Pretty sure Medhi over at ElectroBoom would love to come see it. Oh, you mentioned him later in the video. Didn't know he helped you with it. Must've missed that video.
I would definitely secure that cable... You never want a 230v live cable flying loosely around... Imagine tripping over the wire and getting electrocuted while hitting the ground because you ripped the cable off
@@Mattiaskrantz At least until it catches on fire that is? 😅 (But my electrician advice is to add a strain relief to the cable so you don't accidentally trip on it and pull the live wires out. And I would buy a safety isolating transformer and plug it into that, then you won't get shocked as easily)
-A piano typewriter combination -A piano that hits rubber chickens, bonus points if you somehow tune the chickens -A piano that locks the key in place so you can only play each key once until you reset it all -A LED piano where each note lights up a different light inside the piano
Considering you've already made two elemental pianos (water and fire), may I suggest you complete the 4 elements with wind and earth pianos? The wind piano could be made of pull flutes or something, and you could replace the hammers for rocks for the earth one. Like a flintstones piano
I wanna make an airgun or leaf blower piano that just forcefully blow on the strings then put piano pickups under strings. It’s such a bad idea haha because it so inneffective. But would be fun
@@Teh_Random_Canadian Dealers are more likely to be clean because they know that their product is filled with hyper lethal trash they can barely comprehend. That being said, you always have the one dumbass somewhere.
I don’t think I can resist commenting. The capacity of this piano to surprise people is electrifying. They were just like, “Ohm my god, what did you build?” What is so shocking is that even after knowing, they’re still amped to help you, and not bolting out of the door! … I’ll see myself out.
I love how all of Sweden is aware of him, and not a single electrician is willing to come XD props to the one electrician for being willing to fly out there for our entertainment.
Having worked both as an electrician and an electrical engineer, I'm not surprised by their reactions. Electricians tend to be a LOT more cautious around electricity and electrical engineers tend to be rather casual about it. I LOVE this series and am excited to see what's next for the electrical piano.
I've not worked with, but I know people of both professions and all the electricians I know are very safety concerned. But that is kind of their job. Same with the engineer, his job is to see the possibilities.
@@Mattiaskrantz You've escalated with every build. The electric one was way beyond what I thought would be your ultimate one. You're telling me you got something worse in store? I have to see it!
The reason is simple. Engineers engineer stuff most of the time … the electricians are in the field and work with it and likely have seen how quick things go south.
i really like how this time you didn’t “prank” the people you called over (given that this is a far more dangerous piano than the E one for example. that one can only harm one’s ears and heart lol), and they were both genuinely interested and curious about it. i wonder if it ever came to something? did they figure out a way to make it safer? will you continue working on it or is it a bit of a lost cause?
The first guy already mentioned how to make it safe: insulate it, but then again you want openness for letting the sound emerge properly from the piano. A middle ground could be: insulating anything directed at the player and make a spark box of sorts around the hammer section so the sparks would land on places that will never catch fire. Also regarding the glowing resistors, a different setup might be required to resolve that one.
The proper "electrician" for this piano is a high voltage electrical engineer, the same type that works / engineers high tension power lines and the switches for them. They deal with contacts that have to survive high voltage loads and switching on and off and will give you the best advice, but even they will have to think outside the box, because the gear they usually use is WAY too big to fit in that piano! As for bad ideas, sorry but in this genre, you have one upped me all the time so far, still I love seeing where you are coming from and where you are heading Mattias!
I'm an Electrictronics technician, and I really couldn't think of many more ways to make it safer, but there's something really simple that could make it a little bit safer: About that power cord that could be pulled out or maybe it could come off if someone tripped on it, you can make a knot on it from the inside, so if someone pulls it, it gets locked on the knot, and doesn't come out 👍👍
I know one way to help make it safer is disconnect it from the power supply, wrap the whole thing up in about ten layers of plastic sheeting, dig a giant hole in a field somewhere and burry the piano
@@Mattiaskrantz You should find an actual engineer (who does large structural stuff) to look at the piano and then act like he's a colleague and you just want a peer review done
Would be really cool if it had a foot switch to charge the capacitors so they weren't charged at all times. Like you could play melody then hit the switch to have sparks on a chord or something
We had this when I went to Germany to the pro pianist. We played firework by Katy perry and then during the chorus i Started the piano with pedal. It was epic
You can put a non-conduct varnish on the wood to avoid fire by sparks. Also, you can use a more thickness cable to the drain part (conected to strings).
Theory: Mattias isn't making pianos for the sake of making pianos. He's trying to set up a home defense by ensuring that absolutely NOBODY will want to go to his house and review his pianos. I think he's pretty close.
