Sub 7kg All-Road Bliss
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- In the quest to make my Open U.P. the absolute one bike to rule them all, I needed to fill that gap between my beefy gravel wheels and my Extralite "road" wheels. Light, robust and cheap:is... can it be done?
Farsports Feder Wheels:
They keep changing the website, and showing different weight, so can't give you an exact link to my particular config, but look you for:
Rims: FSD30CM-28T-SUD
Hubs: DT Swiss 180 Centerlock
Nipples: Sapim black Alloy
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Rene Herse Bon Jon Extralite
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For anyone interested, did a livestream trying to quiet down the EXP freehub. If nothing else it also shows how easy it is to do basic freehub maintenance.
ruclips.net/video/Fb_k1gYVA-Q/видео.html
It’s absurd how underrated your channel is. Your videos are easily my most anticipated. I don’t know how the one thumbs down viewer sleeps at night.
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Your videos are in the same vain as trace velo. Entertaining, thought provoking and informative. I have been using lightbicycle wheels for some time now and very impressed at the quality and value.... So much that I am looking to replace all my wheels with lightbicycle.
Totally agree! My favourite cycling channels are:
1- ROJ
2- GCN
3- Hambini :D
4- OZ Cycle
5- rest of them
is it underrated?
New to the channel as of today, and honestly i couldnt agree more! outstanding production, some humour, and proper tech. :)
The bike is beautiful, but the thing that keeps me clicking are those incredible roads. You live in cycling heaven. Please show us more Japan.
I like your movies. I built the Open U.P. bike inspired by you. My best bike ever. Your channel is my favorite bike channel on the RUclips.
i really love your videos, because I always thought I was OCD about my bike, but you are taking it to a whole new level. Great content and great quality of video material. Keep up the good work!
Been following you for a good while now and I continue to be excited when it's bike vid day. Another excellent blog from your self, and by the way I love the way you show the Japanese countryside. It's stunning. Thank you.
I received some farsports wheels a couple of the days ago, the quality is outstanding
Brilliant backdrop for another awesome video. As we in Sthn Australia enter into a freezing winter, I’m jealous. Peace✌️
Agree pretty much on every key point here regarding the tires: yes, the René Herse Bon Jon Pass Extralight ride very smooth (I ride them with inner tubes, though). I like them more than the Panaracer Gravelking Slick which is way less supple and also quite a bit bouncy. But indeed: I'd also wouldn't trust the Extralights for any prolonged bits on unsealed surface. And yes: any tire supplier should strive for a tan sidewall like René Herse. That brown of the Panaracers really doesn't cut it. Not by a long shot.
I like the loud free hub sounds because on the bike path people hear them and move over. I prefer not to yell, “On your left”
yeah, but when you are on a solo ride in nature less loud hubs are way better
@@8paolo96 no thanks. A loud hub always sounds badass, same with metallic rotors when they're wet.
@@jaspreetsidhu5708 there are times that people want quiet bikes. For example, sneaking up on wildlife.
@@mykytajex2248 odds are the wildlife has already smelt you before they hear your free hub sound, unless there's a draft downwards from the animal.
Great setup...with a loud FreeHub no need to have a bell on the bike approaching other people...they’ll hear You just drifting behind them 😂😎
Great video - I'm running Industry Nine I9.35s ($1350 grams for the pair actual weight) with Bon Jon Extra Lights. It's my absolute favorite set of wheels for all of the reasons you gave - go (almost) anywhere - do (almost) anything - very reliable, and great performance.
Are these the carbon?
@@johnwilliamson9453 yes sir!
You are always an inspiration. Thank you!
I’ve built my bicycle using your ideas and instructional videos.
Almost as happy as you, except it’s almost flat where I’m riding.
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"loud freehubs are bane of my existence" I hear you, You got a subscriber today
"as expected though, the extralight casing was leaking air like a fishnet stocking...."
lolz
7:29
Another fine entertaining video, Tobias. Just for the benefit of others reading the comments - these carbon rims from Xiamen, China are sold by dozens of companies, some with American brand decals on them. I've personally built up 8 wheels using rims with a similar spec to these. They were some of the best rims I've built among thousands of wheel builds. The finished wheels have very even tension, and are true and round. I've ridden a set similar to this on my Canyon for 3000 miles and they never needed truing. Too bad about the Rene Herse tires, they ride great but they always leak no matter what sealant Jan says to use this week...
Rene Herse EL only tend to leak at first. Once you have sealant in them and ride a bit they're fine. They seem to seal especially quick with Orange endurance.
