Yes, yes it is. It’s also the last Bond film with all the elements and a more classic style of storytelling (as opposed to the ever escalating, this time its MORE personal).
@@Thatguy55595 I do consider casino royale a really good film, though it’s missing too many classic Bond elements that makes the series fun. If every Bond movie was in that tone since 1962 the series would be dead by now. But as a response to DAD’s ridiculousness and as its own film it was good.
I have to admit that I have enjoyed Brosnan's Bond far more since he left the role. At the time he seemed too smarmy but his roles in November Man, No Escape and The Foriegner in particular now lend his Bond tenure more grit and empathy. He'd be a fantastic villain too.
Having recently marathoned the Bond series from Dr. No all the way to Die Another Day... yeah, I say The World Is Not Enough is the one that left the biggest impression on me with its pair of villains. Couple that with a great performance by Pierce and the best ever Bond theme song and yeah, TWINE is my favorite Bond movie.
@@niksta007a Totally agree. Nobody else talks about it though! This film was ahead of the curve in giving Bond a more serious & character-driven movie....years before the franchise began trying to keep pace with Nolan's Batman and Jason Bourne.
@@rossmccay Skyfall is the only one that resembles a Bond movie. Probably because it's a mixture of Goldeneye and The World is Not Enough. Didn't get what all the fuss around Casino Royale was all about. And even in them Craig remains Craig.
I love this film, excluding Denise Richards. I just ignore her completely. But otherwise I think it’s really good. A lot of new ideas, M gets involved, amazing female villain, great action. Brosnan is great! It’s in my top 5
Great job gents. A balanced review. Which is rare, as I often find the vitriol expunged on TWINE perplexing. Sure, it has its flaws, the execution isn't always the best, but I would much rather watch a Bond film that experiments and arguably fails, than a formulaic Bond picture.
Its good, i love all the Bond Films, i personally like Golden Eye. But i agree Pierce Portrayal of Bond in The World is Not Enough is his best presentation of his Bond
After seeing this video, I watched the movie for the first time since it came out. It was far better than I remembered, and I think definitely Brosnan's best turn. It had all the classic Bond elements, good music, great skiing scenes, excellent script with good lines, a unique villain, and a formidable female character in Sophie Marceau. In hindsight, it felt like the last classic Bond film with all the right elements. Also, Brosnan himself was finally seasoned and confident in this one, and more worldly than he seemed in other films.
Btw i totally agree with the points in this video, both the good points and the criticisms, especially the lack of payoff with Renard and the excessive gun pointing by Bond (something I've noticed in all the Brosnan films). And usually I love Robert Carlisle. He was far more intimidating and scene-stealing as Rumpelstiltskin in Once Upon a Time.
Yeah I feel the same as you. And you're right about the classic elements. There are also some clever references to Majesty's (such as the reveal of the ear that's missing an earlobe being a great reference to Blofeld)
@@greatwuta I agree it's improved, but I like Dr. No because it's a very raw form of James Bond that I like. It's not too over the top, it's just James Bond doing his job. It just has this classic spy look to it that I like. No gadgets from what I recall, all he had was his ppk. Instead of using gadgets, Bond utilizes what he can for any situation he finds himself in. For example, bond uses a strand of his hair as a way to see if someone was snooping around his room. He also uses powder to see if anyone tampered with his suitcase. You get to see Bond use more of his smarts like when he goes to pour a drink, he thinks twice that it may be poisoned, so he opens a new bottle instead. Cool little stuff like that, I like that kind of stuff, you know? Another good example is when Bond knows someone is on their way to assassinate Bond, so Bond then decorates the room to make it look like he had a few drinks and is in bed, clueless. Only to find it's a trap for professor Dent that leads to my favorite scene in the movie; "you've had your six." You get to see Bond without the gadgets. Then you still get that classic "over the top" look towards the end of the film in Dr. No's secret lair. I really love that film!
@@dreamerjazz352 Well here are my top 5 James Bond films 1. The Spy Who Loved Me 2. For Your Eyes Only 3. You Only Live Twice 4. Tomorrow Never Dies 5. Octopussy
Great discussion as always. I have a fondness for this film. I'll admit it's because of what it wanted to be and not so much how it was executed. It wanted to be a FYEO and Daylights with plot twists and character development. Brosnan is great. All of the cast overacts at times. The bullet in the brain story goes nowhere and wasn't needed. Although the script let him down, Carlyle is a strong actor and is a decent henchman. Despite its flaws, I really enjoy this one.
I felt it tried to be more of a dark reprise to OHMSS, what's with the title, the skiing action scenes, the plot about Bond falling for an emotionally messed up rich girl. As for Renard, the bullet in the brain does give us a great moment of insight into his character - his intimate scene with Elektra shows that he's deeply disturbed by being unable to feel anything and living on a borrowed time and he is very conscious about Elektra wanting Bond to be his future replacement, but he can't do anything about it, having fallen for Elektra. That is what made him such a fascinating and even somewhat tragic character for me, even if he is a horrible person.
Fantastic video as always! I've always loved this movie. In fact it's very likely my pick for the most underrated movie in the franchise. Goldeneye is my favourite Pierce but TWINE is a very close second.
I think this is Pierce's best performance while i think Goldeneye is his better film. But i agree that as soon as he dives off the balcony after shooting Electra the film loses something. I have a hard time ranking this or TMD higher as I like them both - and they have good and not-so-good points.
TWINE is Brosnan's best portrayal/performance of Bond in my opinion - he plays it with so much grit and looks the part. Goldeneye is the better film overall - a much stronger 3rd act.
Ppl love to talk about Christmas Jones in this movie but always seem to fail to mention the fact that this movie also gave us the first true female Bond villain with a stunning twist, not only did she use her sex as a weapon against 007, it actually worked as her plan almost came off without a hitch and she managed to compromise him with that weakness.
I love that scene where Bond notices the foaming on his fingers. The audience has no idea why his fingers are foaming (and likely Bond has no idea) but the oddness is enough for everyone (Bond, M, the audience) to realize something is wrong.
Thought Brosnan was almost the perfect Bond he had elements of Roger and Sean. The two stand out films for me are Goldeneye and The World Is Not Enough. I went to both Premieres but nothing could beat the experience I had with Goldeneye. That's a special film. Agree about the opening sequence of TWINE it's almost too good. It's so good it builds up your expectation for the film that follows and the film that follows doesn't quite live up to the opening but it's still a great Bond movie and Pierce really did come of age as Bond. Goldeneye is the best film but he was best as Bond in TWINE.
I always liked this one. Brosnan had specifically requested more basic man-with-a-gun stuff with less OTT dispatching of villains as in TND. They definitely wasted the idea of Renard not feeling pain. They could have chopped all his limbs off and he could have said "Tis but a scratch!"
I agree with you I turned 9 when Goldeneye came out in 95 and when started becoming a Bond fan as my cousin had all the older Bond films on vhs at the time and we would watch them together but Goldeneye was the first I saw in theaters. The World Is Not Enough was released when had turned 13 and remember seeing that one more in theaters and consider my favorite Brosnan film next to Goldeneye.
