Do Angels and Demons Exist? | Episode 410 | Closer To Truth
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- Many theologians take angels and demons seriously. Why? Certainly, most human beings believe in angels and demons. Certainly, such nonphysical beings, in one form or another, populate most of the world's religions. Featuring interviews with J.P. Moreland, Thomas Flint, Dean Radin, Walter Sinnott-Armstrong, and James Tabor.
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In my mind the more potent question is: do non-physical beings exist. Asking outside religious dogma would bring a more interesting conversation imo.
Ha... And then you went there. Well done.
well there might be some aliens that exist non physically it's very possible
I believe it’s kinda like supernatural on Netflix
Can’t they be the same thing
Truth can be found in multiple books. God Wrote multiple Books. Seek the answer and you will find it. God explained to me many things in a PBE. God can make something out of nothing. Angels, I met Angels before coming here and also while here. Angels can be directed to pluck people from Hell and send them to a new life with much of their memory removed.
As for reincarnation, God sees this very much very similar or same as death. I did not understand death entirely before I came to this world, Then God made it clear to me that our goal is not death, it is not reincarnation, it is not going to hell or somewhere with much of our memory removed.
We are supposed to keep our memory from this point forward. We are supposed to heal, forgive, ask for forgiveness and learn how to Love God and others.
We are supposed to establish a Relationship with our Creator, The Creator. This is the assurance that sin, death and reincarnation will be avoided. Seek The Creator from your heart and your soul. God bless you!
I come from a scientific sceptical background but I'm starting to accept that there is so much we don't know that it's arrogant to dismiss the honest rational testimony of people we otherwise respect who say they have seen angels.
Well said.
@Jan Koszuta I admire the sentiment, and kind of agree with you, up to a point.
The issue I have, is that the testimony seems far from rational. He said himself that, it was a time in his life when he was going through a great amount of personal difficulty, and so was primed to make assumptions that he would never have done, before.
I think this weakens his credibility, if anything. And one could argue that, the arrogance is on the side of the people, who assume that they are celestial beings, rather than any other rational explanations, and that these beings choose to comfort *them* rather than alleviate the suffering of others in this world, who are having a much tougher time of it than anyone presented here.
Nothing more arrogant than pretending to know things you do not know. Dismissing delusional people is not arrogance, it is called critical thinking. Changing our minds and beliefs according to new evidence is not weakness, but the strength of critical thinking.
It is indeed colossally arrogant to believe that we are anywhere near the end of the road of knowledge. We have easily much further to wander down it’s route than we have traveled already. The mysteries that are yet to be answered are beyond our imagination & I’m genuinely positive about the near future.
@Na | Ta | Li You are deluded.
When my husband died. I was so consumed with grief. I woke up early in the morning it was still dark. I looked up to the ceiling and seen an angel. I looked at it for awhile until he disappeared slowly. I felt so much peace and joy while he was there
We are almost blind, deaf, incapable to feel and we pretend to know it all, come on! We need more humility....
One skeptic guy was taken into a room once and there he was asked if there was a bloodstain on the wall, he turn around and laughed because he could see nothing resembling any kind of corporal fluid on the wall. Then the UV light was turned on and he was able to see beyond his very limited spectrum of visible light and the blood, urine, saliva and sweat remains suddenly appeared before his very eyes. After that he was asked another question "can you imagine your life can be in danger in this 'empty' room? And he said that there was nothing in the room that could harm him. Obviously he had no idea that the room was receiving ionizong radiation from an ambulatory X ray machine that could cause cancer and DNA mutation leading to death even in the next months. Then he was shown the radiation meter and was aware of his own exposure to harmful electromagnetic radiation.
Later on he was asked to describe the sounds he could hear in the room and he replied that there were none. To prove him that there were imperceptible infrasound noises below 20 Hz in the room he had to see a sound level meter to be conscious that in fact he was unable to hear the existing noises in the house. Finally he was asked to turn the radio on and to touch, see, smell, feel if possible the FM radio waves and he was proved once that his perception was so limited as to conclude that only palpable, visible, audible things exist.
So it might be correct for any skeptic to say that angels, demons and God don't exist in their visible light espectrum (380-700 nm), and they don't speak to them either (in 20-20,000 Hz) and cannot cause any damage (at least in the known or perceived forms of harmful electromagnetic radiation). Whatever knowledge that is claimed beyond our perception is mere bragging. We should just remain silent about the things we cannnot even perceive.
This whole post is wild and extremely speculative, but a fun read.
I can't perceive my dead grandma and uncle.....does that mean they are still here .....😐.....common now
@@dankachilles9356 good question.
Schrödinger says that by not observing the object/animal/person you cannot conclude whether it is dead or alive. So it can be both at the same time.
OMFG
Which light do you turn on so you can angels?
The problem with skeptics is they don't seem to realize true skepticism involves being skeptical of one's own position too. If the skepticism is only applied to what one doesn't already believe in, then the skeptic nature loses any actual meaning and is transformed into a bias favoring what one already believes to be true. This makes it difficult, if not impossible, to learn or discover anything new.
Remove the "three" and then I'll believe.
David Hume would have loved you!
I love it when the sceptic's "rational" explanation is more far-fetched than the thing it is attempting to explain away.
Truth can be found in multiple books. God Wrote multiple Books. God is operating on a global scale. God explained to me many things in a PBE and NDE. God can make something out of nothing. Angels can be directed to pluck people from Hell and send them to a new life with much of their memory removed. I was given instructions by Angels before I came here and have seen the operate in this world.
As for reincarnation, because the most of the world currently gets it wrong..... God sees this very much very similar or same as death. I did not understand death entirely before I came to this world, Then God made it crystal clear to me that our goal is not death, it is not reincarnation, it is not going to hell or somewhere with much of our memory removed. 99% of your memory removed is death.
We are supposed to keep our memory from this point forward. We are supposed to do these things: heal, forgive, ask for forgiveness and learn how to Love God and others.
We are especially supposed to establish a Relationship with our Creator, The Creator. This is the assurance that death and reincarnation will be avoided. Seek The Creator from your heart and your soul. God bless you!
@@MikeSmith-tm3zq God doesn't write books. ruclips.net/video/KerzNlq8pks/видео.html
This channel is absolutely one of the best ive ever experienced. Open minded, but properly dealing with the subject matter at hand with critical thinking. This channel should be much much bigger than what it is. Production value and guest quality is also 10/10
China shill.
Because it is. PBS production. Here in DFW, Tx it's KERA. Both tv and AM radio have KERA channels. Charles Moyer is one of my favorite PBS commentators and I used to see this guy's show on every week.