Todd Donovan Tubes. Just run tubes ffs. They work great!
Loved this video! I am going with Hunt X-wide Carbon wheels and the slightly wider Barlow Pass tires - all fitted to an OPEN WI.DE. I have some beefy Pirelli Centurato’s on 650b wheels for bike packing and rougher gravel. Think the new 700C set up will be really nice for the type of ride you are talking about. Hope Japan opens soon as I can’t wait to get back to Nagano. Again, great content and presentation - fun!!!
I had very hard to pop the Bon Jon tires on my Zipp303S too, even with easylube from schwable. Fortunaly I followed your trick with a tube to pop the tire first. My all black bike looks great with these tan wall tires. I put 100ml in each tires, the front one holds air pretty well, the rear one looses pressure after a few hours. I only rode 10km, the tires may need more km to seal properly.
Any updates?
@@sanynava Hi, after a while the tires hold air pretty well, for the winter season I removed the sealant as I don't ride them. They hold air even without sealant. I will put fresh sealant as soon as I will ride them again. They roll very good. On my rims they turned out to be 37-38mm wide, a bit wider than 35mm announced (extra light + tubeless + 23mm internal width.
I feel the same way about my bikes. I've got the Alligator cable housing on my 6.5 kg cervelo RS. But it is an XS size with 650c wheels. Not a lot of options for fast tires bigger than 25mm. Hence, it is now my dedicated wahoo kicker bike. Now, I ride my Norco Search XR with 1350 gm carbon wheels/babyshoe pass extra light tires and my 20 ounce stainless insulated mug (292 grams when empty, 900 grams when full) of delicious micro-roasted coffee(fits perfectly in a feed bag). Supple life / weight-weenie = never-ending journey(hopefully ;) Another nice video.
Have a set of 50mm Farsport wheels/Dt swiss 350 hubs with over 10000km and have been faultless also put a Farsport full disc and 88mm front on my TT bike. Highly recommend Farsport wheels.
Haha! Thanks for doing what I was thinking; that is, pump in double the amount of sealant into my Switchback Hill UL too on my front. Well, for the rear (WTB Byways) too because both of them are losing air. I had just replaced the first set of tires on my Bokeh after 10,000 road kms and still having problems with air loss. Good thing I have a new bottle of Stans!
Have fun!
Nice!! #Coffeeoutdoors 😌. I've been brainstorming on the optimal coffee setup for all-day dirt rambles... 🤙
Never thought I'd hear a 'not all about the weight' message from you 🤪
I'm full of surprises ;)
Hilarious Tobias at his best....makes me homesick for Japan....no flights = damn it!!
my scale's favorite channel
Fab stuff ROJ! Thinking about going tubeless but still on the fence. Can't wait for this lockdown stuff to be over then I can get out again into the hills around Ome and maybe Chichibu! Peace!!
great vid as always. it was a choice between Light Bicycle and Farsports, and I ordered a pair from LB, should be shipping this week.
Well, In my case as a custom bike painter. I suggest sanding the bike's paint down to carbon fiber and clear coating it! Now there are steps in between coats from carbon to clear. But to shed that weight that's what should be done. Add some of the same blue color for accent here and there! Sweet vids!
NEVER!!!😉
Cheers mate !
@@ridesofjapan lol
If you commute in a city loud hubs are great :)
Knowing that undrilled rimbed weighs more than drilled rimbed+tubeless tape is a thorn in your mind, isn't it. It's gnawing at you. Making you itch.
Nope, does not even register... same level as stripping paint of the frame ;)
Thanks for bringing up these wheels from Farsports as I haven`t had them on my radar on my search for affordable carbon wheels. Since your video was released I bought my own pair at wheelsfar and they´re running flawless on my gravelbike. Seating the tires in the wheels was a pain in the..., as it was a very tight fit with between the No Hole Rim and the Wtb Resolute tires, but I knew what to expect after your video. Delivery was much longer as I had expected (approx. 1,5 months due to current situation) but it was okay form my point of view and the seller tried to keep up with information once i managed to get in contact with them. The weight was pretty accurate as they claimed the pair on 1300 g (+-15g) and I weigth them on 1311 g so within tolerance.
Looking forward to see more stuff like that without digging holes in my pockets;)
Love your channel.
I like the way you make your videos.
It's nice and fun to watch.
Cheers!🙏
Awesome, fun videos, please keep it up!
Kind of disappointed for not showing us the sound of the DT Hub especially after complaining about the loudness
Otherwise good video as always, keep it up!
