The SC2 and Gaming X give the FTW3 a run for its money, making the FTW3 tough to justify at the price premium. It's still excellently engineered -- watch the full video for all details, or read the full review here: www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2900-evga-1080-ti-ftw3-review-vs-sc2-gaming-x-xtreme-aorus
You should note somewhere that if you pre-ordered this card you got it for $750. Which is the same price as the SC2 is now. Mine came today finally and personally I think the build quality alone is worth the cost, not to mention the thinness. Obviously I'm biased now having made the investment, but I think my point still stands that the value proposition for this card isn't as bleak as you seem to suggest. Speaking for myself, I certainly am not suffering any buyer's remorse, especially for $750.
Rin Chi he yeah I have 2 pre ordered also, though I upgraded my pre-order to the elite versions so still have a few weeks to wait, still at an equivalent £730 for the elite version each it's a nice saving over the full price of £829 per card, and only £30 more than a founder's.
I mostly agree, the higher priced cards with the technically better cooling are generally not about performance, but there is, at least on occasion, some difference in the variation of frame rates between the less expensive cards and those with higher priced cooling solutions. Of course we aren't really seeing that in the case of the AiB 1080Tis, most of which are "over-engineered" (EVGA just takes that to a new level :) ). Judging by the EVGA forums there was a lot of excitement for the 3-fan design, so that's reason enough for the FTW3. Me, I bought the SC2 largely because I'm over the "by the absolute best version" thing - and because I could get it a couple of weeks sooner.
Dusty That's the simplistic way of handling a cockup. Instead of trying to reason with people, they went off the reservation and also tossed ACX owners under the bus. From what I have seen, ACX owners are being penalized as much as $20- 50 on the resale market for EVGA's decision to not stand behind their product and do this spastic bit of over engineering, giving credence to a false narrative. PC gamers live on bad narratives to feed their fanboyism even between brands. I will think twice before buying EVGA again. They have engaged in clownass behavior.
You clearly haven't watched Buildzoid's PCB review on GN. It wasn't EVGA's fault that the ACX owner's cards have faulty stuff. It was their supplier's fault who did not do enough QC to ensure quality components and EVGA had no control over that.
I think he knows that. He is saying that releasing ICX was a knee-jerk reaction to the PR nightmare, and that they should have just told people to calm down instead of re-engineering the coolers, because now the people who have ACX are having a hard time selling them for as much. It's a silly argument, but that's what he's saying. It's tantamount to the old Titan X(p) owners throwing a temper tantrum because of the new Titan Xp release. I also find it strange that people fault EVGA for responding to the issue in a free market way, rather than blaming all the consumers who were needlessly freaking out about a few cards going pop. Companies are always going to improve thier products because they want to sell more stuff, they are going to release things when they feel it's the most profitable, and they could care less if you just bought the older model, it's a ridiculous exercise in solipsism to get all butt hurt about it.
You and buildziod are the ONLY reviewers I have ever seen that bother to list things like what voltage controller a card is using with its model number. Please don't stop, you guys have quickly become my favorite and most trusted tech channel.
I read techpowerup's reviews all the time, they useally say very little about power delivery components from what I have read by them. Do you have an example? I was just looking at their 1080 ti strix review and they do mention what voltage controller the card uses but that was all the info I could find on power delivery from their review.
There is no ti strix in the graphs, Which i believe is on par with this EVGA or even better(just by a slight slight margin).. I have one and it's really cool and quiet.. on OC load stable 2050 Mhz in 66-67 C with the fans cannot be heard within 50 cm distance
ASUS customer support is too shit for me to risk this kind of money on thier hardware. That's the other thing never said in these reviews, EVGA's support is second to none amongst the AIBs. They really go out of thier way to take care of thier customers and it's never difficult to get a real person on the phone. ASUS is the complete opposite, a total nightmare to deal with if something goes wrong with your components.
That's really good to hear. ASUS support might be better in EU since they are a British company. I build/service systems and have had to deal with them a number of times and it's always a headache. I think it's really important for people to speak about this kind of thing. The differences in the hardware seem like they shrink every generation, in the future I think customer satisfaction will virtually be the only differentiating factor with these types of purchases.
Interesting... My 1070 and 1080 FTW cards overclock better than my 1070 and 1080 SC cards did... but that could just be those cards, sample size is always a problem, you need a lot more than 1 or 2 cards to really test that... That being said, my 1080 FTW runs solid at 2.1GHz, my 1080 TI won't run at 2.0GHz without crashing... kinda disappointed at that...
More cores and hardware to stabilize, lower clock. That's generally how it works. It's easier to get 1060s up to those higher frequencies than 1080 Tis. In fact, in OC competitions, 1060s tend to place higher than 1080-class cards. FTW vs. SC doesn't really impact anything WRT overclocking. It's not like they're pulling "good OC" chips off the line for FTW. The difference is baseline boosting performance as dictated by chip quality more so than by PCB/VRM quality. VRM/PCB quality obviously matters, but there's a limit as to how much it helps unless you're doing hard mods + LN2 OCing.
#AskSteve So I bought a 1070 SC model and also a 1070 FTW model. The SC would clock up to 2138 but would slowly drop and sit around high 1900's during long Heaven benches or gaming sessions. My FTW would only boost to max 2114 but can hold mid 2000's during long benches or testing. So does buying the higher end card give you higher sustained clocks due to better card construction and better components and cooling or still just silicon lottery? Thanks for the great videos always hit that like before I start watching.
That behavior leads me to believe it's more likely a thermal constraint you're bumping against in the long test sessions. You could try validating that by blasting fans at 80% and seeing if the same behavior emerges!
agreed! and manufacturers that have heavier cards should add something to the whole package to help with gpu sag if i remember correctly one of the gigabyte cards from the 900 series gave a stick with it lol
There are a couple of card supports on the market that use a slot below the card rather then a stick... mnpctech.com/gpu-support-bracket/mnpctech-single-gpu-water-block-support-bracket-silver.html also amazon has a few just search for gpu support bracket. They are still a relatively new thing so it requires some digging to find them.