Maybe The World Is Not Enough isn't the best of the third 007 installments per Bond actor, but it was the 007 film in which Brosnan hit his stride as James Bond. However, I think the 007 video games contributed to this (especially Nightfire, which came out shortly before Die Another Day).
Just in terms of style, I'm with Joe. That cream linen suit did not work, just because the collar kept popping out in the finale like it was the 1970s in a bad way.
Just watching the movie and taking a break in the middle. Its a favourite for me, real nice tone to it and lovely photography. My aunt owned the building they shot the boat through the restaurant in London, we went down to the set that day and saw Pierce in the boat on the Thames.
Agree, great film. It shouldn't be over nit-picked as it's enjoyable from start to finish - like an album where you don't have to skip any tracks. Great job Pierce. PS Great you got to see the Q-Boat in the Thames!! One of the best sequences in the entire series!
I got this ranked #12 best 007 film. So yes I do enjoy The World Is Not Enough. But my favorite Brosnan 007 film is Tomorrow Never Dies. TAKE THAT SCOTT!
My favourite and the best Brosnan Bond film. I always felt this way. Terrific story. Great performances especially with Marceau and Brosnan. Beautiful locations. Wonderful balance with action and drama. Even with Denise Richards as a nuclear physicist- I still rank this film very highly.
Hard disagree on Zukovsky in this movie (23:42). He's one of the series best Bond contacts/allies. 1. He was excellent in GoldenEye too but in TWINE he's better incorporated into the story. 2. Unlike Xmas Jones, he provides just the right amount of levity (to a film with an undeniably dark and serious undercurrent). 3. His final scene is terrific. Had Bond never shot him in the knee (as we learn in GoldenEye), Zukovsky never would have been in position to save his life via the cane gun.
The Word is Not Enough was the 1st James Bond movie I went to see on the big screen and it's one of my favorite James Bond movie. At the time, I thought it was Pierce Brosnan's best James Bond movie since GoldenEye.
This is Brosnan"s best go at putting meat on the character of Bond and it's a shame that it went to waste in DAD And the expanding of Judi Dench's M really started here And Desmond strangely had a fitting farewell even if not intended Yes it's Peirce's best effort
I have a feeling Desmond's scene was written that way on purpose, in case he was unable to do any more Bond films (he was 84, and although he died in a car crash, maybe EON knew from his medical that he wasn't well, or just because of his age).
@@garybryant1501 Yeah, it's a strangely touching scene, that shows a father like aspect from Q to Bond (and of course Bond had lost his own). Like he knows he's going soon. Actually, they say the Q Boat is for his retirement, so they were nudging that way.
@@davidjames579 I always thought that's why he comes to Bond's aid in LTK and when they share the hotel bedroom I imagine he talked about fishing and sent Bond to sleep 😁
@@garybryant1501 Yeah, despite their bickering, when the chips are down, Q's there for him. Only 5 Bond films in and Q's comment to Bond at his wedding is quite paternal. Yeah, would love there to be a deleted scene of Bond and Q sharing a hotel room! Perhaps someone could voice one over a black screen! :-)
Share a lot of these opinions, great work guys. Robert Carlyle is a terrific British actor and must have been irresistible to the producers after Trainspotting and Full Monty. However, he wasn't a very fleshed out villain and the submarine fight only sticks in my mind because Denise looked terrific in wet clothes.
I totally agree with you. When I first saw this, the beginning made me feel that this is Bond! This was the best of the old school Bonds rolled into 1. Unfortunately, the story kind of falls apart. I feel they should have scrapped the Reinard character. It would've been enough just to have Elektra being the surprise villain. If the story was a Bond girl becoming a villain, I think that would've made a better movie; especially with Pierce hitting his stride with the character.
Nothing surpassed Goldeneye, I’d argue. Martin’s superb direction, it both honoured the past but felt genuinely contemporary, not least with that synth led awesome Serra soundtrack to help. It had a fresh innocence, but confidently knew what it was trying to do and I’d say that is was always his best by some way. However, TWINE is certainly his other truly great solid Bond film and a close run second to me, or even on a par, albeit with Pierce being more established and what that brought. It also has that OHMSS or Casino like element or retread to the dynamic with Sophie’s character. That said, with Pierce’s charisma and effortless charm means even the slightly weaker ones are still great and enjoyable.
Not even close to being on par to me. Goldeneye doesn't really have a weak link. The only thing people regularly bring up is the score, but like you I think it's great. TWINE has Denise Richards completely ruining one of the main parts, a villain who feels no pain which is never used, and the visual direction isn't close to the beautiful work Campbell did on Goldeneye. I'm also not a fan of Judi Dench in the field. Just always feels silly. And Goldeneye's pre-credit sequence is leagues better. That boat chase on the Thames should be thrilling, and it's just tension free. In fact, Brosnan's films in general after Goldeneye substituted tension for bombast. David Arnold's relentless scores didn't help with their constant blaring horns over 90s beats. On the plus side, Brosnan and Marceau are both great. But that's about it for me.
Love TWINE, I think it is Brosnan's best. Love the PTS "I am giving you the opportunity to walk out with your life", villain Sophia Marceau and Renard the henchman are great, I love how they send off Q, really great soundtrack, always enjoy seeing Valentin in the Bond films, I also do not think Denise Richards is as bad as some people say. When Bond first meets Christmas, that scene in the underground site is very good. TWINE is a top ten for me.
I think all of Brosnan films are some of the best ever Bond films - all except Die Another Day!! They are easy to follow, fast and super stylish. You can get bored watching some of the Roger Moore ones etc but in Brosnan's films there is never a dull moment!
Goldeneye is my favorite Bond film with Majesties. World is in my top ten. But love Brosnan in Goldeneye. But this film is great. My favorite pre title with Living Daylights and Octopussy. Elektra King one of my favorite villians, Trevelyan still my obsolute favorite villian. M is very well done in this. My only blemish was Christmas Jones, and Rennard a let down, after the championing him up. There was little build up with Brad Whittaker, yet i love his confrontation with Bond. The whole obbsession with war strategy, and how he would have won wars, was so cool. And confronting Bond with strobes, various weaponry was great. Rennard on sub was anticlimatic. But love Brosnan as Bond. But, no GE is his best. Best Bond villian in Trevelyan, tied best henchman in Onatopp, tied with Oddjob. General Orumov is great. Boris is great as comedic villian. Coltranes Zikovsky is great ally. Only blemish is lack of score. Tank scene score is great.
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The first Bond movie I ever saw was License to Kill (Licence?) because my dad would watch it when it was on TV. I saw GoldenEye when we rented it from Blockbuster Video and I liked it, but as a kid, I feel like the N64 game overshadowed it with my friends (again, as a kid). The World is Not Enough was my first Bond film that I saw in theaters. I loved it when I saw it even though it was a little more plot-heavy and soap-opera-ish than I was expecting and I admit I didn't fully understand the plot at the time. The theme song is my favorite of all the Bond movies. And 28 year old Denise Richards was the most beautiful woman ever to my teenage self.