I on a mission to end this silly “listen to this freehub sound” video trend ;)
Just search dt Swiss 180 on RUclips.... it is very loud 😳😳😳😳😳
I almost went with Farsports but ended up with the WR35 from Lightbicycle. I also run the Rene Herse Bon Jon Extralights on my OPEN and they are amazing as all-road tires. Orange endurance sealant tends to deal with the leaky sidewalls a bit faster than other sealants.
I beginning to suspect that as well... seal smart doesn’t seem much better than Stans.
Does it colour your sidewalls orange when it does leak?
You make me appreciate my XC mtb on narrow tires. I fear no road, trail, or goat path!
Also, bravo on the channel, always interesting, funny, and enjoyable. If i had a sister in japan, id try to introduce you to her. Thats a good compliment.
I hope you picked-up the micro wind reducer you dropped at 11:18? 😅 Great vid again btw!
Your channel and videos are excellent. Keep up the great work! Merci beaucoup!
I pick that tires last year and I love it .they fit any situation on yours day long trip/weekend.
those disc rotors are mad fresh!
good timing i just got a set of Easton R90 'do it alls'
More cool stuff coming oh boy can’t wait! 😎👍
Farrsport!!! I guessed it from the teaser.
Always the best videos! Thanks !
Love your videos man always make me laugh i have been really hooked on my revolt all road bike ride club 2x a week and hit dirt on weekends
The dialogues between you-presenter and you-editor are hilarious!👏
You should probably invest in a Topeak JoeBlow Booster or similar, if you don't have access to a compressor. Save yourself the hassle of seating the tyres.
My Rene Herse Barlow Pass and Steilacoom’s I went with stan’s no tube regular version 3oz and 3 months in still no need for more sealant, no leaks, even with going through some single track on the Steilacoom’s (these are endurance version). I left each tire laying down for an hour on each side before using. Going with 3oz instead of 2oz definitely sealed the tires better. Definitely my favorite riding tires. And the endurance version for the extra 30g weight can go through some tough single track terrain without issue while still being very supple.
very nice scenery
Best day ever when roj posts a video
Finally something that won’t bring the bank!! Good to see you satisfied with those new carbon hoops!
Conti tubeless gp 5000 are air tight! They have a inner butyl layer and need the f...... g fluid only for puncture resistance. And they are a pleasure to install even on a non-taped-spokehole-free wheelset from Lightbicycle. That’s the definition of being really tubeless. I hate messing around with leaking tires and the fluid. 😎
Cool wheelset review. But the GravelKing slicks 32c tires do not weep at all on my bike, so definitely it's much more to my liking. THey are correctly made for tubeless.
Yep, as nice as they ride, had it not been for the looks I would hands down get another set of Gravelkings instead. #notareview
Super cool Bro, way to go, I like your videos
Nice video! I can also recommend Nextie rims. 31mm outer and 22mm (24mm with the hookless version I think) inner width, pretty light and great design. Weight should be similar. I build some with internal nipples (because I like the look) and Newmen hubs, very pleased with the wheels.
Lovely done
GKs FTW. This reminds me of the Pari Moto. I would not run these tubeless. The GKs are about the same weight and don’t leak except for the myriad of holes they eventually collect. ;-). Totally with you on this sort of "all-road" setup. I am running your other wheels (well my wheels, you know what I mean the XMC1200s) with 42mm GKs, as my everyday go anywhere wheels and I love this slick/slightly fat setup. Still noticeably slower than my ENVE 3.4s though.
I wonder why they don't make tubeless (e.g. Mavic UST) gravel tires, as opposed to "tubeless ready" (for sealant). If they made gravel tubeless tires with a butyl layer on the inside, it would remove the need for sealant (like a car tire). It is true that there would be no sealant to fix a puncture, but if you do, you could just plug it. With a butyl layer, there would be a weight saving from not having to put sealant in, in addition to simplifying installation. For rims like these, with no spoke holes, it would probably work fine. Personally, after seeing the weeping, I would just put in a latex tube and be done with it!
this vid was exactly what i needed on a rainy day. Beautiful bike though. If it could cook a meal i would marry it
Seems like the Perfect Ride 😍
Another fantastic video.
Your videos really make me wanna build a new bike
video full of gold nuggets. approved✔
I have a set of farsport wheels on my gravel bike and they are insane, not just for the money either!
For the moment I can only dream about owning this kind of bike setup.
@ 8:32 WTF !!! Is that your commuterbike ?? The one you told us you were never going to show .... ??!!? (Oh, by the way, great video as always, thanks!)
