How to FIX the CRF300L in 5 Steps
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- The Honda CRF300L is a good dual sport for the money, but it's not perfect. There are some shortcomings, some have to do mods, and some issues that need to be addressed. And the most annoying thing about a lot of the problems is they could be fixed by Honda for almost no real cost. Silly little things that really hurt the bike and take so little effort to fix. So here's my list of 5 changes Honda could make to the CRF300L to make it go from good to GREAT.
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Only good thing about going to prison for three years is catching up on all of Jake’s content 😂😂😂 been watching since 2015 keep up the great content dude!!!!
This is one of the greatest comments I’ve ever got. Glad you’re out!
I appreciate it! I’ve had a few bikes but watching your how to videos and build series has been making want a project and I just got a 82 Yamaha xv920 yesterday!!! Been awhile since I’ve rode cause I sold all my bikes to pay for attorneys but I’m looking forward to it!!!
welcome back! hope everythings working out for you on the outs
@@Cooper391 thanks man it’s going great so far!
Still on the outs?
Your CRF300L build should be the goto for all new CRF300L owners. Maybe Honda could just put a link to your channel in the owners manual.
haha well they don't like me I think. They bring out all the other moto channels to press launches and other events. I'm over here doing a build on a new model giving them tons of sells but they won't respond to me. Reached out to their marketing people several times.
He spent 6grand he says. Can't tell me it's worth 11 to 12k bike
@TheGardenSnake
Not talking shit, but are the other channels doing hoodrat shit on the streets? I'm sure their PR department is extra anal compulsive. That said, I fully support and always endorse hoodrat shit on the streets when it comes to benign things like wheelies, stoppies, rolling smokey joes, etc.
I’m so happy I stumbled on your channel again…the memories of young me inspired to get a motorcycle by you and your hilarious antics on motorcycles with your friends and your ridiculous over the top personality is what made me get my first CB500X at 18 now I’m in my mid 20s with a conglomerate of different bikes in my garage all thanks to you and your friends I love you bro keep doing what you’re doing and being an fun inspiration to how amazing these vehicles can be
Hey jake, I have followed u since I was like 14 and now I have a ktm I am building at 23. Thanks for inspiring me man.
Agreed man. They need a "Western" Model that has stiffer springs and dampening for the average weight of Americans. Its dangerous when you take turns at speed with the wallowing. After the Rally Raid Level II suspension and kickstand its a perfect small bore dual sport. The Rally Model does have an LED headlight and its plenty bright. Such a stupid cost cutting move for the 300L since its also safer to be more visible to other riders and see better as the rider. The paper filter isnt too bad but wish they had a tool-less door as you mentioned. Defintely adding the CBR300 cams and 550 Performance tune witht eh intake tube. Its unjustifiable to make it so gutless on the highway for the American market where 80mph keeps you from getting run over.
Awesome video as always.
Got to do most of those to my 300L.
Appreciate it!
🏍💨
The rear shock is downright dangerous, not just just soft! The bike wallows from corner to corner on a twisting road at some speed, never settling properly before entering the next bend. I put over 60,000 km on a crf250l and the shock on that was markedly better than the 300L. It's insane that they didn't install a better shock. As it is, all the other improvements to handling they incorporated were made pointless by the poor action of the rear suspension. I didn't upgrade the suspension on the 250L, but I sure as hell upgraded the 300L with a K-Teck Shock and RaceTech fork Spring kit. Now it handles safely. Love the bike, but man the suspension is a joke!
You're right, it is literally so soft these should be recalled in the European market. This is insane.
I am in the market for one. Watched some of your videos so far. Now liked and subscribed.
Definitely been enjoying the build. 🤘🤘
You are spot on about the bike being mainly targeted at the Thai/SE asia market. Easily the most popular over 200cc bike period, nevermind just the dualsport/sumo segment. The KLX140/150 is super popular but the KLX250 is a distant 2nd, you can't get a WR or DRZ.......easily. Point being Honda doesn't really care what the rest of the world thinks. After SE Asia the rest of the worlds sales are a drop in the bucket, we get it in N/A and Europe as a slot filler in the lineup.
