The fact that the consequent destruction of the 2nd Temple, which was destroyed in 70 AD, is not even alluded to anywhere in the New Testament, proves that the Gospels and the entire New Testament was written within 30 years of Jesus' death. One of Jesus' most descriptive prophecies, described the complete destruction of the Jewish Temple. Considering the dedication of His followers, if they had been writing after the destruction of The Temple, they would at the very least alluded to the actual consequent destruction of the temple in 70 AD. Also the fact that Rome's war against the Jews & Israel which began in late 65 AD, is not mentioned when discussing the history of the early church, is also more than enough abundant proof that the New Testament was composed and completed within 10-30 years of Jesus' death.
Paul's writings occurred prior and the gospel stories are about events that occured prior. Why would the gospels mention the actual destruction? Mark's entire story alludes to the destruction of the temple as if the new cult is an answer to it.
@@downshift4503 Three of the four gospels refer to Jesus' prophecy regarding The Temple's destruction: Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. I find it rather strange that anyone would even ask, "Why would a gospel author refer to it, if they had witnessed it prior to completing their writing?" The entire purpose of their writing was that others might believe, and what better confirmation that Jesus was the prophet/messiah they had been waiting for for millennia than fulfilled prophecy? John 14:29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
@@blackeyedturtle Sure, it's very easy for Mark (and later authors copying Mark) to put those words into Jesus mouth implying that he was prophesying future events and as you say, this encourages anyone reading the story that this character was the messiah. Note that Paul, writing before the destruction of the temple, seems to know little about Jesus life and ministry that Mark would later write, never mind Jesus forecasting the temple will be destroyed.
@@downshift4503 A man as well educated and informed as Shaul, spent 14 years studying the life and ministry of the Messiah before he himself became an Apostle of The Gospel. You obviously know very little of what you are talking about.
Right! Thank you, I get my hackles up when Shills like Rogaine take swipes at my Lord Jesus! Rogan is not here to be normal, he, like a few others on RUclips are working for the devil himself to mislead the lost and searching! He sickens me and needs to be totally ignored by true men of God like this one.. Cheapening his videos!
Knowing Jesus is just a deceptive anti Catholic feel good talking point. Jesus is The WAY, THE TRUTH, and The LIFE. Following HIM is what we're supposed to do and spread his message without dividing The BODY OF CHRIST. In every Bible Jesus draws the line for belief at the Eucharist. If it was symbolism he wouldn't of doubled down and rebuked and dismissed followers who didn't believe. The Romans at the times even called the first century Church cannabis for eating The Body Of Christ, The Eucharist. The Suffering Servant said pick up your cross and follow HIM, and like HE was hated first, his followers will also be hated by the world. The historical record hold the answer for anyone who honestly looks without being blinded by hatred and prior false beliefs. Or test the two Jesus's and the two different fruits produced., You'll quickly find venom and hatred disguised as love, compassion, and zeal, for the Bible, as they attack and condemn Jesus, and HIS Mother.
First getting crucified was a common occurrence at that time. So what are facts. Things that we have evidence for. A guy named Paul wrote in a letter that he was traveling, and he had a vision of Jesus a person that he never met or heard speak while he was living and preaching. This guy Paul says that Jesus was born of a woman which simply means he was a human being. Next he also tells us that at some point he went to Jerusalem and he met the guy’s brother. Fact there are no claims by anyone that they personally saw Jesus rise and come back to life the moment it happened. Paul is the only one that has stated what he knows and how he knows it. To the question was there a guy ? That gets you a yes answer to there was a guy. That’s it.
@@markgallemore8856 Nobody saw Jesus resurrect, but it's kind of meaningless since they (the apostles) all saw him and ate with him over a period of weeks.
As a history major, I have to say that a LOT of conceptions we have of our history that are very well-believed as orthodox are FAR less supported than the New Testament.
such as? Also history major here. For me, and most non theists, I think its very clear that Jesus existed, but without all the supernatural claims like walking on water, turning water into wine, curing blindness with dirt and spit, ascending into heaven. The evidence for the supernatural aspects of his life are incredibly weak and sketchy
@@hideokojima6106 That's not what you just argued though. You made the assertion that it is "historically inaccurate"... and then proceeded to engage in the mythology aspect of the book... saying that there is no evidence to support it. Nobody is a "non-theist"... you guys are more of a theology than the most radical Christian lunatic. Acting like you guys only engage i n what is empirically verifiable is more insulting than listening to a zealot tell me about magic, alchemy... or even necromancy
@@JoshuaHopkins-j9o NONTHEIST: a person who does not believe that there is a god or gods : a person who is not a believer in theism what the hell are you going on about lol? Yes, many people are non-theists my friend. What I meant is that there is evidence for Jesus' existence outside of the Bible, so I'm willing to go that far (though some disagree on its authenticity/accuracy), but I'm going to need a lot more proof (and a lot stronger proof than what's in the bible since, as the expression goes, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence) that he was "The Creator" itself. Its a lot more likely that there was a charismatic man who developed a cult-following who was crucified for going against the Romans, than there is the chance of being God Himself being sent down to Earth and then rising from the dead 3 days later. When it comes to scholars and historians, their views on the historicity of Jesus Christ end there. As does mine and most atheists.
Everything Jesus said has stood the test of time. When we stray away from his teachings, humanity starts to unravel in negative direction really fast, as is clearly evidenced in confusion we're living through today. I don't know any other "fictional" character who has ever had even close to similar effect. It's all the proof I need.
Except the teachings about the imminent end, which Paul also believe in and talked about, as did the early Church Fathers. If you look at what academic scholars say about Jesus, in historical context, he is viewed as an apocalyptic prophet (one of many).
@@theastronomer5800 I don't think Jesus taught the imminent end. He actually said no one knows the time, and he quite clearly placated people saying that there will be wars and rumors of wars etc.. but not to be troubled. It's really not like he was screeching "end is nigh!!". In that context, I don't see him as "apocalyptic" at all, but I appreciate your comment.
@@theastronomer5800 none of his teachings on the second coming have been proven false He never said “the end is in a few months ” or “within x amount of years” he was quick to denounce this kind of thinking “no one knows the day or hour” “there will be disease, wars and famine, but do not take it as a sign” are some things he said(some of which I’ve paraphrased)
The world is not coming to an end like the Bible claims, the world has been in existed much longer than the Bible claims and humanity has been here for hundreds of thousands of years, yet god formed man a few thousand years back😂. We have 70 000 years of history in Mpumalanga, South Africa in "Inzalo ye langa" where all the calendars, including thezodiac calendar originate from. We have civilization spanning the continent and beyond which were established millenia before the Bible was written which demonstrate a understanding of scientific and mathematical principles long before anyone else.
You'd be hard-pressed to find a LEGITIMATE historical scholar who says He didn't exist! Edit: to the anti-God people. (Who will either have zero response or seek to shift my point to another topic/angle) Which has more "proof" and "scientific" process behind it? "Primordial Soup" or Jesus, Soup or creation by intelligence?!
It is not a black-or-white issue. Many accept that Jesus existed as a historical fact, and others will say that Jesus likely existed but acknowledge that the evidence is often second or third-hand claims and should be considered with scepticism. Very few assert that Jesus probably didn't exist and I am not aware of any that claim he didn't. Unlike other historical figures, the existence of Jesus is not necessary to explain any physical evidence. The existence of Aristotle and Plato are the same. History loses nothing if they are not real people. Tiberius Caesar, on the other hand, is required to explain physical evidence.
depends what you mean by "didn't exist". If Clark Kent existed it does not follow that stories of Superman are true (ie that Superman existed). Christians don't believe in the Clark Kent version of Jesus. They believe in the Superman version.
@@TurinTuramber yea I bielieve in krishna and this christians i never seen him while this christians just argue that there 100 procent true and i need to repend when im bielieving in a difrent Faith then them and for example the indigenous tribes in the amazon Rain forest and indonezja they dont know who jesus is no one can show them beacouse most of them are cannibals they eat human flesh and they dont understand what you would even say to them but by looking at the world they live in they defenitly know theres a creator a god a higher being that knows all and everything is immortal and created the universe and earth❤❤❤❤❤.
@@TurinTuramber however when the bible says you will recieve power john chapter 1 and this happens that is hard to disprove 1000s of millions of people
Keep in mind that very few NT scholar believes that the gospels were written by the authors they are attributed to. There are many reason for this, some obvious (like that they were uneducated and didn't know Greek) some less so (the late date of composition), have you never looked into this? These scholars are people who have spent their entire lives learning ancient languages, reading the original manuscripts, studying the development of the theology, etc. Mark is often thought to have been written by a follower of Peter, based on the idea that Mark's Gospel reflects Peter's teachings. Matthew and Luke are considered to have used Mark's Gospel as a source and incorporated other traditions and sources, such as the Q source as well as M and L. Most scholars believe that John was written by a later community of followers of John, reflecting a developed theology and ideas from the late first century.
@theastronomer5800 And there are other extremely respected & notable scholars who are absolutely convinced that the authors are exactly who they said they were. Scholars with Antichristian bias say anything to discount the holy scriptures, but we can have absolute confidence in them. The early church fathers have a direct line to the disciples, being taught by those who were students of the disciples themselves.. so the Christians' confidence is on a rock solid foundation!
The lady of Rogan's show is mistaken: The Gospel of John tells us the 'bath at the colonnade" IS there - present tense. The writer of the Gospels took for granted that Jerusalem hadn't been destroyed, so Joh nm was written prior too the destruction of Jerusalem AD 70.
Not even that the early church creeds are 0-2 years after Jesus and establish high christology from the start, the narrative never evolved. They give us deity, death and resurrection of Jesus. These people that try to pretend the mention of him is only a century later are absurd.
Another "hard point" in history is Pauls' execution by the Romans in 64 or 65 AD. So he had to write all the Pauline Epistles before then. And the book of Acts never mentions Pauls death; it leaves us hanging with him imprisoned in Rome. It would be very, very odd for Luke to leave out that event had it been written after the fact.
Joe Rogan's "opinion" seems to change depending who he is talking to. If he is talking to an Atheist or skeptic, the Bible is just BS, which is probably unfortunately his real opinion. If he talks to someone more accepting of Christianity or a believer, he pretends to be more positive towards Christianity. So what Joe Rogan says is really quite worthless.
Just wanted to say I appreciate your time you commit to bring his content. Working in R&D myself, I know how much time is involved in the background when trying to present researched subjects and your time is appreciated very much.
There's so much eye witness testimony of the life of Christ that if we are going to write off the gospels alone we can scrap any documented ancient figure.
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS WILL NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER The BIBLE exposes Satan the Devil as the Father of Lies and Murderer of human beings as written in John 8: 44 Billions and billions of Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions clearly don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence, obviously unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and false claims that - 1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and 2. Jesus Christ is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their willful opposition and defiance of what's written in Matthew 28: 18 bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS. The Creator and Jesus Christ never slander, mock, and degrade Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as human beings simply because the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance to the CREATOR who KNOWS that the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43 will definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 to lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26 guarantees that loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Two of the disciples were witness to his life and existence. John was witness to the actual event of his crucifying. 12 were executed by horrible deaths. .
The skeptics would have you believe that they know that nothing supernatural can happen, so the claims of miracles must all be part of a larger coverup. But you are correct--Did Abraham Lincoln exist? Dunno, I didn't see him.
@@spikenomoon Keep in mind that basically no NT scholar believes that the Gospel of John was written by John. There are many reason for this, some obvious some less so, have you never looked into this? These are people who spent their entire lives learning ancient languages, reading the original manuscripts, studying the development of the theology, etc.
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS WILL NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER The BIBLE exposes Satan the Devil as the Father of Lies and Murderer of human beings as written in John 8: 44 Billions and billions of Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions clearly don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence, obviously unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and false claims that - 1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and 2. Jesus Christ is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their willful opposition and defiance of what's written in Matthew 28: 18 bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS. The Creator and Jesus Christ never slander, mock, and degrade Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as human beings simply because the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance to the CREATOR who KNOWS that the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43 will definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 to lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26 guarantees that loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
One of many, of course. There are ~2000 religions that we know of in our written history, and many more gods. Many of these religions had "living gods" who visited their followers. Why do the best experts (people with PhDs who study early Christianity all of their lives) explain that Jesus was a 1st century Jewish apocalyptic prophet for example, one of many?
@@theastronomer5800 ATHEISM and RELIGIONS WILL NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER The BIBLE exposes Satan the Devil as the Father of Lies and Murderer of human beings as written in John 8: 44 Billions and billions of Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions clearly don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence, obviously unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and false claims that - 1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and 2. Jesus Christ is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their willful opposition and defiance of what's written in Matthew 28: 18 bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS. The Creator and Jesus Christ never slander, mock, and degrade Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as human beings simply because the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance to the CREATOR who KNOWS that the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43 will definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 to lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26 guarantees that loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
I was uninformed at one point, too. What's indisputable is that Joe Rogan has a large audience. With that being said, it would be wonderful if J. Warner Wallace, Dr. Gary Habermas, William Lane Craig, or other scholars, historians, etc. were invited to be on Rogan's podcast. Perhaps we could blow up his socials and make it happen?
I would invite Dr. Ehrman also. Secular scholars have the huge advantage of not being biased by a belief. Have you read any of Ehrman's work, in which he often summarized the mainstream views about Jesus based on academic research (not beliefs).
J.Warner Wallace and Gary Habermas have totally different beliefs about the historical nature of the evidence. If you believe, you cannot believe the other. If one convinces you, the other should be seen as being totally wrong and misleading people. You can't have it both ways, the Wallace & Lydia McGrew camp is singing a totally different tune than the Habermas & Licona camp. And William Lane Craig thinks genocide and slavery are good things, so maybe you should be embarrassed by him, not wanting him to speak in public?
@@alwinengelbrecht3012 I also watch Bart Ehrman and find him funny. But I am not sure what conspiracy ories (sic) you are alluding to. Please enlighten us.