Electrician with industrial controls experience here. Have some ways you could make this much better / safer, however you'd basically have to start the build over to implement some of these ideas. 1) using the bare metal of electrified hammers and your piano strings in order to directly run the power circuit is actually, properly insane. It would be a far better solution to mount a small bracket that holds your conductor on the side / top / etc of your hammers which would make a connection with a 2nd bracket to the side of / behind the piano strings at the same time as the hammer lands. Using pieces of flexible metal that can slide up against eachother as the hammer moves forward / backward would be ideal, and these two changes would help keep your piano's sound much more normal and eliminate wear. It's also worth noting that the far more obvious (but admittedly far less fun) solution to this would have been just putting a low-pressure push button below each of your piano keys that completes the circuit when you hit the key. But again, way less fun. 2) Relays fired with low voltage. Right now it seems like you're running your circuit's load directly through the circuit connection. This is bad for *many* reasons. What you could do is have a power supply that produces a low voltage like 12v hooked up inside your piano which would be used for separate, "controls" circuitry. This 12v is what you would actually be running through the wires on your piano hammers. From there, the completed circuit would fire the coil of a relay which would then separately connect the higher voltage power to the capacitor in a MUCH safer manner. This plan would also massively reduce or eliminate the electrical arcs thrown around near (or at) your fragile piano strings due to the load drawn by a single relay being essentially nil and the 12v being far less dangerous / air-arc-ey in general. 3) install plexi-glass tubes over each of your individual capacitors. This will help contain the sparks thrown by the capacitors, limiting the amount of fires you start inside your piano. This would also make it way more visible which note is being played as it'll only light up a single pillar above the capacitor rather than "exploding" out everywhere. Hypothetically speaking, you could even run them out the top of your cover like an organ and thus be able to play the piano with all your exposed electrical parts safe from being touched. I doubt you wanna mess with this project anymore than you already have but I'm happy to answer questions about this or generally discuss it with you or others here =)
I was thinking it needed some plexiglass. I'm glad you installed some. I think the concept would look awesome at a concert with the right design and implementation.
There are a few ways to make this much safer. Add an isolation transformer before the rectifier (or back to back transformers to step down / step up - you can also adjust your output voltage this way too). Possibly a cheap ZVS circuit module could generate the high voltage from batteries and feed each capacitor via a resistor to the main bus - this removes the mains completely and makes the piano portable. Add a suitable input fuse (won’t cater for most shorts here but still worth having). Use bleed resistors on each capacitor. Use a glass panel or plastic panel which blocks UV (not sure how significant the UV component is compared to say a welding arc).
Kudos to your two guest experts for being such good guys about it. When the Norwegian electrictrician said "I don't know why I'm here," I thought that it's probably because he was willing and speaks excellent English.
Some random piano ideas: - A piano that plays like another type of instrument, such as wind or percussion. (Like the guitar video) - Rube-Goldberg style piano to play each note - A piano that fires nerf dart/pellets either at the strings or they keys - A really tiny, but functional piano - A piano that can be controlled via computer and can play itself (I think you may already have this?) - would be cool to connect it to one of those floor pianos you play by jumping on/with your feet - Gaming piano with haptic feedback (such as the stool and keys vibrating - plus lots of RGB) - Just a really loud piano
I just cackled when that was mentioned because if there's anyone who would actually do this live, it'd be Flake from Rammstein I could see making some sort of contraption for his synth to control a Tesla coil on top of the insanity of their pyrotechnics.
I've been watching (and enjoying) your content since the first one of your piano experiments came out and I would just like to say, you never fail to entertain. Every one of your videos is amazing and and I admire your creativity and problem solving skill. As a musician who wants to study engineering, you are such an inspiration.
Piano idea: I always wanted to see Vibrato to be integrated into a piano, like some kind of lever on the side that could shake the strings a bit, but I understand how this could be too difficult to integrate. Great Video as always👍
A true string vibrato would be hard to implement. But a vibraphone like tremolo/vibrato would be possible, you just need a plate with periodic holes in it, that moves behind the strings. Would be kinda cool!
@@bliz85 yeah, I've suggested a "hurdy gurdy piano" a couple of times, with bow wheels and small electric motors that gets triggered when piano keys are pressed and closes the circuits
I am pretty sure there’s been some really weird attempts on this before on piano. But I’d have to do some digging to find it. But no attempt has been succesfull really. Thank you btw!
As soon as the electrical engineer started playing the piano I could see how excited he was by it, he was confused at first but you can tell he really enjoyed the concept and wanted to experiment with it
@@windyr The jump cuts made it seem like you went from "horror" to "fascination" over the piano, straight into "this is stupid let's just screw around"
Admittedly you could absolutely make this safe with enough effort. You'd need to make all the calculations to ensure the caps can't pop, give them some resistor to discharge them slowly when unplugged, it might need some cooling fans. Honestly the biggest issue with this is how the plasma will wear down those wires really fast. Now if you want it standalone safe you either want to enclose it fully, or if you want to see inside you would basically need to get a full plate of what the goggles are made from and use that instead of the plexiglass. The wire is a good point, whether you move it or not you should make a proper attachment for it on the inside so that it can't just get snagged out, you basically just screw a plastic thingy over the wire into the inner wall. Thing is with enough money, time, and effort you could make almost any stupid idea safe. You could make this piano IP68 and play it under water if you really wanted to, but it would cost a ton.
Thanks for the Video, i find it nice that they not only came for this time bomb, but also gave good advice in handling that complete disregard to anything you learn about when the words "safety" And "electrical" come together...
here's a piano idea: make a piano that, when you push a key, compresses a mini bellow which blows air through the corresponding note on a harmonica. You would probably need chromatic harmonica to get the notes you need, and then it's only 4 octaves, so you would probably have to only use the 48 middle keys on the piano.
@@Mattiaskrantz Yeah actually it is pretty similar, although in the case of organs, there's usually one set of bellows (electric or pedal powered) which blows the air through the reeds depending on which key valves are open. I always thought it would be interesting if there was an instrument where pressing on the keys actually provided the air pressure instead haha
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When you said you got an electrician my first thought was should have got an electronics technician, the engineer was close enough. Kind of cool seeing their differing responses. Having an associate degree in electronics, seeing the electrician's response/interaction was very humorous.
