Also I should point out Medium format lenses have a certain quality, it could be the DOF or maybe the focal lengths but it's definitely noticeable compared to 35mm!
Your holistic approach to analogue is awesome. Your channel resonates with us die hards and new upcoming photogs. Your logic is refreshing and direction enables us to revisit our reasons why we create/capture moments using analogue. Thanks KJ.
Plus: there are even so much more and even more beautiful film cameras out there! So why getting broke with a dumb Leica? (Said by someone who had a Leica, sold it and has even more joy with a Minolta XD7)
I personally shoot 35mm, 120, and 4x5 and each has its place. If I want to go out and shoot a new location maybe I bring the 35mm to get more frames but if I have something in mind I wanna shoot I bring the 120 set up. If there is something really important or I want to slow down, I shoot the 4x5 large format and get the giant negative.
Must admit I love my GW690 much more than my Leica M2. Slows me down as I only have 8 shots, not to mention it’s the same aspect ratio as 35mm so I shoot it similar to that and you get the goodness of medium format, like you said more detail. But I agree with the “shoots whats best for the job” approach. Just some cameras work better than others in certain situations, that’s why I always carry both a medium format and a 35mm with me
If you’re drum scanning your film definitely medium format blows 35mm away, but most lab scanners can pull a ton of resolution and detail out of 35mm film. There’s a few reason I’ve never moved to medium format permanently and only shoot it on special occasions. 1. More film choices in 35mm. Everything from experimental films to Kodak vision3 movie film. With medium format bw isn’t an issue but for color you’re left with only the pro color negative stocks. 2. 35mm cameras are smaller and a lot of higher end models have faster shutters and more features such as advanced meters or better autofocus. 3. A much broader lens selection. You can get brand new modern glass for 35mm film bodies. I love sigma art and Zeiss lenses. 4. Development costs are about the same per roll but I can get 36 shots with 35mm and 8 with my preferred 6x9 medium format camera.
1. Irrelevant, 120 format has enough options and more are on the way. 2. That doesnt mean anything, and the 645 can out shoot a 35mm in shutter speed on the later models. 3. Who cares, you dont need a million lenses. 4. 120 is actually cheaper in a lot of labs, my medium format cameras shoot 15 shots per roll, so im not missing anything and 35mm film per box, (5 rolls) is about 10-25 USD more per box than 120 is. It costs more to shoot 35mm in the long run.
Some of the very best deals i photography gear today are 645 medium format cameras imo. The Bronica, Mamiya, Pentax etc are all pretty cheap for what you get. I'm extremely happy with my Bronica ETRSi. And the lenses for that system are not very expensive at all. Remarkable optical quality, though!
Medium format cameras can produce some killer photos, and I’m seriously thinking of bringing one with me when I’m doing landscapes. But otherwise, on account of the size of the cameras, I’ll stick with my 35mm for street and everything else 📸
I shoot 35mm because I enjoy the grit to the frames; I'm not looking for the fine texture of medium format. I end up shooting digital if I require high detail. But props to the medium format shooters! They are usually way more careful with their shot selection and take very beautiful images.
35mm is for fun and medium format is also for fun. That being said, I find more of my medium format images are "keepers" in 2019 where resolution has gotten so ridiculous on the digital end. Fav film at the moment: Fuji RDPIII
I really wanted Medium format and now I got it too. I bought a great Yashica-Mat LM for 120 film (I was using Lubitel 2 before, but after 1 roll I knew it isn't my camera), and a Minolta X-500 (with 50mm f/1.7) for nearly nothing, because it's like brand new. Now I have 35 mm and 120 covered (plus I have a Kiev 4A - soviet rangefinder and one half-size camera). With this set up I'm switching to film, because I feel MUCH happier shooting film and processing it than shooting digital.