Jake never disappoints. *Boom
I love my 2022 Honda CRF 300L!
Hey Jake love the vids. Love from van Alstyne
Just to confirm the 250L's kickstand bolts up perfectly to the 300L's.
I like the ram mount whose whole purpose is it to hold the X3 rubber protector.
Originally I wanted the crf300l rally I loved the look of the bike and the price with the tech it came with but after reading reviews and seeing it needed more stuff done right at the start I decided to avoid it and find a old klx400 (technically a drz400 but green) and yes it is more modern and fuel injected but I’ve been very happy with the klx
I’m with you Jake, in Aus we are normal sized folk and suspension is a must No1. Ktech front and rear. No2 Side stand - free - use an old handlebar set, cut off 20mm and weld this to the existing stand No 3 550 Performance ECU and side air box mod. No 4 Exhaust upgrade plenty to choose from, I used MotoX on price alone. No 5 Unifilter high flow serviceable air filter and modify air intake tube. This bike is now awesome, more power, sounds like a thumper, handles brilliantly and loooooongggg service intervals.
Sounds like a solid set up. That is the thing, you can fix it up good for a few bux and some time.
$3K Aussie dollars. The basic investment wherever to you live is about Acquisition price + 30%
Suspension is the #1 thing which would make me recommend a Yamaha WR or Kawa KLR over this. Even putting on the Ohlins kits the CRF suspension leaves more to be desired. #2 is I wish it had just a little bit more highway power. I have a 250L so maybe it’s better on the 300L, but just being able to get to 90 instead of topping out at 80 would be great. Not that you need to go faster, but if the bike is not topping out at 80, that means it can get to 70-75 faster and have more pulling power at that speed. Aside from that the fuel gauge, maintenance intervals, and gear indicator on the 300L are all awesome and very user friendly
The ohlins kit is not enough? The race tech kit is great. Is the ohlins one an off the shelf item? The race tech one is set to the rider. Maybe that’s it. I’ve always been under the impression that ohlins was top notch.
Re the kickstand: with the stock 'saggy' shock, if you get on the bike with the kickstand down and swing your leg over, a taller kickstand would cause most people to go over on the right hand side because the kickstand would hit and throw their balance off. They're marketing to a world market with this bike, so some things, I think, are done to appeal to the largest audience. Oddly, when I replaced my shock with an aftermarket (not lowered), I don't find any issues with the kickstand. That whole unstable 'ness' putting it on the kickstand to me was really just the lack of rebound control on the shock. An aftermarket shock doesn't 'pogo' like the stock one, and doesn't seem to be an issue. When I first got my (Rally), I put a kickstand extender/pad on the bottom (about 5/8" taller) and found it unstable when parked on anything but flat ground (off-road), and promptly took the extender/pad off.
Re the headlight - just buy the Rally and you get a nice LED headlight... I agree that an LED headlight couldn't add that much cost to the bike.
Re HP, it's not all about the peak, for a bike like the CRF300L, to me, usable power is better than peak power. The power on the 300L is pretty usable. Again, targeted at a global market. Would I like more power, for sure, but how far do you go? I really liked the 390 Duke I had, but the 40ish HP from a 373cc engine, but I feel there was a tradeoff in reliability.
Re suspension - again, a global market and newer rider. The KLX300 gets better suspension from the factory, so you'd think Honda could have at least matched Kawasaki, but to me, there's a bunch of better things on the Honda than the Kawasaki, which would have bumped up the price. It would have been nice to have 2 options with a bump in price between - standard and 'enhanced' with better suspension costing a bit more money. Give people a choice. The reality is that for me, no matter what bike I'd have to upgrade the springs, so I'd be into any bike for some extra $. It was cheap to upgrade the shock to a YSS (around $320USD + shipping) (which included the correct rate spring).
