HARLEY DAVIDSON MOTORCYCLE GETS A NEW TRANSMISSION
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- PART 2 OF A TRANSMISSION REPLACMENT. INSTALLING A NEW TRANSMISSION CASE AND A 6 SPEED GEAR PACK ASSEMBLY, INSTALLING SEALS AND FINALLY COMPLETING PROJECT. 2016 STREET GLIDE, FLHX 103
Kevin Baxter and Brad (The Wizard) are my favorite V-Twin builders ... Awesome video Brad 👏👏
I am fascinated with the internals of Harley and I appreciate your in depth videos with your work. With that, I do know my limitations and go to my mechanic when needed. Thanks for the quality entertainment.
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I just love watching your videos. Very informative and detailed but not saying I could do any of those after watching it. It just shows that when you get a really good mechanic to work on your bike, you get a quality job back in return and that’s hard to find these days. 🤝👍
Thanks for the complement and the view!
Keep making videos bro best Harley tech on the tube that actually shows work
Will do!! Thanks for the compliment!!
I went to my local dealer to have a lower noise ckd out in primary had gear drive put in last year replacing cam chain tensioner now new noise in primary, the new dealer who bought it said don’t have tome to work on your 05 ultra tc 88 it’s too old, unreal how they treat people here , I ended up trailering it 100 miles to another Hd dealer who was glad to look at it hideout Harley Davidson in Joplin mo what a team they have great bunch of guys
Brad, if you spend that kind of time cleaning parts, get yourself a ultrasonic cleaner with different size baskets. Throw the hardware in and set it while you clean the frame, clean hardware and it didn't extend the work time hardly at all. I use carb cleaner in mine but you could use anything you want, works awesome very little attention needed after
The toilet paper and electrical tape heat cover just rolled me. Damn that was one hilarious hack! hahahaha Great video BWiz
Just binged a few videos! Great channel, keep the vids coming!
Good! Tear them up!!
its an extremly delightful work to watch, your mechanic skills are amazing, hope one day i could do that.. i wonder what is comig out from those Boses. i bid death metal ja!
another great video! what kind of jacks were u using or what do u recommend. ? thanks
Hi Brad, Thank you for your video's and knowledge. You are very talented tech for sure. Can you tell me where I could find the long 3/16th Allen bit and the long 1/4 long Allen tool to do the starter bolts? I have talked to my Snap-On guy and been to other outlets with nothing found. Thanks, and keep em coming. We love your video's.
I've had a lot of interest in the tool and I purchased it from matco years ago. It's been slipping my mind on getting the information but I just talked to my current matco dealer and he said he ordered one for me last week. I want to make sure it's the same tool I currently have before I give out the part number. Sorry for the delay.
Hi Brad I have quest about Wurth pipe Sealant PTFE what strength you using on it / low/Medium/ High thanks I have learn a lot about it thanks keep it up with projects
the produce we use is " DOS Pipe Sealant with PTFE 1.76 oz.
Article Number:0893511050 " here's is a like to it www.wurthusa.com/Chemical-Product/Miscellaneous/DOS-Pipe-Sealant-with-PTFE-1-76-oz-/p/0893511050
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard thanks dude
Can you do a more in depth video on how to properly torque the swing arm pivot bar? If you come across the opportunity of course.
Have really odd tire wear and a side to side shimmy while going through corners.
I had it apart to replace the brake pads, wheel bearings and rear tire. I checked for side to side play on the swing arm but had zero.
It also moves freely and smoothly up and down.
I had a dealership check it out a few years ago and after $140 bucks they said it was the tire. It wasn't.
I'll be taking it apart to replace the final drive belt in a few months so I'm gonna look into the swing arm being the issue again.
Thanks for the vids!
Sure if the opportunity comes around.
Very impressed. Already subscribed.
Thanks. And thanks.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard
Was wondering. Did the extended warranty cover this for the customer?
Great videos. How did that transmission get so grenaded with only 6k miles? Do you think there was a minor problem and they ruined it with the botched repair? The owner must feel like he's on a new bike now.
