Actually, doing thorough experiments, I discovered that cauliflowers don't appear because the paper is not wet enough, but because the consistency (pigment to water ratio) on paper is thicker than the paint we add. If you have a very thin (tea like) wash, you can do whatever you want, even when it dries (well, except going with an even more diluted paint). On the other hand, if you have a thick wash (lots of pigment), you will get cauliflowers if you come with a tea of coffee like mixture, even if the paper shines a lot. Regarding cauliflowers or more generally pigment diffusion, timing is not that important, but pigment consistency (paper vs brush) is key: always paint thick on thin, that's the secret 😉
I recommend to try another wet-in-wet technique many Russian painters use. You need a polyester board and wet the paper from the back and front. Because of the fact that the paper stays wet longer you can much more manage the paint (ideally tube paint) and you can very easily lift paint where it is too strong or you want to have whites, best is cotton rag min. 300g/m2. As the paper is "glued" to the polyester board by water, it does not buckle, another great advantage!
@@LironYan I follow the work of Joëlle Fagot, a French watercolour artist, she mostly uses this technique. It's quite comfortable because it provides for more time, time, time ;-) I try to give the link hier : ruclips.net/channel/UCqo_N3wBwYlSQFqjL0eNJeQfeatured Les aquarelle de Joelle de Normandie.
I tried this, but because it dried soo slowly I found it frustrating, I ended up waiting a long time between the stages and pretty much doing nothing. And I even made some mistakes because the paper was always wetter than I would have liked. So I think it is about what you are used to and expect, and also what your subject matter is. Maybe if I am planning a large detailed painting I would consider this as one "solution" for how I will paint it
Even your "doodles" look more like art than when I'm trying to make art 😂😂 You are the first person that made me understand what is going on with wetness and paint (out of dozens I am following and have watched). Everyone else just says "you wet your paper, you do this and that bla bla" and then you wonder why everything sucks on your own paper 🙄 Thank you!
I've heard it called water control but you explained it more clearly to me, re. water vs paint control. I often go straight from the pigment well to the painting especially if I am not mixing colors, but now I see using the palette helps to judge how much water/movement is within the brush as well. Brilliant Liron
Yes matching the wetness of the psint to the wetness of the paper takes a bit of practice. One can always wait to dry fully and rewet the area but you can't really take back the blooms. Unless of course you want blooms which I sometimes do! Thanks Liron.😊👍
Haha indeed! (: And I will add that the next layer will always feel a bit different in terms of pre-wetting the paper. It’s definitely possible, but the paper will receive the next layer a little differently so it takes more getting used to
This lesson was so helpful Liron...learning what to do at different stages as the paint dries. You have a wonderful teaching style and I'm learning so much from your videos. Thank you!! 😊
I was struggling with wet on wet but your demonstration made it very clear. Not just seeing how the wetness looks on the paper, but to understand how the paints blend and react in the correct amount of water. Thank you for that.
Thanks for this - love the detail. Wet in wet is more tricky than a lot of tutorials would have you believe. And trying to balance the amount of water on paper, brush and in paint mixes is complicated - especially when you also factor in the drying time. Practice, practice, practice.
Great and clear tutorial Liron on one of the most challenging aspects of watercolor. Love how you make the process of painting and drying so visual. Helps a lot! Thanks so much.
I would love to see how to fix a cauliflower. Also when there is a hard edge next to a wash, and I don’t want it, what’s the best way to fade the hard edge without making a light spot in the wash? Not sure I’m being clear🤷♀️ Actually a tutorial on fixing common mistakes would be awesome! Thank you for your videos! You are a ray of sunshine in these sad days in the US.
Great idea Lisa! Thank you 😊🙏🏼 I’ll definitely do that (: I have shown a bit of what you refer to (regarding softening a dry edge) here - ruclips.net/video/KVFWeGRUmf4/видео.html But I should do a full video on fixing mistakes (:
@@LironYan thanks 🙏🏼 Blending wet on wet scare me a lot …. I have to keep Practice practice practice. how to keep the paper shinning when painting on 1 piece of one entire image that is 9x12 inches or 17x 22 centimeters? 🥴🥴🥴
@@JosefinaH33 I suppose you already found out, but you can always wet a piece of your figure/paper, apply the paint letting a margin without any paint and then re wet the remaining pieces and painting then. you leave the margin with no paint until you end the whole figure, always fusing the water only margin with your new wash... I hope it makes sense. I live in a city with low humidity and that's the only way I found to deal with the paper drying on me 😅
I actually cried during my last watercolor class, because my wet and wet was such a mess. I couldn't fix it no matter what, even after three tries. I specifically went on RUclips to see how you handle it and I am willing to give this another try with much more success. Thank you so much.