I got a few questions..
1st ..do riding single cylinder is different from twin or Tripple or in4 ??
I have heard that twin and all bikes r usually easier to ride as they r less jerky
2nd do I need to b in higher gear in singles i mean i have been told staying in 5th or 6 gear gives more mileage with a minimum speed and throttle i have seen folks riding 40mph 5tg or 6 gear .. instead doing 80mph in 5th or 6th gear .. as a beginner i don't like to ride in higher gear in medium traffic to slow traffic
The silver lining to the suspension for me. If it was any better, I probably wouldn't waste money on upgrading it. But because it's so shoddy. I'm def getting some adjustable shocks and springs
Good point
How is that a silver lining it's under equipped?🤔
@@phantomshtter If it was equipped JUST enough, then the commenter would just have "Meh" suspension forever, but now they will have Great suspension.
I did not realize the 300 has a different kickstand. I added a wider (but not particularly thick) foot to the KS on my 250 Rally, and it borders on being too long, with the stock suspension. I have to be careful getting off that it has enough lean.
I want a 300 Super-moto just like what you were riding!
Jake
The problem with Honda is that they are so arrogant that they won't listen nor care.
The bike is made in Thailand and the Asian market dictates the design and as most of Asia are smaller lighter folk of 60 - 80 kg they won't change a thing.
The suspension issue would be crazy expensive, far better to do it at the dealer level and setup when the bikes hit the market, throw in springs weighted to average rider weight in the nation.
But it's still a compromise option vs the owner setting it up for them
just got my 300l Yesterday i rode it 200 miles home suspension felt fine to me but i only weigh 125 pounds and I really need to get an LED headlight
125! You’ll be great then haha.
The headlight makes the look of the bike so much better imo. I have it with sumowheels and short fender. The stock fender looks ugly as. I changed it for a acerbis supermoto one. You should try that or maybe cutting the one you have. Quick question for you. What gears are you running on the sumo set up. I'm running a 38t at the back but I'm considering going to the 40t.
I didn’t want to run an sm fender since it makes a weird gap between the headlight and the fender. I’m just running stock gearing in the sm setup. So technically it’s a bit shorter. I think it’s actually just fine.
There's TONS of these here in Thailand. Still can't decide if I want to buy one. People here can't comprehend depreciation, so you'll frequently see people asking new or real near new price for well used bikes. No one's buying at those asking prices, but that doesn't seem to inspire any epiphanies.
Changing the cams and intake may result in a slight power gain but also shift the peak power by 1000 rpm, along with alternating the torque curve, the CRF has a broad flat torque curve, this is more useful at lower speeds encountered off road.
The CRF is priced according to the equipment installed, $ 4000 all taxes and comprehensive insurance for a year included, here in Thailand. By no means is it a motocross bike with lights, it's an adequate all round dual purpose tailored to riders in the 175 pound or less range. The under stressed engine makes it reliable with long service intervals,
All the "mods" commonly discussed won’t alter the fact that it's heavy, the cheapest way to increase performance is to lower weight, this includes the rider, personally I lost 44 pounds after leaving North America, very noticeable performance upgrade at no cost.
Honda does make CRF 250 R which is lighter, significantly more powerful with good suspension etcetera, but also all the downsides of a highly stressed engine and retail price.
Pointing out riders need to lose weight instead of throwing money at "mods" gets immediate thumbed up by me.
If you look back at my results you’ll see the cams actually added a huge increase in bottom end power. Where it was at 12hp stock it’s now at 21hp.
0:50 I have Hotwired gear too... but I have a love/hate relationship at times. Usually what I run into is that you get a touch chilly on one setting, and too hot on the next setting up, so you have to keep cycling it up and down non stop. EDIT: And before anyone asks, I live near Buffalo and ride all year long. As long as there's no snow on the ground. The other day it was 20° F, and I had to keep cycling between low and medium on the pants/boots, and off/low on the jacket.
