I can't fault this - excellent. I can't wait to see what they can do with a portable chain. These grinder-resistant materials may make real inroads into bike and motorcycle theft deterrence at large.
Thank you. Excellent against angle grinder, but heard the composite is brittle. Interested in how it fares against a screw spreader or a bottle jack which are portable, not uncommon tools unfortunately. Pls let us know if you hear.
But a blow torch isn't something usually seen on the street. Bolt cutters were popular for awhile years ago but now it's angle grinders. Plenty of videos out there of people using those but none with blow torches other than a review video for a RUclips channel. That's not a real world scenario though. Not on the street at least. I've heard of groups grabbing bikes still locked up by taking the whole rack off and taking them away in a van. They take it to their spot which is where they can grind them, cut them, and if they have the tools possibly torch them but again this is something done inside or away from the public. There are pics on Amazon of melted through locks but they were in an inside garage so not out on the street. Not saying it's never happened just saying it's not a regular thing like bolt cutting and angle grinding is.
Hi Amo, we are very sorry to hear about your bike being stolen! I can definitely relate to this! This is for sure a lock that all Londoners should own! - Iza
Living in the SF Bay Area I bought an Altor SAF lock 3 years ago. It works, but is too large & heavy for many applications. My 2 D1000’s just arrived last week and I’m sold!THE solution I’ve been looking for - especially locking outside. Now we need Ferosafe and/or Proteus used in chains & anchors for home & back of car security. Unfortunately the D1000 doesn’t interface with most of today’s quality chains. And it’s irrelevant if it did because chains are easily cut anyway. (But I did just commute to SF & left my custom painted & beloved bike outside the SF library at Civic Center for four hours without incident a few weeks ago. It works. But few cyclists can or want to carry that 13 lb beast on a bicycle.)
@@dudeonbike800HipLok does have home anchors too in the same 1000 series. They are just as tough as the locks if not tougher. John of Bennetts tested them as well. I think one is called the A1000.
@@vigilant_1934 thanks for the follow up. I get their newsletters, so I've gotten the updates. Like the anchors, but could REALLY use a chain to secure nine hanging bikes. No way can I justify NINE anchors and NINE more D or A1000's! With their cheapest options, it would be $5,400 to secure them with their anchors. If I could use two of their anchors, two D1000's and one chain, that would save a BUNCH!
It uses a crappy pin tumbler locking mechanism that makes it easy to pick. Even way cheaper locks have much better disc cylinder mechanisms. Doesn't even require the custom disc cylinder picking tool LPL uses to pick.
where do you thinhk is the best way to put the d1000?in the front or back wheel?I am owner of a yamaha tenere.Also my wheels spoked , so can you suggest the best way to put the lock?is there any link for further info? Just delivered!:) thank you very much!
Hi! Great to hear that your D1000 has now been delivered! The general advice for locks like this is to attach it to the rear wheel. Hope this helps - Iza
Litelok is what I’m using… but also considering this … I was baffled to see you JUST put this in the spokes of the tire ( the THIEF would probably just remove the tire ) instead of on SOME part of the frame
This lock is well-reviewed but has anybody used that lock with an e-bike? It looks so tiny. How can you lock your bike around anything with it? It seems to be only for the wells of motorbikes.
Whatever you lock your bike to would need to be angle grinder resistant (talking about pedal bikes here). The bike stands and bike storage are now the weakest link.
Clearly because it’s made for motorcycle wheels not for a bicycle and wrapping it around bike stands etc. it’s big enough for exactly what they’re advertising
Lifetime Warranty covers standard wear and tear and does not apply to products subjected to attempted theft or abuse. I think the lifetime warranty is a bit of a con.
If I were inclined to steal a bike, and l came across a Hiplok D 1000, I wouldn't waste my angle grinder blade on the lock itself, but on what it was locked up to. Chances are the tubular steel it would be locked to is much easier for an angle grinder to cut through. Real solution? Lock up with an angle grinder resistant lock in a highly visible space, and for a short time period. If you have to park longer (like at work), see if your employer will let you park it inside the business space. If thieves can't steal it, they will vandalize it to satisfy their frustration. That actually happened to me, and my employer agreed to let me park the bike inside.