Thank you. I came upon this video by pure chance. Makes me want to paint. I'm afraid I've forgotten so much after many years. But you have lit the flame. So thank you dear friend. Marcia in Modesto
You could not have been clearer. Thank you for making the process understandable, able to reproduce, and showing how to avoid mistakes. I look forward to watching more of your videos.
Thanks Liron very instructive. More times than not I have the wet on wet the way I want and I need to washout to add a reflection or bring the light. At what point in the process can that be accomplished and not create undesired effects
A really useful video lirón, thank you. As you say, us beginners struggle very much with this. I’m going to rewatch this a few times for it to really sink into my head!!
Ok, I tried your suggestions in this video, and it worked great! Controlling the watercolor has been a problem for me. This video is so good, as this is an important concept to know. Thx for the thorough, clear explanation.
This was so helpful. I live in the Arizona desert and find wet on wet a challenge because it dries so quickly. I’m a beginner so I’m hoping as I learn more and get quicker with my strokes, I’ll have better luck with this technique. Thanks for the lesson.
It's my pleasure, thank you for watching 😊🙏🏼 For this kind of climate, I would recommend generally working much wetter, and in more washes (because the washes are wetter = lighter, you may need more washes).
LIGHTBULB MOMENT! Haha ty so much. Idk if I was taught this or my brain thought it made sense but…when my paper started to dry & I wanted to blend more I added watery paint because bringing the paper back to wet seemed to make sense. This helped me SO MUCH. I have never seen it explained to add thicker paint & why.
I've just found your channel and I'm so glad I did. Thank you for being so generous with your knowledge. I'm new to watercolour so your channel will be very helpful.
Thank you 😁 I like to fully break down technique at its very basic / "scientific" core. That way I mostly avoid forcing the "how or when to use it" part, and avoid venturing into any style / taste related territory.
So say your shape has dried.. now you want to come back. Say you wanted to do another glaze.. not wet on dry. You wet the area again, and then can you start with the tea intensity or do you have to continue with the darkest dark you put on in the last session before it dried? Thank you so much Liron.. this was great.
It’s also so dependent on the paint too. There is this yellow that I use (something that starts Nick? ) that guaranteed, no matter how thick or thin my paint to water ratio is, the yellow will always overtake and push apart other colors.
Thanks for teach, I like use watercolor coz can taste with smooth gradient color, but sometimes getting stuck with make a layer (example for coloring 🌺)
Really nice demo Liron, just wanted to add that it also depends on the quality and type of the paper and even the brand of the paints. Right? Also some colours spread more and some less, depending on the ingredients. It takes a lot of experimentation, which is one of the most fun parts of painting with watercolour. Thanx for your videos, looking forward for your next one!
Thank you 😊🙏🏼 And you are indeed correct! The paper and paints will also have an effect on drying times, as well as the movement patterns of paint within wet areas (:
Thank you for showing how the sheen changes. There is very little on wet into wet on YTube. A meticulous book on wet into wet is Karpinska's book "Wet into Wet Watercolor Painting."
Thanks for the video. I would love to see a video teaching wet on wet with a lot of colors (like in a flower) but avoid creating hard lines. I always have to at the end come with a brush to smooth these unwanted hard lines. If there is a way to avoid them to be created I would love to learn how to. Thanks
Actually, doing thorough experiments, I discovered that cauliflowers don't appear because the paper is not wet enough, but because the consistency (pigment to water ratio) on paper is thicker than the paint we add. If you have a very thin (tea like) wash, you can do whatever you want, even when it dries (well, except going with an even more diluted paint). On the other hand, if you have a thick wash (lots of pigment), you will get cauliflowers if you come with a tea of coffee like mixture, even if the paper shines a lot. Regarding cauliflowers or more generally pigment diffusion, timing is not that important, but pigment consistency (paper vs brush) is key: always paint thick on thin, that's the secret 😉
Now thats some excellent observation. Thank you
It’s kinda like fat over lean for oils. Different reasons but similar techniques in practice.
Woah, that makes so much sense
Sounds right.
Thank youuu 🙏
I recommend to try another wet-in-wet technique many Russian painters use. You need a polyester board and wet the paper from the back and front. Because of the fact that the paper stays wet longer you can much more manage the paint (ideally tube paint) and you can very easily lift paint where it is too strong or you want to have whites, best is cotton rag min. 300g/m2. As the paper is "glued" to the polyester board by water, it does not buckle, another great advantage!
