WTF Happened to the Unmade Watchmen Movie?
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- Опубликовано: 25 сен 2022
- Zack Snyder’s Watchmen was relatively well-received by fans and overall was a box office success. Devoted to making a faithful adaptation of the Alan Moore/ Dave Gibbons graphic novel, the fact that Snyder’s Watchmen film got made on the scale it did is a miracle. However, several other versions of Watchmen were in the works before Snyder got involved, with several coming close to being made. In this episode of WTF Happened to this Unmade Movie, we dig into versions that almost got made involving folks such as Terry Gilliam, David Hayter (who filmed a demo reel with Ray Stevenson and Rorschach and Iain Glen as Nite Owl), Darren Aronofsky and Paul Greengrass. Suppose any of these versions had gotten made. In that case, we might have gotten someone like Paddy Considine as Rorschach, Joaquin Phoenix as Nite Owl, and possibly even Tom Cruise as Ozymandias (in which case the adaptation likely would have had little to do with Moore’s comic).
In the end, perhaps it was best that no one succeeded in getting the movie made until Snyder, with it also paving the way for the excellent HBO limited series and maybe some future Watchmen stories to come.
This episode of WTF Happened to this Unmade Movie is written by Bryan Wolford, edited by Paul Cooper and narrated by Bronwyn Kelly-Seigh.
Which version of Watchmen do you think would have been the best? Are we lucky no one succeeded until Zack Snyder got involved? Let us know in the comments.
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I actually love Zack Snyders film. It’s about as good as it can be. It takes the comic, and makes it more palatable for a mainstream audience. Well, as palatable as it could be while still being MOSTLY faithful.
I still remember seeing the trailer in the movie theaters not knowing about the graphic novel and really wanting to go see it.
Terry Gilliam felt it was unfilmable, and even asked Alan Moore how he would do it if it wasn't a comic, to which he said he wouldn't at all
Yea we watched the video lol
Why are you repeating something that’s already in the video??
Bear in mind that Alan Moore has been salty about Watchmen since DC screwed him over. Alan has been extremely successful and can do what he wants. That said if he had played the game a little more. Then he would have been massively more wealthy. It’s just that his artwork would have suffered and become more derivative. Like so many less talented people than him.
@@RobDaCajun Ive read Moore since that 1st SWAMP THING issue back in 1984. In my reading I think Moore is rather of the mind that Hollywood adaptations arent really some apotheosis or higher form of storytelling. Like a movie AINT better than a comic (or novel) . The film is often parasitic upon comix and novels and songs. Fuck Hollywood. The comic is great.
@@jefffudesco9364 I hear you. As you know Moore thought after a period of time he would get full rights to Watchmen. After he realized that DC would never relinquish the rights. He was rightly upset. All I was saying that if he had the contract writing ✍️ skills of JJ Abrahms and Bad Robot 🤖. Then he’d be massively wealthy…………. and a total sellout.
I still watch the "you're locked in here with me scene" whenever I need a hype up. Dark, yes, but gets my blood pumping.
One of my favorite lines from any movie, and I wasn't even a huge fan of the film.
Done better on screen than in the comic unquestionably.
That ultimate collectors edition is bad-ass. All the versions of the movie, motion comic, bonus features, the entire graphic novel and box it comes in is worth the money
The Zack Snyder watchman ultimate cut is my favorite super hero movie.
Fuck yeah
It's sooooooooo good
Feel like the directors cut is the better movie but love them both
Hell yes!
@@matthewmcneill5320 he was the director... LOLLLLLLL
The director's cut is my favorite comic book film, period. The scene where the original Nite Owl meets his end is the heart of the film, cutting that for the theatrical release was a crime against cinema
Great writing and narration by Bronwyn. i look forward to more of her work
Tanks for dialing back the Soundscape on this video.
Hearing about some of the other plans for what the movie could have been, I'm bloody glad it was Snyder who got to make it.