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Have you ever thought of making a resonator piano, similar to a resonator guitar? Never seen anything like it, but could give an interesting sound.Banjo concept could also be interesting...
Another great video, can't wait for the next. And maybe for a future piano, build one from actual scrap. I hope that will be less expensive in terms of money. Anyway, great work. Love your videos
Once again amazingly done! Bad Piano Idea: Cowbells or Bottles instead of strings or airtight piano filled with various gasses(like helium) to maybe change the sound. Also you could use this piano to make a pretty cool music video (maybe similar in style to this one ruclips.net/video/J3cg4tFLm7A/видео.html just with less light so you can see the sparks). Or you could try having two people play it at the same time with one person trying to be the "drums" and the other person trying to play a melody. Edit: also looking forward to the next video and pianos/guitars ya legend.
I actually recorded with pro pianist last weekend! And thanks for the ideas. I am very intruiged by making a vacuum chamber piano plus different gasses!
I‘d like the idea of a infinite sustain piano, with magnetic coils (or reverse guitar pickups) instead of hammers. basically like a sustaniac or e-bow vibrating the piano strings. (That would also make a nice samplepack)
Mattias, look into nomex paper for electrical insulation. Works well into the 1000s of volts depending on the thickness. Would work well for your arc piano for sure. Not the cheapest stuff however. For wire insulation look at buying silicone insulated wire used in RC vehicles. The insulation can withstand higher heat therefore higher currents. It also has more wire strands that make it more flexible. About the only way I can think to discharge the caps is to have a relay or switch that shorts that caps to ground through a high wattage resistor when you power down to bleed them out. Personally I like your arc piano more, but it is also a lot scarier.
Using crystal rods tuned to the frequency of the standard wires you could make a piano with a super neat sound. You would need to make sure the hammers are probably even gentler than normal, and/or make a gentle sharp tap tip
Hi, I have some ideas of what you could do with a piano: "A generator piano" that would produce electricity when you're playing it. It could be made with magnet attached on the hammer that would past through a bobine. A second idea would be: "a xylophone piano" You could replace the strings by a xylophone, that could be nice too! I love your video's by the way 🤩 Always entertaining for a musician and scientist like me😆
This is awesome! I love the piano, here are some of my suggestions, the first is genuinely something you should do before you flip a breaker. Take out the live wires and tie a knot into the end of the cable from inside the piano so if it gets pulled the knot will be large enough that it won't go through the hole and be yanked out. Plexiglass works out pretty okay for arc flash but it's not perfect, you could coat the glass in a thin colored film to reduce the flash. For the hammers being stuck, it'll make it harder to press the keys but perhaps adding a spring to pull the hammers back could work. You can calculate the power that the piano draws from the wall and spec a fuse to go in the outlet so if something fails and starts drawing a lot of power the fuse will pop and not damage anything else. An on/off switch on the piano would be helpful so you don't have to jump up and unplug it You could make a sacrificial wire hanging off the piano wires that the hammers will contact first so the arc will not damage the piano wires but it would be finicky and time-consuming. Like wrap a thin wire around the piano wires and have the end stick out twords the hammers a little, But not far enough it'll touch another piano wire, wrapping a thin -ish wire around the contact point could be enough by itself maybe, that'll definitely de-tune the piano though.
I still think you can Isolate the strings from the electrical loop by running a conductive probe above the hammer head and running a single wire above the strings. This way the spark happens higher up and not actually on the strings. It would save you on materials because you would only have one string that is getting worn and it would be easier to keep the piano in tune. You could technically move the “spark” completely out of the interior of the piano and into a more insulated plexiglass area above the piano to improve safety and make the sparks more visible
just been reminded about the organ engineer/tuner who came to visit our school and give a talk, as we had a huge old pipe organ in the school chapel (one of those giant ones that goes up to the ceiling). He told us about pranks you could play on an organ, like putting helium up the pipes, or another substance that made them extra deep instead.
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I'm surprised at the fellow wearing voltage gloves without the overglove. It didn't seem like he had the glove liners either. That's a pretty good way to end up with voltage safety equipment just as questionable as this piano.
Years ago I turned old wired headphone earbuds with the foam covers into mics and used these to record drums. One idea is to replace every piano hammer with earbuds (with foam, felt, cork or rubber coverings) to strike the piano strings and capture that sound. You will need a few audio mixing boards to plug a full piano of 81 keys. Another idea is to attach piezo pickups (or pressure sensitive switches) to the sides of every hammer and connect to a multi velocity sampling module (like Sweden's own 2Box modules) or program, a bit like the Mallet Kat (using eDrumin 10's). When using the 2Box modules with splitter cables the maximum inputs will be about 15 inputs per module. These ideas will electrify the piano with no chance of being electrocuted
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To prevent the resistors from overheating when a hammer sticks, a PTC resettable fuse in series with each resistor would drop the current automatically. To reduce the tendency to stick, a 2 watt carbon resistor in series with each hammer would limit the current - you would have to experiment to find the optimal ohm value to choose between spark size and not sticking. Just do 1 hammer first - Start with 100 ohms, go up or down by a factor of 2 each step, depending on the results.
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Pretty sure Medhi over at ElectroBoom would love to come see it.
Oh, you mentioned him later in the video. Didn't know he helped you with it. Must've missed that video.
Thanks for having me over! It really made me rethink my life decisions.
-Electrician
That’s how I feel after every video. Thanks for making the trip to see my sh*tty pianos🙏
It looked like you 2 had like an amazing time and bonding, was really good fun.