Just had a thought the 2 villains r like the 2 villains in dark knight rises. Renard being bane and Electra being talia al ghul. Bane feels no pain like Renard you think he's the main villain until the switch when you find out it's actually talia just like Electra.
Nolan is a big Bond fan, so I guess he ripped that off. Along with the opening sequence resembling Licence To Kill's. From the books, the Miranda Tate/Talia thing is like what happens with Bond and Nina Bismaquer/Blofeld in For Special Services. With the revealed villainess, being the heir to her father's criminal empire, and someone the hero has killed.
Bane is a lot better than Renard as a villain but Talia didn't really need to be in the film as that twist happens so late it's one complication too many for me at least
@@jamesatkinsonja Sadly I twigged early in the film. Tate seemed such a nothing character for Marion Cotillard to play. Also she'd just been a major character in Nolan's last film. I thought, she's not doing very much, she has to be a villain. Probably Talia.
I remember prior to Desmond Llewelyn's death that it was reported that John Cleese was hired to be Q's assistant, and in later films replace Llewelyn, when he wanted to retire from acting (he was 85 when he died). I'm not sure if TWINE was intended to be Llewelyn last, but it seemed like it was set up to maybe be, or suggest it. I think Llewelyn may have made DAD his last. Funnily enough, with the series rebooting after that, Llewelyn and Cleese wouldn't have come back. Even if Dench did.
Pierce has been in films that have got good reviews, including Bond films. But he also has had misfortune of being in films with bad reviews which overshadow potentially great performances that he was giving.
i remember Calvin Dyson saying that :Denise Richards stated in her autobiography "The Real Girl Next Door" that she did not have a happy experience on the film. She claimed that the director made no effort to build any comradery on set or give her much direction. She felt very lonely and unwanted (as her casting was Executive Meddling from MGM) and depressed at the negative reviews she received.' I do feel a bit sorry for her as the part is badly written and she was set up to fail in a way
@@bonghunezhou5051 Similar to Teri Hatcher before and Hallie Berry+Michael Madson afterwards, MGM wanted Bond do do better in America and applied pressure for these actors to be in the films. Apparently they told Eon they either had to cast Denise Richards as Jones or Sharon Stone as Electra [which would have given the twist away instantly].
@@bonghunezhou5051 I think Denise probably thought this was going to make her an A-lister which made the actual experience even worse. I think she could have done a good job if they'd cast her in the right role but this tarnished her career.
22:21 we lost David Arnold from Bond as Sam Mendes wanted to use his regular composer for his films and that was also the case for NTTD [though the original choice was eventually replaced by Hans Zimmer]
this is also where neal purvis and robert wade came in as the writers from here onwards to bring the m and Bond relatioship up a tone . Did you guys notice Skyfall almost stealing the attack on MI6 from this movie?? i feel this movie did it better
You hit the nail on the head here. People underestimate this movie. Purvis & Wade's first...but the film's pros outweigh the cons. And the strengths feel like a point-by-point warmup for the best aspects of Craig's era.
If this movie has soap opera moments then the Craig era is almost entirely soap opera. Even if Renard could not feel pain he could still get physically fatigued. Even though I loved Brosnan as Bond, his thin size made these fights less believable (one of the few things I like better about Craig....and yeah, I know, Bruce Lee was skinny, but he still has defined muscles and he was a clear master of a martial art). I agree the ending kinda pestered out. I liked Sophie Marceau and Robbie Coltrane. Denise Richards brought the movie down if being critical (when I watched it initially and years after it didn't distract me from the movie too much, but reading all the criticism maybe has me wincing when seeing her scenes now). I thought the Garbage theme was forgettable, but not awful. Overall I think it's a really good Bond movie. I still prefer it to rewatching the dour Craig films.
On the subject of Renard and his "superpower", around the same time that this movie came out there was a Dateline spot about a child that was born with a rare genetic defect that he couldn't feel pain. And I remember seeing this in the theater and had mentioned that to my Dad afterwards about the condition, and asked him, "In a James Bond world, if say, the Soviets had child with this rare genetic disorder, would they have trained them and harden them to some kind of super soldier?" He gave a long winded answer of how the Soviet system would use any resource to their advantage... Blah, Blah, Blah, Yadda, Yadda, Yadda, basically Yes they would. I asked him "Why didn't do that instead of some bullet wound to the head?" He said, "I don't have a clue"
I’ve always thought in the opening sequence after Bond has jumped out of the Swiss banker’s office with the chord around his waist, he should have said “Bad trade” to the onlookers.
I just re-watched "The World is not Enough" again last night on blu-ray, and I actually really enjoyed the experience. I had more fun with this film than I ever did for some reason. Brosnan was a very good Bond. Robert Carlyle's Renald is the weak spot in this film. The character wasn't thought through by the writers or director. Renald really isn't even needed in this story and the movie may have been better without Renald completely. I actually think Brosnan is at his best Bond in Die Another Day, however, even though the rest of that movie pretty much stinks, Brosnan is great in Die Another Day. But Pierce Brosnan's best Bond movie is definitely "GoldenEye".
for me the best Brosnan's Bond is 'Tomorrow never dies'. - good plot - MacGuffin bringing to mind the one from 'For your eyes only' - chopper chasing motorcycle - great (underrated) villain toying with the trope of 'world domination' (he even uses this phrase!) - great garage chase - diving scene it cleverly used known Bond tropes, referred to them and brought interesting stuff.
I loved this movie. I can't rank Brosnan's movies as he is great in this role. For me he has a right balance of everything. I love Brosnan as Bond. He was amazing and I am so so glad he got an opportunity to play Bond.
I definitely think this is Pierce's best performance as Bond. Say what you will about the World Is Not Enough, personally I like the movie, but Pierce is a highlight in the movie.
I always thought they could have made more of Robert Carlyle's imperviousness to pain. Having lost everything, we should have had a scene of him walking toward Bond, fully in the knowledge that he was done, and good for all but death. Bond could be seen to shoot him in attempt to stop him, but it would of course be ineffective. Renard just keeps walking. Bond lets off more bullets and all it does is slow him down. As Renard creeps to a slow, soon-to-be-dead stagger, he could have said "I can't feel any of this. But then, neither can you," as an obvious reference to Bond's cold, assassin-like mindset, having just put down Elektra. The point wouldn't be that Renard all of a sudden gained a conscience, but that deep down maybe Bond is even more impenetrable than he is. But, y'know, a fight on a submarine is cool too.
I have always had a soft spot for Goldeneye as it was the first new Bond film to come out when I was a kid and able to go see them. I geneuinely thought it nailed the tone and action. Plus it had Sean Bean and the fantastic tie-in game. Every subsequent Brosnan film felt worse at the time. However, it's so long since I've seen any of them that I certainly wouldn't be surprised to find it hasn't aged well at all (I started watching through all the Bonds failry recently but gave up at the first Moore film - wow, did i not like his style).