Nice video! I have do add a very important factor which is makes medium format superior to SOME photographers: OPTICAL DEPTH/ "Three-Dimensionality"! Just as a lot people go for full frame in digital over crop sensor cameras, the medium format film emphasizes something very significant when it comes to rendering objects in a way more three-dimensional feel. It is about the size of the medium and the optics. the larger the format the more it is able to capture an almost 3-D kind of effect to the image, especially with prime lenses that have fewer glass elements than modern primes (which have a dozen elements to get rid of aberrations and distortion and all these things but also kill the optical depth). The effect will be visible most when shooting color film with a low ISO. Grain and black and white film often kill the effect. It is the same with crop sensor digital cameras. The images look flat and boring compared to full frame, which is why "pros" go for full frame and also because it is ofc the same size of a 35mm film frame. This was my no.1 reason why I fell in love with medium format. But I also very much enjoy 35mm film. It just depends on what you aim for and also what your "field" is. I used to do a lot of street and I would never go for a medium format there because of obvious size and weight reasons. And regarding resolution... well. 35mm is really plenty. When we look at movie productions shooting 35mm for the past 100 years and filling a huge canvas in the movies with a sharp image, there should be no issue with prints or resolution what so ever. A thing to consider here is that the 35mm film runs sideways through the photo camera and vertically in a movie camera, which means that the exposed frames is even much bigger in an analog photo camera, giving you more resolution. Also the movie industry often used the anamorphic process, which means that information is even compressed on that tiny space and later enlarged and uncompressed to get a wider view on the same space on the same medium, and the quality is still stunning. So the resolution factor in medium format is not really an issue to me - and also I personally like the slight diffuse feel 35mm images create. It depends also a lot on what film you buy. There is sharper film and there is less sharp film, but in the end it is all subjective.
Hell yah!!!! Medium format photography is like shooting cropped sensor to full sensor! Major difference in dynamic range and specially Shallow Depth of Field using lense that make for these results! Hands down medium format for me! Just wanted to add my two cents in there Johnathan! I see your Pentax there and the 105mmF2.4 is in my opinion the best portrait lens every made for portrait shooting! Again... My opinion.
Dynamic range has nothing to do with format, but with film. Slide film has the same dynamic range on 120 as im 35mm Film, as well as colour Negative and b&w...
Just received a 1950s vintage Japanese 6x4.5 medium format camera I ordered off eBay, and then I see this video in my feed. Glad to see you touching on this topic.
I started at a young age shooting medium format film cameras. Over the years, I have owned and used Mamiya, Fuji, Kodak, Ansco, Yashica, Polaroid, Zero Image, Diana, and Holga medium format film cameras. The Mamiya RB67 is my current favorite medium format film camera. Later in life, I began shooting small format film cameras. I have owned and used Nikon, Pentax, Fuji, Leica, Contax, Canon, Argus, Minolta, and Miranda 35mm film cameras. The Nikon F2 is my personal favorite 35mm film camera. Now, I also shoot large format film cameras. I have owned and used Graflex and Calumet 4x5 inch large format cameras. I have made 4x5 and 8x10 inch pinhole cameras.
Still think medium format is the best format for most things. I personally think all 35mm cameras create a very similar look where as medium format cameras all have their own really unique look. Plus the variety in aspect ratios is really nice about medium format
I shoot street style medium format with a Mamiya RZ67 Pro ii (10 exposures). It's super exciting because I was walking and focusing at the same time using Sunny 16 rules. I also shoot 4x5, and 35, but fell back to medium format for portraits. With the viewing screen of the RZ67Pii you can shoot sideways (while walking), upside down, and get incredible shots that have satin-like finish.
Been shooting 645 with a Bronica ETR-C the last couple weeks, It's a completely different experience to shooting 35mm on my Canonet and I fell in love instantly. My favourite lens by far is a 150mm f/3.5 and wide open it produces way more satisfying DOF and optical quality than my 35mm ever did with a 100mm f/2.8. 2 rolls of foma 200 in and I never want to stop, so much easier to load into a Paterson tank too!
Thank you for the video. I shoot both too my brother. Zenit 12XL 35mm and KIEV 88 CM 120. Also Nikon FM 35mm and Mamiya 645. The medium format are wonderful cameras to work with. My family in the Philippines loves to see them lol. My wife prefers using 35mm because she's tiny and her hands are small. That being said though...I LOVE shooting with them both!
This is a good overview, dude. I've been contemplating a 645 lately, scouring the markets. I don't shoot a ton of portraits or landscapes, so it's not something I'm really in a rush to do. Lost it at "which it shouldn't" 😂
Great video. I have been shooting both for a number of years now. There are some great cameras in both categories that take great pictures and are affordable. For those new to medium format don't let yourself get disappointed with the learning curves. That beautiful shallow depth of field everyone loves can be a pain in the butt at first because it takes awhile to get a handle on it. If you want to get most of the frame in focus you need to get in the habit of stopping down alot more. When I first started shooting 120 film I had alot of pictures that were a blurry mess because It took awhile to realize that shooting at F 8 on my 6x7 Koni Omega was like shooting at F 4 on my 35mm. There is a reason those lenses stop down to F 32. Once you get that nailed down though you can get spectacular results.
I have never shot medium format yet. I just bought a Mamiya 645 to start out with it. Ive been shooting 35mm since I was a kid so it'll be a nice change to try something new. my only gripe as you mentioned is only getting 12 shots per roll. It'll be hard to have to remember to hold back and shoot slower and not blow the whole roll.
Kyle Stella Buy one From John Titterington on eBay. He sells top mint SRT models of all varieties. He cleans them and adjusts them to use 1.5v batteries instead of obsolete 1.35v. You’ll be glad you did!
Ok so I was just looking about srts online from a forum years ago and just read about John Titterington like 1 minute ago for the first time and then you just told me so it was kinda weird but thanks for the advice
Kyle Stella Yeah that’s a coincidence. But he’s like a Minolta “go to” repair guy that’s been in the business or decades. I bought an SRT 101, and a 202 from him in the last two years and they both work flawlessly and the viewfinders are cleeean. He replaced the capacitors in my X700 too. He sells reconditioned Canon’s and Pentax SLRs too. I Can’t recommend him enough. I’m just a happy, repeat customer of his honestly.
one advantage MF has is interchangeable backs (those that offer it...like the Mamiya 645 pro) vs. 35mm slr's...technically some cameras can rewind a partial roll and remember which frame to reset it to when reloaded into the camera (Minolta a-9)...but in all practicality, to shoot two film stocks simultaneously you'll need a second camera body (like I did getting a second A-1)...35mm cameras are more available so getting parts for repairs is easier (cheaper) or just getting another body is also a cheaper option
From what I've seen Medium format is pretty incredible. With good film and a top notch camera, it can rial some of the best digital camera systems, IMO.
If you need medium format you'll know why; when you are asking others if YOU need to switch, probably I don't need to. You said it, the right tool for the right job. It is really that simple, no need to go deeper in the subject.
For a medium format 6x9 camera that weighs less than many 35mm cameras, check out the 6x9 Kodak Recomar, the 6x9 Voigtlander Bergheil or the 6x9 Zeiss Ikon Maximar with a Rada or Suydam 120 back.
I have both formats. I use both depending on what type of shooting it will e as you also said in this video. Good video by the way. I would love to see comparisons between 6x4.5 CM and 6x9cm photos. Side by side of the same subject whether it be portraits, landscapes etc. Of course action shots are almost a failure for medium format. Thanks for the videos!
Excellent intro for beginners. I especially liked your advice on cheap entry points to each format. With the recent resurgence of film, an inexpensive entry to 6x6 or 6x7 format is starting to get expensive - Rolleis, Hassies, Pentax (Penti?) and Mamiyas used to be gluts on the market, now they're getting scarce and pricey. How about a video on the least expensive entry points into high quality medium format? Just me sure that the names "Lomo" and "Diana' are not included - surest way to turn newbies off is to start with crappy gear and soft lenses. That's experimentation that ought to wait until they learn how to do it the right way. Andy
A M645 first gen is about $130 for the body, $75-140 for the lenses and about $120-150 for the waist level finder. All in total about $350-500 to get into medium format film
I shoot Nikon 35mm cameras and a Fujifilm XT10 digital camera. If you shoot with a 100 ISO or ultra sharp film, I think you may get a lot details as well.
The TLR form factor seems to be a great compromise with size and weight compared to SLRs. If I were gonna go full on medium format I would get a TLR to carry with me everywhere.
Vera Black TLRs are great. I just love my Rolleicord Model Is for their compact size. The quality is always better than shooting 35mm film most of the time and they are super solid travel companions.
Vera Black Great camera's! Silent! Square format...love it! No moving mirror, so no vibration of the body...sharper pic's Look at Vivian Mayer's work, made with a Rolleiflex💎💎💎💎💎
Vera Black TLR's have an advance in shooting close beside you in turning the cam. 90 degrees so you will not attract the attention from your subject . Try it, it works
i would add one thing. If resoution matter, go digital, there is just no competition. But medium format will achieve a look that no ff or 35 mm will. i do most of my streets shot on 35, coz the rez don t matter, but architecture is on digital ie.... but i bet that ektar100 on med format must be gorgeous though
I would like to find an older medium format camera for landscapes and portraits. The size and weight can't be that much different than shooting with a 1DX or a D5 (or the new versions coming out soon). Limited number of shots per roll is the main downside. I think medium format film is for those who are good with putting a lot of thought into each shot (composition and framing). Something I'd like to have fun with!
I only shoot digital but have mad respect for film. Really want a cheap medium format TLR just for fun because I’ve never used a medium format camera. I don’t wanna spend more than $150 (Ik.. im cheap 💀) any recommendations on a camera? The yashica Mat 124g has REALLY interested me for a while.