Tiberius Caesar As the Roman emperor from AD 14 to 37, Tiberius was a major political figure whose life and reign were documented by several contemporary and later Roman historians. He had a direct influence on the empire, its laws, and its military. The key sources for Tiberius include: Tacitus' Annals (written c. AD 116-117) - A detailed, though often critical, account of Tiberius' reign. Suetonius' The Twelve Caesars (written c. AD 121) - A biographical sketch of Tiberius. Cassius Dio's Roman History (written early 3rd century AD) - A history of Rome that includes an account of Tiberius. Velleius Paterculus - A contemporary of Tiberius who wrote favorably about him in his Roman History. Inscriptions and Coins - There are numerous inscriptions, statues, and coins from his reign that directly commemorate and record his achievements. Thus, Tiberius has multiple contemporary and near-contemporary references due to his political prominence. Jesus of Nazareth Jesus, who lived in the same period (roughly 4 BC to AD 30/33), was a religious figure whose significance grew after his death, particularly within Christian communities. Despite his profound impact on history and the founding of Christianity, direct secular historical references to Jesus during or shortly after his life are fewer compared to Tiberius. The most significant references include: The New Testament (written between AD 50 and 100) - These are religious texts, not secular historical accounts, but they remain primary sources for understanding the life and teachings of Jesus. Tacitus - In Annals (Book 15, Chapter 44), written c. AD 116, Tacitus briefly mentions Jesus in the context of Nero's persecution of Christians, noting that Jesus was executed under Pontius Pilate during Tiberius' reign. Josephus - The Jewish historian Josephus (AD 37-100) refers to Jesus in his Antiquities of the Jews (Book 18, Chapter 3), written around AD 93. The passage known as the Testimonium Flavianum mentions Jesus, though parts of it are believed to have been altered by later Christian scribes. Pliny the Younger - In a letter to Emperor Trajan (c. AD 112), Pliny refers to early Christian worship of Christ (Jesus). Mara Bar Serapion - In a letter from the 1st or 2nd century, Mara Bar Serapion references the execution of a "wise king" of the Jews, which is often interpreted as a reference to Jesus. Who is Mentioned More? Tiberius Caesar has more contemporary historical documentation due to his role as a Roman emperor. The Roman Empire maintained thorough records, and historians like Tacitus, Suetonius, and Cassius Dio documented the reigns of emperors in detail. Jesus is mentioned less frequently in secular historical sources during his time, as he was a religious figure from a relatively small, occupied province of the Roman Empire. Most of what is known about him comes from Christian religious texts, written after his death, which were not intended as secular history. Posthumous Impact: While Tiberius has more contemporaneous historical mentions, Jesus has become one of the most referenced figures in world history, especially due to the influence of Christianity. Over time, countless texts, theological works, and historical studies have been written about Jesus, far surpassing the historical focus on Tiberius. In conclusion, Tiberius is mentioned more often in contemporary historical records, but Jesus has been the subject of far more writings and references in later centuries due to the spread of Christianity.
@@Chris_A. yeah, apologetics is useful for people who already believe but it doesn't answer legitimate questions and just makes it fit. Apologetics is harmonizing scripture and making it a mess instead of looking at it objectively. It doesn't see the contradictions in the Bible and just passes it off so believers can manipulate their minds to believe something is logical when it isn't. It happens when the gospels are harmonized instead of looking at what the gospel of Mark says and understanding the author whoever the author is. Apologist are fake exegetes. So far every apologist in this comment section has just waived off anything the scholars say. It's living a lie
If Jesus is fake, why didn't he get lost in history like the others? Why did so many people die insisting he was real and there? Would you die for a stranger?
@@TurinTuramber except everyone wants to leave the islamic countries. All the christian countries that followed the Word closely are the countries people are trying to get to. If islam is real and they follow it so sincerely why are their countries in constant turmoil? Their countries are not blessed. The more the US turns away from God the more we will fall too.
Because he had one of the biggest nations of the time, pushing their new religion, main stream, and creating copies of copies of these controlled gospels. That were written anonymously by the way… There’s a funny joke, the Jews like to say. Why did god allow the Mormon religion to be created. So Christians can understand and feel how the Jews feel about Christianity.😂
Thank you, lad. You often bring up and explain things that many young or new Christians will wonder about. Practical questions and answers that strengthen the Christian to defend Jesus and his historicity as well as His mission….
We don’t need to publish any works, there are well over 22,000 manuscripts on Jesus from antiquity. Why don’t you start there and get back to us. Or just ask Bart Erhman, an atheist Biblical scholar who said, “the most certain fact about Jesus is that he died by the hands of the Romans under Pontius Pilate at the behest of the Jewish Pharisees.”
@@philipmitchener28 I can write a manuscript right now that talks about Jesus, and you can make 4 copies of it. Does that give us 5 manuscripts confirming Jesus? No. It gives you one claim by me, and four copies of that claim. You don't understand the difference between a claim and evidence, do you?
@@peterlatourette3547 And when Einstein said (kind of) that, he was answering a question about the historical existence of Jesus. He made no claim that he believed the miraculous parts of the stories. Those are the ONLY parts that need confirmation, yet we have none. Nobody cares is a guy named Jesus existed if there's no reason to believe he performed miracles and was the son of God.
Man I really wish Joe would just have someone that knows their stuff on his show .. the blatant misinformation about Christianity is so crazy . Pure lies
How are they lies? And "blatant misinformation" is ridiculous. Did Jesus exist? Was he as portrayed in the Bible. How could anyone know? The son of God claim is ridiculous. How could a crucifixion save anyone, and from what? Look at the actual history of Christianity - it is shockingly evil, mass brain washing, massive bloodshed. And why is it any better or more true than the folklore and myths of any other religion going back 20,000 years with other heros and saviours? And why does it matter?
@@TurinTuramber no? It’s people that have zero credibility or knowledge on the topic whether they believe in Jesus or not . Even Bart erhman would be good and he’s done more propaganda to ruin peoples faith than anyone in my lifetime lol
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS WILL NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER The BIBLE exposes Satan the Devil as the Father of Lies and Murderer of human beings as written in John 8: 44 Billions and billions of Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions clearly don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence, obviously unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and false claims that - 1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and 2. Jesus Christ is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their willful opposition and defiance of what's written in Matthew 28: 18 bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS. The Creator and Jesus Christ never slander, mock, and degrade Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as human beings simply because the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance to the CREATOR who KNOWS that the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43 will definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 to lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26 guarantees that loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
People don't die for what they know to be a lie just to try and maintain a fictional narrative of conspiracy. Nearly all of the apostles were brutally killed for their claims of who Jesus was and his resurrection because they claimed they personally witnessed the events; if it was all just bs they wouldn't have stuck to the end and been boiled alive etc claiming it happened when they really knew it was all just bs...to think they would've is irrational and simply goes against human nature. This logic alone of course "proves" nothing, but it is one of many evidences that when all put together suggest it was real. Most of the time though, the problem isn't intellectual or a lack of evidence, it's personal reasoning that doesn't want it to be real because if it is there's consequences to how they are living their lives....in this regard there isn't any amount of evidence that would convince them because they've predetermined it to be false. Truly as Romans says, they are willingly ignorant and ignore the things of Him that are clearly seen from the creation, being understood by the things that were made. Because when they knew God they glorified Him not and suppressed the knowledge professing themselves to be wise, they became fools. We don't want there to be a God....but how hen do we explain all this?? I know, let's just say it exploded into existence from nothing with no cause, then life just happened by chance, then turned from bacteria to us all by random accident....we'll cling to this fairy tale and deny every piece of evidence that shows how absurd molecules to man actually is because we don't want a God to be over us we want to be our own god. That thought of the heart is why many can't accept any amount of evidence because they simply don't want it
The Ad Populum fallacy is just that, a fallacy. Suppose we use this same logic in a scenario where billions of people denied the existence of the sun. Does the sun no longer exist just because billions of people agree that the sun doesn’t exist? Of course not. The same is true of history.
Absolutely love and value this channel so much. It’s such a useful tool, answering questions of how could I intellectually argue/provide proof to unbelievers. What a blessing. We appreciate you so much for the time & dedication to this work. After all, Jesus is worth so much, more than anyone or anything. Thank you
Thank you for the good work of brining the evidence to light! I too used to be a skeptical. But materials like this really put the pieces together. Jesus Christ is our Lord!
Rogan should have on J. Warner Wallace, Dr. Gary Habermas, William Lane Craig, Dr Stephen Meyer, Dr James Tour, Dr John Lennox. A week of that and the whole world is saved.
@@franceshampel54 Pretty sure he did have Meyer on. Kept interrupting trying to get him off on goofy tangents as I recall. Tour would probably be perplexed but Lennox would have a field day with that!
I am always amazed that most logical people will admit, there are billions of things about this universe that they do not know. But they claim to know the answer to the biggest question of all.
@@The_Real_Indiana_Joe so you have reduced it to fantasy insurance. This mixed w imaginary friends is too rich. This is why there is supposed to be a separation of church and state. Craziness
@@BrianStrawn-c6g I'll admit, the details are left to fantasy, but you can't get jumbo jets and super computers via cosmic accidents. But we are here in a world where they exist, and they pale in comparison to us.
@@The_Real_Indiana_Joe to be clear. I was raised to be and still am a proud atheist but this world is very fantastic and awe inspiring. I hope you find the peace you’re looking for in this world and beyond. Facts are facts. This world has been dominated by religion and you failed on almost every level. On gods watch this world hasn’t gotten better, only better at making the poor do as they are told. Time for a new approach.
Jim only does interviews with fans of his work and people that don't mind covering for his frauds and lies. He's afraid of being asked questions about his past.
@@michaelsbeverlyMate, why are you constantly trolling on Christian channels? Btw, you still haven't given me the evidence that the 12 tribes are the 12 zodiac, and/or the 12 apostles were the 12 zodiac. Last time you told me to Google it, you going to keep repeating it, and making silly assertions without any evidence to support them?
0:58 correction, Who Saul saw was not the “ghost” of Jesus but the resurrected glorified Jesus! Saul was Pharisee, a sect within Jewish faiths at the time, and may have thought he was being faithful. Imagine his surprise when he learned from the risen Messiah what he was really doing! He was healed, made one of the Apostles, renamed Paul, and became perhaps greatest missionary for Christ of all time.
Once when you start believing in Jesus Christ and want to know Him, you are going to find out that He is real, when you start praying and asking you're prayers are going to be answered, if you want a relationship with the living God. How can people talk about the existence of Jesus of they don't know him. That's the same when people sit together talking, discus and judge about how to build a building and they have no clue how to build a building, dus not see it, dit not learn it, do not want it, and then start talking and judging how to do it. Do you want to talk about Jesus, start hoping He is alive, start believing He is alive start asking and you wil find out He is alive .
In this day ,healings happen every day by praying in His name! I have myself been healed Six times have instantly been healed by people praying for Mr in His name. My back,schiatica, arthritis in left hand,my knee joints and through TV, tendinitis. Yes, I believed and God did the rest through the praying intercessions.
No, they do not. So many prayers don’t get answered. And then, when a prayer supposedly does get answered, that’s looked at as an answered prayer in the ones that didn’t happen they resort to being God works in mysterious ways.
There's a book called "the case for Christ" by Lee Strobel that gives historical evidence that Jesus was a real person who lived in Judea which was part of the Roman empire and was executed by the Romans. He tell us about the Roman records and the historians at the time who wrote about Jesus. So Jesus definitely lived and died. He is not an invented person. So the remaining question is whether what Christians claim is true. After that he analyzes all of the possible ways that people would have claimed that they saw him alive after he died. He analyzes the possibility of each of those possible explanations for people seeing Jesus alive after he died. At the end of the book he gives his conclusion on all the evidence presented in the case. The entire book is presented as a court case with evidence presented by both prosecutor and defendant. I suggest that everybody both atheists and Christians should read this book. Then you can knowledgeably make up your own mind what's true or not true.
@@tomlaureys1734 Strobel is a con-artist, he only investigates one side, only talks to sources that he already agrees with. I do agree, everyone should read his book, as it's evidence that Christians lie and have no shame in it.
It's funny how people hear about other historical figures like king David, Alexander the Great, Vlad the Impaler etc and they just believe it, but you bring up Jesus and they say "That story is just a myth. He doesn't exist". Some people hear "Jesus" and immediately turn off the lights.
ATHEISM, CHRISTIANITY, and ALL RELIGIONS bring the HUMILIATIONS, SUFFERINGS, GRIEFS, SICKNESS, and DEATHS of MANKIND Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who are unitedly mocking, insulting, and degrading Jesus Christ as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth are clearly the hateful, cruel, merciless, and rebellious persons on earth who are obviously unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, arrogance, treacheries, hypocrisies, cruelties, deceits, and their - 1. LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist and 2. LIES and false teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation" offend, dishonor, humiliate, and degrade the lives and dignities of all human beings including that of their own families and neighbors and cause their humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS. The AUTHORITY and TEACHINGS of JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH The Creator KNOWS that all persons on earth who rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and without any value at all and willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 and believe his teachings too about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are clearly the loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who are definitely worthy and deserving of his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 and the Creator also KNOWS that he will not let all the loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others to remain as worthless and useless dusts on earth forever, instead, in the right and proper time, he will let his Christ RESURRECT them back to life so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@movie-mandan That's actually not true, or maybe the first documents found, butI read just the other day in Mathew 14 - 52, Jesus talks about "scribes that have become disciples", so he had people following him around and writing down things he said and did. Unless my bible is different from everyone else, I don't know how people miss that.
The book of Matthew has been confirmed by historians to have been written as early as 7 years after Jesus’s death on the cross. All of the New Testament was written by eye witnesses of Jesus’s life, death and resurrection, or they were written by the understudies of the eye witnesses. This has been confirmed by both secular and Christian historians, and is no longer a debate. People who disagree with it or are skeptic of it simply don’t want it to be true.
I've been studying academic scholarship on early Christianity and the NT for about 25 years and have never heard of any historians confirming that Matt was written as early as 7 years after Jesus. While some argue for an early date, most don't and that is NOT the academic consensus. Also, keep in mind that very few NT scholar believes that the gospels were written by the authors they are attributed to. There are many reason for this, some obvious (like that they were uneducated and didn't know Greek) some less so (the late date of composition), have you never looked into this? These scholars are people who have spent their entire lives learning ancient languages, reading the original manuscripts, studying the development of the theology, etc. Mark is often thought to have been written by a follower of Peter, based on the idea that Mark's Gospel reflects Peter's teachings. Matthew and Luke are considered to have used Mark's Gospel as a source and incorporated other traditions and sources, such as the Q source as well as M and L. Most scholars believe that John was written by a later community of followers of John, reflecting a developed theology and ideas from the late first century. For Matt in particular, most scholars will give a much later date for reasons like: Dependence on the Gospel of Mark: Most scholars believe that Matthew was written after the Gospel of Mark, which is generally dated to around 65-70 CE. Matthew is thought to have used Mark as a primary source, incorporating and expanding upon its content. Destruction of the Temple: The Gospel of Matthew seems to reflect knowledge of the destruction of the Jerusalem Temple, which occurred in 70 CE. Some scholars suggest that Matthew was written shortly after this event, as it includes references that imply the destruction was a recent event. Early Church Fathers: Early Christian writers such as Papias and Irenaeus indicated that Matthew was written in the first century, but they did not provide precise dates. Their testimonies are more indicative of the period rather than exact dating. Theological and Historical Context: The content of Matthew reflects a developed theological perspective and addresses issues pertinent to the early Christian community in the latter part of the first century.
