HDW you are the man. I like your style, you are teaching not preaching. I wish you'd come to Las Vegas, Nv and set up shop, I'd trust my bike with you in a heartbeat. I'm going back to your first video and binge . You are "Da Man"
Thanks for your kind words, I apreachate the complement. I wish Nv was possable. It's still 30 degrees and snowing here in Michigan!!! Make sure you thumbs up them videos! Lol.
Brad, thank you so much for the video! I just took the trans top cover off (2015 Road KIng) and looking down in there, it seems like the spring is kinda tweaked like the one you removed. I wonder if I could take a screwdriver and nudge it back to where it is supposed to go My main symptom is moving the shifter forward to allow me to shift up into third (mainly) and 4-6 sometimes. I assume it's just gonna get worse. My indy shop says he has to take out the whole tranny. Your way seems doable even for me. Anyway, it was really educational. Seems like a good winter project
Thank you for this video. The compensator failed on my 2011 CVO. I have to pull everything off so I may try to replace this mechanism. The rear shift arm slides freely on the shaft with lots of play and I am unable to tighten it. If it's anything like the front linkage I had to replace, the splines are probably shot on the rear shift mechanism shaft also. How is it going back in? Put it in place and pry it back in? Tap it back in? or does it press in easily? Thank you Brad!
I have a 2015 Street Glide Special and the rear shifter rode lever is loose and I can spin the washer. Is is possible to just loosen the 1/4 inch allen bolt and push the lever towards the motor then tighten it back without doing this much work?
If the splines of both parts are in good condition. Then yes. The first step is to get in there with a 1/4 Allen bit and tighten it up and see if that does the trick.
Love your videos incredibly helpful! I am replacing the shift mechanism, I have the Jims tool works as it should but the pawl shaft seems to be too long and I cant get the Pawl out of the case??Ive watched your video a bunch of times but the shaft just wont clear the case. Any suggestions??
Wow Brad, I think I have the same problem with my 2004 Road King 5 speed. Was just thinking of all the work I was going to have to do until I saw your video and that amazing Jims tool. Is it the same for the five speed?
Hi brad, i have a problem with the shift lever assembly of my 2014 48 sportster. I removed it and found out that the bushing is worn out and there's a lot of play. How do I remove the bushing? Hope you can help me. Thanks
Having watched the refitting video first and then this one, I see why you put your fingers in there to help guide the pin bolt to go between the spring 'legs' as it were. I wonder if the person who first fitted the shifter mechanism took the time/trouble to do the same.... or is that too simple an explanation of why the problem occurred in the first place ! I seem to remember hearing about this problem many years ago though the problem was reported as not being able to shift at all, like if the spring came off the mechanism completely and stopped the pawl engaging on the drum correctly. H-D need to have more Quality Control Inspectors on their line - maybe a particular employee at H-D needs to take more care..... The design of this shifter mechanism prompted Baker Drivelines to manufacture a different version to 'engage more thoroughly with the drum'.... makes you think a bit Huh ? Do you think that, now you know what the problem was, maybe the spring could have just been pushed back into it's correct location with a screwdriver/lever from above without all the disassembly work ? If so it is something to remember as a few hours of work could be reduced to a half hour and save money on the cost of parts and labour !
Ya. After pulling the shifter mechanism out I originally felt dumb as I could of probably pushed the spring back into the correct spot. If I had a better angle to view the spring situation or if I would of used my borescope, the problem could of been easier to identify while assembled. After I got the shifter mechanism out I was contemplating making the video at all. Then I thought about the big picture, and that's the customer has a $50 deductible on there ESP and with the other situations going on with the bike it wouldn't be an added expense to the customer. And the bike needs to be perfect when it leaves the shop in situations like this. If I were looking at it for a friend or the vehicle cam in only for the shifter mechanism or it was directly out of the customers pocket that would possibility change the direction of my actions. I feel like the vehicle was most likely originally assembled with the one leg out of place right from the get go. But know that I've seen that this situation can happen it open my eyes next time if I ever see another one. And yes it was early 5 speeds i believe that I've heard of the neutral detent springs braking on. Thanks for the comment!!