@@sjefdebelg3630 yeah we held hands
I think that's how most people feel after playing one Matten-stein piano creation XD
pyrotechnic would be interested
Immediately the best quote we’ve ever heard from one of these visitors “Of all the places you could put it, you just ape-brained it into the side?”
Hahaha function over form or whatever engineers say
Every electrician first though when they see something stupid, what ape-brained did this.
I would definitely secure that cable... You never want a 230v live cable flying loosely around... Imagine tripping over the wire and getting electrocuted while hitting the ground because you ripped the cable off
@@Mattiaskrantz At least until it catches on fire that is? 😅
(But my electrician advice is to add a strain relief to the cable so you don't accidentally trip on it and pull the live wires out. And I would buy a safety isolating transformer and plug it into that, then you won't get shocked as easily)
I liked that guy as well
As an electrician, this piano is just a killing machine, but its more like a dangerous beauty, kinda like eating a cactus of the ground
Now when I put plexi over it it feels super safe actually! :D
@@Mattiaskrantz Now THIS is a scary comment!
@@Mattiaskrantz the fact that it feel safe makes it more dangerous. Stay affraid stay alive
You're not an electrician lol
Would it be safer if it was using DC instead?
-A piano typewriter combination
-A piano that hits rubber chickens, bonus points if you somehow tune the chickens
-A piano that locks the key in place so you can only play each key once until you reset it all
-A LED piano where each note lights up a different light inside the piano
Lmao great ideas😆
The first one exists:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baudot_code
I want to see the one that lights up different colors as you play
PLEASE google the initial typewriters and fax machines. They were, in fact, pianos and they bring my great joy
The last one reminds me soviet ANS Synthesizer a bit.
Or light-based hammond organ equivalents that were build thorought history.
i love the electrical engineer's reaction like. "yeah objectively this is awful. but can I play with it."
he was kinda like a big kid, just going "yeah, i know this is Dangerous and can kill me, *But can i play with it regardless???* " xD
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Electrician: It's just a bad idea.
Mattias: What makes you think that?
Electrician: The fact that it's _deadly._
Hmm
Considering you've already made two elemental pianos (water and fire), may I suggest you complete the 4 elements with wind and earth pianos? The wind piano could be made of pull flutes or something, and you could replace the hammers for rocks for the earth one. Like a flintstones piano
I wanna make an airgun or leaf blower piano that just forcefully blow on the strings then put piano pickups under strings. It’s such a bad idea haha because it so inneffective. But would be fun
Wind piano = pipe organ
And play earth wind and fire.
Prince Rupert's drop as a hammer... Glass piano.
An air piano is just an organ/harmonium.
I like how the electrical engineer's face went from shock to fascination in 10 seconds
I like that he told us he was an engineer the first sentence he said!
@@Mattiaskrantz How can you tell if someone is an engineer? Don't worry, they will tell you immediately.
@@Teh_Random_Canadian How do you tell that your local fast food CEO is a ruthless druglord?
@@anamggss show up ontime with a partner who isn't high is a good start
@@Teh_Random_Canadian Dealers are more likely to be clean because they know that their product is filled with hyper lethal trash they can barely comprehend.
That being said, you always have the one dumbass somewhere.
"as an electrician, what do you usually do?"
"Not this"
I love this guy's wit XD
Hahaha yeah
I don’t think I can resist commenting. The capacity of this piano to surprise people is electrifying. They were just like, “Ohm my god, what did you build?” What is so shocking is that even after knowing, they’re still amped to help you, and not bolting out of the door! … I’ll see myself out.
You're *grounded* for *shockingly* bad jokes! lol
Hahaha I read first half of the comment not even noticing the puns. I’m to innocent 💀
Powerful punning.
watt is this comment punnage ohm-mega'd?
Wire your puns so bad? I think we should volt you off the island.
"Electricians experiencing professional dread" is a hitherto unknown favorite genre of mine
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The chemistry between you and the electricians was great, they seemed really cool about it and clearly were impressed
You mean the sparks were there 😏
@@hawkins347 ayyyy, I see what you did there haha
They were only impressed with how cute Mattias is in person.
@@jovetj I'm guessing they were also impressed that Mattias is still alive lol
@@jovetj yes, how electrocute he is
I love how all of Sweden is aware of him, and not a single electrician is willing to come XD props to the one electrician for being willing to fly out there for our entertainment.
The fact that you made it and survived still shocks me completely. And i dont see how you couldn’t be either.
I see what you did there
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The conversation between you two was absolutely priceless, it's like you've known each other for years
Thank you! I think we were on the same wave lenght or whatever you say😄
@@Mattiaskrantz Not only same wavelength, even the same amplitude, I think!
Can we just appreciate Norway for always coming in clutch
yes!!
@@Mattiaskrantz HEIA NORGE!
Having worked both as an electrician and an electrical engineer, I'm not surprised by their reactions.
Electricians tend to be a LOT more cautious around electricity and electrical engineers tend to be rather casual about it.
I LOVE this series and am excited to see what's next for the electrical piano.
I've not worked with, but I know people of both professions and all the electricians I know are very safety concerned. But that is kind of their job. Same with the engineer, his job is to see the possibilities.
Thank you!🙏 You really don’t want to see what piano comes next I think. It’s a nightmare!😬
@@Mattiaskrantz You've escalated with every build. The electric one was way beyond what I thought would be your ultimate one.
You're telling me you got something worse in store? I have to see it!
@@morphman86 dynamite piano?