I think so too😂
Great video as always! But shock horror - you weighed those tires with elastic bands still on them ??? !!! ... oh no, start over ....;)
great video as always.
Awesome video👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾thx😀😀
With you being an every gram matters kinda guy I thought your maths would be outstanding!
Math, spelling, language.... I have many weak point 😬
Rides of Japan Shoes & pedals should be added to that list 😉
Have you looked at Ultradynamico tires at all? They're essentially RH Extralights with a touch of knob. Come in a race casing and "normal" casing.
Nope, was not an option on these wheels since I wanted slicks
at least your pronunciation of sapim is better than most English speakers :)
Another video on you (I watched your morning routine video!) would be interesting - you are a gravel rider in what seems to be a paradise for gravel and adventure riding! Japan doesn’t have many expats and I can’t place your accent. Are you there for work? Do you speak Japanese? Is there a big cycling scene in Japan?
Actually, japan is not a paradise for gravel, it’s very few and far between. It is however a paradise for riding paved mountains.
I’m Swedish, working here yes.
This video could have done with more numbers 😁
I love the look of tan walls. Obvs.
DuraAce discs are probably heavier because the braking demand for road bikes is much higher (generally 4x or more) than MTB. So best of luck to you.
I'm surprised you haven't touched on the pricing/durability of the Compass/RH tires, but they are light ;) Just setup some Gravel King Slicks myself, roll really well and have decent traction. Time will tell on the durability ... Wish you good luck on those wheels, i'm sure there gonna be awesome, just hope you never have to replace a spoke!
That TB Wilier is a really nice bike and very hard to find, take care of it.
Great informative vid! How do the 35mm compare to a 32mm on tarmac? Any noticeable difference in effort? Deciding between 32mm & 35mm for my rides which will generally be 4hr rides on 80% smooth road and 20% broken roads. 🤔
Totally awesome video!
ROJ, Nice vid dude! Yeah Farsport make some great wheels. By the way what helmet are you wearing in this vid?
Cheers mate, helmet is the Met trenta
Whats your strava! Interested to see where you're riding. Great video again. love the idea of the 'evolving build'. thats pretty much how my bike build life goes too.
You can find the link on the Channel page (or the "about" tab of you're on mobile)
Love it!
Again, a Rides of Japan Video that made me order something carbony ;) Pulled the trigger on the absurdly well priced 30/30 gravel wheelset. will be half a kilo less rotating mass on my trusty steel tourer. and i always said to myself, that touring bike is immune to the disease...hmmmm.
I’m sorry mate 😜
@@ridesofjapan its all for a better cause. cheers :D
Maybe applying a thin coat of Aquaseal to the sidewalls may help with how leaky the tyres are.
Never heard of that before... would be interesting to try
You could just vulcanize the holes
you mean something like bondcrete? which is basically pva glue or wood glue? waterproof too, interesting
What are your thoughts on Caden wheels? I'm a bit impressed by their tubular wheels, (just from reading the specs) less so with the clinchers and tubeless wheels. At 1020 grams for a set, they are about 40 grams heavier than the new Extralite tubulars, but they also cost half as much as the Extralites. And then I get to learn how tubs ride, and I can explore those fabled silk tubulars. :)
BTW, a THM Tibia stem is on the way, step one in project "Keep the weight of the Strada decent". :)
I've went down the tubular route before and it's simple way to drop some weight for sure... In the end I sold my set because I was not prepared to deal with carrying a spare tubular and the headache that it involves getting a puncture (In my opinion/experience is much more work than Tubeless)
A climbing tubular set has to be below 1000g before I even think it worth thinking about :P
The tubular tires usually end up a bit heavier though depending on size.... can you even get 30+mm tubs nowadays?
Regarding, Caden, I can't say much... never tried or seen them in real life. In-house hubs never makes me very exited about brands like this. Not saying they are bad, just my own preference, I think the hubs are way more important than the rims now that I live in disc brake land, and today I would no personally would not get anything below a DT240 hub.
@@ridesofjapan it's actually that allegedly wonderfully supple ride of tubs, and particularly silk tubs, that intrigues me. And I'm old enough to remember when nobody had a saddle bag on their road bike, but everyone had a spare tub strapped to the saddle. Oh, and the Challenge Strada Bianca and the Challenge Gravel are available as 36 mm tubs, but unfortunately not with silk casing, the 30 mm Strada Bianca has that.
Also, don't the Extralite wheels have in-house tubs? :)
Finally back at it again!
Mate, I thought those insects at the end were going either eat you alive on the spot or fly off with you! Those wheels look great, definitely want! And, the spot where you had your coffee sure looked familiar!
