My mother passed away six years ago at the general hospital in my hometown Gothenburg Sweden. I got a phonecall from the hospital that I have to hurry up if I wanted to say goodbye to her, when I got there she already had passed away. So I stayed in the room for an hour or so and then I took the elevator down to the ground floor where there were no people in that long corridor. suddenly a white light turned up about ten meters up to my right it was the size of a golfball and it came towards me, when it touched my right shoulder I could actually feel some weight. I instantly turned around and I could see it fade away. I felt like it was my mother wanted to say Im fine...
Gunnar, I was also too late to say goodbye to my mother. I could’ve stayed at the hospital but chose to go home to try to get some rest. I got the call as you did & I missed her passing by literally a few minutes. My mother told me people often pass away before their loved ones come to their side to spare them the moment of passing, so I think about it this way. Your mother will love you unconditionally whether you were there at her passing or not. Don’t worry, she is ok, either been reincarnated & is already living a new life or you will meet her again in another state of being..all is good.
I got a kick out of the atheist guy. Coming from someone who has had a near death experience. This guy is in for a rude awakening. Not only do we exist on a conscious level after our physical death, but any ailments that we are suffering from whether physical, mental, emotional or spiritual, or all healed in the afterlife. It’s both a blessing, and a curse to have this knowledge, while still alive here, and have people like this guy, close, minded, and unwilling to accept that anything could possibly exist beyond his ability to know.
Atheists are pretty much just illogical in the idea there is no God, nature is too complex to have just "happened"! denying the existance of a Creator makes no sense at all, it is just Ignorance.
I don’t know who this will help but this is some food for thought: My grandfather passed away last year and I never got to say goodbye to him. We’d always talk about family history at the diner (he gave me an old scrapbook in the event he passed). A few months after he died I dreamt that I was with him in a diner, and he had the scrapbook and told me to open it because “I left something for you.” When I woke up I opened it and found a hidden letter from him, at the bottom it said my name. I sent this to all my family. To this day, I wonder “Was it really Grandpa?” I choose to believe it was.
To all you dear ones who grieve or wonder: an honest skeptic will concede that we simply do not know enough to, out of hand, dismiss the quiet assurance, and the numberless testimonies of humble witnesses that comfort and provoke contemplation about the profound poetry of the human experience. It's expressly human to entertain such hope. Never surrender your hope or humanity to those who peddle despair, and would rob you of what's most sublime and super mundane. Let them despair, alone+++
When my son was 3 he described exactly what happened the day he was born, he described the very distinct chair his father was sitting in, I was asleep, he said he looked down and said yes, that’s my mom and dad, and my husband says I woke up and began to push and the dr barely got in the room to catch him coming out. He told me that story twice. I can never forget this close to the truth. 🙏.
My 2 yo son accompanied me to visit my mum's grave. I sat quietly crying , he waddled over to me and put his arm around my shoulder and gazed at the grave with me, strangely mature, he said " it's ok, it's ok, my 7 people died, it's ok" 😲
@@pollyanna6557 I know what you're saying is true. My instinct, that little voice in our head, that the Bible got it wrong on this. There will be "NO" ashes or skeletons putting on a human form again. Where did the souls or spirits go that already died?! Did they rise up already? Or where are they now?!
Most interesting theory I have heard is that the brain is simply an antenna for consciousness. That also explains any brain injury, disease or condition that impacts people. This theory holds that it’s the same for all animals and their more limited brains result in a more limited consciousness.
Yes, Chris, you are on to something. The Hard Problem of Consciousness, the mental movie playing in our mind, is our spirit reading the symphony of neurons. Neurons have an electric charge going through them which will produce a field of energy that the spirit can "read". If part of the brain is injured then the messaging is garbled. Hundreds of thousand (if not millions) of people experiencing the Out-of-Body Near-Death Experience, with core experiences across cultures and beliefs, is hardly "so little evidence" of the spirit continuing to exist after our brain shuts down. Until our moral codes change to the point where we allow scientific experimentation of killing people in a controled environment and then resuscitating them to see if we can reproduce the experimental data, we are just going to have to take people's experiences as our best evidence.
@@gordonquimby8907 Spot on Gordon! Your thoughts mirror mine exactly. There are so many NDE reports, and they all tell a similar story. Many academics seem to know their specific subject but are unable to expand their knowledge into other areas. This leads to a shallow result whereby they need "scientific" proof before acknowledging anything outside of their realm. I was fortunate to experience the Akashic Records (by unintentional accident) 35 years ago, and now see things very differently to common beliefs.
"Most interesting theory I have heard is that the brain is simply an antenna for consciousness." This makes sense to me, if paired with the possibility that there's some kind of elemental awareness present in all of reality. As the universe, with its various kinds of interconnections and networks, develops, that background awareness would be developed, refined and focused into increasingly more complex forms of consciousness. I'm agnostic about it. Or rather, my position varies a lot -- sometimes I lean toward believing that, and sometimes I lean against it. But I don't think this can preserve every single individual eternally. I think identity and self would prove to be things that emerge and regroup in different ways (which has already been found to be the case in some of the split brain studies). If you think about it, even if people's past life memories are accurate, they still aren't the same person that existed before them, so even if reincarnation has some truth to it, identity and self are much less rigid than people think when they talk about eternal souls. What I don't think is supported is the resurrection of Jesus or anyone else. Much as I appreciate these explorations, I thought the inclusion of two people who made their view contingent on a supposedly historical event, without including the evidence against that event being historical, did slant the overall essay. To me, they were saying, we believe this because the book of our religious mythology says it, and that's it. Not useful in examining reality. It would be as if I interviewed a physicist about star formation and then interviewed a couple members of a UFO cult who said that stars were the children of the cult leader because he said so -- without including any objections to that cult or its leader. It slants the discourse. I guess I don't see what relevance pure religious doctrine has to the study of reality. People can believe whatever mythologies they choose, but when claiming one is the truth of reality, they should have to stick to evidence.
I held my 84yo Dad as he was dying. Suddenly his eyes opened and they had turned brilliant sky blue!!! He pointed weakly at something past me in cnr of room then exhaled and was gone, his eyes returned to faded instantly.
@@stevefmelb yes apparently it does, I had a lady tell me exact same thing happened with her mother. It's called " visioning" I volunteered in nursing homes and when ppl passed it was usually inactive and eyes closed, many ppl have eyes closed or alone at the moment of transition so it goes unnoticed. I can assure u it is to true. I have no reason to fabricate it. It changed my life, I feel I need to tell this experience every opportunity, hopefully helps some.
@@stevefmelb This is actually a really common occurance in hospice. Interestingly it can happen weeks, sometimes a month before passing. So it's not limited to their final hour/minutes
I have a story when i was 7 years old. When my grandfather died he visited me in my dream. I saw him cutting woods. He was wearing white clothes. We talked but i dont remember exactly what we did talked about. I do remember him leaving and asked if i can go with him. He then told me its not my time yet. As im older now i still remember that dream. It stucked with me. Im an atheist but i still do think there is something after death.
I had a profound visit from my late husband when I was away staying in a motel with my best friend to mark the one year anniversary of his passing. It was comforting and wonderful. His energy was powerful and sort of triumphant. Basically, look what I can do!
@@ZBooneBeats he didn't speak or show himself, but he opened a locked and chained door, obviously no visible presence. I felt his energy, it was exactly one year to the day that he died. I know there is an afterlife. It's got nothing to do with religious belief. They go there the second they die, they continue to take an interest in our lives if we were close, and they make their presence known whenever they like.
"You positively will not die(Genesis 3)" by disobeying your creator. The idea of life after death comes from the one "misleading the entire inhabited earth (Revelation 12:9)."
Robert says a few times that people would want to live forever. Not me. I feel joy that my body will die, and my existence will end then. I feel a certain bond with every other living thing throughout creation, with my being and ending. From each star in the sky, to every microbe, to a little lizard climbing the trees in the Triassic - I’m a temporary part of creation. I’ve had an okay existence; I don’t need to hold onto it.
In 2003, I was comatosed for several weeks. I was only on life support then. Haven't seen any white lights, angels nor demons. Nothing. But it was such a moment that I realized that death is something that is not to be feared, it is something that we must embrace.
Errr WTF??? If it's an eternity of nothingness it definitely IS something to be feared!!!! I want an afterlife ffs!! Where's your proof of an afterlife????
I believe in an afterlife where we revert to what we were before this one, that is is spirit Form. I believe we do not remember past lives. A spirit is not of matter, it's like an idea, a thought, but I do believe we can be reborn
as though he has any choice? You want him to throw chairs at them and then have no one to interview for his channel? When he doesn't even show or delve into the evidence one of his guests spoke of, and just goes on to dismiss it as "weak" and doesn't even let the public decide for themselves, that is not respectful. At best he is display pseudo intellectuality.
I came to the comments to express appreciation for his maintaining his skepticism about claims that have proved dodgy in the past (messages from mediums).
I don't know if NDEs are real or not. But it seems odd to me that Christians will see Jesus, Muslims will see Muhammad, Jews Moses etc. And only about 15 percent of resuscitated people will have an NDE which means that 85 percent do not. I myself was resuscitated after an accident 45 years ago and I remembered nothing but waking up.
When I was a child, I would occasionally get this weird feeling that I'd been here before, and I'm not talking about dejavous,that's something else entirely.
NDEs: there are vivid NDEs of experiences in and around hospitals, conversations of relatives several rooms away from the OR, things spoken by surgeons, 360 degree spherical visual field with a perspective outside the body, and in some cases while the brain is under the influence of ANESTHESIA! The point is that there usually is NO recollection of ANY experiences while the brain is anesthetized - no experience or dreaming, no recollection of time passing, is the norm. You’re out and back. So, how do you explain the NDE experiencer’s recollection of time and validated experiences early in the NDE if the brain is anesthetized? What is the origin of vision and hearing perception, and awareness of weightlessness? Where is the memory for these experiences stored if the brain biology is shut down? * In Brain injury, there is indeed loss of components of function, BUT, these are losses of either the perceptual apparatus that takes in our 3D material world, or, the loss of neural areas responsible for motor movements, including speech. If the brain is like a computer, it has certain processing centers that function like subroutines or macros for such things as walking, breathing, reflex motor responses, chewing, speaking, etc., all related to the material machinery of the body. Volition to make a movement or speak or walk, for example, does not originate in the brain - brain center damages removing the ability to express volition does not destroy volition. It would be wrong to think that the lack of ability to speak what is on one’s mind, due to damage to the Brocca’s area, means that the mind and volition to speak is now absent. Many patients in comatose conditions who recover report that they still sensed their existence and even heard the conversations of relatives who visited their hospital bed, even though they could not speak or move. * Another example: consider the amputee who can feel a phantom limb and desires to move it - the volition is there but not the motor mechanism of muscles. Even if stimulating certain neuronal regions in the brain can produce certain experiences of sensation (colors, emotions, e.g.), this does not account for the occurrence of volition, and such mental mindful things, like planning one’s future or selection of various options or activities to participate in (as in writing a comment on YT, e.g.). The brain material is not likely to initiate any optional higher level activity through spontaneous neuronal activity. However, involuntary motor movements can occur in such abnormalities as Tourette’s Syndrome and various Seizure disorders. Oddly, some part of the person having the seizure or random motor actuation is aware that they are having the movement, but that they did not ask it to occur. That portion of their consciousness remains in a normal state, while the brain circuitry misfires electrical signals - but again this is related to the machinery of the body, while a “soul” in communication with the body remains aware. My point: The inability of the body to express the volitions of the mind, does not cancel the presence of the mind. If the mind is tied exclusively to, emerges strictly from, neuronal sources, it couldn’t initiate the higher functions requiring volition. So, where does volition reside? When I decide to move my arm, what is deciding? * As for a Benevolent God should prevent pain and suffering in the world: I think it’s a mistake to believe that if there was a God, that “he” would intervene and remove all sources of pain, even though he could. That is relegating to God what we, in the mind of God, should be responsible to eliminate. We are assigned the task of feeding the world, eliminating hunger, eliminating murder through moral training, seeing to it that peoples basic needs are met to eliminate crime. Believing there is no God because he hasn’t acted to do this is a stretch. In fact, Christians could argue that God has acted to influence us toward our responsibilities for this, through the teachings of Jesus, and through moral laws like the 10 commandments (to include Judaic foundations). The free will argument is applicable here, because love of God and love of neighbor requires it. Humans are permitted “free will” because the very nature of genuine love requires it. God cannot coerce people to love Him or their neighbor, but it surely could make a difference. Genuine Love, by definition, is absent of coercion and must originate in the one expressing love. * Atheists have often been bludgeoned in their childhood with messages of guilt from religion and churches. Or, contrarily, have been criticized by their “scientific” peers and colleagues for wandering into “unorthodox beliefs”. This can seem an assault on one’s self-esteem. This repugnance for organized religion develops (and who can blame them), but it would be an over-reaction to completely dismiss other characterizations of God - throw the baby out with the bath water, so to speak. Repugnance is an emotional response, not an argument against God based on logical assertions. Ask an atheist if they experience any hint of repugnance. Their foundational arguments can be rationalizations that function to hide the emotion, though they will likely not admit it. If there are other “spiritual dimensions”, or the existence of the soul, there might possibly be another invisibility we call God. Can’t have either one, because the atheist is repulsed. Or maybe they just prefer to be secure in knowing only that which is physically knowable and testable in materialism, to avoid criticism or speculative thoughts - it’s just a lot less complicated to see a more limited scope of scientifically verified assertions and observations. * I also point to the mere complexity of physical organisms and the complex interdependencies of various living things as evidence of a God. Plants and animals gas exchange, DNA molecule and its ability to store the instructions for assembly of a complete human being or other life form, Sexual reproduction - the interdependence and fit of male and female and how this is more advantageous than asexual methods like parthenogenesis. It all seems too complex and statistically improbable to have “evolved” in a synchronous way through random mutations and processes. Thus I believe there is an intelligent designer behind the natural material world. How has matter emerged from, and particles and their properties come to be what they are? It is important to remember that just because you can describe the composition of matter, doesn’t mean you can create it ex-nihilo (from nothing). Only a “Creator” who sets the laws of physics in motion could have done it (intelligent design). * In the end, I am a dualist.
If there is some kind of existence after biological death, by definition it would be a different sort of existence. Some different mode of existence, existence on some different plane, or in some different world. What evidence would you expect to find of that while still in our present world?
Yes, you said it. It is not possible to bring evidence of that world. However there are people who had the Near Death Experience and brought back the picture of that world and they can only described by words. But again people says oh it is all hallucinations and product of brain due to oxygen deprivation. Anyway we all going to die one day and will see the reality and truth.
@William Dillard because the vast majority of dreams involve mundane elements from our walking life, it stands to reason that strangers in pur dreams also come from walking life, even if we dont recognize them in our dreams. Certainly our brains are capable of inventing a unique person (although even "unique" creation would be composed of facial and body features that you've seen before) there is nothing necessarily preventing a sleeping brain from doing so. However , based on what dreams are and where dream content comes from, it's likely that strangers in your dreams are a version of someone you have seen in your walking life.
Robert Lawrence is a superb host..When intrigued by the prospect of an after life, you can see the genuine concern, hope and sincere interest on Roberts face (albeit in a casual manor) when statements are given. Its comforting to know he is as wide eyed interested as his viewers. Smooth & sharp interviewer. His Follow up questions & statements are always spot on. His balance must be appreciated. Kudos to you fine sir!
