Keeping Cool In Extreme Heat - Ideas From Burning Man
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
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For us, there's no better place than Burning Man for a little outside-the-box thinking, especially when it comes to staying cool in extreme heat. With the desert highs reaching into the 100’s and no shade trees for miles, people are forced to be resourceful to keep themselves and their RV cool.
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My One tip; If you dont want problems with the shadecloth tearing during wind storms, tie it down with *bunjee cords*. They will keep the shadecloth always feeling right, with no slack parts and an even feel, and they just stretch for a little bit when ever the gusts are bad... it works so well, you wont believe it.
Yes, I was wondering if the tarp could simply be put over the RV and then bungeed to the underside of the vehicle.... I am thinking of doing this when I go car camping. I'll be parked at temporary locations and can't use rebar in the ground. I am concerned that the tarp will be stolen during the day when I'm away from my vehicle, however.
Use bungee cords to keep tarps from ripping. They stretch so your tarps don't die. It puts stress on the tarp holders and they rip. They need to flex.
Yes you are. Very cool. Great ideas. I think the best way to help with the heat, if you're walking around, etc, is to wet down your tee shirt or tank and put it back on wet. Thanks for posting.
Having driven a 27-ft, 1970 Travco there for a number of years (and adding 6 - 8 passengers per trip, to share expenses/take cars off the road) I found that just bringing a huge tent with an even bigger shade structure worked best. No generator needed, I stayed cool enough to nap there during the day. Keeping the windows zipped shut except when napping (etc) also kept my tent so dust-free, people noticed & remarked on it.
Even when I drove the Travco up there, I never used a generator. It was fiberglass (way cooler than a metal rig), we taped mylar space blankets over the windows (cheap, cool, and you can still see through them), and we shaded the whole thing with tarps and bungees.
MUCH simpler solutions to beating the heat than the power-oriented ones shown in this video.
Great video (as all of yours are) with really useful ideas. I especially like that you included info on what other people were doing and got feedback from what works well - or not.
I was thinking ... if you have an extractor fan, it will pull the hot air out of the vehicle but it will also make a negative pressure inside and pull dust in with cooler air. If you have areas of air infiltration, it will even secondarily pull a partial vacuum in your bays underneath and draw dust into them. I was thinking that if you rigged up a fan outside to blow positive pressure into your RV and had that air flowing through the filter, you'd create a positive pressure in the RV. Instead of every little crack and crevice acting as a point to allow dust in, it would be acting as a place to blow dust out. We'll always get a little dust infiltration from areas like the side directly into the wind but if we could make it so that rather having a microscopic bit of dust being blown in every minute, we had a microscopic bit being blown out every minute, it would keep things much cleaner inside. You'd also have an effective place to put your filter -- a filter will work better (OK, the whole system will work better) if the filter is situated so that the positive-pressure air is pushed thought the filter rather than the energy-losing effect of the velocity of the air being reduced by being drawn in by suction. It would also be a perfect location for effective swamp cooler air treatment (put in a matrix after the air filter and dribble water on it).
A system like that would need to have a squirrel cage or other positive-pressure fan -- ordinary paddle blade fans move air OK but they don't do well if there's any back pressure or positive pressure that they're using. In fact, if you wanted to be entirely creative, you could work out a bellows operation with a counterweight on a bar against the working part of the bellows (so that you'd only be using energy to actually move air, not overcome the weight of the bellows panel) and power the whole thing by a wobble arm on a windmill. But no matter which device you use to provide the incoming air, it would be best for that incoming air to be under pressure rather than vacuum.
I've been to BRC 11 times and have learned a lot about staying cool. My rig is a Class B van so I have less to cover but tarping everything you can from above is key. The image you showed of Aluminet touching the roof is useless. There has to be an AIR GAP. I raise them up a few inches with inflatable pool toys. I find the bucket swamp cooler is a waste of time in my van. Evap cooling directly on the body works the best. Cooler melt water soaked rags on the head do the most to cool a person.