I am glad I bought the SC2 direct from EVGA for just under £707 here in the U.K. rather than wait for the FTW3. It's a great card as is this one and I see why people might buy it; an extra fan for $30 and lower temperatures isn't a bad deal IMO. However, my SC2 overclocks well (2,000 MHz on the core and 12 GHz for the VRAM), temperatures are good (75 C or less for most games) and it is quiet. I'm very pleased with it, especially being able to run all my games maxed out at 2560x1440 at 60 fps, many with DSR @ 4K and/or with SSAA; it's a nice and noticeable boost over my previous 1080 FTW even if overall temperatures are a little higher. Great review by the way.
as sorta a gaming enthusiast i like jayz reviews for their simplicity, but as a mechanical engineer i really love your reviews too....very thorough and its welcome and doesnt go unnoticed....keep on doin like you do, this is great stuff
don't forget, that the FTW3 has 2x8Pin and the SC2 only 1x8Pin +1x6Pin....because this cards run so cool, the card is going to be limited by the power, so the +30W that the FTW offers could help overclocking
Just picked up the SC2. Didn't want to wait for the FTW3. It doesn't go over 69 degrees overclocked, doesn't throttle, and is a straight up beast at 1440p.
@GamerNexus team, can you clarify exactly the set of thermal pad for all your viewers that revisited this great video of the 1080tiftw3, it is a little bit hard in South America because one pad is very expensive and it’s still a good card for gaming these days. Thanks in advance.
I'm 100% ok with paying a little extra for the coolest out of the box card with most leeway for fan noise/temps. This way I can keep my clocks high(because of more thermal headroom), without much fluctuation. That and I like the looks of it, and don't really care about another $30 when I'm already spending $700+.
This^^ My FTW3 showed up today from EVGA and I'm definitely pleased with it. FPS aside, the other factors (size, thermals, build quality, aesthetics) make the extra $30 trivial, and a no brainer choice if you are looking for a 1080TI AIB.
Yea, fair enough. Got lucky too...was going to eat the tax from my Amazon pre order(was going to be over $900), but Newegg popped up and I jumped on it. Got it like 30 seconds before they ran dry. Saved quite a bit of dough. Bought myself some custom sleeved PSU cables with it to tidy up my PC before the FTW3 arrives.
Nice! I treated myself to a case upgrade with mine, got a Cosmos 2, which also showed up today :D Gonna love re-building tonight. Also, the more I think about it, the more this video urks me. Don't get me wrong, GN is one of my favorite channels, and my bias here is evident since I chose this card, but virtually no credit is given in this video to EVGA, who not only managed to make the coolest and fastest AIB card, but also kept it to a 2 slot profile! I think that deserves more than the repeated and semi-dismissive claim that it's needlessly overbuilt or over engineered.
Gamers Nexus I really wish you would actually give us some footage of the card inside a case, powered up. Aesthetics are important to some of us and seeing it inside the case is the best way to size up how it's gonna look with all the lights on.
You should mention the SC "Black Edition" as a good buy as well. For this generation of NV cards, and for 1080Ti models, buy the cheapest aftermarket card for the best bang.
2:28 By drilling holes, they actually *removed* surface area. Pre-drill surface area: 2πr² [r is radius of drilled hole] Post-drill surface area: 2πt [t is thickness of the heatsink fins] Unless t is really high, post-drill area is lower. So, let's say r=1.0mm and t=0.5mm (a conservative estimate), then pre-drill area is 6mm² and post-drill is 3mm²
Greater exposure to airflow was the intent of that very brief section of the video. The air moves laterally through the finstack by making this change.
What I take away from this video (and article) is that I'm going for the SC2 (already available in my country) instead of waiting for the FTW3 (not yet released in my country). Thanks Gamers Nexus it's what I wanted to know ;-)
Jonny C yes and that is why I and you should probably do that too, go for the quietest+coolest (obviously a combination since of both since they correlate) cars available.
temps, noise and well, the individual chip and the quality of the other electrical components which usually wont matter unless you plan on keeping the card forever
Kerwin C A few years? Then no, these temp differences in the 1080ti cards are trivial. The only thing that will realistically reduce GPU lifetimes is overvoltage. And given the stable performance of these chips across the board, you wouldn't even need to increase the voltage. Pick whatever card appeals to you the most, or whatever brand you trust the most/has the best service.
I got my FTW3 for $750. I was lucky enough to get it during the second pre-order. I have no reason to over clock it since it runs up to 2ghz by itself. I love it! I have no regrets with my purchase. Big step up from my R9 390x. It is a very cool card even under full load.
congrats to EVGA! having the coolest card and still staying 2 slot size! I give them my respect and my business for things like this. it is just lazy engineering to make these massive heatsinks to try and get the edge on your competitor. especially manufacturers that produce performance motherboards that have the two slots for x16/x16 right next to each other and still come out with performance cards over 2 slots. shame on you! (MSI). egva for the win.
One thing you forget is that the evga card has a dual bios where the second bios has a higher power limit. Also the overbuilding of the card pcb means when it's put on water things will be better until the silicon lottery effect.
I guess the only main diff between SC2 and FTW3 would be the Ftw card has dual bios. Ftw draws 30w more power with a better power phase but that isnt a huge thing as the benches show. I guess if you like the 3 fan design better and want a dual bios pay the extra 30 bucks. I bet the SC black card is the best bang for your buck at $720. Great video Steve been waiting to see this reviewed.
I think they did that because in the past, when one fan failed, the card would overheat and stop working properly, so they decided to overkill the heat sinks, thermal pads and add another friend and make a much more bulky. In case any part fails, the others will compensate enough for the car to continue working over years. That my friend is a fantastic concept from a company and excellent work from engineers.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I have a question for you since this is the problem I am having as well I bought 980ti amp extreme from them and after replacing everything in my rig only thing that hasn't been replaced is the zotac card. I now have to buy a new GPU since Zotac customer service is horrible and want me to wait 5 weeks for them to test the card to see if it is bad. And my PC always freezes but only when I game. Has the Evga been a much better experience than one you had with zotac??
Hi there, I have owned 3 gpu's from EVGA and can honestly say have have never had a problem with any of them & I am pushing my current 980ti classified pretty hard, (awaiting the release of 1080ti Kingpin) and wait I do. Back to your issue though, sounds like it could be a psu problem.
Deceptive Answer ya I had a old 770 from evga that gave to my brother and his never had an issue. biggest reason going to buy 1080ti from Evga is because the customer service I hear and talked to are great. When you have an issue with their equipment seems like they respond to it fast to make sure you are taken care off. I will never buy from zotrash again. Plus I find it amazing how Evga cards are smaller but still cool just as good and perform just as well.