@@theastronomer5800 not buying it. it does not take a God to prophesize that the 2nd temple will be torn down, especially after the first temple was torn down before. just takes a smart person to read the room. so claiming they were could only be written after the fact is not clever at all. just seem fallacious. 2nd point is that even today many people have ghostwriters and editor, to correct there grammar, and punctuations, so saying that I not write this post myself with out the help of spell checker, or help from the editor is a juvenile argument. I can not take these two arguments seriously, only a Scholar with some Axe to grind with make such fallacious conclusions.
@@theastronomer5800 well I’m sorry if you have never heard of it, but the discussions, calculations and reasoning has been argued. The bottom line is that the gospels have been argued extensively that the writers of them were in fact done by the apostles themselves or by their understudies well within the time of reliability which provides them credibility against any argument a to the contrary.
@kos-mos1127 How long you been crying on these channels? Like I said - The bane of 'higher learning circles' (yall will even migrate to Christian channels in angst and frustration.) Thanks for proving the point 😂
Here are the earliest proof of Gossple of Mark and it actually suggests that there is no evidence that Mark wrote it before 70 AD. Papyrus P45 (Chester Beatty Papyri): Date: Early 3rd century AD (c. AD 200-250) Content: This manuscript contains portions of all four Gospels and the Acts of the Apostles, including significant fragments of the Gospel of Mark. Significance: P45 is the earliest substantial manuscript of Mark, though it is not complete. It provides evidence of the Gospel’s circulation in the early 3rd century. Papyrus P137 (Mark fragment from Oxyrhynchus): Date: Estimated late 2nd to early 3rd century AD Content: This fragment contains a small portion of Mark 1:7-9 and 1:16-18. Significance: While not extensive, it is currently one of the oldest surviving fragments of the Gospel of Mark. Codex Vaticanus (B) and Codex Sinaiticus (Aleph): Date: Both are from the 4th century AD. Content: These are among the earliest complete manuscripts of the New Testament, including the full Gospel of Mark. Significance: These codices provide the earliest complete version of Mark, helping to preserve the text.
Generally, the scholarly consensus is that each of the Gospels had access to independent written sources that, by definition, significantly pre-date the Gospels. So the 65-80 AD window for the writing of the Synoptic Gospels, as well as the 90 AD dating for John, can be pushed even earlier for initial writing down of these events. Not to mention the fact that, contrary to what skeptics will tell you, many scholars, like Richard Bauckham, N.T. Wright, Charles E. Hill, etc, still argue for traditional authorship of 3-4 of the Gospels, which lends yet another level of credibility. That would mean not only did these writers have prior written sourcing, but they also had eyewitness experience (Matt & John) or direct companionship with major eyewitnesses (Mark & Luke).
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS WILL NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER The BIBLE exposes Satan the Devil as the Father of Lies and Murderer of human beings as written in John 8: 44 Billions and billions of Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions clearly don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence, obviously unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and false claims that - 1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and 2. Jesus Christ is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their willful opposition and defiance of what's written in Matthew 28: 18 bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS. The Creator and Jesus Christ never slander, mock, and degrade Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as human beings simply because the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance to the CREATOR who KNOWS that the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43 will definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 to lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26 guarantees that loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Out of the many scholars, very few tend to argue for traditional authorship though. Mark is often thought to have been written by a follower of Peter, based on the idea that Mark's Gospel reflects Peter's teachings. Matthew and Luke are considered to have used Mark's Gospel as a source and incorporated other traditions and sources, such as the Q source as well as M and L. Most scholars believe that John was written by a later community of followers of John, reflecting a developed theology and ideas from the late first century. Other reasons include the level of Greek used for example (how many scholars argue that the traditional Jesus followers were fluent in Greek?).
ATHEISM, RELIGIONS, DISHONOR, and ETERNAL DEATHS Their own lives, dignities, and existence are clearly of no worth, value, and importance to Atheists who are obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their assertions and claims that GOD doesn't exist and the Bible is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS. Their own lives, dignities, and existence are clearly of no worth, value, and importance to Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who are obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "immortality of the souls", "afterlife", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation" bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS. SUBMISSIVENESS and OBEDIENCE to the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH The lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance to the CREATOR who KNOWS that the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43 will definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 to lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26 guarantees that loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@rh2040 even when you watch certain movies why do they put BC or AD like i know movies arent real but why put these things in them and say hes not real
@@taejuanebenn2160 for the same reason we use the Roman monthly calendar. This is the system that was then adopted by the British and when the British empire ruled the world all the colonies used this system. It could have just as easily been the Mayan calendar but they were wiped out by the Spanish who also used this system. As did the French and the Dutch and all the colonising powers thanks to their shared Roman history.
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS WILL NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER The BIBLE exposes Satan the Devil as the Father of Lies and Murderer of human beings as written in John 8: 44 Billions and billions of Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions clearly don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence, obviously unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and false claims that - 1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and 2. Jesus Christ is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their willful opposition and defiance of what's written in Matthew 28: 18 bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS. The Creator and Jesus Christ never slander, mock, and degrade Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as human beings simply because the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance to the CREATOR who KNOWS that the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43 will definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 to lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26 guarantees that loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Did Zeus exist then, since he was worshipped for over a 1000 years by the Greeks, or any of the other gods (there are ~2000 religions that we now of, some older than Christianity)?
@@theastronomer5800 Zeus story begin, In someplace wonderland... As Gospel writen as "At this time, by .... During this regim/empire, this governer that Jesus..... So ITS not wonderland kinda story coz u can trace back...
Joe, if you question 1 group you have to question both groups. Meaning believers AND non believers and understand that if I can't prove to you that he existed, you can't prove to me that he didn't. The non-believers in the world that want to have this conversation need to be able to bring the same proof to the table that they want believers to bring to the table. If they can't do that there is no conversation!!!
Suppose you walked up to two people and said "I just had an apple for lunch." The first person notices he never saw an apple core and doesn't smell apple on your breath, and says "I am not convinced you ate an apple." The second person thinks he knows where you were this morning, thinks you were nowhere near an apple tree, and says "You did not eat an apple." Both of them do not believe you, but the first one is not making any claims. He is just not convinced by your story. He has nothing to prove, but you do. The second one has stated that you did NOT eat an apple, so he IS making a claim, and he does have a burden of proof. Atheism is simply a LACK of belief in a God. There might be gods, there might not, but they have not been convinced that any gods exist. If you claim there IS a god, the burden of proof was on you, and you failed to convince them. If someone claims there IS NO GOD, that's a positive claim, and it would need evidence to support it. But that's not what most atheists say. Simply NOT believing the Bible requires no proof. We just don't believe because we haven't been convinced. But for those atheists who claim "There are no gods", then I agree with you: THEY need to provide their evidence.
@@nathanielalderson9111 Heh, no, that's not how evidence works. "And Jesus has told us, what the consequences are." That right there is the problem. You really believe that, but you have no reason to. We have found zero evidence to support any of the miracles in the bible; we have no idea who wrote most of it, but we know for sure humans wrote it. We have not got one single word ever written by Jesus or by God, just humans. And the WHOLE BIBLE talks about how awful humans are, so why would we trust them with our souls?
the bible is a fake book jesus never existed during the roman empire the jews and romans killed 25 million greeks destroy statues libraries academies and the most beautiful buildings mankind has ever seen and after that christian killers called us also pagans. The word DEMON is a Greek word and it is a good word in fact from this word we have the other Greek word EΥΔΑΙΜΟΝΙΑ that means bliss but the good Christian killers change the real meaning of the Greek word to suit their false doctrine. The difference between Greeks and Christians? The difference between the two is that the Greeks built a world based on observation and intellect, while the Christians built a world based on assumption and imagination. all the fake jesus stories are stolen from ancient greek literature even his form is stolen from the greek apollo tianneas the greeks teach mankind HOW to think not WHAT to think. the same people who create the jewish myth of jesus create the islamic myth so they control the east and the west.they even put the never existed fake jesus in time so they make their lie more believable.if you look at them all religions have one thing in common and that is they are all pedos fraudsters they blackmail people and threat people also they rape children traffick children and murder children.everything is about money and power they are the biggest criminals of humanity .nobody knows what or who god is or how the miracle of nature works that is why the greeks had the statue of the unknown god and they told us that we will never understand how nature works .THE GREEKS TAUGHT HUMANITY HOW TO THINK NOT WHAT TO THINK THAT IS WHY DURING THE ROMAN EMPIRE THEY KILLED MY ANCESTORS THEY STOP ART MUSIC EVEN THE OLYMPIC GAMES THEY STOP THESE GOOD CHRISTIAN MURDERERS .WE THE GREEKS WILL TAKE REVENGE IN THIS NEXT WORLD WAR WE WILL BURN ALL CHURCHES AND KILL ALL PRIESTS TO TAKE AT LIST SOME OF THE BLOOD BACK FOR MILLIONS OF OUR ANCESTORS THAT THE CHRISTIANS KILLED
The Apostle Paul is believed to have died around 62-64 AD (only about 30 years after Jesus died). Some sources suggest that he was beheaded in Rome under the reign of Emperor Nero during the intense persecution of Christians. The Apostle Paul, originally known as Saul of Tarsus, converted to Christianity around 33-34 AD (1 to 2 years after Jesus died). His conversion experience is famously described in the New Testament, where he encountered a vision of Jesus on the road to Damascus. The Apostle Paul wrote almost half of the new testament (13 or possibly 14 books in the NT out of the 27) . based on this timeline about half of the new testament had to have been written sometime between 5-25 years after Jesus died.
Nothing has changed, just the same, the LIES, DECEITS, and TRICKS of ATHEISTS and RELIGIONS still bring and cause the HUMILIATIONS, SUFFERINGS, GRIEFS, SICKNESS and DEATHS of MANKIND Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who are unitedly mocking, insulting, and degrading Jesus Christ as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth are obviously unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, arrogance, treacheries, hypocrisies, cruelties, deceits, and their - 1. LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist 2. LIES and false teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation" offend, insult, hurt, and degrade the lives and dignities of all human beings including that of their own families and neighbors and cause their humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS. Nothing has changed, just the same, the AUTHORITY and TEACHINGS of JESUS CHRIST still bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH The Creator KNOWS that his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 is definitely NOT for cruel, merciless, and rebellious Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, and Hindus but ONLY for lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who honor Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and obey his teachings too about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 and the Creator also KNOWS that he will not let all the loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others to remain as worthless and useless dusts on earth forever, instead, in the right and proper time, he will let his Christ RESURRECT them back to life so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Really? First I’ve heard of this. Citation please. Perhaps you are talking about Josephus. I think you will find that there is nothing written about Jesus when he was alive. Then we have Paul’s Epistles, Acts, the Gospels, which are anonymous , Josephus and Tacitus.
@horridhenry9920 Nothing written about Jesus when he was alive? Really? So let's see, 5 thousand at the sermon on the mount. Roman tax collector Matthew walks off the job to join Jesus. Thousands pilgrimmage to Capernaum where they set up camp just to hear Jesus. The Jews try him, convict him, torture and crucify him. All this, and no Roman anywhere thought to maybe make note of it? In spite of Roman law that mandates such reporting? Really? Seriously?! There's so much contemporaneous documentation from the Romans alone it isn't even necessary to read the Bible to know Jesus existed!
Ceasar was alive ~50 years BEFORE Jesus was born. How could he be talking about Jesus? Jesus was a common name, like John today. Why would he be talking about THE Jesus before Jesus was born. What are you talking about?
It comes down to faith. Do you believe or not. Many try to squelch belief. It doesn't matter to me because my choice is i believe and won't change my view.
@@Wise_SonHe’s already had plenty of believers on and has had fascinating discussions with the likes of Stephen Meyer. Good for him. No other mainstream person even touches these subjects and he doesn’t claim to be an expert. He’s just having conversations.
@@29memyselfandi I wish he would bring on a Christian Biblical scholar/historian like Richard Bauckham or somebody like that. Might set up straight on historicity of Jesus.
@@ryanevans2655For a lot of people it’s just a nonissue, why does it matter if Jesus excited historically? It do any mean or prove anything. Muhammad is a real historical person, Joseph Smith is a real historical person. It doesn’t mean that the things written about them or by them is true.
J Warner Wallace, as a leading cold case detective, presents the more persuasive argument regarding the facts of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Very few (if any?) historical scholars of early Christianity (so people with PhDs, who don't make those kinds of documentaries...) doubt that Jesus existed. They also view him properly in his historical context (unlike religious people), so many for example consider him to have been a 1st century Jewish apocalyptic prophet based on the numerous apocalyptic sayings in the NT and his (as well as Paul's and the early Church Fathers') expectation of the imminent end.
the bible is a fake book jesus never existed during the roman empire the jews and romans killed 25 million greeks destroy statues libraries academies and the most beautiful buildings mankind has ever seen and after that christian killers called us also pagans. The word DEMON is a Greek word and it is a good word in fact from this word we have the other Greek word EΥΔΑΙΜΟΝΙΑ that means bliss but the good Christian killers change the real meaning of the Greek word to suit their false doctrine. The difference between Greeks and Christians? The difference between the two is that the Greeks built a world based on observation and intellect, while the Christians built a world based on assumption and imagination. all the fake jesus stories are stolen from ancient greek literature even his form is stolen from the greek apollo tianneas the greeks teach mankind HOW to think not WHAT to think. the same people who create the jewish myth of jesus create the islamic myth so they control the east and the west.they even put the never existed fake jesus in time so they make their lie more believable.if you look at them all religions have one thing in common and that is they are all pedos fraudsters they blackmail people and threat people also they rape children traffick children and murder children.everything is about money and power they are the biggest criminals of humanity .nobody knows what or who god is or how the miracle of nature works that is why the greeks had the statue of the unknown god and they told us that we will never understand how nature works .THE GREEKS TAUGHT HUMANITY HOW TO THINK NOT WHAT TO THINK THAT IS WHY DURING THE ROMAN EMPIRE THEY KILLED MY ANCESTORS THEY STOP ART MUSIC EVEN THE OLYMPIC GAMES THEY STOP THESE GOOD CHRISTIAN MURDERERS .WE THE GREEKS WILL TAKE REVENGE IN THIS NEXT WORLD WAR WE WILL BURN ALL CHURCHES AND KILL ALL PRIESTS TO TAKE AT LIST SOME OF THE BLOOD BACK FOR MILLIONS OF OUR ANCESTORS THAT THE CHRISTIANS KILLED
the bible is a fake book jesus never existed during the roman empire the jews and romans killed 25 million greeks destroy statues libraries academies and the most beautiful buildings mankind has ever seen and after that christian killers called us also pagans. The word DEMON is a Greek word and it is a good word in fact from this word we have the other Greek word EΥΔΑΙΜΟΝΙΑ that means bliss but the good Christian killers change the real meaning of the Greek word to suit their false doctrine. The difference between Greeks and Christians? The difference between the two is that the Greeks built a world based on observation and intellect, while the Christians built a world based on assumption and imagination. all the fake jesus stories are stolen from ancient greek literature even his form is stolen from the greek apollo tianneas the greeks teach mankind HOW to think not WHAT to think. the same people who create the jewish myth of jesus create the islamic myth so they control the east and the west.they even put the never existed fake jesus in time so they make their lie more believable.if you look at them all religions have one thing in common and that is they are all pedos fraudsters they blackmail people and threat people also they rape children traffick children and murder children.everything is about money and power they are the biggest criminals of humanity .nobody knows what or who god is or how the miracle of nature works that is why the greeks had the statue of the unknown god and they told us that we will never understand how nature works .THE GREEKS TAUGHT HUMANITY HOW TO THINK NOT WHAT TO THINK THAT IS WHY DURING THE ROMAN EMPIRE THEY KILLED MY ANCESTORS THEY STOP ART MUSIC EVEN THE OLYMPIC GAMES THEY STOP THESE GOOD CHRISTIAN MURDERERS .WE THE GREEKS WILL TAKE REVENGE IN THIS NEXT WORLD WAR WE WILL BURN ALL CHURCHES AND KILL ALL PRIESTS TO TAKE AT LIST SOME OF THE BLOOD BACK FOR MILLIONS OF OUR ANCESTORS THAT THE CHRISTIANS KILLED
Keep in mind that a non Christian HAS NO ABILITY WHAT-SO-EVER to discern God in ANY FORM. If you're not called - He's invisible to you and your spirit DOES NOT seek his face. If He has called you then and only then can you even begin to see His hand in nature and discern the sprits of the those around you. So don't try and convince the unregenerate with logic/arguments. They cannot see Him - at all.