Oh yeah yeah I have the same thing. It's crazy how warm this stuff is. I never use high. The worst I rode in was just below freezing doing 70+mph for about 30 mins on the highway at night. I had the it in medium at most haha. But one thing I have done is to crack the jacket open a bit to balance it out. Now this is not the safest thing to do to be fair. And you kinda end up like something cooked in the microwave. Burning up and frozen at the same time. What would really be good is an auto temp sensor. Some of the high end gear has that.
@@TheGardenSnake I can ride down to about 15-20° before it's too cold to ride. As you said, when you need to use the "high" setting, you're simultaneously freezing and melting. I think I need better insulated gear over the liners so I can keep the temp lower.
I actually like the stock headlight look over the LED so I just wanna get a better bulb haha just got the bike and was thinking rental bars
I agree Hughie. It's been my experience that the reflector for a non-LED stock headlight doesn't work worth a damn with an aftermarket LED bulb. They're almost unusable on the dim setting and just average on bright.
@@doobielawson702 I was wondering if I should bother putting in an led bulb, I saw one for sale on srmoto I believe, like 90 or something tho so not exactly cheap
@@Hughie1987 in my experience, not worth it. I hardly ever ride at night tho.
@@doobielawson702 I also want the LED so I can be see better during the day not just at night, people don't pay attention enough as it is
@@Hughie1987 I can see your point on that. So many people on their phones while driving. My buddy had a 250L that came with Acerbis handguards. These guards had a circular LED light in each guard. They didn't provide much light like a headlight does, but they did make him a lot more visible. They do add extra wiring tho so there's that aspect.
I sold my heavy underpowered KLR 650 for a 100
Pound lighter KTM 390 adventure. Could not be happier
Honda dumbed down the CBR250R engine from 26hp to only 23hp on the CRF250L. The CBR300R 286cc engine is tuned 30.5hp and dumbed down to only 26.5hp on the CRF3000L Use the CBR300R ECU or an aftermarket standalone ECU with the CBR300R as base map. The rear shock needs a YSS rebound adjustable unit to replace the noSHOWa. That's it!
Hi jake! Love you
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The suspension is the killer for me on this bike. I’m about 6 feet and 240 lbs. the suspension is so soft that guys half my size look like they are bouncing on a pogo stick. Someone my size sits on in and you’re doing the Carolina squat
Here in Australia, i have the LED headlight on my crf 300L.
can you clutch up in third
Is it worth the upgrade from a 250l to a 300l, how much of a noticeable difference is there?
I’ve been on the 250l a few times here and there. But I don’t have enough time to make a good opinion on that.
Depends where you live and what you want to do. I rode both and personally the difference is not that big. I stayed with the 250....i would only recommend an upgrade if you are coming from MD38 (2012-2016), in this case i would suggest to drive a 300L and check if it´s worth for you to do the change. You can do the same mods to the 250 as well so.....there´s only the 36cc difference...
It's essentially a unicycle with a training wheel out front.
Welp, I've never owned a supermoto, but I've owned a handful of Jap road bikes in late models. Japan has a problem under-springing and under-damping most suspensions that end up in the USA market. I've had the opportunity to ride a Ducati and BMW and one or two other brands and suspensions were night and day more supple and controlled than the stuff from Japan. Exception would be the supersports and superbikes, which are a lot different than everything else they sell here. Yet even those aren't set up optimally in a lot of cases. But of course, Americans vary a lot in weight and height and one suspension configuration isn't going to cut it for everyone. None of this stuff matters buying a car or truck or SUV, but a rider's weight is a significant portion of a motorcycle and small changes with suspension make big differences.
Are you in N Texas? Near lake Lavon? I think I recognize that red barn, and that boat ramp.
I rode to that same boat ramp this past weekend!
On the Honda CRF300L it would have to have a ridgeback frame like a dirt bike with the option to have a 3.5+ gallon tank and have dual radiators for me to buy it.