Just bought this sexy Over Engineered Beast for $235 to play 4k games, its awesome......Laughing about the $30 now, but was relevant point at the time.........Glad evga built this so awesome.......
They perfom the same until it gets to the powerlimit. i think the Aorus one got the highest with 150%? Thats a big factor since the card then runs with 2000-2050mhz (auto boost) and the other with the lower powerlimit strugle to get near the 2k mark.
Great review, in my case I do GPU rendering on 3ds max and already have 2 STRIX 1070's OC, and was planning on getting 2 1080 Ti's to complete my rig, ideally I wanted them to be strix as well but ASUS could not have a better idea than come out with a 2.5 slots card... so the profile for the card I'm looking for is: 2 slots, tall to be able to SLI for the casual gaming since the configuration on my mobo would put a high profile strix in between the 2 1080 ti's therefore an HB bridge would not be obstructed, also very good cooling in order to handle the heat generated from sandwiching all this cards together, so I was left with too little options, only this card and the ZOTAC amp edition.
Great Job on the information! You put alot of work into your video's ! Thanks for all the information. I guess the the only reason to buy this card over the SC2 is the looks .
Looking back on Steve say is the 30 dollars worth it for over engineering. Where the 3050 8gb comes out in 2022 with a 250 msrp. Evga offers 2 models. The 250 msrp model. And the 329 model. And the 329 model gives you slightly higher boost clock and power limit and a metal backplate! For 80 dollars more! So percentage wise its much higher going 250 to 330 versus 750 to 780. Not to mention even without percentages you were getting complete overkill for 30 dollars back in the day. Hopefully we can return to normal soon.
Really like the new thermocouple comparisons, really interesting to see a fair comparison across different cards. Have you considered implementing the same methodology but with the fans set to run at max speed at all times, to compare the maximum potential cooling of each card? As the stock profile of each card might be a source of variation? Or does running the cards under load pretty much guarantee the fan speed will be maxed out anyway?
Hello, I have a question for the EVGA GTX 1080 TI FTW3 edition where you showed stock speeds benchmark on 4k resolution on Ghost Recon Wildlands getting around 50-59.3 fps. My question is what kind of processor are you using? I am using a I5 6600K (STOCK speed) and on 1080p resolution while playing Wildlands I am getting around 40-60 fps. Would love to know if I need to upgrade my processor to a I7-6700k or a I7-7700K or if I need to just overclock my processor in order to see better results. Thank you!
I have a EVGA NVIDIA GTX 1070 8GB, do you think it's worth the upgrade to the EVGA NVIDIA SC2 11GB? I recently bought the 1070 so I can return it and now that I'm paid again, I have enough to pay the extra for the SC2 11GB model. I mostly play WoW, Hearthstone, Heroes of the Storm. Occasionally I'll play Guild Wars 1 and 2. Elder Scrolls Online. And lately Mass Effect Andromeda, though haven't tried it out on 4k yet. I have a 55 4k tv that I plan to put it on in the following days. My processor is a 8 core AMD FX 8300 3.3 GHz if that info helps any. I have 20 GB of ram, planning to upgrade that to 32GB. Thanks and look forward to the reply! You seem very knowledgeable and look forward to the feedback!
I hope Zotac can come out with a good thermal solution like this one as the amp extreme 1080 ti was leading in gaming benchmarks but had terrible vrm and ram temps
I can't believe how critical you were of these 1080tis considering that i'm missing all of the 1080tis I replaced with supposed upgrades ( 2070, 2080, 3070, 3080) 1080tis I owned MSI duke, EVGA FTW3, EVGA SC2, Zotac amp extreme
I ended up having to spend $1000 on the ftw card back when the prices skyrocketed and availability was next to zero. At 1440p I am now just looking at the new amd cards coming out. One thing to consider though, is this was a comparison to other 1080ti's. There has only been one or maybe two cards ever released that where built this crazy where you could skip a generation, and actually get by skipping the later generation where only some features where missing. All 1080ti's where brutes.
You mentioned that there were other options for cheaper cards if i didnt want to buy the sc2 that would be the same performance- which ones were you speaking to?
The more I watch these, the more I'm glad I got a FE and watercooled it. I'm running 2088 megahertz at load and 11900+ (/2) on the memory. Overall more expensive than the FTW considering my waterblock (and backplate, should have kept the stock), but I'm happy with the results.
hey, just curious as to what your max clocks were on air before watercooling it. I get crashing at 2012 @ 1.093 volts and wondering if water cooling will do anything besides mitigate noise.
Have you guys at Gamer Nexus ever tested an Inno3d card? Some of those have x4 fans and are almost always 3slots cards. My 970 has is one of those. I always wondered if the low temps was really thanks to that 4th little fan on the side.
It is kinda sad Nvidia has effectively nudered custom 3rd party cards. Sure it has been a slow death since Kepler, but even Maxwell had some, marginal, advantage. I am sure AIB partners are not too happy about this shift. Nvidia could effectively kill the AIB market by releasing a non blower card. IMO this is sad. Sad! EVGA has to actually put time and effort into designing this card, not for it to perform better, but just so they can charge more. I doubt the added margin is all that great anyways. Nvidia has really gone all nanny on us.
You're overblowing this. EVGA did put time into this card for it to perform better. You can push pascal to its limit with it, while keeping it cool, quiet, and since pascal thermal throttles early, the cooler you can keep it, the higher you can keep the clocks. So you get more performance. Cards like this give you about the best performance that can be had outside of watercooling...they have a place and are worth the money for people like me.
paskowitz, you have this BACKWARDS. NVidia designs the GPU then works with a fab to create the GPU physically. They figure out how to get the best performance based on voltage, frequency etc. They add in tools like dynamic voltage/frequency adjustments (GPU Boost) to approach the full potential of the chip, then cap the voltage to a point where you aren't creating cards that burn out in a couple months. *As you optimize the process you have less and less chance to benefit from higher overclocks. EVGA going crazy over-engineering a card is probably more about brand perception to sell more cards, but again failing to extract a lot more overclock is not NVidia "neutering" things. We can expect cards in the future to have less and less benefit to overdesigned coolers. Temperature is NOT the limiting factor.
also... as for NVidia simply releasing its own non-blower card. Sure, that can happen. It's not trivial to be competitive here though. They sell GPU's in BULK to Asus, MSI etc which can help diversify risk to NVidia themselves. There's also brand loyalty and other factors.