I've been shooting 35mm since the 70's.... I picked up medium format in the past year. If you can try different cameras and formats to see what fits your style. I'm still shooting 35mm and starting to gravitate towards 6x7, but also shoot 6x6.
I have my Nikon gear along with my Canon and Zeiss 35mm RF gear, but with my medium format I have my Bronica, Graflex XL, and a Vintage 1933 German Plaubel Makina II 6x9 Camera. I love old use gear....
If you people taking photographs just to post them on Insta, Facebook, etc. No point going bigger, because even if you get bigger Negative, and more Resolution it will be compressed anyway 🤷♂️. Where it matters is printing in darkroom or printing in general
Size does matter. The resolution of any camera is determined by the wavelength of light and aperture used. The wavelength of green light in the middle of the visible spectrum is about 0.55 µm. This represents the 'brush' which 'paints' the image on the film or sensor. When expressed in terms of the f-ratio of the lens, the smallest spot that can be 'painted', when expressed in µm is about 4f/3, owing to the fixed, finite wavelength of light. For example, if you set the aperture to be f/5.6, then the smallest spot that can be recorded on the film or sensor will be about 7.5 µm. This accounts for why medium format film can capture more detail than 35-mm film, and is why the resolution of 35-mm film or a full-frame sensor is better than an APS-C sensor. In addition, lenses also have aberrations (imperfections) which generally get worse as the aperture increases (f-ratio decreases) and thus this formula should be regarded as the best case. In practice, most camera lenses work best at around f/5.6-f/8.
I shoot both plus digital. Size doesn’t matter at all when I am shooting on my puny Nikon 1 with its little bitty 1” sensor. My wife says the photos are more than adequate. But with my Fuji 6x9, the massive negative does seem to give a more “confident” image.
I collect cameras mainly kodak's but out of the 85 cameras that I have one 4 x 5, graflex the rest are split about evenly between medium format and DLC 135. A lot of DLC 135 cameras early 1940s and 1950s usually have problems. The range finding lenses don't work or the film advance doesn't work or the counters don't work or something. I can turn my Rangefinder into a view Camera really easy by just guesstimating the distance of course and that's what I do. But here's the thing that I really don't like about DLC 135. I have to take 24 Shots or 36 shots every time I go out. With my medium format camera especially my 6 x 9 I only need 8. They quit making DLC 135 with 12 exposure film and that really bummed me out. I have a German DLC 135 half frame camera which is even worse I get about 70 shots out of it and seems like it takes me all summer.
Minolta gang all day! I have three 35mm cameras that all are in rotation. But medium format has been peeking my interest for month now. Not sure when I’ll pull the trigger or what brand
Great video BUT just one little thing: When it comes to 120 film you get between 8 frames (when 6x9, for example the Fujica GL690) and 15/16 frames (when you have a 6x4,5 camera like my Mamiya 645). ;)
I’m shooting 35mm on a Ziess Contaflex, 120 on a Mamiya C330 and 4x5 on a new camera I picked up I can’t remember the name of it right now but if you’re going to go for quality the 4x5 format is gorgeous
I sure hope you looked down at the cameras when "If size matters....and it shouldn't." Walking around with a Pentax 67 is like throwing a bowling ball around instead of a baseball. You can do it, but not for long. But that's why they make monopods & tripods. I personally shoot whatever format best fits the subject I'm shooting even though I prefer medium format. My first real camera was a Yashica Mat TLR, so I'm used to shooting medium format. But if I'm shooting sports it's 35mm. If I shoot architecture it's 4x5. If I shoot portraits, weddings or events it's medium format. By the way, if you ever want to get rid of that Pentax hit me up first. I've got a nice Sinar F I'd be willing to trade. I've gone with a Toyo Field 4x5 so I can go further afield with it.
Don't lenses impact resolution just as much? So a better lens on a 35mm would compensate for resolution? Are there medium format point and shoot cameras??
I love 35mm for most situations, but in this modern age, 35mm (even with professional scans) is dog shit for resolution, even when compared to a crop digital sensor. I think medium format is the way to go for anything more serious such as studio work, planned portrait sessions, and fine art photography. I personally think the Mamiya 6 is the perfect camera due to it's relative ease of carry (normally a problem with medium format). A slight improvement in image quality can be had with a Pentax 67 or Mamiya RZ/RB67, but those are SLR's and are massive to carry around.