Lol Daniel Craig as Rorschach! The fella they actually got was not far off that look
I have The Ultimate DVD Set. I'd sit and watch the whole thing if I had the time again. Worth every penny.
Thanks God that Zack direct this movie
This 1986 script sounds great. I do prefer the Ultimate Cut of Watchmen over the HBO series.
I'm so pleased it was Zack Snyder that took it on in the end. It's almost 90% accurate to the source material with an incredible cast and production value. I watch the ultimate cut religiously!
Oh, Synder did a marvelous job of copying the "look" of the graphic novel, while UTTERLY missing its spirit!
Mark Kermode is right - Zack Snyder sees everything as "Rubber! Lots of Rubber! They gonna run around in rubber pants! And fight The Village People!"
Still, a very well done and loved movie!
Rorschach should have had his own series with other Watchmen making cameo’s. For me he was the best of the bunch.
I think Nite Owl is my favorite, but Rorschach is definitely a close second
Great video! Very interesting too.
Watchmen is one of my favourite superhero movies ever it's unlike any other superhero movie before or since
I actually preferred zacks ending over the tentacle in the comic.
Me too. It felt more in line with this alternative version of history.
I think it doesn't suck but is needed to do saririze the superhero comics
When an Alien menace
Attack
And all the heroes reunite agaist it
@@SubZero-hs9xcthe heroes don't unite against the alien though, they agree it's the only thing that makes sense and then they retire.
Rorschach is just awesome, he can fight Batman easily but not win but still a worthy opponent!
Watchmen is awesome! I seen Watchmen in the cinema and I own it.
one of the best lines ever: "im not stuck in here with you...your stuck in here with me!!!"
Didn't know there was a unmade film!
love the content but you guys really need to invest in better mics/actually using a sound studio for voiceovers
Very cool. I loved the graphic novel and was so excited when this came out. It was a pretty good adaptation, I thought. The bomb made sense in the context of today's world, rather than the monster, so I thought it was a good change. Actors were good choices, too. Overall, so much better than I think many of the earlier attempts would have actually been.
The only problem with the bomb ending is that the whole point of the fake alien invasion is that it was supposed to unite the entire world against a mysterious "other." When you switch it to the admittedly less silly looking bomb, and frame Doctor Manhattan, that doesn't work. Manhattan is the U.S.A.'s per superhero, as far as anyone else knows. So it's not a mysterious boogeyman that everyone can unite against, it's the U.S. government going, "Uh... we had nothing to do with this..." and hoping that everyone believes them and doesn't hold them accountable anyway. I don't think they really understood the source material. But they sure did make a neat looking movie with a great soundtrack.
@@sim4344 I too miss the alien tentacle being ending - the genius of that idea and the whole voight genetic engineering researcher side plot attached to that I imagine shaved a good few minutes and millions from the finished product - it's a shame but given 90% of the meat is there in the ultimate cut it's a worthwhile hit. I would imagine if this project was done today as a sort of stranger things episodic project without the constraints of having to be in budget, sell tickets and meet a specific movie runtime it could've been even closer to the source material.
@@SpontaneousWeasel That's the weird thing about this movie. Like I said, I don't think they really understood the source material. Except for changing the ending (in a way that looks cooler but makes no sense story-wise) the movie is almost slavishly faithful to the source material, with things mostly being cut intead of changed. But for all that, I think Snyder has a 13 year old's understanding of the source material. He's not really interested in the satire or deconstruction, he just thinks Rorschach is badass. Everything is AWESOME and cinematic and slow-mo and completely misses the point. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the movie as kind of a weird companion piece to the comic. But my enjoyment has a big asterisk next to it.
@@sim4344 Wow. You sound like a pretentious 13 year old prick.
That’s an interesting twist. I like it
….THE *UNMADE* WATCHMEN?!?
Okay, now you have my personal & undivided attention. Educate me.
We could have had a film directed by Snake! SNAAAAAAAKE!
Ah beat me by 47 minutes! Haha
I don't care too much for Zack Snyder but I love this film.