Right now I have my fans ramping up to 0 to 30% at 50c but that ends having the fans turn on and off frequently depending on the game. What is a good target to keep the card under?
nvidia limiting the voltage was a bad move, cause the market could be much more interesting. And the thermals, voltage and frequencie bullshit makes me miss the good old days when you just would point a frequency and the card would run at that frequency period. Overclocking gpus these days is such bullshit
$30 out of $750+ price is very little and especially with custom fan profile to pump lots of air through lets someone enhance the life and reliability of their components a bit. That was enough to convince me to fork over a measly $30 extra. The slightly larger size is irrelevant to me with my large Thermaltake Core X5 case. The tiny extra speed of the FTW3 is entirely irrelevant [to me].
Any idea what the difference between the FTW3 and the FTW3 DT is? Other than the clocks, they appear similar in every way, the DT is just a little cheaper.
I'm confused with your point about all partner cards being equal. The 1080 Ti Kingpin guarantees 2000+ MHz overclock. How does this not improve performance, that's 30 percent faster than the base clock.
I had an RX480 on an EK waterblock at 1450mhz now have an ASUS Strix GTX1080 Advanced edition with a 2200mhz core stock cooler. Never goes over 65c and is dead silent.
Can you mod to remove the voltage restriction and see how far you can OC this card? Don't know much about OC, just curious how good the cooler design is....
Since the EVGA 1080 ti FTW3's cooling is over engineered, and doesn't help it OC significantly more than any other 1080 ti, all due to Pascal's power limits, that means there's no point in watercooling this card either, right?
Gamers Nexus: Awesome, I am trying to decide between FTW3 and Strix OC. I have the $750 price for the FTW3 due to pre-order, but I don't like that it's the noisier of the high end cards. Jay reports the Strix can maintain 65C at very low noise levels. I like the depth in your reviews better though.
Low temps at low noise levels should be the benefit of a 2.5 slot card vs a 2 slot, so what Jay said makes sense. Trade-off of EVGA seems to be a little higher fan speed to maintain the same temps. At least we have choices.
I'm still torn on whether or not to buy this card, or wait for the SC2 hybrid, or just buy the SC now and throw my own water cooling on it... Currently have the 980ti water cooled by an H60 thanks to corsair's HG10. I feel like I would eventually will want to water cool it, or start off water cooled because the temps and noise is literally unbeatable...
Dude your filming set is really dusty, nothing wrong with it just found it funny seeing all the dust, I assume a fair bit is from your cat right? :) She is pretty sweet and I hope to see her again. Looking forward to the seeing the rest of the video, lol had o stop it to type this sorry.
I suppose a good reason to have the FTW3 would be if you were doing shunt mods because that superior VRM would barely be... Phased c: with the increased load.
I think nvidia are doing a great service to people by giving everyone that buys a 1080 ti a guarantee that their card is as good as any other 1080 ti. I've owned several high end nvidia cards over the last 5 or 6 years and not one of those cards overclocked nearly as well as what I've seen from tech reviewers.
The SC2 and Gaming X give the FTW3 a run for its money, making the FTW3 tough to justify at the price premium. It's still excellently engineered -- watch the full video for all details, or read the full review here: www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2900-evga-1080-ti-ftw3-review-vs-sc2-gaming-x-xtreme-aorus
saah dude
You should note somewhere that if you pre-ordered this card you got it for $750. Which is the same price as the SC2 is now. Mine came today finally and personally I think the build quality alone is worth the cost, not to mention the thinness. Obviously I'm biased now having made the investment, but I think my point still stands that the value proposition for this card isn't as bleak as you seem to suggest. Speaking for myself, I certainly am not suffering any buyer's remorse, especially for $750.
I wonder how likely we are to get a mod down the line to make better use of all that FTW3 engineering that's going mostly to waste.
Rin Chi he yeah I have 2 pre ordered also, though I upgraded my pre-order to the elite versions so still have a few weeks to wait, still at an equivalent £730 for the elite version each it's a nice saving over the full price of £829 per card, and only £30 more than a founder's.
I mostly agree, the higher priced cards with the technically better cooling are generally not about performance, but there is, at least on occasion, some difference in the variation of frame rates between the less expensive cards and those with higher priced cooling solutions. Of course we aren't really seeing that in the case of the AiB 1080Tis, most of which are "over-engineered" (EVGA just takes that to a new level :) ).
Judging by the EVGA forums there was a lot of excitement for the 3-fan design, so that's reason enough for the FTW3. Me, I bought the SC2 largely because I'm over the "by the absolute best version" thing - and because I could get it a couple of weeks sooner.
Some poor stressed out engineer at evga is running around sticking thermal pads on everything.
Dusty That's the simplistic way of handling a cockup. Instead of trying to reason with people, they went off the reservation and also tossed ACX owners under the bus. From what I have seen, ACX owners are being penalized as much as $20- 50 on the resale market for EVGA's decision to not stand behind their product and do this spastic bit of over engineering, giving credence to a false narrative. PC gamers live on bad narratives to feed their fanboyism even between brands.
I will think twice before buying EVGA again. They have engaged in clownass behavior.
You clearly haven't watched Buildzoid's PCB review on GN. It wasn't EVGA's fault that the ACX owner's cards have faulty stuff. It was their supplier's fault who did not do enough QC to ensure quality components and EVGA had no control over that.
I think he knows that. He is saying that releasing ICX was a knee-jerk reaction to the PR nightmare, and that they should have just told people to calm down instead of re-engineering the coolers, because now the people who have ACX are having a hard time selling them for as much. It's a silly argument, but that's what he's saying. It's tantamount to the old Titan X(p) owners throwing a temper tantrum because of the new Titan Xp release. I also find it strange that people fault EVGA for responding to the issue in a free market way, rather than blaming all the consumers who were needlessly freaking out about a few cards going pop. Companies are always going to improve thier products because they want to sell more stuff, they are going to release things when they feel it's the most profitable, and they could care less if you just bought the older model, it's a ridiculous exercise in solipsism to get all butt hurt about it.
overbuilt > underbuilt
I imagine when he cuts himself shaving he does the same..
You and buildziod are the ONLY reviewers I have ever seen that bother to list things like what voltage controller a card is using with its model number. Please don't stop, you guys have quickly become my favorite and most trusted tech channel.
If you like that kind of stuff techpowerup reviews show those too! Not erm saying Steve and Buildzoid isn't good. Just adding
I read techpowerup's reviews all the time, they useally say very little about power delivery components from what I have read by them. Do you have an example? I was just looking at their 1080 ti strix review and they do mention what voltage controller the card uses but that was all the info I could find on power delivery from their review.