Great video Brad.
Thanks
Just watched your vid for the first time. Awesome job! I do have a quick question for you. Is there any yellow metals in a new m8 6 speed trans? Can I just use a good syn 75w90 oil
The shift forks are coated in bronze but that's about it. The best trans fluid I've experienced is Bel-Ray Gear Saver Synthetic Hypoid Gear Oil. It also happends to be a 75-90w. I'd deffentally recommend it!!
Harley Davidson Wizard
Cheers bud, thanks so much for the info.
@@DG-fm6ti No problem, Thanks for the question and welcome to the channel!
Have really used this video so far. Is there a reason you couldn’t put an assembled transmission in like this? Without the pan. I ended up removing the swingarm.
You can put in assembled transmission. But I wouldn't recommend it. It's so much heavier with the gear set in the trans case and the mainshaft sticking out the side of the trans case makes it difficult to get an assembled unit in the bike.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard very true! Gonna tackle the replacement this weekend hopefully. I’m sure you will see the view count go up dramatically lol.
I bought a screamin eagle 6 speed transmission complete for 2002 electra glide , can you just remove the gearset and put it in the 5 speed case? there is a screamin eagle 6 speed gearset you can buy to put in a 5 speed caes , just wondering if it's the same gearset used in the 6 speed transmission that is sold as a complete transmission?
I haven done a 6 speed in a older 5 speed case before so I cant give any input. sorry
Brad excelente work bro, can u send me the Link of the part 1 please
This is the kind of guy I want working on my bike!!! A craftsman to be sure.
Wish Harley dealer was like that here they don’t care
Good job on that street glide!
Thanks for the view and comment!
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard no problem, enjoyed it....i have a question for you. 14 S/G gears grinds from 1st to 2nd sometimes. Am i ready for a new clutch basket?
Hi Brad, what dealership do you work at? Would like to have you work on my bike and transmission. thanks, and thanks for your great video's.
I'm at Motor City Harley Davidson in Farmington Hills Michigan.
Thank you Brad!
Well done. 👏👏
Thanks for the view and the complement!
"...and when you add two halves then you get a whole ass piece of vehicle..." HAHAHAHA....sage words from the Wizard.
LOL. That's wizard math! LOL
Catching up on older vids. Doing a 12pt SS bolt swap om my 14 ltd. The 4 bolts that attach the transmission case to the block. Do you think I would have an issue replacing them one at a time?
Nope. Replacing them one at a time is how we all do it. No problems
Good stuff man
I have to fix a 2020 road king special, because some A hole didn’t extend the wires, or use silver sadder
Hey Brad?! I had a first as a tech today. I had a 2016 Street Bob that was leaking oil from the clutch cable adjuster area?!🤔 come to find out it was a air flow issue with the vent line. Have you ever seen that?!
Ya. I've seen where mud bugs carry mud into the trans vent and clog it up. Pretty rare. It sure does drive customers crazy trying to figure it out.
That’s exactly what it was lol customer thought it was something I did, because I had just serviced the bike. It was definitely a first for me lol.
Kerosene is a great oil / parts cleaner and it washes off with water.
First Harley dealer I heard of helping the customer.
I've had them steal parts off my bike and replacing them with same parts with chrome damaged. One dealer lied to me saying I had a bad crank bearing that I needed a new engine , ha ha . I'm an auto mechanic and knew better. I never again take my bike to dealers.
First he said it was a warranty for a customer then at time 2:47 he said it would end up being a nice bike for someone.
It was a complicated situation, if I remember correctly. I believe the customer who owned the bike at the time of the video had just recently purchased it from a general motorcycle place (non HD dealership) and when he purchased the bike he also purchased an aftermarket extended warranty program. And when he purchased the bike, I believe he was told it had a "new" transmission that they just put in it. I think he jad ridden the bike only a couple of times since purchase. So ya, it was an aftermarket warranty kind of deal. And I didn't know the guy so I was just saying it was gunna be a nice bike now for whoever he his.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard ... I see
To remove the transmission if your putting a brand new one in, do you have to actually pull the gears and stuff out or can you just separate it with all of that in it ?
You pull out the transmission cassette assembly as a whole. It has all of the gears on it except for one that's left in the transmission case.
What exhaust system do you think is best on a 2012 roadking that makes good hp. 103 twincam.
D and d fat cat. Is the best.
..hey Brad , just another quick question concerning my repair .. what is the process to repair the countershaft needle bearing located on the primary side of the transmission housing ? .. can this be removed and installed using a hammer and appropriate sized socket ? .. which direction is out for removal ?
I use the biggest socket that will push the bearing through. I think is a 15/16 or 1in socket. I turn the socket around and stick the extension in from the inside of the socket so when I'm hitting it, the largest surface area of the socket is applying pressure to the countershaft bearing. To remove the bearing I knock the bearing into the trans case and same when installing a new bearing, like im sitting on the left side of the bike (primary side) and drive the bearing into the trans case. I use a hefty mini sledge, probably 10lb. A normal hammer isnt enough. But ya. Pound the old one out and I coat the outside of the new bearing in green loctite #294. And pound in the new bearing. U gotta work quick as the lock tight sets up fast. The reason for the green locktite is, some trans case countershaft bearing bores are not a perfect circles and oil can leak past the bearing. And this is what the motor company told me to do so I do it on all countershaft bores now.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard ...is there any concern that the thin wall of the transmission housing will break ..that is my real concern with using socket/hammer .. i havent removed the transmission from the bike and was hoping to find a solution that doesnt involve removing the trans housing out of the frame .. will the socket/hammer work while the transmission housing is still in the frame ?
I wouldn't be concerned about breaking the trans case. I've done it like this probably 50 times and havent had one break. It is a unsettling about of force the first couple times you do it so dont go thinking little taps will do it. A big single handed mini sledge for sure. And hit it like it owes you money. I've only done it with the transmission case in the bike, I'm assuming its easyest that way to or else you'd have to prop the trans case up against something. Baker Drive train makes a really nice tool to replace the bearing in a "more civilized" manner. It comes in there grudge box transmission kit. I've used it once and it was really nice. I dont know if they sell the bearing tool separately from the grudge box kit.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard ..thanks for the solution , really appreciated !
When you pulled the transmission case was there anything that needed to be replaced in the case itself? Did you just inspect and clean up.
In this particular situation we replace the transmission case because it was physically damaged. In a normal transmission overhaul I would leave the transmission case in the motorcycle and replace the main drive gear bearing and the counter shaft bearing. But both of those bearings come preinstalled in a new transmission case. Thanks for the question and the view.
Was it Harley dealer that did the previous overhaul?
No. Some independent shop somewhere.
.. when the transmission 'cartridge' has been installed into the case and prior to mounting the clutch basket ,should there be any in/out play horizontally when the 'splined mainshaft end' is pushed in/out toward the 'trap door' side ? ..should there be any endplay/float ? ..if no freeplay should exist ,what might be the problem ?
The main shaft (splined shaft) should have bacically no detectable (in and out) end play. The main shaft is retained in the trap door with a roller bearing and roller bearings should have bacically no end play. When the main shaft does have end play it's a damaged trapdoor bearing or a damaged trapdoor door. Also the main shaft will have a little up and down play. But that's normal clearance.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard ...thanks for the reply , i pulled the clutch cable cover and pushed/pulled the mainshaft horizontally and can see movement/deflection in the bearing ..definitely not what i was hoping to see but i'm glad to have caught it now considering i have it apart and i've already replaced the mainshaft bearing and seal on the primary side ..
I watched the first video in this little series, and noticed that some of the gears had the 'cross-cut' at a different angle to the others and of course to the straight cut first gear ones. I believe that the gear cluster was a generation II when surely it should be generation III - I have a 2010 Dyna and that has generation III gears - which has all the angles (except 1st gear) going the same way. Is that correct ?