Open minded? It’s entirely religiously biased
I agree!
What channel is not open minded it’s very right wing very Christian
I seriously wanted to pull out the popcorn on the first scene... "more than a hundred, but less than a trillion? Okay..."
Love it.
Beware the man who claims to know the unknowable, especially when it is his job to make such claims.
I know what you mean.
How do you know?
It's his job to keep the superstitions going.It pays the bills, it keeps him busy ,he goes on tv.and ......believers will lie to themselves to keep the belief real and to keep their religious community strong .
We're just supposed to except his personal experience story
As factual.
Like who the T.F does that and take themselves serious?
His story is unverifiable & unfalsifiable,
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He didn't use a Jesus Story or a Bible story he used his own
Like come on dude at least Jesus Stories been around for two years and has some credibility even among non believers
His story took place with a college kid who could have been high on all kids of ish.
This is undoubtedly the most underrated RUclips channel.
Definitely is!
Agreed
If that isn’t closer to truth, i don’t know what is 😂
CTT was on TV for years PBS
This is undoubtedly the most full of horseshit youtube channel. Ancient Alien Experts Say YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
I met a bunch of Angels while out riding in SoCal one time. Real cool dudes. We talked about our bikes, the engines, displacement, accessories etc. Just remember to NEVER bring up club business if you are not an Angel yourself and you will be good. Oh wait, wrong topic...
Lol
Cheers
Christi
I so greatly appreciate the effort to share all different perspectives openly and honestly, so people can decide for themselves. This is how truth seeking should really work!
If determine truth is measuring reality, it seems this can’t be done reliably in the isolation of one’s own mind.
Wrong
Science decides, not you.
Oh dear- the number of times I found myself saying “oh ffs” during this was staggering
Do Angels and Demons Exist? YES, they're referred to as "Humans".
pretty cool
I agree it is also within us.
@J w I'm from Missouri. Show me a real angel.
@J w It is just amazing people still believe in such stories. This may show what neuroscientists say about the plasticity of the brain: we can believe in just about anything if endoctrinated young enough to internalice other's beliefs. Nevertheless, one doesn't know the authenticity of the "believer". Sociologists talk about the "belief of beliefs"; the person thinks that he/she believes, but deep in their consciousness actually they don't. Another possibility is that the " believer" is actually pranking. And I still wonder how come believers of "demons" do not care if such stories scares children. Does this shows a lack of empathy of the believer?
@J w If you actually did legitimate research... Meaning, you come with an open mind and research what BOTH sides have to say.... You would realize that NDE's are not legitimate, and ALL supernatural claims are false (not backed by SCIENTIFIC evidence)
Awesome channel so thankful for the host and all the guests sharing their wisdom.
I generally avoid discussions of this type. On the one hand, after decades studying physics, a quest I set out on out of a desire to learn how mind/consciousness works, I am fairly convinced that mere physical phenomena cannot produce the self-awareness that we all feel. People say, oh, it's emergent, but that's really just hand-waving. No one has ever given a plausible physical explanation for mind, and I'm of the opinion that no one ever will.
That means I'm quite open to the idea that a physical body isn't necessarily *required* in order for a mind to exist. You could use the word "spiritual" to describe that point of view. However, I am highly, HIGHLY doubtful that any of Earth's large organized religions "have the right story." There are just too many "attitudes" attributed to God that I just can't believe a legitimate all knowing all loving God would have. I think all of the "big religions" are primarily institutions created as systems of control.
Anyway, these anecdotal stories don't move my belief a bit either - I'm with Dr. Kuhn in that sense. I'm not closed minded about a lot of these things, but I'm also not out eagerly seeking confirmation bias.
Time is relative. Acceleration is relative. Perception is relative. Take a video game. Increase or slow down the frame rate of the game and observe how the characters operate. Increase the pixels etc. Psychodelics, anesthesia, meditation are altered concious states. If you increase the neural connections through the synaptic gaps or folds of your brain you can asymptotically increase the transfer of information. Personally I think conciousness may be both subjective and collective but there is an awful lot of decoherence.
I think you'd find Chris Langan's Cognitive-Theoretic Model Universe (CTMU) to be very interesting, if you haven't already heard of it. He has a great four hour plus interview on a podcast called, Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal -- which is a truly fantastic podcast -- where they get fairly into the weeds for an introductory discussion.
So, you’ve given up trying? Some “scientist” you are (not).
Seek and be rewarded. You may be the best thing on earth. You can change the planet. It is actually pretty simple. Truth can be found in multiple books. God Wrote multiple Books. God is operating on a global scale.
God explained to me many things in a PBE and NDE. God can make something out of nothing. Angels can be directed to pluck people from Hell and send them to a new life with much of their memory removed. I was given instructions by Angels before I came here and have experienced them operate in this world. I was not from reincarnation but a new soul in God's Creation. I remember my Creation. The created instantly and absolutely knows their Creator, which is The Creator.
As for reincarnation, because the most of the world currently gets it wrong..... God sees this very much very similar or same as death. I did not understand death entirely before I came to this world, Then God made it crystal clear to me that our goal is not death, it is not reincarnation, it is not going to hell or somewhere with much of our memory removed. 99% of your memory removed is death.
We are supposed to keep our memory from this point forward. We are supposed to do these things: heal, forgive, ask for forgiveness and learn how to Love God and others.
We are especially supposed to establish a Relationship with our Creator, The Creator. This is the assurance that death and reincarnation will be avoided. Seek The Creator from your heart and your soul. God bless you!
That old Platonic/Cartesian ‘dualism’ trip will just never die, will it. The Buddha had it right-the ‘mind’ and the ‘body’ is all ONE thing, not two separate and distinct things. Descartes’ utterly shallow, childish ‘Dualism’ has been the bane of human existence since *religion* first minted those horrific, inhuman words, whereas I think Plato was just joking around about it. Some goonball is always out there ready to take that kind of senseless crap far too seriously.
So tough to take someone seriously when they say they "know" something exists because two people said they saw something.
Just because The Great Pumpkin hasn't shown up YET doesn't mean he won't show up this Halloween.
I know that the Pumpkin exists, but he might just be Mediocre.
So Africa has no food ? This is the most ignorant episode ever with a PhD you would think he would have more brains white men created colonialism not Angels
Pumpkins and Snarks
I am quite bright and I have a real issue with Sock Goblins. I guess they are real too.
@@rudymattox9865 pmsl
Got to love how the few super intelligent keepers have to talk down to us uneducated,superstitious many.the author has no intention of taking this subject serious,obviously he knows much more than we ever will!