Oh well yeah they don't really mention what the VRM are capable off and stuff but at least there's the voltage controller shown. You're right.
1% Performance increase?!?
Take my money! Don't need my 'old' 1080 Ti Strix anymore...
I have the 1050 Ti Strix
There is no ti strix in the graphs, Which i believe is on par with this EVGA or even better(just by a slight slight margin).. I have one and it's really cool and quiet.. on OC load stable 2050 Mhz in 66-67 C with the fans cannot be heard within 50 cm distance
ASUS customer support is too shit for me to risk this kind of money on thier hardware. That's the other thing never said in these reviews, EVGA's support is second to none amongst the AIBs. They really go out of thier way to take care of thier customers and it's never difficult to get a real person on the phone. ASUS is the complete opposite, a total nightmare to deal with if something goes wrong with your components.
That's really good to hear. ASUS support might be better in EU since they are a British company. I build/service systems and have had to deal with them a number of times and it's always a headache. I think it's really important for people to speak about this kind of thing. The differences in the hardware seem like they shrink every generation, in the future I think customer satisfaction will virtually be the only differentiating factor with these types of purchases.
Rin Chi I don't know where you hear it from, but Asus is a Taiwan company, it's full name is AsusTek.
Just bought one used for 500 bucks, pretty damn happy with it.
Interesting...
My 1070 and 1080 FTW cards overclock better than my 1070 and 1080 SC cards did... but that could just be those cards, sample size is always a problem, you need a lot more than 1 or 2 cards to really test that...
That being said, my 1080 FTW runs solid at 2.1GHz, my 1080 TI won't run at 2.0GHz without crashing... kinda disappointed at that...
Tech Deals yeah. Every card is different. My GTX 1070 FTW will only go +300mhz before experiencing very small artifacting. Maybe it's just my monitor.
More cores and hardware to stabilize, lower clock. That's generally how it works. It's easier to get 1060s up to those higher frequencies than 1080 Tis. In fact, in OC competitions, 1060s tend to place higher than 1080-class cards.
FTW vs. SC doesn't really impact anything WRT overclocking. It's not like they're pulling "good OC" chips off the line for FTW. The difference is baseline boosting performance as dictated by chip quality more so than by PCB/VRM quality. VRM/PCB quality obviously matters, but there's a limit as to how much it helps unless you're doing hard mods + LN2 OCing.
#AskSteve So I bought a 1070 SC model and also a 1070 FTW model. The SC would clock up to 2138 but would slowly drop and sit around high 1900's during long Heaven benches or gaming sessions. My FTW would only boost to max 2114 but can hold mid 2000's during long benches or testing. So does buying the higher end card give you higher sustained clocks due to better card construction and better components and cooling or still just silicon lottery? Thanks for the great videos always hit that like before I start watching.
That behavior leads me to believe it's more likely a thermal constraint you're bumping against in the long test sessions. You could try validating that by blasting fans at 80% and seeing if the same behavior emerges!
Tech Deals bad luck :/ i am running msi 1080ti gaming x at 2035 mhz + 5875 memory clock and been stable for 4 h in gaming + benchmarking for 2 h
one thing I'd like to see is card sag comparison between cards
agreed! and manufacturers that have heavier cards should add something to the whole package to help with gpu sag if i remember correctly one of the gigabyte cards from the 900 series gave a stick with it lol
that's just weight.
if you're concened about sag you should buy something to support the card or get a two-fan card and not a three-fan
The Hof cards used to come with sticks that hold up the cards. Not sure if they still do.
One thing i would love to see is this fucking card get released already. =[
There are a couple of card supports on the market that use a slot below the card rather then a stick...
mnpctech.com/gpu-support-bracket/mnpctech-single-gpu-water-block-support-bracket-silver.html
also amazon has a few just search for gpu support bracket.
They are still a relatively new thing so it requires some digging to find them.
I am glad I bought the SC2 direct from EVGA for just under £707 here in the U.K. rather than wait for the FTW3. It's a great card as is this one and I see why people might buy it; an extra fan for $30 and lower temperatures isn't a bad deal IMO. However, my SC2 overclocks well (2,000 MHz on the core and 12 GHz for the VRAM), temperatures are good (75 C or less for most games) and it is quiet. I'm very pleased with it, especially being able to run all my games maxed out at 2560x1440 at 60 fps, many with DSR @ 4K and/or with SSAA; it's a nice and noticeable boost over my previous 1080 FTW even if overall temperatures are a little higher.
Great review by the way.
Just purchased one for $300 on ebay, will be expecting it to last me for the next two years as I anticipate the release of RTX 5000 series.
as sorta a gaming enthusiast i like jayz reviews for their simplicity, but as a mechanical engineer i really love your reviews too....very thorough and its welcome and doesnt go unnoticed....keep on doin like you do, this is great stuff
don't forget, that the FTW3 has 2x8Pin and the SC2 only 1x8Pin +1x6Pin....because this cards run so cool, the card is going to be limited by the power, so the +30W that the FTW offers could help overclocking
Excellent review, as always! One nice feature of the FTW3 over the SC2 is the dual BIOS, which is definitely worth it for some people.
Woah the ammount of work, charts and deep analysis you guys come up with on any topic is nothing short of impressive.
Just picked up the SC2. Didn't want to wait for the FTW3. It doesn't go over 69 degrees overclocked, doesn't throttle, and is a straight up beast at 1440p.
Hat's off for the effort, let go the end results, the effort in the review and VRM analysis, well-done :).
@GamerNexus team, can you clarify exactly the set of thermal pad for all your viewers that revisited this great video of the 1080tiftw3, it is a little bit hard in South America because one pad is very expensive and it’s still a good card for gaming these days. Thanks in advance.
Thanks Gamers Nexus! I really feel good about my 1080 Ti SC2 purchase now (got it with the cheaper preorder price)
I'm 100% ok with paying a little extra for the coolest out of the box card with most leeway for fan noise/temps. This way I can keep my clocks high(because of more thermal headroom), without much fluctuation. That and I like the looks of it, and don't really care about another $30 when I'm already spending $700+.
This^^ My FTW3 showed up today from EVGA and I'm definitely pleased with it. FPS aside, the other factors (size, thermals, build quality, aesthetics) make the extra $30 trivial, and a no brainer choice if you are looking for a 1080TI AIB.