The reason is simple. Engineers engineer stuff most of the time … the electricians are in the field and work with it and likely have seen how quick things go south.
The Electrical Engineer was such a good sport, and embraced the madness in context so happily.
Yeah people rarely leave my house happier than when they came!
HOLY CRAP I LOVE HOW HE FLEW OUT THERE AND HAS NOTHING TO FIX SO THEYRE JUST HANGING OUT AND TESTING HOW DRY THEIR HAND ARE BY THE RESISTANCE!!!
They're just hanging out😭😭😭😭😭
i really like how this time you didn’t “prank” the people you called over (given that this is a far more dangerous piano than the E one for example. that one can only harm one’s ears and heart lol), and they were both genuinely interested and curious about it. i wonder if it ever came to something? did they figure out a way to make it safer? will you continue working on it or is it a bit of a lost cause?
Oh this piano can hurt people's hearts as well, although probably not in the same way you mean...
@@OrangeC7 true, I hadn't thought of that lmao
The first guy already mentioned how to make it safe: insulate it, but then again you want openness for letting the sound emerge properly from the piano. A middle ground could be: insulating anything directed at the player and make a spark box of sorts around the hammer section so the sparks would land on places that will never catch fire.
Also regarding the glowing resistors, a different setup might be required to resolve that one.
He knows he needs to be serious about this one😂
The saga continues... These pianos are simply fantastic. I love them.
It continues even more soon. I was recording with a pro pianist in germany last week!
@@Mattiaskrantz did the pianist come from Germany, or did you travel with that hell piano to Germany?
@@vincentschulz5776 I think he went to Germany because he packed it.
It’s complicated but I took it with me on autobahn
@@Mattiaskrantz wow you must have driven so far! How long did it take?
The shock value that this piano brings is incredible.
It does seem quite electrifying! I'm sure it really creates quite the charged atmosphere in the room.
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I love how despite the piano being very threatening, the electricians were trying to somewhat help the build
The proper "electrician" for this piano is a high voltage electrical engineer, the same type that works / engineers high tension power lines and the switches for them.
They deal with contacts that have to survive high voltage loads and switching on and off and will give you the best advice, but even they will have to think outside the box, because the gear they usually use is WAY too big to fit in that piano!
As for bad ideas, sorry but in this genre, you have one upped me all the time so far, still I love seeing where you are coming from and where you are heading Mattias!
I'm an Electrictronics technician, and I really couldn't think of many more ways to make it safer, but there's something really simple that could make it a little bit safer:
About that power cord that could be pulled out or maybe it could come off if someone tripped on it, you can make a knot on it from the inside, so if someone pulls it, it gets locked on the knot, and doesn't come out 👍👍
i sugest isolation transformer
That's awful practice. Cable glands exist for a reason.
@@shadybabyxi exactly! Plus make it a 90 with a strain relief
I know one way to help make it safer is disconnect it from the power supply, wrap the whole thing up in about ten layers of plastic sheeting, dig a giant hole in a field somewhere and burry the piano
You may not be an electrician, but you’re an engineer
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@@Mattiaskrantz Dethgineer.
@@Mattiaskrantz You should find an actual engineer (who does large structural stuff) to look at the piano and then act like he's a colleague and you just want a peer review done
I started studying engineering in college and these kind of videos make me so much more motivated to learn electricity theory.
It was actually really interesting. Electrical engineering, at least inplemented for pianos!
Would be really cool if it had a foot switch to charge the capacitors so they weren't charged at all times. Like you could play melody then hit the switch to have sparks on a chord or something
We had this when I went to Germany to the pro pianist. We played firework by Katy perry and then during the chorus i Started the piano with pedal. It was epic
@@Mattiaskrantz Will you be uploading a recording of it?
Every time I find your video it's late at night. You are an engineer of chaos, and I appreciate your godless creations
It's 12:30 for me rn, I see that.
You can put a non-conduct varnish on the wood to avoid fire by sparks. Also, you can use a more thickness cable to the drain part (conected to strings).
Good ideas!
I love how his first reaction was to start criticizing you for the placement of the cable lmao.
Hahaha yeah thought the same
Well, he wanted to make sure he knew where the madness started... He didn't have to search far...
So Swedish of you to fly the Norwegian over just to mess with him
can’t sacrifice Swedes for this!
Also very Norwegian of that guy to be a metalhead who's unafraid of deadly pianos I think.
Or well, I assume his musical taste by his looks :P
@@Roozyj correct. It's illegal to not be a metalhead in Norway
@@windyr to be fair, almost everything is illegal in norway
@@windyr i have a Norwegian friend who doesn't like metal, should we euthanize him ?
Great idea!! Electricians are probably not usual subscribers, so he really had no idea hahaha
Nope hahahh and thanks🙏
Theory: Mattias isn't making pianos for the sake of making pianos. He's trying to set up a home defense by ensuring that absolutely NOBODY will want to go to his house and review his pianos. I think he's pretty close.
Electrician with industrial controls experience here.
Have some ways you could make this much better / safer, however you'd basically have to start the build over to implement some of these ideas.
1) using the bare metal of electrified hammers and your piano strings in order to directly run the power circuit is actually, properly insane.
It would be a far better solution to mount a small bracket that holds your conductor on the side / top / etc of your hammers which would make a connection with a 2nd bracket to the side of / behind the piano strings at the same time as the hammer lands. Using pieces of flexible metal that can slide up against eachother as the hammer moves forward / backward would be ideal, and these two changes would help keep your piano's sound much more normal and eliminate wear.