Mark Twain, "I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” He could have added, "And after death, likewise." There is an interesting comment below "The heart has memory too." Now retired many years ago, a heart transplant, before and after, was a part of my case 'load.' I still feel bound by the laws of privacy. This person's new heart, of which I knew all the details, constantly communicated with his brain taking on the mental and physical characteristics of the donor which were dramatically different in each other's real life. He did not know his donor. There are such documentations on the net but when you see it happening as real events, it is mind boggling.
One thing is certain, prof. Braude have with his research topic surely hit the gold mine, securing funding for his research for the remainder of his life...and for all I know into his afterlife.:)
Appreciate your work! Interesting questions and high quality content. It would be interesting to know why some of us think that this few moments in time (60-80 years of a lifetime) is all and there was nothing before and will be nothing after. Just look at a baby. Is he looks like it's coming from nowhere and going to nowhere? Is it possible to think that we and everything that surround us exist without any purpose? Every single particle of this creation is shaped based on precise laws and high mathematics. How could anyone believe that all this exist without reason?
this earth is only One room in Our Heavenly Father's school for our Growth when we learn our lessons here we go on to our next school room and on and on we never stop growing!🥰😍💞💖💯👍
After my dad passed away of cancer I heard my dad spoke to me saying my name from the afterlife. He left this earth as but letted me know he's alright. In Jesus name he's nolonger suffering
Life after death was proven years ago in northern Europe when it was found that your 'consciousness' did not need a corporeal body to reside. A researcher placed sheets of paper with words and drawings on top of cabinets in several hospitals without anyone's knowledge. When people had died and then been resuscitated, they could tell what things were on the papers in their respective rooms. Only way to do that is if you mind does not need a body to survive and go on....
@@billyrankin8890 I'm not dismissing anyone. Basically stating what I believe to be more likely based on actual data and evidence. The original poster stated life after death was proven. That is a lie.
The interview with professor of philosophy J.P Moreland of Biola university is fascinating and he makes me want to read some of his many books and journal articles.
Now wait a minute. I had three medium-strength strokes (RIND-strokes) I was half paralyzed for three years and half a year and could not speak. I have short and long memory damage and a host of other issues. Thirteen years later I can now live a near-normal life, memories forgotten come flashing back, only to be forgotten the next day, they reappear months later. If the storage cells were damaged, how did the memories come back? The electricity that runs your body can never be destroyed only transferred or transformed. Humans are not batteries, we do not make current...so where is the static charge coming from and how is it still charged till death? Some sort of life source is powering things.
Humans are not batteries, true, but humans are very much a power generator, producing energy from food. There is no 'life source' powering things, it is food. And when you dig down you find that in the end all food obtains its energy directly or indirectly from the sun through photosynthesis. The sun is thus powering all life on earth. Everything is fusion powered
@@MrSeacruise If you ever stopped eating completely for a month or two you know it very much is food that powers things. Are you saying that because your body can do pretty well with eating only once per day it doesn't get all its energy from food?
There are no "storage cells". It's not electricity. It's electro-chemistry and physiology. There is no static charge. You need to learn how neurons work. The keyword is 'ionic'.
The resurrection of the body implies the "whole" body, which includes the genitals you were born with, and he only insisted on mentioning that because of the obvious consequences from having fully functioned genitals in a ressurrected body....Maybe people choose to not eat or piss or defecate with their ressurrected "imortal" body, but it´s resonable to expect people to keep wanting to have sex
@@kaledon6 🐟 09. REINCARNATION (OR NOT): There is NOTHING about the individual person (that is, the “ego”, as defined in the following chapter) which transfers to another body after death, except, perhaps, habitual tendencies in the form of indelible mental impressions (“vāsanā”, in Sanskrit). For example, in my present incarnation, I have a strong affinity for the culture of Bhārata (India), a highly-advanced intellectual capacity, a very slim body, and an attraction to a frugivorous diet. That suggests there was an Indian spiritual master in the previous century which had some (or perhaps, even all) of these characteristics, but it was not “ME”, since what I am now is this ever-mutable Australian-born Aryan gentleman. These “subtle mind impressions” are known in psychology as the “collective unconscious”, in new-age spirituality as the “akashic records”, and in Islam as the “Preserved Tablet”. There is an abundance of evidence that humans are born with certain psycho-emotive links to previous persons, times and places. It is far beyond the purview of this document to list such evidences. As mentioned, in my case, I have an EXTREMELY strong association with all things Indian, despite not being of Indian origin, and the “collective unconscious” hypothesis seems to be the best explanation for this bond currently available, in my opinion (although the term “collective conscious” would, perhaps, be more accurate). For the popular view of reincarnation to be plausible, there would need to be an entity or an OBJECT called a “soul” (“jīva” or “ātman”, in Sanskrit), which somehow finds a copulating couple, then enters the woman’s uterus, to inhabit a zygote. Assuming the existence of an individual spiritual soul is profoundly illogical, because spirit is (by most definitions) the antithesis of finite matter. Therefore, how can an immaterial “soul” be confined to a single person’s body? It seems rather strange to believe that the universe was organized naturalistically in such a manner as to recycle an object called a “soul”, or even to recycle minds, particularly when one understands that a mind is naught but a series of flickering thoughts, feelings, and memories. Some believe that the “thing” which transfers to the next incarnation are the remnants of one's actions (“vāsanā” or “saṃskāra”, in Sanskrit) or at least one's psychological disposition (likes, dislikes, phobias, etcetera). This is far closer to the idea of the collective unconscious, and even if it is a perfectly accurate account of what occurs after death, it still cannot give substance to the notion of a SEPARATE individual which is travelling from one body to another and again to another (“saṃsāra”, in Sanskrit). According to the law of conservation of energy, first proposed and tested by Émilie du Châtelet, energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another. Both this law, and Dr. Leonard Susskind's minus-first law of physics, states that energy/information is indestructible. The analogy of one candle being lit by another candle is apt. Are the two flames the same flame or completely different flames? According to those laws, PART of the energy is transferred from one wick to the other wick, a portion of the energy is released by the flame, and part of the energy remains with the original candle. Regarding reincarnation, a rather appropriate analogy could be that of a whirlpool in a stream of liquid. A whirlpool is a definite form within a river but, just like the human form itself, it is never static. Some water molecules which were once swirling within one whirlpool may move farther downstream, mix with other water particles, and form a new, distinct whirlpool. So, in my particular case, it is eminently possible that a vast amount of “Indian energy” was transferred to my psyche from one or more persons from Bhārata (the proper name of the country), plus the addition of genetic matter from my Persian parents and their Aryan heritage. The fact that BOTH Iranians and North Indians are Aryan seems to add further credence to my hypothesis, even if to a small degree. Of course, there is no conclusive proof for such types of claims at this stage in human history, but the evidence is certainly extant, and as mentioned, the profusion of evidence available goes far beyond the purview of this document. One ought to do one's own thorough research into the matter, rather than relying on anecdotal testimonies. There are several well-documented books and videos published on the subject. There is not the slightest doubt in my mind that my essential nature has NOT transferred from one body to another body, because I have fully understood and realized, by practicing the four systems of yoga/religion described in Chapter 16, that my true nature is Brahman (see Chapters 06 & 10 to learn of the Real Self). There is no such thing as a “soul” or “spirit”, unless, of course, one defines those words to mean the subject (that is, the observer of all temporal phenomena), and logically, the subject cannot be an object, at least in the transactional sphere. When I die, my physical body, composed of the five gross material elements (“sthūla-śarīra”, in Sanskrit), will be reabsorbed into the biosphere, whilst the non-tangible aspect of my body, composed of the three subtle material elements (“sūkṣma śarīra”, in Sanskrit), will possibly merge with the collective unconscious, and the story of my life will come to an end FOREVER. See Chapter 05 regarding the eight elemental groups. It seems likely, judging by the evidence, that the “vāsanā” of a deceased person may transfer to more than a single individual. That explains why there are so many persons at once claiming to be the reincarnation of certain famous personalities. This fact is difficult for many to accept, since they are thoroughly attached to their pseudo-egos, their intellects, their minds, their bodies, and their possessions. However, when one realizes that one is, fundamentally, not an ever-mutating psycho-physical organism, but, essentially, never-changing, all-pervasive CONSCIOUSNESS, all fears are alleviated. The only “thing” remaining of a person at the time of death is the only “thing” which has ever “existed” - Pure Unalloyed Awareness, or Eternal-Conscious-Peace (“sacchidānanda”, in Sanskrit). We do not normally dread the dreamless portions of our nightly sleep cycles, so why would we fear a more permanent period of existence similar to deep-sleep? This existential crises is the basis of most all angst and uneasiness. So, fear not - death is a normal, NATURAL, and even a necessary consequence of conception. That which has a beginning, surely must end. Putting aside whether or not reincarnation is an accurate account of what happens in this world, it is ABSOLUTELY certain that we receive a completely new body approximately every seven years (via a gradual process, of course). Our first body was a microscopically-sized zygote and our present body is several kilograms heavier. From where has all that extra weight come? Obviously, it came from all the nutrients that we have absorbed via the umbilical cord in our mother's uterus, or via the food, air and water we have consumed since birth. Therefore, one who believes that he is nothing more than the body-mind organism is grossly ignorant of basic biological science. Genetically, approximately half of the cells in the body are not even of human origin, believe it or not! We can all easily understand that our infantile body is completely and utterly different to our present-day form, so logically, our true identity must be something quite APART from it. Nothing, including one’s genetic code, remains constant from conception to death. The sense of self does not even make its appearance in our psyche until two or three years after conception. Therefore, a person is more accurately defined as a process (a verb), rather than an object (a noun). Cont...
For the sake of philosophical IMPARTIALITY, it is germane to acknowledge the perspectives of other eminent pundits. E.g. In “Bhagavad-gītā”, one of the very greatest spiritual authorities the world has ever known, Lord Śri Krishna, uses the analogy of how the individual person (“ego”, in Latin, or “jīvātman”, in Sanskrit) travels through the various stages of life (that is, from childhood, to pubescent adulthood, to geriatric), with His description of the process of reincarnation, as conceived by the ancient seers (“ṛṣi” [rishi], in Sanskrit) of India (“Bhārata”, in Sanskrit). “...each person is destined to die once...” Anonymous (possibly Paul of Tarsus), Letter to the Hebrews, 9:27. N.B. Ironically, the author of the above letter was a close disciple (or at least a follower) of Lord Jesus of Nazareth, who, according to the New Testament portion of the Judeo-Christian holy book, raised his acquaintance, Lazarus, from the dead. Logically speaking, Lazarus must surely have died more than one time, as did the many dead persons who were supposedly raised from their graves at the crucifixion of Lord Jesus. Assuming that Paul was the author of the Letter to the Hebrews, he himself even raised a young man from the dead (although, in that case, the man, Eutychus, was dead for only a very short period of time, so it was likely that he was merely unconscious, rather than fully deceased). OBVIOUSLY, the writer means that, generally speaking, each individual person is destined for one life alone, as opposed to any alternative scenario such as reincarnation. Yet, as we now know, humans beings are not stable objects, but ever-mutating processes of mind and matter. “The entity that is supposed to be reincarnated in another body, does not even itself exist, except as a concept! How can a mere concept be reborn?” ************* “When you are dead, you will be back in the primordial state of rest, which existed before you were born; that stillness before all experience. It is only the false sense of a limited, separate 'me', that deprives life of its meaning and gives death an ominous significance, which it really does not have.” ************* “The fear of death, is actually a product of the desire to perpetuate one's identity. Were you not dead before you were born? Those who know Reality, know the falsehood of life and death.” ************* “What is born, must in due course, die. The objective body, will thereafter be dissolved and irrevocably annihilated. What was once a sentient being, will be destroyed, never to be reborn. But consciousness is not objective - not a thing at all. Therefore, consciousness is neither born nor dies, and certainly cannot be 'reborn'.” Ramesh Balsekar, Indian Spiritual Teacher. “Who are those persons who pass away leaving the ‘I’ intact? What exactly passes away leaving the ‘I’ intact? It is a body and its corollary, the world, that pass away. That is, particular sensations and perceptions disappear. That is all we can be sure of. However, sensations and perceptions are disappearing all the time. The ‘I’ is not a body. The ‘I’ is a thought that identifies awareness with a body. The ‘I’ passes away every time that thought ceases. All we know of death is that certain sensations and perceptions cease. There is no evidence that thinking and imagining cease at death. In fact, there are numerous reports of the mind surviving the death of the body (to go back to conventional language), but no reports of the mind disappearing along with the body. And this is exactly what happens when we fall asleep. The thinking, sensing and perceiving that we call the ‘waking state’ dissolve, but their energies leave a subtle residue which in turn arises as new thoughts, images, sensations and perceptions, which we call the ‘dream state’. In other words, a new body, mind and world appear in awareness in the dream state. When we wake in the morning, we don’t think ‘Oh, I reincarnated last night’, but in fact we did! That is, awareness took the shape of thinking, imagining, sensing and perceiving, and one of the forms that thinking took was the form of a particular thought that identifies itself, awareness, with one particular sensation called the body. That is reincarnation, to believe oneself to be a body and to seem, as a result, to live in a body. Reincarnation simply means to identify with a body. We do it numerous times every day, not just once a lifetime. And every time we disidentify with a particular body-mind we die as that apparent entity and realise ourself as awareness. This process continues in the waking state as well as the dream state, only this time we take it for real rather than as a dream. But during the dream itself, the appearance of a body and a world seemed equally real as the waking-state body and world. We have no way of knowing from within the waking state whether or not it is a dream, just as we have no way of knowing from within the dream itself whether or not the dream is real. However, we are not in the waking state any more than we are in a dream. We are awareness, and the waking state appears in us, as does the dream state. There is no difference, from the point of view of reality, if such can be said to have a point of view, between the waking and dream states. They are both appearances in awareness and made only out of awareness. In other words, neither incarnation nor reincarnation ever really happens. They just seem to happen. Therefore they never really cease to happen. They just seem to cease. The experience of love, peace or happiness is the experience of the cessation of the dream of incarnation.” Rupert Spira, English Spiritual Teacher.
When water is frozen it is ice and when heated it is steam it’s still water. Life is the same. Whether in a living body or without one life is “always”.
I’m not closed to the idea that there is an afterlife, but I think it’s fair to assume that we wouldn’t be “us” as we are in the current sense. For one, your memories, personality etc. are all DEMONSTRABLY stored in your brain. You knock out the right part of the brain and you can knock out aggression for example. You knock out a different part and you can wipe out memories. Okay, so science can explain the FUNCTION and performance of memory, personality, vision, etc… but currently (and maybe permanently) it can NOT explain why there is something it *feels like* to have a memory or see the color red (conscious experience). So, perhaps there is something super-physical about consciousness. However, we can also clearly see that consciousness is directly fed/ tied to the physical brain in very non-trivial ways. So, I think about afterlife the same as before-life. Were we conscious before we were born in this life? Possibly yes. But we don’t remember it. It doesn’t matter to us. Now there is no a priori reason to assume that afterlife and before-life would be the same, but I tend to lean towards the belief that an afterlife would be equally detached from our current life in the same sense. So, yes, I would love to live forever as much as most people, but it just doesn’t seem very likely and it seems even less likely that it would be “us” in the sense of our current selves.