Damn I'm jelly...I have my preorder up on Newegg but it's not even got a chance of shipping till the 8th...
The wait is killing me.
Haha. Hey at least you got one, I know lots of folks who would kill to have an active pre-order. The scalpers have them on ebay for $1000....lol
Yea, fair enough. Got lucky too...was going to eat the tax from my Amazon pre order(was going to be over $900), but Newegg popped up and I jumped on it. Got it like 30 seconds before they ran dry. Saved quite a bit of dough. Bought myself some custom sleeved PSU cables with it to tidy up my PC before the FTW3 arrives.
Nice! I treated myself to a case upgrade with mine, got a Cosmos 2, which also showed up today :D Gonna love re-building tonight.
Also, the more I think about it, the more this video urks me. Don't get me wrong, GN is one of my favorite channels, and my bias here is evident since I chose this card, but virtually no credit is given in this video to EVGA, who not only managed to make the coolest and fastest AIB card, but also kept it to a 2 slot profile! I think that deserves more than the repeated and semi-dismissive claim that it's needlessly overbuilt or over engineered.
Gamers Nexus I really wish you would actually give us some footage of the card inside a case, powered up. Aesthetics are important to some of us and seeing it inside the case is the best way to size up how it's gonna look with all the lights on.
back when 780$ was one of the most expensive a card got how times have changed
Older thread, but accurate and good info. Subscribed. And update of the whole Nvidia 1080 line would be awesome.
You should mention the SC "Black Edition" as a good buy as well. For this generation of NV cards, and for 1080Ti models, buy the cheapest aftermarket card for the best bang.
Matt W The SC black is the exact same (cooling/thermals and clockspeeds) as sc2, only without 9 temp sensors.
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By drilling holes, they actually *removed* surface area.
Pre-drill surface area: 2πr² [r is radius of drilled hole]
Post-drill surface area: 2πt [t is thickness of the heatsink fins]
Unless t is really high, post-drill area is lower.
So, let's say r=1.0mm and t=0.5mm (a conservative estimate), then pre-drill area is 6mm² and post-drill is 3mm²
Greater exposure to airflow was the intent of that very brief section of the video. The air moves laterally through the finstack by making this change.
Yes, I agree. It would indeed provide greater airflow, in spite of lowering the surface area.
What I take away from this video (and article) is that I'm going for the SC2 (already available in my country) instead of waiting for the FTW3 (not yet released in my country).
Thanks Gamers Nexus it's what I wanted to know ;-)
Will wait for the 1080ti Classified this Summer. Thanks for this review, interesting to know.
Finally a 1080 Ti reviewed other than the Founders & Asus Strix edition!
We also reviewed the SC2, Gigabyte Xtreme, and MSI Gaming X, if non-ASUS & non-FE interest you!
so all 1080 Ti's are the same except fan noise. (1987Mhz avg clock)
pretty sure this is the most reliable one.
Jonny C yes and that is why I and you should probably do that too, go for the quietest+coolest (obviously a combination since of both since they correlate) cars available.
I have the rog strix oc.
temps, noise and well, the individual chip and the quality of the other electrical components which usually wont matter unless you plan on keeping the card forever
Kerwin C A few years? Then no, these temp differences in the 1080ti cards are trivial. The only thing that will realistically reduce GPU lifetimes is overvoltage. And given the stable performance of these chips across the board, you wouldn't even need to increase the voltage. Pick whatever card appeals to you the most, or whatever brand you trust the most/has the best service.
I'm still gaming on this today
I got my FTW3 for $750. I was lucky enough to get it during the second pre-order. I have no reason to over clock it since it runs up to 2ghz by itself. I love it! I have no regrets with my purchase. Big step up from my R9 390x. It is a very cool card even under full load.
Charles Keene have tour Temps for this card ever hit 70c to 75c?
congrats to EVGA! having the coolest card and still staying 2 slot size! I give them my respect and my business for things like this. it is just lazy engineering to make these massive heatsinks to try and get the edge on your competitor. especially manufacturers that produce performance motherboards that have the two slots for x16/x16 right next to each other and still come out with performance cards over 2 slots. shame on you! (MSI). egva for the win.
One thing you forget is that the evga card has a dual bios where the second bios has a higher power limit. Also the overbuilding of the card pcb means when it's put on water things will be better until the silicon lottery effect.
I guess the only main diff between SC2 and FTW3 would be the Ftw card has dual bios. Ftw draws 30w more power with a better power phase but that isnt a huge thing as the benches show. I guess if you like the 3 fan design better and want a dual bios pay the extra 30 bucks. I bet the SC black card is the best bang for your buck at $720. Great video Steve been waiting to see this reviewed.
Thanks Steve! Excited to get mine.
Here's hoping for Zotac reviews :P
Great presentation as always!
I think they did that because in the past, when one fan failed, the card would overheat and stop working properly, so they decided to overkill the heat sinks, thermal pads and add another friend and make a much more bulky. In case any part fails, the others will compensate enough for the car to continue working over years. That my friend is a fantastic concept from a company and excellent work from engineers.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Wenn das so weiter geht, dann kann bald das PC-Gehäuse in die Grafikkarte eingebaut werden :-) Mächtiges Teil. Danke für das Video!
Bitte!
You should also test the Zotac 1080 TI Amp Extreme.
Zewia how was it bad?
Why, it's the worst of the bunch ^^
I have a question for you since this is the problem I am having as well I bought 980ti amp extreme from them and after replacing everything in my rig only thing that hasn't been replaced is the zotac card. I now have to buy a new GPU since Zotac customer service is horrible and want me to wait 5 weeks for them to test the card to see if it is bad. And my PC always freezes but only when I game. Has the Evga been a much better experience than one you had with zotac??
Hi there, I have owned 3 gpu's from EVGA and can honestly say have have never had a problem with any of them & I am pushing my current 980ti classified pretty hard, (awaiting the release of 1080ti Kingpin) and wait I do. Back to your issue though, sounds like it could be a psu problem.
Deceptive Answer ya I had a old 770 from evga that gave to my brother and his never had an issue. biggest reason going to buy 1080ti from Evga is because the customer service I hear and talked to are great. When you have an issue with their equipment seems like they respond to it fast to make sure you are taken care off. I will never buy from zotrash again. Plus I find it amazing how Evga cards are smaller but still cool just as good and perform just as well.