It's also worth noting that the far more obvious (but admittedly far less fun) solution to this would have been just putting a low-pressure push button below each of your piano keys that completes the circuit when you hit the key. But again, way less fun.
2) Relays fired with low voltage.
Right now it seems like you're running your circuit's load directly through the circuit connection. This is bad for *many* reasons.
What you could do is have a power supply that produces a low voltage like 12v hooked up inside your piano which would be used for separate, "controls" circuitry.
This 12v is what you would actually be running through the wires on your piano hammers. From there, the completed circuit would fire the coil of a relay which would then separately connect the higher voltage power to the capacitor in a MUCH safer manner. This plan would also massively reduce or eliminate the electrical arcs thrown around near (or at) your fragile piano strings due to the load drawn by a single relay being essentially nil and the 12v being far less dangerous / air-arc-ey in general.
3) install plexi-glass tubes over each of your individual capacitors.
This will help contain the sparks thrown by the capacitors, limiting the amount of fires you start inside your piano. This would also make it way more visible which note is being played as it'll only light up a single pillar above the capacitor rather than "exploding" out everywhere. Hypothetically speaking, you could even run them out the top of your cover like an organ and thus be able to play the piano with all your exposed electrical parts safe from being touched.
I doubt you wanna mess with this project anymore than you already have but I'm happy to answer questions about this or generally discuss it with you or others here =)
"no one should play this in their right mind" XD This is my favorite piano by far.
It’s good I found a pro pianist who wasn’t in his right mind!😁
I think you're way more likely to find certified engineers willing to fly over to inspect your piano on your discord server
Yeah hahahh true!
But that wouldn't be as exciting because they already know the project!
I was thinking it needed some plexiglass. I'm glad you installed some. I think the concept would look awesome at a concert with the right design and implementation.
You will love next video!🙏
@@Mattiaskrantz YOUR PLAYinG IT AT A CoNceRT?
You should do a piano that is on remote control, so it can actually chase the service people around when they come to fix it.
Mattias : what do you do as an electrician?
Electrician: not this 🤣🤣🤣
"And the resistor... Yeah it turns into like a lamp"
Love that line
I was hoping he was going to follow up with ”when it glows you know it’s on!” comment
Would you consider making all your pianos into an organ so you can play them all at once from the same keyboard? 👀
Yes!
@@Mattiaskrantz get in touch with LookMumNoComputer he does loads of crazy musical engineering stuff on his channel.
@@chrissugg968 Or Simon The Magpie.
Cool
So I was thinking about a piano that shoots glitter... now I'm thinking about an organ that shoots glitter out the pipes!
There are a few ways to make this much safer. Add an isolation transformer before the rectifier (or back to back transformers to step down / step up - you can also adjust your output voltage this way too). Possibly a cheap ZVS circuit module could generate the high voltage from batteries and feed each capacitor via a resistor to the main bus - this removes the mains completely and makes the piano portable.
Add a suitable input fuse (won’t cater for most shorts here but still worth having).
Use bleed resistors on each capacitor.
Use a glass panel or plastic panel which blocks UV (not sure how significant the UV component is compared to say a welding arc).
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Kudos to your two guest experts for being such good guys about it. When the Norwegian electrictrician said "I don't know why I'm here," I thought that it's probably because he was willing and speaks excellent English.
Some random piano ideas:
- A piano that plays like another type of instrument, such as wind or percussion. (Like the guitar video)
- Rube-Goldberg style piano to play each note
- A piano that fires nerf dart/pellets either at the strings or they keys
- A really tiny, but functional piano
- A piano that can be controlled via computer and can play itself (I think you may already have this?) - would be cool to connect it to one of those floor pianos you play by jumping on/with your feet
- Gaming piano with haptic feedback (such as the stool and keys vibrating - plus lots of RGB)
- Just a really loud piano
Some kind of projectile piano would be amazing. But also the other ideas are good🙏🫡
Mattias and first electrician:It's like chaotic bros trying to to fix garage made nuke 😂😂
Great description that’s how it felt😂
Actually having a live show with this piano would be amazing, defiantly looking forward to it if it happens.
I had a pro pianist play it!
I just cackled when that was mentioned because if there's anyone who would actually do this live, it'd be Flake from Rammstein I could see making some sort of contraption for his synth to control a Tesla coil on top of the insanity of their pyrotechnics.
ElectroBoom's electric guitar would be a perfect match for this piano.
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I've been watching (and enjoying) your content since the first one of your piano experiments came out and I would just like to say, you never fail to entertain.
Every one of your videos is amazing and and I admire your creativity and problem solving skill. As a musician who wants to study engineering, you are such an inspiration.
Thank you so much Justin🙏 Truly appreciate you have not given up on my weird vids🤝
Piano idea:
I always wanted to see Vibrato to be integrated into a piano, like some kind of lever on the side that could shake the strings a bit, but I understand how this could be too difficult to integrate.
Great Video as always👍
A true string vibrato would be hard to implement. But a vibraphone like tremolo/vibrato would be possible, you just need a plate with periodic holes in it, that moves behind the strings. Would be kinda cool!
Could be accomplished like a Vibraphone, using resonating tubes with rotating covers
Maybe a piano that bows instead of striking, with a pedal-operated vibrato?
@@bliz85 yeah, I've suggested a "hurdy gurdy piano" a couple of times, with bow wheels and small electric motors that gets triggered when piano keys are pressed and closes the circuits
I am pretty sure there’s been some really weird attempts on this before on piano. But I’d have to do some digging to find it. But no attempt has been succesfull really. Thank you btw!