Grinders will make quick work of it in 20 seconds. No u-lock today, other than the D1000 or Altor SAF will last much more than 20 seconds against today’s grinders.
I haven't had any HUGE issues with this lock yet! ruclips.net/user/postUgkxfyHDlEqk6hqu9acdvK5NGzZsGKSokSbv It seems sturdy and like it will get the job done. I really like that it has a twisting lock feature to keep out dirt and debris. However, the mounting system is much too light for the lock, and continues to get loose/move around. It's mostly made of plastic parts, and I've had to tighten it a few times in the past week or so that I've had it. I'm worried that it's going to break off at some point while I'm riding. I'm considering just scrapping that part, but that would mean having to carry the heavy lock i my backpack and adding more weight. I wish I could have given this more stars, but without the mounting system, it's just another heavy lock that I have to cart around. UPDATE: Increased rating to 5 stars because the seller offered to provide a new lock and mounting system. Really appreciate the attention to customer service!!
Its a small and chunky lock, I do feel it should be yellow somehow from a distance yellow gives off a more "Look at me, I'm a big chunky lock or just I'm secure, so go away" feeling. Along with a alarmed disc lock and an alarmed retractable cable lock. All these can be carried very easily as long as your not going to far away from your bike very few people will attack 3 locks if 2 are alarmed no matter how flimsy they look it will catch peoples attention but not many people will intervene in any kind of crime and for their own safety they shouldn't, but someone may call the police. With the price of motorcycles I would like to see a gear lock, select 1st gear and it will not disengage until the power is turned on with an alarm and a tracker installed inside your bikes frame. On my bike I have GPS, Bluetooth, electronic clocks, tyre pressure even an altitude clock but security it has nothing and that is sad.
some one took a strong framing hammer to the corner. I just had my ibis ripmo Carbon stolen. Someone took a hammer to the corner and busted the shit out of the lock mechanism. On my review, the lock mechanism sucks. The graphics itself is strong, the corner locking mechanism is no better than any other POS U lock. pissed. Dont need an angle grinder at all. the pins that lock it are flimsy.........not even 1/4 inch. No you dont need to cut. Just pound the corner with a 27 ounce framing hammer.
U didn't even test it. I have and my angle grinder dewalt battery powered and 2 discs will get through it in under 5 minutes. This is Just a sales pitch.
I'm guessing you mean get through one side of it? The videos he suggested do grind through it properly and put it through many good tests. They also don't sell it or make money off of it so that's a good sign as well plus I've seen other real videos (small no name no face no sponsors YT channels) grind through it as well in about 5 minutes through both sides but it took 5 discs and a good plugged-in angle grinder.
@urbanrider Your customer service is appalling. There is never anyone to answer telephone calls and the shop won't help with online orders. Can you address this rather than these videos pushing product sales.
Hi. I am very sorry to hear that you feel disappointed with us and that you couldn't get through over the phone. Sadly our Iines have been extremely busy. If you could kindly drop us an email at info@urbanrider.co.uk one of our Customer Service team members will be happy to assist you. - Iza
Advice: Use any quality lock SMARTLY! Don’t just lazily put it through one wheel spoke like in the video. This WILL encourage a thief to destroy your moto’s front wheel to steal the whole bike. Go through the rim instead. Or more than one spoke AND the rotor. Grasp as much with the lock as you can. Go through the most stout thing you can. It annoys me to see lock companies advertise people casually (& lazily) locking a bicycle through the frame top tube only. Doing this does encourage thieves to cut your frame! Why are lock makers marketing a security product in a way that more easily enables someone to defeat the sole purpose of their product? (I think it’s to sell convenience, IMHO.) Make what you lock through on your bike stout AND expensive. Not a single easy-to-cut part like one aluminum spoke of a mag or aluminum wheel. Anyway, NEVER use a quality bike lock only on a thin bicycle frame tube. Lock through the head tube (has a steerer tube inside), the seat tube, or even better, through the rear wheel & tire between the seat & chain stays. Even better if your front wheel is included on the other side of the rack or pole. That locks both wheels AND frame with ONE lock. The Hiplok D1000 can do this with almost all road bikes & mountain bikes with narrower street tires. Take the time to utilize your lock to its fullest advantage and thieves will move on. And what I post almost everywhere in bike security discussions: The top three lame smug YT bike security comments: 1) LPL will pick it in 20 seconds! 2) They’ll cut the frame! 3) They’ll cut the rack! Real-world rebuttal: 1) Thieves don’t pick locks. 2) When thieves choose expensive bikes, why destroy the most expensive part? And when they don’t care if the bike’s $800 or $5,000, they’re intending to dump it quickly for $100 to buy drugs. They can’t unload a destroyed bike quickly on the next street corner. 3) Yes, racks can be cut, but it’s rare. Thieves are lazy opportunists and will move on to easier targets. There are always exceptions. But my experience In avoiding theft of very nice bikes over 40 years says using the best locks & your smarts will put the odds in your favor. Don’t lock a bicycle up outside over night. Use GPS trackers. Record your serial number & register your bike. Buy insurance as a last resort to attenuate your exposure. If you have 3 or more $3,000+ bikes, the responsible thing to do is get insurance. But Hiplok gets an A+ in my book for making a HUGE step forward to thwart bike thieves. Kudos!!