Have you tried straight projection? You can easily trow a 2m detailed image to watch from some 2-3m distance, filling your field of view. I mean - one can shoot across a river Daugava on a tripod and make out traffic signs on the opposite bank (approx 500m)! How's that for a shit resolution? It's just a matter of film, lens and processing choice. And lens on both sides - camera and projector
Maybe in the US you can get Pentax 67 for really cheap but over here in Europe prices for medium format cameras in general can jump thru the roof. Recently I stumbled upon Mamiya 645 ProTL; the guy wanted almost $900, but to my mind it was so beaten up, worth for parts only...
If you can get a couple of 67 bodies and a selection of lenses for $1000-$1600 over in the US I am envious! A decent body and 105 is going to cost you $1200 in Europe.
I’m shooting a dashi 120 toy camera for medium format and have lots of fun with it lol, no focusing, no control over shutter, just shooting, and I got the camera for free so 🤷🏽♂️
hi! i loved the pentax 645, really less heavy thant the RB67! the rb67 is a great camera but it's a pain to carry. Also the pentax 645 viewfinder was great, like a 35mm SLR. It's more tricky to learn to frame with the 124g or the RB67 when you're not used to!
Sebastián Vivanco AHA! 3 different flavors all to be tasted! I have done the same: Bronica 645, 124G, Kiev 60, and Fuji GW680. That covers SLR with and without removable backs, TLR, and rangefinder, in a variety of sizes and aspect ratios. Operating each in its own style is fun. Good goal!
they tend to be more cheaply made. but the glass has a great look to it. I have used both Zenit and Fed with great results. The Kiev and Kiev 2 are best built since it is just a rebranded Contax basically. fun cameras
The Tony Cam If it doesn’t work, buy one from John Titterington on eBay. He sells reconditioned Minolta SRTs with a warranty actually. They are like new and recommend buying from him.
The Tony Cam Awe dang. Sorry to hear it may be too late. But search on ebay seller:titterington I don’t see he has a Minolta atm, but I’m sure of you Ask Seller a question if he has a SRT101 he may have one just not ready yet. I asked him about a SRT202 and he had one reconditioned in like 3 days and I bought it. Try this rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F383230007877
I shoot 35mm. Minolta XD11. If I start shooting film for my wedding gigs, I may invest in medium format, but a well developed quality scan of a 35mm negative is plenty resolution for most applications, honestly. Unless you’re printing giant gallery pieces, I think resolution is way way overrated.
This video was perfect for me. I wanna go big, after twenty years of 35mm. Would you please write down for me a short list of the best medium format to buy, clearly used, unless you can buy a new one for $1600/1800. I don't it. Thanks a lot. I will wait for your reply. Good work.
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Also I should point out Medium format lenses have a certain quality, it could be the DOF or maybe the focal lengths but it's definitely noticeable compared to 35mm!
KingJvpes i love it
It’s actually related to the geometry of the light as it passes through the lens and is projected as a larger image. The refraction is greater
love, love, love throwing my MF film lenses (Mamiya 80mm/1.9) on my digital cameras...
deltadave44 wich lenses on what digital body?
"you can buy 2 Pentax 67 bodies and some lenses" not in 2021 😭
“If size matters for u... which it shouldn’t” LMAO
Dude says it 'cause he's Asian.
"If size matters for you" lol thats why i love your channel
Your holistic approach to analogue is awesome. Your channel resonates with us die hards and new upcoming photogs. Your logic is refreshing and direction enables us to revisit our reasons why we create/capture moments using analogue.
Thanks KJ.
Thanks Aristo!
shoot what you can afford lol people out here dropping thousands on a leica, glass, and film, but can barely pay rent. sheesh.
Mike Borzage Hits me hard and i dont even own a leica.
Plus: there are even so much more and even more beautiful film cameras out there! So why getting broke with a dumb Leica? (Said by someone who had a Leica, sold it and has even more joy with a Minolta XD7)
My friend has an old Hasselblad medium format and I'm afraid that if I see it, I might get hooked! 🙂
tbh I even see persons using disposable cameras like the Kodak funsaver and the photos are actually pretty good
Bob McKay it happened to me, I borrowed a Hassy from a friend and HAD to go buy my own!
Here down in Australia (in AUD):
Canon AE-1 Program + 50mm f1.8 = ~$230
Pentax 67 (No Lens) = $500
I personally shoot 35mm, 120, and 4x5 and each has its place. If I want to go out and shoot a new location maybe I bring the 35mm to get more frames but if I have something in mind I wanna shoot I bring the 120 set up. If there is something really important or I want to slow down, I shoot the 4x5 large format and get the giant negative.