I just wanna say thank you for uploading everything in 60fps, so nice
Just bought this sexy Over Engineered Beast for $235 to play 4k games, its awesome......Laughing about the $30 now, but was relevant point at the time.........Glad evga built this so awesome.......
0:02 Que the dust for the B-Roll!
Thanks for the info! I will wait for Volta.
They perfom the same until it gets to the powerlimit. i think the Aorus one got the highest with 150%? Thats a big factor since the card then runs with 2000-2050mhz (auto boost) and the other with the lower powerlimit strugle to get near the 2k mark.
well, i'm glad to own a 1080ti kingpin :D you do very nice videos, very informative! keep it up, subscribed also :)
You guys are insane, keep it up!
ur killing me with this 3 part video lmao !!!!! great video keep up the good work!
Great review, in my case I do GPU rendering on 3ds max and already have 2 STRIX 1070's OC, and was planning on getting 2 1080 Ti's to complete my rig, ideally I wanted them to be strix as well but ASUS could not have a better idea than come out with a 2.5 slots card... so the profile for the card I'm looking for is: 2 slots, tall to be able to SLI for the casual gaming since the configuration on my mobo would put a high profile strix in between the 2 1080 ti's therefore an HB bridge would not be obstructed, also very good cooling in order to handle the heat generated from sandwiching all this cards together, so I was left with too little options, only this card and the ZOTAC amp edition.
Great Job on the information! You put alot of work into your video's ! Thanks for all the information. I guess the the only reason to buy this card over the SC2 is the looks .
Looking back on Steve say is the 30 dollars worth it for over engineering. Where the 3050 8gb comes out in 2022 with a 250 msrp. Evga offers 2 models. The 250 msrp model. And the 329 model. And the 329 model gives you slightly higher boost clock and power limit and a metal backplate! For 80 dollars more! So percentage wise its much higher going 250 to 330 versus 750 to 780. Not to mention even without percentages you were getting complete overkill for 30 dollars back in the day. Hopefully we can return to normal soon.
awesome detailed content as always
Really like the new thermocouple comparisons, really interesting to see a fair comparison across different cards. Have you considered implementing the same methodology but with the fans set to run at max speed at all times, to compare the maximum potential cooling of each card? As the stock profile of each card might be a source of variation? Or does running the cards under load pretty much guarantee the fan speed will be maxed out anyway?
I've been waiting on this review for so long! Refresh refresh refresh BAM WATCH
I am so replacing my evga 1080 Sc with this. my back up system is about to become so OP lol
Hello, I have a question for the EVGA GTX 1080 TI FTW3 edition where you showed stock speeds benchmark on 4k resolution on Ghost Recon Wildlands getting around 50-59.3 fps. My question is what kind of processor are you using? I am using a I5 6600K (STOCK speed) and on 1080p resolution while playing Wildlands I am getting around 40-60 fps. Would love to know if I need to upgrade my processor to a I7-6700k or a I7-7700K or if I need to just overclock my processor in order to see better results.
Thank you!
Damn Blaise Pascal, why are you doing this?
Back from the grave!
I have a EVGA NVIDIA GTX 1070 8GB, do you think it's worth the upgrade to the EVGA NVIDIA SC2 11GB? I recently bought the 1070 so I can return it and now that I'm paid again, I have enough to pay the extra for the SC2 11GB model. I mostly play WoW, Hearthstone, Heroes of the Storm. Occasionally I'll play Guild Wars 1 and 2. Elder Scrolls Online. And lately Mass Effect Andromeda, though haven't tried it out on 4k yet. I have a 55 4k tv that I plan to put it on in the following days. My processor is a 8 core AMD FX 8300 3.3 GHz if that info helps any. I have 20 GB of ram, planning to upgrade that to 32GB. Thanks and look forward to the reply! You seem very knowledgeable and look forward to the feedback!
So when's the XFX RX580 GTR-S review coming? We saw it with the initial RX580 review, still waiting on it.
I've been waiting for this. :)
$780 is not expensive tbh, I know it's without tax but tax in the USA is so low. Here we pay €980 which is like $1080...
I hope Zotac can come out with a good thermal solution like this one as the amp extreme 1080 ti was leading in gaming benchmarks but had terrible vrm and ram temps
I can't believe how critical you were of these 1080tis considering that i'm missing all of the 1080tis I replaced with supposed upgrades ( 2070, 2080, 3070, 3080)
1080tis I owned MSI duke, EVGA FTW3, EVGA SC2, Zotac amp extreme
I ended up having to spend $1000 on the ftw card back when the prices skyrocketed and availability was next to zero. At 1440p I am now just looking at the new amd cards coming out. One thing to consider though, is this was a comparison to other 1080ti's. There has only been one or maybe two cards ever released that where built this crazy where you could skip a generation, and actually get by skipping the later generation where only some features where missing. All 1080ti's where brutes.
@@originalname9999 I know, I almost bought a ftw3 a few days ago for $200. The 1080ti was honestly and still is one of the GOATS
You mentioned that there were other options for cheaper cards if i didnt want to buy the sc2 that would be the same performance- which ones were you speaking to?
If you have so many duplicate parts, could you do a video on the silicon lottery? It think that would be cool to see.
I love your content. Thank you so much!
Well glad I picked up my MSI when I did. It hits 2100 rock solid 24/7 and is whisper quiet. Was gonna wait for this but got impatient.
The more I watch these, the more I'm glad I got a FE and watercooled it. I'm running 2088 megahertz at load and 11900+ (/2) on the memory. Overall more expensive than the FTW considering my waterblock (and backplate, should have kept the stock), but I'm happy with the results.
hey, just curious as to what your max clocks were on air before watercooling it. I get crashing at 2012 @ 1.093 volts and wondering if water cooling will do anything besides mitigate noise.
beretta9m2f sadly, within a week i water-cooled it, didn't do any benching. i stressed it to make sure it was ok, but didn't record anything.
Have you guys at Gamer Nexus ever tested an Inno3d card?
Some of those have x4 fans and are almost always 3slots cards.
My 970 has is one of those. I always wondered if the low temps was really thanks to that 4th little fan on the side.
It is kinda sad Nvidia has effectively nudered custom 3rd party cards. Sure it has been a slow death since Kepler, but even Maxwell had some, marginal, advantage. I am sure AIB partners are not too happy about this shift. Nvidia could effectively kill the AIB market by releasing a non blower card.
