To save cost the string is basic. I always recommend a Fast Flight string. They stretch less and provide an increase in arrow speed. It is a solid bow and I am glad you like it.
Yeah, when you are just getting started you may not even notice but as you prepare for serious accuracy or hunting, you'll probably want to upgrade the string.
I'm a long time bowhunter and have been reasonably successful but always with a compound bow. Time for a change and shopping for a recurve. This video has been very helpful and appreciated. Thank you!
I bought this in 45lb draw weight. This is my first recurve. No issues with the draw weight. I shoot it every day, probably about 100-200 arrows a session. It gets easier to draw really fast. Eat your Wheaties and do your pushups. You’ll be fine.
The black hunter seems better, has a max of 60 lbs if you get it from the original mandarin duck company, the riser is way more ergonomic, the shelf isn't completely center shot but the sage is even less center shot and of course the black hunter looks cooler and is also shorter and the limbs are thinner (both features make for a faster arrow) And the only con (but not a con for my needs) is that it has literally no ports for any equipment or add-ons.
As someone else mentioned below, no need to replace the string. Just re-do the serving. It's cheap and easy. Also, run some bow-string wax up and down your string every shooting session and that will help increase your string life. IMO, I wouldn't wax the serving. Might make it a little too slick and effect your release.
Been shooting a recurve for over 40 years,and had many bows. My 2 cents...which cost no one anything..is this. #1 this bow will do whatever a $1000+ bow will. #2 it will down any game on the planet. #3 it's not the bow...it's the Indian shooting it. No bow is accurate without practice, As for the bow...tune it with a good string and arrows,and your set for years to come.
I bought a takedown years ago that looked pretty much identical to this bow. It said Kiowa on the top limb. It was around $225...and that was way back in the late 19, yes kiddies, 1990's. I got hosed. It was a pretty good bow though. I got 50lb. Limbs with it. Then I did something stupid. I left it strung, in my trunk, on a hot Iowa day. One limb delaminated. I tried to get replacement limbs through the Archery Shop in Iowa where I bought it, but the owner said he couldn't help me. I can't remember how I found the distributor, but they were in like Chatsworth, California, and as luck would have it, I was going there in about 1 month. And I was actually going to be driving by Chatsworth in my travels. I picked up, at the distributor, a set of 55lb. Limbs. Like I said, it was a good bow (not like a 750 dollar custom) but good. I think this same bow, made in China, has been available to U.S. for decades now and I think they can be bought for around 110 to 130 dolls
I have the 60 pound Draw back for my survival preps being someone who can no longer have a gun I decided on the recurve bow and this makes a perfect survival bow in my opinion I mean this thing is amazing
Looks like you’re new to traditional. A few problems here. 1. That rest is crap but there’s no way you should be going through a rest every few weeks or after several hundred shots. There is obviously a tuning issue there. Improper nock height and improper arrow spine are culprits. I shoot in excess of several hundred shots per week (sometimes in a day) through my bows and my rests can last years. 2. You don’t have any nocking points on your string. The back of the arrow is free to slide up and down the string at the shot. This gives wildly varying inconsistency. It’s also why you have excessive serving wear. The back of that arrow is literally scraping that serving up and down like a cheese grater. You really oughtta have a nock above and below your arrow nock. 3. You don’t mention the specs of the bow (weight, exact draw length, brace height, etc) and more importantly, the specs of the arrow you’re shooting (spine, length, insert weight, tip weight, fletching type and configuration). Be curious to see you address these. Take care, Emrah
Hey Emrah, this is actually my first recurve bow. Yes, I've very new to the sport and am giving a review of this bow from a beginner's perspective. I took it to an archery shop just a few days ago and got all that taken care of. I got the bow in 40lb draw weight. Thanks for the feedback.
"That rest is crap but there’s no way you should be going through a rest every few weeks or after several hundred shots." Agreed! I've shot thousands of arrows off the stock rest and it's absolutely fine. I also had a bowyer make me a custom string for the bow so the cheap sting it comes with isn't an issue either. It's light, quick, easy to assemble/disassemble, and the limbs for it come in every poundage you could reasonably want with a starter bow. Is it the best recurve in the world? No. But it's pretty solid.
