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What's it like attempting to get employed on a superyacht? What happens when you get a job, what is the process? What happens once you join, where do you get your uniform from?
Also how can a superyacht crew employed by a billionaire have to wait 4-6 months for their salary? Especially when he's spending millions on his yacht?
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Appreciate the realness in your content, it's like a dose of authenticity
Oh darn. Imagine being fired from a job where you're being forced to work for free. Good for the smart, fair and honest crew member that had the guts to inform the owner!
I have always been lucky to have behind me a little money that if necessary I could leave a job if I don't get paid. My Mother told me when I started working to build up a three month nest egg to cover such eventualities. I only had to use it once, I wasn't paid at the end of the month, gave the Boss 1 week to sort it out he didn't so I walked. Funny story he contacted me about 6 months later begging me to re-join his company as he was losing staff and business and the reason was his poor payment record not just to staff but suppliers. Needless to say I told him NO and told him if he got his act together and paid what he owed properly and on time he might have a successful business, instead of squandering his income on himself and his Ego building toys.
Nobody should EVER work for free. Never offer yourself up to be abused like that.
I am curious in this yacht industry if you would be flagged and it would make it hard for you to get another job on a yacht again.
That beeping of the type transition has my dogs freaking the F out. lol
It has me freaking out 🤣 Incredibly loud and shrill in headphones
Ya my dog wants to jump inside my stereo to find the sound 😂
I was checking my loudspeakers if they're damaged until I realised it.😂
Please do a video on visas. Does the crew always know the destiny of a voyage? And does a crew need visas? How, what, when, by whom, etc?
Yes, crews usually know destinations although sometimes not in great specificity. Just depends on the owner and their circumstances and schedule. They might also change. Visas depend upon both your nationality, where you are going, and how long and /or what you are doing there. The ship management company will handle these. They have agents that know more than we can ever imagine about the ins and outs of a country and what is required. And how to expedite any paperwork etc.
For us not in the industry, this was very informative. Great video.
That's how they keep that billionaire moniker in front of their name.... i worked for several yacht owners in the 90's and i was forever more chasing my paychecks down while still doing my job good videos my friend
Thanks for all of the detail about working on a yacht. I hope your young viewers watch and rewatch so they know exactly what is what.
These added clips are funny
Excellent video. well edited. Nice job!
Loved this episode. Gives great insight into your world.
Best music yet, Sysman! Keep up the great work.
Have you checked out his music channel? The one vid is an hour long with smooth jazz, incredible!
The old remote force choke works everytime when changing command officers. It puts fear into the crew. As Captain Bligh said "fear is our best weapon"
from Blight to Breaking Bad, if you have to use FEAR to motivate me, you've lost my LOYALTY .,...forever.
@@user-zp7jp1vk2i Absolutely! Fear does not motivate, Fear will only Intimidate and never Inspires other(s) to make your goal also their goal. It becomes a Threat, I'm working for you because I have to, not because it's what I want. Gone is any Trust, Loyalty, Respect, Motivation towards you. People NEVER forget feeling Threatened. Ultimately, the outcome will be negative. A successful Leader/Manager knows to Encourage will Motivate and Inspire others to want to work for/with you towards successful outcomes. Happy Work Life = Happy Home Life and vice versa. In my humble opinion...
@@user-zp7jp1vk2i You underestimate my power.
Very nice video! Thanks!
My favorite episode so far, very illustrative, cool jazz as background, and i loved the movie and cartoon clips to ilustrate even more in a somewhat sarcastic way, loved it!
What an awesome video!!! I love the Crimson Tide and South Park excerpts. Crimson Tide and Hunt for Red October are 2 of my most favorite movies.
The brief case cash story 'I'm sure that was all legit' was hilarious, topped off with 'the next yacht made that look like an ideal employer' lol! Great story telling, super fun video :)
Great content and presentation. 🇦🇺 😊
I'm well beyond the age and stage where I'd be able to go to work on a yacht, but this video really gives me enough information, both plusses and minuses, that were I in a position to consider it I'd feel confident making decisions. Using your personal experiences to illustrate your points is excellent. Non dramatic, bslanced, factual. Typical eSysman ❤ and I loved both the music and especially the Star Wars clip...