Must admit I love my GW690 much more than my Leica M2. Slows me down as I only have 8 shots, not to mention it’s the same aspect ratio as 35mm so I shoot it similar to that and you get the goodness of medium format, like you said more detail. But I agree with the “shoots whats best for the job” approach. Just some cameras work better than others in certain situations, that’s why I always carry both a medium format and a 35mm with me
If you’re drum scanning your film definitely medium format blows 35mm away, but most lab scanners can pull a ton of resolution and detail out of 35mm film. There’s a few reason I’ve never moved to medium format permanently and only shoot it on special occasions.
1. More film choices in 35mm. Everything from experimental films to Kodak vision3 movie film. With medium format bw isn’t an issue but for color you’re left with only the pro color negative stocks.
2. 35mm cameras are smaller and a lot of higher end models have faster shutters and more features such as advanced meters or better autofocus.
3. A much broader lens selection. You can get brand new modern glass for 35mm film bodies. I love sigma art and Zeiss lenses.
4. Development costs are about the same per roll but I can get 36 shots with 35mm and 8 with my preferred 6x9 medium format camera.
1. Irrelevant, 120 format has enough options and more are on the way.
2. That doesnt mean anything, and the 645 can out shoot a 35mm in shutter speed on the later models.
3. Who cares, you dont need a million lenses.
4. 120 is actually cheaper in a lot of labs, my medium format cameras shoot 15 shots per roll, so im not missing anything and 35mm film per box, (5 rolls) is about 10-25 USD more per box than 120 is. It costs more to shoot 35mm in the long run.
@@pilsplease7561 yeah great insight on both!
Some of the very best deals i photography gear today are 645 medium format cameras imo. The Bronica, Mamiya, Pentax etc are all pretty cheap for what you get. I'm extremely happy with my Bronica ETRSi. And the lenses for that system are not very expensive at all. Remarkable optical quality, though!
Medium format cameras can produce some killer photos, and I’m seriously thinking of bringing one with me when I’m doing landscapes. But otherwise, on account of the size of the cameras, I’ll stick with my 35mm for street and everything else 📸
I really like my 35 mm film camera it’s a Minolta X700
I shoot 35mm because I enjoy the grit to the frames; I'm not looking for the fine texture of medium format. I end up shooting digital if I require high detail. But props to the medium format shooters! They are usually way more careful with their shot selection and take very beautiful images.
I shoot several formats depending on what I’m looking for
35, 6-6, 4x5, 6-4.5, pin hole 35 and 4x5. I have yet to get some 110 to see if my childhood camera works :p
35mm is for fun and medium format is also for fun. That being said, I find more of my medium format images are "keepers" in 2019 where resolution has gotten so ridiculous on the digital end. Fav film at the moment: Fuji RDPIII
I really wanted Medium format and now I got it too.
I bought a great Yashica-Mat LM for 120 film (I was using Lubitel 2 before, but after 1 roll I knew it isn't my camera), and a Minolta X-500 (with 50mm f/1.7) for nearly nothing, because it's like brand new. Now I have 35 mm and 120 covered (plus I have a Kiev 4A - soviet rangefinder and one half-size camera).
With this set up I'm switching to film, because I feel MUCH happier shooting film and processing it than shooting digital.
I shot my first roll of 120 not too long ago it was illford b&w on a yashica mat 124g I purchased. I was super impressed with the 6x6 format.
1:36 : "Because of the larger aspect ratio...". Aspect ratio is not the same as sensor size and has nothing to do with quality...
I shoot both but find myself having to psych myself up to go out with the medium format. 35mm is just so simple. I gravitate to that usually.
Love the video ! My set up right now is the Canon A1 50mm & Mamiya RB67 but thinking of switching my Mamiya for something more mobile
Nice video! I have do add a very important factor which is makes medium format superior to SOME photographers: OPTICAL DEPTH/ "Three-Dimensionality"!
Just as a lot people go for full frame in digital over crop sensor cameras, the medium format film emphasizes something very significant when it comes to rendering objects in a way more three-dimensional feel.
It is about the size of the medium and the optics. the larger the format the more it is able to capture an almost 3-D kind of effect to the image, especially with prime lenses that have fewer glass elements than modern primes (which have a dozen elements to get rid of aberrations and distortion and all these things but also kill the optical depth).
The effect will be visible most when shooting color film with a low ISO. Grain and black and white film often kill the effect.
It is the same with crop sensor digital cameras. The images look flat and boring compared to full frame, which is why "pros" go for full frame and also because it is ofc the same size of a 35mm film frame.