Sophie Marceu was excellent, Denise Richards not so much. I’ve always liked this one. Brosnam was born to play this role. The producers and directors are to blame for the fantasy style
I like Goldeneye a lot, but TND is Brosnan's best, in my opinion. TWINE comes in third. The first half of DAD comes in fourth and the last half is a cartoon.
There's a deleted scene where they go more into Electra's background story. The lack of payoff for Renard's pain thing is disappointing, and the final fight in the sub along with Denise Richards in general really bring this film down. I completely agree that there are certain elements that hold it back from being truly great. Unfortunately the script as well as shooting were super rushed for this and TND; so much wasted potential! Brosnan openly complained about how these films were handled in an interview for this movie, he seemed quite frustrated with Barbara and Michael! This was not supposed to be Desmond Llewelyn's last appearance as Q. This film's score is great, and I think it has the best pre-title sequence of the whole franchise!
the script was filled with fresh/unique ideas it's just the writing clunky in some cases. also I think the director didn't knew how to shoot these kind of big franchise movies. before this, the director Michael Apted was mostly known for documentries or soap opera (which is no surprising, since as you said, this movie featured some soap opera elements). the action scenes are kinda lackluster because of his lack of experience in action movies. I mean don't get me wrong, most of the action isn't that bad. it's just some of the stunts feels pre-orchestrated, like something straight out of some stunt show in universal studios.. with that said this movie is definitely the best one from Brosnan, his era should've had been ended with this movie instead of that garbage Die Another Day. and as for the Bond girl Sofie Marceau, so I don't think she gets enough praise. first of all she is a fantastic actress (she saved the movie from being a abomination in the hands of Denise Richards) and her character was very interesting as well. the film tries to show it as Renard is manipulating Elektra. but it turns out she *was* manipulating him. she never had any stockholm syndrome, it was all staged, she did it so she could use his power to take down everyone in their way, and in the end she would take him down, so she can get a monopoly on oil in that region. she is definitely one of the greatest Bond girls ever in my opinion.
A fair analysis. Many solid points. The "stockholm syndrome" thing is great. It's a giant red herring meant to mislead the audience. Overall, would you rate this movie above GoldenEye?
@@jambler15 no, I think Goldeneye is still superior (it's literally one of the most popular bond entries ever). it has a certain nostalgia to it. but I will put TWINE in Brosnan's second best run
This had the potential to be a great Bond movie but a lot of the plot elements feel unfulfilled and leave something to be desired. The action is also a bit lackluster other than the pre-title sequence. But it has some good drama, I'll give it that.
Martin Campbell should have directed this movie because he did a great job with goldeneye and because i felt like something was missing this film should have lasted 30 minutes longer so that we can understand the story everything went fast. i think they should have started the Pierce Brosnan era with tomorrow never dies, the world is not enough as the second bond movie and goldeneye as the third bond movie goldeneye it's my favorite during the brosnan era and it had everything to be an outstanding movie because of the betrayal of Alec Trevelian. who was an ex agent of the MI6
I always prefer to say positive rather than negative things. Having said that, I think Goldeneye and (and for all its faults and the invisible car) Die Another Day were the best of the Brosnan's. I will be interested to hear whether other people could get emotionally involved in TWINE. I couldn't but it was probably just me. Looking forward to the debate amongst Joe, David and the Bond community. Thanks guys
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Yes, yes it is. It’s also the last Bond film with all the elements and a more classic style of storytelling (as opposed to the ever escalating, this time its MORE personal).
You mean the last good bond film
@@Thatguy55595 I do consider casino royale a really good film, though it’s missing too many classic Bond elements that makes the series fun. If every Bond movie was in that tone since 1962 the series would be dead by now. But as a response to DAD’s ridiculousness and as its own film it was good.
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@@piercebrosnan5985 lmao
@@piercebrosnan5985 WTF
Definitely it’s my favorite Brosnan’s film. Amazing location, good scene but first of all: beautiful Sophie 😍
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Sophie Marceau is not only the most beautiful bond girl, she is the most beautiful woman on the planet.
Sophie is 2nd : first is the QBoat 🤣
@@isivip1 Heh heh... I think it may be a draw! :)
Beautiful Bond villain
I have to admit that I have enjoyed Brosnan's Bond far more since he left the role. At the time he seemed too smarmy but his roles in November Man, No Escape and The Foriegner in particular now lend his Bond tenure more grit and empathy. He'd be a fantastic villain too.
I always say his best Bond films were November Man and Thomas Crown Affair.
I'd genuinely love to see Pierce play an older, grizzled Bond.
@@davidjames579 same! I think he'd be even better now. Hell, I'd even like to see Lazenby play a retired Bond who has to come back for one more gig!
@@jerrymanas671 Or Dalton
@@davidjames579 yes! He'd be great too!
Having recently marathoned the Bond series from Dr. No all the way to Die Another Day... yeah, I say The World Is Not Enough is the one that left the biggest impression on me with its pair of villains. Couple that with a great performance by Pierce and the best ever Bond theme song and yeah, TWINE is my favorite Bond movie.
Yeah, it's aged like a fine wine too.
@@niksta007a Totally agree. Nobody else talks about it though! This film was ahead of the curve in giving Bond a more serious & character-driven movie....years before the franchise began trying to keep pace with Nolan's Batman and Jason Bourne.
@@rossmccay Yeah. I don't like his Bond and his movies.
@@rossmccay Skyfall is the only one that resembles a Bond movie. Probably because it's a mixture of Goldeneye and The World is Not Enough. Didn't get what all the fuss around Casino Royale was all about.
And even in them Craig remains Craig.
Wholeheartedly agree! The best Brosnan Bond movie + Song + Bond Girl/Villain (Elektra). And, the best closing scene 'one liner!'
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Have you never seen Goldeneye? 🤦🏾♂️
@@nicholascassadine1294 People are allowed to have different opinions🤦🏻♀️
I love this film, excluding Denise Richards. I just ignore her completely. But otherwise I think it’s really good. A lot of new ideas, M gets involved, amazing female villain, great action. Brosnan is great! It’s in my top 5
One of the most enjoyable in the entire series.
I love this movie but for me Goldeneye is Brosnan’s best by a mile. For me I rank his movies in order of release.
Great job gents. A balanced review. Which is rare, as I often find the vitriol expunged on TWINE perplexing. Sure, it has its flaws, the execution isn't always the best, but I would much rather watch a Bond film that experiments and arguably fails, than a formulaic Bond picture.
Its good, i love all the Bond Films, i personally like Golden Eye. But i agree Pierce Portrayal of Bond in The World is Not Enough is his best presentation of his Bond
Purely subjective, of course, but it's probably my favorite of the whole franchise.
Mine too
Same
I love how probably every Bond film has its fans that will put it at no. 1.
TWINE is firmly in my top 6.
@@k.b.7718 Indeed. I was recently shown that even OHMSS has a devoted little following.