@@MegaWebsters thank you! I have two recurring dreams: 1) Forgot a college course the day of the final exam. 2) My bike gets stolen. (And it's ALWAYS my fault, of course!) So I've spent a fair amount of time considering bicycle security, as I only have to worry about #2 these days! So let my lock obsession and psychosis about bike theft benefit you!!!
@@DreamClean it entails a big loss, but SOME thieves are resourceful and/or work with theft rings that have the wherewithal to rebuild bikes & sell parts. When a carbon bike with XTR has a $1,500 parts kit, $200 carbon bars, $500 dropper post, $3,000 carbon wheels, $500 rear shock and $1,200 fork, suddenly those parts will generate some good money sold separately, or put on a frame that WASN'T cut to be stolen. Not that common, but why tempt fate when you can much more effectively lock the bike better without any more effort.
I live in Dubai and leave the keys on the ignition to avoid having to loose them... We have no political correctness and no BLM types. We don't need it...
I've looked into this a bit, I may be mistaken but from what I can tell from the video reviews the D1000 edges it on build quality, grinder resistance and warranty period (and I think it's made in UK rather than China), whereas the X3 is bigger allowing fitment to more motorcycles (as per the linked video). But if they both fit your bike I don't see any deal breakers between them really.
@@andrewvickers4487 Both good options for sure but in that video John actually shows the X3 lasts much longer to cut with an angle grinder (4 discs compared to 2.5). Plus the Litelok is made in the UK and the D1000 is made in China.
@@stevewoods9437 You're quite right thank you, I got them mixed up after hearing this guy liking the D1000 over the X1 ruclips.net/video/eU4Wy2yt07I/видео.html
@@andrewvickers4487 No worries - the X1 isn't as strong as the other two for angle grinder resistance but still seems way better than others in the same price bracket. Gret to see two British companies pushing lock tech forwards
I can't fault this - excellent. I can't wait to see what they can do with a portable chain. These grinder-resistant materials may make real inroads into bike and motorcycle theft deterrence at large.
I can see a fault. What happens when you start rotating key patterns and the get leaked or someone orders the keys
Thank you. Excellent against angle grinder, but heard the composite is brittle. Interested in how it fares against a screw spreader or a bottle jack which are portable, not uncommon tools unfortunately. Pls let us know if you hear.
Graphene & any composite made using it is flammable. Plumbers blow torch is more effective than a grinder.
But a blow torch isn't something usually seen on the street. Bolt cutters were popular for awhile years ago but now it's angle grinders. Plenty of videos out there of people using those but none with blow torches other than a review video for a RUclips channel. That's not a real world scenario though. Not on the street at least.
I've heard of groups grabbing bikes still locked up by taking the whole rack off and taking them away in a van. They take it to their spot which is where they can grind them, cut them, and if they have the tools possibly torch them but again this is something done inside or away from the public. There are pics on Amazon of melted through locks but they were in an inside garage so not out on the street. Not saying it's never happened just saying it's not a regular thing like bolt cutting and angle grinding is.
@@vigilant_1934 bud, cordless angle grinders were not something seen on the streets 5 years ago and they have existed for quite a while
Living in London and having had a bike stolen last year, I’ve just bought one of these
Hi Amo, we are very sorry to hear about your bike being stolen! I can definitely relate to this! This is for sure a lock that all Londoners should own! - Iza
Living in the SF Bay Area I bought an Altor SAF lock 3 years ago. It works, but is too large & heavy for many applications.