Our greatest historians and scholars and historians cannot deny his existence as they don’t. His majesty and divinity too …as all in turn will come to understand. Amen 🙏
Yes that’s more reasonable but it was quite possibly mere years after with the first creeds already established and widely circulated within weeks. And the gospels may be some of the first ever peer reviewed factual documents because the community which included those thousands who walked with and saw Jesus accepted or rejected various writings based on their accuracy and obvious inspiration hence why the New Testament we have is the New Testament we have.
Is there any document written at the time Jesus was supposed to have been living which references him ? I’m doubtful since I haven’t seen any mention of it in any academic text book. I see plenty of historical figures mentioned, but not one reference to a historical Jesus.
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I think the problem with the external sources we have is that all of those writers were born after the death of Jesus. I believe the earliest external source is Josephus who was born 37 a.d. and doesn't write about Jesus for another 55 years later. Then you have to wonder why Josephus did not become a Christian considering what he supposedly wrote about Jesus? Tacitus was also born after the death of Jesus and does not write about Jesus until 116 a.d. The point I am trying to make is that external sources are writing about Jesus from the perspective of how Christians of their time viewed the concept of Jesus that could exist whether or not a historical Jesus actually existed. If you google how Tacitus got his information about the crucifixion of Jesus under Pontius Pilate he is recounting what he heard form the "Chrestians" themselves, not from official records. In terms of using the internal sources of the New Testament, even that has problems in that it is not a bunch of personal accounts but a series of writers borrowing from other writers to create the stories of Jesus. If Matthew and Luke were eyewitnesses or used eyewitness accounts, why do they rely on other written stories, in particular the gospel of Mark, where Mark informs us he got his stories from Peter who also had influence on Paul. While John is a bit of an outlier, he still sticks somewhat to what the other writers wrote. These writers had an audience in mind and tailored the narrative to that audience. My point here is that there is plenty of room for doubt even using the bible itself, leaving the possibility of a fictional Jesus. If all options are available, we could have a fictional Jesus or a historical Jesus. If historical, then there is the matter of is it an exaggerated Jesus or perhaps still a fictional Jesus in the sense that the writers did not convey the actual teachings of Jesus but rather their version.
ATHEISM, RELIGIONS, DISHONOR, and ETERNAL DEATHS Their own lives, dignities, and existence are clearly of no worth, value, and importance to Atheists who are obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their assertions and claims that GOD doesn't exist and the Bible is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS. Their own lives, dignities, and existence are clearly of no worth, value, and importance to Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who are obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "immortality of the souls", "afterlife", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation" bring them dishonor, disgrace, shame and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS. SUBMISSIVENESS and OBEDIENCE to the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH The lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance to the CREATOR who KNOWS that the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43 will definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 to lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26 guarantees that loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
So many nonbelievers in Christianity simply say things that are completely inaccurate. How can you speak with conviction about something that you know nothing about?
The amount of cross referenced different sources (and written in a ‘reporting’ not ‘literary/myth’ style) is MASSIVE compared to any other historical figure (Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, etc). If Jesus was a ‘myth’, then NOTHING from history can be believed. Also, when various bibles containing the gospels of Christ from the first few centuries, and in various geographical locations with different languages and cultures, were examined - the texts match up over 98% of the words and grammatical meanings - which mean the first people passing on what they saw was held in such extreme importance, that NOBODY took liberty or flourishes with the reporting (NOT stories or myth). Nothing like that has happened in human history before or since in documenting anything.
I don't know why those that choose not to believe try so hard to prove that Jesus as the son of god is not true. Why can't they just enjoy their beliefs with themselves?
Thousands of years and nothing has changed, the BATTLE to the DEATH on planet Earth is still ATHEISM and RELIGIONS versus the CREATOR and HIS CHRIST Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions KNOW and are fully aware that they are unitedly opposed, against, and - 1. will never ever accept that the Creator is the One who should be honored and respected as True and Sovereign God in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and 2. will never ever accept Jesus Christ too as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their willful opposition and defiance of what's written in Matthew 28: 18. The Creator KNOWS that his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4 is definitely NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions but ONLY for lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Acts was written before Paul, Peter or James died because none of it is recorded. That places it in the early 60's at the latest. Gospel of Luke was written before that. Wallace would put it in the early 50's. Gospel of Mark was written before Luke wrote his gospel, placing Mark in the mid 40's at the latest. Lets not sell the timeline short and believe the sceptics conclusions when it doesn't align with the evidence. Wallace has done a great job on this as well.
The thought of evidence outside of the bible is not wrongheaded. It's just seeking evidence to show those who do not believe that, at the very least, he was a real person. If you keep introducing the Bible you will lose those who are ardently against religion.
Mathew, Mark, Luke and John experienced life and wrote about it. Back in that day when they wrote what they experienced with JESUS, they couldn’t call each other up, or get in the car and collaborate there experience with each other
i have a question for anyone who is in unbelief: which would be worse? deciding to just take a tiny step out in faith and deciding to believe and trust Him now, even if all you can muster is as small as a mustard seed, or waiting until this life is over and finding out it was all true AFTER the fact? wouldn’t you rather step out in faith for a moment and allow God to work with that little bit of faith, or would you rather refuse that, not knowing what the consequence of that will be? our ways are not His ways, neither are our thoughts His thoughts. His ways and thoughts are higher than ours.
the bible is a fake book jesus never existed during the roman empire the jews and romans killed 25 million greeks destroy statues libraries academies and the most beautiful buildings mankind has ever seen and after that christian killers called us also pagans. The word DEMON is a Greek word and it is a good word in fact from this word we have the other Greek word EΥΔΑΙΜΟΝΙΑ that means bliss but the good Christian killers change the real meaning of the Greek word to suit their false doctrine. The difference between Greeks and Christians? The difference between the two is that the Greeks built a world based on observation and intellect, while the Christians built a world based on assumption and imagination. all the fake jesus stories are stolen from ancient greek literature even his form is stolen from the greek apollo tianneas the greeks teach mankind HOW to think not WHAT to think. the same people who create the jewish myth of jesus create the islamic myth so they control the east and the west.they even put the never existed fake jesus in time so they make their lie more believable.if you look at them all religions have one thing in common and that is they are all pedos fraudsters they blackmail people and threat people also they rape children traffick children and murder children.everything is about money and power they are the biggest criminals of humanity .nobody knows what or who god is or how the miracle of nature works that is why the greeks had the statue of the unknown god and they told us that we will never understand how nature works .THE GREEKS TAUGHT HUMANITY HOW TO THINK NOT WHAT TO THINK THAT IS WHY DURING THE ROMAN EMPIRE THEY KILLED MY ANCESTORS THEY STOP ART MUSIC EVEN THE OLYMPIC GAMES THEY STOP THESE GOOD CHRISTIAN MURDERERS .WE THE GREEKS WILL TAKE REVENGE IN THIS NEXT WORLD WAR WE WILL BURN ALL CHURCHES AND KILL ALL PRIESTS TO TAKE AT LIST SOME OF THE BLOOD BACK FOR MILLIONS OF OUR ANCESTORS THAT THE CHRISTIANS KILLED
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The fact that the consequent destruction of the 2nd Temple, which was destroyed in 70 AD, is not even alluded to anywhere in the New Testament, proves that the Gospels and the entire New Testament was written within 30 years of Jesus' death. One of Jesus' most descriptive prophecies, described the complete destruction of the Jewish Temple. Considering the dedication of His followers, if they had been writing after the destruction of The Temple, they would at the very least alluded to the actual consequent destruction of the temple in 70 AD. Also the fact that Rome's war against the Jews & Israel which began in late 65 AD, is not mentioned when discussing the history of the early church, is also more than enough abundant proof that the New Testament was composed and completed within 10-30 years of Jesus' death.
Excellent point!
Paul's writings occurred prior and the gospel stories are about events that occured prior. Why would the gospels mention the actual destruction? Mark's entire story alludes to the destruction of the temple as if the new cult is an answer to it.
@@downshift4503 Three of the four gospels refer to Jesus' prophecy regarding The Temple's destruction: Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. I find it rather strange that anyone would even ask, "Why would a gospel author refer to it, if they had witnessed it prior to completing their writing?" The entire purpose of their writing was that others might believe, and what better confirmation that Jesus was the prophet/messiah they had been waiting for for millennia than fulfilled prophecy? John 14:29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
@@blackeyedturtle Sure, it's very easy for Mark (and later authors copying Mark) to put those words into Jesus mouth implying that he was prophesying future events and as you say, this encourages anyone reading the story that this character was the messiah. Note that Paul, writing before the destruction of the temple, seems to know little about Jesus life and ministry that Mark would later write, never mind Jesus forecasting the temple will be destroyed.
@@downshift4503 A man as well educated and informed as Shaul, spent 14 years studying the life and ministry of the Messiah before he himself became an Apostle of The Gospel. You obviously know very little of what you are talking about.
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I never understood why joe rogan's opinion matters. Whoever is at peace with Jesus.That's what really matters because we truly know in our hearts.
This video is directed at the lost who deny Jesus, and hold prominent public figures in high regard.
Right! Thank you, I get my hackles up when Shills like Rogaine take swipes at my Lord Jesus!
Rogan is not here to be normal, he, like a few others on RUclips are working for the devil himself to mislead the lost and searching!
He sickens me and needs to be totally ignored by true men of God like this one..
Cheapening his videos!
Knowing Jesus is just a deceptive anti Catholic feel good talking point. Jesus is The WAY, THE TRUTH, and The LIFE. Following HIM is what we're supposed to do and spread his message without dividing The BODY OF CHRIST. In every Bible Jesus draws the line for belief at the Eucharist. If it was symbolism he wouldn't of doubled down and rebuked and dismissed followers who didn't believe. The Romans at the times even called the first century Church cannabis for eating The Body Of Christ, The Eucharist. The Suffering Servant said pick up your cross and follow HIM, and like HE was hated first, his followers will also be hated by the world. The historical record hold the answer for anyone who honestly looks without being blinded by hatred and prior false beliefs. Or test the two Jesus's and the two different fruits produced., You'll quickly find venom and hatred disguised as love, compassion, and zeal, for the Bible, as they attack and condemn Jesus, and HIS Mother.
First getting crucified was a common occurrence at that time. So what are facts. Things that we have evidence for. A guy named Paul wrote in a letter that he was traveling, and he had a vision of Jesus a person that he never met or heard speak while he was living and preaching. This guy Paul says that Jesus was born of a woman which simply means he was a human being. Next he also tells us that at some point he went to Jerusalem and he met the guy’s brother. Fact there are no claims by anyone that they personally saw Jesus rise and come back to life the moment it happened. Paul is the only one that has stated what he knows and how he knows it. To the question was there a guy ? That gets you a yes answer to there was a guy. That’s it.
@@markgallemore8856 Nobody saw Jesus resurrect, but it's kind of meaningless since they (the apostles) all saw him and ate with him over a period of weeks.
As a history major, I have to say that a LOT of conceptions we have of our history that are very well-believed as orthodox are FAR less supported than the New Testament.
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such as? Also history major here. For me, and most non theists, I think its very clear that Jesus existed, but without all the supernatural claims like walking on water, turning water into wine, curing blindness with dirt and spit, ascending into heaven. The evidence for the supernatural aspects of his life are incredibly weak and sketchy
@@hideokojima6106 That's not what you just argued though. You made the assertion that it is "historically inaccurate"... and then proceeded to engage in the mythology aspect of the book... saying that there is no evidence to support it.
Nobody is a "non-theist"... you guys are more of a theology than the most radical Christian lunatic. Acting like you guys only engage i n what is empirically verifiable is more insulting than listening to a zealot tell me about magic, alchemy... or even necromancy
@@JoshuaHopkins-j9o NONTHEIST: a person who does not believe that there is a god or gods : a person who is not a believer in theism
what the hell are you going on about lol? Yes, many people are non-theists my friend.
What I meant is that there is evidence for Jesus' existence outside of the Bible, so I'm willing to go that far (though some disagree on its authenticity/accuracy), but I'm going to need a lot more proof (and a lot stronger proof than what's in the bible since, as the expression goes, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence) that he was "The Creator" itself. Its a lot more likely that there was a charismatic man who developed a cult-following who was crucified for going against the Romans, than there is the chance of being God Himself being sent down to Earth and then rising from the dead 3 days later. When it comes to scholars and historians, their views on the historicity of Jesus Christ end there. As does mine and most atheists.
Everything Jesus said has stood the test of time. When we stray away from his teachings, humanity starts to unravel in negative direction really fast, as is clearly evidenced in confusion we're living through today. I don't know any other "fictional" character who has ever had even close to similar effect. It's all the proof I need.
Except the teachings about the imminent end, which Paul also believe in and talked about, as did the early Church Fathers. If you look at what academic scholars say about Jesus, in historical context, he is viewed as an apocalyptic prophet (one of many).
@@theastronomer5800 I don't think Jesus taught the imminent end. He actually said no one knows the time, and he quite clearly placated people saying that there will be wars and rumors of wars etc.. but not to be troubled. It's really not like he was screeching "end is nigh!!". In that context, I don't see him as "apocalyptic" at all, but I appreciate your comment.