Its important to dry fire a bow to dry the epoxy resin that isn't exposed to the air and prevent the bow queering when canting. To dry fire just pull back and let go of the string 8 or 9 times at full draw when you first receive the bow. Any issues let me know and i can direct you to where you need to go 😊
And the "Kiowa" from the 1990's. Yes this thing has been marketed under many different names. I don't know how many different Chinese companies have been involved in producing this bow.
Mine came with a stringer but no rest.......I over-ordered my draw weight like you said so I ordered a second set of limbs Sammick Sage 35# that do not fit tight rattle around loose I think bolts are 2 long for thinner limbs maybe not good to cut ?
Re-do that serving. A set of string should last over a year with daily heavy use. 3.00 for plastic rest. 15.00 or so for a flip-away metal rest. I use metal rests
25#-60#. String isn't any good, get fast flight string!! I have 30# & 50# limbs for mine! 50# is a bit two heavy I find, wish I would have gotten the 45# ones instead!
Does it shoot vanes easily? I want to use Carbon arrows with vanes for durability. I have seen people put sights and d-loop wrist release to these and it virtually becomes as "accurate" as compound. Btw what rest is best for this bow?
If you have $300+ you could probably do better but like someone else in the comments said this bow will do whatever an expensive bow will do. Accuracy and power.
I got one ain't bad bow for the .money or what I paid for .mine. Take down bow we call em. I put a small stabilizer on mine. I don't use the plastic rest I use the wood rest with bear fur on it. I shoot with out sights. There's away to string abow by putting it between your legs but I would have to show you its easy. If you know what to do,,,
Hey Dave ☺️ join the club. I've Been " getting back into" archery For several years. You are on the Right track. Get one that pulls Long enough without killing Your arm, back and shoulder
@@billbertagnoli4226 The choice is very limited from what I can see at the moment. A bow I have looked at is the 60" Mohican from Bodnik he says it's guaranteed to 32". It might be one for you to test out in future. Cheers
My Kiowa (same bow) stacked pretty good past 28". I have shot around 3 high end custom bows (Chastain:my favorite; Blacktail by Norm Johnson; Black Widow: wicked smooth and fast) and back 15 years ago they were worth every penny...none of those bows stacked, but then I don't have a 30" draw length either.
3 bucks every 200 shoots ? I’m good thanks I ahoot everyday that’s a slow day so maybe 6 bucks a day that’s 180 bucks a month that terrible man so just change the thing once for a metal one
i agree, If you don't pay at least 12 grand for a bow or rifle, you might as well throw it in the trash, You get what you pay for, By the way, I paid over 40 grand for a JUNK Silverado and it still broke down. And yes I am being sarcastic.. This is an entry level piece of equipment, not a custom made bow. It is what it is..
You're talking over really long periods of time, like 15-20 years. If you take care of your bow and keep it in a room temp dry area it can last forever.
The wooden riser isn't very durable if you're shooting with a pair of 60 lb limbs...Mine starts to crack after shooting 1500 arrows with 60lb limbs. (I also have another pair of 40 lb limbs to practice my shooting form, also shot about 1500 arrows) And when shooting 60 lb limbs, better to use arrows heavier than 500 grains. I shot 400-grain and the limb delaminated after 600 shots (never dry fire). My draw length is 28 inch, very standard. As of accuracy, I can land most of the arrows within 7 rings (144 cm diameter target) at 50 meter after only 3 months of practice (with 60lb limbs, a cheap sight, a short stabilizer and a cheap plastic rest). I guess it's really good among beginner bows. The string is fine. It can definitely last thousands of shots. The plunger hole is quite pointless as the riser is cut only less than 5 mm pass the center. Samick sage overall is a great bow for its price but it cannot handle 60lb draw weight very well...
Yeah, I've found this bow to be more accurate than bows twice the price. Since I only shoot 45/50lb I was not aware of the 60 lb draw weight issue. Good to know.
To save cost the string is basic. I always recommend a Fast Flight string. They stretch less and provide an increase in arrow speed. It is a solid bow and I am glad you like it.
Yeah, when you are just getting started you may not even notice but as you prepare for serious accuracy or hunting, you'll probably want to upgrade the string.
Have this exact bow with a 50 lbs draw weight. Changed the the string out right away (personal pref). Love my bow.
Yeah the string it comes with is not horrible but personal preference trumps all.
I'm a long time bowhunter and have been reasonably successful but always with a compound bow. Time for a change and shopping for a recurve. This video has been very helpful and appreciated. Thank you!
I love compound bows but I prefer the natural feel of a recurve. Plus they look better in my opinion.
I bought this in 45lb draw weight. This is my first recurve. No issues with the draw weight. I shoot it every day, probably about 100-200 arrows a session. It gets easier to draw really fast. Eat your Wheaties and do your pushups. You’ll be fine.
The black hunter seems better, has a max of 60 lbs if you get it from the original mandarin duck company, the riser is way more ergonomic, the shelf isn't completely center shot but the sage is even less center shot and of course the black hunter looks cooler and is also shorter and the limbs are thinner (both features make for a faster arrow)
And the only con (but not a con for my needs) is that it has literally no ports for any equipment or add-ons.
Great, to the point review. Exactly what I needed to see. Thanks
It's what I'm here for. :)
I like the design of the bow riser.
I started with them and highly recommend fast flight string, it will shoot much much better.
Thank you for the video I really enjoyed it and I just purchased this bow after seeing your review
like the content man! you've got my sub!
As someone else mentioned below, no need to replace the string. Just re-do the serving. It's cheap and easy. Also, run some bow-string wax up and down your string every shooting session and that will help increase your string life. IMO, I wouldn't wax the serving. Might make it a little too slick and effect your release.
Been shooting a recurve for over 40 years,and had many bows.
My 2 cents...which cost no one anything..is this.
#1 this bow will do whatever a $1000+ bow will.
#2 it will down any game on the planet.
#3 it's not the bow...it's the Indian shooting it. No bow is accurate without practice,
As for the bow...tune it with a good string and arrows,and your set for years to come.
Great points! Love number #3. It's not the bow, it's the archer.
*you're
What you meant with indian shooting it?
@@dhruvpuri6546 native americans also known as Indians, were associated with wooden recurve bows and this is whag he's referring to
@@nathanpartin7197seems like it's time to change our country name and nationality name and get back to an old one
Sammick sage is a phenomenal bow for the money I eventually upgraded to an ilf rig but it's a great starter bow
Yes, this bow is great for hunting and target practice.
@@getrecurvebow309 please help me out, should I buy the samick sage or Polaris??
I bought a takedown years ago that looked pretty much identical to this bow. It said Kiowa on the top limb. It was around $225...and that was way back in the late 19, yes kiddies, 1990's. I got hosed. It was a pretty good bow though. I got 50lb. Limbs with it. Then I did something stupid. I left it strung, in my trunk, on a hot Iowa day. One limb delaminated. I tried to get replacement limbs through the Archery Shop in Iowa where I bought it, but the owner said he couldn't help me. I can't remember how I found the distributor, but they were in like Chatsworth, California, and as luck would have it, I was going there in about 1 month. And I was actually going to be driving by Chatsworth in my travels. I picked up, at the distributor, a set of 55lb. Limbs. Like I said, it was a good bow (not like a 750 dollar custom) but good. I think this same bow, made in China, has been available to U.S. for decades now and I think they can be bought for around 110 to 130 dolls
Great video and review. Thank you. I plan to buy one.
Changed the strings many times now. I recommend Rogue bowstrings.
Great video man! Thank you!
Black man with a Bow and Arrow ❤❤
My left handed #45 Sage is awesome.
I love that there is a great bow that is offered in left-hand orientation. You guys are quite limited in your archery options.
I have the 60 pound Draw back for my survival preps being someone who can no longer have a gun I decided on the recurve bow and this makes a perfect survival bow in my opinion I mean this thing is amazing
I have the samick sage, I think it is wel worth the money I paid for it
Agreed. For the price, this bow is more than worth it.
Looks like you’re new to traditional. A few problems here.
1. That rest is crap but there’s no way you should be going through a rest every few weeks or after several hundred shots. There is obviously a tuning issue there. Improper nock height and improper arrow spine are culprits. I shoot in excess of several hundred shots per week (sometimes in a day) through my bows and my rests can last years.
2. You don’t have any nocking points on your string. The back of the arrow is free to slide up and down the string at the shot. This gives wildly varying inconsistency. It’s also why you have excessive serving wear. The back of that arrow is literally scraping that serving up and down like a cheese grater. You really oughtta have a nock above and below your arrow nock.
3. You don’t mention the specs of the bow (weight, exact draw length, brace height, etc) and more importantly, the specs of the arrow you’re shooting (spine, length, insert weight, tip weight, fletching type and configuration).
Be curious to see you address these. Take care,
Emrah
Hey Emrah, this is actually my first recurve bow. Yes, I've very new to the sport and am giving a review of this bow from a beginner's perspective. I took it to an archery shop just a few days ago and got all that taken care of.
I got the bow in 40lb draw weight.
Thanks for the feedback.
"That rest is crap but there’s no way you should be going through a rest every few weeks or after several hundred shots."
Agreed! I've shot thousands of arrows off the stock rest and it's absolutely fine. I also had a bowyer make me a custom string for the bow so the cheap sting it comes with isn't an issue either.
It's light, quick, easy to assemble/disassemble, and the limbs for it come in every poundage you could reasonably want with a starter bow.
Is it the best recurve in the world? No. But it's pretty solid.
I think should make a youtube video on this. You seem like you definitely know what you're talking about!
Its important to dry fire a bow to dry the epoxy resin that isn't exposed to the air and prevent the bow queering when canting.
To dry fire just pull back and let go of the string 8 or 9 times at full draw when you first receive the bow. Any issues let me know and i can direct you to where you need to go 😊
You shouldn’t even joke around like that.
it seems to be exactly the same bow that the recurve Old Mountain Edge 62"
isn't it ??
And the "Kiowa" from the 1990's. Yes this thing has been marketed under many different names. I don't know how many different Chinese companies have been involved in producing this bow.
The string only needs reserving not replacing completely !
I've actually never done it before. Something to look into.
Mine came with a stringer but no rest.......I over-ordered my draw weight like you said so I ordered a second set of limbs Sammick Sage 35# that do not fit tight rattle around loose I think bolts are 2 long for thinner limbs maybe not good to cut ?
Get a shibuya arrow rest cartel recurve sight dx plunger and a clicker. Just make sure you get fitted for your arrows.
Not too tall, i'm like 5'5-5'6...would this bow conflict with my height? I'm sure not too much, but just wondering.
I'm 5'6" picked up this bow a few weeks ago. It's actually great, just expect a decrease in draw weight because our draw length is less.
I'm 5'7" and this bow is great. My girlfriend who is 5'4" uses it too without an issue.
@@getrecurvebow309 What size bow are you using, I am under the impression, for a recurve bow, you don’t want it to be very long…
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Re-do that serving. A set of string should last over a year with daily heavy use.
3.00 for plastic rest. 15.00 or so for a flip-away metal rest. I use metal rests
25#-60#. String isn't any good, get fast flight string!! I have 30# & 50# limbs for mine! 50# is a bit two heavy I find, wish I would have gotten the 45# ones instead!
These bows are great! Wouldn't hesitate taking a deer with it👍
I shot two deer with my Kiowa (pretty sure it was the same bow), and recovered 1. Sadly, I didn't recover the other one...
its just a copy pof the PSE Nighthawk good bow either way
Does it shoot vanes easily? I want to use Carbon arrows with vanes for durability. I have seen people put sights and d-loop wrist release to these and it virtually becomes as "accurate" as compound. Btw what rest is best for this bow?
Good video
Well u don't have a brass nock on the string that mite be the problem
Hi! I bought this bow as a begginer. What arrows do you recommend I buy? Thanks in advance😁
I like using the Tiger Archery 30 inch. Try to look for something carbon with strong reviews.
@Get Recurve Bow Hi, I am ordering one in 40 or 45lb. Please let me know if carbon arrows with plastic vanes is OK, and what spine?
Anyone know if the Samick sage limbs sold on eBay are authentic? Or is it counterfeit?
Good review. Might I suggest a nock point on your string? It will help with more consistency in your shots.
Good idea!
Should I buy it from Amazon because I've seen alot of bad reviews 🤔
If you have $300+ you could probably do better
but like someone else in the comments said this bow will do whatever an expensive bow will do. Accuracy and power.
Is that left hand hold and right hand draw model you are showing?
This is the right handed model
Can I string walk with this bow?
I got one ain't bad bow for the .money or what I paid for .mine. Take down bow we call em. I put a small stabilizer on mine. I don't use the plastic rest I use the wood rest with bear fur on it. I shoot with out sights. There's away to string abow by putting it between your legs but I would have to show you its easy. If you know what to do,,,
I upgraded the rest pretty shortly after purchasing.
Stringing a bow without a bow stringer can damage your bow unless you know what you are doing.
@@getrecurvebow309 well I know how too been stringing bows since I was young man I'm nearly 60 years old. Now,
crazy glue the shot area of the bow to harden it a little bit and protect it. That's a user error.
How to buy in Amazon
Click the link in the description to look at it on Amazon.
Get some bow string wax it will help the life of the span of the string. Your string appears to need some wax
Do you have any idea of what the bow stacks at?
I have a 31.5" draw length, how do you think it would cope.
I have a 30 inch draw. This bow
Does stack pretty significantly
At 30 inches. Decent cheap bow.
@@billbertagnoli4226 thanks for the info, I am looking for a low poundage bow 30 to 35# to ease back into shooting again.
Hey Dave ☺️ join the club. I've
Been " getting back into" archery
For several years. You are on the
Right track. Get one that pulls
Long enough without killing
Your arm, back and shoulder
@@billbertagnoli4226 The choice is very limited from what I can see at the moment.
A bow I have looked at is the 60" Mohican from Bodnik he says it's guaranteed to 32". It might be one for you to test out in future. Cheers
My Kiowa (same bow) stacked pretty good past 28". I have shot around 3 high end custom bows (Chastain:my favorite; Blacktail by Norm Johnson; Black Widow: wicked smooth and fast) and back 15 years ago they were worth every penny...none of those bows stacked, but then I don't have a 30" draw length either.
Should I be the number 50 subscriber we will see after the video
You'll love my hunting videos coming up.
3 bucks every 200 shoots ? I’m good thanks I ahoot everyday that’s a slow day so maybe 6 bucks a day that’s 180 bucks a month that terrible man so just change the thing once for a metal one
If you think the Sage is a "good-looking bow" you have never seen what a really nice trad bow looks like.
"Good-looking" is a subjective term. It's alright if you don't agree.
i agree, If you don't pay at least 12 grand for a bow or rifle, you might as well throw it in the trash, You get what you pay for, By the way, I paid over 40 grand for a JUNK Silverado and it still broke down. And yes I am being sarcastic.. This is an entry level piece of equipment, not a custom made bow. It is what it is..
I never trust a recurve bow that has a wood riser because over time they can swell & delaminate .
Like an american woman
You're talking over really long periods of time, like 15-20 years.
If you take care of your bow and keep it in a room temp dry area it can last forever.
LOL.. I have wooden and glass laminated recurve bows from the 1950s and 1960s that I still shoot..just look after your gear..😂
Bummer I was hoping for BS.
Plz
flip the image
The wooden riser isn't very durable if you're shooting with a pair of 60 lb limbs...Mine starts to crack after shooting 1500 arrows with 60lb limbs. (I also have another pair of 40 lb limbs to practice my shooting form, also shot about 1500 arrows)
And when shooting 60 lb limbs, better to use arrows heavier than 500 grains. I shot 400-grain and the limb delaminated after 600 shots (never dry fire).
My draw length is 28 inch, very standard.
As of accuracy, I can land most of the arrows within 7 rings (144 cm diameter target) at 50 meter after only 3 months of practice (with 60lb limbs, a cheap sight, a short stabilizer and a cheap plastic rest). I guess it's really good among beginner bows.
The string is fine. It can definitely last thousands of shots.
The plunger hole is quite pointless as the riser is cut only less than 5 mm pass the center.
Samick sage overall is a great bow for its price but it cannot handle 60lb draw weight very well...
Thats why it's classified as a beginer bow.
Yeah, I've found this bow to be more accurate than bows twice the price.
Since I only shoot 45/50lb I was not aware of the 60 lb draw weight issue. Good to know.
60 LB limbs are way over the top,para
@@delwigzieful Seriously, you don't need to ever go over 45-55 tops. This dude hunting bigfoot?
@@punchypizzainpizza6616 Indiana Jones looking ass
Worst recurve take down bow. No wonder it is 150 dollars.
Get a thousand dollar black widow. I bet you still would blame the bow.
@@bobbyrobbins9816 love this.
Bubba, maybe you need a few classes if you think the bow is to blame!!! 😂
Thank PM101 for that