My 2 D1000’s just arrived last week and I’m sold!THE solution I’ve been looking for - especially locking outside.
Now we need Ferosafe and/or Proteus used in chains & anchors for home & back of car security.
Unfortunately the D1000 doesn’t interface with most of today’s quality chains. And it’s irrelevant if it did because chains are easily cut anyway. (But I did just commute to SF & left my custom painted & beloved bike outside the SF library at Civic Center for four hours without incident a few weeks ago. It works. But few cyclists can or want to carry that 13 lb beast on a bicycle.)
@@dudeonbike800HipLok does have home anchors too in the same 1000 series. They are just as tough as the locks if not tougher. John of Bennetts tested them as well. I think one is called the A1000.
@@vigilant_1934 thanks for the follow up. I get their newsletters, so I've gotten the updates. Like the anchors, but could REALLY use a chain to secure nine hanging bikes. No way can I justify NINE anchors and NINE more D or A1000's! With their cheapest options, it would be $5,400 to secure them with their anchors.
If I could use two of their anchors, two D1000's and one chain, that would save a BUNCH!
Is this OK for an electric scooter?
I'll be convinced how secure this is when LockPickingLawyer shows that non-destructive intrusion is non-trivial
I’d like to see the lock picking lawyer do it in a real life scenario on the street.
@@rideoutlondon it seems like you want him arrested
@@greenmuso Lol no just a set up thing without the studio and practice.
@@rideoutlondon fyi I was making a joke but that's a fair point.
It uses a crappy pin tumbler locking mechanism that makes it easy to pick. Even way cheaper locks have much better disc cylinder mechanisms. Doesn't even require the custom disc cylinder picking tool LPL uses to pick.
where do you thinhk is the best way to put the d1000?in the front or back wheel?I am owner of a yamaha tenere.Also my wheels spoked , so can you suggest the best way to put the lock?is there any link for further info?
Just delivered!:)
thank you very much!
Hi! Great to hear that your D1000 has now been delivered!
The general advice for locks like this is to attach it to the rear wheel. Hope this helps - Iza
Litelok is what I’m using… but also considering this … I was baffled to see you JUST put this in the spokes of the tire ( the THIEF would probably just remove the tire ) instead of on SOME part of the frame
This lock is well-reviewed but has anybody used that lock with an e-bike? It looks so tiny. How can you lock your bike around anything with it? It seems to be only for the wells of motorbikes.
Have a electric circuit that if cut releases a massive jolt!
Whatever you lock your bike to would need to be angle grinder resistant (talking about pedal bikes here). The bike stands and bike storage are now the weakest link.
It's a good shape.
Looks like it's worth attacking it with an angle grinder right on the contact surface between the shackle and the lock itself.
why do they make these locks so small, they need to be longer
Clearly because it’s made for motorcycle wheels not for a bicycle and wrapping it around bike stands etc. it’s big enough for exactly what they’re advertising
@@Hayesvalley ok, you must live on Mars sailor.
@@heysailorreedy6651 ha! nah you just couldn’t think of anything else to say because you feel dumb. Have a good evening from mars 😂✌🏻
Lifetime Warranty covers standard wear and tear and does not apply to products subjected to attempted theft or abuse. I think the lifetime warranty is a bit of a con.
If I were inclined to steal a bike, and l came across a Hiplok D 1000, I wouldn't waste my angle grinder blade on the lock itself, but on what it was locked up to. Chances are the tubular steel it would be locked to is much easier for an angle grinder to cut through. Real solution? Lock up with an angle grinder resistant lock in a highly visible space, and for a short time period. If you have to park longer (like at work), see if your employer will let you park it inside the business space. If thieves can't steal it, they will vandalize it to satisfy their frustration. That actually happened to me, and my employer agreed to let me park the bike inside.
Chances are its not u sound dumb
Ordered it on the crowdfunded and still waiting. Emails suggest it’s arriving this week…
Thats weird, I did my order June 6. and I just received it
I ordered mine in May and they arrived in California last week.
i got in August
I like the abus granite disc lock. It’s cheaper and even more compact
I have one.