@@theastronomer5800 none of his teachings on the second coming have been proven false
He never said “the end is in a few months ” or “within x amount of years” he was quick to denounce this kind of thinking “no one knows the day or hour” “there will be disease, wars and famine, but do not take it as a sign” are some things he said(some of which I’ve paraphrased)
@@MusgraveRitual if you think that , you are like all Christian’s are historically illiterate
The world is not coming to an end like the Bible claims, the world has been in existed much longer than the Bible claims and humanity has been here for hundreds of thousands of years, yet god formed man a few thousand years back😂. We have 70 000 years of history in Mpumalanga, South Africa in "Inzalo ye langa" where all the calendars, including thezodiac calendar originate from. We have civilization spanning the continent and beyond which were established millenia before the Bible was written which demonstrate a understanding of scientific and mathematical principles long before anyone else.
You'd be hard-pressed to find a LEGITIMATE historical scholar who says He didn't exist!
Edit: to the anti-God people. (Who will either have zero response or seek to shift my point to another topic/angle)
Which has more "proof" and "scientific" process behind it? "Primordial Soup" or Jesus, Soup or creation by intelligence?!
It is not a black-or-white issue. Many accept that Jesus existed as a historical fact, and others will say that Jesus likely existed but acknowledge that the evidence is often second or third-hand claims and should be considered with scepticism. Very few assert that Jesus probably didn't exist and I am not aware of any that claim he didn't.
Unlike other historical figures, the existence of Jesus is not necessary to explain any physical evidence. The existence of Aristotle and Plato are the same. History loses nothing if they are not real people. Tiberius Caesar, on the other hand, is required to explain physical evidence.
depends what you mean by "didn't exist". If Clark Kent existed it does not follow that stories of Superman are true (ie that Superman existed). Christians don't believe in the Clark Kent version of Jesus. They believe in the Superman version.
Dr. Richard Carrier
all legitimate historical scholars say he didnt exist (since there is no evidence from that timeline available)
@@thinkingaboutit1906 Plenty of evidence outside of atheist nonsense, bro.
Everyone is going to know about Jesus Christ however it’s best to know him now than later 😊
You will never be proven wrong here but that's not because you are correct.
@@TurinTuramber yea I bielieve in krishna and this christians i never seen him while this christians just argue that there 100 procent true and i need to repend when im bielieving in a difrent Faith then them and for example the indigenous tribes in the amazon Rain forest and indonezja they dont know who jesus is no one can show them beacouse most of them are cannibals they eat human flesh and they dont understand what you would even say to them but by looking at the world they live in they defenitly know theres a creator a god a higher being that knows all and everything is immortal and created the universe and earth❤❤❤❤❤.
Was the correct spelling of Turin Turambar already taken?@@TurinTuramber
i do not think the unsaved will ever meet Jesus as judgement is passed to angles for humans
@@TurinTuramber however when the bible says you will recieve power john chapter 1 and this happens that is hard to disprove 1000s of millions of people
Matthew, Mark, & John lived with Jesus. They were not only eye witnesses. They were companions of Jesus! First hand testimony!
Keep in mind that very few NT scholar believes that the gospels were written by the authors they are attributed to. There are many reason for this, some obvious (like that they were uneducated and didn't know Greek) some less so (the late date of composition), have you never looked into this? These scholars are people who have spent their entire lives learning ancient languages, reading the original manuscripts, studying the development of the theology, etc.
Mark is often thought to have been written by a follower of Peter, based on the idea that Mark's Gospel reflects Peter's teachings. Matthew and Luke are considered to have used Mark's Gospel as a source and incorporated other traditions and sources, such as the Q source as well as M and L. Most scholars believe that John was written by a later community of followers of John, reflecting a developed theology and ideas from the late first century.
Lol yeah ok
@theastronomer5800 And there are other extremely respected & notable scholars who are absolutely convinced that the authors are exactly who they said they were. Scholars with Antichristian bias say anything to discount the holy scriptures, but we can have absolute confidence in them. The early church fathers have a direct line to the disciples, being taught by those who were students of the disciples themselves.. so the Christians' confidence is on a rock solid foundation!
Wake up , the gospels are anonymous , the titles were put in by the church hierarchy in the 2nd century
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respected and notable scholars 😂, you mean Christian scholars ALL , non Christian scholars disagree
The lady of Rogan's show is mistaken: The Gospel of John tells us the 'bath at the colonnade" IS there - present tense. The writer of the Gospels took for granted that Jerusalem hadn't been destroyed, so Joh nm was written prior too the destruction of Jerusalem AD 70.
Yeah all the gospels have to have been written before AD 70.
Not even that the early church creeds are 0-2 years after Jesus and establish high christology from the start, the narrative never evolved. They give us deity, death and resurrection of Jesus. These people that try to pretend the mention of him is only a century later are absurd.
Another "hard point" in history is Pauls' execution by the Romans in 64 or 65 AD. So he had to write all the Pauline Epistles before then. And the book of Acts never mentions Pauls death; it leaves us hanging with him imprisoned in Rome. It would be very, very odd for Luke to leave out that event had it been written after the fact.
The writer (whoever that was - nobody knows) of gJohn KNEW the temple was destroyed and that is why it was written anywhere from 85-145 CE.
@@gmac6503 There's no evidence of that, and it was written by... John LOL
Lately any clip of Joe Rogan makes me feel better that I don't spend time listening to the podcast. God bless you all.
Joe Rogan's "opinion" seems to change depending who he is talking to. If he is talking to an Atheist or skeptic, the Bible is just BS, which is probably unfortunately his real opinion. If he talks to someone more accepting of Christianity or a believer, he pretends to be more positive towards Christianity. So what Joe Rogan says is really quite worthless.
same used to be an old listener. im afraid hes just gonna decay into an old secular hippie who never really confronts his inner self. Materialism.
You should spend some time reading and learning your bible
It's odd they never say Buddah never existed or Mohammed it's as if the only true threat to evil is Jesus Christ... mmmmm
Too scared to say anything about Islam.
Buddha yea but there’s more concrete evidence/ more sources for Muhammad existence , he was also 600 years later so that helps ..
@Bossna91 there's so much evidence for Christ it takes willful ignorance and more faith not to believe than to believe
@@thebamabirds8182 got u 🙏
because true christianity is a threat to the powers that be. christianity isnt a religion, its simply the truth
Just wanted to say I appreciate your time you commit to bring his content. Working in R&D myself, I know how much time is involved in the background when trying to present researched subjects and your time is appreciated very much.
Yes that's great. The only problem all this research amount to a load of nonsense. Jesus is real.
Pray for the Orthodox of Ukraine. ☦
are they ok .do you think they need more money?
There's so much eye witness testimony of the life of Christ that if we are going to write off the gospels alone we can scrap any documented ancient figure.
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS WILL NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER
The BIBLE exposes
Satan the Devil as the Father of Lies and Murderer of human beings as written in John 8: 44
Billions and billions of Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
clearly
don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence,
obviously
unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and false claims that -
1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3
and
2. Jesus Christ is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their willful opposition and defiance of what's written in Matthew 28: 18
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS.
The Creator and Jesus Christ
never slander, mock, and degrade Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as human beings
simply because
the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance
to
the CREATOR who KNOWS
that
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43
will
definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
to
lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26
guarantees
that
loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Two of the disciples were witness to his life and existence. John was witness to the actual event of his crucifying. 12 were executed by horrible deaths. .
The skeptics would have you believe that they know that nothing supernatural can happen, so the claims of miracles must all be part of a larger coverup. But you are correct--Did Abraham Lincoln exist? Dunno, I didn't see him.
@@spikenomoon Keep in mind that basically no NT scholar believes that the Gospel of John was written by John. There are many reason for this, some obvious some less so, have you never looked into this? These are people who spent their entire lives learning ancient languages, reading the original manuscripts, studying the development of the theology, etc.
The eye witnesses were made up.
0:57 lady, Jesus Christ is not a ghost. Jesus Christ is the living God who became the authority of all creation.
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS WILL NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER
The BIBLE exposes
Satan the Devil as the Father of Lies and Murderer of human beings as written in John 8: 44
Billions and billions of Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
clearly
don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence,
obviously
unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and false claims that -
1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3
and
2. Jesus Christ is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their willful opposition and defiance of what's written in Matthew 28: 18
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS.
The Creator and Jesus Christ
never slander, mock, and degrade Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as human beings
simply because
the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance
to
the CREATOR who KNOWS
that
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43
will
definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
to
lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26
guarantees
that
loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
One of many, of course. There are ~2000 religions that we know of in our written history, and many more gods. Many of these religions had "living gods" who visited their followers. Why do the best experts (people with PhDs who study early Christianity all of their lives) explain that Jesus was a 1st century Jewish apocalyptic prophet for example, one of many?
@@theastronomer5800 ATHEISM and RELIGIONS WILL NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER
The BIBLE exposes
Satan the Devil as the Father of Lies and Murderer of human beings as written in John 8: 44
Billions and billions of Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
clearly
don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence,
obviously
unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and false claims that -
1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3
and
2. Jesus Christ is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their willful opposition and defiance of what's written in Matthew 28: 18
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS.
The Creator and Jesus Christ
never slander, mock, and degrade Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as human beings
simply because
the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance
to
the CREATOR who KNOWS
that
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43
will
definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
to
lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26
guarantees
that
loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@theastronomer5800”God of gods” (Deuteronomy)
@@theastronomer5800 Do these other religions have any evidence to back them up?
I was uninformed at one point, too. What's indisputable is that Joe Rogan has a large audience. With that being said, it would be wonderful if J. Warner Wallace, Dr. Gary Habermas, William Lane Craig, or other scholars, historians, etc. were invited to be on Rogan's podcast. Perhaps we could blow up his socials and make it happen?
I would invite Dr. Ehrman also. Secular scholars have the huge advantage of not being biased by a belief. Have you read any of Ehrman's work, in which he often summarized the mainstream views about Jesus based on academic research (not beliefs).
J.Warner Wallace and Gary Habermas have totally different beliefs about the historical nature of the evidence.
If you believe, you cannot believe the other.
If one convinces you, the other should be seen as being totally wrong and misleading people.
You can't have it both ways, the Wallace & Lydia McGrew camp is singing a totally different tune than the Habermas & Licona camp.
And William Lane Craig thinks genocide and slavery are good things, so maybe you should be embarrassed by him, not wanting him to speak in public?
@@theastronomer5800Bart Ehrman is so funny. i watch him if i want to be amused by his conspiracy ories. 😂🤣
@@alwinengelbrecht3012 I also watch Bart Ehrman and find him funny. But I am not sure what conspiracy ories (sic) you are alluding to. Please enlighten us.
@@horridhenry9920 Who's the "us" you talk about?
Tiberius Caesar
As the Roman emperor from AD 14 to 37, Tiberius was a major political figure whose life and reign were documented by several contemporary and later Roman historians. He had a direct influence on the empire, its laws, and its military. The key sources for Tiberius include:
Tacitus' Annals (written c. AD 116-117) - A detailed, though often critical, account of Tiberius' reign.
Suetonius' The Twelve Caesars (written c. AD 121) - A biographical sketch of Tiberius.
Cassius Dio's Roman History (written early 3rd century AD) - A history of Rome that includes an account of Tiberius.
Velleius Paterculus - A contemporary of Tiberius who wrote favorably about him in his Roman History.
Inscriptions and Coins - There are numerous inscriptions, statues, and coins from his reign that directly commemorate and record his achievements.
Thus, Tiberius has multiple contemporary and near-contemporary references due to his political prominence.
Jesus of Nazareth
Jesus, who lived in the same period (roughly 4 BC to AD 30/33), was a religious figure whose significance grew after his death, particularly within Christian communities. Despite his profound impact on history and the founding of Christianity, direct secular historical references to Jesus during or shortly after his life are fewer compared to Tiberius. The most significant references include:
The New Testament (written between AD 50 and 100) - These are religious texts, not secular historical accounts, but they remain primary sources for understanding the life and teachings of Jesus.
Tacitus - In Annals (Book 15, Chapter 44), written c. AD 116, Tacitus briefly mentions Jesus in the context of Nero's persecution of Christians, noting that Jesus was executed under Pontius Pilate during Tiberius' reign.
Josephus - The Jewish historian Josephus (AD 37-100) refers to Jesus in his Antiquities of the Jews (Book 18, Chapter 3), written around AD 93. The passage known as the Testimonium Flavianum mentions Jesus, though parts of it are believed to have been altered by later Christian scribes.
Pliny the Younger - In a letter to Emperor Trajan (c. AD 112), Pliny refers to early Christian worship of Christ (Jesus).
Mara Bar Serapion - In a letter from the 1st or 2nd century, Mara Bar Serapion references the execution of a "wise king" of the Jews, which is often interpreted as a reference to Jesus.
Who is Mentioned More?
Tiberius Caesar has more contemporary historical documentation due to his role as a Roman emperor. The Roman Empire maintained thorough records, and historians like Tacitus, Suetonius, and Cassius Dio documented the reigns of emperors in detail.
Jesus is mentioned less frequently in secular historical sources during his time, as he was a religious figure from a relatively small, occupied province of the Roman Empire. Most of what is known about him comes from Christian religious texts, written after his death, which were not intended as secular history.
Posthumous Impact:
While Tiberius has more contemporaneous historical mentions, Jesus has become one of the most referenced figures in world history, especially due to the influence of Christianity. Over time, countless texts, theological works, and historical studies have been written about Jesus, far surpassing the historical focus on Tiberius.
In conclusion, Tiberius is mentioned more often in contemporary historical records, but Jesus has been the subject of far more writings and references in later centuries due to the spread of Christianity.
This is apologetics well-executed: showing visual evidence, connecting the "dots," and delivering truths that confound reproach.
Where?
@@gmac6503 Apologetics is most effective wherever there's a need for answers.
@@Chris_A. yeah, apologetics is useful for people who already believe but it doesn't answer legitimate questions and just makes it fit. Apologetics is harmonizing scripture and making it a mess instead of looking at it objectively. It doesn't see the contradictions in the Bible and just passes it off so believers can manipulate their minds to believe something is logical when it isn't. It happens when the gospels are harmonized instead of looking at what the gospel of Mark says and understanding the author whoever the author is. Apologist are fake exegetes. So far every apologist in this comment section has just waived off anything the scholars say. It's living a lie
@@Chris_A. apologetics doesn't have any answers. Apologetics doesn't recognize truths at all. Look at this comment section!
@@gmac6503 I do agree with your statement, "yeah, apologetics is useful for people who already believe...."
If Jesus is fake, why didn't he get lost in history like the others? Why did so many people die insisting he was real and there? Would you die for a stranger?
How many Muslims would die for Muhammad? How many are needed to make Islam true?