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard Ah, five speeds were the ones with the problem.... sounds like an assembly problem then. I can see what you mean about the cost to the customer - if you had just seen the problem and pushed the spring back in place , it might have done it again or the spring could have been weakened and then failed. In that scenario you or your employers would have looked negligent by the customer and/or been liable for the repairs yourselves.... so in my opinion at least you did do the right thing. If it had failed and caused an accident.... well, let's not think about that.
The shifter linkage is susposed to move freely. But there doesnt need to be any play in my opinion. Any extra play just makes them rattle specifically on twin cam bikes. Milwaukee 8s are a little different since they are smoother with the balancers and the shifter shaft bushings are closer together. But I believe that's why there is a rubber bushing on the shifter linkage. IMO
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard Copy that. I suppose there is a difference in moving freely and play. Certainly only you know what you are feeling working on that bike specifically. Really enjoy watching your videos. You are one thorough tech!
Working towards replacing the Transmission Shifter Pawl Assembly and Main Inner race on 2004 FLHRSI. Currently unable to remove the Clutch Assembly. The nut will not loosen when turning it to the Right. Locking tool holding chain. Was able to loosen Compensator Sprocket Nut. Tried extending handle on breaker bar. Tried Air Impact Tool. Tried penetrating lubrication. The entire Clutch assembly turns to the right. Have not tried to heat the Clutch Nut. Any ideas
use a impact. i use a M18 fuel 1/2 Milwaukee and it zips them off no problem 100% of the time. I bought mine from home depot. Hers a link amzn.to/33LzLom. its honestly the best, most used tool I have. A real life changer. Sounds like your turning the clutch nut correctly cus its left hand thread.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard The Milwaukee impact tool you suggested has much more torque than my Craftsman 1/2 drive pneumatic drive impact rated at 300 ft-lbs. Thanks for the response.
Its literally a hole world of difference the new electric impacts make. The electric one I have hits so fast and hard but puts less stress into the part your working on cuz it zips the fastener off so fast. I used to have a beast of a snap on 1/2 air impact. But it's nothing, bacically worthless compared to the new electric m18.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard Got the Clutch Assembly Nut off. No heat. No Impact Wrench. Placed transmission in 5th gear and activated rear foot brake pedal. Came off easy with the breaker bar. Thanks. Enjoy the video's!
I'm liking how often you have been throwing out videos for us. Love me some Wizard vids!!!
Thanks for the complement and view!
Nice and thorough. You are what we want and expect when we leave our bikes at the dealer to be serviced.
Thanks for the complement and view!
Thanks for the complement and view!
HDW you are the man. I like your style, you are teaching not preaching. I wish you'd come to Las Vegas, Nv and set up shop, I'd trust my bike with you in a heartbeat. I'm going back to your first video and binge . You are "Da Man"
Thanks for your kind words, I apreachate the complement. I wish Nv was possable. It's still 30 degrees and snowing here in Michigan!!! Make sure you thumbs up them videos! Lol.
What a great video!! I need to replace my shift pawl and was dreading it. This tool is getting purchased today!
Very well done my friend regards Alan from the UK
Thanks for the complement from across the pond!!
Keep up the great videos dude! I love tuning into your channel. Your making great content. Can’t wait to watch the reinstallation video!
Thanks for the complement! Thanks for the view and suport!!
Wow, this was a really unusual one. I enjoy watching you work. Keep them coming!
Easy to follow you on the disassembly. How much travel is correct on the shifter mechanism?
Like 3/4 of an inch at the top of the shif lever coming off the transmission, going from one gear into another.
That wAs Kool. Going to make me check mine now lol
I find it hard to shift at full throttle on my 2014 Fatbob.
