Ive been off my meds for a year now this is a joke its like the guy said its like a light switch in your head when your start taking it its like u can finally see and think clearly
There's some withdrawal effects, but it's mostly that when you've a legally recognised disability and medication that allows you to be a functional adult (including employment) losing that medication is hugely distressing.
@@verzeda you obviously don’t understand me I do emphasis with these people my question was what medication would be put on a shortage list next insulin, asthma,pain meds etc,etc.
'what's the excuse for not manufacturing medicine that people need?' cuz it's the fundamental principle on how they make money ? patientsdevelop worse symptoms and they'll get to develop new drugs for them..
Mild - ADHD meds typically need blood pressure checks before prescribing, and sometimes and ECG if you've pre-existing conditions. But there's no real evidence that it causes problems long term, or in healthy people without heart problems already.
@@EdRolisonthere’s actually been almost no research done on the long-term effects of prescription stimulants. Until relatively recently, stimulants were only used to treat ADHD in children, so doctors don’t really know how these drugs affect the body when taken for many years or even decades in adulthood.
It's a serious condition my 18 yr old daughter has ADHD and works full-time. She can't work without the medication. Yes other strategies can be used but medication is important, your very arrogant
Go find a speed dealer instead 😂 in all seriousness though, the long term effects of daliy amphetamine and ritalin in kids must be insane, especially in cases where the dose has to increase
I'm in my 40s, and newly diagnosed this year. It's not a 'kids thing' - it's a life long disability. (That starts in childhood, because it's genetic). I've been struggling for decades with cognitive impairment, and according to NICE figures, there's a 3-4% prevalence in adults. That's potentially 2 million people with a significant life impact (which is required to be diagnosed with ADHD). Undiagnosed ADHD can cost 12 years of life expectancy, and can lead to persistent under performance in a wide range of areas - not least employment and 'managing' your adult life. But our diagnosis and treatment rates in the UK are atrocious. 80% of that estimated 2 million people may not even know.
@@EdRolison it's also the fact that amphetamine causes tolerance to build (like most drugs), and people end up going from 5mgs of Adderall to humongous triple digit doses. I hope most doctors will start with non stimulant options first nowadays.
@@DanAxl-x9dthat's not the NICE recommendation. Both first line treatments are stimulant based. But that's because the evidence supports their efficacy, even on a longer term timeframe. Tolerance build up is not as severe as you think - there's long term studies that look at that too. ADHD brains do not respond the same way to stimulants are 'everyone else' - that's _why_ they are an effective treatment. To take a personal example - my medication makes me relaxed and makes it easier to sleep. That's not what a stimulant is _supposed_ to do, and is part of why it's dangerous to generalise 'everyone else' to people with a specific deficiency (dopamine). Adderall is also not licensed for use in the UK - the levoamfetamine it contains is not considered sufficiently therapeutic for the risk. The medication this clip is talking about is lisdexamfetamine mesilate - which is exclusive under patent from Takeda Pharmaceuticals as Elvanse (in the EU). That's an interesting substance, because it's a pro-drug - a little chemical factory that releases a stable dose gradually. You don't actually get to overdose or snort the stuff - I mean, you can, but mostly what you'll accomplish is wasting it, not getting high. It's much safer and abuse resistant than an awful lot of other prescription drugs. But there's honestly a lot of valid, credible research into ADHD medications, and their long term consequences. NICE approved dosage thresholds are also limited. 'triple digit doses' of dexamfetamine based treatments are not licensed/recommended - Elvanse is 70mg as the highest dose, and that's approximately 20mg once 'processed' in the body, over the course of 18 hours. So it's actually less of a 'hit' than a dose of Adderall would be (even if it was licensed, which as noted - it isn't in the UK).