Now the 3.5 gallon tank I’m with you. But what’s the advantage of a ridgeback frame and dual radiators? It’s not like this frame is weak and the engine doesn’t overheat.
@@TheGardenSnake I understand I just grew up with dual radiator. My thoughts are more coolant more cooling but I could be wrong. The ridgeback frame I only know of is the frame where you can have a 3.5+ gallon tank but again I don't know that's what I grew up with
Dr650se air filter access is the same but at least is foam.
It's like the drz400 has all the things you mentioned... Stock.
This bike is perfect, not need any fix
How cheap is it ?
The klx300 comes up winning in every comparison I've seen.
It certainly has some advantages. The thing I’m not sure of is how long can that engine go. Like the old crf250l was used by lots of people as around the world bikes. Itchy boots ran her 300 on a huge trip. This platform is very proven. Now the klx250/300 I just haven’t seen it used in that way. Maybe it’s fine but 🤷♂️.
I was between the KLX and the CRF. Went to look at both and determined the feel of the switches and look of the dash with a gear indicator were all better on the CRF. So I ended up buying it instead of the KLX. And the aftermarket is better for the CRF.
Why start with the 300L over the klx300? The klx has been proven to have better suspension from the get go.
Well I actually had a deposit on both but the crf showed up first. And it took my 6 months to get the crf. Kawi called me like another 5 months later (almost a year since my deposit) and said they were returning my deposit cuz they had no idea if or when they’d get a klx.
@@TheGardenSnake the 300L is a better looking bike for sure. The suspension is the main draw back. Your build is awesome.
Love your 300L vids...especially since you target the ''affordable'' end. . But there is finally a vid on youtube of someone finally bulldogging one of these. Check out ''Coffee Sleep Ride'' CRF300L First ride on .... omg
ok but what does this have to do with this video?
It’s funny because half of these complaints apply to most dual sports on the market… dr650 owner here and the stock suspension is awful.
Funny that Honda had well tought airbox on old xr650l
Air filter change is easy compared to a 2014 Honda valkyrie.
I don't get why bikes are so under sprung. Yeah I get target market, but even sitting under its own weight I feel like the DRZ400 was out of spec for sag. I wish I swapped the rear spring years ago, huge difference with moderate to aggressive riding.
Suspension is something in general that they need to get a grip with. Every bike these day is set up for a super light rider.
I believe small bikes are catered to 'smaller' riders i.e. in the asian market where, on average, people are shorter and lighter. Hence the softer suspension.
Honestly right now for me what would stop me from buying it is availability. 😂
They can’t even fill waitlist orders from nine months ago.
Yeah that is a problem. Took me half a year to get one.
I made the exact same modification with the exception of the head light and the computer , in europe because of the pollution regulation witch are the strictest in the world we have wide spectrum sonda lambda and computer with learning curve from the factory and it's pointless to make chip tuning and complicated ! no company does it !
Honda really dropped the ball with the suspension and power numbers. If they could get it even ~somewhat~ close to a 20 year old drz400, the 300l/rally would be the perfect dual sport.
And it’s so easy for them to get it there 🤷♂️
they cant make enough of these bikes in my area. none to buy lol
The 300 platform was marketed well and the masses had high hopes. A large percentage were met with disappointment. A small bump in power compared to a 250L and a suspension that was no better. After you get the bike out the door of the dealer selling at almost full MSRP, dealer fees, taxes and supporting mods to make this bike ready for true dual sporting, you are once again in that $9-$10k price range. The Facebook marketplace confirms the disappointment and also shows what kind of loss people are taking moving these on down the road.
Well I did pay $6k even out the door.
You don't think you're kind of encouraging this whole buying a new bike and fixing it thing? Because of the sweet modz
I don’t know. I like doing mods and would do them regardless 🤷♂️
Honda builds 20 million motorcycles/year. They can definitely add more premium features and still make a profit
If they did CBR cams, wouldn’t you pay for power but lose torque? Feels good for sumoto, but not for dual sports
No, did you ever see my results? Huge low end, that was the biggest gain.