Exactly! Without an air gap a shade screen only creates additional insulation to hold IN heat. There's more than one reason that good shade screens allow air thru them. While that does greatly reduce the stress from wind, by far the most important reason is to let the air circulate to prevent heat building up. A good air gap at the highest point is critical.
Water soaked rags on the head is dumb. Your body naturally sweats for cooling. Putting water on your head closes the pours actually giving you heat stoke faster than normal sun. I delt with this crap when playing football years ago. Also having worked outside when on the ranch and having a parent that works on the railroad will say the same. He picks guys up all the time that done the water on head "trick" and damn near killed themselves. Recently a guy was brought to the ER because of it.
Take a long sleeve cotton t-shirt, get it wet, wring it out, put it on and it feels cool against your skin as the water evaporates.
You're Burners?? 😍 I've been browsing dozens of RV owners channels, but you just became my first ever RUclips subscription. Hope to see you on playa, dusty hugs to you!
Great tips! Another one I know of is You can freeze a damp towel and when the heat is bad you take it from the freezer wet it a little then wrap it around your neck.
Take a long sleeve cotton t-shirt, get it wet, wring it out, put it on and it feels cool against your skin as the water evaporates.
It's more of a survival tactic than something to do while boondocking but in Iraq when we didn't have ANYTHING we would cool bottles of water down by hanging them in wet socks under our awning. The wind would blow through the thick socks, evaporate, and cool the water. We're talking 130 degrees down to about 98 degrees, but when you've spent a month drinking hot water to cool off, 98 degree water is an improvement. And it might be a bit more effective in climates below 130 degrees.
I can see you guys hanging up pictures of cool spring water. It wouldn't help but it might deflect your thoughs. It's good that you're issued 2 pairs of socks.
First, thanks for protecting me with your service to your country! Second, that's a great idea for me also. I'm getting ready to camp in a small camper with a very small refrigerator and no freezer. I've been wondering how I can cool my water bottles as I don't want to take a cooler with me. I'll try your suggestion this weekend.
Get a terra cotta wine cooler and keep your water in wine bottles. As long as the terra cotta stays wet, it stays cool.
Bro you endured hell on earth for your countrymen. Much appreciated.
I keep several blocks of Blue Ice in my freezer, and on hot nights I just take one to bed with me. Hold it next to a major vein and it cools your core temperature like a champ. Also, my brother came up with a fantastic idea. Buy an overlarge sheet for your bed, tuck the sides in, and then set a box fan under the edge of the sheet down at the foot of the bed. The sheet blows up like a balloon, and cool air circulates all over your body while you sleep.
Love the filter in window idea!
Since I am new to this RV lifestyle I have not spent time in the RV in extreme heat yet. These ideas will help, thanks.
I've been following for a few months now, but never went as far as the RV living... I already loved your life on Curiosity but you guys at Burning Man is the best!!!
Make sure to use residue free tape such as: No residue all weather duct tape or gaffer tape. You can get colors or clear to blend in better with your RV. This will not leave gummy residue on your stuff and the tiny bit of residue that might be left, easily rubs off. I use residue free or no residue tape for most things now. Also to save tape or if you need narrower strips, these tapes easily tear down the middle if needed.
Nice good looking couple posts a well made, well edited, and helpful video about how to take care of yourself at Burning Man and a bunch of people who would never go to Burning Man come out of the woodwork to complain about the video. Makes me think that there are a lot of envious people who really hate their own lives...probably because they are trapped in their own rules and judgement of others.
I definitely wouldn't go there, for a lot of reasons. but there are a lot of people who do.
We went to a military supply store and bought a huge camo netting and draped it over my entire RV -- It was big enough that it covered all sides when we threw it over the roof. It was beige camouflage and the holes in it let enough light in thru the windows so we could see during the day.