Very interesting....I might like working on a yacht, what position's are there for a +70 year old? Lol
you and I would bring our life skills: huge BS filter, go in the runabout to get the beer, First Aid, advice to young ladies on what crew member to AVOID, fight dirty, be sneaky, the list is endless.
@@user-zp7jp1vk2iBahhhahaha! Once you’ve become the Silver Crested BS Bird, the “opportunities are endless!
Great episode!
A good informative video for the lucky ones that get paid but not so lucky for the ones that have to wait. If you're single with no commitments, you can afford to wait. You certainly can't spend it whilst your working.
Best episode ever….thank you.
Thank you.
Very true about the sea.
Excellent video and thanks so much for sharing your experiences with us.
Weather military or not a disciplined job experience at a young age sets you up for a lifetime of success no matter what your career ends up being. As you say you never forget your love or respect for the sea & will always look back on it with fond memories.Thanks for your honesty in this video.🙏🇨🇦👍
Great Video! Makes me miss my time in the Navy and seeing all those ports.
My boss started missing our paycheck by a week, and I knew he was going out of business so I just walked out. I ran into a former coworker a year later and he was owed 2 months of pay but the company had been resold to another company in the middle-east. GL getting that backpay.
If the yacht is operating commercially, or even just advertising for charter, the Maritime Labour Convention would apply, and the local port State control authority would detain the ship until the monies are paid.
Wow, I loved this episode .Thanks
The thumbnail and title 😂
Good show, good show.
Hi from Canada. Great site especially for us prairie land locked folk. This is absolutely your best episode. However I enjoy all of them.
Absolutely loved it, Thanks, keep up the great work
I regards to traveling time you traveled probably over half way round the world in 48 hrs. It's taken me 38 hrs to get from the west coast of Ireland to Manchester uk using public transport.
Hell in the US Army, 6 months with no pay. The only way I got paid was knowing the NCO in charge of finance for all the reserves in Europe. Instead of putting the paperwork in at our PAC for the Battalion. I put in for the extension of service when I extended at Ft Hood, left for Europe, got sent to a unit that was deployed and deployed to them shortly after that, spent almost a year with them deployed waited 4 more months, then no pay. For the next 5 months put in paperwork and nothing. Always interesting who you run into and have known before. I knew him years before and somehow, I had run into him again.
Thank you for this great video! Well done!
Nicely done,,thanks for sharing,,😊😊
What an extraordinarily well presented video!
Enjoyed ❤ really enjoyed your story about your passion
That for me was the best and informative video you have ever done. From working on Cruise Ships i now wish I had known that information when I was younger.
Very interesting! Love the short clips.....anyone that references South Park has major street cred with me...hahahahahahah
Can you do a video on largest yachts under construction 🔥🔥
WOW and LOL on travel story.... I'm ex U.S. Air Force and Flew over the world both coasts and Alaska. First earth quake was in Japan...
B a great experience for my grandson as he is turning 18😎
Is the job market such that if one employer makes life too hard (lack of pay fo rmonths etc) do people just quit and get job on another yacht? Or are those jobs scarce enough that when you get one, you keep it, even if pay/work conditions are horrible?
I took my brand new 19 ft Bayliner across the channel to Catalina many years ago. That's the last time I went out on the ocean in anything less than 300 meters.
Really GREAT video!!!
Loved this video so much! Keep them coming - absolutely fascinated by this subject matter of life aboard a ship. Today i realized this lifestyle is not for me....... aaaaaand its GONE!
Possibly the best episode yet. Really fascinating insight from someone who has been there and done it.
Some owners sound like absolute crooks, to put it mildly!
Hey up mate that was a really interesting and different video, thanks
Groovy music!
Twin Otter, great aircraft
Jaques Coistoiu önce said
Oi captain ! Rackem up!
Outstanding!
Bonus points for the background music.