To be honest, I'm not sure. I haven't payed specific attention to the generations of the gear sets. Other than getting the updates from the motor company each year on "whats new , on the new models" I haven't thought about them in terms of the generations. I do like that tho, so I'll have to think about it. But yes, after the customer found out that the trans in the vehicle wasn't new and was actually used, he went back to the place that had done the work and they "fessed up" and said they found the "best low millage trans" so its deferentially likely the used trans was from an earlier model. Good eye and thanks for the question!
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard Thanks very much for the reply.....I was curious as the gearset is different to my one, and I had seen another video on RUclips in which 'Short block Charlie" describes things as so.... If that is so, then what was a gen II doing in a bike that should have had a gen III..... you just can't trust some independent 'specialists' !
@@thakery5720 True facts! Lol
I have 09 dyna, does my bike have a generation III trans?
@@gljazz I don't know, best ask a dealer.
What brand of impact driver is seen at 50:15? Is that a Milwaukee?
Ya, its a Milwaukee M18 1/2 #2763-20 its an absolute brute, but has such a light percise trigger u can run in 1/4-20 bolts with no fear of over tightening, but then bust any nut loose you can find. Other tech used to struggle with air impacts and super tight bolts, like compensator bolts, but when I bought this bad boy at home depot, that all changed. Its a huge tool but I preferred getting used to have 1 large power tool rather than running around in between 2 power impacts. Thanks for the question and view!
Where you working, in the basement?
Yes. I work in the basement of Arsenal Harley Davidson. It’s nice and secluded. I have a extra large work area and everybody else works upstairs. Thanks for the view!
YUP, nothing worse than having to deal with some A-hole's shoddy work!!
That lift.......
@@rocksolidhugo ya. Pole hoists are pretty nice sometimes.
name off sealent you use.thank you'
I don’t remember off hand. That’s the time on the video so I can see exactly what it was I doing.
50 bucks for 30minutes? are you hiring by anychance?
No Thanks. I have employment.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard ok man 😂 thanks for the reply! hell of a trip from finland to there on the daily anyway 🙄
.. hey Brad , i'm curious to get your opinion on something ..i just happened across this vid and it looks to me as if the old seal on the inner primary is in backwards and the new seal is being put in backwards also ..any thoughts as to whether this is correct and provides better sealing on the bearing race ?
ruclips.net/video/PGqUBLUC214/видео.html
any real technician wears a uniform.. as well as put tank protection on the motorcycle. its common sense.
You must have been the technician that worked on this bike last 🤣🤣 you wore your uniform in the basement and your tank protection for a transmission job but you put in the wrong bolts and halfassed everything else 🤣 Real tech🤣
I will let you all do the work I believe you sir
Great job Brad! Hey, I'm kinda new to Harleys and am in need of advice from a real mechanic like you. I'm no Harley mechanic. I'm a retired pipewelder/fitter in the shipbuilding industry (30 yrs) and am mechanically inclined. In this line of work, I've run into just about every kind of mechanical mishap one can imagine... I had a bad noise coming from the primary area on my 07 Road King. I found small metal shaving on the trans drain plug. I went as far as replacing the inner primary trans bearing (pressed in inner primary case) I went back with a Baker sealed bearing and eliminated the race one because I found it pitted and somewhat scarred. I buttoned it all back up, but only to realize I didn't stop the noise. So I'm going back in there and am gonna replace the main gear bearing (provided it needs replacement). So, my question to you is: Is there any advice, or tech tips you can offer me??? Thanks, and keep doing what you are doing. You have a great future ahead of you! The motorcycle world is in dire need of people like you! ...Godspeed.
the only real tech tech tips are.. Remove the trans dipstick before removing the gear set assembly and the right tools make the job easy like amzn.to/3mPCgNA amzn.to/3rqm2hf amzn.to/3rDmngS . I filed the edges of the snap ring pliers so they don't nick the aluminum bore during removal and install.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard Thank you sir! I figured you might reply "yea, get someone else to do it"! LOL! I bought most of the "Harley specific tools" (man, those things are expensive!). I can think of a million questions to ask, but I don't wanna bore/piss you off! Well guess I'll have to learn one way, or another. Thanks again, over and out.✌