May I ask why? The Bond girl was awful apart from her looks and the villain wasn't so great either.
After seeing this video, I watched the movie for the first time since it came out. It was far better than I remembered, and I think definitely Brosnan's best turn. It had all the classic Bond elements, good music, great skiing scenes, excellent script with good lines, a unique villain, and a formidable female character in Sophie Marceau. In hindsight, it felt like the last classic Bond film with all the right elements. Also, Brosnan himself was finally seasoned and confident in this one, and more worldly than he seemed in other films.
Btw i totally agree with the points in this video, both the good points and the criticisms, especially the lack of payoff with Renard and the excessive gun pointing by Bond (something I've noticed in all the Brosnan films). And usually I love Robert Carlisle. He was far more intimidating and scene-stealing as Rumpelstiltskin in Once Upon a Time.
I said the same in my comment above! I’m not saying its the best Bond film, but its definitely the last in the classic mold.
@@zerominuseleven totally agree!
Yeah, I watched it today... fantastic, all the classic elements in play!
Yeah I feel the same as you. And you're right about the classic elements. There are also some clever references to Majesty's (such as the reveal of the ear that's missing an earlobe being a great reference to Blofeld)
This my favorite Bond film and Dr. No is my second favorite. Just as a movie in general, TWINE is great!
Why dr. No is your second favorite? It's a good film but it has improved greatly after Dr. No.
@@greatwuta I agree it's improved, but I like Dr. No because it's a very raw form of James Bond that I like. It's not too over the top, it's just James Bond doing his job. It just has this classic spy look to it that I like. No gadgets from what I recall, all he had was his ppk. Instead of using gadgets, Bond utilizes what he can for any situation he finds himself in. For example, bond uses a strand of his hair as a way to see if someone was snooping around his room. He also uses powder to see if anyone tampered with his suitcase. You get to see Bond use more of his smarts like when he goes to pour a drink, he thinks twice that it may be poisoned, so he opens a new bottle instead. Cool little stuff like that, I like that kind of stuff, you know? Another good example is when Bond knows someone is on their way to assassinate Bond, so Bond then decorates the room to make it look like he had a few drinks and is in bed, clueless. Only to find it's a trap for professor Dent that leads to my favorite scene in the movie; "you've had your six." You get to see Bond without the gadgets. Then you still get that classic "over the top" look towards the end of the film in Dr. No's secret lair. I really love that film!
@@dreamerjazz352 Well I can't argue with you there.
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@@dreamerjazz352 Well here are my top 5 James Bond films
1. The Spy Who Loved Me
2. For Your Eyes Only
3. You Only Live Twice
4. Tomorrow Never Dies
5. Octopussy
The theme David Arnold uses during the ski scene is one of the most beautiful pieces of music I’ve ever heard in film
Great discussion as always. I have a fondness for this film. I'll admit it's because of what it wanted to be and not so much how it was executed. It wanted to be a FYEO and Daylights with plot twists and character development. Brosnan is great. All of the cast overacts at times. The bullet in the brain story goes nowhere and wasn't needed. Although the script let him down, Carlyle is a strong actor and is a decent henchman. Despite its flaws, I really enjoy this one.
I felt it tried to be more of a dark reprise to OHMSS, what's with the title, the skiing action scenes, the plot about Bond falling for an emotionally messed up rich girl. As for Renard, the bullet in the brain does give us a great moment of insight into his character - his intimate scene with Elektra shows that he's deeply disturbed by being unable to feel anything and living on a borrowed time and he is very conscious about Elektra wanting Bond to be his future replacement, but he can't do anything about it, having fallen for Elektra. That is what made him such a fascinating and even somewhat tragic character for me, even if he is a horrible person.
Brosnan in his prime as Bond in The World is Not Enough..
Thanks for the fans love ❤️
Fantastic video as always! I've always loved this movie. In fact it's very likely my pick for the most underrated movie in the franchise. Goldeneye is my favourite Pierce but TWINE is a very close second.
OP and TWINE are indeed criminally underrated.
Hi, thanks for making me smile with your comments. All starred movies are my favourite. What do you really about in Goldeneye?
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You’re right too about Octopussy!
I think this is Pierce's best performance while i think Goldeneye is his better film. But i agree that as soon as he dives off the balcony after shooting Electra the film loses something. I have a hard time ranking this or TMD higher as I like them both - and they have good and not-so-good points.
TWINE is Brosnan's best portrayal/performance of Bond in my opinion - he plays it with so much grit and looks the part. Goldeneye is the better film overall - a much stronger 3rd act.
I agree.
GoldenEye = Best Bond film from the Brosnan era.
The World Is Not Enough = Best Brosnan performance as James Bond.
Ppl love to talk about Christmas Jones in this movie but always seem to fail to mention the fact that this movie also gave us the first true female Bond villain with a stunning twist, not only did she use her sex as a weapon against 007, it actually worked as her plan almost came off without a hitch and she managed to compromise him with that weakness.
I love that scene where Bond notices the foaming on his fingers. The audience has no idea why his fingers are foaming (and likely Bond has no idea) but the oddness is enough for everyone (Bond, M, the audience) to realize something is wrong.
Thought Brosnan was almost the perfect Bond he had elements of Roger and Sean. The two stand out films for me are Goldeneye and The World Is Not Enough. I went to both Premieres but nothing could beat the experience I had with Goldeneye. That's a special film. Agree about the opening sequence of TWINE it's almost too good. It's so good it builds up your expectation for the film that follows and the film that follows doesn't quite live up to the opening but it's still a great Bond movie and Pierce really did come of age as Bond. Goldeneye is the best film but he was best as Bond in TWINE.
Omg! What was the audience reaction like at 'The World Is Not Enough' premiere?
I always liked this one. Brosnan had specifically requested more basic man-with-a-gun stuff with less OTT dispatching of villains as in TND. They definitely wasted the idea of Renard not feeling pain. They could have chopped all his limbs off and he could have said "Tis but a scratch!"
Great idea, but it may have turned it into an 18 rating, lol
"We'll call it a draw"...
For me, it's his second best after Goldeneye.
It’s better somehow idk how though
I agree with you I turned 9 when Goldeneye came out in 95 and when started becoming a Bond fan as my cousin had all the older Bond films on vhs at the time and we would watch them together but Goldeneye was the first I saw in theaters. The World Is Not Enough was released when had turned 13 and remember seeing that one more in theaters and consider my favorite Brosnan film next to Goldeneye.
Top two best brosnan bond movies
The thumbnail for this is absolutely incredible. I can literally see it as a steelbook!
Love it! Will always be my favourite Bond film. Bond is classy in this.
Hello ,Happy Sunday. Being James Bond has added massively to my fan base . Always stay safe!
Maybe The World Is Not Enough isn't the best of the third 007 installments per Bond actor, but it was the 007 film in which Brosnan hit his stride as James Bond. However, I think the 007 video games contributed to this (especially Nightfire, which came out shortly before Die Another Day).