I like your idea of the AC filters for the windows but I've always tried to keep all my windows and doors shut as much as possible. The playa can get some pretty knarly wind storms and the first year I went I came home with a dusty RV. I'm still finding dust in nooks and crannies I never thought I'd find.
Hope to see you on on the playa this year.
Cheers!
So Cool! I love our AEZ community, and I am so glad you posted this. I actually sewed my own shade structure for over our fifthwheel, one of a kind.
boy the Wynns really tough it out, out there. Don't they?
Jelly?
my wife and I love your videos!! love love love em!
as my gaffer friends used to say, if you don't know a knot, tie a lot.
if you can't tie a knot, tie a lot.**
Ha ha, I love that.
they're probably a lot better at know tying now since they're on a boat!
Spritzing the filters with water - brilliant!
I've thought about going to burning man, but this is the part I'd be scared of. I think it was 115 in Vegas last week or two when I was home. The desert heat is brutal. What a fun video to check out and pick up tips from. You definitely got my wheels turning.
Just go
Just circled around back to this video. We went to BM last month for the first time and loved it. Our van broke down so we had to tent it instead. Our neighbors were running their generator 24/7 and it was obnoxious! Thanks for showing others, you don't need a generator to get through the week! You guys rock and keep the content coming!
👍🤩You guys are so adorable. I can’t believe so much time as flown by. I’m just rewatching some old videos to keep views up (especially with a new boat in the works).😉💝
We bought a used single pad home window unit swamp cooler converted it to 12 volt fan and pump mounted permanently (see my videos) using solar 🔋 and it works fantastic! Thanks for info...
Great info. Thanks. I don't plan to go to Burning Man but the info applies to most camping, at that level of luxury. 😎
I used my AC today in 103 Temps an man, it wouldn't cool down after two hours run-time! The propane powered gen worked great, I figured it would shut down, but it did well. To my thinking, in such hot conditions, I will travel in my auto and stay in hotel rooms. But, I am much older and I will not be attending such an event.
I was looking for some videos on keeping cool in my new Lance slideout unit... This pretty much answers my questions. Thank You...
So it's been a few years since my Architecture classes but a couple things come to mind right off the bat that I use in my designs regularly...1) Rotate that RV to run east west to limit the exposed surface area on the sides to direct sun exposure. 2) Use solar powered house attic vent fans on top to move more cfm's of air. Oh, and a 12 volt pump and mister lines around the perimeter. Something I've been reading about are these boards with the top half of 2 liter bottles attached in a grid pattern a kid thought up thats being used in third-world countries.
2023 reviewing of your video, after this year's muddy mess of a BM festival!
Can't help but wonder what seafaring Jason thinks, looking back at his old rope knotting skills!!
I love your outfits. You both are adorable..
Thank you
Hey Guys, wanted to clear up a few questions:
If you want more info please check out the article on our site, it includes links and products: www.gonewiththewynns.com/keep-cool-extreme-heat-ideas-burning-man
We filmed these tips at Burning Man but we captured these recommendations for anyone that wants to camp in warm, dry climates such as Baja Mexico or the Desert Southwest.
I would not recommend the swamp cooler solution for humid climates.
We covered our logos and websites because Burning Man isn’t about promotion, so we did our best to cover up all logos and branding.
Also we drop our cats off at a place called the Cozy Cattery in Reno, NV…it’s like a fancy hotel week for them both.
We’re wearing “outfits” because were at BM, if you don’t know what Burning Man is watch this video we filmed our first burn: www.gonewiththewynns.com/burningman-nv
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Thanks for posting the link to the text version. I was typing away as fast as I could, and kept having to pause to catch up, when I thought. . .check the comments for a link! You two are so helpful and kind to us newbies.
I burned yearly until 2007....lotsa changes on the playa!!! You guys seem too nice for that changed scene.