@@TheGardenSnake Well then hell yah bring em on!
Damn I remember watching Supermoto Sundays years back - one of the channels that got me hooked on bikes 🤌🏻
Honestly, what they need to fix is the 5k piston slap, people call it the 5k rattle. I sold mine because of that, also hate the right leg radiator heat issue.
Well definitely not the piston. It’s the reed valve in the pair system. I have a video removing it. That engine has always made that noise and it’s not hurting anything. People have pitted the crf250l around the world making that noise. Did you really sell your bike from a noise you didn’t understand?
@@TheGardenSnake The owner of 550 performance told me that, You should talk with him, he is so smart mechanically and electrically. I also didn't like the heat on the right side but on a positive note the bike felt and rode way lighter than it really is.
@@TheGardenSnake I think im going to buy the KLX300sm, opinions??
@@TheGardenSnake I just bought a 2022 300 Rally. I had read about the 5K rattle before I got it. It had 610 miles on it when I bought it. I rode it about 20 miles my first ride and paid attention to the 5K rpm. I didn't notice anything with mine. Do they usually do it from brand new or does it kinda develop over time. I really like the bike first time out.
Rode the CRF300L not long ago offroad and it's crap. Way too soft suspension for someone over 90kg and it's non adjustable at all, nowhere near enough damping either. I have a 5'6, 70kg mate that also rode it and said even for his weight thing is too soft, suspension on this thing is horrid stock to the point where it's not usable on serious off road. HOWEVER that soft suspension makes it excellent for dealing with urban crap like potholes and kerbs etc, it cannot be ridden hard at all tho as it is stock. The CRF300L Rally on the other hand has beefed up and much stiffer suspension, and with the addition of some quality of life features and a windscreen + bigger fuel tank, it's a much much better adventure/offroad platform. I understand that your use case is for supermoto but i feel like the CRF's stock suspension is way too soft even for that, cannot be pushed hard at all especially under braking (which the stock brakes are ridiculously inadequate for too)
they could've used tapered roller bearings in the steering stem instead of ball bearings like a bicycle. honestly i'd never buy one everything on it is built as cheap as possible which is acceptable for a learner commuter bike but not for a dual sport especially not when it's trying to fill the shoes of bikes like the xr250, drz250, ttr250 and wr250 all of which had better quality components and lighter weight.
Wait wait, I’ve had the triples off. It has tapered roller bearings. But yeah it’s gonna have some cheap stuff. It’s under $6k.
@@TheGardenSnake nope ball bearings, all balls sell a kit to convert to tapered roller bearings. it's just another thing that needs upgrading that shouldn't on an 8k bike. and i don't believe it's "some things", almost everything has been built as cheap as possible steel brake and gear levers, cheap cables, rear suspension is basically a $20 shock absorber with a spring. pretty sad when a cheap 90's bike was built to a higher quality standard. they didn't go forward they went backwards.
Honda and Yamaha. Come on. We all want a low maintenance, 350-450 DUAL SPORT. Wr250r and CRF300L are just compromises for American market. Worldwide, the revenue difference just isn't worth it unfortunately.
If suzuki would rework the drz we’d have the “perfect” bike. 5 speed and carb is killing it.
@@TheGardenSnake definitely agree. For dual sport, it's pretty sad that personally the only options I would choose are the WR 250R and the DRZ. I own a T7, second bike is WR. Come on Yamaha you plenty of customers waiting. I'm not 20 anymore. I don't need a YZ 450 FX and there's more of us buying bikes than there are young racers
crf L line will never be "good", well i should maybe use "the best" but it kinda sounds weird in my head, anyway, there is no way honda will make performance upgrades to the crf L line because they make the crf RX line, with almost double the hp (47 hp from its 300cc engine) proper racing suspensions etc
yes its basically a motocross bike with lights, but, if honda sells the crf L for 5250$ and the crf RX for 9000$ you can see why they dont norrow the gap, it would be bad business
Yeah but those bikes are going for different things. Direct comparison doesn’t really work. One could literally go MX racing with a few mods. The other could ride around the world.