Scientists have found that those with a higher social media use were 53% more likely to experience ADHD symptoms. It’s interesting to note that ADHD is a more recent phenomenon that coincides with the rise of social media platforms and the decrease in more focused-driven tasks such as reading a book, painting etc.l
No, it isn't. ADHD is in medical texts dating back 100+ years. It's not at all a 'recent phenomenon'. What is recent is it's recognition in adults - since 2008. But that's because there's evidence that it existed all along, and needed treating. Higher social media use may very well be correlated with ADHD though - because the nature of social media is it provides exactly the sort of dopamine stimulus that ADHD brains are missing in the first place. Just in general ADHD increases susceptibility to addiction. There's evidence of that too. There's no evidence to support the thesis that social media causes ADHD though. Correlation does not imply causation. And since the estimated population prevalence is 3-4% according to NICE, (e.g. 1.9 million people) and the number of people diagnosed and treated is considerably lower, it's really hardly a surprise it seems to be 'on the rise' as people gain better understanding of what it is.
Nope. Evidence is that there's a 70% heritability - it's genetic in origin, and runs in families. There's a few cases of it being caused post childhood, by brain injury (biohazard and trauma) but it's absolutely NOT 'caught' or 'rewired'. The diagnostic criterial literally requires 'presence of childhood symptoms'.
Still an issue now. I've been without for 6 months now. Lost my job and gone into a depression as a result.
Ive been off my meds for a year now this is a joke its like the guy said its like a light switch in your head when your start taking it its like u can finally see and think clearly
My doctor is denying me medication despite getting official reports for ADHD and ASD. I’m complaining and getting nowhere.
New Doctor
If it remains untreated it will result in mild cognitive impairment before they reach 50..that means early risk of alzeimers
Do you fall into withdrawal? Or just start to experience worsenning ADHD symptoms
There's some withdrawal effects, but it's mostly that when you've a legally recognised disability and medication that allows you to be a functional adult (including employment) losing that medication is hugely distressing.
Of course there are withdrawals - I'm on methylphenidate, and the withdrawals are horrific - google it
First it’s HRT now this what next ?
No tetanus vaccines in a&e, this is the tip of the iceberg. Women and neurodivergent folk are easy to disregard but there will be many more affected
The next thing is you having empathy for others - that will be a shock, I'm sure!
@@verzeda you obviously don’t understand me I do emphasis with these people my question was what medication would be put on a shortage list next insulin, asthma,pain meds etc,etc.
@@sandraoneill4431 Some types of insulin are on shortage as well now 😂
'what's the excuse for not manufacturing medicine that people need?' cuz it's the fundamental principle on how they make money ? patientsdevelop worse symptoms and they'll get to develop new drugs for them..
drug shortage, another brexit benefit.
How about the effects on the heart?
Mild - ADHD meds typically need blood pressure checks before prescribing, and sometimes and ECG if you've pre-existing conditions. But there's no real evidence that it causes problems long term, or in healthy people without heart problems already.
@@EdRolisonthere’s actually been almost no research done on the long-term effects of prescription stimulants. Until relatively recently, stimulants were only used to treat ADHD in children, so doctors don’t really know how these drugs affect the body when taken for many years or even decades in adulthood.
@@patrikvavro1611 Methylphenidate has been literally used since the 1950s. I'd say thats long term.
@@verzeda but it’s only recently started to be prescribed long-term past adolescence
If you watch too much GMB, you will definitely end up with mental health issues. 😁
It's a serious condition my 18 yr old daughter has ADHD and works full-time. She can't work without the medication. Yes other strategies can be used but medication is important, your very arrogant
And I'm very serious about too much 'news' on TV. @@jonclingan193
Alway a crisis somewhere
Go find a speed dealer instead 😂 in all seriousness though, the long term effects of daliy amphetamine and ritalin in kids must be insane, especially in cases where the dose has to increase
It's not mostly kids...
I'm in my 40s, and newly diagnosed this year.
It's not a 'kids thing' - it's a life long disability. (That starts in childhood, because it's genetic).
I've been struggling for decades with cognitive impairment, and according to NICE figures, there's a 3-4% prevalence in adults. That's potentially 2 million people with a significant life impact (which is required to be diagnosed with ADHD).
Undiagnosed ADHD can cost 12 years of life expectancy, and can lead to persistent under performance in a wide range of areas - not least employment and 'managing' your adult life.