“Established titles” that aged like milk
As soon as the electrical engineer started playing the piano I could see how excited he was by it, he was confused at first but you can tell he really enjoyed the concept and wanted to experiment with it
I love how this just devolved into two children screwing around. Like seeing how much resistance you have XD
It kind of had a purpose; I was wondering how much current would go through your body if you touched it
@@windyr The jump cuts made it seem like you went from "horror" to "fascination" over the piano, straight into "this is stupid let's just screw around"
Mattias: builds a piano that has a fair chance of catching on fire or electrocuting you.
also Mattias: censors the word "shoot"
i stan this cute relationship you two have its freaking adorable
Hahahh yes he was very fun!
"It's kinda grounded" is honestly terrifying.
Admittedly you could absolutely make this safe with enough effort. You'd need to make all the calculations to ensure the caps can't pop, give them some resistor to discharge them slowly when unplugged, it might need some cooling fans. Honestly the biggest issue with this is how the plasma will wear down those wires really fast. Now if you want it standalone safe you either want to enclose it fully, or if you want to see inside you would basically need to get a full plate of what the goggles are made from and use that instead of the plexiglass. The wire is a good point, whether you move it or not you should make a proper attachment for it on the inside so that it can't just get snagged out, you basically just screw a plastic thingy over the wire into the inner wall.
Thing is with enough money, time, and effort you could make almost any stupid idea safe. You could make this piano IP68 and play it under water if you really wanted to, but it would cost a ton.
Thanks for the Video, i find it nice that they not only came for this time bomb, but also gave good advice in handling that complete disregard to anything you learn about when the words "safety" And "electrical" come together...
here's a piano idea: make a piano that, when you push a key, compresses a mini bellow which blows air through the corresponding note on a harmonica.
You would probably need chromatic harmonica to get the notes you need, and then it's only 4 octaves, so you would probably have to only use the 48 middle keys on the piano.
Wait isn’t this exactly how a reed organ works? I recall watching some restorarion videos on these things and this felt familiar!
@@Mattiaskrantz Yeah actually it is pretty similar, although in the case of organs, there's usually one set of bellows (electric or pedal powered) which blows the air through the reeds depending on which key valves are open. I always thought it would be interesting if there was an instrument where pressing on the keys actually provided the air pressure instead haha
Good idea, but a little too late. The pump organ was invented some 250 years ago.
Mattias, with the electrician you are a duo of pure comedic gold. Please invite him more! :D
''You just ape-brained it into the side'' What a quote lol.
aye glad to see you made this video you were talking about :P
I know I won't be the only one doing this but it's worth it anyways
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Now we're waiting for you to call a plumber to fix the piano that is filled with water.
Established titles are shady and not what they seam so stop partnering with them
The electrician backing into the corner of the room tells you everything you need to know
When you said you got an electrician my first thought was should have got an electronics technician, the engineer was close enough.
Kind of cool seeing their differing responses.
Having an associate degree in electronics, seeing the electrician's response/interaction was very humorous.
Madness. Exact type of madness that gets you killed... and recommended on youtube
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Have you ever thought of making a resonator piano, similar to a resonator guitar? Never seen anything like it, but could give an interesting sound.Banjo concept could also be interesting...
I’ve not exactly that. I recall some piano tech wanted me to exchange the soundboard to a steel plate to get som plate reverb😆 But that’s the closest
Another great video, can't wait for the next.
And maybe for a future piano, build one from actual scrap. I hope that will be less expensive in terms of money.
Anyway, great work. Love your videos
Thank you Mike! If I know pianos, that would end up super expensive somehow😁
this guy just came and you immediately became a comedy duo
This video perfectly demonstrates the difference between a mechanic (electrician) and an engineer.
very unique electric piano, mattias. hope the electricians can offer solutions to fix the piano.
I’m not sure if they did hahah. Kind of?😆
@@Mattiaskrantz i'm sure their reaction to your electric piano was worth it though.
@@lastnamefirstname8655 ofc I actually didn’t even have time to implement anything before I had the pro pianist playing it
@@Mattiaskrantz can't wait to see the pro pianist play your electric piano!
Once again amazingly done!
Bad Piano Idea: Cowbells or Bottles instead of strings or airtight piano filled with various gasses(like helium) to maybe change the sound.
Also you could use this piano to make a pretty cool music video (maybe similar in style to this one ruclips.net/video/J3cg4tFLm7A/видео.html just with less light so you can see the sparks).
Or you could try having two people play it at the same time with one person trying to be the "drums" and the other person trying to play a melody.
Edit: also looking forward to the next video and pianos/guitars ya legend.
I actually recorded with pro pianist last weekend! And thanks for the ideas. I am very intruiged by making a vacuum chamber piano plus different gasses!
@@Mattiaskrantz That sounds actually impossible lol. Good luck if you decide to attempt it.
I‘d like the idea of a infinite sustain piano, with magnetic coils (or reverse guitar pickups) instead of hammers. basically like a sustaniac or e-bow vibrating the piano strings. (That would also make a nice samplepack)
This actually exist. I would link it if I would recall it’s name. Sounded really cool!
Mattias, look into nomex paper for electrical insulation. Works well into the 1000s of volts depending on the thickness. Would work well for your arc piano for sure. Not the cheapest stuff however. For wire insulation look at buying silicone insulated wire used in RC vehicles. The insulation can withstand higher heat therefore higher currents. It also has more wire strands that make it more flexible. About the only way I can think to discharge the caps is to have a relay or switch that shorts that caps to ground through a high wattage resistor when you power down to bleed them out. Personally I like your arc piano more, but it is also a lot scarier.