You know, the idea of using AC filters on the windows gives me an idea i thought i would share. I crack open the roof vents in my fifth wheel when i store it and i tend to get dust and pollen inside over time. Some cut down AC filters might help reduce the dust and pollen infiltration during storage. I guess it would reduce air flow a little but i think the benefits would out weight the draw backs.
All very great ideas I like the silver illuminate shading.
:) I came by to rewatch this video. (it's Summer here in Oz and i'm trawling the net looking for tips on insulation) and I had to have a bit of a giggle at your abysmal knot tying skills. How things have changed for you both over the last 2 years. :)
ha, i forgot about the knot comment in this video :)
@@gonewiththewynns Just going through the backlog of videos now and laughed at the knot comment too. What a difference a day makes...
Plastic this plastic that, but don't you dare turn on the generator. The fact that you drove a motor home that gets 7mpg hundreds of miles, but you won't fire up the generator is laughable. You are you trying to fool?
It's simply in their nature.
People really don't realize just how many things in our world come from hydrocarbons.
I think the issue with generators at camp is the noise and LOCAL pollution nuisances
Jeff that is Ironic
@@robertjacoby5180 Get an extension cord and put your generator 15 yards away, problem solved
A good solution to securing tarps or sun shades while avoiding tearing grommets out is with a rubber ball or smooth rock. Place the ball or rock in the tarp and wrap around it, then tie rope around ball cinching it off kind of. Or picture the ball like a dog head and the rope is a leash around the neck. Then tie other end to stake and tighten. That greatly expands the surface area of the tarp that is under tension and will generally last much longer than a grommet of any kind.
Sticking your feet into a dishpan with cool water in it helps alot. Especially if you don't have a pool or can't go swimming. Good for the elderly during a heatwave. Some water sprinkles/spray/damp towel wipe on your skin, helps alot [its also a form of "evaporative cooling", the water absorbs the heat, and evaporates into the air]. With that, a fan, or the wind, in the shade will make you feel cool/cold.
15 years ago all you needed was a school bus, 10 circus performers and a good bit of acid to attend Burning Man How did they stay cool? Lots of Beer! The rich people are ruining it.
It's not a money problem, but a mentality problem!
David the good ol days
reflectives and evap cooling with a solar setup is the way to go. Nice!!
I went there, and let me tell you, the heat feels like being just 20 miles from an atomic explosion
I would get one of them new RVs that use lithium batteries you can run for about 8 hours then the engine or generator kicks in for about 30 minutes you could probably run for about a week on 50 gallons of gas and keep the AC on
The clamps, go to harbour freight because they have some great clamps. I bought several sets and use them for hanging all my shade tarps. They are great!
FYI, Evaporative coolers only work in VERY DRY climates such as deserts. They are worthless when humidity levels rise above 15-20%.
At 32 °C (90 °F) and 50% relative humidity, air may be cooled to about 24 °C (75 °F), hardly seems worthless
Nice, someone who actually looked at a psychrometrics chart. Way to go mike r. Granted it would probably take high quality misters to get that good of a transfer to the water but still, fact. I remember seeing an article a little bit back where some folks working on carbon nanotube structures for an unrelated reason discovered that part of imperfect tubes were serving as > dew point nucleation sites for water that could be made to wick away. So it would drop grains without having to be below dew point. I cant figure out why the hell thats not a wildly successful product by now. I mean, an unpowered dehumidifier is like the holy grail of air conditioning.
I use an evaporative cooler in humid Florida it's not as good here but still cooler than a fan.
Swamp coolers will only cool to the dew point.
When the dew point is at 24 C, that is still kinda sweaty for comfortable sleeping.
Remember, that's 24 C with 100percent humidity...
In the desert, extra humidity from the cooler helps, and, as long as the heat of the day can be dumped from your camp, sleeping is easy because the nights are much cooler.
If that class a is yours and not a rental I would consider getting at least the roof painted white or chrome, should reduce the temp 5-10 degrees or get a reflective tarp or more reflectix and put on it.
Environmentally friendly isn’t really what you want when you are in the 115* desert. I’m going for nice and cool
I'm in love with your little indoor garden. So stinking cute!!! 😍😍😍
Okay Donnie and Marie going to Burning Man has officially blown my mind (and maybe turned me on a little;-) !
you guys are awesome! hope to see you on the Playa!!
+Connor Bourne We're hittin' the water this year so it'll be a while before we make it back to a Burn.
Great video... Nice tips. I have always said if I ever even up going back to Burning Man, I am staying in trailer/RV. Never doing the tent thing there again. I will definitely use the filter tip. Thanks!
Love your posts... well produced, amusing and informative... thanks Wynns!
Im glad to be home streaming the MAN live, insyead of a gidforsaken desert!!!
Air con is often a problem off grid however I now think that we can power air con via 12v batteries and an inverter. I am using back contact solar panels from the US. In Europe it is so far OK, whether or not it would work in the heat of the desert is another thing.
Great job, love your videos. This was very educational for me. I enjoyed seeing the ideas. Thanks for sharing.
Unbelievable what exist in the world. Very nice. Greetings from Germany with many trees :-)
Great video guys! THANKS FOR SHARING THE KNOWLEDGE. I will definitely try some of these out asap. Our Airstream gets up to 95 degrees inside while in partial shade. Best wishes from LHT.
This was such a fun video. I love the creativity thanks for sharing!!
Pull a trailer with your RV.
1) Put 500 gal tank on trailer. Hook tank to genarater. Turn on genarater, turn on A.C.
2) Place two (2) 125lbs propain tanks on trailers, hook propain tanks to stove. Cook.
Use solar tarp over trailer, to keep fuel cool, if need be run an A.C. tube out from RV under solar cover for additional cooling.
Sun shade was originally made for green houses in the south.
Awesome! I could get a solar shade to cover my car here in Vegas when it gets super hot.
Thanks for the great tips. You guys are awesome.
I sold rvs. That rig you have is nice. No way the gen is too loud to run.
That'd depend on Burning Mans' rules.
My plan would be to turn on my generator and run the A/C and crack open a can of Corona and burn one at Burning Man.
Corona is one of the worst rated beers. Even worse that they have a new distributor the last few years. Buy Shiner
You live way better at burning man then i do in normal life.
heat is nothing without humidity try south Carolina in august.
Humidity just get you sweaty, the worse thing that can happen is when the air is actually hot so not even the shade is fresh
prestonbarr
All you need is a fan in the south... you are your own evap cooler.Out west there is no humidity so a fan will only blow hot air...BM is considered north, try Tucson where it hits 117* at times.
South Carolina is fucking disgusting... I'll never go nack
phuck ewe as someone who grew up in the South and who now lives in Colorado and been to 8 Burns I can say: you are absolutely correct. The hottest day at Burning Man is nothing compared to a typical hot summer in Atlanta.
The best way to stay cool is head to the mountains on higher ground (Colorado, etc). I'm in the Cali desert in May and it's already too hot - so I am hoping to finish my work very soon and get out..
you weren't overcharged on your tarp cost in Reno.. ours is 20 x 24 and cost $260 on line, delivered. nice vid. thanks.
Space blankets beat refletix.
Cut them to fit Windows and squeeze on with soap and water.
I'm sure if you can make ice easily you can make a diy ac. I'm sure there's small freezers you can by to make ice, and it's good because you can just reuse the water
Wow what a great idea for the window.
what do you and the misses do for work. That is a great set up for Burning Man.
There's a whole section on the blog for how the Wynns & other nomads make money and travel. Check it out here: www.gonewiththewynns.com/make-money-travel
Curious Minion
Great ideas! Do you have a plan for rooftop vent conversion to swamp cooler? If so, can you share?
Learn a taut line hitch, or some other ideas are to use ratchet straps or 7 gauge wire and a fencing plier. Also look for a tarp with metal grommets or riveted on plastic grommets.
Well Jason, you're looking dapper. Nikki, digging that meowy look.
Hi Guy's not like you need any help staying cool:)) we have a class c with a ranger pull truck, we use a Honeywell CL30XC 525 CFM Indoor Evaporative Air Cooler. Uses less wattage. Have fun, keep rollin. PeteandKarla
Your knot game has come a long way
Good stuff guys! And just CRAZY what people can come up with. We've just got to get to Burning Man someday. Cheers!
Are you guys going to Burning Man this year? We will, with our Avion camper.. Thanks for the tips, learned a lot
I think youve gotten pretty good at knot tying since this video lmao
..I wanna see the footage of you guys *after* the mushrooms... ;) and here i thought you guys were .. a bit straight
Is this your new rv? I love the kitchen herb garden!
My husband and I are renovating an rv and this video was super helpful. Thank you!! Stay cool :)
Thanks for this. Lots of great ideas here.
And, yes, y'all ARE pretty cool!
Happy Trails!
Some of the slickest swamp coolers I've seen this side of Phoenix!! Thanks!
Jim@MidOhio
Great info. I learned new things. Ty
Do you guys cover up your tyres in the hot weather? I've read that the rubber can get extremely hot and shorten the lifespan and replacing tyres is quite expensive.
And those water coolers are a great idea as you can use PC fans to draw in air and they use tiddly amounts of power.
paint it white and apply it ceramic coating some People say is magical against UV radiation. Also wet poliester long sleeve base layers is what motocross guys and army guys use to survive in the desert to avoid heat stroke and dehydration by evaporation. Is a lot more portable than a fancy air cooling system. Also a wet bandana in the neck transfers heat right out of your blood stream.
Really roughing it kids. Nice RV. I did double tents and was just fine.
Park facing east or west. It significantly reduces the surface area exposed to direct sunlight.
Have you guys ever thought about heading down under to Australia or New Zealand and doing some RVing?
Cool. The Simpsons did an episode about this community
SSSHHHHH! Oz and NZ are what they are because they are relatively isolated.
(and because Western "culture" only got there a couple of hundred years ago and hasn't yet had enough time to destroy everything worth having)
PS NZ was (by many thousands of years) the last major land mass to be "discovered" by modern "civilization". When it is degraded, THERE ARE NO MORE (relatively) "UNSPOILED" PLACES.
It's only real hope is that western "civilization" collapses before it's had time to destroy NZ (and Oz) beyond recovery.
Is the black top hat part of the strategy?
Add swamp coolers to your rv, you can run them off of solar and perfect for low humidity areas like the desert. Rv swamp coolers called turbo kool I've been looking at.
Swamp coolers are great in the desert but use a lot of water.
Gone with the Wynns . I did forget how much water they do use. Thank you for this video. :)
I park with the rear end facing the prevailing wind.
Jason, a tautline hitch & anchor knot are knots all Boy Scouts learn; either one would have worked better than what you tied.
The air condition filters like a makeshift swamp cooler it would only work in a low humidity area
some really cooooooooooool ideas, thanks for sharing.
Good information.
you need to skip Burn and go to High Sierra Music Festival in Quincy, CA!
U better use Electric Fan, with water mist pump...
It works very good in Indonesia...
nice job
Idea, make air alloy shingles that have metal snaps and arrange the snaps so wind can not lift the shingles off. Aluminum foldable eye beams uou can connect together to form a super structure with plates the eye beams push pin secure into that you can drive spikes into the ground to secure it to the ground leaving a inch to two inch gap between air alloy and the camper or trailer. Then unroll and snap your air alloy shingles into place. Make a vestibule for the door of the camper or trailer. A high heat desert shading sysyem to drop the heat and protect your investment from solar damage. 😊😉