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Thanks!
Awesome video Brad, I have to get that tool.
Brad, thank you so much for the video! I just took the trans top cover off (2015 Road KIng) and looking down in there, it seems like the spring is kinda tweaked like the one you removed. I wonder if I could take a screwdriver and nudge it back to where it is supposed to go
My main symptom is moving the shifter forward to allow me to shift up into third (mainly) and 4-6 sometimes. I assume it's just gonna get worse. My indy shop says he has to take out the whole tranny. Your way seems doable even for me. Anyway, it was really educational. Seems like a good winter project
I wasn't able to find the video that showed the free play in the old one and the new one could you maybe give me a link to that, please?
Thank you for this video. The compensator failed on my 2011 CVO. I have to pull everything off so I may try to replace this mechanism. The rear shift arm slides freely on the shaft with lots of play and I am unable to tighten it. If it's anything like the front linkage I had to replace, the splines are probably shot on the rear shift mechanism shaft also. How is it going back in? Put it in place and pry it back in? Tap it back in? or does it press in easily? Thank you Brad!
I have a 2015 Street Glide Special and the rear shifter rode lever is loose and I can spin the washer. Is is possible to just loosen the 1/4 inch allen bolt and push the lever towards the motor then tighten it back without doing this much work?
If the splines of both parts are in good condition. Then yes. The first step is to get in there with a 1/4 Allen bit and tighten it up and see if that does the trick.
Love your videos incredibly helpful! I am replacing the shift mechanism, I have the Jims tool works as it should but the pawl shaft seems to be too long and I cant get the Pawl out of the case??Ive watched your video a bunch of times but the shaft just wont clear the case. Any suggestions??
Are you working on a 6 speed?
yes a 6 speed 2012 RG@@HarleyDavidsonWizard
Hi Brad Could I send you a pic so you can see whats going on? How would I do that?
Ya send it to @Bradthewizard on Facebook if you have facebook.
Wow Brad, I think I have the same problem with my 2004 Road King 5 speed. Was just thinking of all the work I was going to have to do until I saw your video and that amazing Jims tool. Is it the same for the five speed?
A every video I learn more and more... you’re an amazing mech!!
Thanks for the complement!
ok so the tool is no longer available and i was wondering what else i can use to remove and re install the sleeve?
Hi brad, i have a problem with the shift lever assembly of my 2014 48 sportster. I removed it and found out that the bushing is worn out and there's a lot of play. How do I remove the bushing? Hope you can help me. Thanks
I don't do much sportster work. And cant say I have direct experience with that sorry.
Good find 👍👍
Thanks for the complement and view!
Will this work on a six speed baker , I’m trying to keep from taking the inner primary race off
If the transmission was originally a 5 speed. Then no it won't.
Having watched the refitting video first and then this one, I see why you put your fingers in there to help guide the pin bolt to go between the spring 'legs' as it were. I wonder if the person who first fitted the shifter mechanism took the time/trouble to do the same.... or is that too simple an explanation of why the problem occurred in the first place !
I seem to remember hearing about this problem many years ago though the problem was reported as not being able to shift at all, like if the spring came off the mechanism completely and stopped the pawl engaging on the drum correctly.
H-D need to have more Quality Control Inspectors on their line - maybe a particular employee at H-D needs to take more care.....
The design of this shifter mechanism prompted Baker Drivelines to manufacture a different version to 'engage more thoroughly with the drum'.... makes you think a bit Huh ?
Do you think that, now you know what the problem was, maybe the spring could have just been pushed back into it's correct location with a screwdriver/lever from above without all the disassembly work ? If so it is something to remember as a few hours of work could be reduced to a half hour and save money on the cost of parts and labour !