Great idea, and I have seen it in action! A very interesting technique that makes for a great and entertaining demo (: may try in the future
@@LironYan I follow the work of Joëlle Fagot, a French watercolour artist, she mostly uses this technique. It's quite comfortable because it provides for more time, time, time ;-) I try to give the link hier : ruclips.net/channel/UCqo_N3wBwYlSQFqjL0eNJeQfeatured
Les aquarelle de Joelle de Normandie.
sounds crazy and interesting at the same time
I tried this, but because it dried soo slowly I found it frustrating, I ended up waiting a long time between the stages and pretty much doing nothing. And I even made some mistakes because the paper was always wetter than I would have liked. So I think it is about what you are used to and expect, and also what your subject matter is. Maybe if I am planning a large detailed painting I would consider this as one "solution" for how I will paint it
@@ryanoconnor7957 Or consider using a dryer?
Even your "doodles" look more like art than when I'm trying to make art 😂😂 You are the first person that made me understand what is going on with wetness and paint (out of dozens I am following and have watched). Everyone else just says "you wet your paper, you do this and that bla bla" and then you wonder why everything sucks on your own paper 🙄 Thank you!
Agree!
Facts!
I've heard it called water control but you explained it more clearly to me, re. water vs paint control. I often go straight from the pigment well to the painting especially if I am not mixing colors, but now I see using the palette helps to judge how much water/movement is within the brush as well. Brilliant Liron
I can relate to your "almost clean water"...😉
Haha 😂
Thank you, The photography was especially well done for us to see the sheen, and of course, the lesson was excellent!
I learned more in this video than many others I’ve seen.... thank you so much!!!!
Yes matching the wetness of the psint to the wetness of the paper takes a bit of practice. One can always wait to dry fully and rewet the area but you can't really take back the blooms. Unless of course you want blooms which I sometimes do! Thanks Liron.😊👍
Haha indeed! (:
And I will add that the next layer will always feel a bit different in terms of pre-wetting the paper. It’s definitely possible, but the paper will receive the next layer a little differently so it takes more getting used to
I LOVE cauliflowers - I'm intentional about creating them.
Thank you. I never had anyone explain about adding thicker paint so it doesn’t cauliflower and move the paint that is underneath.
This lesson was so helpful Liron...learning what to do at different stages as the paint dries. You have a wonderful teaching style and I'm learning so much from your videos. Thank you!! 😊
Great tip to check the movement of the paint in your tray to gauge the right consistency before applying to the water!
Finally, someone made it clear!!! Thank you - it was very useful. I can't wait for your next tutorials.
Haha so happy to to hear 😁🙏🏼 Thank you!
I was struggling with wet on wet but your demonstration made it very clear. Not just seeing how the wetness looks on the paper, but to understand how the paints blend and react in the correct amount of water. Thank you for that.
This was the best water to paint explanation for wet and wet I’ve ever heard. Thanks. Very helpful.
Thanks for this - love the detail. Wet in wet is more tricky than a lot of tutorials would have you believe. And trying to balance the amount of water on paper, brush and in paint mixes is complicated - especially when you also factor in the drying time. Practice, practice, practice.
Yes (: It’s just like crawling, then walking - and finally running. Takes a but to make it all intuitive.
But once it is, painting becomes a joy 😁
Love Liron......he knows exactly what we can struggled with.
😉
Finally!!! Yay!
Thanks so much for explaining away a great mystery.
Excellent demonstration.
I’m off to see the sheen.
Great and clear tutorial Liron on one of the most challenging aspects of watercolor. Love how you make the process of painting and drying so visual. Helps a lot! Thanks so much.
Very clear-- not only observing the paper sheen but also how fluid the pain mixture appears on the palette.
This is, without a doubt, the most helpful and informative watercolor video i've ever seen. Thank you SO much!!!!
Thank you 😁😁
I would love to see how to fix a cauliflower. Also when there is a hard edge next to a wash, and I don’t want it, what’s the best way to fade the hard edge without making a light spot in the wash? Not sure I’m being clear🤷♀️ Actually a tutorial on fixing common mistakes would be awesome! Thank you for your videos! You are a ray of sunshine in these sad days in the US.