I used to believe in angels and demons until 9/11 and seeing all those people jumping from those buildings and not one survive -and supposedly there’s millions of angels watching over us??? But not one ☝️ did anything??? I found it hard to believe that beings so powerful and full of love were just watching all those people horrifying just jumping from those towers. I came to a conclusion to common sense that angels and demons are just a fabrication of humanity and religion.
Fool !! Don’t be so weak minded
New subscriber. Love the debate context. Always left somewhere in the middle. Great channel. Thank You. 🇦🇺
The interview with James Tabor was incredible! I'm going to look into his work. Robert, killing it as usual. I never expect anything less from him. We're all so fortunate that he's the one asking the questions.
Killing the truth, sure.
He didn’t convince me not a bit and the funny thing is that he is working on translating the Bible.
Tabor is one of the hardest working archeologists alive. I can't wait to see what his translations reveal
Interesting
At 6:05 when he tells Robert, that "thats his assumption", hes forgetting that EVERYTHING he said prior about angels and evil IS his assumptions. He assumes that these people saw angels. He can't prove it, and neither can those other people prove it. Other then just assume what they saw. And when asked about, why aren't "garden angels" doing better to protect kids, that they are not because of so much evil, he's ASSUMING an answer, and can't prove that either.
Do you really think kids in africa don't have food? You kidding me or something?
That statement is made because out of stupidity and trying to validate himself. He doesn't have a growth mindset, doesn't want to learn anything, just to go about people of reputation and make them feel less of themselves, while he makes it seem like he's the boss.
Garden angels??
I have an experience from some 40 years ago.
I was sitting at a table with a cup of coffe in the cantina of one of our universities one day, when a young girl stopped at my table.
I had seen her before.
She belonged to a small group of "slighly reduced" people doing simpler work for the university down in the basement.
Book and document handling kind of work.
I lifted my head slightly from the book I was reading, and looked at her to see if she wanted to ask me something and then she spoke with a male voice shouting at me " I know who you are! You don't fool me!"
I became quite perplexed, that you g girl could never have produced that kind of voice, and she did not even move her lips.
She looked like she had a kind of attack of something her head vaving from side to side, then she regained her kind of control, smiled shyly and went away.
I am to this day convinced she was possesed with a bad or evil spirit.
I find no other explanation.
Of course I see the possibility of someone trying to pull a fast one on me, but no way.
The girl was a variation of "Downs case", and such a planned trick is quite unthinkable.
We know of kind and good unselfish actions done by people, and we know the opposie.
The exsistence of good and evil is without question in this world.
Is there any good reason we should doubt this...?
I cannot say that I am able to prove anything, but I don't find any reason to refuse my own observations, and my own opservations makes me conclude that we have good and evil spirits in this world.
Yes, you are correct. There are those spirits. Still, God Creates. We are the created, we have Free Will. We are made in the image of God. The Savior is Real. You can avoid death.
But first,, since it seemed everyone was talking about Angels. I will tell you now with 100% assurance: Angels are great beings, they have Free Will and many beautiful characteristics, However , they are not to be thought of as to their powers over humans - this is not the case. They are 1 Creation within, of God's Infinite Ability. I've noticed, for the very few I remember interacting with, is they do a job given to them but make a wise choice to give all credit and important decision unto God.
If you seek you will find. Seek and be rewarded. All credit goes to ONE GOD. You may be the best thing on earth right now. Better than even the Angels if you try. You can change the planet. It is actually pretty simple. Truth can be found in multiple books. God Wrote multiple Books. God is operating on a global scale.
God explained to me many things in a PBE and NDE. God can make something out of nothing. Angels can be directed to pluck people from Hell and send them to a new life with much of their memory removed. I was given instructions by Angels before I came here and have experienced them operate in this world. I was not from reincarnation but a new soul in God's Creation. I remember my Creation. The created instantly and absolutely knows their Creator, which is The Creator.
As for reincarnation, because so many currently gets it wrong..... God sees this very much, very similar or near same as death. I did not understand death entirely before I came to this world, Then God made it crystal clear to me that our goal is not death, it is not reincarnation, it is not going to hell or somewhere with much of our memory removed. 99% of your memory removed is death.
We are supposed to keep our memory from this point forward. We are supposed to do these things: heal, forgive, ask for forgiveness and learn how to Love God and others.
We are especially supposed to establish a Relationship with our Creator, The Creator. This is the assurance that death and reincarnation will be avoided. Seek The Creator from your heart and your soul. God bless you!
Mike Smith
Thank you and the same to you.
May this Christmas night bring blessings to the world.
And may we let God do his work trough us.
@@MikeSmith-tm3zq : If you are talking about angels from the Christian Bible then you really need to think again because in the Hebrew Bible angels and demons are not even mentioned and the Modern Bible is translated from the Hebrew Bible. Remember the Bible was also translated again via the instructions of King James in the 17th Century for his owns ends. You might as well say that Hobbits, Orcs and Wizards and Sauron exist or existed to believe Angels. We will all get to know the answer when we die but for now it is unknown and unknowable.
@@raistmajere5627 Your just repeating what james tabor said, parrot
You cannot have a rational discussion with someone religious. They will always look for a bogus explanation to fit their believes.
Bruh, Robert's face while he's listening to the second fool had me dying!!!
You name calling speaks volumes on your lack of maturity.
"If they had more food they wouldn't see angels"... LOL
That line was good. haha
🤣🤣🤣
What’s it mean?
@@sleepinglion1192 Hungry people hallucinate more. Hallucinate about angels because angels are not real.
@@ingenuity168 they’re real. When your hungry, you are separating from bodily needs more, so makes sense.
The leap of faith is like jumping from a cliff hoping someone will catch you because they told you that there is whole population of non-material beings living under the cliff
People with NDEs understand this very well. They jumped when they were not ready to and they were still caught.
Just wonderful work!
5:48 I love how it slowly closes in on Roberts face as he listens 🤣
Yeah me too
He has a good listening face
Chakras
The thing is, everyone doesn’t have to believe it or understand it for it to be true.
The thing is, everyone doesn’t have to believe it or understand it for it to be false.
I definitely have someone/thing watching out for me. Many years ago I was alone driving on a long stretch of back wood Maine roads and fell asleep at the wheel. I heard my name shouted at me and was scared to full alertness and swerved back on the road just before going off into a deep chasm at 60 miles an hour. The name shouted was my nick name known only to immediate family and friends. Go figure.
I was driving home through backwoods when I was 14 or 15, and abruptly a thought entered my mind: “It wasn’t my fault, dad, the white truck hit me head-on because they came around the bend in my lane!”