Just in terms of style, I'm with Joe. That cream linen suit did not work, just because the collar kept popping out in the finale like it was the 1970s in a bad way.
Just watching the movie and taking a break in the middle. Its a favourite for me, real nice tone to it and lovely photography.
My aunt owned the building they shot the boat through the restaurant in London, we went down to the set that day and saw Pierce in the boat on the Thames.
Agree, great film. It shouldn't be over nit-picked as it's enjoyable from start to finish - like an album where you don't have to skip any tracks. Great job Pierce.
PS Great you got to see the Q-Boat in the Thames!! One of the best sequences in the entire series!
I got this ranked #12 best 007 film. So yes I do enjoy The World Is Not Enough. But my favorite Brosnan 007 film is Tomorrow Never Dies.
TAKE THAT SCOTT!
Ha ha, black belts with brown shoes. I thought I was the only one that saw that. I was questioning my own sanity...did I see what I saw?
Top five in the whole series if you ask me. Phenomenal film 👌
It's terrible, GoldenEye is far better.
@@codpro627 that's cool you think that man. This one just works better for me
@@cooper5594 I like 'em both for decent reasons. TWINE is just such a fuckin' great watch!
For me, Tomorrow Never Dies is the best Brosnan movie. But World Is Not Enough is definitely underrated.....GoldenEye isn't as strong as people think.
My favourite and the best Brosnan Bond film. I always felt this way. Terrific story. Great performances especially with Marceau and Brosnan. Beautiful locations. Wonderful balance with action and drama. Even with Denise Richards as a nuclear physicist- I still rank this film very highly.
Hard disagree on Zukovsky in this movie (23:42). He's one of the series best Bond contacts/allies.
1. He was excellent in GoldenEye too but in TWINE he's better incorporated into the story.
2. Unlike Xmas Jones, he provides just the right amount of levity (to a film with an undeniably dark and serious undercurrent).
3. His final scene is terrific. Had Bond never shot him in the knee (as we learn in GoldenEye), Zukovsky never would have been in position to save his life via the cane gun.
The Word is Not Enough was the 1st James Bond movie I went to see on the big screen and it's one of my favorite James Bond movie. At the time, I thought it was Pierce Brosnan's best James Bond movie since GoldenEye.
Agreed with a lot of your criticisms, but you are 100% wrong about Zukovsky. His character is a highlight of the film and better than in Goldeneye
my personal favorite Bond movie. Thanks for reviewing.
Love your reviews keep up the good work this was my first bond in the movies🐻🍿 The world is not enough family motto 😉
This is the best Brosnan Bond movie but my favorite of his is still GoldenEye.
Hi, Happy Sunday. Goldeneye shaped my career. You don't think they's need for a new chapter of Goldeneye?
This is Brosnan"s best go at putting meat on the character of Bond and it's a shame that it went to waste in DAD
And the expanding of Judi Dench's M really started here
And Desmond strangely had a fitting farewell even if not intended
Yes it's Peirce's best effort
I have a feeling Desmond's scene was written that way on purpose, in case he was unable to do any more Bond films (he was 84, and although he died in a car crash, maybe EON knew from his medical that he wasn't well, or just because of his age).
@@davidjames579 yes totally agree and at least we didn't have a naff goodbye from one of the franchise's best loved and long serving actors
@@garybryant1501 Yeah, it's a strangely touching scene, that shows a father like aspect from Q to Bond (and of course Bond had lost his own). Like he knows he's going soon. Actually, they say the Q Boat is for his retirement, so they were nudging that way.
@@davidjames579 I always thought that's why he comes to Bond's aid in LTK and when they share the hotel bedroom I imagine he talked about fishing and sent Bond to sleep 😁
@@garybryant1501 Yeah, despite their bickering, when the chips are down, Q's there for him. Only 5 Bond films in and Q's comment to Bond at his wedding is quite paternal. Yeah, would love there to be a deleted scene of Bond and Q sharing a hotel room! Perhaps someone could voice one over a black screen! :-)
Share a lot of these opinions, great work guys. Robert Carlyle is a terrific British actor and must have been irresistible to the producers after Trainspotting and Full Monty. However, he wasn't a very fleshed out villain and the submarine fight only sticks in my mind because Denise looked terrific in wet clothes.
I totally agree with you. When I first saw this, the beginning made me feel that this is Bond! This was the best of the old school Bonds rolled into 1. Unfortunately, the story kind of falls apart. I feel they should have scrapped the Reinard character. It would've been enough just to have Elektra being the surprise villain. If the story was a Bond girl becoming a villain, I think that would've made a better movie; especially with Pierce hitting his stride with the character.
Best Brosnan for sure as it is pure fun. Sophie Marceau is superb I think and is underrated. Best Arnold score. Good video guys 👏👏
Imho TWINE is so definitely Brosnan's best, TND and GE aren't even close at all.
... And then there's DAD ...
This movie was fire, idc what anyone says.
Yup, it totally rocks - no nit-picking (looking at you David and Beardy bloke) required.
Nothing surpassed Goldeneye, I’d argue. Martin’s superb direction, it both honoured the past but felt genuinely contemporary, not least with that synth led awesome Serra soundtrack to help. It had a fresh innocence, but confidently knew what it was trying to do and I’d say that is was always his best by some way. However, TWINE is certainly his other truly great solid Bond film and a close run second to me, or even on a par, albeit with Pierce being more established and what that brought. It also has that OHMSS or Casino like element or retread to the dynamic with Sophie’s character. That said, with Pierce’s charisma and effortless charm means even the slightly weaker ones are still great and enjoyable.
Not even close to being on par to me. Goldeneye doesn't really have a weak link. The only thing people regularly bring up is the score, but like you I think it's great. TWINE has Denise Richards completely ruining one of the main parts, a villain who feels no pain which is never used, and the visual direction isn't close to the beautiful work Campbell did on Goldeneye. I'm also not a fan of Judi Dench in the field. Just always feels silly. And Goldeneye's pre-credit sequence is leagues better. That boat chase on the Thames should be thrilling, and it's just tension free. In fact, Brosnan's films in general after Goldeneye substituted tension for bombast. David Arnold's relentless scores didn't help with their constant blaring horns over 90s beats. On the plus side, Brosnan and Marceau are both great. But that's about it for me.
The weak link with GoldenEye is the horrible and abysmal Serra score.
Love TWINE, I think it is Brosnan's best. Love the PTS "I am giving you the opportunity to walk out with your life", villain Sophia Marceau and Renard the henchman are great, I love how they send off Q, really great soundtrack, always enjoy seeing Valentin in the Bond films, I also do not think Denise Richards is as bad as some people say. When Bond first meets Christmas, that scene in the underground site is very good. TWINE is a top ten for me.
I think all of Brosnan films are some of the best ever Bond films - all except Die Another Day!! They are easy to follow, fast and super stylish. You can get bored watching some of the Roger Moore ones etc but in Brosnan's films there is never a dull moment!