One of a million roads you first introduced me to mate.
Jyomine
Yep, recognized the hut and the view! That is a hell of a great climb! And, leads to some great descents!!
Hey Rides of Japan, please, when a long term review about the wheelset ? cheers
Not ridden enough on them to give a long term review (I don't really make "reviews" anyway hehe). 2020 was a year spent mostly indoor so only 2000km logged on the wheels... but not issues this far on the wheels themselves.
@@ridesofjapan Thank you so much for your feedback ! And bravo for your vids :)
After buying a salsa warroad for the backroads here in rural WI, I’m happy to see how capable your bike is on 35c tires as that’s the limit on my bike for 700c and I’ve been having some FOMO seeing the clearance on more gravel specific frames. I’m currently running 34c byways but was curious why you choose slicks for an all road setup? Love your channel!
Even though it’s “all road”, that still means over 90% tarmac, the lack of unpaved roads here is no joke ;)
Cheers!
First, I think your videos are amazing (very cinematic, great typography, soundtrack, AND informative), I became a subscriber.
I was not a weight weenie but after binging on your vids, I've caught the bug and I want a Farsport 30 mm road only wheelset for my 2018 Trek Domane SL 5. I'm new to the game and can't decide between the rims w/ nipple holes or w/o holes. Also having a hard time deciding between DT Swiss 240 and Carbon Ti. I'm a feather wt. at 125 lbs (57.7 Kg) and like to go on longish hilly rides. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks! 🙏
P Kim cheer mate!
it’s all down what your priorities are, if you want something light and that’s a priority, the carbon Ti is unbeatable.
Holes or no holes there not really any benefit apart from not needing to use tape, on the other hand of you are prone to breaking spoked it will make it harder to repair.
@@ridesofjapan Thx for your input. Well then, I'm all in. Let's go w/ Carbon Ti as long as it's fairly low maintenance and sturdy. I'll go w/ no-hole rims, sounds simpler to set up (this will be my first tubeless!) And, luckly I've never broken a spoke in my life :-)
Nice video, super nice channel! Glad that GP Lama sent me over your way.
Quick question: What's the cycling jersey that you are wearing in the video - looks beautiful?
Bike Toshi cheers mate!
it’s a void cycling jersey from last season. Unfortunately they been trough a bankruptcy this years and while they are up an running again, then don’t have international shipping anymore, just to a few lucky countries. Voidcycling.com
Rides of Japan Thank you! And lucky me - Void is available in Germany 😃
The views man... the views.
Great vid as always! Why don't you use the Shimano PD-ES600 pedals? They are the lightest SPD model and they ride great from personal experience. Great for saving grams for when clipping-in speed is not of the most importance.
I rather use my Dura ace pedals in that case.
Cheers!
Highly entertaining 🤟
For really good sealant coverage just bounce your inflated tire/wheel on the ground like a basketball while rotating it
Continental recommends brushing the inner side with sealant before actually installing them.
You could probably just ride on them too
@@fatkid8523 that would be too easy.
RoJ,
Can you make a clip on you bike’s measurements?
Reach and difference in saddle-handlebar levels would be really appreciated.
Rene herse tires made in Japan and reccomends smart seal.. Who makes tires in Japan? Panaracer. I think ultradynamico is also made by Panaracer.
Nice one
Looks like something nice to have 😍
Great videos, keep up the great work! I'm having a challenge deciding between the Farsports and Light Bicycle. I was wondering what was your deciding factor to go with Farspots? Also, any thoughts of using Tubulito tubes with Rene Herse tires? I've heard when you take sealant weight into account they can be pretty competitive on weight and that would remedy the leaking side wall issue.
At the time I was deciding, the farsports had the better weight combined with the exact rim dimensions I wanted and 180EXP hub. They both seem to change their lineup a lot, so the configurations might be different today.
I don't use tubeless for weight reasons, it's only for the self-healing puncture abilities... tubolitos are in my spares kit.
that being said, I would not get another pair of extralight Rene herse tires today if riding tubeless... too much hassle. (I retired the ones in the video, back to gravelkings)
Cheers!
Im also looking at the Feder 35 with carbon ti hub. Although cheap, need to look around the latest offering by others. Zipp brought their price down, 303s is cheaper but almost 300g heavier. 303 FC is about 100g heavier for not alot more, especially after farsports being taxed at import to many countries. 303 FC is abit deeper and wider, and come with lifetime warranty. Hmmm.... Decision decision.... May be i should fork out abit more and get the carbon-ti 338c.....