It wasn’t those exact words, it was quicker, and it was more images than words. But it hit me so suddenly, and felt so weird, that I slowed down from 55 to 35.
A white pickup truck raced around the next bend, in my lane, and forced me off the road into a narrow ditch. I watched my rearview mirror pass directly under theirs. They were still in my lane when they went around the bend behind me.
I’d be dead. I was in a tiny blue Chevy hatchback. Thank God for that “premonition.”
"The name shouted was my nick name known only to immediate family and friends. Go figure."
But surely you knew your own nick name? Why don't you consider that your own brain shouted to yourself? We all have an inner dialog.
@@iamapfhb2655 we have guardian angels. If it’s not our time to go, we are still here. And most who have a near death experience and describe their experience should not medically be here.
@@rebeccaringler1265 "we have guardian angels."
We do? Since your making a positive assertion such as that, it stands to reason that you would have demonstrable evidence meet the burden of proof for said assertion. So please, I implore you, demonstrate how exactly you would know that your assertion is possible and that it is accurate.
@@nonprogrediestregredi1711 if you don’t believe it, okay. People have near death experiences and sent back because it’s not their time. But we choose if we believe it when people tell their story.
Amazing video!!!
I asked Santa Claus, and he told me they are figments of human imaginations.
I have reported this video for promoting conspiracy theories. I suggest you do the same
@@DavidSmith-wp2zb I have reported you for being a complete bellend, I strongly suggest handing yourself in to the Bellend police.
@@DavidSmith-wp2zb My man, I suggest you do something with your life? What does the title of the video say? “ Do Angels and Demons exist?” So the person in this video is explaining his opinion about it. Maybe if the title would have said; “Angels and Demons exist for sure, watch this!!!!”. It would have maybe been a different story. Since the person would try to convince you that they exist. In this video its just about this guy explaining his way of thinking about it. It does not promote conspiracy theories. He does not say you have to believe this or that. He does not promote. So before saying something completely stupid like that do your homework. And btw yes, i believe there is more between space and earth if I can say so. If you would have studies the old greek/latin culture and language like I did, seen certain buildings, experienced things like it did. You would get why I think so. Do your homework
@@sjoerdboschman418 very good reply and I appreciate it. Bottom line though human beings have done some unspeakable horrible horrible horrible things and it just seems somewhat unlikely to me the reason why some human beings do these horrible things is because they just decided to do so because we have free will! Nope, I think there must be something else out there that causes such things or at least helps it on its way. what do you think?
@@jasguy2715 Why can't the angels and demons be in our minds? That is a much more parsimonious solution that does not not necessitate inventing entities that have not been been reliably detected (I sure haven't seenany). If you see a crumpled bluebell at the bottom of your garden that doesn't mean that fairies did it.
I need a bumper sticker with Robert's face on it saying " I just want the truth"
Thanks for the time you took to make this video. You gave me an answer you just gave me two point of view.
I by no means consider myself an expert on these things - but while I accept the skepticism that asks 'Why would three angels just be standing around this one man? Why not feed a child? Why not save someone from peril?' as totally legitimate, there's another part of me that thinks: If these beings exist and are operating in tandem with our lives, wouldn't it be MORE likely that their actions would seem nonsensical to us, or like we're missing pieces? With how complex even our observable universe is, it stands to reason that the motivations of higher beings would be somewhat removed from us. What we deem as important might not register to them, similarly to how what an ant colony finds important we're totally removed from. Granted, if you look at it biblically, the angels are certainly closer to us than we are to ants.
I agree. In the interview he makes much of starving children as a failure on the part of angels. Angels on the other hand may view starving children as one step from being souls in heaven and view the people who are well fed physically but spiritually starved as the pathetic sad ones.
I used to live in a small community in a northern state of the USA. I was somewhat religious and I had just moved to the town and thought about having a closer more friendly relationship with the Priest. I lived there about 5 years and just never went through with it. I moved about 100 miles away and it was about 10 years later I was in Barnes and Nobles and I picked out a book on exorcism and started reading it in the store over a cup of java. I just randomly opened it and started reading. Very shortly I was reading about the Priest in that small town and how he had been an exorcist for years and years. I wished right then I had started that relationship with him. H ewas pretty elderly and had long retired by that time. But, according to him he said in the book Satan is very real.
39 “Abraham is our father,” they answered.
“If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would do what Abraham did. 40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. 41 You are doing the works of your own father.”
“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”
42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”
@@empyrean9712 same god to tell Abraham to kill his own son to prove his faith?, and the guy was going to listen; ok, fair enough, not to mention genocides, atrocities, and endless cruelty
@@ignaciobazan4445 Where do you think genocide, atrocities, cruelties come from?
1 Corinthians 15:20-28
Christ has been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.
21 For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ.
24 Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power.
25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.
27 For “God[c] has put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when it says, “all things are put in subjection,” it is plain that he is excepted who put all things in subjection under him.
28 When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.
@IGNACIO BAZAN It’s free-will man nobody’s an automaton. As a result of free-will there are consequences good and bad that at the cosmic level can only be reconciled by a creator.
I live for this channel. ❤
1 of my fav story in the Bible is when an Angel came to Abraham's house. His wife Sara went to prepare food, as the Angel was telling him, his wife would conceive a son, she overheard him, and laughed in her head, thinking "yea right, I'm old, barren", the Angel asked her "Why did you laugh"? She denied it. That is Telepathy. The 1st literary account that I'm aware of. (Isaac means laughter) Those ancient Shepards were way ahead of their time in writing Sci-Fi.
re " Isaac means laughter"
You're quite right about the story of Sara - yet the meaning of the name Issac as "laughter" is now the meaning of " laughter of joy " .....the name is 'joyful laughter' in being blessed ....all of these names have meaning - try to translate the meaning of the names of the ancestry of Jesus given in Luke. -
@@termikesmike I have always found Biblical names, and meanings fascinating. It's never "just a name" in Bible. Emmanuel "God with us", Melchezadek "King of Righteousness" understanding these types of things, only helps you understand better.
They exist and are very common everywhere. These entities are responsible in part for much of the character of a person, a good part of what makes a person who and what person is can be atributed to angels and demons influence. These entities can latch onto a human for good or worse, they avail the human experience of what humanity values as far as experiences go. Any place you travel, walk through, multitudes of influences await, some in eagerness to latch onto you and live with you, such is life. A more correct definition is that angels can be as good as imagined angels or as bad as imagined demons, same with demons, some demons can give you the most humane paths while some angels can push you to horrifying crimes, the idea of good and evil exists only in fairy tales, these entities's nuances are vast affairs and their proclivities are also influenced by the person they latch onto. Great things can happen with an individual of a certain disposition with a certain demon, while the very same demon can make a mass murderer out of another. Many books yet need be written for a more complete understanding of their nature. Cosmological forces is what they are. Oh and demons can be beautiful just as much angels, and angels generally appear wingless and actually more commonly as bright designs, almost like shifting vibrating sigils, if they make visual contact they generally will latch onto the human subject for a long time, whatever they bring will stay with that person for a long time.
re " Many books yet need be written for a more complete understanding of their nature. "
You should write - with the help of both angels and a demon or two for a complete view ....
