад +1

    Video games sure are complicated

  • @PomadaGaming
    @PomadaGaming 2 года назад +1

    Oh boy

  • @sham_noway
    @sham_noway 2 года назад

    holy shit was that plok music in the intro

  • @Jampuzz
    @Jampuzz 2 года назад

    Id love to see hbox react to more asumsaus videos really cool video

  • @wawiator
    @wawiator Год назад +1

    Hbox be salty after that loss

  • @ChronoSquare
    @ChronoSquare 2 года назад

    "fun fact I learned to l cancel groom playing 64"
    De Ja Vu have I seen this video before???

  • @shortesnameofalltime
    @shortesnameofalltime 2 года назад +1

    Please react to more asumsaus video melee is the only smash game I haven’t played but I love his videos

  • @jmanzplan2074
    @jmanzplan2074 2 года назад +2

    ASUM SAUS VIDDDD

  • @99wins31
    @99wins31 2 года назад

    6:19 That’s what she said

  • @Matpit18
    @Matpit18 2 года назад

    Melee has to be the least finished Smash game ever made

  • @lilnut4021
    @lilnut4021 2 года назад

    I got an ad that was Team Liquid x Honda

  • @PychuOfficial
    @PychuOfficial 2 года назад +2

    What a very balanced game with no issues

  • @Mikau888
    @Mikau888 2 месяца назад

    Does anyone know the songs playing at the beginning and end of the video?

  • @dorianpaskowitz6559
    @dorianpaskowitz6559 2 года назад +1

    intentional! Why!?

  • @Hugo_Prolovski
    @Hugo_Prolovski 2 года назад

    v canceling will be meta relevant some day

  • @octavgg
    @octavgg 8 месяцев назад

    hold on.... IS THAT THE FUCKING PLOK BOXING GLOVE MUSIC AT THE START OF THE VIDEO????

  • @JFox4587
    @JFox4587 Год назад

    Why do people mind phantoms? Technically you missed your attack and still did damage. You’d rather just miss and not get damage? That makes no sense lol

  • @calsalitra4689
    @calsalitra4689 2 года назад +11

    11:08
    Phantom hits aren't even in the game to mock you for being SO close but not quite, since without the phantom hit mechanic, any hit that would qualify as a phantom hit would qualify as a full hit. A phantom hit is a hit that is perfectly spaced to be as far away from your opponent as physically possible, but the game rewards you for your effort with a "fuck you, phantom hit" even though it was, for all intents and purposes, a full hit. So every time you get a phantom hit? Just know that the game is fucking you over by stealing away a hit that should have absolutely been a full hit.

  • @NotQuartz
    @NotQuartz 2 года назад +2

    "It removes phantom hits entirely. And shit I'm down for that"

  • @mecurseyoumimikyu4701
    @mecurseyoumimikyu4701 2 года назад

    Fun fact you can do all of this in smash ultimate you know when your hits collide that's a phantom hit.. you can z cancel up to 3 times in ultimate or that's my record... I'm surprised everyone's just learning all this I knew pixels wasn't a thing since like 2004 in smash as it always changes and you can do stuff on your own TV to change pixels its all about spacing and "z canceling" you do as you get hit it reduces your knock back iv survived death on 350% before as you can z cancel as you hit the floor or a wall you just get up or drop back to normal stance...

  • @Rarest26
    @Rarest26 2 года назад

    I love how those videos are better than the actual game

  • @4xzx4
    @4xzx4 2 года назад

    Brawl had phantom hits but they dealt no damage.

  • @jostock_7nice9
    @jostock_7nice9 2 года назад

    I just notice that the house at the start says drug store XD

  • @RaulRuizH2O
    @RaulRuizH2O 2 года назад

    I do this since 2004...

  • @XFEINX
    @XFEINX 2 года назад

    Bro this game is sooooo buggued

  • @zelz3011
    @zelz3011 2 года назад

    2 seconds...
    Yes the Editing is amazing...
    L-Cancel...
    Falco...
    Yeah...
    What a hard video...
    ...

  • @GuichoSax
    @GuichoSax 2 года назад

    Heyo what's the outro song name here pls? :D

    • @ifyoureadthisv1
      @ifyoureadthisv1 2 года назад

      Persona 4 Dancing All Night - Specialist

  • @uknow5166
    @uknow5166 2 года назад +1

    Siuuuuuuuu for French and Belgian community

  • @MattMcConaha
    @MattMcConaha Год назад +1

    If a phantom happens because you barely hit them, then I think that's completely fine. Keep them. If you don't want phantoms, then just hit people better. If phantoms just randomly happened, then they would be objectively bad.

  • @eduardpeeterlemming
    @eduardpeeterlemming 2 года назад

    What I know about melee as non melee player: fox shine spam, dash dancing, spam everything you have

    • @Hugo_Prolovski
      @Hugo_Prolovski 2 года назад +1

      spam isnt really that good in melee and i think Ultimate for example is much more spamy

    • @shorthopdoublelasers4168
      @shorthopdoublelasers4168 2 года назад

      Congrats you just proved to us that you know nothing about melee!

  • @Merc1987
    @Merc1987 2 года назад

    There's a great video going into detail of smadh as a spectator sport with a brilliant look at one of my favourite sets. It's a bit old now, but I'd highly recommend! ruclips.net/video/8qxVDOc-oV8/видео.html

  • @Treeyp
    @Treeyp 2 года назад

    Soy fan de este wey UwU

  • @sadaoo
    @sadaoo 2 года назад

    Does anyone else hear the echo?

    • @sadaoo
      @sadaoo Год назад

      @hungrybox1.. PagMan REAL

    • @sadaoo
      @sadaoo Год назад

      also it doesnt even show the name anymore because of the new @ system lol

  • @joelpettersson4055
    @joelpettersson4055 Год назад

    Remove phantoms

  • @Espurna01
    @Espurna01 2 года назад

    Outro song?

  • @josephromualdo874
    @josephromualdo874 2 года назад

    What if that infamous 0.9 melee match was just a v-cancel?

  • @kirby_poyo
    @kirby_poyo 2 года назад

    We don't make mistakes
    We have happy accidentally

  • @Xxblade17
    @Xxblade17 2 года назад

    Lmao

  • @DDR846
    @DDR846 2 года назад

    😮

  • @LegitOreo64
    @LegitOreo64 2 года назад

    🦀

  • @SonicX-qi2se
    @SonicX-qi2se 2 года назад

    How bout watching his video on stupid advantages.

  • @tanxene
    @tanxene 2 года назад

    the thumbnails piss me off lately

  • @Q269
    @Q269 2 года назад +1

    This really shouldn't be uploaded to RUclips. You don't want to be a reaction tuber, do you?

  • @hugoclarke3284
    @hugoclarke3284 2 года назад

    Saying "on accident" is so cringe