3 things prove it to me personally, knowing all the people who were important and I was destined to meet, their names were very clear when I was 4., Constantly wondering if I would get it right this time, as if I had done this all before. Having an OBE and meeting my buddy who had died in a car accident, letting him know it was his time to move on to the next world. And then a few weeks later learning about his accident and how it happened, exactly what I saw in the OBE, and just having OBE's, how it seems that we tune into different realities based on frequency, like tuning a radio to a station. And experiencing other bodies that are not of physical form, yet being just as concious or even more concious during these kinds of experiences.
Like Jesus healed people during his time; 3 people in our family in the last century ere healed by the 7th son of the 7th son. My mother in 1920 was headed by a termal crippling disease. My brother's vocal cords were healed in the 60's. And and my dad knee was healed in the 70's. That's all the proof I need.
The problem with ethereal discussions like this is religion almost always gets drawn into it. Invariably religionists point at their guiding texts for all the answers about an afterlife and look no further or bend alleged "evidence" of an afterlife to conform to their beliefs. The issue with that and specifically faith is that it's not proof or evidence of anything. "I think it therefore it is" doesn't fly you to the moon. The only thing thst can be said for sure is if there is an afterlife there is not an incurruptable method to repeatedly demonstrate its existence, yet.
Good job. The life, earth and the universe are full of secret mysteries that still beyond human comprehension. Keep on exploring. Appreciate your good work and way of thinking ..
While sitting in a convertible watching the moon and starts after an admittedly late night out my friend turned an said something that largely sums up much of this topic in only four words: “Faith, is it’s own reward!”
Faith feels rewarding because it allows you to believe in things you wish to be real, not things which have evidence for them. So it makes you feel good, like kids have faith in Santa.
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At 69 years old I have spent the last 55 years pondering such things. I have never been religious as I believe that organised religion can only be, at best, an attempt to explain the true purpose of our existence. A little like watching an early flickering movie where the glimpses we have of the truth are the images we see on the screen, whereas the real truth is hidden from our eyes in those flickering moments in-between the visible frames. I am drawn towards the moments in-between, not the religious doctrines of the visible frames. At 14 I wondered why very similar stories from our remote past seem to pop up in various religions and cultures around the world. I interpreted it then as events that were maybe many thousands of years being passed on verbally until at last we were able to write down our folk memories, which of course by then had gradually changed and diverged over time into the religious texts we see today. It was not until I came across reincarnation stories that I found something that seemed to speak truly to me. Of course that then prompted the question if reincarnation is true why does this occur. That lead me into consideration of karma. Are we meant to work out our previous mistakes and what is it we are meant to learn before attaining enlightenment and eventually nirvana. Are we merely the new born child that has no idea yet of life really is and yet somehow has to graduate before moving onto our full potential that I believe is outside of this physical existence. I think this is the reason for reincarnation but we have no external teacher, we have to become our own teacher at our own pace, we have to understand through experience. I have recently come across the Chinese philosophy of Tao, and the idea of not fighting the flow but going with it resonates with me as well. Ultimately it does not matter what I believe because whatever happens is part of a natural process and I cannot alter that. I can only continue to ask questions and accept that sometimes the answers DO come from somewhere outside of myself and in that process I can move forward.
How long do you think humans would voluntarily stay in this madhouse if they knew *(beyond any doubt)* that they will continue on after death in (presumably) a higher and better context of reality?
Precisely, William. And if there had been mass suicide early on because it was somehow proven that life continues on after death, then none of the nearly 8 billion humans presently alive on this planet would have ever come into existence. Which is why it is imperative that such truths remain hidden from humans.
Whatever the options we come up with, it's probably something different again which underpins the unknown. All we can say is that if life and death exist, and neither can be truly understood even with the evidence of our own experience and/or scientific knowledge, then what chance is there that we can speculate correctly about another form of existence? Feelings are a magical realm of existence and are the source of spirituality. Reason and logic are the hope to pin them down scientifically...fat chance.😉
We are all entitled to our own beliefs. To me death is simply part of a cycle meant to allow me to move on to a different body in order to learn more lessons. The Universe is made up of unconditional love. I believe we all carry part of that love inside us. We are all immortal and our lives have purpose.
Hope so because this life is a damn struggle all the way through. Our reality is so evil and depressing and there’s so much beauty. Humans are disgusting with all The killing and polluting and manipulation. Yuck
Absolutely, if you were able to train your mind to a certain sharpness and strong concentration like the mysterious samādhi and dhyāna state like many Indian yogi of the past and present did, you would be able to remember many past lives you have based on your own experience, without a need to resort to speculation and any belief system.
@@ctrockstar7168 Well if you are able to recall something forgotten memories in the past do you think you need to have a belief system to back up your own experience?
If there is no life after death, then those who believed in it, will never know they were wrong, and those who did not believe in it, will never know they were right. It's the ultimate irony.
the answer to this question is yes, there is life after death, take my word, I had a NDE and I was up there and saw Heaven, that incident increased my faith in the creator.
@@thearabicfacilitator You cannot prove it was real and not in your head! There have been experiments conducted for example in hospital theatres where secret messages were left out of view above patients. None of the patients were able to state what was on the messages!
I'm very sceptical to some kind of afterlife. But I've had a dream I'll never forget, that seems to indicate consciousness beyond our physical existance! Maybe the dream was just a weird coincidence, but it's too strange
I am a Muslim but I believe that this is nature. God means highest power of the universe. Angel s also power made with light. Human and animals made with soil. Because we eat potatoes vegetable etc all are from soil when we die return the soil back and soul goes to the sky and wait still my turn to reborn according to my past deeds.
I find the subject highly likely, as I do believe in spirits, and the paranormal. I also believe that souls/spirits will come back to live a new life (reincarnation)
We do what is life without faith I have two thoughts I've lost my daughter and son I cling on to the hope I see them again I don't live I just exist if I don't see them at least least I will be out of this he'll on earth
@@brendadrumm9451 Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. You will definitely be with your children again I promise you. Jeff Mara NDEs podcasts will help you. Your children see and hear you now. I hope you find comfort in knowing that. Merry Christmas!
I’m starting to wonder how it can’t be possible. If there is a certain arrangement of material that can instantiate my consciousness, either producing it through complexity or acting as a “transmitter” of some fundamental force, then if time is eternal and there are many/infinite universes/realms of existence, what are the chances that the same template/arrangement of physical stuff would not once again come together to produce “my” consciousness? Someone talk me out of this cause I feel like no one has this view haha
I've had that same thought and I can't help imagining that we are not the only ones who've had it. After pausing for a moment my unconscious informs me that I am absolutely certain we are not the sole thinkers of that thought. Anyone who's thought deeply about teleportation will have thought about the consequences arising from the making of atomically identical copies of a living human body. (And then fantasized about what power might be had by a hundred thousand single minded copies).
But why would there have to be a God for you to have an afterlife? What if the universe itself, which has created you, allows you to continue existence in another form? An energy form, rather than physical form?
When we talk of God we talk of the creator. It is white Europeans who impose the idea of God as man , Father etc. The energy form you speak of is essentially God
Yes, his was the most well reasoned. Interesting that Robert can accept the possibilities of other dimensions of every kind of universe but not the possibility they may also be inhabited by every kind of conscious Beings that our own consciousness might still be a part of while here. There really are some strange experiences documented. One child even found the murderer of his previous incarnation.
@@skybellau Those kinds of data(?) go way beyond my ability to comprehend, mostly because I've not had opportunity to explore them, instead relying on my Christian faith to channel me along the theological/philosophical paths leading to further inquiry. That said, as a career sciientist I nevertheless remain open-minded about the Supernatural world, and as a scientist I do not discount what has not been disproven, scientifically or otherwise. Hence, I remain open minded about most or all possible unseen worlds at this stsge.
JP Moreland makes two points: 1) The Resurrection of Jesus provides a singularly noteworthy indication of life after death. Jesus' resurrection is historically-based and extensively-evaluated, so much so it is no longer worth debating the issue- one either believes the evidence or not. This is not confirmation bias, it is evidence-interpretation. 2) Near Death Experiences: these are almost exclusively outside the realm of religious belief. Once again, one either believes the evidence obtained, or not. Some of that was discussed in Dr, Kuhn's first interview, with Stephen Braude. By 2022, a considerable body of evidence on NDEs has been obtained that has been broadly reported by a large number of investigators, likely mostly non-theists. Do they have confirmation-bias? ??? With due respect, the only confirmation bias I see is that which you yourself are projecting.
For those committed to an afterlife based on a religious explanation, you need to tackle the problem of positing God as an indisputable, propositional given. Until you can demonstrate and prove the existence of that entity, your arguments are baseless.
This is the great mystery that will never be solved. All I can say is we are here now, maybe we were here before, and maybe we will be born again. I remember speaking a foreign language once in a dream although when I woke up I had no clue what I was saying.
I don't think he spent enough time with reincarnation. There's a lot of pretty convincing evidence for it, I recommend finding a documentary BBC made of it. I also don't think reincarnation necessarily needs god. If it was possible, it would be evolutionarily beneficial because in some sense we might have learned from our previous lives. There might be a completely non spiritual explanation for reincarnation and we just don't know it yet.
This channel had an episode on time travel and how it's very possible from a scientific view to be transported into the future. What if God did that when we died and just gave us a new body and placed us on this very earth but way ahead in the future where we would never grow old and die and live our lives out perfectly forever. This explanation is both scientific and fits the Bible account of a resurrection hope.
I would not call this explanation ' scientific'. The scientific point of view about the future of our planet is that it will be swallowed up by the sun once it starts to run out of fuel. But humanity and most life is long wiped out by a massive asteroid strike that happen every 10-100 million years. Just the idea that the human species is in some way 'special' and even though it hasn't been around for a long time will somehow remain here much longer than any of the other species observed is not very scientific already. So is it physically impossible, no. Does that make it scientific, no.
The answer to this question will only be definitively given at the time of our death. If we do continue then our awareness will tell us so. If we don’t then there is nothing not even awareness to confirm our doubt which is an interesting dilemma! We can only know if life/consciousness continues if we continue but we can never know if it doesn’t! So if there is life after death the believer is rewarded with being right whereas the disbeliever can only be rewarded with being wrong. I therefore will side with the believers for I have nothing to lose right or wrong.
The Truth is that nobody really knows. To say that there is an afterlife is a useful speculation. To say that there is definitely no afterlife is an unfounded, premature conclusion.
it was the late writer Colin Wilson in I believe his book Poltergeist that concluded that the simplest explanation for spirit contact was it's actually spirits.having had two experiences myself I think that he's probably right.i'd say that the tale of the 7 year old boy and the tricycle is pretty convincing but obviously the question I would have is;was he brought up in a household where such things where routinely discussed?
Yes, which was incredibly magnanimous of him. After all, if I wrote a book about spirits and wanted it to sell, of course I would deny their existence. Obviously... not!
You didn't even interview physicians or real scientists with knowledge and tons of evidence about near death experiences where consciousness behaves as if didn't depend on the brain. There's solid evidence if that's what you seek.
When I was in my 20's to 30'S I read several books pertaining to reincarnation, so it made sense to me that it was possible. My Dad passed away in 1957 due to injuries from a car accident. His kidneys dried up due to the Doctors giving him the wrong medication. He died at the young age of 56. Before he died his kidneys were removed to get ready for a transplant. Other complications set in, & the transplant never took place, but I saw the scars on his stomach & sides from the removal of the kidneys. In 1970, my son was born, & he had scars exactly like my dad had from the removal. The scars stayed with him, but slowly faded as he got older. Anyway, I am convinced my son is my dad, reincarnated !
NDE in 2018 left me with a lot of answers, and yet I'm convinced, that it's best to live the life normally and pretend not knowing. Not to rock the boat. Not to freak others out with strange conversations, or having to be expected to provide evidence. I always joke, that when I came back, I didn't bring souvenirs. The truth is that we're all instances of the architect with amnesia. When we die, we recall temporarily, what the game is about, and that immediately makes us want to go back in. To keep coming back. That's why there are so many people. No matter how miserable this place - living is addictive. It's interactive. It's a state that's only possible here. You have to remember what it's like to be god, to appreciate fully, what it's like to not be one.
How come Rabbis seem to have a relaxed, jovial presentation when asked profound questions? Anyway, I'm also on this journey to understand after death stuff.
Because they don't take their ability to find answers to them entirely seriously. There is no theology in Judaism, strictly speaking. It's mostly considered beyond us. So, we might as well laugh about it as do anything else!😄
Louis Black once said, "yes, I'd like to live after I die, but... I think!" No actual evidence or proof was offered here. In the end, Lawrence went with what he wanted to be true. That's fine, but for me, I'm making the best of my life. It's the only one I'm sure I will get.
Life has only one purpose: to survive. We don't know anything before or anything after - who would want to stay on this god forsaken nightmare of a planet anyway.
Despite the wide anecdotal stories of NDE's, I have a brother and 3 close friends who were 'dead' (one was actually pronounced) before being revived. All of them told me they remember nothing. They equate it with going under anesthesia prior to surgery then waking up 3 or 4 hours later feeling that only minutes have gone by. In my brothers case it was 5 weeks. I know many have a hard time with this concept, but before we were conceived/born, we experienced nothing. And that is what it is like when we die.
@@jerryrogers4825 Nothing would give me greater joy than to be with my daughter who succumbed to cancer at age 25 with so much to live for. I see and interact with her in my dreams. I 'talk' to her during my day. But unfortunately think this is all in my mind. Just like it is in yours. All of us alive "know" deep down in our hearts what death is. Because we have been there, before we were born.
@Qigong Master Not proven. Not believed. Experienced. Where and what were you before being conceived in your mother's womb? Why would a brief existence open the door for something different? The most minute forms of life have a beginning and an end. I think we are no different. Saying we as humans are because we have such a highly developed brain that can grapple with abstract concepts does not prove otherwise.
@Qigong Master How can you say there is "definitely something" after we die? What? You have realistically the same experiences I have. You didnt exist, now you do, and then??? What makes you continue existing after your brain is destroyed by death?