I have experienced as many Christians the Holy Spirit, I have come to know God is real by experiencing something that should not have been able to be. At the age of 32 I prayerfully asked Christ if he was real then he would have to show me and He did the holy spirit came over me and poured through me from head to toe. It was the most wonderful experience I have ever encountered total elation and bliss and it was by just humbly asking. Before I was a humanist, a realist and I today am 100% for sciences they simply try to explain and unravel what already exists...Science reveals a much greater work that we may never fully understand.
You primed your brain to have this experience. Other people from other religions have had the same experience when asking their gods to show themsslves. People taking DMT see spirits and elves.
In medical settings expeiments have shown that the feeling of a spiritual presence can be invoked by activating certain parts of the brain.
I am sure this experience was very profound to you but it is not proof of any god.
He talks to a lot of the guys I listen to and read. This guys is awesome
The look on Robert's face during these interviews is priceless!
We have human versions of these!
We can say that demons and angels are only symbols for what is ambiguous which is Man .
EXACTLY
Yeah I just found this channel. I can't believe I never heard of it. Great
tell me what you learned in this video? All I can see is a man of pride and not willing to learn anything, but just goes about to make sure people subscribe to his views and opinions.
And you also accepted that africa has no food? You kidding or something...
love ur channel
God never allows evil...
God allows
Freedom of Choice.
Everything has a choice,to do good and evil,we all have the knowledge of Good and evil .
Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny exist , I saw them at the mall ...
I have reported this video for promoting conspiracy theories. I suggest you do the same
@@DavidSmith-wp2zb Falls under " freedom of speech " ...
Off topic
@Jim Jones he's being facetious I guess you missed his point.
@@withgoddess1119 Wrong ...a valid comment .
The question they should have asked Robert is, if he saw an angel or demon would he believe that he saw one.
Demon's come in human forms and that's a fact! Do you know where you are? Yahsua said people pray more in hell then they did not in hell! This is our hell loop we are humans but truly a spirit having a human experience! I don't like it here
Nice lighting, color correction, and camera/lens quality.
The concept of "belief" itself is a more complex thing than many people would assume. It's entirely possible for someone to think that they believe something because of their assumptions about the concept itself. In my experience "choice" doesn't seem to be relevant when it comes to believing something. I believe that I exist, but I don't have much choice about it. The very fact that people think they can choose what to believe opens the idea that they can then simply select certain ideas and decide whether they believe them or not. When you ask yourself if you believe something, and answer as honestly as you possibly can, you then make a discovery. Not a decision.
People openly say that they have "chosen" to believe certain things.
To me that's just admitting that they may not have considered the concept thoroughly.
Great video!
Thanks for your hard work!
Oh my God I love the first interview. Robert is hilarious in this one--he gets so spicy
Sometimes it takes many, many, many lives to find what your looking for.Its ok Love is patient.
Hare Krishna and the eternal light of our spiritual consciousness
This is an awesome channel!
Beautiful. Thank you.
In the Nyanza region of Kenya, we have a chance every year to interact with spiritual beings. We don't categorize them as angels or demons, but we call them ancestral spirits instead. One day when I have resources, I will document them to the world.
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I am looking forward to seeing your film.
there is no such thing as ancestral spirit.
@@99.99Msubscribers we would have if Africa had scriptures of its own.
I trust u bro
Appreciate the honesty in the quest for truth. As for Angels or Messengers, I had two witnesses, hundreds of miles away from each other, watching our live service, the other, a local, also at home watching live, both, independent of the other, called the Church to say there was an angel on the platform behind me... Their description was identical. He was rather tall, white flowing garment, standing behind me, as I lead songs, when I raised my hands upwards the being raised his, then stepped forward toward me, as if he went in me and was no longer seen. Two phone calls, at about the same time, one in Christiansburg, Virginia, the other in Lima, Ohio.
This I believe for I have seen both angels and demons in my life. Seen people also delivered from demons or demons manifesting and hearing inhuman voices talk out of them or maybe I just need medication mentally that seems to be killing people these days or turning them into zombies so say mentally.
Did both have the same model of tv? There r factors u would need to see similarities maybe both were on same drug or had same eye conditions or such
If they had more food, they would not be seeing angels! This is marvellous !
really good
At 6:14 I was laughing so hard. You asked the ultimate question. What are these angels doing?
We are all bound by free will, we were cursed with it and cast out into the world to suffer, there is no escaping this until death wether Angel's exist or not
@@KrisRoberts114 Well now I know
I know I'm going to be criticized, but I have dreams which sometimes point what is going to happen in future. Just few days ago I had to go to a long travel and I saw that I had an injury in my foot, and surprisingly the journey turned out to be very disturbing one.
I believe you :)
Take care in all your travels.
Just found this channel and I’m… obsessed
Spiritual truths are by their very nature not provable to others. They must be experienced to be understood.
From my journey, it seems apparent that experiencing spiritual truth usually requires two things of a person: 1) that they seek truth with passion, and 2) that they keep an open mind.
There may be other paths that lead there as well, but this one appears to be very effective and consistent.
Furthermore, failure to do either or both of those two things (seeking truth with passion, keeping an open mind) appears to be very effective at keeping one from experiencing spiritual truths.
This is amazing how intelligent people believe stuff
Very true I wonder this often 😌
@J w Why did you convert?
It's amazing how people think they are intelligent enough to rule it out
@@thagreatadante yeh exactly, everything from nothing for no reason makes perfect sense 🤔
If they exist, I've never seen them.
But, when a group of people share the belief in demons and angels, than they can manifest for them in an otherwise hard to explain experience. Such experiences can be very powerful while in fact they are illusions even if all members of the group are confirmative.
Visiting The Island of Haiti or Guyana when there is a Khali Pooja ritual or ceremony might have the word Illusion change to " Let's get the hell out of here"
Imagine my shock when I encountered these things *before* I believed, and was outright opposed to the idea they existed. I was warned that house was “haunted” and I didn’t believe.