@@TurinTuramber except everyone wants to leave the islamic countries. All the christian countries that followed the Word closely are the countries people are trying to get to. If islam is real and they follow it so sincerely why are their countries in constant turmoil? Their countries are not blessed. The more the US turns away from God the more we will fall too.
Because he had one of the biggest nations of the time, pushing their new religion, main stream, and creating copies of copies of these controlled gospels. That were written anonymously by the way…
There’s a funny joke, the Jews like to say. Why did god allow the Mormon religion to be created. So Christians can understand and feel how the Jews feel about Christianity.😂
If Jesus then how could he let all the atrocities happen ie the massacre in Palestine the Jewish holocaust etc
@@conradspy3611 That's answered in Genesis. This is the most basic question ever asked of religion. It's only been answered a few million times.
Thank you, lad. You often bring up and explain things that many young or new Christians will wonder about. Practical questions and answers that strengthen the Christian to defend Jesus and his historicity as well as His mission….
“The evidence [of Jesus existing] is kinda sketchy”. That is the funniest thing I’ve heard all day. Atheists crack me up.
Then publish your work. Scholars have had thousands of years to provide evidence, and have not yet done it.
@@saintmalaclypse3217 Einstein said "You can feel the actual presence of Jesus pulsate off the page..no myth does that"❤
We don’t need to publish any works, there are well over 22,000 manuscripts on Jesus from antiquity. Why don’t you start there and get back to us. Or just ask Bart Erhman, an atheist Biblical scholar who said, “the most certain fact about Jesus is that he died by the hands of the Romans under Pontius Pilate at the behest of the Jewish Pharisees.”
@@philipmitchener28 I can write a manuscript right now that talks about Jesus, and you can make 4 copies of it. Does that give us 5 manuscripts confirming Jesus? No. It gives you one claim by me, and four copies of that claim.
You don't understand the difference between a claim and evidence, do you?
@@peterlatourette3547 And when Einstein said (kind of) that, he was answering a question about the historical existence of Jesus. He made no claim that he believed the miraculous parts of the stories.
Those are the ONLY parts that need confirmation, yet we have none. Nobody cares is a guy named Jesus existed if there's no reason to believe he performed miracles and was the son of God.
Man I really wish Joe would just have someone that knows their stuff on his show .. the blatant misinformation about Christianity is so crazy . Pure lies
How are they lies? And "blatant misinformation" is ridiculous. Did Jesus exist? Was he as portrayed in the Bible. How could anyone know? The son of God claim is ridiculous. How could a crucifixion save anyone, and from what? Look at the actual history of Christianity - it is shockingly evil, mass brain washing, massive bloodshed. And why is it any better or more true than the folklore and myths of any other religion going back 20,000 years with other heros and saviours? And why does it matter?
So if you disagree then it's lies but if you agree then "they know what they talking about".
@@TurinTuramber Something the left does every single day.
@@TurinTuramber no? It’s people that have zero credibility or knowledge on the topic whether they believe in Jesus or not . Even Bart erhman would be good and he’s done more propaganda to ruin peoples faith than anyone in my lifetime lol
The people who say they saw Jesus come back from the dead were killed nuff said what more do you need💯
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS WILL NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER
The BIBLE exposes
Satan the Devil as the Father of Lies and Murderer of human beings as written in John 8: 44
Billions and billions of Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
clearly
don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence,
obviously
unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and false claims that -
1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3
and
2. Jesus Christ is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their willful opposition and defiance of what's written in Matthew 28: 18
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS.
The Creator and Jesus Christ
never slander, mock, and degrade Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as human beings
simply because
the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance
to
the CREATOR who KNOWS
that
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43
will
definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
to
lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26
guarantees
that
loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Billions over the last couple 1000 years would disagree with your dismission, but your probably much smarter than all of us
People don't die for what they know to be a lie just to try and maintain a fictional narrative of conspiracy. Nearly all of the apostles were brutally killed for their claims of who Jesus was and his resurrection because they claimed they personally witnessed the events; if it was all just bs they wouldn't have stuck to the end and been boiled alive etc claiming it happened when they really knew it was all just bs...to think they would've is irrational and simply goes against human nature. This logic alone of course "proves" nothing, but it is one of many evidences that when all put together suggest it was real.
Most of the time though, the problem isn't intellectual or a lack of evidence, it's personal reasoning that doesn't want it to be real because if it is there's consequences to how they are living their lives....in this regard there isn't any amount of evidence that would convince them because they've predetermined it to be false.
Truly as Romans says, they are willingly ignorant and ignore the things of Him that are clearly seen from the creation, being understood by the things that were made. Because when they knew God they glorified Him not and suppressed the knowledge professing themselves to be wise, they became fools. We don't want there to be a God....but how hen do we explain all this?? I know, let's just say it exploded into existence from nothing with no cause, then life just happened by chance, then turned from bacteria to us all by random accident....we'll cling to this fairy tale and deny every piece of evidence that shows how absurd molecules to man actually is because we don't want a God to be over us we want to be our own god. That thought of the heart is why many can't accept any amount of evidence because they simply don't want it
The Ad Populum fallacy is just that, a fallacy. Suppose we use this same logic in a scenario where billions of people denied the existence of the sun. Does the sun no longer exist just because billions of people agree that the sun doesn’t exist? Of course not. The same is true of history.
History is unreliable so people have to use discernment.
She said 100 years🤦🏾♂️
Podcasts need to be regulated. This kind of idiocy with such a massive reach is dangerous.
No, free speech means free to think what you like. You want to censor free speech you stifle free thought.
Exactly where are all the fact checks when it comes to this nonsense. Funny how that works.
@@MikeMillington free speech doesn’t mean without consequences, especially when it comes to misinformation on such a far reaching platform.
@@MikeMillington Free speech is a privilege, and it can be revoked at anytime.
@@Byzantine_Orthodox_Christian Free speech is NOT a privilege. It's a right given us by God. It's a building block of a free society.
On many topics Joe Rogan is just 'winging it' and his guests too😂
Absolutely love and value this channel so much. It’s such a useful tool, answering questions of how could I intellectually argue/provide proof to unbelievers. What a blessing. We appreciate you so much for the time & dedication to this work. After all, Jesus is worth so much, more than anyone or anything. Thank you
Can you intellectually provide objective proof to unbelievers? Good luck with that.
@@horridhenry9920 no luck needed, just something more sinister: blind faith
Thank you for the good work of brining the evidence to light! I too used to be a skeptical. But materials like this really put the pieces together. Jesus Christ is our Lord!
Rogan should have on J. Warner Wallace, Dr. Gary Habermas, William Lane Craig, Dr Stephen Meyer, Dr James Tour, Dr John Lennox. A week of that and the whole world is saved.
Yes, please!! It just depends on how brave Joe is. He seriously needs to be educated.
@@franceshampel54 Pretty sure he did have Meyer on. Kept interrupting trying to get him off on goofy tangents as I recall. Tour would probably be perplexed but Lennox would have a field day with that!
Well-done. Very informative. Thanks!
I am always amazed that most logical people will admit, there are billions of things about this universe that they do not know. But they claim to know the answer to the biggest question of all.
@@The_Real_Indiana_Joe so do believers.
@@BrianStrawn-c6g True, but we will not be guilty of denying the Creator.
@@The_Real_Indiana_Joe so you have reduced it to fantasy insurance. This mixed w imaginary friends is too rich. This is why there is supposed to be a separation of church and state. Craziness
@@BrianStrawn-c6g I'll admit, the details are left to fantasy, but you can't get jumbo jets and super computers via cosmic accidents. But we are here in a world where they exist, and they pale in comparison to us.
@@The_Real_Indiana_Joe to be clear. I was raised to be and still am a proud atheist but this world is very fantastic and awe inspiring. I hope you find the peace you’re looking for in this world and beyond. Facts are facts. This world has been dominated by religion and you failed on almost every level. On gods watch this world hasn’t gotten better, only better at making the poor do as they are told. Time for a new approach.
Thank you brother. Amazing video.
Sharing in all my groups
I want to see an interview by Joe Rogan of J. Warner Wallace!!!
Jim only does interviews with fans of his work and people that don't mind covering for his frauds and lies.
He's afraid of being asked questions about his past.
@@michaelsbeverlyMate, why are you constantly trolling on Christian channels?
Btw, you still haven't given me the evidence that the 12 tribes are the 12 zodiac, and/or the 12 apostles were the 12 zodiac.
Last time you told me to Google it, you going to keep repeating it, and making silly assertions without any evidence to support them?
@@yndsu I think you're confusing me for someone else
0:58 correction, Who Saul saw was not the “ghost” of Jesus but the resurrected glorified Jesus! Saul was Pharisee, a sect within Jewish faiths at the time, and may have thought he was being faithful. Imagine his surprise when he learned from the risen Messiah what he was really doing! He was healed, made one of the Apostles, renamed Paul, and became perhaps greatest missionary for Christ of all time.
@@bryantaylor8848 correct! There’s no such thing as “ghost of Jesus”! Jesus ascended into Heaven after His resurrection!
Great video Brandon... well done brother! Felt your passion in this one... as always lol! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Once when you start believing in Jesus Christ and want to know Him, you are going to find out that He is real, when you start praying and asking you're prayers are going to be answered, if you want a relationship with the living God. How can people talk about the existence of Jesus of they don't know him. That's the same when people sit together talking, discus and judge about how to build a building and they have no clue how to build a building, dus not see it, dit not learn it, do not want it, and then start talking and judging how to do it. Do you want to talk about Jesus, start hoping He is alive, start believing He is alive start asking and you wil find out He is alive .
This is a VERY well put together video
Thanks brother
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom and i wach you from Poland :) Long way / video is... very cool. :)
In this day ,healings happen every day by praying in His name! I have myself been healed Six times have instantly been healed by people praying for Mr in His name. My back,schiatica, arthritis in left hand,my knee joints and through TV, tendinitis. Yes, I believed and God did the rest through the praying intercessions.
No, they do not. So many prayers don’t get answered. And then, when a prayer supposedly does get answered, that’s looked at as an answered prayer in the ones that didn’t happen they resort to being God works in mysterious ways.
@@Wretched2JZ Nobody knows why God heals some people and not others.We are not judging God!
We actually have proof of the existence of Jesus especially from secular sources
Even Wikipedia admits this.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_myth_theory
@@Paulthored that is certainly amazing! Wikipedia is tremendously biased by the people who are allowed to author and edit their webpages
Jesus being a real person historically and Jesus being the resurrected son of god are two very different claims.
There's a book called "the case for Christ" by Lee Strobel that gives historical evidence that Jesus was a real person who lived in Judea which was part of the Roman empire and was executed by the Romans. He tell us about the Roman records and the historians at the time who wrote about Jesus. So Jesus definitely lived and died. He is not an invented person. So the remaining question is whether what Christians claim is true.
After that he analyzes all of the possible ways that people would have claimed that they saw him alive after he died. He analyzes the possibility of each of those possible explanations for people seeing Jesus alive after he died.
At the end of the book he gives his conclusion on all the evidence presented in the case. The entire book is presented as a court case with evidence presented by both prosecutor and defendant.
I suggest that everybody both atheists and Christians should read this book. Then you can knowledgeably make up your own mind what's true or not true.
@@tomlaureys1734 Strobel is a con-artist, he only investigates one side, only talks to sources that he already agrees with.
I do agree, everyone should read his book, as it's evidence that Christians lie and have no shame in it.
Thank you for this content!!! Praying God blesses it and you!!❤❤❤
Very well done, brother.
And let us not forget. Luke was indeed an Historian and a Doctor. ❤️🌹❤️
John saw Jesus for his entire ministry!
...and beyond even.
Right!
Yet Joe gets excited about our world being a simulation. Nice one Joe!
Lets not forget the roman empire was a HUGE burocracy that recorded everything.
I love your channel I always am drawn back to it, over and over and over again! Love the Socratic method you use in your apologetics.
Thank you for all you do brother!
It's funny how people hear about other historical figures like king David, Alexander the Great, Vlad the Impaler etc and they just believe it, but you bring up Jesus and they say "That story is just a myth. He doesn't exist". Some people hear "Jesus" and immediately turn off the lights.
First documents of Jesus were about 70 years after His death. First documents of Alexander The Great were about 400 years after his death.
ATHEISM, CHRISTIANITY, and ALL RELIGIONS
bring
the HUMILIATIONS, SUFFERINGS, GRIEFS, SICKNESS, and DEATHS of MANKIND
Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
are unitedly mocking, insulting, and degrading Jesus Christ as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth
are
clearly the hateful, cruel, merciless, and rebellious persons on earth
who
are obviously unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, arrogance, treacheries, hypocrisies, cruelties, deceits, and their -
1. LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist
and
2. LIES and false teachings and doctrines about
"hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
offend,
dishonor, humiliate, and degrade the lives and dignities of all human beings including that of their own families and neighbors
and cause their humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS.
The AUTHORITY and TEACHINGS of JESUS CHRIST
bring
HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH
The Creator KNOWS
that all persons on earth who rejected Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and without any value at all
and
willingly submit instead to the authority of Jesus Christ in their obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18
and believe his teachings too about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
are
clearly the loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
are definitely worthy and deserving of his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
and
the Creator also KNOWS
that he will not let all the loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others to remain as worthless and useless dusts on earth forever,
instead,
in the right and proper time,
he will let his Christ RESURRECT them back to life so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@movie-mandan That's actually not true, or maybe the first documents found, butI read just the other day in Mathew 14 - 52, Jesus talks about "scribes that have become disciples", so he had people following him around and writing down things he said and did. Unless my bible is different from everyone else, I don't know how people miss that.
There is no supernatural involved with Alexander the Great 🙄🙄.
@@christopheespic No? I hear Alexander conquered the known world, that wasn't supernatural? Also, Alexander believed in God.
The book of Matthew has been confirmed by historians to have been written as early as 7 years after Jesus’s death on the cross. All of the New Testament was written by eye witnesses of Jesus’s life, death and resurrection, or they were written by the understudies of the eye witnesses. This has been confirmed by both secular and Christian historians, and is no longer a debate. People who disagree with it or are skeptic of it simply don’t want it to be true.
💯. People want to sin and live materially with no bother.
I've been studying academic scholarship on early Christianity and the NT for about 25 years and have never heard of any historians confirming that Matt was written as early as 7 years after Jesus. While some argue for an early date, most don't and that is NOT the academic consensus. Also, keep in mind that very few NT scholar believes that the gospels were written by the authors they are attributed to. There are many reason for this, some obvious (like that they were uneducated and didn't know Greek) some less so (the late date of composition), have you never looked into this? These scholars are people who have spent their entire lives learning ancient languages, reading the original manuscripts, studying the development of the theology, etc.
Mark is often thought to have been written by a follower of Peter, based on the idea that Mark's Gospel reflects Peter's teachings. Matthew and Luke are considered to have used Mark's Gospel as a source and incorporated other traditions and sources, such as the Q source as well as M and L. Most scholars believe that John was written by a later community of followers of John, reflecting a developed theology and ideas from the late first century.