Boring as it may seem, I bought a new Drz400 last year. Yeah it needs another gear, and fuel injection would be nice although I’m cool with a carb. But it’s still better than these 300’s. More power, way better suspension and they weigh about the same. Weren’t you thinking of doing another Drz? Sell that Thai bike and do it.
nah…
Drz is still a very good bike in 2022. I like doing different things though. I guess I could see myself doing another drz but also 🤷♂️. At this point my crf is on par with a modded drz. Not quite as fast as mine but I’ve got some plans I’m about to do.
@@TheGardenSnake Your Crf is faster than a modded DRZ?
Nothing with mass production is an easy change dude
Surprised budget bikes and cars still offer dim, yellow halogen headlight. It’s a safety issue. Our eyes evolved to see at 5000 k sunlight not 3000-4500 k.
The KTM 390 adventure you get led headlight, TFT dash, adjustable suspension, TC, etc.
The KTM 390 adventure has 43 horsepower with the led headlight stock, TFT dash, adjustable suspension etc.
I'm kind of glad it didn't come with an led headlight because it looks ugly in my opinion
You're good, but I don't like the bike. I like Honda. It's that it's so small you should buy a scooter and save thousands of dollars and wear sandals instead of a helmet. After all your mods, all you can get is a power wheelie? Not even balance point? I'm sure it can, it's just I think an under powered supermoto is more dangerous in difficult riding situations. You need to be able to get up and go. I'm in the 450 or more crowd, but you teach me a lot. I'm open minded. Never Grom, I'd get a Honda Monkey and ride it through the woods though.
for me, i know it doesn't make any sense, but i just don't like honda, in general. i look at all their bikes, i watch all the reviews i can find, i look at the specs and the prices and whatnot, and i'm just completely turned off by them. they seem overpriced for what they are, and it seems like they survive on their reputation for reliability. but in reality the other big brands are every bit as reliable. i've never heard anything that would make me want to spend money on a honda. well, the one exception would be for the rebel 1100 because there's really nothing similar in that price range, particularly because of the DCT. don't get me wrong, i love shifting. i had a quick shifter on my tuono 660 and kind of hated it. i really love manual shifting. but the prospect of a cruiser with an automatic tranny just seems cool to me. i have no plans of ever owning a cruiser, but if i did, that's the one i would want. it's the one honda that actually seems like a great value.
and you have to know that they use the parts they use because they already have them. any time you see a situation where they could easily have used something else, it's because they already have that worse part in quantity, or they have a contract with a manufacturer to keep using it.
Watching here from the Philippines!
@themanoy66 likes your contents man!
He drives his trusty Honda 650 !
Soft suspension and headlight are annoying
Itchy Boots!
Fi drz 400
hopefully one day
@@TheGardenSnake then nos and turbo
Step 1: sell bike for something fun...😂
but... but DRZ! :(
It’s still a very valid bike!
Just give me a 400 or 450 super moto that's fuel injected Yamaha Suzuki or Honda
So what if I’m an Asian sized Asian person, tho?
The XM5 just look so cheap and are upon examination very cheaply built . Sony abandoned the unrivaled fit of the XM3 XM4 Which is better than any headphones in my collection . I feel like a peasant wearing the XM5s And Sony Felt It A Good Thing To Up The Price By $50.00 . I Returned 2 Pairs Of XM5s Months Apart Trying To See The Value In Them And Other Than The ANC Their Is No Value I Could Find In The XM5s .
My SoundCore Q35 & Q45 Have Better Sound Quality And Look Much Nicer Especially The Q45 .
Please stop talking
That bike has never fallen over even though it seems like it leans too far with that kickstand. I park it in the dirt. Until it falls over I'm not replacing or modifying the kickstand.