Goldeneye is my favorite Bond film with Majesties. World is in my top ten. But love Brosnan in Goldeneye. But this film is great. My favorite pre title with Living Daylights and Octopussy. Elektra King one of my favorite villians, Trevelyan still my obsolute favorite villian. M is very well done in this. My only blemish was Christmas Jones, and Rennard a let down, after the championing him up. There was little build up with Brad Whittaker, yet i love his confrontation with Bond. The whole obbsession with war strategy, and how he would have won wars, was so cool. And confronting Bond with strobes, various weaponry was great. Rennard on sub was anticlimatic. But love Brosnan as Bond.
But, no GE is his best. Best Bond villian in Trevelyan, tied best henchman in Onatopp, tied with Oddjob. General Orumov is great. Boris is great as comedic villian. Coltranes Zikovsky is great ally. Only blemish is lack of score. Tank scene score is great.
GoldenEye is by far the best film of Brosnan, TWINE was poor.
It’s odd you ignored talking about how bad Denise Richards was. You guys also talked about the score yet ignored the title song.
Still got the single by Garbage on cd.
@@salmonsandwich3183 Yeah, I’ve seen Temple of Doom several times. Capshaw played her part really well. Capshaw can actually act. Richards can’t.
This is a great film. Then my 3 favourite Bonds in no particular order Brosnan, Moore and Dalton.
Let’s go!! Love these guys and your views and opinions and personal experiences with all these marvelous films. Thanks for all the content you guys produce
always enjoyed this movie. this was the first movie that i remember watching as a kid
The first Bond movie I ever saw was License to Kill (Licence?) because my dad would watch it when it was on TV. I saw GoldenEye when we rented it from Blockbuster Video and I liked it, but as a kid, I feel like the N64 game overshadowed it with my friends (again, as a kid). The World is Not Enough was my first Bond film that I saw in theaters. I loved it when I saw it even though it was a little more plot-heavy and soap-opera-ish than I was expecting and I admit I didn't fully understand the plot at the time. The theme song is my favorite of all the Bond movies. And 28 year old Denise Richards was the most beautiful woman ever to my teenage self.
Just had a thought the 2 villains r like the 2 villains in dark knight rises. Renard being bane and Electra being talia al ghul. Bane feels no pain like Renard you think he's the main villain until the switch when you find out it's actually talia just like Electra.
Excellent comparison and insight sir 👍🏻🙂
Nolan is a big Bond fan, so I guess he ripped that off. Along with the opening sequence resembling Licence To Kill's. From the books, the Miranda Tate/Talia thing is like what happens with Bond and Nina Bismaquer/Blofeld in For Special Services. With the revealed villainess, being the heir to her father's criminal empire, and someone the hero has killed.
Bane is a lot better than Renard as a villain but Talia didn't really need to be in the film as that twist happens so late it's one complication too many for me at least
@@jamesatkinsonja Sadly I twigged early in the film. Tate seemed such a nothing character for Marion Cotillard to play. Also she'd just been a major character in Nolan's last film. I thought, she's not doing very much, she has to be a villain. Probably Talia.
This was prime Brosnan
I remember prior to Desmond Llewelyn's death that it was reported that John Cleese was hired to be Q's assistant, and in later films replace Llewelyn, when he wanted to retire from acting (he was 85 when he died). I'm not sure if TWINE was intended to be Llewelyn last, but it seemed like it was set up to maybe be, or suggest it. I think Llewelyn may have made DAD his last. Funnily enough, with the series rebooting after that, Llewelyn and Cleese wouldn't have come back. Even if Dench did.
Pierce has been in films that have got good reviews, including Bond films. But he also has had misfortune of being in films with bad reviews which overshadow potentially great performances that he was giving.
i remember Calvin Dyson saying that :Denise Richards stated in her autobiography "The Real Girl Next Door" that she did not have a happy experience on the film. She claimed that the director made no effort to build any comradery on set or give her much direction. She felt very lonely and unwanted (as her casting was Executive Meddling from MGM) and depressed at the negative reviews she received.' I do feel a bit sorry for her as the part is badly written and she was set up to fail in a way
@@bonghunezhou5051 Similar to Teri Hatcher before and Hallie Berry+Michael Madson afterwards, MGM wanted Bond do do better in America and applied pressure for these actors to be in the films. Apparently they told Eon they either had to cast Denise Richards as Jones or Sharon Stone as Electra [which would have given the twist away instantly].
@@bonghunezhou5051 I think Denise probably thought this was going to make her an A-lister which made the actual experience even worse. I think she could have done a good job if they'd cast her in the right role but this tarnished her career.
22:21 we lost David Arnold from Bond as Sam Mendes wanted to use his regular composer for his films and that was also the case for NTTD [though the original choice was eventually replaced by Hans Zimmer]
"Slap!" "SLAP!" ...ya it does have a soap-opera-ish feel.
Nice editing. 😁
this is also where neal purvis and robert wade came in as the writers from here onwards to bring the m and Bond relatioship up a tone . Did you guys notice Skyfall almost stealing the attack on MI6 from this movie?? i feel this movie did it better
You hit the nail on the head here. People underestimate this movie. Purvis & Wade's first...but the film's pros outweigh the cons. And the strengths feel like a point-by-point warmup for the best aspects of Craig's era.
If this movie has soap opera moments then the Craig era is almost entirely soap opera.
Even if Renard could not feel pain he could still get physically fatigued. Even though I loved Brosnan as Bond, his thin size made these fights less believable (one of the few things I like better about Craig....and yeah, I know, Bruce Lee was skinny, but he still has defined muscles and he was a clear master of a martial art).
I agree the ending kinda pestered out.
I liked Sophie Marceau and Robbie Coltrane. Denise Richards brought the movie down if being critical (when I watched it initially and years after it didn't distract me from the movie too much, but reading all the criticism maybe has me wincing when seeing her scenes now).
I thought the Garbage theme was forgettable, but not awful.
Overall I think it's a really good Bond movie. I still prefer it to rewatching the dour Craig films.
On the subject of Renard and his "superpower", around the same time that this movie came out there was a Dateline spot about a child that was born with a rare genetic defect that he couldn't feel pain. And I remember seeing this in the theater and had mentioned that to my Dad afterwards about the condition, and asked him, "In a James Bond world, if say, the Soviets had child with this rare genetic disorder, would they have trained them and harden them to some kind of super soldier?" He gave a long winded answer of how the Soviet system would use any resource to their advantage... Blah, Blah, Blah, Yadda, Yadda, Yadda, basically Yes they would. I asked him "Why didn't do that instead of some bullet wound to the head?" He said, "I don't have a clue"
I’ve always thought in the opening sequence after Bond has jumped out of the Swiss banker’s office with the chord around his waist, he should have said “Bad trade” to the onlookers.