For Matt in particular, most scholars will give a much later date for reasons like:
Dependence on the Gospel of Mark: Most scholars believe that Matthew was written after the Gospel of Mark, which is generally dated to around 65-70 CE. Matthew is thought to have used Mark as a primary source, incorporating and expanding upon its content.
Destruction of the Temple: The Gospel of Matthew seems to reflect knowledge of the destruction of the Jerusalem Temple, which occurred in 70 CE. Some scholars suggest that Matthew was written shortly after this event, as it includes references that imply the destruction was a recent event.
Early Church Fathers: Early Christian writers such as Papias and Irenaeus indicated that Matthew was written in the first century, but they did not provide precise dates. Their testimonies are more indicative of the period rather than exact dating.
Theological and Historical Context: The content of Matthew reflects a developed theological perspective and addresses issues pertinent to the early Christian community in the latter part of the first century.
@@theastronomer5800 not buying it. it does not take a God to prophesize that the 2nd temple will be torn down, especially after the first temple was torn down before. just takes a smart person to read the room. so claiming they were could only be written after the fact is not clever at all. just seem fallacious. 2nd point is that even today many people have ghostwriters and editor, to correct there grammar, and punctuations, so saying that I not write this post myself with out the help of spell checker, or help from the editor is a juvenile argument. I can not take these two arguments seriously, only a Scholar with some Axe to grind with make such fallacious conclusions.
@@theastronomer5800 well I’m sorry if you have never heard of it, but the discussions, calculations and reasoning has been argued. The bottom line is that the gospels have been argued extensively that the writers of them were in fact done by the apostles themselves or by their understudies well within the time of reliability which provides them credibility against any argument a to the contrary.
Will you please share the source that affirms that Matthew was written 7 years after Jesus' death? Thanks
The mere mention of Jesus is the bane of 'higher learning circles' (those who think they got it all figured out)
😂
The name Jesus does not add anything. 😂
@kos-mos1127 How long you been crying on these channels?
Like I said - The bane of 'higher learning circles' (yall will even migrate to Christian channels in angst and frustration.) Thanks for proving the point 😂
@@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY How long have you been crying about higher learning circles giving a dose of reality.
Here are the earliest proof of Gossple of Mark and it actually suggests that there is no evidence that Mark wrote it before 70 AD.
Papyrus P45 (Chester Beatty Papyri):
Date: Early 3rd century AD (c. AD 200-250)
Content: This manuscript contains portions of all four Gospels and the Acts of the Apostles, including significant fragments of the Gospel of Mark.
Significance: P45 is the earliest substantial manuscript of Mark, though it is not complete. It provides evidence of the Gospel’s circulation in the early 3rd century.
Papyrus P137 (Mark fragment from Oxyrhynchus):
Date: Estimated late 2nd to early 3rd century AD
Content: This fragment contains a small portion of Mark 1:7-9 and 1:16-18.
Significance: While not extensive, it is currently one of the oldest surviving fragments of the Gospel of Mark.
Codex Vaticanus (B) and Codex Sinaiticus (Aleph):
Date: Both are from the 4th century AD.
Content: These are among the earliest complete manuscripts of the New Testament, including the full Gospel of Mark.
Significance: These codices provide the earliest complete version of Mark, helping to preserve the text.
Generally, the scholarly consensus is that each of the Gospels had access to independent written sources that, by definition, significantly pre-date the Gospels. So the 65-80 AD window for the writing of the Synoptic Gospels, as well as the 90 AD dating for John, can be pushed even earlier for initial writing down of these events.
Not to mention the fact that, contrary to what skeptics will tell you, many scholars, like Richard Bauckham, N.T. Wright, Charles E. Hill, etc, still argue for traditional authorship of 3-4 of the Gospels, which lends yet another level of credibility. That would mean not only did these writers have prior written sourcing, but they also had eyewitness experience (Matt & John) or direct companionship with major eyewitnesses (Mark & Luke).
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS WILL NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER
The BIBLE exposes
Satan the Devil as the Father of Lies and Murderer of human beings as written in John 8: 44
Billions and billions of Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
clearly
don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence,
obviously
unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and false claims that -
1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3
and
2. Jesus Christ is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their willful opposition and defiance of what's written in Matthew 28: 18
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS.
The Creator and Jesus Christ
never slander, mock, and degrade Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as human beings
simply because
the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance
to
the CREATOR who KNOWS
that
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43
will
definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
to
lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26
guarantees
that
loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Out of the many scholars, very few tend to argue for traditional authorship though. Mark is often thought to have been written by a follower of Peter, based on the idea that Mark's Gospel reflects Peter's teachings. Matthew and Luke are considered to have used Mark's Gospel as a source and incorporated other traditions and sources, such as the Q source as well as M and L. Most scholars believe that John was written by a later community of followers of John, reflecting a developed theology and ideas from the late first century. Other reasons include the level of Greek used for example (how many scholars argue that the traditional Jesus followers were fluent in Greek?).
The existence of Jesus should not be debatable. If this person and his sacrifice is so important for the world god should have made it undeniable.
ATHEISM, RELIGIONS, DISHONOR, and ETERNAL DEATHS
Their own lives, dignities, and existence are clearly of no worth, value, and importance
to
Atheists
who
are obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their assertions and claims that GOD doesn't exist and the Bible is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS.
Their own lives, dignities, and existence are clearly of no worth, value, and importance
to
Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
are obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about
"hellfire", "immortality of the souls", "afterlife", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS.
SUBMISSIVENESS and OBEDIENCE to the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH
The lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance
to
the CREATOR who KNOWS
that
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43
will
definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
to
lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26
guarantees
that
loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@rh2040 even when you watch certain movies why do they put BC or AD like i know movies arent real but why put these things in them and say hes not real
@@taejuanebenn2160 for the same reason we use the Roman monthly calendar. This is the system that was then adopted by the British and when the British empire ruled the world all the colonies used this system. It could have just as easily been the Mayan calendar but they were wiped out by the Spanish who also used this system. As did the French and the Dutch and all the colonising powers thanks to their shared Roman history.
The biggest evidence of the existence of Jesus is the Christian
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS WILL NOT LAST on EARTH FOREVER
The BIBLE exposes
Satan the Devil as the Father of Lies and Murderer of human beings as written in John 8: 44
Billions and billions of Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
clearly
don't respect and value their own lives, dignities, and existence,
obviously
unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic LIES and false claims that -
1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3
and
2. Jesus Christ is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their willful opposition and defiance of what's written in Matthew 28: 18
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame, and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS.
The Creator and Jesus Christ
never slander, mock, and degrade Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as human beings
simply because
the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance
to
the CREATOR who KNOWS
that
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43
will
definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
to
lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26
guarantees
that
loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Exactly
Did Zeus exist then, since he was worshipped for over a 1000 years by the Greeks, or any of the other gods (there are ~2000 religions that we now of, some older than Christianity)?
@@theastronomer5800 Zeus story begin, In someplace wonderland...
As Gospel writen as "At this time, by .... During this regim/empire, this governer that Jesus..... So ITS not wonderland kinda story coz u can trace back...
Joe, if you question 1 group you have to question both groups. Meaning believers AND non believers and understand that if I can't prove to you that he existed, you can't prove to me that he didn't. The non-believers in the world that want to have this conversation need to be able to bring the same proof to the table that they want believers to bring to the table. If they can't do that there is no conversation!!!
Suppose you walked up to two people and said "I just had an apple for lunch."
The first person notices he never saw an apple core and doesn't smell apple on your breath, and says "I am not convinced you ate an apple."
The second person thinks he knows where you were this morning, thinks you were nowhere near an apple tree, and says "You did not eat an apple."
Both of them do not believe you, but the first one is not making any claims. He is just not convinced by your story. He has nothing to prove, but you do.
The second one has stated that you did NOT eat an apple, so he IS making a claim, and he does have a burden of proof.
Atheism is simply a LACK of belief in a God. There might be gods, there might not, but they have not been convinced that any gods exist. If you claim there IS a god, the burden of proof was on you, and you failed to convince them.
If someone claims there IS NO GOD, that's a positive claim, and it would need evidence to support it. But that's not what most atheists say. Simply NOT believing the Bible requires no proof. We just don't believe because we haven't been convinced.
But for those atheists who claim "There are no gods", then I agree with you: THEY need to provide their evidence.
@@nathanielalderson9111 Heh, no, that's not how evidence works.
"And Jesus has told us, what the consequences are." That right there is the problem. You really believe that, but you have no reason to. We have found zero evidence to support any of the miracles in the bible; we have no idea who wrote most of it, but we know for sure humans wrote it. We have not got one single word ever written by Jesus or by God, just humans.
And the WHOLE BIBLE talks about how awful humans are, so why would we trust them with our souls?
@@saintmalaclypse3217 In his misrepresentation he goes straight to the passive/aggressive threat of eternal torture lol
@@nathanielalderson9111 Reasons for what? What claim do you think I made?
the bible is a fake book jesus never existed during the roman empire the jews and romans killed 25 million greeks destroy statues libraries academies and the most beautiful buildings mankind has ever seen and after that christian killers called us also pagans. The word DEMON is a Greek word and it is a good word in fact from this word we have the other Greek word EΥΔΑΙΜΟΝΙΑ that means bliss but the good Christian killers change the real meaning of the Greek word to suit their false doctrine. The difference between Greeks and Christians? The difference between the two is that the Greeks built a world based on observation and intellect, while the Christians built a world based on assumption and imagination. all the fake jesus stories are stolen from ancient greek literature even his form is stolen from the greek apollo tianneas the greeks teach mankind HOW to think not WHAT to think. the same people who create the jewish myth of jesus create the islamic myth so they control the east and the west.they even put the never existed fake jesus in time so they make their lie more believable.if you look at them all religions have one thing in common and that is they are all pedos fraudsters they blackmail people and threat people also they rape children traffick children and murder children.everything is about money and power they are the biggest criminals of humanity .nobody knows what or who god is or how the miracle of nature works that is why the greeks had the statue of the unknown god and they told us that we will never understand how nature works .THE GREEKS TAUGHT HUMANITY HOW TO THINK NOT WHAT TO THINK THAT IS WHY DURING THE ROMAN EMPIRE THEY KILLED MY ANCESTORS THEY STOP ART MUSIC EVEN THE OLYMPIC GAMES THEY STOP THESE GOOD CHRISTIAN MURDERERS .WE THE GREEKS WILL TAKE REVENGE IN THIS NEXT WORLD WAR WE WILL BURN ALL CHURCHES AND KILL ALL PRIESTS TO TAKE AT LIST SOME OF THE BLOOD BACK FOR MILLIONS OF OUR ANCESTORS THAT THE CHRISTIANS KILLED
Thank you for all your videos. I love them.
The Apostle Paul is believed to have died around 62-64 AD (only about 30 years after Jesus died). Some sources suggest that he was beheaded in Rome under the reign of Emperor Nero during the intense persecution of Christians.
The Apostle Paul, originally known as Saul of Tarsus, converted to Christianity around 33-34 AD (1 to 2 years after Jesus died). His conversion experience is famously described in the New Testament, where he encountered a vision of Jesus on the road to Damascus.
The Apostle Paul wrote almost half of the new testament (13 or possibly 14 books in the NT out of the 27) . based on this timeline about half of the new testament had to have been written sometime between 5-25 years after Jesus died.
Nothing has changed, just the same,
the LIES, DECEITS, and TRICKS of ATHEISTS and RELIGIONS
still
bring and cause the HUMILIATIONS, SUFFERINGS, GRIEFS, SICKNESS and DEATHS of MANKIND
Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
are unitedly mocking, insulting, and degrading Jesus Christ as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth
are
obviously unbothered, remorseless, and just don't care even if their Satanic hatred, arrogance, treacheries, hypocrisies, cruelties, deceits, and their -
1. LIE and false claim that GOD doesn't exist
2. LIES and false teachings and doctrines about
"hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
offend,
insult, hurt, and degrade the lives and dignities of all human beings including that of their own families and neighbors
and cause their humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS.
Nothing has changed, just the same,
the AUTHORITY and TEACHINGS of JESUS CHRIST
still
bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH
The Creator KNOWS
that his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
is
definitely NOT for cruel, merciless, and rebellious Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, and Hindus
but
ONLY for lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
honor Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and obey his teachings too about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
and
the Creator also KNOWS
that he will not let all the loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others to remain as worthless and useless dusts on earth forever,
instead,
in the right and proper time,
he will let his Christ RESURRECT them back to life so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
The Romans were very accurate when it comes to data. There are letters to Cesar talking about Jesus. They had no reason to lie...
Really? First I’ve heard of this. Citation please. Perhaps you are talking about Josephus. I think you will find that there is nothing written about Jesus when he was alive. Then we have Paul’s Epistles, Acts, the Gospels, which are anonymous , Josephus and Tacitus.
@@horridhenry9920Kind of like Alexander the Great, nothing written about him until AFTER his death
@@horridhenry9920 cope, Denialist
@horridhenry9920 Nothing written about Jesus when he was alive? Really? So let's see, 5 thousand at the sermon on the mount. Roman tax collector Matthew walks off the job to join Jesus. Thousands pilgrimmage to Capernaum where they set up camp just to hear Jesus. The Jews try him, convict him, torture and crucify him. All this, and no Roman anywhere thought to maybe make note of it? In spite of Roman law that mandates such reporting? Really? Seriously?!
There's so much contemporaneous documentation from the Romans alone it isn't even necessary to read the Bible to know Jesus existed!
Ceasar was alive ~50 years BEFORE Jesus was born. How could he be talking about Jesus? Jesus was a common name, like John today. Why would he be talking about THE Jesus before Jesus was born. What are you talking about?
Joe Rogan would lose an IQ contest to a sea cucumber
He is still head and shoulders above most democrats
@@JC-em4tx Absolutely
@@Syrin23 🤣
He’s not stupid just kinda dumb if that makes sense. He’s intelligent but not smart. I don’t know how to articulate it.
He is...He was...and He will be...Forever❤
Yes sir!!
Amen! 🙏🏼
It comes down to faith. Do you believe or not. Many try to squelch belief. It doesn't matter to me because my choice is i believe and won't change my view.
I absolutely love your content. You are doing awesome work for God’s Kingdom. Bless you
Don't cha love it when 2 people discuss something they are almost totally ignorant about like they are so learned?
right! If Joe Rogan wants to discuss it because he genuinely is interested in knowing the truth why doesn't he have a real apologist on his show???
Right; the woman is ignorant. Luke, Mathew and John were all eyewitness to the events and were written c. 60 years after.
@@Wise_SonHe’s already had plenty of believers on and has had fascinating discussions with the likes of Stephen Meyer. Good for him. No other mainstream person even touches these subjects and he doesn’t claim to be an expert. He’s just having conversations.