@Molefe Neither hypnagogic nor hypnoporatic sleep paralysis can explain how the bed trampolined back into shape when the demon disappeared. I was launched into the air, flat on my back. I also couldn't move or blink my eyes, whereas in sleep paralysis I always can.
I've studied psychology and biology. My family paid for me to do nothing *but* study for three years following my brother's suicide. Biologically and psychologically reductionist arguments are rooted in presuppositions and misunderstandings, which expert biologists and psychologists acknowledge; they find my account troubling, but it can't be replicated, so it can't be studied.
@Molefe I see that I didn't provide my testimony, so you haven't seen the details that show it couldn't be imaginary. Here's the copy-pasted full testimony:
When my baby brother had just turned 4, before he could play pretend (but after he developed the concepts of individuality), he encountered shadow demons. The first attack left him with a facial scar, and he cried because he couldn't understand why "he pushed me." A year later our cousin was with him and both boys saw these things circling them, whispering, in broad daylight. My brother threw his arm over my cousin, backed around the corner of the fence, and ran inside grandma's house. They were screaming, terrified, and they were separated so grandma, my aunt, and my mom could figure out what happened. Both described the same things.
I believed at first, but later wrote it off as make-believe or hallucinations. But, almost a decade later, I tried to astral project (while awake). I was instantly paralyzed with my eyes open, unable to move my eyes or budge any part of me even an inch. This was not hypnagogic sleep paralysis, because with sleep paralysis you can shift and budge, and blink or look around. Also, sleep paralysis is ended by physical or audible stimulus... But I heard footsteps run up in the gravel outside. And then a shadow person came through the shut window. It crawled on the bed, and squished the mattress around, then put its hands on my hands and its feet on my feet. Its blank shadow face blocked out most of the ceiling. None of my lucid dreaming techniques worked, because I was awake. I jolt awake if a pet so much as shifts on my mattress, but this thing squashed the mattress around, then crushed me deep into the mattress with its weight.
The worst part was that it felt like it was waiting for me to give up or leave my body. I had the overwhelming sense of horror that it was trying to "get in," and it would wait patiently until I suffocated or until I gave up.
Finally, I remembered my mom's lessons and called on Jesus to save me. The shadow person vanished, and I was sprung up into the air (flat on my back) as the mattress trampolined back into shape. This 100% rules out sleep paralysis, hypnagogic or otherwise. It was actually my second encounter with a demon, but I'd convinced myself that the first experience was imaginary (even though it happened in broad daylight). I've since learned that faith in Jesus' name, and calling on God for help, always ends encounters with these things. Even regular, basic sleep paralysis ends when I call on Jesus' name.
My brother committed suicide not long after this. The following night, three separate households witnessed "Jimmy's ghost" as a shadow figure in a black cowboy hat. Each household came to me separately, and shared different experiences that all aligned. Each household was surprised to learn about the experiences of the others. One guy saw it with his brand new girlfriend, who never knew Jimmy. None of them were aware of Jimmy's or our cousin's encounters with "shadow people," and none were aware of my "astral projection" debacle. I had to explain to them what the bible says about familiar spirits and demons.
The one that tried to possess me, and the first one Jimmy saw, had no hats. Some of the swarm that attacked him and our cousin had hats, like cowboy hats and old Victorian hats, as well as at least one top hat. Some also have "tendrils" like shadow tentacles for hair. Some of these might be Satanists who astral project, like John Ramirez, Gideon Mulenga, and others who turned to Christ have claimed they once did. But I think they're mostly just demons.
And that's just one type of demonic entity. You can find hospital reports from secular nurses and doctors who saw incontrovertible evidence for demonic possessions. You can also find videos of surgeries that removed "alien implants" which defy modern technology from UFO victims (look up Dr. Leir). People who suffer from reoccurring UFO abductions have been known to end all their encounters by finding Jesus. These things often attempt to present themselves as "benevolent higher-dimensional entities" bringing gifts and salvation for us, just like they did in the bible.
@@WisdomThumbs i too believe in demons and Angels..
A practice meditation and meditation you encounter many entities from the universe, some have bad intentions some have good intentions.
3 creatures that exist actually :
Angels created from light
Jinn created from fire
Human being created from clay
I myself believe that there are actually an angel this one is for sure no doubt about it.
Not in the religious sense. That's for sure.
I could never understand why a god. Who is supposed to be everywhere at once. Needs an army of angels or demons to function.
Why need worshippers?
@Andreaz-64
That it does.
@@spectreagent00
Because no god has any power beyond the hands of the faithful. We have killed many a god just by not believing anymore.
You should ck out my playlists if you are interested in seeing my world view.
@@thomasridley8675 - you are so silly! Muhammad the only one true messenger received revelations while only in a cave - god speaks only Arabic. If you learn you live for eternity!
Thanks in advance
Why would a God, who is omnipotent, choose things based on a principle of economy of resources (the intuition you're using here)? Why is God needing to do something the only motivation He could have? This is an apealing argument because thats how humans think, and we're built to make economic choices, but it's a weak argument when trying to hypothesise about the motivations of God
1:54: Uh, NICE CAR, dude. Mine is a red 2011 Cayman S, with aftermarket turbo installed. I literally love that car.
“If they had more food they wouldn’t see so many angels” 😭😭😭
My favourite episode of the dozens I have watched.
Robert Kuhn is on fire in this one
I have reported this video for promoting conspiracy theories. I suggest you do the same
@@DavidSmith-wp2zb are you serious?
@@DavidSmith-wp2zb Weird comment
David smith-
Have a little faith 😇 in human kind
May god bless you,
Demons and angels are piloting the UFOs, but let's reveal one thing at time.
If you ever see one you'll never doubt it.
it’s called Free Will and God gave iT to us. He doesn’t permit evil, man does.
I don’t know if I’m any closer to truth, but it was an interesting discussion.
Brilliant video! Many thanks for this sober and open overview. Especially the part on the Jewish bible is very interesting, in my opinion.
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This is one of the best episodes, well explained and all with an open mind, I am not a believer, but I can not just close my mind and not do a research to find answers, we are in a very early stage of humanity and collective conscience could be very well be the answer, we just not have enough control of what our minds can do, but those who are against this idea, i bet one time in their lives said "i have a bad feeling about this, or do not say bad luck" like accepting that the mind is capable of the things they deny. Keep your minds open, those who have done it are the ones to give thanks for humanity development, if it was not for them we would still be worshiping the moon and the sun.
And yet the production of evidence has not happened to support these conclusions wholesale.
@@jrskp3677 it will be hard to prove for sometime, but the problem with the mind is our own mind, to be able to do things one have to believe the mind can do them, but most believe these things are impossible.. your own mind against you.
But, it happens, it works when we have clear minds.
Maybe one day we are visited by a being who never had limitations put by society
@@ruddyteck
Not to be pedantic on purpose, your use of "proof" instead of "prove" is a minor mistake which betrays your understanding.
Proof in math is a real thing.
Colloquially, in regular speech between laypersons, it's used because it's more familiar.
I too am a layperson. Not being college educated with any degree.
What I do understand is that the mind thinks in languages, the words we know and use need to reflect our meaning, intent and the better the words we have at our disposal, the more accurate the messages conveyed can be.
Like the difference between hoodrats, trailer parkians and the misuse of the language due to the urban and rap culture. They can have a meaningful conversation amongst themselves. Outside of their community, it's hard to understand what is being said. When asked to define words they use anger is the choice for whatever reason, they're offended, and they don't comprehend the multisyllabic terminology and think people are being "condescending know it all's" when that's not the case.
@@ruddyteck
It doesn't matter how hard a person or collective group believe something, that doesn't make it real. Not anything is possible.
Butterfly's don't pay eggs that turn into ducks that lay eggs that turn into trees that produce nuts that become apes.
I am not convinced that you're correct and I doubt you can produce a sufficient amount of "good evidence" that can show it to be true.
Facts are demonstrable, falsifiable, testable and can be verified by multiple independent sources for accuracy. When an amount of data is produced to warrant the truth behind something, it's real or possible.
Until then, it evidently isn't.
@@jrskp3677 it was a minor mistake, English is my 2nd language, i am trying my best to convey my idea, which i am only saying to keep an open mind, since we are still learning about our own human race.
Beliefs always depend on miraculous occurrences, I hear about it all the time in the company of seekers. Also, appearances are not real, they appear to be so yet they're just illusions
I just noticed one of the RUclips video chapters is called "Walter synod Armstrong" haha
Seems like Robert is an eternal skeptic no matter who talks to while he trying to get closer to truth.
That’s the point. To challenge the level of thinking of the person he’s speaking with. I do it all the time.
The point is to leave the decision to the viewer.
That's how Socrates worked.
I can't say for sure if there are angels and demons, but the conception of God in the West is very different from what people in the East believe. If God really is all knowing and all powerful, then why did he allowed for the fallen angels to rebel and then to become demons? He either didn't knew about it or he knew and made that on purpose and he created the devil. And if that's the case, then we're just pawns created by a powerful cosmic deity that can do with us whatever he pleases and we have to obey him or suffer the consequences. So much for free will.
We see and hear and sense what we want to. Everything we experience is because of the effects of external causes and all reactions that we perceive as from ourselves or within are chemically processed and procedurally determined.
Yep
How do you explain telepathy
All glory be to God. Hallelujah
I believe they do exist as good and bad (demons) on other planes (dimensions) of reality not observable by our 3-dimensional (only) world. Animals other than humans have a more active “6th sense” than most humans do. However, intuition and empathic abilities can be honed to perceive what we can’t “see” but “feel”. My reasons for belief in other creatures and beings is not just from a Christian standpoint, but because I feel their presence in my soul (brain, heart, and gut = soul). God, I believe, is the one Deity who initially “jumpstarted” the universe and life (from no life). Once the process began, it could not be stopped, and it proceeded according to how it was created. Much in our universe cannot yet be explained and is a process we follow as we learn and discover more about our reality and develop the technology to use the knowledge.
There are no good demons, you are deceived.
@@AnonymousC-lm6tc what about people who have good intentions but sin when trying to do good before becoming a demon?
You can't believe one race of creatures are inherently evil just because someone says so.
Besides didn't Lucifer used be a literal angel?
I'm glad your like the only believer in this skeptical comment section 🙏
Yin and Yang...Dark and Light. You can’t have one without the other.
So you are saying that there must be raped children, torture, child pornography, war, starvation, slavery, so we (the non-sufferers) can know what the "light" is. You are very simple minded.
@@Elaphe472 How would you know the light without the dark and as for simple minded, you don't know me? For all you know I might have a Phd. Philosophical thinking and anyone who takes the time to express views is never simple minded, simple minded is sitting in front of a tv watching mindless drivel.
As for peppa pig and SpongeBob
It is true or not true after all.
Non physical entity. Place memory.
Future memory. Visual constructs.
Object memory. Being augmented by an entity. Expanding awareness.
It really exist. For some people.
A miracle everyday.
It usually happens to people who somehow survived death.
I believe there is so much we don’t understand…. But I believe in angels 💯💯💯
Thanks Robert, this is easily the best thing on youtube and possibly the earth as well
When I was about 10, I found a half full motor boat gas tank down at the lake. I had some matches. Without thinking and not knowing how gas reacts to an open flame, I leaned over the opening, lit the match and dropped it. A huge burst of flames blew into my face and around my head. My friend saw it. I ran to the water screaming "am I on fire?!" Not one hair was burned. Nothing! I also hammered a nail into a battery and acid squurted into my eyes. Nothing again. I have a great guardian angel!!
For goodness' sake don't try Russian roulette.
@@davidcopson5800 Haha! 4 years ago I had lost everything I ever obtained, and was homeless. I started praying and talking to God more and more though. I was definitely on my way out. I had my suicide planned. Out of some miracle I ran into this woman who I met 2 years earlier. I saw her 3 times around town. She asked me to have a drink with her. I would've died that weekend living in the woods. It got really cold. But I told her my reality, and here we are 4 years later, married, with 2 kids, 2 houses and I'm sober and very happy! I know God helped me, and not a day goes by where I don't thank God for his help.
@@jakeyjervis That's a really inspiring story. Thank you for sharing. I'm delighted for you. Keep away from dangerous stuff though.
I see a demon prior to having a seizure whilst in ICU due to a drug overdose, I had never experienced a hallucination prior to this.
Reptilians love getting people hooked on drugs they enjoy the energy of suffering and the fake euphoria drugs give humans. They are for lack of a better word, "Demons" or lower Dimensional entities is a better term. They are parasites. You were in between life and death, this is why you saw it. The Spirit realm is the fourth Dimension.
"hooked on drugs"... Like the drug alcohol?
@@MrJohnnyseven Yes. Alcohol too.
I agree with Robert's thoughts on a rational account of God, Angels and Demons....I find it as odd as if someone rationally describes their pet unicorn that they purchased from a goblin, it is bizarre, but each to their own I guess.
ha, even when we think we understand and agree = it's unique and different
For the first guy interviewed; first, assuming he is correct in that these people behind him on stage were devine beings, that makes them visually observable. That is jaw-dropping to me---that makes them subject to scientific enquiry. Second, why is he so sure they were angels? Why not devils? Maybe angels and devil locked in mortal mental combat with each other. This is what I think of as going down a rabbit hole.
That's why you can't take him seriously. Probably dreaming . That's all.
Angels are great beings, they have Free Will and many beautiful characteristics, but are not to be held in such high regard as to their powers over humans - this is not the case. They are 1 Creation within, of God's Infinite Ability.
I've noticed, for the very few II remember interacting with, is they do a job given to them but make a wise choice to give all credit and important decision unto God.
If you seek you will find. Seek and be rewarded. All credit goes to ONE GOD. You may be the best thing on earth right now. Better than even the Angels if you try. You can change the planet. It is actually pretty simple. Truth can be found in multiple books. God Wrote multiple Books. God is operating on a global scale.
God explained to me many things in a PBE and NDE. God can make something out of nothing. Angels can be directed to pluck people from Hell and send them to a new life with much of their memory removed. I was given instructions by Angels before I came here and have experienced them operate in this world. I was not from reincarnation but a new soul in God's Creation. I remember my Creation. The created instantly and absolutely knows their Creator, which is The Creator.
As for reincarnation, because the most of the world currently gets it wrong..... God sees this very much very similar or same as death. I did not understand death entirely before I came to this world, Then God made it crystal clear to me that our goal is not death, it is not reincarnation, it is not going to hell or somewhere with much of our memory removed. 99% of your memory removed is death.
We are supposed to keep our memory from this point forward. We are supposed to do these things: heal, forgive, ask for forgiveness and learn how to Love God and others.
We are especially supposed to establish a Relationship with our Creator, The Creator. This is the assurance that death and reincarnation will be avoided. Seek The Creator from your heart and your soul. God bless you!
@@MikeSmith-tm3zq great testimony Mike! I believe everything you said. These skeptics make me sick. Closed minded. To them, if you don't have a picture then you are nuts. I wish they would have an experience and then see what they have to say. Probably dismiss it as gas.
And what if they’re non- physical entities that have nothing to do with angels or demons? What if they’re benevolent consciousness angels that are waiting for us to abandon dark-ages religions? I’m open minded to the existence of higher dimensions but abrahamic religions are just laughable, and I’m embarrassed to think that anyone actually believes in them
@@excusetheblood By 'non- physical entities' do you mean non- physical physicalities? Let's take a moment to consider the meaning of being open minded. Let's do it by contrast. To one side is This is my belief and any counter evidence must be wrong on the face of it. On the other side is Any statement could conceivably mean something, well it might be true.
The first is certainly not open mindedness and the second is not open mindedness either. It is empty headedness. Open mindedness presupposes a firm worldview against which propositions are weighted. Clarity of proposition is paramount in this process. A person with an open mind, in my view, can discard a proposition at the snap of the fingers. But more often it is a slog of establishing meaning.
Great variety of guests. From a skeptic I’d like to hear a better argument from psychology, less pigeon holing and trying to dismiss far out life changing experiences as just floaters + paranoia. It would be interesting to hear what Jordan Peterson would say about angels as someone who would probably take a middle position. On the believer side Grant Cameron would have a lot to say from his research of experiencers, most of whom are not religious and have private collections of tens of thousands of orb, mist, and light rod photos. You really can’t get too deep into the phenomena without analyzing the many people who have claimed to experience it.
Couldn't agree with you more, Ye!
Also: The "rods"/"skyfish"/"sylphs" topic is actually a fairly interesting one, too!
My Angel is above my head 24/7 I don’t even think about it anymore like we are in a symbiosis of some kind now. But the beginning was VERY surreal experience
I come to church several times a year because faith and history fascinate me. I have asked several times if Jesus, God or angels can help me with my mental and physical complaints. No one ever came and no one ever helped me. Then what am I doing wrong?
The ‘good reason’ for evil being allowed in God’s plan is simply that we are allowed to choose our actions and will never be forced to choose the ‘right’ action. Agency is a key concept for understanding God’s plan.
If God exists then there is no free will.
One should also consider the inclusion of the melding of non caporal beings with the position of multiple dimensions and the inclusion of proception levels. One aspect of all is the interest non terrestrial aliens have in us, if abductions happen. From the stand point of what a human being is one aspect of that is our ability to deal with reality by frequencies, light, sound and both in multiple frequencies usually augmented by detection through mechanical means. Interesting both eyes and ears are directly wired to the brain. All other sensory stimulus must pass through the spinal column , entering into the brain via the brain stem. Humans have the ability to receive and transmit many levels of frequencies. Though not always aware of either we still do. So much so we can modify the world around us, either in perception by others or us but could also physically effect what we recognize as being 'real'. Through meditative practice one can control breathing and heart rate. Through mental techniques the brain can rewire it's self into a less impaired state of being. One can also get the brain adducted to stimuli that provides a dopamine release. Different efforts employed for this reaction can be from positive or negative intentions. When positive the result is a brain interested in taking on challenges. Our hearts have similar brain cells and can function similar to the brain through learning and memory storage but also can through activation by harmonization act like a flash drive booster to a computer allowing greater access to sub or hidden brain functions. You put forward the question of the uniqueness of being human through the idea of salvation. The other word use for that action is Redemption. From the OT the use of redemption between related humans is a family member redeems a fellow family member from slaver by paying the slaver the price required to become the slave's new master. Then once in position of the slave granting them freedom based on being family to them that had been enslaved now grant them equal status in the family - free and also beholding to the family for that redemption. In the first verses of Chapter 1 of Genesis features both sound and light that exhibit waves that may result in the a contraction into matter in this dimension but could be different in other dimensions. Since one aspect of God is being outside of time, or the time dimension, results in one more dimension, and the greater number of dimension the simpler the math. We may be the hardware and software to be a multi-dimensional communications device. A life form that has God given uniqueness that is greater than we know and can only crack the door ajar as to what our real potential is. Consider who was more important to the advancement of humanity, a wise king/emperor or the chief that made their meals? Do we know the favorite chief of Cyrus the Great, Charlemagne or Chin?
@Gilbert Jones
So that’s a ‘no’ then?
@@curbroadshow No? More like human understanding is not very broad or deep.
The arrogance of someone like the Darmouth professor is just baffling to me. To be so closed minded is just inconceivable to me. We know so little about anything at all. We are so arrogant as a species sometimes, it is so upsetting.
As an educated Black Magician, after 13 years I’ve done over 2,700 Demonic & angelic evocations. We can hear them, see them, & feel them. Their gnosis is a dizzying amount of information.