Grinders will make quick work of it in 20 seconds. No u-lock today, other than the D1000 or Altor SAF will last much more than 20 seconds against today’s grinders.
Disc locks are useless. They’ll cut your discs. Guess how I know?
@@WildlifeMoto you pinch bikes for a living?
@@5tevieb954 is ur brain under developed?
I haven't had any HUGE issues with this lock yet! ruclips.net/user/postUgkxfyHDlEqk6hqu9acdvK5NGzZsGKSokSbv It seems sturdy and like it will get the job done. I really like that it has a twisting lock feature to keep out dirt and debris. However, the mounting system is much too light for the lock, and continues to get loose/move around. It's mostly made of plastic parts, and I've had to tighten it a few times in the past week or so that I've had it. I'm worried that it's going to break off at some point while I'm riding. I'm considering just scrapping that part, but that would mean having to carry the heavy lock i my backpack and adding more weight. I wish I could have given this more stars, but without the mounting system, it's just another heavy lock that I have to cart around. UPDATE: Increased rating to 5 stars because the seller offered to provide a new lock and mounting system. Really appreciate the attention to customer service!!
Its a small and chunky lock, I do feel it should be yellow somehow from a distance yellow gives off a more "Look at me, I'm a big chunky lock or just I'm secure, so go away" feeling. Along with a alarmed disc lock and an alarmed retractable cable lock. All these can be carried very easily as long as your not going to far away from your bike very few people will attack 3 locks if 2 are alarmed no matter how flimsy they look it will catch peoples attention but not many people will intervene in any kind of crime and for their own safety they shouldn't, but someone may call the police.
With the price of motorcycles I would like to see a gear lock, select 1st gear and it will not disengage until the power is turned on with an alarm and a tracker installed inside your bikes frame. On my bike I have GPS, Bluetooth, electronic clocks, tyre pressure even an altitude clock but security it has nothing and that is sad.
Nothing a can of fluorescent spray paint couldn’t solve.
I would just put it around the frame , because if they cut the frame to get it off , well the bike is useless . Unless they want to weld it up lol .
3:52 i would cut rim in this case🤣
some one took a strong framing hammer to the corner. I just had my ibis ripmo Carbon stolen. Someone took a hammer to the corner and busted the shit out of the lock mechanism. On my review, the lock mechanism sucks. The graphics itself is strong, the corner locking mechanism is no better than any other POS U lock. pissed. Dont need an angle grinder at all. the pins that lock it are flimsy.........not even 1/4 inch. No you dont need to cut. Just pound the corner with a 27 ounce framing hammer.
我的妈呀😢
they should of made it 2x thicker
You dont cut the lock, you cut what the lock is attached to......
Over 10 x's the price of a gold dlock I'll keep using two £20 dlocks silly money
U didn't even test it. I have and my angle grinder dewalt battery powered and 2 discs will get through it in under 5 minutes. This is Just a sales pitch.
I'm guessing you mean get through one side of it? The videos he suggested do grind through it properly and put it through many good tests. They also don't sell it or make money off of it so that's a good sign as well plus I've seen other real videos (small no name no face no sponsors YT channels) grind through it as well in about 5 minutes through both sides but it took 5 discs and a good plugged-in angle grinder.
@urbanrider
Your customer service is appalling. There is never anyone to answer telephone calls and the shop won't help with online orders.
Can you address this rather than these videos pushing product sales.
Hi. I am very sorry to hear that you feel disappointed with us and that you couldn't get through over the phone.
Sadly our Iines have been extremely busy. If you could kindly drop us an email at info@urbanrider.co.uk one of our Customer Service team members will be happy to assist you. - Iza
@@UrbanRiderlondon no, your customer service lines are not busy, Izabela. That's you fobbing me off again!
Advice:
Use any quality lock SMARTLY!
Don’t just lazily put it through one wheel spoke like in the video. This WILL encourage a thief to destroy your moto’s front wheel to steal the whole bike.
Go through the rim instead. Or more than one spoke AND the rotor. Grasp as much with the lock as you can. Go through the most stout thing you can.
It annoys me to see lock companies advertise people casually (& lazily) locking a bicycle through the frame top tube only.