Still Snyder´s best film, and one of only three (Sucker Punch and 300 being the others) from his catalogue that reward (or warrant) repeat viewing.
I still want to see a more faithful miniseries
I genuinely think the only way to do it is a miniseries that just faithfully adapts the comic and is made by someone who actually understands the material.
Alan Moore Knows The Score
CAN YOU DIG IT?
Snyder is cool and all, but I really want to see Hayder's version also.
Imagine Solid Snake's directorial debut being the adaptation of one of the most popular comics.
I think the adaptation that Watchmen needs is an animated one. The likes of Invincible and countless stellar anime have shown us how to do it. I'd like Jackie Earle Haley and Jaryd Heidrick to reprise the roles
Animated Watchmen has been done already!
ruclips.net/video/YDDHHrt6l4w/видео.html
If you can visualize it, YOU CAN FILM IT!!!
It sucks we most likely won't be getting a season 2 of the show.
Agreed
Man if only we lived in an alternate timeline where this movie was made
The first adaptation attempt kinda sounds like dc’s doomsday clock.
the ultimate cut was weird to watch with the cuts to the anime, would of been better without that, they should have put the anime as a post credits story
The Director's Cut is all the added scenes but the animated sequence.
@@Dohsoda dope
Watchmen has the greatest opening scene of any film.
I love Alan Moore but I doubt he would get along with me. I like the movie adaptations so it would probably put us at odds.
I'm glad this movie never happened. I'm not sure any other timelines end in the HBO series, and that's simply the finest television ever made
The HBO show was excellent, a really great follow up to the graphic novel.
Watchmen was as good as it could ever be.
Why the dig from Snyder on Gilliam?
The Gilliam movie seemed interesting of it was his own thing
Not a watchmen movie
It's one of my fav "superhero" movies
Really like Gilliam but he would have been the worst influence on Watchmen. People have got to feel for Hayter, such a sport, while getting rejected on so many projects.
Thank God for Zack Snyder. All these other versions sound ridiculous.
This movie was worth it
A comic book that criticized the glorification of superhero violence, adapted to a movie that glorifies superhero violence. Zack Snyder once again doesn't understand the source material.
Wonder why youse didn't just put Schwarzenegger's face from Batman as opposed to... whatever that was @ 3:33
Robin Williams would have made a GREAT Rorschach!
And this would have introduced the Multiverse or DC Metaverse 1st... damn smh
This wouldve been a HIT
Why does Rorschach's mask change when he speaks ?
It is a special material with (I think) fluid in the middle. It is either the fluid moving or the light reflecting off of it.
Williams would have been an interesting Comedian
What happened to the other narrator? 🧐
Well we got an amazing Zack Snyder Movie, so I am good 😉
Iain Glen would have been great as Night Owl.
Yeah, may be even better than they guy they used.
Instead of conditioning it into one movie. Maybe they should have gone for a trilogy?
Say what you want about Zack Snyder currently, but his version of watchmen is fantastic
Here’s what I’ll say: the guy knows his stuff!
The movie is perfect its my favorite from Snyder.
Snyder may be sloppy with BvS or the Man of Steel. But the JL(Snyders’Cut) and Watchmen he was Excelsior!!!
Man of steel is great
I like all his work, apart from sucker punch. Just can not get into that.
"Zack Snyder said he was making WATCHMEN to 'protect it from the Terry Gilliams of the world'(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)".
Who the fuck was supposed to protect it from Zack Snyder and his impressively undeserved self-regard?
Well thank god that never happened
The original script that Gilliam had written was going to involve Dr. Manhattan going back in time to prevent the accident that turned him into a superhero in the first place.
roorshack needs his own standalone detective type movie
Ive read Moore since 2000AD in 1980 and that 1st SWAMP THING issue back in 1984. In my reading I think Moore is rather of the mind that Hollywood adaptations arent really some apotheosis or higher form of storytelling. Like a movie AINT better than a comic (or novel) . The film is often parasitic upon comix and novels and songs. Fuck Hollywood. The comic is great.