This was my no.1 reason why I fell in love with medium format. But I also very much enjoy 35mm film. It just depends on what you aim for and also what your "field" is. I used to do a lot of street and I would never go for a medium format there because of obvious size and weight reasons.
And regarding resolution... well. 35mm is really plenty. When we look at movie productions shooting 35mm for the past 100 years and filling a huge canvas in the movies with a sharp image, there should be no issue with prints or resolution what so ever. A thing to consider here is that the 35mm film runs sideways through the photo camera and vertically in a movie camera, which means that the exposed frames is even much bigger in an analog photo camera, giving you more resolution.
Also the movie industry often used the anamorphic process, which means that information is even compressed on that tiny space and later enlarged and uncompressed to get a wider view on the same space on the same medium, and the quality is still stunning. So the resolution factor in medium format is not really an issue to me - and also I personally like the slight diffuse feel 35mm images create. It depends also a lot on what film you buy. There is sharper film and there is less sharp film, but in the end it is all subjective.
Hell yah!!!! Medium format photography is like shooting cropped sensor to full sensor! Major difference in dynamic range and specially Shallow Depth of Field using lense that make for these results! Hands down medium format for me! Just wanted to add my two cents in there Johnathan! I see your Pentax there and the 105mmF2.4 is in my opinion the best portrait lens every made for portrait shooting! Again... My opinion.
Dynamic range has nothing to do with format, but with film. Slide film has the same dynamic range on 120 as im 35mm Film, as well as colour Negative and b&w...
Just received a 1950s vintage Japanese 6x4.5 medium format camera I ordered off eBay, and then I see this video in my feed. Glad to see you touching on this topic.
I started at a young age shooting medium format film cameras. Over the years, I have owned and used Mamiya, Fuji, Kodak, Ansco, Yashica, Polaroid, Zero Image, Diana, and Holga medium format film cameras. The Mamiya RB67 is my current favorite medium format film camera.
Later in life, I began shooting small format film cameras. I have owned and used Nikon, Pentax, Fuji, Leica, Contax, Canon, Argus, Minolta, and Miranda 35mm film cameras. The Nikon F2 is my personal favorite 35mm film camera.
Now, I also shoot large format film cameras. I have owned and used Graflex and Calumet 4x5 inch large format cameras. I have made 4x5 and 8x10 inch pinhole cameras.
Still think medium format is the best format for most things. I personally think all 35mm cameras create a very similar look where as medium format cameras all have their own really unique look. Plus the variety in aspect ratios is really nice about medium format
Picked up an rb67 two weeks ago and it should be here this week! I’m hyped to start shooting medium format
I shoot street style medium format with a Mamiya RZ67 Pro ii (10 exposures). It's super exciting because I was walking and focusing at the same time using Sunny 16 rules.
I also shoot 4x5, and 35, but fell back to medium format for portraits.
With the viewing screen of the RZ67Pii you can shoot sideways (while walking), upside down, and get incredible shots that have satin-like finish.
Been shooting 645 with a Bronica ETR-C the last couple weeks, It's a completely different experience to shooting 35mm on my Canonet and I fell in love instantly. My favourite lens by far is a 150mm f/3.5 and wide open it produces way more satisfying DOF and optical quality than my 35mm ever did with a 100mm f/2.8. 2 rolls of foma 200 in and I never want to stop, so much easier to load into a Paterson tank too!
Thank you for the video.
I shoot both too my brother. Zenit 12XL 35mm and KIEV 88 CM 120. Also Nikon FM 35mm and Mamiya 645.
The medium format are wonderful cameras to work with. My family in the Philippines loves to see them lol.
My wife prefers using 35mm because she's tiny and her hands are small.
That being said though...I LOVE shooting with them both!
This is a good overview, dude. I've been contemplating a 645 lately, scouring the markets. I don't shoot a ton of portraits or landscapes, so it's not something I'm really in a rush to do.
Lost it at "which it shouldn't"
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HAHA thanks Colin!
Great video. I have been shooting both for a number of years now. There are some great cameras in both categories that take great pictures and are affordable.
For those new to medium format don't let yourself get disappointed with the learning curves. That beautiful shallow depth of field everyone loves can be a pain in the butt at first because it takes awhile to get a handle on it. If you want to get most of the frame in focus you need to get in the habit of stopping down alot more. When I first started shooting 120 film I had alot of pictures that were a blurry mess because It took awhile to realize that shooting at F 8 on my 6x7 Koni Omega was like shooting at F 4 on my 35mm. There is a reason those lenses stop down to F 32. Once you get that nailed down though you can get spectacular results.