Great idea Lisa! Thank you 😊🙏🏼 I’ll definitely do that (:
I have shown a bit of what you refer to (regarding softening a dry edge) here - ruclips.net/video/KVFWeGRUmf4/видео.html
But I should do a full video on fixing mistakes (:
@@LironYan thanks 🙏🏼 Blending wet on wet scare me a lot …. I have to keep Practice practice practice. how to keep the paper shinning when painting on 1 piece of one entire image that is 9x12 inches or 17x 22 centimeters? 🥴🥴🥴
@@JosefinaH33 I suppose you already found out, but you can always wet a piece of your figure/paper, apply the paint letting a margin without any paint and then re wet the remaining pieces and painting then. you leave the margin with no paint until you end the whole figure, always fusing the water only margin with your new wash... I hope it makes sense. I live in a city with low humidity and that's the only way I found to deal with the paper drying on me 😅
I actually cried during my last watercolor class, because my wet and wet was such a mess. I couldn't fix it no matter what, even after three tries. I specifically went on RUclips to see how you handle it and I am willing to give this another try with much more success. Thank you so much.
Wow! I learned a lot from your video! Thank you! I've really been struggling with wet in wet!
So happy to hear it was helpful 😊🙏🏼
Thank you. I came upon this video by pure chance. Makes me want to paint. I'm afraid I've forgotten so much after many years. But you have lit the flame. So thank you dear friend. Marcia in Modesto
Thank you, Liron. This is pretty complicated and technical. Your video helps. Seeing the shine is the key.
Thank you, best explanation I've seen. Now to experiment 😀
Thank you so much! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Thanks!
Thank you so much for your support, means the world to me 🙏🏼❤️😊
I’d like to see a full painting - using these techniques
You could not have been clearer. Thank you for making the process understandable, able to reproduce, and showing how to avoid mistakes. I look forward to watching more of your videos.
I just love how you explain thing precisely I must say you love your work so much . keep posting such videos, these are very effective to me.
Thank you ☺️🙏🏼 Will do my best
Thanks Liron very instructive. More times than not I have the wet on wet the way I want and I need to washout to add a reflection or bring the light. At what point in the process can that be accomplished and not create undesired effects
Thankyou so much for this excellent tutorial. Now I understand...I think!
I think paying attention to the wetness of a wash and being able to manipulate it at different stages is the most important technique in watercolor.
Best teaching methods EVER !!
Thank you so much 😊🙏🏼
A really useful video lirón, thank you. As you say, us beginners struggle very much with this. I’m going to rewatch this a few times for it to really sink into my head!!
So glad to see you continuing to do this. Always so helpful, Liron! Thanks
It's one of the most useful lessons I've seen! Thanks so much!
I very much enjoy your tutorials and find this wet in wet lessons timely as I am finding some of these very issues in my work. Thank you!
Ok, I tried your suggestions in this video, and it worked great! Controlling the watercolor has been a problem for me. This video is so good, as this is an important concept to know. Thx for the thorough, clear explanation.
AMAZING!!!Thank you Liron👏
Awesome demonstration! That was a really good way to explain the “wet on wet” technique! I can’t wait to try it!
Thank you ☺️ This really helped me when I FINALLY figured it out (took way too long 😂)
Studied video. It gives motivation to paint in watercolour. Thanks a lot.
Then my job is done 😁🙏🏼 Thank you
This was so helpful. I live in the Arizona desert and find wet on wet a challenge because it dries so quickly. I’m a beginner so I’m hoping as I learn more and get quicker with my strokes, I’ll have better luck with this technique. Thanks for the lesson.
It's my pleasure, thank you for watching 😊🙏🏼 For this kind of climate, I would recommend generally working much wetter, and in more washes (because the washes are wetter = lighter, you may need more washes).
I highly enjoy your tips. They're simple yet enough details to understand without being overwhelming. 😁
Thank you for the demo. I now understand better how my paint is interacting with the paper
This is quite counterintuitive - I always assumed cauliflowers were caused by the paper being too wet! Thanks!
They can be created in a multitude of ways actually! (:
But mainly it's indeed when introducing water to "too dry" paint.
Thank you for watching 🙏😊
Looking to level up my painting this year, very helpful video!
Thank you ♥
Have a wonderful 2024 (:
LIGHTBULB MOMENT! Haha ty so much. Idk if I was taught this or my brain thought it made sense but…when my paper started to dry & I wanted to blend more I added watery paint because bringing the paper back to wet seemed to make sense. This helped me SO MUCH. I have never seen it explained to add thicker paint & why.
Excellent demo!
Experimenting with this is a great way for me to use up all those mixes I have in my palettes and in individual little dishes!
Indeed! That's how I like to use these leftovers (:
This is almost as good a tip as was the instruction in the video! Which was super helpful! 😂
Great explanation Liron. So simple and yet fundamental to good technique. I am going to hold this in my mind every time I pick up a brush. Thank you.