Doing this does encourage thieves to cut your frame! Why are lock makers marketing a security product in a way that more easily enables someone to defeat the sole purpose of their product? (I think it’s to sell convenience, IMHO.)
Make what you lock through on your bike stout AND expensive. Not a single easy-to-cut part like one aluminum spoke of a mag or aluminum wheel.
Anyway, NEVER use a quality bike lock only on a thin bicycle frame tube.
Lock through the head tube (has a steerer tube inside), the seat tube, or even better, through the rear wheel & tire between the seat & chain stays. Even better if your front wheel is included on the other side of the rack or pole. That locks both wheels AND frame with ONE lock. The Hiplok D1000 can do this with almost all road bikes & mountain bikes with narrower street tires.
Take the time to utilize your lock to its fullest advantage and thieves will move on.
And what I post almost everywhere in bike security discussions:
The top three lame smug YT bike security comments:
1) LPL will pick it in 20 seconds!
2) They’ll cut the frame!
3) They’ll cut the rack!
Real-world rebuttal:
1) Thieves don’t pick locks.
2) When thieves choose expensive bikes, why destroy the most expensive part? And when they don’t care if the bike’s $800 or $5,000, they’re intending to dump it quickly for $100 to buy drugs. They can’t unload a destroyed bike quickly on the next street corner.
3) Yes, racks can be cut, but it’s rare. Thieves are lazy opportunists and will move on to easier targets.
There are always exceptions. But my experience In avoiding theft of very nice bikes over 40 years says using the best locks & your smarts will put the odds in your favor.
Don’t lock a bicycle up outside over night.
Use GPS trackers.
Record your serial number & register your bike.
Buy insurance as a last resort to attenuate your exposure.
If you have 3 or more $3,000+ bikes, the responsible thing to do is get insurance.
But Hiplok gets an A+ in my book for making a HUGE step forward to thwart bike thieves. Kudos!!
Some really good and under appreciated / considered points here.
@@MegaWebsters thank you! I have two recurring dreams:
1) Forgot a college course the day of the final exam.
2) My bike gets stolen. (And it's ALWAYS my fault, of course!)
So I've spent a fair amount of time considering bicycle security, as I only have to worry about #2 these days!
So let my lock obsession and psychosis about bike theft benefit you!!!
"Doing this does encourage thieves to cut your frame!"
Er no. Not even thieves are that stupid. Cutting through the frame writes off the bike.
@@DreamClean it entails a big loss, but SOME thieves are resourceful and/or work with theft rings that have the wherewithal to rebuild bikes & sell parts.
When a carbon bike with XTR has a $1,500 parts kit, $200 carbon bars, $500 dropper post, $3,000 carbon wheels, $500 rear shock and $1,200 fork, suddenly those parts will generate some good money sold separately, or put on a frame that WASN'T cut to be stolen.
Not that common, but why tempt fate when you can much more effectively lock the bike better without any more effort.
no point putting it on the wheel carry the bike away . into the trailer .
I live in Dubai and leave the keys on the ignition to avoid having to loose them...
We have no political correctness and no BLM types.
We don't need it...
Check out the Litelok X3 here - Apparently it's even better than the D1000! ruclips.net/video/PUwjh8J4uec/видео.html
I've looked into this a bit, I may be mistaken but from what I can tell from the video reviews the D1000 edges it on build quality, grinder resistance and warranty period (and I think it's made in UK rather than China), whereas the X3 is bigger allowing fitment to more motorcycles (as per the linked video). But if they both fit your bike I don't see any deal breakers between them really.
@@andrewvickers4487 Both good options for sure but in that video John actually shows the X3 lasts much longer to cut with an angle grinder (4 discs compared to 2.5). Plus the Litelok is made in the UK and the D1000 is made in China.
@@stevewoods9437 You're quite right thank you, I got them mixed up after hearing this guy liking the D1000 over the X1 ruclips.net/video/eU4Wy2yt07I/видео.html
@@andrewvickers4487 No worries - the X1 isn't as strong as the other two for angle grinder resistance but still seems way better than others in the same price bracket. Gret to see two British companies pushing lock tech forwards
Cut this off with my 54v dewalt in less than 5 minutes using different method
Bias
Thats great but give the grinder another 30 seconds and it would cut it like butter what a marketing gimmick smfh useless