Using crystal rods tuned to the frequency of the standard wires you could make a piano with a super neat sound. You would need to make sure the hammers are probably even gentler than normal, and/or make a gentle sharp tap tip
Might wanna reconsider the sponsorship on this video, bud. Other than that, I like the piano.
Hi,
I have some ideas of what you could do with a piano: "A generator piano" that would produce electricity when you're playing it. It could be made with magnet attached on the hammer that would past through a bobine.
A second idea would be: "a xylophone piano" You could replace the strings by a xylophone, that could be nice too!
I love your video's by the way 🤩 Always entertaining for a musician and scientist like me😆
It could also maybe be made with a piezoelectric thing, like you have in the click lighter's.
That is some really interesting ideas. I’ll think a bit more about these thank you!😄🫡
Xylophone pianos exist, I actually have a really tiny 2-octive piano for toddlers that's essentially a xylophone.
Honestly, imagine playing Blinding Lights on this piano.
That would be the obvious choice if he collabed with Styropyro instead of ElectroBOOM.
*_LASER PIANO!!!_*
"Can you watch it so it doesn't weld?"
"What??"
Most genuine thing I've seen today
haha I couldn't hear anything
This is awesome! I love the piano, here are some of my suggestions, the first is genuinely something you should do before you flip a breaker.
Take out the live wires and tie a knot into the end of the cable from inside the piano so if it gets pulled the knot will be large enough that it won't go through the hole and be yanked out.
Plexiglass works out pretty okay for arc flash but it's not perfect, you could coat the glass in a thin colored film to reduce the flash.
For the hammers being stuck, it'll make it harder to press the keys but perhaps adding a spring to pull the hammers back could work.
You can calculate the power that the piano draws from the wall and spec a fuse to go in the outlet so if something fails and starts drawing a lot of power the fuse will pop and not damage anything else.
An on/off switch on the piano would be helpful so you don't have to jump up and unplug it
You could make a sacrificial wire hanging off the piano wires that the hammers will contact first so the arc will not damage the piano wires but it would be finicky and time-consuming. Like wrap a thin wire around the piano wires and have the end stick out twords the hammers a little, But not far enough it'll touch another piano wire, wrapping a thin -ish wire around the contact point could be enough by itself maybe, that'll definitely de-tune the piano though.
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I still think you can Isolate the strings from the electrical loop by running a conductive probe above the hammer head and running a single wire above the strings. This way the spark happens higher up and not actually on the strings. It would save you on materials because you would only have one string that is getting worn and it would be easier to keep the piano in tune. You could technically move the “spark” completely out of the interior of the piano and into a more insulated plexiglass area above the piano to improve safety and make the sparks more visible
just been reminded about the organ engineer/tuner who came to visit our school and give a talk, as we had a huge old pipe organ in the school chapel (one of those giant ones that goes up to the ceiling). He told us about pranks you could play on an organ, like putting helium up the pipes, or another substance that made them extra deep instead.
Sulfur Hexafloride, a gas that makes your voice super deep
@@DaP84 that's the one. (Now all I have in my head is Adam Savage talking on it declaring "IT'S SCIENTIFIC!"
@@MiceAndMinecraft Yeah 😁I wonder if any metal vocalist has used it in a song
Absolutely love the first electrician keeping WELL away from the piano after the initial look :D
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They never claim to let you use the land, all that they claim is you can get Lord or lady before your name.
@@southafricancarlover8666Yeah but even that is a lie
I'm surprised at the fellow wearing voltage gloves without the overglove. It didn't seem like he had the glove liners either. That's a pretty good way to end up with voltage safety equipment just as questionable as this piano.
Keep up the good work 👍 You might want to take a closer look into Established Titles, they do not have a good track record.
Years ago I turned old wired headphone earbuds with the foam covers into mics and used these to record drums. One idea is to replace every piano hammer with earbuds (with foam, felt, cork or rubber coverings) to strike the piano strings and capture that sound. You will need a few audio mixing boards to plug a full piano of 81 keys.
Another idea is to attach piezo pickups (or pressure sensitive switches) to the sides of every hammer and connect to a multi velocity sampling module (like Sweden's own 2Box modules) or program, a bit like the Mallet Kat (using eDrumin 10's). When using the 2Box modules with splitter cables the maximum inputs will be about 15 inputs per module.
These ideas will electrify the piano with no chance of being electrocuted
I loved this, your dry humor speaks to my danish heart. much love scaninavian brother
This was definitely fun. I'm glad they were shocked, but not shocked.⚡😵💫
Thank you! Me too😁
i kind of want to hear through the fire and flames on this piano
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I'm absolutely dead. That has to be one of the funniest things I've ever heard. "You just ape-brained it right into the side".
To prevent the resistors from overheating when a hammer sticks, a PTC resettable fuse in series with each resistor would drop the current automatically. To reduce the tendency to stick, a 2 watt carbon resistor in series with each hammer would limit the current - you would have to experiment to find the optimal ohm value to choose between spark size and not sticking. Just do 1 hammer first - Start with 100 ohms, go up or down by a factor of 2 each step, depending on the results.
keep up the good work and im interested what else u can do with pianos
Me too I’m not sure yet. Thank you!!
@@Mattiaskrantz How about filling a piano with helium?