Just a little reminder, no matter where you live on earth, what color your skin is or religious beliefs, we are all immortal, spiritual beings of light, who love and cherish each other. You have just forgotten who you are and where you’re from and that we are one collective source of energy from a different realm and dimension. Your consciousnesses and your soul are one in the same. Earth is not your true home and the ‘real you’ wasn’t born here. The place your consciousnesses goes when you die or cross over, as some like to say, is going back to your ‘real home’. It’s simply a matter of closing your eyes here and reopening your eyes there, It is instantaneous to us. Every human on the planet will all eventually see what I’m saying is absolutely and undeniably, 100% correct and true. Again, one day you will all see that every person on this planet comes from the same realm of existence and have been around since time immemorial. All of us are one collective source. Think of yourself as a raindrop and everyone else as the ocean. Again, we are all one. You have lived many, many lifetimes through reincarnation, hundreds or possibly thousands of times. More than likely, you have been every race, gender and lived from every time period. Again, you are immortal and have died many times throughout history. When it’s time for your soul to return to earth, you and your soul guardian (Spiritual Guide) will pick your life’s blueprint of what you’re going to do and accomplish, including who your parents are going to be. Your aren’t meant to remember this in your human life, but discover these lessons throughout life. God will put people in your path to help you along your way. The journey to achieving success and fulfilling your goal’s will help grow your soul immensely. If everyone was just told what they had to do, or easily remembered, they would just rush to get through it and go back home. They wouldn’t be able to properly get what was needed out of life. The one thing I do know for absolute certainty, is that the core learning for each soul, is the ability to love one another and show compassion for each other, no matter who they are, or where they’re from. For each of us, once you have accomplished these goals set by God, your Spiritual Advisor and you, you will only come back if you want to, and if you feel like you lack in some other area of your life. Please stop the wars and fighting amongst each other and start to love and cherish one another. Pray to the Heavenly Father daily and read his book and his message daily. Spread his word of love and repent any sins. Ask him to come into your life and guide you on the path of salvation and healing. We are spiritual beings having a physical experience, not physical beings having a spiritual experience. The last words Jesus spoke on the cross: ‘Father, forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing’. If you need any other perspective or guidance, watch the episodes called: (The Ghost inside my Child), and NDE’s, (Near Death Experience) testimonials. A lot of these are on RUclips, but you can also find some on the premium’s as well. I watched complete episodes of ‘Ghost’, on Prime. All the NDE episodes, I watched on RUclips. My first testimonial I watched about a year ago, was of a Neurosurgeon named, Eben Alexander. He was in a coma for 2 weeks and died several times from meningitis. After listening to his hour long testimony, I just started watching everything I could find on the topic, before long, I was a changed person. People that were born blind or deaf, could see and hear perfectly during their NDE. This one woman I saw had died on the operating table for about 5 minutes and had been born deaf, when she was brought back, she was able to tell all her family and doctors, exactly what they were talking about in the operating room, the whole time she was clinically dead. She wrote down word for word what each of them had said and done for 5 minutes. They were all in shock, how could she know what they said if she was dead and deaf since birth? These testimonies are simply amazing. If you’ve ever had a family member or close friend die accidentally, perhaps from drowning or on the operating table, for example, ask them if they had an experience on the other side. Most have, they just don’t like talking about it because of the ridicule. Even doctors don’t want to hear about it, cause it goes against everything they were taught in school. For most people, it’s the same as believing or talking about aliens. They just can’t except something that goes beyond what their mind can comprehend. I can totally understand that to, cause I use to be the same as them. Watch as many of the episodes as you can, because you will get a broader, more detailed understanding of what it’s all about and what’s to come. Everyone has a different experience and will witness and see a vast range of environments, it’s all determined by what god feels you need at the time of your NDE. This will completely change your life for the better and you will never fear life or death again. It will give you a complete sense of peace and perspective, that you have never felt before. I use to believe that when you died, it was just lights out and that’s it, nothing more. Good grief, was I wrong! You will become exponentially more compassionate towards people and animals. You will learn to love yourself first and foremost. I completely understand if you can’t and/or won’t initially except some of what I’m telling you at first. But I do hope and pray that you will try to expand your mind from what you’ve been taught. I’ve had some ask me about the situation with babies or young children and cancer or illness, disease and ‘why god takes them at such a young age’. Saying, ‘how’s that fair, they didn’t do anything to deserve that’ or ‘why would they pick a life just to turn around and die’. I initially had issues with all that as well, but over time and learning, it became clear that sometimes the life blueprint that’s picked, is not always about you, but those you choose to be born unto. A mother or father may need to experience/learn humility or sacrifice and yes, sadly the suffering for the loss of a child, just to name a few. I know it sounds cruel but for whatever reason, it was ultimately necessary and Gods plan. We’re not meant to know or understand everything, that’s essentially in Gods hands. I was a devout nonbeliever and hardcore sceptic, (as most people are these days) when I first heard about this, but the more knowledge you learn and acquire, the more you will realize it all to be true and not just a ‘nice story’, as one guy responded back to me recently. Please don’t ignore this, it has everything to do with why you’re here. Some things are true whether you believe them or not. I would like to say though, that I’m not in any way an expert on the subject or claim to know everything, not even close. I encourage you to do your own research and come to your own conclusions. Sorry this was so long, I’m just really passionate about this topic now. God Bless You!
It does not MATTER that is LIFE after death. It is not a matter of LIF as in BIOLOGICAL LIFE. It will not matter in the next LIFE if you do not REMEMBER this life. I would like a long healthy life but really, I do not want to live to be 120, let alone FOREVER.
that's not what people say whom have crossed over..they describe it as the most beautiful experience ever! even more beautiful than earth existence. so i wouldn't make such a dumb comment.
You know, before I saw all those fools hoarding toilet paper last year I used to entertain the idea of immortality. Now? Forget it. One time around is bad enough
I relate to what you say. Welcome to the club ! I don't know If I lived many lives before but this one will be the last. I knew that what we call humanity was petty in nature but this episode of toilet paper gave me the evidence that I thought right Greetings from France
I am informed by the poet, Robert Frost, who wrote, "Heaven gives its glimpses to those not in position to look too closely." How like observer entanglement this statement reflects. In a universe so large, here lies the indications that being human is significant. Life and consciousness are deep mysteries of which we are a part. By day we seek solid proofs, by night we dream. We know not from where we came, we know not where we are going.
If we accept the multiverse hypothesis then, all four options might be viable in different verses, perhaps or even infinite other options. More to the point, though, isn't it, not so much for the departed to know/believe than to the society to have such options to accommodate various degrees of skepticisms and manage the topology of cultures, languages and various other societal quasicrystals?
If you do believe in an afterlife: What if you are currently living in your afterlife? Couldn't this current state be an afterlife from previous lives? What makes anyone think or believe this state of being is the start of it all? I'm just curious because I don't believe in an afterlife and I'm just trying to learn what others think about. Thank you for this episode. I love how you get soooo many view points and help us through learning and expanding our thought process. Great job.
We don't believe this is an afterlife because everything and everyone decays and dies here. In an afterlife, we would expect to be immortal. Also, this world has many faults, it's not much of a good afterlife in my opinion.
Eben Alexander, MD survived an attack by bacteria on his brain, putting him in a coma for a week, providing this trained scientist with his own experience of life after death. On recovery he sat in on the medical discussion about what had happened to him in which he could analyze the consciousness he had experienced in view of what medical science understands. All explanations required a functioning brain, especially a neocortex, which, in his case was being eaten by microbes. He wrote "Proof of Heaven" to share what he had learned from his Near-Death Experience. "I understood how blind to the full nature of the spiritual universe...I had been, who had believed that matter was the core reality. I explored this revelation in my 2nd book, "Surviving the Micronova: This Train is on the Track." Millions of people have had Near Death Experiences because advances in medical technology and its accessibility to many more people, yet ignored by most research.
@@allenheart582 near death experience is not fully dieing. Hence NEAR death. Or else doctors would call them resurrections or coming back to life without a doctor's help. I'm not taking away his personal experience, but it's just his view and opinion on his own experience. Also, brain damage sometimes causes hallucinations and alters focus. The afterlife sounds great, but if you can't report from the afterlife to reality & visa versa in a consistent undoubtedly way that would make scientist stop their studies to focus on the afterlife to show all humanity that it really exists, then how can we believe it's true? Through stories? Should we buy their books and believe in them as evidence of afterlife or evidence that they had an experience?
@@WE_R_DNA Reporting on people's experiences is no less research than reporting on what can be observed through a microscope, telescope, or from exploring the lunar surface. In fact, since over a million people have reported their NDE, there are many more observers of the same experience so there is much more opportunity to cross-reference, compare and contrast those reports. For example, the significance of what the lunar explorers observed was very under-reported and hidden by classification. Few know about the glassy shrapnel containing nucleotides only produced in solar interiors. The whole Apollo program was launched to confirm classified information that our sun does nova on a cycle of 12,000 years and that is beginning its repeat NOW. More detail in my 2nd book, Surviving the Micronova.
The bottom line is that Nobody knows. If you believe in God, there is life after death. If you are atheist, the life journey finishes at death and if you are Buddhist you reincarnate in the body of someone else in the future until you reach Nirvana. Basically you have 3 choices.
As I consider it, the transition between Life and Death (not that any of us are ever born; neither do any of us ever die) is happening all the time, over and over again and again, until such time the indefinite continuing process of existence as we understand it, and have measured it in hours and minutes either past midnight or noon, day after day after night after day, appears a thing no more. Yet, come the hour of changeover nothing should feel so real as non-reality, does it remain a point of perception; of our ability to distinguish it at times all but too fleetingly the form once fixed now formless. Although the sense of everything within Life as we live and know it varies, the essence of without does not, Love's lot the gift given whole, the holiest gift of all and Death no departure from it. And this duality we are all experiencing within our existence and at the exact same time, is something of a parallel. It is all part of the one never-ending vibration which beyond our localised awareness is referred to as universal consciousness.Thus, neither does consciousness have a beginning nor an end, it merely assumes the activities of either a finite mechanism for thinking or it simply does not think at all, because it does not need to submit to the authority of knowing itself as we are wont to do, an ever- evolving concept within it. That nothing in Life matters so much as Love, and that Love is in form of no material thing we can physically touch and yet, we feel it more profoundly than any other state to be so completely informed by it, neither does the stuff of dreams nor dream-makers die that the dreamer is no more, they have simply relocated.
I PRAY there is NOTHING after this. My life has been a lesson in pain, misery and hate. I do my best to prevent these thing in the lives of other because I have empathy, and it hurts ME to see others in pain. I don't pretend my altruism is anything but self service. I also don't pretend I have done NO good. If there is Karma, I should have a life at least free from daily suffering. But physics does not apply when I try to do anything simple. There seems to be a pain in every movement. If you were to film my day, and catch the universe, it would be a comedy because no one would believe the daily misfortune I face when I have no other observer. But it doesn't happen when another is paying attention to me. Let their attention drift, or let me be out of their field of vision, and the predator of misfortune returns to gain the joy of filling me with hate for attempting anything. If I meet a "god" when I die, I will scream with ALL the Hate and rage it put into me that "The light was NO good!!!". I will tell it that it truly "loves" me is will remove from existence. Do it's "plan" without me. There is NO afterlife worth the evil of this existence. I would gladly kill my father before I was born if it meant I did not have to "be". I don't care about YOUR tales of sorrow. I will never meet you. /If I did, I would everything in my power to stop your suffering, so I didn't have to witness it. Make of that what your. god, refuses to do that for me. He better PRAY he doesn't exist.
@Dharma Defender I believe God but not Karma. I'm not perfect but I'm polite, generous, grateful and yet bad things happen to me. The more positive I am the worse it gets. But yet, I watch complete jerks get good things happening to them. What do you think that is?
I tend to agree with you. This world is starting to look more and more like hell for everyone. Perhaps we've committed some crime we don't remember and that's why we're here. I don't know
Some of us hope for something beyond death. We don't know the answers but we want to believe. We'll not know until the moment of our death,where we will be going or if that is the end of our existence. Another probable phenomenon, is "Spirits" who sometimes encounter the living. Some may call it a haunting,as they have not left their space and "live" on.
With regard to messages being transmitted and stored within the brain… I’d like to point out that electrical energy is NOT transmitted IN wires but actually in the electrical and magnetic fields AROUND the wires. I’m not certain how this ties into your investigations but it seems relevant.
You are EXILES. The human race is a hybridization of two opposed races. The dead reptilian race blue blood race and the light beings representing the red blood. Homosapien human being. Sapien means to be wise and with poisonous juices. Etymology of Sapien back to sanskrit(saep) means snake. And the Lord God made to Adam and to his wife vestures of honour from the skin of the serpent, which he had cast from him, upon the skin of their flesh, instead of that adornment which had been cast away; and He clothed them. You are eloheem (a god) you are a child of the most High. The earth is death Death is a lie You are born into death. You will become alive when you are converted (rectified reconciled reborn) Matrix means womb from the word mater which means mother. Watch the vid ruclips.net/video/7v554QtlGKs/видео.html
My mother passed away six years ago at the general hospital in my hometown Gothenburg Sweden. I got a phonecall from the hospital that I have to hurry up if I wanted to say goodbye to her, when I got there she already had passed away. So I stayed in the room for an hour or so and then I took the elevator down to the ground floor where there were no people in that long corridor. suddenly a white light turned up about ten meters up to my right it was the size of a golfball and it came towards me, when it touched my right shoulder I could actually feel some weight. I instantly turned around and I could see it fade away. I felt like it was my mother wanted to say Im fine...
Described the same white orbs I've come close to on a few occasions.
My condolences
Gunnar, I was also too late to say goodbye to my mother. I could’ve stayed at the hospital but chose to go home to try to get some rest. I got the call as you did & I missed her passing by literally a few minutes. My mother told me people often pass away before their loved ones come to their side to spare them the moment of passing, so I think about it this way. Your mother will love you unconditionally whether you were there at her passing or not. Don’t worry, she is ok, either been reincarnated & is already living a new life or you will meet her again in another state of being..all is good.
Awesome story buddy. God bless your Mom.
God bless her
I got a kick out of the atheist guy. Coming from someone who has had a near death experience. This guy is in for a rude awakening. Not only do we exist on a conscious level after our physical death, but any ailments that we are suffering from whether physical, mental, emotional or spiritual, or all healed in the afterlife. It’s both a blessing, and a curse to have this knowledge, while still alive here, and have people like this guy, close, minded, and unwilling to accept that anything could possibly exist beyond his ability to know.
Atheists are pretty much just illogical in the idea there is no God, nature is too complex to have just "happened"! denying the existance of a Creator makes no sense at all, it is just Ignorance.
That sounds like wishful think.
@@williamdillard5060 I didn't know that a personal experience is now wishful thinking. Is your current existence a wishful thinking too?
I don’t know who this will help but this is some food for thought: My grandfather passed away last year and I never got to say goodbye to him. We’d always talk about family history at the diner (he gave me an old scrapbook in the event he passed). A few months after he died I dreamt that I was with him in a diner, and he had the scrapbook and told me to open it because “I left something for you.” When I woke up I opened it and found a hidden letter from him, at the bottom it said my name. I sent this to all my family. To this day, I wonder “Was it really Grandpa?” I choose to believe it was.
To all you dear ones who grieve or wonder: an honest skeptic will concede that we simply do not know enough to, out of hand, dismiss the quiet assurance, and the numberless testimonies of humble witnesses that comfort and provoke contemplation about the profound poetry of the human experience. It's expressly human to entertain such hope. Never surrender your hope or humanity to those who peddle despair, and would rob you of what's most sublime and super mundane. Let them despair, alone+++
Life doesn’t make sense
When my son was 3 he described exactly what happened the day he was born, he described the very distinct chair his father was sitting in, I was asleep, he said he looked down and said yes, that’s my mom and dad, and my husband says I woke up and began to push and the dr barely got in the room to catch him coming out. He told me that story twice. I can never forget this close to the truth. 🙏.
I don't believe you.
@@andrebrown8969 of course you don’t. But you did read it and reply. This is for you Andre Brown 🥇
@@missfriscowin3606 Yes.
Wow thats awesome! If that is not evidence i dont know what is thats great u got to experience that with your child
@@daryllneuburger4946 That is not how evidence works. That was an anecdote, an anecdote is not evidence.
My 2 yo son accompanied me to visit my mum's grave. I sat quietly crying , he waddled over to me and put his arm around my shoulder and gazed at the grave with me, strangely mature, he said " it's ok, it's ok, my 7 people died, it's ok" 😲
So I have to believe, 🤨 skeletons, and
ashes are going to resurrect?! Give Me
A break!!
Mark Miller the biological body does not live on, it’s the energy that is you that does (soul/spirit)
@@pollyanna6557 I know what you're
saying is true. My instinct, that little voice in our head, that the Bible got it
wrong on this. There will be "NO" ashes
or skeletons putting on a human form
again. Where did the souls or spirits go
that already died?! Did they rise up
already? Or where are they now?!
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Most interesting theory I have heard is that the brain is simply an antenna for consciousness. That also explains any brain injury, disease or condition that impacts people. This theory holds that it’s the same for all animals and their more limited brains result in a more limited consciousness.
Yes, Chris, you are on to something. The Hard Problem of Consciousness, the mental movie playing in our mind, is our spirit reading the symphony of neurons. Neurons have an electric charge going through them which will produce a field of energy that the spirit can "read". If part of the brain is injured then the messaging is garbled. Hundreds of thousand (if not millions) of people experiencing the Out-of-Body Near-Death Experience, with core experiences across cultures and beliefs, is hardly "so little evidence" of the spirit continuing to exist after our brain shuts down. Until our moral codes change to the point where we allow scientific experimentation of killing people in a controled environment and then resuscitating them to see if we can reproduce the experimental data, we are just going to have to take people's experiences as our best evidence.
@@gordonquimby8907 Spot on Gordon! Your thoughts mirror mine exactly. There are so many NDE reports, and they all tell a similar story. Many academics seem to know their specific subject but are unable to expand their knowledge into other areas. This leads to a shallow result whereby they need "scientific" proof before acknowledging anything outside of their realm. I was fortunate to experience the Akashic Records (by unintentional accident) 35 years ago, and now see things very differently to common beliefs.
Donald Hoffman
Agreed
"Most interesting theory I have heard is that the brain is simply an antenna for consciousness."
This makes sense to me, if paired with the possibility that there's some kind of elemental awareness present in all of reality. As the universe, with its various kinds of interconnections and networks, develops, that background awareness would be developed, refined and focused into increasingly more complex forms of consciousness. I'm agnostic about it. Or rather, my position varies a lot -- sometimes I lean toward believing that, and sometimes I lean against it. But I don't think this can preserve every single individual eternally. I think identity and self would prove to be things that emerge and regroup in different ways (which has already been found to be the case in some of the split brain studies). If you think about it, even if people's past life memories are accurate, they still aren't the same person that existed before them, so even if reincarnation has some truth to it, identity and self are much less rigid than people think when they talk about eternal souls.
What I don't think is supported is the resurrection of Jesus or anyone else. Much as I appreciate these explorations, I thought the inclusion of two people who made their view contingent on a supposedly historical event, without including the evidence against that event being historical, did slant the overall essay. To me, they were saying, we believe this because the book of our religious mythology says it, and that's it. Not useful in examining reality. It would be as if I interviewed a physicist about star formation and then interviewed a couple members of a UFO cult who said that stars were the children of the cult leader because he said so -- without including any objections to that cult or its leader. It slants the discourse. I guess I don't see what relevance pure religious doctrine has to the study of reality. People can believe whatever mythologies they choose, but when claiming one is the truth of reality, they should have to stick to evidence.
I held my 84yo Dad as he was dying. Suddenly his eyes opened and they had turned brilliant sky blue!!! He pointed weakly at something past me in cnr of room then exhaled and was gone, his eyes returned to faded instantly.
Is there evidence that this happens to other people.. Ive never heard of it. Surely it would be a common occurrence if true?
@@stevefmelb yes apparently it does, I had a lady tell me exact same thing happened with her mother. It's called " visioning" I volunteered in nursing homes and when ppl passed it was usually inactive and eyes closed, many ppl have eyes closed or alone at the moment of transition so it goes unnoticed. I can assure u it is to true. I have no reason to fabricate it. It changed my life, I feel I need to tell this experience every opportunity, hopefully helps some.
@@stevefmelb This is actually a really common occurance in hospice. Interestingly it can happen weeks, sometimes a month before passing. So it's not limited to their final hour/minutes
I have a story when i was 7 years old. When my grandfather died he visited me in my dream. I saw him cutting woods. He was wearing white clothes. We talked but i dont remember exactly what we did talked about. I do remember him leaving and asked if i can go with him. He then told me its not my time yet. As im older now i still remember that dream. It stucked with me. Im an atheist but i still do think there is something after death.
I had a profound visit from my late husband when I was away staying in a motel with my best friend to mark the one year anniversary of his passing. It was comforting and wonderful. His energy was powerful and sort of triumphant. Basically, look what I can do!
Where did he say he was? What is the afterlife?
@@ZBooneBeats he didn't speak or show himself, but he opened a locked and chained door, obviously no visible presence. I felt his energy, it was exactly one year to the day that he died.
I know there is an afterlife. It's got nothing to do with religious belief. They go there the second they die, they continue to take an interest in our lives if we were close, and they make their presence known whenever they like.
@@sonyavincent7450 A pathetic tale of credulity.
"You positively will not die(Genesis 3)" by disobeying your creator. The idea of life after death comes from the one "misleading the entire inhabited earth (Revelation 12:9)."
@@crisismanagement ...and Darth Vader said...
Robert says a few times that people would want to live forever. Not me. I feel joy that my body will die, and my existence will end then. I feel a certain bond with every other living thing throughout creation, with my being and ending. From each star in the sky, to every microbe, to a little lizard climbing the trees in the Triassic - I’m a temporary part of creation. I’ve had an okay existence; I don’t need to hold onto it.
You're right. We don't need to be so Anthro-centric.
In 2003, I was comatosed for several weeks. I was only on life support then. Haven't seen any white lights, angels nor demons. Nothing. But it was such a moment that I realized that death is something that is not to be feared, it is something that we must embrace.
like it or not, death will embrace you.
Υγεία να έχεις.
Errr WTF??? If it's an eternity of nothingness it definitely IS something to be feared!!!!
I want an afterlife ffs!! Where's your proof of an afterlife????
@@dommidavros2211 Doesn't matter what you want
Cause your not dead in an coma
I really like how simple yet profound the questions that make up the titles of the episodes are.
I believe in an afterlife where we revert to what we were before this one, that is is spirit Form. I believe we do not remember past
lives. A spirit is not of matter, it's like an idea, a thought, but I do believe we can be reborn
Kudos to Lawrence for the respectful demeanor he has for everyone he interviews.
as though he has any choice? You want him to throw chairs at them and then have no one to interview for his channel?
When he doesn't even show or delve into the evidence one of his guests spoke of, and just goes on to dismiss it as "weak" and doesn't even let the public decide for themselves, that is not respectful. At best he is display pseudo intellectuality.
No, it's all brain hallucinations.
I came to the comments to express appreciation for his maintaining his skepticism about claims that have proved dodgy in the past (messages from mediums).
I don’t understand why he dismisses NDEs as evidence so easily.
There where cases when brain activity was being monitored during an NDE and there wasn’t any.
because they are the worst of evidence
@@fraser_mr2009 why are they the worst evidence?
I don't know if NDEs are real or not. But it seems odd to me that Christians will see Jesus, Muslims will see Muhammad, Jews Moses etc. And only about 15 percent of resuscitated people will have an NDE which means that 85 percent do not. I myself was resuscitated after an accident 45 years ago and I remembered nothing but waking up.
That's because he's a non believer first off which I don't know why some wouldn't want a god? I just don't understand?
When I was a child, I would occasionally get this weird feeling that I'd been here before, and I'm not talking about dejavous,that's something else entirely.
I had NDE, no one can change my mind ,absolutely no one. I can recall step by step even it is almost 7 years ago.
I can
Can you tell us about it?
NDEs: there are vivid NDEs of experiences in and around hospitals, conversations of relatives several rooms away from the OR, things spoken by surgeons, 360 degree spherical visual field with a perspective outside the body, and in some cases while the brain is under the influence of ANESTHESIA! The point is that there usually is NO recollection of ANY experiences while the brain is anesthetized - no experience or dreaming, no recollection of time passing, is the norm. You’re out and back. So, how do you explain the NDE experiencer’s recollection of time and validated experiences early in the NDE if the brain is anesthetized? What is the origin of vision and hearing perception, and awareness of weightlessness? Where is the memory for these experiences stored if the brain biology is shut down?
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In Brain injury, there is indeed loss of components of function, BUT, these are losses of either the perceptual apparatus that takes in our 3D material world, or, the loss of neural areas responsible for motor movements, including speech. If the brain is like a computer, it has certain processing centers that function like subroutines or macros for such things as walking, breathing, reflex motor responses, chewing, speaking, etc., all related to the material machinery of the body. Volition to make a movement or speak or walk, for example, does not originate in the brain - brain center damages removing the ability to express volition does not destroy volition. It would be wrong to think that the lack of ability to speak what is on one’s mind, due to damage to the Brocca’s area, means that the mind and volition to speak is now absent. Many patients in comatose conditions who recover report that they still sensed their existence and even heard the conversations of relatives who visited their hospital bed, even though they could not speak or move.
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Another example: consider the amputee who can feel a phantom limb and desires to move it - the volition is there but not the motor mechanism of muscles. Even if stimulating certain neuronal regions in the brain can produce certain experiences of sensation (colors, emotions, e.g.), this does not account for the occurrence of volition, and such mental mindful things, like planning one’s future or selection of various options or activities to participate in (as in writing a comment on YT, e.g.). The brain material is not likely to initiate any optional higher level activity through spontaneous neuronal activity. However, involuntary motor movements can occur in such abnormalities as Tourette’s Syndrome and various Seizure disorders. Oddly, some part of the person having the seizure or random motor actuation is aware that they are having the movement, but that they did not ask it to occur. That portion of their consciousness remains in a normal state, while the brain circuitry misfires electrical signals - but again this is related to the machinery of the body, while a “soul” in communication with the body remains aware. My point: The inability of the body to express the volitions of the mind, does not cancel the presence of the mind. If the mind is tied exclusively to, emerges strictly from, neuronal sources, it couldn’t initiate the higher functions requiring volition. So, where does volition reside? When I decide to move my arm, what is deciding?
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As for a Benevolent God should prevent pain and suffering in the world: I think it’s a mistake to believe that if there was a God, that “he” would intervene and remove all sources of pain, even though he could. That is relegating to God what we, in the mind of God, should be responsible to eliminate. We are assigned the task of feeding the world, eliminating hunger, eliminating murder through moral training, seeing to it that peoples basic needs are met to eliminate crime. Believing there is no God because he hasn’t acted to do this is a stretch. In fact, Christians could argue that God has acted to influence us toward our responsibilities for this, through the teachings of Jesus, and through moral laws like the 10 commandments (to include Judaic foundations). The free will argument is applicable here, because love of God and love of neighbor requires it. Humans are permitted “free will” because the very nature of genuine love requires it. God cannot coerce people to love Him or their neighbor, but it surely could make a difference. Genuine Love, by definition, is absent of coercion and must originate in the one expressing love.
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Atheists have often been bludgeoned in their childhood with messages of guilt from religion and churches. Or, contrarily, have been criticized by their “scientific” peers and colleagues for wandering into “unorthodox beliefs”. This can seem an assault on one’s self-esteem. This repugnance for organized religion develops (and who can blame them), but it would be an over-reaction to completely dismiss other characterizations of God - throw the baby out with the bath water, so to speak. Repugnance is an emotional response, not an argument against God based on logical assertions. Ask an atheist if they experience any hint of repugnance. Their foundational arguments can be rationalizations that function to hide the emotion, though they will likely not admit it.
If there are other “spiritual dimensions”, or the existence of the soul, there might possibly be another invisibility we call God. Can’t have either one, because the atheist is repulsed. Or maybe they just prefer to be secure in knowing only that which is physically knowable and testable in materialism, to avoid criticism or speculative thoughts - it’s just a lot less complicated to see a more limited scope of scientifically verified assertions and observations.
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I also point to the mere complexity of physical organisms and the complex interdependencies of various living things as evidence of a God. Plants and animals gas exchange, DNA molecule and its ability to store the instructions for assembly of a complete human being or other life form, Sexual reproduction - the interdependence and fit of male and female and how this is more advantageous than asexual methods like parthenogenesis. It all seems too complex and statistically improbable to have “evolved” in a synchronous way through random mutations and processes. Thus I believe there is an intelligent designer behind the natural material world. How has matter emerged from, and particles and their properties come to be what they are? It is important to remember that just because you can describe the composition of matter, doesn’t mean you can create it ex-nihilo (from nothing). Only a “Creator” who sets the laws of physics in motion could have done it (intelligent design).
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In the end, I am a dualist.
Great points. Consciousness is truly a wondrous thing so much so that so called reductionists still cannot prove where the consciousness is located.
If there is some kind of existence after biological death, by definition it would be a different sort of existence. Some different mode of existence, existence on some different plane, or in some different world. What evidence would you expect to find of that while still in our present world?
Yes, you said it. It is not possible to bring evidence of that world. However there are people who had the Near Death Experience and brought back the picture of that world and they can only described by words. But again people says oh it is all hallucinations and product of brain due to oxygen deprivation. Anyway we all going to die one day and will see the reality and truth.
Perhaps at times other dimensions overlap the one in which we exist
@@ctrockstar7168 lol not very convincing
Dreams. I have had, many dreams of people I have never seen before.
@William Dillard because the vast majority of dreams involve mundane elements from our walking life, it stands to reason that strangers in pur dreams also come from walking life, even if we dont recognize them in our dreams. Certainly our brains are capable of inventing a unique person (although even "unique" creation would be composed of facial and body features that you've seen before) there is nothing necessarily preventing a sleeping brain from doing so. However , based on what dreams are and where dream content comes from, it's likely that strangers in your dreams are a version of someone you have seen in your walking life.
Robert Lawrence is a superb host..When intrigued by the prospect of an after life, you can see the genuine concern, hope and sincere interest on Roberts face (albeit in a casual manor) when statements are given. Its comforting to know he is as wide eyed interested as his viewers. Smooth & sharp interviewer. His Follow up questions & statements are always spot on. His balance must be appreciated. Kudos to you fine sir!
He has to be top 3 of all time. Multiverse level underated.
I love a show that deals in both hard science and the metaphysical.
Mark Twain, "I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” He could have added, "And after death, likewise."
There is an interesting comment below "The heart has memory too." Now retired many years ago, a heart transplant, before and after, was a part of my case 'load.' I still feel bound by the laws of privacy.
This person's new heart, of which I knew all the details, constantly communicated with his brain taking on the mental and physical characteristics of the donor which were dramatically different in each other's real life. He did not know his donor. There are such documentations on the net but when you see it happening as real events, it is mind boggling.
In what way?
I seen something like that on Twilight zone 🤔😊
One thing is certain, prof. Braude have with his research topic surely hit the gold mine, securing funding for his research for the remainder of his life...and for all I know into his afterlife.:)
If there was no afterlife why would we be brought into an existence to experience and learn as much as we could?
To cope with the reality that there is no afterlife.
we may be destined to invent time travel.
Learning and the knowledge of death are what drive many to become teachers.
Because your parents had sex. That’s the only reason any of us are here.
@@REDPUMPERNICKEL What?
Appreciate your work! Interesting questions and high quality content. It would be interesting to know why some of us think that this few moments in time (60-80 years of a lifetime) is all and there was nothing before and will be nothing after. Just look at a baby. Is he looks like it's coming from nowhere and going to nowhere? Is it possible to think that we and everything that surround us exist without any purpose? Every single particle of this creation is shaped based on precise laws and high mathematics. How could anyone believe that all this exist without reason?
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We're so concerned with the afterlife that we forget about the beforelife, even though it is the beforelife that determines our present condition.
arent you christan
The afterlife is the before life.
Over & over & over...
this earth is only One room in Our Heavenly Father's school for our Growth when we learn our lessons here we go on to our next school room and on and on we never stop growing!🥰😍💞💖💯👍
After my dad passed away of cancer I heard my dad spoke to me saying my name from the afterlife. He left this earth as but letted me know he's alright. In Jesus name he's nolonger suffering
Life after death was proven years ago in northern Europe when it was found that your 'consciousness' did not need a corporeal body to reside. A researcher placed sheets of paper with words and drawings on top of cabinets in several hospitals without anyone's knowledge. When people had died and then been resuscitated, they could tell what things were on the papers in their respective rooms. Only way to do that is if you mind does not need a body to survive and go on....
what about people who have died, came back and saw nothing?
@@mbolez maybe just don't have any recollection of the experience.
@@billyrankin8890 or maybe those that did just had oxygen deprivation. sounds a little more likely to me
@@mbolez what is your point exactly? are you just another person dismissing these profound experiences based off no experience yourself?
@@billyrankin8890 I'm not dismissing anyone. Basically stating what I believe to be more likely based on actual data and evidence. The original poster stated life after death was proven. That is a lie.
The interview with professor of philosophy J.P Moreland of Biola university is fascinating and he makes me want to read some of his many books and journal articles.
Now wait a minute. I had three medium-strength strokes (RIND-strokes) I was half paralyzed for three years and half a year and could not speak. I have short and long memory damage and a host of other issues. Thirteen years later I can now live a near-normal life, memories forgotten come flashing back, only to be forgotten the next day, they reappear months later. If the storage cells were damaged, how did the memories come back? The electricity that runs your body can never be destroyed only transferred or transformed. Humans are not batteries, we do not make current...so where is the static charge coming from and how is it still charged till death? Some sort of life source is powering things.
Humans are not batteries, true, but humans are very much a power generator, producing energy from food. There is no 'life source' powering things, it is food. And when you dig down you find that in the end all food obtains its energy directly or indirectly from the sun through photosynthesis. The sun is thus powering all life on earth. Everything is fusion powered
@@Eikenhorst If you have ever fasted for a period of time you would know it is not food.
@@MrSeacruise If you ever stopped eating completely for a month or two you know it very much is food that powers things. Are you saying that because your body can do pretty well with eating only once per day it doesn't get all its energy from food?
There are no "storage cells".
It's not electricity.
It's electro-chemistry and physiology.
There is no static charge.
You need to learn how neurons work.
The keyword is 'ionic'.
16:10 did he imply that he wants to plow her like a bean field? Disgusting. Subscribed.
The resurrection of the body implies the "whole" body, which includes the genitals you were born with, and he only insisted on mentioning that because of the obvious consequences from having fully functioned genitals in a ressurrected body....Maybe people choose to not eat or piss or defecate with their ressurrected "imortal" body, but it´s resonable to expect people to keep wanting to have sex
And meth.
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🐟 09. REINCARNATION (OR NOT):
There is NOTHING about the individual person (that is, the “ego”, as defined in the following chapter) which transfers to another body after death, except, perhaps, habitual tendencies in the form of indelible mental impressions (“vāsanā”, in Sanskrit).
For example, in my present incarnation, I have a strong affinity for the culture of Bhārata (India), a highly-advanced intellectual capacity, a very slim body, and an attraction to a frugivorous diet. That suggests there was an Indian spiritual master in the previous century which had some (or perhaps, even all) of these characteristics, but it was not “ME”, since what I am now is this ever-mutable Australian-born Aryan gentleman.
These “subtle mind impressions” are known in psychology as the “collective unconscious”, in new-age spirituality as the “akashic records”, and in Islam as the “Preserved Tablet”. There is an abundance of evidence that humans are born with certain psycho-emotive links to previous persons, times and places. It is far beyond the purview of this document to list such evidences. As mentioned, in my case, I have an EXTREMELY strong association with all things Indian, despite not being of Indian origin, and the “collective unconscious” hypothesis seems to be the best explanation for this bond currently available, in my opinion (although the term “collective conscious” would, perhaps, be more accurate).
For the popular view of reincarnation to be plausible, there would need to be an entity or an OBJECT called a “soul” (“jīva” or “ātman”, in Sanskrit), which somehow finds a copulating couple, then enters the woman’s uterus, to inhabit a zygote.
Assuming the existence of an individual spiritual soul is profoundly illogical, because spirit is (by most definitions) the antithesis of finite matter. Therefore, how can an immaterial “soul” be confined to a single person’s body?
It seems rather strange to believe that the universe was organized naturalistically in such a manner as to recycle an object called a “soul”, or even to recycle minds, particularly when one understands that a mind is naught but a series of flickering thoughts, feelings, and memories.
Some believe that the “thing” which transfers to the next incarnation are the remnants of one's actions (“vāsanā” or “saṃskāra”, in Sanskrit) or at least one's psychological disposition (likes, dislikes, phobias, etcetera). This is far closer to the idea of the collective unconscious, and even if it is a perfectly accurate account of what occurs after death, it still cannot give substance to the notion of a SEPARATE individual which is travelling from one body to another and again to another (“saṃsāra”, in Sanskrit).
According to the law of conservation of energy, first proposed and tested by Émilie du Châtelet, energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another. Both this law, and Dr. Leonard Susskind's minus-first law of physics, states that energy/information is indestructible.
The analogy of one candle being lit by another candle is apt. Are the two flames the same flame or completely different flames? According to those laws, PART of the energy is transferred from one wick to the other wick, a portion of the energy is released by the flame, and part of the energy remains with the original candle.
Regarding reincarnation, a rather appropriate analogy could be that of a whirlpool in a stream of liquid. A whirlpool is a definite form within a river but, just like the human form itself, it is never static. Some water molecules which were once swirling within one whirlpool may move farther downstream, mix with other water particles, and form a new, distinct whirlpool.
So, in my particular case, it is eminently possible that a vast amount of “Indian energy” was transferred to my psyche from one or more persons from Bhārata (the proper name of the country), plus the addition of genetic matter from my Persian parents and their Aryan heritage. The fact that BOTH Iranians and North Indians are Aryan seems to add further credence to my hypothesis, even if to a small degree.
Of course, there is no conclusive proof for such types of claims at this stage in human history, but the evidence is certainly extant, and as mentioned, the profusion of evidence available goes far beyond the purview of this document. One ought to do one's own thorough research into the matter, rather than relying on anecdotal testimonies. There are several well-documented books and videos published on the subject.
There is not the slightest doubt in my mind that my essential nature has NOT transferred from one body to another body, because I have fully understood and realized, by practicing the four systems of yoga/religion described in Chapter 16, that my true nature is Brahman (see Chapters 06 & 10 to learn of the Real Self). There is no such thing as a “soul” or “spirit”, unless, of course, one defines those words to mean the subject (that is, the observer of all temporal phenomena), and logically, the subject cannot be an object, at least in the transactional sphere.
When I die, my physical body, composed of the five gross material elements (“sthūla-śarīra”, in Sanskrit), will be reabsorbed into the biosphere, whilst the non-tangible aspect of my body, composed of the three subtle material elements (“sūkṣma śarīra”, in Sanskrit), will possibly merge with the collective unconscious, and the story of my life will come to an end FOREVER. See Chapter 05 regarding the eight elemental groups. It seems likely, judging by the evidence, that the “vāsanā” of a deceased person may transfer to more than a single individual. That explains why there are so many persons at once claiming to be the reincarnation of certain famous personalities.
This fact is difficult for many to accept, since they are thoroughly attached to their pseudo-egos, their intellects, their minds, their bodies, and their possessions. However, when one realizes that one is, fundamentally, not an ever-mutating psycho-physical organism, but, essentially, never-changing, all-pervasive CONSCIOUSNESS, all fears are alleviated.
The only “thing” remaining of a person at the time of death is the only “thing” which has ever “existed” - Pure Unalloyed Awareness, or Eternal-Conscious-Peace (“sacchidānanda”, in Sanskrit). We do not normally dread the dreamless portions of our nightly sleep cycles, so why would we fear a more permanent period of existence similar to deep-sleep? This existential crises is the basis of most all angst and uneasiness. So, fear not - death is a normal, NATURAL, and even a necessary consequence of conception. That which has a beginning, surely must end.
Putting aside whether or not reincarnation is an accurate account of what happens in this world, it is ABSOLUTELY certain that we receive a completely new body approximately every seven years (via a gradual process, of course). Our first body was a microscopically-sized zygote and our present body is several kilograms heavier. From where has all that extra weight come? Obviously, it came from all the nutrients that we have absorbed via the umbilical cord in our mother's uterus, or via the food, air and water we have consumed since birth.
Therefore, one who believes that he is nothing more than the body-mind organism is grossly ignorant of basic biological science. Genetically, approximately half of the cells in the body are not even of human origin, believe it or not! We can all easily understand that our infantile body is completely and utterly different to our present-day form, so logically, our true identity must be something quite APART from it. Nothing, including one’s genetic code, remains constant from conception to death. The sense of self does not even make its appearance in our psyche until two or three years after conception. Therefore, a person is more accurately defined as a process (a verb), rather than an object (a noun).
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For the sake of philosophical IMPARTIALITY, it is germane to acknowledge the perspectives of other eminent pundits. E.g. In “Bhagavad-gītā”, one of the very greatest spiritual authorities the world has ever known, Lord Śri Krishna, uses the analogy of how the individual person (“ego”, in Latin, or “jīvātman”, in Sanskrit) travels through the various stages of life (that is, from childhood, to pubescent adulthood, to geriatric), with His description of the process of reincarnation, as conceived by the ancient seers (“ṛṣi” [rishi], in Sanskrit) of India (“Bhārata”, in Sanskrit).
“...each person is destined to die once...”
Anonymous (possibly Paul of Tarsus),
Letter to the Hebrews, 9:27.
N.B. Ironically, the author of the above letter was a close disciple (or at least a follower) of Lord Jesus of Nazareth, who, according to the New Testament portion of the Judeo-Christian holy book, raised his acquaintance, Lazarus, from the dead. Logically speaking, Lazarus must surely have died more than one time, as did the many dead persons who were supposedly raised from their graves at the crucifixion of Lord Jesus.
Assuming that Paul was the author of the Letter to the Hebrews, he himself even raised a young man from the dead (although, in that case, the man, Eutychus, was dead for only a very short period of time, so it was likely that he was merely unconscious, rather than fully deceased).
OBVIOUSLY, the writer means that, generally speaking, each individual person is destined for one life alone, as opposed to any alternative scenario such as reincarnation. Yet, as we now know, humans beings are not stable objects, but ever-mutating processes of mind and matter.
“The entity that is supposed to be reincarnated in another body, does not even itself exist, except as a concept!
How can a mere concept be reborn?”
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“When you are dead, you will be back in the primordial state of rest, which existed before you were born; that stillness before all experience.
It is only the false sense of a limited, separate 'me', that deprives life of its meaning and gives death an ominous significance, which it really does not have.”
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“The fear of death, is actually a product of the desire to perpetuate one's identity.
Were you not dead before you were born?
Those who know Reality, know the falsehood of life and death.”
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“What is born, must in due course, die.
The objective body, will thereafter be dissolved and irrevocably annihilated.
What was once a sentient being, will be destroyed, never to be reborn.
But consciousness is not objective - not a thing at all.
Therefore, consciousness is neither born nor dies, and certainly cannot be 'reborn'.”
Ramesh Balsekar,
Indian Spiritual Teacher.
“Who are those persons who pass away leaving the ‘I’ intact? What exactly passes away leaving the ‘I’ intact? It is a body and its corollary, the world, that pass away. That is, particular sensations and perceptions disappear. That is all we can be sure of. However, sensations and perceptions are disappearing all the time.
The ‘I’ is not a body. The ‘I’ is a thought that identifies awareness with a body. The ‘I’ passes away every time that thought ceases.
All we know of death is that certain sensations and perceptions cease. There is no evidence that thinking and imagining cease at death. In fact, there are numerous reports of the mind surviving the death of the body (to go back to conventional language), but no reports of the mind disappearing along with the body.
And this is exactly what happens when we fall asleep. The thinking, sensing and perceiving that we call the ‘waking state’ dissolve, but their energies leave a subtle residue which in turn arises as new thoughts, images, sensations and perceptions, which we call the ‘dream state’. In other words, a new body, mind and world appear in awareness in the dream state.
When we wake in the morning, we don’t think ‘Oh, I reincarnated last night’, but in fact we did! That is, awareness took the shape of thinking, imagining, sensing and perceiving, and one of the forms that thinking took was the form of a particular thought that identifies itself, awareness, with one particular sensation called the body. That is reincarnation, to believe oneself to be a body and to seem, as a result, to live in a body.
Reincarnation simply means to identify with a body. We do it numerous times every day, not just once a lifetime. And every time we disidentify with a particular body-mind we die as that apparent entity and realise ourself as awareness.
This process continues in the waking state as well as the dream state, only this time we take it for real rather than as a dream. But during the dream itself, the appearance of a body and a world seemed equally real as the waking-state body and world. We have no way of knowing from within the waking state whether or not it is a dream, just as we have no way of knowing from within the dream itself whether or not the dream is real.
However, we are not in the waking state any more than we are in a dream. We are awareness, and the waking state appears in us, as does the dream state. There is no difference, from the point of view of reality, if such can be said to have a point of view, between the waking and dream states. They are both appearances in awareness and made only out of awareness.
In other words, neither incarnation nor reincarnation ever really happens. They just seem to happen. Therefore they never really cease to happen. They just seem to cease. The experience of love, peace or happiness is the experience of the cessation of the dream of incarnation.”
Rupert Spira,
English Spiritual Teacher.
Yes he did.
Bless your beautiful son and all your family
I love how Nancy out of nowhere was thinking that Robert was alluding to sex ("what we'll we do besides talking in heaven"). Naughty, naughty :)
Glad someone else noticed that. It sure is interesting how religious fanatics are obsessed with sex yet preech about how shameful and sinful it is..
No marriage in heaven 🙄 so my wife won't be my wife I'm guessing 🤔
When water is frozen it is ice and when heated it is steam it’s still water. Life is the same. Whether in a living body or without one life is “always”.
I’m not closed to the idea that there is an afterlife, but I think it’s fair to assume that we wouldn’t be “us” as we are in the current sense. For one, your memories, personality etc. are all DEMONSTRABLY stored in your brain. You knock out the right part of the brain and you can knock out aggression for example. You knock out a different part and you can wipe out memories.
Okay, so science can explain the FUNCTION and performance of memory, personality, vision, etc… but currently (and maybe permanently) it can NOT explain why there is something it *feels like* to have a memory or see the color red (conscious experience).
So, perhaps there is something super-physical about consciousness. However, we can also clearly see that consciousness is directly fed/ tied to the physical brain in very non-trivial ways.
So, I think about afterlife the same as before-life. Were we conscious before we were born in this life? Possibly yes. But we don’t remember it. It doesn’t matter to us.
Now there is no a priori reason to assume that afterlife and before-life would be the same, but I tend to lean towards the belief that an afterlife would be equally detached from our current life in the same sense.
So, yes, I would love to live forever as much as most people, but it just doesn’t seem very likely and it seems even less likely that it would be “us” in the sense of our current selves.
3 things prove it to me personally, knowing all the people who were important and I was destined to meet, their names were very clear when I was 4., Constantly wondering if I would get it right this time, as if I had done this all before. Having an OBE and meeting my buddy who had died in a car accident, letting him know it was his time to move on to the next world. And then a few weeks later learning about his accident and how it happened, exactly what I saw in the OBE, and just having OBE's, how it seems that we tune into different realities based on frequency, like tuning a radio to a station. And experiencing other bodies that are not of physical form, yet being just as concious or even more concious during these kinds of experiences.
If you can exist in this lifetime you can too exist in next time because your existence in this current life itself is a miracle.
Miracles are simply events lacking explanations.
One cannot draw dependable conclusions from events lacking explanation.
Like Jesus healed people during his time; 3 people in our family in the last century ere healed by the 7th son of the 7th son. My mother in 1920 was headed by a termal crippling disease. My brother's vocal cords were healed in the 60's. And and my dad knee was healed in the 70's. That's all the proof I need.
The problem with ethereal discussions like this is religion almost always gets drawn into it. Invariably religionists point at their guiding texts for all the answers about an afterlife and look no further or bend alleged "evidence" of an afterlife to conform to their beliefs. The issue with that and specifically faith is that it's not proof or evidence of anything. "I think it therefore it is" doesn't fly you to the moon. The only thing thst can be said for sure is if there is an afterlife there is not an incurruptable method to repeatedly demonstrate its existence, yet.
Good job. The life, earth and the universe are full of secret mysteries that still beyond human comprehension. Keep on exploring. Appreciate your good work and way of thinking ..
While sitting in a convertible watching the moon and starts after an admittedly late night out my friend turned an said something that largely sums up much of this topic in only four words: “Faith, is it’s own reward!”
Faith feels rewarding because it allows you to believe in things you wish to be real, not things which have evidence for them. So it makes you feel good, like kids have faith in Santa.
You wouldn't believe it, but only now I understand how the episode numbering works! That is my step closer to truth today
Please enlighten us!
@@sciencenotstigma9534 Last two numbers are the episode numbers within the season. The first number(s) are the season number, this is season 2. So this is the first episode of series 2.
At 69 years old I have spent the last 55 years pondering such things. I have never been religious as I believe that organised religion can only be, at best, an attempt to explain the true purpose of our existence. A little like watching an early flickering movie where the glimpses we have of the truth are the images we see on the screen, whereas the real truth is hidden from our eyes in those flickering moments in-between the visible frames. I am drawn towards the moments in-between, not the religious doctrines of the visible frames.
At 14 I wondered why very similar stories from our remote past seem to pop up in various religions and cultures around the world. I interpreted it then as events that were maybe many thousands of years being passed on verbally until at last we were able to write down our folk memories, which of course by then had gradually changed and diverged over time into the religious texts we see today.
It was not until I came across reincarnation stories that I found something that seemed to speak truly to me. Of course that then prompted the question if reincarnation is true why does this occur. That lead me into consideration of karma. Are we meant to work out our previous mistakes and what is it we are meant to learn before attaining enlightenment and eventually nirvana. Are we merely the new born child that has no idea yet of life really is and yet somehow has to graduate before moving onto our full potential that I believe is outside of this physical existence. I think this is the reason for reincarnation but we have no external teacher, we have to become our own teacher at our own pace, we have to understand through experience. I have recently come across the Chinese philosophy of Tao, and the idea of not fighting the flow but going with it resonates with me as well. Ultimately it does not matter what I believe because whatever happens is part of a natural process and I cannot alter that. I can only continue to ask questions and accept that sometimes the answers DO come from somewhere outside of myself and in that process I can move forward.
How long do you think humans would voluntarily stay in this madhouse if they knew *(beyond any doubt)* that they will continue on after death in (presumably) a higher and better context of reality?
Great point. There would be mass suicide.
Precisely, William. And if there had been mass suicide early on because it was somehow proven that life continues on after death, then none of the nearly 8 billion humans presently alive on this planet would have ever come into existence. Which is why it is imperative that such truths remain hidden from humans.
Whatever the options we come up with, it's probably something different again which underpins the unknown. All we can say is that if life and death exist, and neither can be truly understood even with the evidence of our own experience and/or scientific knowledge, then what chance is there that we can speculate correctly about another form of existence?
Feelings are a magical realm of existence and are the source of spirituality. Reason and logic are the hope to pin them down scientifically...fat chance.😉
We are all entitled to our own beliefs. To me death is simply part of a cycle meant to allow me to move on to a different body in order to learn more lessons. The Universe is made up of unconditional love. I believe we all carry part of that love inside us. We are all immortal and our lives have purpose.
Hope so because this life is a damn struggle all the way through. Our reality is so evil and depressing and there’s so much beauty. Humans are disgusting with all
The killing and polluting and manipulation. Yuck
Amen
Hope could be a causal force, so remain hopeful for a better afterlife.
Along with making many innocent animals suffer also. We're truly vile
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Absolutely, if you were able to train your mind to a certain sharpness and strong concentration like the mysterious samādhi and dhyāna state like many Indian yogi of the past and present did, you would be able to remember many past lives you have based on your own experience, without a need to resort to speculation and any belief system.
You name two specific belief systems and then claim that learning them would allow you to do something without a belief system. Hmmmm
@@ctrockstar7168 Well if you are able to recall something forgotten memories in the past do you think you need to have a belief system to back up your own experience?
If there is no life after death, then those who believed in it, will never know they were wrong, and those who did not believe in it, will never know they were right. It's the ultimate irony.
the answer to this question is yes, there is life after death, take my word, I had a NDE and I was up there and saw Heaven, that incident increased my faith in the creator.
You dont know if it was heaven! If you had a dream about heaven would you then claim you saw heaven!? I dont think so!!
It was not a dream, it was NDE
@@thearabicfacilitator Evidence suggests NDE are just inside your head! Same as a dream! You have no evidence they are heaven or anything else!
@@twosheds1749 I was not asleep, I was aware of what is going around me, I was aware that I was not on earth, and even I saw my body laying on my bed
@@thearabicfacilitator You cannot prove it was real and not in your head! There have been experiments conducted for example in hospital theatres where secret messages were left out of view above patients. None of the patients were able to state what was on the messages!
I'm very sceptical to some kind of afterlife. But I've had a dream I'll never forget, that seems to indicate consciousness beyond our physical existance! Maybe the dream was just a weird coincidence, but it's too strange
I suggest your read a book called 'The Cosmic Game', by Stanislav Grof.
Consciousness can NEVER die and is a lot more than we are led to believe ... There is no such thing as a coincidence.
@@timjonesvideos Thanks, I'll check it out! :)
@@Trooper101st Hmm, could be correct. If there is no such thing as coincidence free will can't exist neither
@@DaP84 Dont listen to him. consciousness is Satan. Go to allatra.tv and read allatra. books. you wont regret it.
Good video. I would love to see Robert interview people who claim to have experienced NDEs. Also those who have taken psilocybin or DMT.
I am a Muslim but I believe that this is nature. God means highest power of the universe. Angel s also power made with light. Human and animals made with soil. Because we eat potatoes vegetable etc all are from soil when we die return the soil back and soul goes to the sky and wait still my turn to reborn according to my past deeds.
We begin to exist or cease to exist
every time we cross the border
of a deep and dreamless slumber.
I find the subject highly likely, as I do believe in spirits, and the paranormal. I also believe that souls/spirits will come back to live a new life (reincarnation)
Is there life after death in 26:47 min. That’s worth it 🥇
Yes! We all live forever! I saw my partner in the living room a day after passing away!
We do what is life without faith I have two thoughts I've lost my daughter and son I cling on to the hope I see them again I don't live I just exist if I don't see them at least least I will be out of this he'll on earth
@@brendadrumm9451 Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. You will definitely be with your children again I promise you. Jeff Mara NDEs podcasts will help you. Your children see and hear you now. I hope you find comfort in knowing that. Merry Christmas!
We know for sure that there is death after life. So why wouldn't there be life after death? It could be an endless cycle.
Thats probably it.
Like the theory of life and death of the universe.
It's another form of matter. Your soul.
Consciousness is everything. That's obvious. That's beyond the realm of science and religion.
I believe that too
Kidneys filter. Brains think. No "beyond the realm" required.
I’m starting to wonder how it can’t be possible. If there is a certain arrangement of material that can instantiate my consciousness, either producing it through complexity or acting as a “transmitter” of some fundamental force, then if time is eternal and there are many/infinite universes/realms of existence, what are the chances that the same template/arrangement of physical stuff would not once again come together to produce “my” consciousness? Someone talk me out of this cause I feel like no one has this view haha
I've had that same thought and
I can't help imagining that
we are not the only ones who've had it.
After pausing for a moment my unconscious informs me that
I am absolutely certain we are not
the sole thinkers of that thought.
Anyone who's thought deeply about teleportation
will have thought about the consequences arising from
the making of atomically identical copies of a living human body.
(And then fantasized about what power might be had
by a hundred thousand single minded copies).
My mother spoke to me the day after her funeral. Period. It happened.
But why would there have to be a God for you to have an afterlife? What if the universe itself, which has created you, allows you to continue existence in another form? An energy form, rather than physical form?
When we talk of God we talk of the creator. It is white Europeans who impose the idea of God as man , Father etc. The energy form you speak of is essentially God
JP Moreland makes several key points worth remembering on this issue.
Yes, his was the most well reasoned. Interesting that Robert can accept the possibilities of other dimensions of every kind of universe but not the possibility they may also be inhabited by every kind of conscious Beings that our own consciousness might still be a part of while here. There really are some strange experiences documented. One child even found the murderer of his previous incarnation.
@@skybellau Those kinds of data(?) go way beyond my ability to comprehend, mostly because I've not had opportunity to explore them, instead relying on my Christian faith to channel me along the theological/philosophical paths leading to further inquiry. That said, as a career sciientist I nevertheless remain open-minded about the Supernatural world, and as a scientist I do not discount what has not been disproven, scientifically or otherwise. Hence, I remain open minded about most or all possible unseen worlds at this stsge.
No he doesn't. You're experiencing a psychological phenomenon called "confirmation bias".
JP Moreland makes two points: 1) The Resurrection of Jesus provides a singularly noteworthy indication of life after death. Jesus' resurrection is historically-based and extensively-evaluated, so much so it is no longer worth debating the issue- one either believes the evidence or not. This is not confirmation bias, it is evidence-interpretation. 2) Near Death Experiences: these are almost exclusively outside the realm of religious belief. Once again, one either believes the evidence obtained, or not. Some of that was discussed in Dr, Kuhn's first interview, with Stephen Braude. By 2022, a considerable body of evidence on NDEs has been obtained that has been broadly reported by a large number of investigators, likely mostly non-theists. Do they have confirmation-bias? ???
With due respect, the only confirmation bias I see is that which you yourself are projecting.
16:50 - Mr. Kuhn has a crush.
For those committed to an afterlife based on a religious explanation, you need to tackle the problem of positing God as an indisputable, propositional given. Until you can demonstrate and prove the existence of that entity, your arguments are baseless.
This is the great mystery that will never be solved. All I can say is we are here now, maybe we were here before, and maybe we will be born again. I remember speaking a foreign language once in a dream although when I woke up I had no clue what I was saying.
I don't think he spent enough time with reincarnation. There's a lot of pretty convincing evidence for it, I recommend finding a documentary BBC made of it.
I also don't think reincarnation necessarily needs god. If it was possible, it would be evolutionarily beneficial because in some sense we might have learned from our previous lives. There might be a completely non spiritual explanation for reincarnation and we just don't know it yet.
This channel had an episode on time travel and how it's very possible from a scientific view to be transported into the future. What if God did that when we died and just gave us a new body and placed us on this very earth but way ahead in the future where we would never grow old and die and live our lives out perfectly forever. This explanation is both scientific and fits the Bible account of a resurrection hope.
I would not call this explanation ' scientific'. The scientific point of view about the future of our planet is that it will be swallowed up by the sun once it starts to run out of fuel. But humanity and most life is long wiped out by a massive asteroid strike that happen every 10-100 million years. Just the idea that the human species is in some way 'special' and even though it hasn't been around for a long time will somehow remain here much longer than any of the other species observed is not very scientific already. So is it physically impossible, no. Does that make it scientific, no.
The answer to this question will only be definitively given at the time of our death. If we do continue then our awareness will tell us so. If we don’t then there is nothing not even awareness to confirm our doubt which is an interesting dilemma! We can only know if life/consciousness continues if we continue but we can never know if it doesn’t! So if there is life after death the believer is rewarded with being right whereas the disbeliever can only be rewarded with being wrong. I therefore will side with the believers for I have nothing to lose right or wrong.
The Truth is that nobody really knows. To say that there is an afterlife is a useful speculation. To say that there is definitely no afterlife is an unfounded, premature conclusion.
"We cannot die because we were never really alive" is a common Buddhist understanding :-)
Check out the youtube channel "Chiron Last".
it was the late writer Colin Wilson in I believe his book Poltergeist that concluded that the simplest explanation for spirit contact was it's actually spirits.having had two experiences myself I think that he's probably right.i'd say that the tale of the 7 year old boy and the tricycle is pretty convincing but obviously the question I would have is;was he brought up in a household where such things where routinely discussed?
Yes, which was incredibly magnanimous of him. After all, if I wrote a book about spirits and wanted it to sell, of course I would deny their existence. Obviously... not!
I agreed with MS Nancy 100%!
You didn't even interview physicians or real scientists with knowledge and tons of evidence about near death experiences where consciousness behaves as if didn't depend on the brain. There's solid evidence if that's what you seek.
When I was in my 20's to 30'S I read several books pertaining to reincarnation, so it made sense to me that it was possible. My Dad passed away in 1957 due to injuries from a car accident. His kidneys dried up due to the Doctors giving him the wrong medication. He died at the young age of 56. Before he died his kidneys were removed to get ready for a transplant. Other complications set in, & the transplant never took place, but I saw the scars on his stomach & sides from the removal of the kidneys. In 1970, my son was born, & he had scars exactly like my dad had from the removal. The scars stayed with him, but slowly faded as he got older. Anyway, I am convinced my son is my dad, reincarnated !
The heart has memory too.
As well your whole body has memory.
The heart is a systematic muscle. Everything resides in the brain including feelings.
@@abdeljalilmelouani2772 the heart transplant recipients report having the donors memories...
I believe in muscle memory.
@@derekallen4568 it's a down load.
NDE in 2018 left me with a lot of answers, and yet I'm convinced, that it's best to live the life normally and pretend not knowing. Not to rock the boat. Not to freak others out with strange conversations, or having to be expected to provide evidence. I always joke, that when I came back, I didn't bring souvenirs. The truth is that we're all instances of the architect with amnesia. When we die, we recall temporarily, what the game is about, and that immediately makes us want to go back in. To keep coming back. That's why there are so many people. No matter how miserable this place - living is addictive. It's interactive. It's a state that's only possible here. You have to remember what it's like to be god, to appreciate fully, what it's like to not be one.
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Everything decays. Be responsible for your own salvation. - Buddha
How come Rabbis seem to have a relaxed, jovial presentation when asked profound questions? Anyway, I'm also on this journey to understand after death stuff.
Because they don't take their ability to find answers to them entirely seriously. There is no theology in Judaism, strictly speaking. It's mostly considered beyond us. So, we might as well laugh about it as do anything else!😄
"...it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment." - Hebrews 9: 27
Exactly. Among other things, there is no reincarnation.
No one will never ever know what happened after we die
Except Jesus Christ, who raised from the dead , period.
Was that before or after the talking snake!
Louis Black once said, "yes, I'd like to live after I die, but... I think!" No actual evidence or proof was offered here. In the end, Lawrence went with what he wanted to be true. That's fine, but for me, I'm making the best of my life. It's the only one I'm sure I will get.
Life has only one purpose: to survive. We don't know anything before or anything after - who would want to stay on this god forsaken nightmare of a planet anyway.
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Despite the wide anecdotal stories of NDE's, I have a brother and 3 close friends who were 'dead' (one was actually pronounced) before being revived. All of them told me they remember nothing. They equate it with going under anesthesia prior to surgery then waking up 3 or 4 hours later feeling that only minutes have gone by. In my brothers case it was 5 weeks. I know many have a hard time with this concept, but before we were conceived/born, we experienced nothing. And that is what it is like when we die.
You are wrong. I have been to heaven and talked to my wife that passed 15 years before. And it was very real.
@@jerryrogers4825 Nothing would give me greater joy than to be with my daughter who succumbed to cancer at age 25 with so much to live for. I see and interact with her in my dreams. I 'talk' to her during my day. But unfortunately think this is all in my mind. Just like it is in yours. All of us alive "know" deep down in our hearts what death is. Because we have been there, before we were born.
@Qigong Master Not proven. Not believed. Experienced. Where and what were you before being conceived in your mother's womb? Why would a brief existence open the door for something different? The most minute forms of life have a beginning and an end. I think we are no different. Saying we as humans are because we have such a highly developed brain that can grapple with abstract concepts does not prove otherwise.
@Qigong Master Fine with me, but your positions are beliefs, feelings, and preferences. Mine are on lack of beliefs, based on experiences alone.
@Qigong Master How can you say there is "definitely something" after we die? What? You have realistically the same experiences I have. You didnt exist, now you do, and then??? What makes you continue existing after your brain is destroyed by death?
Just a little reminder, no matter where you live on earth, what color your skin is or religious beliefs, we are all immortal, spiritual beings of light, who love and cherish each other. You have just forgotten who you are and where you’re from and that we are one collective source of energy from a different realm and dimension. Your consciousnesses and your soul are one in the same.
Earth is not your true home and the ‘real you’ wasn’t born here. The place your consciousnesses goes when you die or cross over, as some like to say, is going back to your ‘real home’. It’s simply a matter of closing your eyes here and reopening your eyes there, It is instantaneous to us.
Every human on the planet will all eventually see what I’m saying is absolutely and undeniably, 100% correct and true. Again, one day you will all see that every person on this planet comes from the same realm of existence and have been around since time immemorial. All of us are one collective source. Think of yourself as a raindrop and everyone else as the ocean. Again, we are all one.
You have lived many, many lifetimes through reincarnation, hundreds or possibly thousands of times. More than likely, you have been every race, gender and lived from every time period. Again, you are immortal and have died many times throughout history.
When it’s time for your soul to return to earth, you and your soul guardian (Spiritual Guide) will pick your life’s blueprint of what you’re going to do and accomplish, including who your parents are going to be. Your aren’t meant to remember this in your human life, but discover these lessons throughout life. God will put people in your path to help you along your way. The journey to achieving success and fulfilling your goal’s will help grow your soul immensely.
If everyone was just told what they had to do, or easily remembered, they would just rush to get through it and go back home. They wouldn’t be able to properly get what was needed out of life. The one thing I do know for absolute certainty, is that the core learning for each soul, is the ability to love one another and show compassion for each other, no matter who they are, or where they’re from.
For each of us, once you have accomplished these goals set by God, your Spiritual Advisor and you, you will only come back if you want to, and if you feel like you lack in some other area of your life.
Please stop the wars and fighting amongst each other and start to love and cherish one another. Pray to the Heavenly Father daily and read his book and his message daily. Spread his word of love and repent any sins. Ask him to come into your life and guide you on the path of salvation and healing.
We are spiritual beings having a physical experience, not physical beings having a spiritual experience. The last words Jesus spoke on the cross: ‘Father, forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing’.
If you need any other perspective or guidance, watch the episodes called: (The Ghost inside my Child), and NDE’s, (Near Death Experience) testimonials. A lot of these are on RUclips, but you can also find some on the premium’s as well. I watched complete episodes of ‘Ghost’, on Prime. All the NDE episodes, I watched on RUclips.
My first testimonial I watched about a year ago, was of a Neurosurgeon named, Eben Alexander. He was in a coma for 2 weeks and died several times from meningitis. After listening to his hour long testimony, I just started watching everything I could find on the topic, before long, I was a changed person.
People that were born blind or deaf, could see and hear perfectly during their NDE. This one woman I saw had died on the operating table for about 5 minutes and had been born deaf, when she was brought back, she was able to tell all her family and doctors, exactly what they were talking about in the operating room, the whole time she was clinically dead. She wrote down word for word what each of them had said and done for 5 minutes.
They were all in shock, how could she know what they said if she was dead and deaf since birth? These testimonies are simply amazing.
If you’ve ever had a family member or close friend die accidentally, perhaps from drowning or on the operating table, for example, ask them if they had an experience on the other side. Most have, they just don’t like talking about it because of the ridicule. Even doctors don’t want to hear about it, cause it goes against everything they were taught in school.
For most people, it’s the same as believing or talking about aliens. They just can’t except something that goes beyond what their mind can comprehend. I can totally understand that to, cause I use to be the same as them.
Watch as many of the episodes as you can, because you will get a broader, more detailed understanding of what it’s all about and what’s to come. Everyone has a different experience and will witness and see a vast range of environments, it’s all determined by what god feels you need at the time of your NDE. This will completely change your life for the better and you will never fear life or death again. It will give you a complete sense of peace and perspective, that you have never felt before. I use to believe that when you died, it was just lights out and that’s it, nothing more. Good grief, was I wrong!
You will become exponentially more compassionate towards people and animals. You will learn to love yourself first and foremost. I completely understand if you can’t and/or won’t initially except some of what I’m telling you at first. But I do hope and pray that you will try to expand your mind from what you’ve been taught.
I’ve had some ask me about the situation with babies or young children and cancer or illness, disease and ‘why god takes them at such a young age’. Saying, ‘how’s that fair, they didn’t do anything to deserve that’ or ‘why would they pick a life just to turn around and die’.
I initially had issues with all that as well, but over time and learning, it became clear that sometimes the life blueprint that’s picked, is not always about you, but those you choose to be born unto. A mother or father may need to experience/learn humility or sacrifice and yes, sadly the suffering for the loss of a child, just to name a few.
I know it sounds cruel but for whatever reason, it was ultimately necessary and Gods plan. We’re not meant to know or understand everything, that’s essentially in Gods hands. I was a devout nonbeliever and hardcore sceptic, (as most people are these days) when I first heard about this, but the more knowledge you learn and acquire, the more you will realize it all to be true and not just a ‘nice story’, as one guy responded back to me recently. Please don’t ignore this, it has everything to do with why you’re here.
Some things are true whether you believe them or not. I would like to say though, that I’m not in any way an expert on the subject or claim to know everything, not even close. I encourage you to do your own research and come to your own conclusions. Sorry this was so long, I’m just really passionate about this topic now. God Bless You!
It does not MATTER that is LIFE after death. It is not a matter of LIF as in BIOLOGICAL LIFE.
It will not matter in the next LIFE if you do not REMEMBER this life.
I would like a long healthy life but really, I do not want to live to be 120, let alone FOREVER.
that's not what people say whom have crossed over..they describe it as the most beautiful experience ever! even more beautiful than earth existence. so i wouldn't make such a dumb comment.
and you are comparing this life to the next..they wouldn't be similar at all.
You know, before I saw all those fools hoarding toilet paper last year I used to entertain the idea of immortality. Now? Forget it. One time around is bad enough
I relate to what you say. Welcome to the club ! I don't know If I lived many lives before but this one will be the last. I knew that what we call humanity was petty in nature but this episode of toilet paper gave me the evidence that I thought right
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I am informed by the poet, Robert Frost, who wrote, "Heaven gives its glimpses to those not in position to look too closely." How like observer entanglement this statement reflects. In a universe so large, here lies the indications that being human is significant. Life and consciousness are deep mysteries of which we are a part. By day we seek solid proofs, by night we dream. We know not from where we came, we know not where we are going.
Thank you for sharing this quotation.
If we accept the multiverse hypothesis then, all four options might be viable in different verses, perhaps or even infinite other options. More to the point, though, isn't it, not so much for the departed to know/believe than to the society to have such options to accommodate various degrees of skepticisms and manage the topology of cultures, languages and various other societal quasicrystals?
Yes there is life after death but only for those born again by the Fathers spirit.
If you do believe in an afterlife: What if you are currently living in your afterlife? Couldn't this current state be an afterlife from previous lives? What makes anyone think or believe this state of being is the start of it all? I'm just curious because I don't believe in an afterlife and I'm just trying to learn what others think about. Thank you for this episode. I love how you get soooo many view points and help us through learning and expanding our thought process. Great job.
We don't believe this is an afterlife because everything and everyone decays and dies here. In an afterlife, we would expect to be immortal. Also, this world has many faults, it's not much of a good afterlife in my opinion.
Eben Alexander, MD survived an attack by bacteria on his brain, putting him in a coma for a week, providing this trained scientist with his own experience of life after death. On recovery he sat in on the medical discussion about what had happened to him in which he could analyze the consciousness he had experienced in view of what medical science understands. All explanations required a functioning brain, especially a neocortex, which, in his case was being eaten by microbes. He wrote "Proof of Heaven" to share what he had learned from his Near-Death Experience. "I understood how blind to the full nature of the spiritual universe...I had been, who had believed that matter was the core reality. I explored this revelation in my 2nd book, "Surviving the Micronova: This Train is on the Track." Millions of people have had Near Death Experiences because advances in medical technology and its accessibility to many more people, yet ignored by most research.
@@allenheart582 near death experience is not fully dieing. Hence NEAR death. Or else doctors would call them resurrections or coming back to life without a doctor's help. I'm not taking away his personal experience, but it's just his view and opinion on his own experience. Also, brain damage sometimes causes hallucinations and alters focus. The afterlife sounds great, but if you can't report from the afterlife to reality & visa versa in a consistent undoubtedly way that would make scientist stop their studies to focus on the afterlife to show all humanity that it really exists, then how can we believe it's true? Through stories? Should we buy their books and believe in them as evidence of afterlife or evidence that they had an experience?
@@WE_R_DNA Reporting on people's experiences is no less research than reporting on what can be observed through a microscope, telescope, or from exploring the lunar surface. In fact, since over a million people have reported their NDE, there are many more observers of the same experience so there is much more opportunity to cross-reference, compare and contrast those reports. For example, the significance of what the lunar explorers observed was very under-reported and hidden by classification. Few know about the glassy shrapnel containing nucleotides only produced in solar interiors. The whole Apollo program was launched to confirm classified information that our sun does nova on a cycle of 12,000 years and that is beginning its repeat NOW. More detail in my 2nd book, Surviving the Micronova.
@@lesmorley9628 I hope you gave them time off to vote in the midterms.
Be patient, we'll all find out someday.
We won't, and that's the point.
The bottom line is that Nobody knows. If you believe in God, there is life after death. If you are atheist, the life journey finishes at death and if you are Buddhist you reincarnate in the body of someone else in the future until you reach Nirvana. Basically you have 3 choices.
As I consider it, the transition between Life and Death (not that any of us are ever born; neither do any of us ever die) is happening all the time, over and over again and again, until such time the indefinite continuing process of existence as we understand it, and have measured it in hours and minutes either past midnight or noon, day after day after night after day, appears a thing no more.
Yet, come the hour of changeover nothing should feel so real as non-reality, does it remain a point of perception; of our ability to distinguish it at times all but too fleetingly the form once fixed now formless.
Although the sense of everything within Life as we live and know it varies, the essence of without does not, Love's lot the gift given whole, the holiest gift of all and Death no departure from it.
And this duality we are all experiencing within our existence and at the exact same time, is something of a parallel. It is all part of the one never-ending vibration which beyond our localised awareness is referred to as universal consciousness.Thus, neither does consciousness have a beginning nor an end, it merely assumes the activities of either a finite mechanism for thinking or it simply does not think at all, because it does not need to submit to the authority of knowing itself as we are wont to do, an ever- evolving concept within it.
That nothing in Life matters so much as Love, and that Love is in form of no material thing we can physically touch and yet, we feel it more profoundly than any other state to be so completely informed by it, neither does the stuff of dreams nor dream-makers die that the dreamer is no more, they have simply relocated.
I PRAY there is NOTHING after this.
My life has been a lesson in pain, misery and hate. I do my best to prevent these thing in the lives of other because I have empathy, and it hurts ME to see others in pain. I don't pretend my altruism is anything but self service. I also don't pretend I have done NO good. If there is Karma, I should have a life at least free from daily suffering. But physics does not apply when I try to do anything simple. There seems to be a pain in every movement. If you were to film my day, and catch the universe, it would be a comedy because no one would believe the daily misfortune I face when I have no other observer. But it doesn't happen when another is paying attention to me. Let their attention drift, or let me be out of their field of vision, and the predator of misfortune returns to gain the joy of filling me with hate for attempting anything.
If I meet a "god" when I die, I will scream with ALL the Hate and rage it put into me that "The light was NO good!!!". I will tell it that it truly "loves" me is will remove from existence. Do it's "plan" without me.
There is NO afterlife worth the evil of this existence.
I would gladly kill my father before I was born if it meant I did not have to "be".
I don't care about YOUR tales of sorrow. I will never meet you. /If I did, I would everything in my power to stop your suffering, so I didn't have to witness it. Make of that what your.
god, refuses to do that for me.
He better PRAY he doesn't exist.
@Dharma Defender That's not true. You don't know what people go thru in their life. Karma is BS!!
@Dharma Defender I believe God but not Karma. I'm not perfect but I'm polite, generous, grateful and yet bad things happen to me. The more positive I am the worse it gets. But yet, I watch complete jerks get good things happening to them. What do you think that is?
Those born of the spirit live forever.
Maybe we are living in hell right now. So much suffering 😢 and for what? I hope all can be well and at peace in some way 🕊
I tend to agree with you. This world is starting to look more and more like hell for everyone. Perhaps we've committed some crime we don't remember and that's why we're here. I don't know
Some of us hope for something beyond death. We don't know the answers but we want to believe. We'll not know until the moment of our death,where we will be going or if that is the end of our existence. Another probable phenomenon, is "Spirits" who sometimes encounter the living. Some may call it a haunting,as they have not left their space and "live" on.
With regard to messages being transmitted and stored within the brain… I’d like to point out that electrical energy is NOT transmitted IN wires but actually in the electrical and magnetic fields AROUND the wires. I’m not certain how this ties into your investigations but it seems relevant.
I'm looking for the same meaning of life
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42 is the number of the antichrist
They use it constantly to mock you.
You are EXILES.
The human race is a hybridization of two opposed races.
The dead reptilian race blue blood race and the light beings representing the red blood.
Homosapien human being. Sapien means to be wise and with poisonous juices. Etymology of Sapien back to sanskrit(saep) means snake.
And the Lord God made to Adam and to his wife vestures of honour from the skin of the serpent, which he had cast from him, upon the skin of their flesh, instead of that adornment which had been cast away; and He clothed them.
You are eloheem (a god) you are a child of the most High.
The earth is death
Death is a lie
You are born into death. You will become alive when you are converted (rectified reconciled reborn)
Matrix means womb from the word mater which means mother.
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