@@29memyselfandi I wish he would bring on a Christian Biblical scholar/historian like Richard Bauckham or somebody like that. Might set up straight on historicity of Jesus.
@@ryanevans2655For a lot of people it’s just a nonissue, why does it matter if Jesus excited historically? It do any mean or prove anything.
Muhammad is a real historical person, Joseph Smith is a real historical person.
It doesn’t mean that the things written about them or by them is true.
Let’s go. praise the Lord 🙇🏽
Amen, Maranatha
Jesus Christ, the Savior of the world!
No he is not. Jesus was believed to be a 1st century apocalyptic Jewish Rabbi.
thank you for this, you broke it down so well. God bless
What year are we in ? 2024. How old is Jesus ? 2024. So, because it was so long ago, it didn't happen ? Never existed ? Right. . .
ugh... the ignorance.......!
J Warner Wallace, as a leading cold case detective, presents the more persuasive argument regarding the facts of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Jesus that's sad
The fact is the bibles translation is wrong do your research so it can't be the word of your god
There is proof Jesus was here. Many witnesses. Many Romans wrote letters about him
Eye witness testimony lowest form of evidence
There are many witnesses regarding ufo's.
There are many witnesses for the Loch Ness monster.
It doesn't mean anything.
Thank you for your work 🙏🏼
✝️❤️🌱 Jesus is Life
Very few (if any?) historical scholars of early Christianity (so people with PhDs, who don't make those kinds of documentaries...) doubt that Jesus existed. They also view him properly in his historical context (unlike religious people), so many for example consider him to have been a 1st century Jewish apocalyptic prophet based on the numerous apocalyptic sayings in the NT and his (as well as Paul's and the early Church Fathers') expectation of the imminent end.
the bible is a fake book jesus never existed during the roman empire the jews and romans killed 25 million greeks destroy statues libraries academies and the most beautiful buildings mankind has ever seen and after that christian killers called us also pagans. The word DEMON is a Greek word and it is a good word in fact from this word we have the other Greek word EΥΔΑΙΜΟΝΙΑ that means bliss but the good Christian killers change the real meaning of the Greek word to suit their false doctrine. The difference between Greeks and Christians? The difference between the two is that the Greeks built a world based on observation and intellect, while the Christians built a world based on assumption and imagination. all the fake jesus stories are stolen from ancient greek literature even his form is stolen from the greek apollo tianneas the greeks teach mankind HOW to think not WHAT to think. the same people who create the jewish myth of jesus create the islamic myth so they control the east and the west.they even put the never existed fake jesus in time so they make their lie more believable.if you look at them all religions have one thing in common and that is they are all pedos fraudsters they blackmail people and threat people also they rape children traffick children and murder children.everything is about money and power they are the biggest criminals of humanity .nobody knows what or who god is or how the miracle of nature works that is why the greeks had the statue of the unknown god and they told us that we will never understand how nature works .THE GREEKS TAUGHT HUMANITY HOW TO THINK NOT WHAT TO THINK THAT IS WHY DURING THE ROMAN EMPIRE THEY KILLED MY ANCESTORS THEY STOP ART MUSIC EVEN THE OLYMPIC GAMES THEY STOP THESE GOOD CHRISTIAN MURDERERS .WE THE GREEKS WILL TAKE REVENGE IN THIS NEXT WORLD WAR WE WILL BURN ALL CHURCHES AND KILL ALL PRIESTS TO TAKE AT LIST SOME OF THE BLOOD BACK FOR MILLIONS OF OUR ANCESTORS THAT THE CHRISTIANS KILLED
This woman talking to Rogan doesn't know what she is talking about. Matthew, Mark and John all knew and lived with Jesus for years.
WRONG
Amen 🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤
Blessings 🙏🙏🙏 to Jesus 😇✝️
the bible is a fake book jesus never existed during the roman empire the jews and romans killed 25 million greeks destroy statues libraries academies and the most beautiful buildings mankind has ever seen and after that christian killers called us also pagans. The word DEMON is a Greek word and it is a good word in fact from this word we have the other Greek word EΥΔΑΙΜΟΝΙΑ that means bliss but the good Christian killers change the real meaning of the Greek word to suit their false doctrine. The difference between Greeks and Christians? The difference between the two is that the Greeks built a world based on observation and intellect, while the Christians built a world based on assumption and imagination. all the fake jesus stories are stolen from ancient greek literature even his form is stolen from the greek apollo tianneas the greeks teach mankind HOW to think not WHAT to think. the same people who create the jewish myth of jesus create the islamic myth so they control the east and the west.they even put the never existed fake jesus in time so they make their lie more believable.if you look at them all religions have one thing in common and that is they are all pedos fraudsters they blackmail people and threat people also they rape children traffick children and murder children.everything is about money and power they are the biggest criminals of humanity .nobody knows what or who god is or how the miracle of nature works that is why the greeks had the statue of the unknown god and they told us that we will never understand how nature works .THE GREEKS TAUGHT HUMANITY HOW TO THINK NOT WHAT TO THINK THAT IS WHY DURING THE ROMAN EMPIRE THEY KILLED MY ANCESTORS THEY STOP ART MUSIC EVEN THE OLYMPIC GAMES THEY STOP THESE GOOD CHRISTIAN MURDERERS .WE THE GREEKS WILL TAKE REVENGE IN THIS NEXT WORLD WAR WE WILL BURN ALL CHURCHES AND KILL ALL PRIESTS TO TAKE AT LIST SOME OF THE BLOOD BACK FOR MILLIONS OF OUR ANCESTORS THAT THE CHRISTIANS KILLED
Keep in mind that a non Christian HAS NO ABILITY WHAT-SO-EVER to discern God in ANY FORM. If you're not called - He's invisible to you and your spirit DOES NOT seek his face. If He has called you then and only then can you even begin to see His hand in nature and discern the sprits of the those around you. So don't try and convince the unregenerate with logic/arguments. They cannot see Him - at all.
Our greatest historians and scholars and historians cannot deny his existence as they don’t.
His majesty and divinity too …as all in turn will come to understand.
Amen 🙏
The shroud of Turin is strong evidence to support that Jesus was real. I believe.
shroud of turin has been proven to be fake
@thinkingaboutit1906 Wrong. Just a few days ago they proved it is 2000 years old. Look it up. It's all over the news.
@@thinkingaboutit1906 check the news
Xray flax celuliod sugar molecules proved it to be 2000 years old.
@@unclematt3134 no it proves someone is desperate enough to make it true
40 years not 100
You’ll like the breakdown at the end of the video, I think 🙌
Yes that’s more reasonable but it was quite possibly mere years after with the first creeds already established and widely circulated within weeks. And the gospels may be some of the first ever peer reviewed factual documents because the community which included those thousands who walked with and saw Jesus accepted or rejected various writings based on their accuracy and obvious inspiration hence why the New Testament we have is the New Testament we have.
Historical Jesus is undeniable
It’s the rest of the stuff that is controversial or contested. The supernatural, rise from the dead stuff.
Let's all act like Christianity isn't vilified by it's enemies.
Awesome video! Thank you for sharing with millions of people! Love it. ❤
Is there any document written at the time Jesus was supposed to have been living which references him ? I’m doubtful since I haven’t seen any mention of it in any academic text book. I see plenty of historical figures mentioned, but not one reference to a historical Jesus.
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Thank you brother for your videos, very helpful and informative. God Bless
Praying for you Joe.
I never was in 9-11 but boy I can explain it to my grand kids because it was an IMPACT event.
Terrific commentary on Jesus
I think the problem with the external sources we have is that all of those writers were born after the death of Jesus. I believe the earliest external source is Josephus who was born 37 a.d. and doesn't write about Jesus for another 55 years later. Then you have to wonder why Josephus did not become a Christian considering what he supposedly wrote about Jesus? Tacitus was also born after the death of Jesus and does not write about Jesus until 116 a.d. The point I am trying to make is that external sources are writing about Jesus from the perspective of how Christians of their time viewed the concept of Jesus that could exist whether or not a historical Jesus actually existed. If you google how Tacitus got his information about the crucifixion of Jesus under Pontius Pilate he is recounting what he heard form the "Chrestians" themselves, not from official records.
In terms of using the internal sources of the New Testament, even that has problems in that it is not a bunch of personal accounts but a series of writers borrowing from other writers to create the stories of Jesus. If Matthew and Luke were eyewitnesses or used eyewitness accounts, why do they rely on other written stories, in particular the gospel of Mark, where Mark informs us he got his stories from Peter who also had influence on Paul. While John is a bit of an outlier, he still sticks somewhat to what the other writers wrote. These writers had an audience in mind and tailored the narrative to that audience. My point here is that there is plenty of room for doubt even using the bible itself, leaving the possibility of a fictional Jesus. If all options are available, we could have a fictional Jesus or a historical Jesus. If historical, then there is the matter of is it an exaggerated Jesus or perhaps still a fictional Jesus in the sense that the writers did not convey the actual teachings of Jesus but rather their version.
ATHEISM, RELIGIONS, DISHONOR, and ETERNAL DEATHS
Their own lives, dignities, and existence are clearly of no worth, value, and importance
to
Atheists
who
are obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their assertions and claims that GOD doesn't exist and the Bible is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS.
Their own lives, dignities, and existence are clearly of no worth, value, and importance
to
Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
are obviously unbothered and just don't care even if their Unbiblical teachings and doctrines about
"hellfire", "immortality of the souls", "afterlife", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
bring
them dishonor, disgrace, shame and cause their own downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS.
SUBMISSIVENESS and OBEDIENCE to the CREATOR and JESUS CHRIST bring HONOR and ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE on EARTH
The lives, dignities, and existence of human beings are of great worth, value, and importance
to
the CREATOR who KNOWS
that
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" written in Luke 4: 43
will
definitely bring honor and his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
to
lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" written in John 11: 25, 26
guarantees
that
loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
So many nonbelievers in Christianity simply say things that are completely inaccurate. How can you speak with conviction about something that you know nothing about?
The amount of cross referenced different sources (and written in a ‘reporting’ not ‘literary/myth’ style) is MASSIVE compared to any other historical figure (Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, etc). If Jesus was a ‘myth’, then NOTHING from history can be believed. Also, when various bibles containing the gospels of Christ from the first few centuries, and in various geographical locations with different languages and cultures, were examined - the texts match up over 98% of the words and grammatical meanings - which mean the first people passing on what they saw was held in such extreme importance, that NOBODY took liberty or flourishes with the reporting (NOT stories or myth). Nothing like that has happened in human history before or since in documenting anything.
Research & cross referencing is a wonderful thing. 🙏
Still glad that you are with us friend.
I don't know why those that choose not to believe try so hard to prove that Jesus as the son of god is not true. Why can't they just enjoy their beliefs with themselves?
Thousands of years and nothing has changed, the BATTLE to the DEATH on planet Earth
is still
ATHEISM and RELIGIONS versus the CREATOR and HIS CHRIST
Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
KNOW
and are fully aware that they are unitedly opposed, against, and -
1. will never ever accept that the Creator is the One who should be honored and respected as True and Sovereign God in their willful opposition and defiance of what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3
and
2. will never ever accept Jesus Christ too as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in their willful opposition and defiance of what's written in Matthew 28: 18.
The Creator KNOWS
that his favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4
is
definitely NOT for Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
but
ONLY for lowly, ordinary, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King
and
the teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
are
the guarantee
that
loving, kind, submissive, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as citizens and subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
Acts was written before Paul, Peter or James died because none of it is recorded. That places it in the early 60's at the latest. Gospel of Luke was written before that. Wallace would put it in the early 50's. Gospel of Mark was written before Luke wrote his gospel, placing Mark in the mid 40's at the latest.
Lets not sell the timeline short and believe the sceptics conclusions when it doesn't align with the evidence. Wallace has done a great job on this as well.
By him....to him.....for him!!! To God be the Glory!!!! ❤❤❤ My Lord & Savior!!!!❤❤✝️✝️✝️✝️
Great video!!
The thought of evidence outside of the bible is not wrongheaded. It's just seeking evidence to show those who do not believe that, at the very least, he was a real person. If you keep introducing the Bible you will lose those who are ardently against religion.
Mathew, Mark, Luke and John experienced life and wrote about it.
Back in that day when they wrote what they experienced with JESUS, they couldn’t call each other up, or get in the car and collaborate there experience with each other
i have a question for anyone who is in unbelief: which would be worse?
deciding to just take a tiny step out in faith and deciding to believe and trust Him now, even if all you can muster is as small as a mustard seed,
or waiting until this life is over and finding out it was all true AFTER the fact?
wouldn’t you rather step out in faith for a moment and allow God to work with that little bit of faith, or would you rather refuse that, not knowing what the consequence of that will be?
our ways are not His ways, neither are our thoughts His thoughts. His ways and thoughts are higher than ours.
There are no standard mainstream historians who think Jesus did not exist.
the bible is a fake book jesus never existed during the roman empire the jews and romans killed 25 million greeks destroy statues libraries academies and the most beautiful buildings mankind has ever seen and after that christian killers called us also pagans. The word DEMON is a Greek word and it is a good word in fact from this word we have the other Greek word EΥΔΑΙΜΟΝΙΑ that means bliss but the good Christian killers change the real meaning of the Greek word to suit their false doctrine. The difference between Greeks and Christians? The difference between the two is that the Greeks built a world based on observation and intellect, while the Christians built a world based on assumption and imagination. all the fake jesus stories are stolen from ancient greek literature even his form is stolen from the greek apollo tianneas the greeks teach mankind HOW to think not WHAT to think. the same people who create the jewish myth of jesus create the islamic myth so they control the east and the west.they even put the never existed fake jesus in time so they make their lie more believable.if you look at them all religions have one thing in common and that is they are all pedos fraudsters they blackmail people and threat people also they rape children traffick children and murder children.everything is about money and power they are the biggest criminals of humanity .nobody knows what or who god is or how the miracle of nature works that is why the greeks had the statue of the unknown god and they told us that we will never understand how nature works .THE GREEKS TAUGHT HUMANITY HOW TO THINK NOT WHAT TO THINK THAT IS WHY DURING THE ROMAN EMPIRE THEY KILLED MY ANCESTORS THEY STOP ART MUSIC EVEN THE OLYMPIC GAMES THEY STOP THESE GOOD CHRISTIAN MURDERERS .WE THE GREEKS WILL TAKE REVENGE IN THIS NEXT WORLD WAR WE WILL BURN ALL CHURCHES AND KILL ALL PRIESTS TO TAKE AT LIST SOME OF THE BLOOD BACK FOR MILLIONS OF OUR ANCESTORS THAT THE CHRISTIANS KILLED
Everything that I've seen, felt and experienced when it comes to Christianity, Jesus and God are REAL, and they're extremely powerful.