It was UN(not) MADE(made)x 🌚🌚
It never got made
Fiest one is one of the best movies ever. Show looks pretty cheap.
The first movie was too long and dark.
I like the Sam Hamm's version
This movie was wanted for fans of comics/graphic novels. They stuck real close to the source. If people didnt like it , well it wasn't made for you. I really liked it. Moore always hates his interpretations, but they are sold because they make a great base. Honestly it all comes down to confidence from the whole crew to make it resonate what it needs to be. You've been given the cheat sheet to fantastic material like a million other comics. I hate when they dont understand it and mess it up. Look at how many adaptions of our comics are making mainstream nowadays. I think big movie is lazy but also brilliant cause as fans of this source material, we always wanted it. Lazy because they cant produce new because look at what they have for reference. It's only taken tis long to realize the potential of all this that had been done on paper. Now everything is getting scooped up and put to film. I just hope they are more careful. We dont, and the creators dont want to see them fail making it to the eyes of the layman that was never in this world of entertainment. My advice is to stick with getting the rights still from smaller independent stuff, and maybe take a break from the major hero shit. Enough remakes. Hence, why is the boys popular well it was a great series for one. Like watchman. It was tired of the tropes of too mainstream characters so, so guess what we kill them in an edgier satire. I think that's how most people are feeling. Feel the pulse of the audience. Dont oversaturate the newbies. They dont know what truly lies on shelfs in their local stores. You've started somethin. Now let it simmer. Excelsior my friends.
Watchmen is outstanding. Zack Snyder is a genius and his movies are great. #restorethesnyderverse
6'3" 235 pound monster Ray Stevenson, of Rome and Punisher Warzone, as Rorshach. A small and unassuming middle aged ginger. Denzel Washington or Arnold Schwarzenegger as Dr Manhattan?
Hollywood people are genuinely clueless as seen by this and 99% of all modern films and TV shows.
I wont even touch hack Zach Sneider critizing the genius that is Terry Gillian, quite possibly the best and by far most creative director and writer of the 20th century
I think I’m in the minority on this but I personally didn’t get out of watchmen what many people do. It’s not a terrible comic by any means but it’s nothing fantastic in my opinion either, it’s merely ok.
Literature
yo I almost unsubscribed my boy Zack made that s*** come to life a masterpiece
We need a Watchmen Reboot movie & now with Flash starting the multiverse we can have different versions of each other.
In the darkest timeline Zack Snyders masterpiece is replaced by a cringe worthy Robin Williams/Schwarzenegger box office flop from the early nineties
Snyder’s Watchmen is one of the best comic book movies in history. It not only replicates the original, but improves on it.
Snyders film is a decent movie but its a pretty bad Watchmen. It gets all the visuals but none of the nuance from the book that's important. Also the bomb ending doesn't work. If a bunch of explosions went off around the world that close ro nuclear war that would probably be enough cause for the nukes to launch. The squid is accompanied by a psychic attack that convinces enough people that aliens could invade at any moment and that brings about world peace. Makes way more sense.
Zack snyder dont understand superhero comics. Period
I'm sorry but wow the watchman was such crap. The movie was a miserable slog and it just wouldn't end
I know, I know it sounds pretentious but…no squid=no deux machina = you didn’t get Watchmen. You want more Watchmen? Sorry, you didn’t get Watchmen. Leave the da,n thing alone.
disagree with the whole video.
Get a better narrator..
She sounds terrible .
A spoiler warning would be much appreciated 😑, I watched the watchman movie more time then I can remember but this video is just spoiling the movie such a lame way to people who never watched it, and anyone watch this video will think the movie is as lame as this video spoil the entire plot in first 2 minutes
Spoiler! Crying spoilers for a movie you have seen is childish, spoiler!
@@luciferfernandez7094 u dmub ass read what I said, its a spoiler for people who didn't watched it, go to something u toxic asshole
People had more than a decade to watch it.
Crying about what if's