It was totally Brosnan's best! The only element that brought the film down, was the horrible miscast of Denise RIchards!! UGH
I just re-watched "The World is not Enough" again last night on blu-ray, and I actually really enjoyed the experience. I had more fun with this film than I ever did for some reason. Brosnan was a very good Bond. Robert Carlyle's Renald is the weak spot in this film. The character wasn't thought through by the writers or director. Renald really isn't even needed in this story and the movie may have been better without Renald completely. I actually think Brosnan is at his best Bond in Die Another Day, however, even though the rest of that movie pretty much stinks, Brosnan is great in Die Another Day. But Pierce Brosnan's best Bond movie is definitely "GoldenEye".
Yess I am ready for this video. Just finish TWINE
What state are you from? Being a huge bond fan, I'd love to be in one of your videos!
for me the best Brosnan's Bond is 'Tomorrow never dies'.
- good plot
- MacGuffin bringing to mind the one from 'For your eyes only'
- chopper chasing motorcycle
- great (underrated) villain toying with the trope of 'world domination' (he even uses this phrase!)
- great garage chase
- diving scene
it cleverly used known Bond tropes, referred to them and brought interesting stuff.
TWINE is far better
I loved this movie. I can't rank Brosnan's movies as he is great in this role. For me he has a right balance of everything. I love Brosnan as Bond. He was amazing and I am so so glad he got an opportunity to play Bond.
I definitely think this is Pierce's best performance as Bond. Say what you will about the World Is Not Enough, personally I like the movie, but Pierce is a highlight in the movie.
I would have loved to see Brosnan play Bond using the current writing. Would be a cool take to bring him back somehow either as a villian or even M.
8:50 The gesture with the stiff wrist/hand is almost certainly to show off his watch - product placement
Goldeneye is my fave Brosnan Bond film
One of the most underrated bond movies in my opinion
I always thought they could have made more of Robert Carlyle's imperviousness to pain. Having lost everything, we should have had a scene of him walking toward Bond, fully in the knowledge that he was done, and good for all but death. Bond could be seen to shoot him in attempt to stop him, but it would of course be ineffective. Renard just keeps walking. Bond lets off more bullets and all it does is slow him down. As Renard creeps to a slow, soon-to-be-dead stagger, he could have said "I can't feel any of this. But then, neither can you," as an obvious reference to Bond's cold, assassin-like mindset, having just put down Elektra. The point wouldn't be that Renard all of a sudden gained a conscience, but that deep down maybe Bond is even more impenetrable than he is.
But, y'know, a fight on a submarine is cool too.
Yeah, they underused RC in this film; one of my few criticisms of it TBH.
I think the twist is that Renard is more of a romantic monster, a mopey guy who has succombed to Elektra.
TWINE has the best locations & cinematography
I have always had a soft spot for Goldeneye as it was the first new Bond film to come out when I was a kid and able to go see them. I geneuinely thought it nailed the tone and action. Plus it had Sean Bean and the fantastic tie-in game. Every subsequent Brosnan film felt worse at the time. However, it's so long since I've seen any of them that I certainly wouldn't be surprised to find it hasn't aged well at all (I started watching through all the Bonds failry recently but gave up at the first Moore film - wow, did i not like his style).
Where did u get that art for the thumbnail?
Check out Taffin and the Fourth Protocol from the late 80s.
Did they forget to mention the title song by Garbage?
Best Brosnan Film.....Goldeneye. Best villain.... 006
Sophie Marceu was excellent, Denise Richards not so much. I’ve always liked this one. Brosnam was born to play this role. The producers and directors are to blame for the fantasy style
I like Goldeneye a lot, but TND is Brosnan's best, in my opinion. TWINE comes in third. The first half of DAD comes in fourth and the last half is a cartoon.
There's a deleted scene where they go more into Electra's background story.
The lack of payoff for Renard's pain thing is disappointing, and the final fight in the sub along with Denise Richards in general really bring this film down. I completely agree that there are certain elements that hold it back from being truly great.
Unfortunately the script as well as shooting were super rushed for this and TND; so much wasted potential!
Brosnan openly complained about how these films were handled in an interview for this movie, he seemed quite frustrated with Barbara and Michael!
This was not supposed to be Desmond Llewelyn's last appearance as Q.
This film's score is great, and I think it has the best pre-title sequence of the whole franchise!
the script was filled with fresh/unique ideas it's just the writing clunky in some cases. also I think the director didn't knew how to shoot these kind of big franchise movies. before this, the director Michael Apted was mostly known for documentries or soap opera (which is no surprising, since as you said, this movie featured some soap opera elements). the action scenes are kinda lackluster because of his lack of experience in action movies. I mean don't get me wrong, most of the action isn't that bad. it's just some of the stunts feels pre-orchestrated, like something straight out of some stunt show in universal studios.. with that said this movie is definitely the best one from Brosnan, his era should've had been ended with this movie instead of that garbage Die Another Day.
and as for the Bond girl Sofie Marceau, so I don't think she gets enough praise. first of all she is a fantastic actress (she saved the movie from being a abomination in the hands of Denise Richards) and her character was very interesting as well. the film tries to show it as Renard is manipulating Elektra. but it turns out she *was* manipulating him. she never had any stockholm syndrome, it was all staged, she did it so she could use his power to take down everyone in their way, and in the end she would take him down, so she can get a monopoly on oil in that region. she is definitely one of the greatest Bond girls ever in my opinion.
A fair analysis. Many solid points. The "stockholm syndrome" thing is great. It's a giant red herring meant to mislead the audience. Overall, would you rate this movie above GoldenEye?
@@jambler15 no, I think Goldeneye is still superior (it's literally one of the most popular bond entries ever). it has a certain nostalgia to it. but I will put TWINE in Brosnan's second best run
Love brosnons first 3 films.
I loved Brosnan he seemed to get a good mix of Rogers whimsical comedy and Sean's toughness if only he was given the material to work with
So you went back in time to have this discussion with THE Orson Welles!?!
I found so elegant to Brosnan... My favorite Bond
My favorite From Brosnan is tomorrow never dies
This had the potential to be a great Bond movie but a lot of the plot elements feel unfulfilled and leave something to be desired. The action is also a bit lackluster other than the pre-title sequence. But it has some good drama, I'll give it that.
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Martin Campbell should have directed this movie because he did a great job with goldeneye and because i felt like something was missing this film should have lasted 30 minutes longer so that we can understand the story everything went fast. i think they should have started the Pierce Brosnan era with tomorrow never dies, the world is not enough as the second bond movie and goldeneye as the third bond movie goldeneye it's my favorite during the brosnan era and it had everything to be an outstanding movie because of the betrayal of Alec Trevelian. who was an ex agent of the MI6
Of course Brosnan did have a perfect Bond movie. The first one.
I always prefer to say positive rather than negative things. Having said that, I think Goldeneye and (and for all its faults and the invisible car) Die Another Day were the best of the Brosnan's. I will be interested to hear whether other people could get emotionally involved in TWINE. I couldn't but it was probably just me. Looking forward to the debate amongst Joe, David and the Bond community. Thanks guys
Yes.
I feel goldeneye is the better film but Pierce has his best performance here. He is a lot more at home in the role.