Thank you James, very happy this helps 😁 Another intuitive skill to the huge pile that’s a part of learning watercolor
I've just found your channel and I'm so glad I did. Thank you for being so generous with your knowledge. I'm new to watercolour so your channel will be very helpful.
Thanks for reviewing this again in detail! Addresses what my concerns have been. Wonderful!
Perfect, so happy I could help! 😊🙏🏼
Great information and great points. Thank you for sharing.
Very helpful info. Thx Liron!
Excellent explanation!
Top explanaition thank you very much for sharing sincerely José
Ah ha moment! Thank you for clear this up. You are awesome.
Very good! Your way of teaching is unique in that it's almost a science lesson. It's what I need at this stage.
Thank you 😁
I like to fully break down technique at its very basic / "scientific" core.
That way I mostly avoid forcing the "how or when to use it" part, and avoid venturing into any style / taste related territory.
Thanks for these helpful tips. Great video.
This really helped me and I have painted with Watercolor for years! Thank you Lion!
Awesome! Very happy to hear 😊🙏🏼
Thank you for watching Linda!
Very clear demo! Thanks!
I’m so glad I found you! Excellent!
I loved this demonstration, so useful, thank you!!!
Very informative and well taught, I not only learnt I understood. Well done and thankyou
So say your shape has dried.. now you want to come back. Say you wanted to do another glaze.. not wet on dry. You wet the area again, and then can you start with the tea intensity or do you have to continue with the darkest dark you put on in the last session before it dried? Thank you so much Liron.. this was great.
Thank you Liron. This is very helpful!
It’s also so dependent on the paint too. There is this yellow that I use (something that starts Nick? ) that guaranteed, no matter how thick or thin my paint to water ratio is, the yellow will always overtake and push apart other colors.
Wonderful descriptive instruction
So happy to hear, thank you 😊🙏🏼
Love your explanations. Thank you.😊
It was so good thanks a lot liron 👍🏽
Thanks for teach, I like use watercolor coz can taste with smooth gradient color, but sometimes getting stuck with make a layer (example for coloring 🌺)
This was great! Filmed so well. Taught well also! TY!
Pure gold!
Thank you so much 😁🙏🏼
Great stuff, Liron! Thank you!
Awesome video for a beginner thank you!
Thank you very much , very user video🙏
This is a great lesson. Thanks Liron! 🙂👍
Really nice demo Liron, just wanted to add that it also depends on the quality and type of the paper and even the brand of the paints. Right? Also some colours spread more and some less, depending on the ingredients. It takes a lot of experimentation, which is one of the most fun parts of painting with watercolour. Thanx for your videos, looking forward for your next one!
Thank you 😊🙏🏼 And you are indeed correct! The paper and paints will also have an effect on drying times, as well as the movement patterns of paint within wet areas (:
@@LironYan thank you very much!
awesome teacher!!!
Super helpful. This explains a lot of the muddy cauliflower messes I’m getting.
Thank you. I have always wanted to paint and this was informative.
Helpful. Thanks, Liron.
Thank you Robert! (:
Super instruction! Thank you!❤
Thank you for showing how the sheen changes. There is very little on wet into wet on YTube. A meticulous book on wet into wet is Karpinska's book "Wet into Wet Watercolor Painting."
Great suggestion! 😊🙏🏼
I have been struggling with this for a long time. Thank you for explaining this. Finally!😄
😁🙏🏼🙏🏼
Thanks for the video. I would love to see a video teaching wet on wet with a lot of colors (like in a flower) but avoid creating hard lines. I always have to at the end come with a brush to smooth these unwanted hard lines. If there is a way to avoid them to be created I would love to learn how to. Thanks
Another great video! Do you have a video on different types of brushes and which types to recommend for different purposes? Thanks.
I have an old one so a bit outdated haha, I should probably film a new one soon! (:
Great demonstration! I so needed this. Short and clear. Thank you!
Absolutely beautiful 😊
This was very helpful. Thanks!
Great food for thought .... many thanks!
Thank you so much 🙏😊
As always, amazing! Very good content and kwonledge sharing! Thanks! 👍😁
Thank you so much Sandra! 😊🙏🏼
Thanks a lot for sharing this
Liron, this has been super helpful!
Thank you for this tip!!!
You got it 😁
Excellent video and information
Thank you that was so helpful!
Maybe good to see how this works in doing a full painting, e.g. a portrait, as I struggle with that sometimes.
Will do! Will try and show more of the sheen in one of the upcoming demos (: