Radiohead's Lost Wall of Ice Album
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 18 фев 2022
- The Wall of Ice story centers around a leaked Radiohead song, These Are My Twisted Words. Nobody knows for sure where it came from or whether it was the only song meant to be released at the time, but speculation was rampant about a possible album or EP.
The song was unconventional but it’s the equally unconventional story surrounding it that’s of note. It’s a product of the internet at the time filled with mysterious people, websites, and files.
A lot happened during that week in 2009. Was this really a lost Radiohead album / EP? It’s an interesting story with little closure but details that will make you wonder what was going on. 
Видеоклипы
And now, 14 years later we found out that the second album of The Smile will be called "Wall Of Eyes"
I actually came to watch this after Wall of Eyes was announced because I have a suspicion that it could possibly include some unreleased Radiohead material like the first album from The Smile did.
And today, The Smile announced their new album "Wall of eyes"
It's so nice to be on their fanbase and follow how the songs evolve over the years before being published. Now we're seeing some songs from this period, like Floodgates and Skrting on the surface, becoming The Smile material
Didn't know Skirting actually became something, listening now! Thanks!
I love Skirting on the Surface. Definitely in my top ten Radiohead songs. I love Thom’s piano version. I remember hearing Atoms for Peace play a more livelier version which has a really good vibe to it. I’m not as keen on The Smile version but the video is rather good.
Is Floodgates going to be released by The Smile? 🙏🏻 This: ruclips.net/video/gEwvhRfEz-s/видео.html
Love that they take time to perfect and recycle their work 😁
@@sharmalarmAre you talking about Radiohead's full band live versions? I know he played the piano version at AFP shows but I've never heard the whole band perform it.
Btw, Writer's Block
If the "Wall Of Ice" ep actually happened, I would've had this as the track listing
01 - These Are My Twisted Words
02 - Come To Your Senses
03 - I Lie Awake
04 - Morning Mr Magpie
05 - Skirting On The Surface
I would add Harry Patch as well
I always thought the tree thing was interesting. These Are My Twisted Words, Supercollider / The Butcher, and TKOL REMIX 1234567 have that same branch art. The Daily Mail / The Staircase has a eye tree thing on the cover, and Harry Patch (In Memory of) shows a field of chopped trees.
These Are My Twisted Words is without a doubt one of the most underrated Radiohead songs ever. Such a phenomenal track.
Good band with songs I never like. And I like lots of “depressing music” (Neil Young) and idiosyncratic bands. Also dislike also Queen, think Pink Floyd is another good band with music that never moves me but towards boredom. Pearl Jam with arrogant Veeder is unlikeable. Rush all sounds the same. Underrated: Dinosaur Jr, The Replacements, Marshall Crenshaw, Buffalo Springfield. Two very mediocre records: The Beatles White Album and Abbey Road. Just ask George Martin when he was alive, he would tell you "oh I'm I'm still alive".
@@oppothumbs1
what was the point of this comment ? 🤷
People just can't handle it
@@oppothumbs1 cool story
@@michaelmcdonald8452 With seeming negativity, comes some truth. I love Michael McDonald "What a Fool Believes". 🎒🚶 😁
I enjoyed the analysis. Looking forward to more deep dives into music stories!
Thanks Wumboginator!
1:01 - “before your very eyes” is a song from Thom’s Atoms For Peace band
Bands, and especially Radiohead go into a studio a lot more than the average person knows. If anyone has ever wondered why multiple studios are credited or thanked in liner notes it is because albums often are comprised of songs recorded throughout a span of time and multiple different sessions. Of course sometimes it’s all done in one studio but I know in rainbows for sure was done in at least two places. I am almost certain that most of Nude from the album was actually the exact recording from their oxfordshire studio for their webcam series. They just spruced it up for the album. Which I don’t blame them at all, that recording could never be beat.
Anyway long story short… bands have ideas. Sometimes they share those ideas before they come to fruition and plans change. It seems like Radiohead had some pretty good sessions around 2009 that let them believe they would release something sooner. They probably stalled a bit, re thought it out and went back into a studio and recorded more and made the king of limbs out of what they had.
That’s not to say there isn’t more somewhere. I’d bet there is. As we have seen, they have been able to release recordings from eras twenty years prior. I’d bet a lot of money for material to surface when the 20 year anniversaries come up for every single album. In rainbows - king of limbs especially. I have no doubt we will get “new” old material every 20 year anniversary from now on. I’d guess there’s probably an early studio version of the present tense, a studio of open the floodgates, perhaps a studio or demo of “wake me before they come” , probably a studio piano version of burn the witch and numerous others that will materialize from the era.
OK NOT OK had some fantastic gems on it so here's hoping your right on future 20 year anniversary sets
I think there's a lot less to come.
@@watermusic4381 I can definitely see how someone may think so. I wouldn't be too surprised if you are right. But from what I gathered, the few years around In Rainbows seems like they had quite a lot of ideas. Little clips of bits of songs all over the place, little live gems and whatnot. Well... I hope anyway.
Where can I find this Oxfordshire recording of Nude?
2009 recording sessions would be really hype to hear
These Are My Twisted Words would have to be one of my favourite Radiohead track’s, was chuffed when I discovered it a few years back..
I wonder how much of the smile’s new album wall of eyes, takes from these early concepts. It seems like thom and Johnny have had these ideas for a long time just haven’t landed on the right sound, kind of like what happened with true love waits but on a larger scale. Very exciting stuff.
thank you so much for making this video, i rarely see people talking about this. What struck me back then is how “hip” the band seemed to be to the release groups way of packaging and branding their stuff. thanks again!
These guys absolutely did their research on that culture. Their imitation was well done. Thanks for watching!
Radiohead has done a very good job of staying relevant in the music community. In Rainbows released around 20 years after they formed and yet it's captured the attention and adoration of so many people much younger than them - even considered Radiohead's best album by tonnes of people, even older fans and critics. The fact that they change their promotional and release campaigns with each album helps.
I almost forgot about Wall of Ice. What a glorious EP it would have been. I remember Hail to the Thief was rumored to be called Are You Listening? That title would have sucked.
Oh wow, didn't know about that one lol. Agreed, that would've sucked
Hail To The Thief is also not a good title
@@Jamesharveycomics In Rainbows is a good title... for a children's show
@@bjrnbrynemo9059 fun fact: Thom Yorke wanted to call Hail To The Thief “The Bony King Of Nowhere”
@@Jamesharveycomics yes it absolutely is
wow this is your first non-tab video. its great man, hope to see more content like this, good work
I am so glad I found this, thanks!
Thanks! Working on the next video like this too. Stay Tuned!
I think Wall of Ice might have at one point been an EP the band planned to release digitally in 2009 thru torrents or something else as you say (with These Are My Twisted Words and a couple other tracks that end up on TKOL), but instead of that, they decided to drop Twisted Words as a single (with the sneaky leak beforehand), and keep plugging away in the studio, making more tracks than an EPs-worth to create The King of Limbs for a more proper album release. That's my theory anyway!
This, or damn near this is almost certainly the correct answer. Bands, and especially Radiohead go into a studio a lot more than the average person knows. If anyone has ever wondered why multiple studios are credited or thanked in liner notes it is because albums often are comprised of songs recorded throughout a span of time and multiple different sessions. Of course sometimes it’s all done in one studio but I know in rainbows for sure was done in at least two places. I am almost certain that most of Nude from the album was actually the exact recording from their oxfordshire studio for their webcam series. They just spruced it up for the album. Which I don’t blame them at all, that recording could never be beat.
Anyway long story short… bands have ideas. Sometimes they share those ideas before they come to fruition and plans change. It seems like Radiohead had some pretty good sessions around 2009 that let them believe they would release something sooner. They probably stalled a bit, re thought it out and went back into a studio and recorded more and made the king of limbs out of what they had.
That’s not to say there isn’t more somewhere. I’d bet there is. As we have seen, they have been able to release recordings from eras twenty years prior. I’d bet a lot of money for material to surface when the 20 year anniversaries come up.
I agree with both of your comments. They probably expected to have more complete ideas and after it stalled a bit they decided to wait a bit till the next release. Like you said, maybe we'll see more in a King of Limbs deluxe set probably due for release in 2031.
Thanks for the comments!
@@writersblock8380 interesting notion for sure but I get the sense that there’s some sort of riddle that needs to be solved to release this Album. This is a great strategy to stay relevant for the next century by leaving these albums a mysterious treasure to be solved and shared. “If you say the word, if you say the word “ I’ll come running” -RH
With them skipping a HTTT rerelease, this seems less likely
Very interesting! Didn't know this and I absolutely adore Radiohead and/or Thom Yorke
Love that song. It’s such an anomaly in their catalogue. I always wished they’d done more songs like it.
Supercollider/The Butcher was released in 2011 with the tree imagery as the cover.
You're right, just looked it up. Maybe they used their own stacking trick from the PDF to get the pattern, that would have been cool
Man i hope there are more tracks somewhere like These Are My Twisted Words, such a wild sound
Ah yes that time you find These Are My Twisted Words and you find the reversed version after that. That's how my youtube days started.
Oh man, classic RUclips right there!
My theory is that "Wall of ice" is just referencing for Kid A considering it's theme and it's 10th anniversary being around this time.
I listened to TAMTW a thousand times that year it came out. Strangely alot of us thought they were going to release more music and then, silence.
Interesting. I didn't know any of this. I forgot In Rainbows Disc 2 came out (again) in 2009 as it was included in the 07 Box edition of In Rainbows.
Nice! Good info, all new to me. Thanks buddy!
I think us nerds need to realise that whatever the band chooses to release, we will get to enjoy. I’ve been down this road with Josh and the whole TKOL2 website he created, and whilst it was fun it garnered nothing.
I also recall reading an interview before TKOL album came out where a band member talked about going into the studio with a new batch/album of completed songs and Nigel Godrich told them to shelf it because they we’re going to create a new album together on the spot with each band member on a computer/synth and then they would have to recreate/reinterpret what loops/sounds/parts individually on their respective instruments. The results can be heard on tKOL album because it sounds like some effed up collage that was put through a sausage grinder and reinterpreted in a space where time and the color silver does not exist
Jonny Greenwood wrote the recording software they used to create the samples. There's an interview with Ed where he states the material for The King Of Limbs wasn't meant to be an official release, but at a listening party some friends had convinced them to commit to turning it into an album. Ed also talks about how he feels the songs didn't have enough time in the oven to bake properly. The live versions on some of the tracks definitely breath more!
Also cool how wall of eyes lyrics were on the tkol news paper
Still missing a few leaks that I can't find to this day. My Broken Legs which had an upload with that video of that strange interpretive performance of the people dancing with poles attached to them and banging on things. And another was This Is The Panic Office which is on the Daniel Stashskin channel but got delisted due to copyright
I can't remember precisely how the first sounded but Panic Office is still stuck in NY head to this day, it had a droning, shrieking lead throughout and had a slow bpm
ruclips.net/video/byz7JCf5thM/видео.html this is the performance I was talking about. And Panic Office isnt related to the other media they had released under the same name, it sounded like OK Computer era Radiohead. Damn shame that we can't find these anymore
I've actually never heard of any of this, thanks for sharing! That video is certainly unusual
@@writersblock8380 My Broken Legs was around 2014, not sure if it got re-released as something else but apparently nobody saved it when it was briefly uploaded. I used to listen to it on my Xbox back in the day. And Panic Office was around 2019-2020, you can still find it if you look hard enough but the video is unable to be played.
could you do the chords for Earthmover, by Have a Nice Life? i've been learning how to play guitar with your videos
Hi Cristian, sure I'll try to figure it out. Might take a bit but I'll add it to the list. Thanks!
What an odd story from an odd band. Great video
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks!
Stuff like this song and all the b-sides that came along with TKOL makes me think that album was meant to be/could have been so much more. With a little more polishing (since the live versions ending up being better than a lot of the studio versions) and a better/fuller tracklist, it could've been their next Kid A imo. I still like the album but man, what a weird time for them.
The wasted potential of TKOL will always bother me. Such a poor studio album yet some very good tracks. So weird.
I suspect that they pulled back on other songs they were writing at the time of Twisted Words & developed them for King of Limbs
I had no idea. This is fascinating.
Now we have "Wall of Eyes" by the Smile!
These are my Twisted Words was so good -_-
"Wall of Eyes" became the second Album of The Smile...
Id die for radiohead
So does anyone know why torrent was thought of as such an innovative way to release music? I thought I heard Thom made a lot of money from his solo release but I’m not sure.
from wikipedia: Yorke released Tomorrow's Modern Boxes independently via a paid-for BitTorrent bundle. After having criticized the streaming service Spotify, which they felt did not fairly compensate new artists, Yorke and Godrich expressed their wish to give "control of internet commerce back to people who are creating the work".
They ultimately released their only bland album next with King of Limbs. A slog of a record that represents a dynamic plateau. Little variance. Little melody.
Before your very eyes also turned into an atoms for peace title
Sooner or later and before your very eyes...will be released by the supergroup Atoms for Peace
Glad I hadn't discovered Radiohead yet!
Gives even more to discover then, thanks for watching!
Sooner or later and before your very eyes
...will be released by the supergroup Atoms for Peace
Uhm. Yes. Or has been on repeat in mi casa since 09.
My MP3s have been worn down to the nub by now. Thanks for watching!
amazing video :o
Maybe it's just Thom's twisted words
Subbed👍👻☑️ yes, i want more - I WANT MY WBTV‼️
Given the poem i think it's safe to assume the Wall of Eyes title track has been in the works for 14 years
yeah
Radiohead is the real deal.
Well, I like the cartoon! :)
this kinda sounds like a demake version of tkol tbh
I am a Radiohead fan. 😭
me too 😭
Wait you paid for the mp3 versions of In Rainbows instead of the WAV files? Man. Thats like choosing Bud Light over a nice frosty local brewed IPA.
just an audiophile joke btw
Jeez….you think your a big fan but I hadn’t ever heard of this. I may be giving away my age with this remark …..not so internet savvy.
I only remember being refunded on Tomorrow’s Modern Boxes because something wasn’t working and I never did try again. They have been good with the deluxe versions though…..well maybe until now as I heard that there were some defects on the KiD Amnesiac pressings. I’ve bought the cream and the red vinyl but my turntable is down right now so I haven’t gotten to spin them yet. Xl Recordings seems to have a lot of vinyl QC issues as the vinyl I’ve bought doesn’t sound all that good. Am I the only one? Hoping my King Of Limbs 45 rpms sound good. They did replacements on Moon Shaped Pool so I hope they can back the KID Amnesiac deluxe packages.
:)
Sigh. what.cd … what a glorious time we had
The internet's changed a lot since those times, and fast. Thanks for watching!
i hope they will release the "depressing" version of man of war , someday.....
King of Limbs should have included Daily Mail and TaMTW imo
🦠
it's an obvious flat earth reference.
Radiohead is very hit and miss and they haven't had a good album since Rainbows..........supremely disappointed
with their last 15 years of weird music. That crappy last album made me lose all hope for anything good in the future.
Their good stuff was incredible.....I miss those days.
lol
Wow, that was a non story
great video
I am reading Monster as we speak Dr Tenma. No spoilers!