But our diagnosis and treatment rates in the UK are atrocious. 80% of that estimated 2 million people may not even know.
@@EdRolison it's also the fact that amphetamine causes tolerance to build (like most drugs), and people end up going from 5mgs of Adderall to humongous triple digit doses.
I hope most doctors will start with non stimulant options first nowadays.
@@DanAxl-x9dthat's not the NICE recommendation. Both first line treatments are stimulant based. But that's because the evidence supports their efficacy, even on a longer term timeframe.
Tolerance build up is not as severe as you think - there's long term studies that look at that too.
ADHD brains do not respond the same way to stimulants are 'everyone else' - that's _why_ they are an effective treatment.
To take a personal example - my medication makes me relaxed and makes it easier to sleep. That's not what a stimulant is _supposed_ to do, and is part of why it's dangerous to generalise 'everyone else' to people with a specific deficiency (dopamine).
Adderall is also not licensed for use in the UK - the levoamfetamine it contains is not considered sufficiently therapeutic for the risk.
The medication this clip is talking about is lisdexamfetamine mesilate - which is exclusive under patent from Takeda Pharmaceuticals as Elvanse (in the EU).
That's an interesting substance, because it's a pro-drug - a little chemical factory that releases a stable dose gradually. You don't actually get to overdose or snort the stuff - I mean, you can, but mostly what you'll accomplish is wasting it, not getting high. It's much safer and abuse resistant than an awful lot of other prescription drugs.
But there's honestly a lot of valid, credible research into ADHD medications, and their long term consequences. NICE approved dosage thresholds are also limited. 'triple digit doses' of dexamfetamine based treatments are not licensed/recommended - Elvanse is 70mg as the highest dose, and that's approximately 20mg once 'processed' in the body, over the course of 18 hours.
So it's actually less of a 'hit' than a dose of Adderall would be (even if it was licensed, which as noted - it isn't in the UK).
@@DanAxl-x9dhumongous triple digits is an exaggeration, any doctor who prescribed such high doses regularly would risk losing their licence
All that brexit paperwork .... ... first HRT now this
how is a manufacturing problem at all related to import/export paperwork
Scientists have found that those with a higher social media use were 53% more likely to experience ADHD symptoms. It’s interesting to note that ADHD is a more recent phenomenon that coincides with the rise of social media platforms and the decrease in more focused-driven tasks such as reading a book, painting etc.l
No, it isn't. ADHD is in medical texts dating back 100+ years. It's not at all a 'recent phenomenon'.
What is recent is it's recognition in adults - since 2008. But that's because there's evidence that it existed all along, and needed treating.
Higher social media use may very well be correlated with ADHD though - because the nature of social media is it provides exactly the sort of dopamine stimulus that ADHD brains are missing in the first place. Just in general ADHD increases susceptibility to addiction.
There's evidence of that too.
There's no evidence to support the thesis that social media causes ADHD though. Correlation does not imply causation.
And since the estimated population prevalence is 3-4% according to NICE, (e.g. 1.9 million people) and the number of people diagnosed and treated is considerably lower, it's really hardly a surprise it seems to be 'on the rise' as people gain better understanding of what it is.
No it’s not 🫠🙄 sincerely a woman who’s struggled with ADHD her whole life including as a child with no phone or internet usage.
Agree
Not true
@@EdRolisonThank you for being not only a desperately needed but also incredibly well-spoken voice of reason logic & understanding ♥️
Legilzed speed big pharma Ay
Almost like there are no bad drugs and most illegal drugs have therapeutic value.
Turn off your notifications and delete tik-tok, you've allowed your brains to be re-wired, learn to focus.
Nope. Evidence is that there's a 70% heritability - it's genetic in origin, and runs in families. There's a few cases of it being caused post childhood, by brain injury (biohazard and trauma) but it's absolutely NOT 'caught' or 'rewired'. The diagnostic criterial literally requires 'presence of childhood symptoms'.
Nah mate, been this way for 20 years. Never installed that malware known as tiktok
@@gdwe1831 nah mate
😂😂😂 you've healed me.