IMO this is sad. Sad! EVGA has to actually put time and effort into designing this card, not for it to perform better, but just so they can charge more. I doubt the added margin is all that great anyways. Nvidia has really gone all nanny on us.
You're overblowing this. EVGA did put time into this card for it to perform better. You can push pascal to its limit with it, while keeping it cool, quiet, and since pascal thermal throttles early, the cooler you can keep it, the higher you can keep the clocks. So you get more performance.
Cards like this give you about the best performance that can be had outside of watercooling...they have a place and are worth the money for people like me.
nudered, you say?
*neutered
paskowitz, you have this BACKWARDS. NVidia designs the GPU then works with a fab to create the GPU physically. They figure out how to get the best performance based on voltage, frequency etc.
They add in tools like dynamic voltage/frequency adjustments (GPU Boost) to approach the full potential of the chip, then cap the voltage to a point where you aren't creating cards that burn out in a couple months.
*As you optimize the process you have less and less chance to benefit from higher overclocks.
EVGA going crazy over-engineering a card is probably more about brand perception to sell more cards, but again failing to extract a lot more overclock is not NVidia "neutering" things. We can expect cards in the future to have less and less benefit to overdesigned coolers. Temperature is NOT the limiting factor.
also... as for NVidia simply releasing its own non-blower card. Sure, that can happen. It's not trivial to be competitive here though. They sell GPU's in BULK to Asus, MSI etc which can help diversify risk to NVidia themselves. There's also brand loyalty and other factors.
Any comparison between FTW3 and Asus Strix? I am leaning towards FTW3 but the Strix version also interests me.
Right now I have my fans ramping up to 0 to 30% at 50c but that ends having the fans turn on and off frequently depending on the game. What is a good target to keep the card under?
Awesome review. Pls can you add the Galax 1080ti HOF to list
i paid $900 "tehe" and im EXTREMELY HAPPY!
nvidia limiting the voltage was a bad move, cause the market could be much more interesting. And the thermals, voltage and frequencie bullshit makes me miss the good old days when you just would point a frequency and the card would run at that frequency period. Overclocking gpus these days is such bullshit
What about the pressure made on the thermal pads? Does it makes a difference?
For an expensive top tier card, I'd really expect to see some chip binning as well.
$30 out of $750+ price is very little and especially with custom fan profile to pump lots of air through lets someone enhance the life and reliability of their components a bit. That was enough to convince me to fork over a measly $30 extra. The slightly larger size is irrelevant to me with my large Thermaltake Core X5 case. The tiny extra speed of the FTW3 is entirely irrelevant [to me].
Thank you so much for your thorough reviews! Please test the Asus Strix model.
Seems like a Mercedes Benz, higher quality, but you can't drive faster, when there is a speed limit.
Any idea what the difference between the FTW3 and the FTW3 DT is? Other than the clocks, they appear similar in every way, the DT is just a little cheaper.
I like the look of the card. The fan side looks like an engine cylinder head.
I'm confused with your point about all partner cards being equal. The 1080 Ti Kingpin guarantees 2000+ MHz overclock. How does this not improve performance, that's 30 percent faster than the base clock.
Thanks to all these 1080ti's i was able to afford a good 1080 :-) Its like getting all new games! I was missing so much
Grizzly PC what you upgrade from?
I had an RX480 on an EK waterblock at 1450mhz now have an ASUS Strix GTX1080 Advanced edition with a 2200mhz core stock cooler. Never goes over 65c and is dead silent.
I just realized EVGA = VEGA
Trying to save for a 1080 ti from evga. So I can finally use Lumion for my architecture proyects that are on hold waiting for it.
Imagine that shroud in black chrome oh baby
Can you mod to remove the voltage restriction and see how far you can OC this card? Don't know much about OC, just curious how good the cooler design is....
Best card ever. $800 but is still sold used for €500+ 3 years later...
not sure if i am just being stupid but why isn't the strix 1080 ti offered as a comparative model
do I smell a 1080ti sli video with the two of these bad boys?
Also whats the power draw settings for the oc
which runs cooler; MSI GAMERX or FTW3?
Please do a review of the ASUS GTX 1080 Ti Strix! It also has 3 fans but it's 2,5 slots vs this one with a 2 slot design.
FTW3 has 2 BIOS chips which is a must have at any 1080Ti price point.
Since the EVGA 1080 ti FTW3's cooling is over engineered, and doesn't help it OC significantly more than any other 1080 ti, all due to Pascal's power limits, that means there's no point in watercooling this card either, right?
pam0077 I know this is old but, water cooling will allow a more silent running pc and lower temps
getting tired of testing 1080ti's yet steve? :P
I hope not, pls test the asus strix
That's what we try to do! It'd be boring to just do the gaming tests only. We have the Strix on the bench.
Gamers Nexus: Awesome, I am trying to decide between FTW3 and Strix OC. I have the $750 price for the FTW3 due to pre-order, but I don't like that it's the noisier of the high end cards. Jay reports the Strix can maintain 65C at very low noise levels. I like the depth in your reviews better though.
Low temps at low noise levels should be the benefit of a 2.5 slot card vs a 2 slot, so what Jay said makes sense. Trade-off of EVGA seems to be a little higher fan speed to maintain the same temps. At least we have choices.
Should I get the ftw3 or the sc2 or the strix 1080ti
I'm still torn on whether or not to buy this card, or wait for the SC2 hybrid, or just buy the SC now and throw my own water cooling on it... Currently have the 980ti water cooled by an H60 thanks to corsair's HG10. I feel like I would eventually will want to water cool it, or start off water cooled because the temps and noise is literally unbeatable...
I'm new to pc gaming but doesn't cooler temperature mean longer lifespan?
Dude your filming set is really dusty, nothing wrong with it just found it funny seeing all the dust, I assume a fair bit is from your cat right? :) She is pretty sweet and I hope to see her again. Looking forward to the seeing the rest of the video, lol had o stop it to type this sorry.
It's just a prop. It's not like it's flying around actively.
I figured that Steve I just was commenting that your filming set is dusty, that is all. :)
I suppose a good reason to have the FTW3 would be if you were doing shunt mods because that superior VRM would barely be... Phased c: with the increased load.
loved this video!
I think nvidia are doing a great service to people by giving everyone that buys a 1080 ti a guarantee that their card is as good as any other 1080 ti. I've owned several high end nvidia cards over the last 5 or 6 years and not one of those cards overclocked nearly as well as what I've seen from tech reviewers.