Ya. After pulling the shifter mechanism out I originally felt dumb as I could of probably pushed the spring back into the correct spot. If I had a better angle to view the spring situation or if I would of used my borescope, the problem could of been easier to identify while assembled. After I got the shifter mechanism out I was contemplating making the video at all. Then I thought about the big picture, and that's the customer has a $50 deductible on there ESP and with the other situations going on with the bike it wouldn't be an added expense to the customer. And the bike needs to be perfect when it leaves the shop in situations like this. If I were looking at it for a friend or the vehicle cam in only for the shifter mechanism or it was directly out of the customers pocket that would possibility change the direction of my actions. I feel like the vehicle was most likely originally assembled with the one leg out of place right from the get go. But know that I've seen that this situation can happen it open my eyes next time if I ever see another one. And yes it was early 5 speeds i believe that I've heard of the neutral detent springs braking on. Thanks for the comment!!
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard Ah, five speeds were the ones with the problem.... sounds like an assembly problem then. I can see what you mean about the cost to the customer - if you had just seen the problem and pushed the spring back in place , it might have done it again or the spring could have been weakened and then failed. In that scenario you or your employers would have looked negligent by the customer and/or been liable for the repairs yourselves.... so in my opinion at least you did do the right thing. If it had failed and caused an accident.... well, let's not think about that.
Isn't neutral supposed to have some play in the shift linkage? I know all my all Harleys always have as does my 2020 CVO Limited with 1200 miles.
The shifter linkage is susposed to move freely. But there doesnt need to be any play in my opinion. Any extra play just makes them rattle specifically on twin cam bikes. Milwaukee 8s are a little different since they are smoother with the balancers and the shifter shaft bushings are closer together. But I believe that's why there is a rubber bushing on the shifter linkage. IMO
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard Copy that. I suppose there is a difference in moving freely and play. Certainly only you know what you are feeling working on that bike specifically. Really enjoy watching your videos. You are one thorough tech!
Working towards replacing the Transmission Shifter Pawl Assembly and Main Inner race on 2004 FLHRSI. Currently unable to remove the Clutch Assembly. The nut will not loosen when turning it to the Right. Locking tool holding chain. Was able to loosen Compensator Sprocket Nut. Tried extending handle on breaker bar. Tried Air Impact Tool. Tried penetrating lubrication. The entire Clutch assembly turns to the right. Have not tried to heat the Clutch Nut. Any ideas
use a impact. i use a M18 fuel 1/2 Milwaukee and it zips them off no problem 100% of the time. I bought mine from home depot. Hers a link amzn.to/33LzLom. its honestly the best, most used tool I have. A real life changer. Sounds like your turning the clutch nut correctly cus its left hand thread.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard The Milwaukee impact tool you suggested has much more torque than my Craftsman 1/2 drive pneumatic drive impact rated at 300 ft-lbs. Thanks for the response.
Its literally a hole world of difference the new electric impacts make. The electric one I have hits so fast and hard but puts less stress into the part your working on cuz it zips the fastener off so fast. I used to have a beast of a snap on 1/2 air impact. But it's nothing, bacically worthless compared to the new electric m18.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard Got the Clutch Assembly Nut off. No heat. No Impact Wrench. Placed transmission in 5th gear and activated rear foot brake pedal. Came off easy with the breaker bar. Thanks. Enjoy the video's!
Easy fix with a file or Dremel for the backyard penny pincer mechanic.
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How much more work is there to change out the final drive belt while you have it that much apart?
It's a little more work. You have to support the transmission and remove the swing arm. So it you have a hoist its not to bad.
@@HarleyDavidsonWizard by hoist, do you mean a motorcycle lift? I have a motorcycle lift and an automobile engine hoist
@@jamessmoth8683 ya. A motorcycle lift.
Would this work on a 99 road King what you're doing in this video thanks
I don't have to mess with the gears right
No. It's only for newer 6 speeds. Sorry.
will this work on a 1993 electra glide
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What size bolt is it for replacement ?
I don't understand the question. Do you know the time stamp it the video?
So damn cool man. Wow
Thanks for the view and compliment!!
Good eye Brad!