Sir eSysman, I'm wondering if you can do a comparison between working with the Boss on board and when the vessel is chartered, as well as a charter only vessel
Hong Kong to UK may be 18 hours. I can't remember.
One of your best episodes to date (in my opinion) thanks
(This seems more like why I started to subscribe-before the ever present seized vessel stories became the norm
they day any employer messes with my pay is the day i walk out the door - or get a dingy..
In most employment law in Canada and the USA if you're classified as a "contractor" technically your employer has 90 days before they HAVE to pay their receipts to you, if you're an employee, pay is regular and usually every two weeks. I just like to be TOLD in advance if the corp. pays at 89 days (yes, I've had those types, even when I did an emergency call for them) then I can plan.
@@bc-guy852 biggest joint/frame outfit in Surrey, BC got a call from a known client they had an emergency on a three day holiday. Saved the day. Then I walk in at 89 days and the damn check is on the Accts. desk....for 3 months. Please don't call me, I'm busy.
Live to Sail, _Sail_ to Live.
*Thanks* for the excellent reality check, no exchange rate needed.
Just want to ask if the management company also pays for the cost of flight tickets to/from the boats? Although you mentioned that the purser gives the flight details, I did not hear if the company also paid for these tickets. Onboard larger ships when I worked, the Crewing office arranged and paid for tickets + hotels.
Jerry
I think Yotspot have taken off the feature where you can see how many are in the mix for a job 😂
If we say we watch eSysman's videos, does that provide enough qualifications to get the job ? 🙂
Curious if every employee is like a flight attendant, does one job during the day, but needs all the training on what to do in case of fire, accident, sinking. evacuation etc or whether some are just doing simple jobs and are not involved in disasters ?
(You mentioned young 19-21 years olds who get deck hand, and wondering if they need specialty training prior to applying or f they get on-the-job training for such low level jobs). (or waiters/bartenders whose work is akin to running a hotel , not a ship).
God bless you
I know someone who signed a lifetime NDA. He left after one Med season and was so put off by the arrogant and nasty owner he left the industry, but did return and now lives happily ever after on board, elsewhere. Took him 7 months to get his final pay and vacation pay-out from the previous owner only under threat of a name and shame law-suit in English courts. Yes, I know who the owner is and it is one truly awful family. Simply horrible people.
When you first get to the boat, do you say "hello" or "ahoy"?
I heard a story that when the telephone 1st happened that it was a toss-up between the 2 greetings. I prefer "ahoy" and won't change careers if hello is the norm.
John Wayne would always ask "permission to come aboard"?!!
@user-zp7jp1vk2i It's always nice when someone gives deference to a smartaleck. All the best, sir, ma'am, or other.
When I went to Fiji I enjoyed the smalll plane transfer. It is a bloody long way though.
Great video 💯 If you want people to build a boat don't ask them to collect wood. Teach them to yearn for the expanse of the sea
What is your position on yachts? I thought I heard you mention engineer but I’m not certain if that was just an example and not your title.
THIS WAS A VERY INTERESTING VIDEO THAT PUT A LIGHT ON A USUALLY DARK SUBJECT.
the text sound is very bad killed my ears
Excellent 👍👍 Thanks!
Great show. Wish I was 50 plus years younger.
WOW... I understand clearly that you're story is not about the job your currently working. ...... I cannot believe that a business owner would not care about something sooooooo important as their employees pay. More than likely a banking issue. ...But ...for 4 months...come on.... Very good story and thank you for sharing this. It's very important for some people to know that kind of information.....when there counting the days until payday.
Crew that are owed money can have the vessel arrested. Likely have to find a new job, but guaranteed to make the point.
Well you know what they say about tall people 🤣⛳
Great video🎉
Just wondering how far in advance do you know what boat you are interviewing for and if a boat has a bad reputation do they have a harder time hiring crew.
Seeing as MY owners are obscenely wealthy their management companies should hold enough money for salaries at all times, payment of salaries should fall under maritime labor laws and require set paydays and payments in the currency of the employees choice placing the cost of exchange on the owner.
Are the wages tax free. Because technically if you keep a log for all the time you spend in international water, you should not have to pay tax for those hours.
If I didnt get paid for four months, I would be taking one of the boats propellers home as a memento of my time on the boat.
how convenient. you work on a yacht owned by someone you approach, and instead of the owner geting pissed at the party who pays, they have the worker fired. yup
If they did not pay me....
That boat would have some serious problems....
If I was a billionaire yacht owner 1) I'd read my crews body language, and 2) these are the people with your life in their hands. I'd want to get their loyalty up to 100%, and that starts with no jerking around, and agreements met on time. Even billionaires can only tread cold, ocean water for only so long.
That particular owner that is still taking so long to pay his crew should be made an example of. Take him to court and sue his ass. No one no matter how rich they are should be able to get away with that. If it isn't the actual owner then sue the management company. You are messing with someone's life , credit etc. I am sure they would not like it if they didn't get paid on time.
Bro I’m waiting 4 years to get payment from ‘ my kitty
Working a season for them ! Think about that
The rich do not get rich by playing fair and paying ones bills.
I wonder what percentage of new boat staff leave as it's not what they expected, it's a tough job certainly not for everyone. !!!?
Hi there.
How could I send send you pictures for use in your channel ?
Thx
Peter
Love your videos chap but please for the love of god never use that screeching effect ever again lol, that noise effect is not pleasant coming through my soundbar
Upon 4 mos it’s likely a) it’s intentional and b) you’re unlikely to get it. I’d be gone….. Much better to own the yacht than to work on one…
Is it possible for you to talk about shipboard romances?
Didn’t a country just seize a boat because the owner wasn’t paying the crew? The managers/Owners should have to present their books to the port before docking.
You say superyachts are obliged to keep their AIS on at all times i.e. transmitting their location at all times. So, for what reason would NDA include requirement to keep the location "secret"?
The NDA includes that you aren't allowed to mention which vessel you are working on as well. Yachts often turn their AIS off in port, rich people are secretive.
If you're employed on a yacht, what employment laws apply? From which country?
Employment laws would be the flag state.
@@YachtReport I suppose those states don't have laws around when employers are suppose to pay employees
Is this guy a captain/skipper?
NO GO GOOD SERVICE GOES UNNOTICED :)
Just because the owner has pushed the responsibility over to a management company, it does not absolve the owner of the responsibility. All the employees work because of the owner and he is the person in charge. If the owner is not aware of what is happening between the management company and the crew, he cannot intervene either. The one who was fired was probably not by the owner but by the management company, because it emerged that they did not deliver their service as agreed! If I was the owner and found out that the crew didn't get paid, I would fire the management company the same day! The crew is my security when I'm on board my yacht!
Sorry, but I cant agree with your comments about hiring engineering crew. Your comments are only appropriate to a niche segment in the Yachting industry in terms of size. The hiring process in a 30m yacht is entirely different to that of a 160m yacht.
eSysman come from the Merchant Marine where the Management company sends new crew. The Captain has sod-all input. The same applies to Military forces - you get what is sent. In a very large superyacht the Engineer is very experienced and capable. In a very small superyacht he is not. Where he is not, that Captain does the hiring and firing. So you insinuation that where the Captain does the hiring is a red flag - is utter bollox. The captain might be effiing good at selecting the right crew.
Well firstly he said in the video that not all yachts are like that, just in his experience. The rest of what you said is untrue: on a large yacht the management company doesn't just send people to a yacht with the yacht having no input, that is 100% false.
That happens in the military yes, but not on yachts, not at all.
@nSuperYachts I said that Merchant Marine companies send new crew. That is where the captain has no input. I didn't indeed for it to inferred or implied that the Captain of a Superyacht has no input. Sorry for the confusion. I was a Master for 15 years. MLC2006 should have sorted out the pay issues, but that only helps to commercially registered vessels. You appear to have been unlucky with your pay. I have had crew members who have received pay a few days late but the problems have been caused by the transfer system.
No money, so do as that 🇺🇦Engineer’s did…🌊❤