I have never shot medium format yet. I just bought a Mamiya 645 to start out with it. Ive been shooting 35mm since I was a kid so it'll be a nice change to try something new. my only gripe as you mentioned is only getting 12 shots per roll. It'll be hard to have to remember to hold back and shoot slower and not blow the whole roll.
About to pull the trigger on buying a srt 101 and I’m super excited cause it will be my first film camera
Kyle Stella Buy one From John Titterington on eBay. He sells top mint SRT models of all varieties. He cleans them and adjusts them to use 1.5v batteries instead of obsolete 1.35v. You’ll be glad you did!
Ok so I was just looking about srts online from a forum years ago and just read about John Titterington like 1 minute ago for the first time and then you just told me so it was kinda weird but thanks for the advice
Kyle Stella Yeah that’s a coincidence. But he’s like a Minolta “go to” repair guy that’s been in the business or decades. I bought an SRT 101, and a 202 from him in the last two years and they both work flawlessly and the viewfinders are cleeean. He replaced the capacitors in my X700 too. He sells reconditioned Canon’s and Pentax SLRs too. I Can’t recommend him enough. I’m just a happy, repeat customer of his honestly.
one advantage MF has is interchangeable backs (those that offer it...like the Mamiya 645 pro) vs. 35mm slr's...technically some cameras can rewind a partial roll and remember which frame to reset it to when reloaded into the camera (Minolta a-9)...but in all practicality, to shoot two film stocks simultaneously you'll need a second camera body (like I did getting a second A-1)...35mm cameras are more available so getting parts for repairs is easier (cheaper) or just getting another body is also a cheaper option
From what I've seen Medium format is pretty incredible. With good film and a top notch camera, it can rial some of the best digital camera systems, IMO.
If you need medium format you'll know why; when you are asking others if YOU need to switch, probably I don't need to.
You said it, the right tool for the right job.
It is really that simple, no need to go deeper in the subject.
I have been really lucky recently and found a Nikon FE2 and A Hasselblad 500cm in our long-forgotten storage unit can't wait to be shoot both formats
For a medium format 6x9 camera that weighs less than many 35mm cameras, check out the 6x9 Kodak Recomar, the 6x9 Voigtlander Bergheil or the 6x9 Zeiss Ikon Maximar with a Rada or Suydam 120 back.
I have both formats. I use both depending on what type of shooting it will e as you also said in this video. Good video by the way. I would love to see comparisons between 6x4.5 CM and 6x9cm photos. Side by side of the same subject whether it be portraits, landscapes etc. Of course action shots are almost a failure for medium format. Thanks for the videos!
Excellent intro for beginners. I especially liked your advice on cheap entry points to each format. With the recent resurgence of film, an inexpensive entry to 6x6 or 6x7 format is starting to get expensive - Rolleis, Hassies, Pentax (Penti?) and Mamiyas used to be gluts on the market, now they're getting scarce and pricey. How about a video on the least expensive entry points into high quality medium format? Just me sure that the names "Lomo" and "Diana' are not included - surest way to turn newbies off is to start with crappy gear and soft lenses. That's experimentation that ought to wait until they learn how to do it the right way. Andy
A M645 first gen is about $130 for the body, $75-140 for the lenses and about $120-150 for the waist level finder. All in total about $350-500 to get into medium format film
I shoot Nikon 35mm cameras and a Fujifilm XT10 digital camera. If you shoot with a 100 ISO or ultra sharp film, I think you may get a lot details as well.
Oh, a ton of details when doing a straight projection of reverse processed BW film - far surpasses what we're expecting from it on paper.
The TLR form factor seems to be a great compromise with size and weight compared to SLRs. If I were gonna go full on medium format I would get a TLR to carry with me everywhere.
Vera Black TLRs are great. I just love my Rolleicord Model Is for their compact size. The quality is always better than shooting 35mm film most of the time and they are super solid travel companions.
Vera Black Great camera's! Silent! Square format...love it! No moving mirror, so no vibration of the body...sharper pic's
Look at Vivian Mayer's work, made with a Rolleiflex💎💎💎💎💎
Vera Black TLR's have an advance in shooting close beside you in turning the cam. 90 degrees so you will not attract the attention from your subject .
Try it, it works
I just got into film. Loving my Minolta x370. But just learned about medium from you. Doing a lot of portraits so I’m gonna look into medium!
This video was needed, thank u king
i would add one thing. If resoution matter, go digital, there is just no competition. But medium format will achieve a look that no ff or 35 mm will. i do most of my streets shot on 35, coz the rez don t matter, but architecture is on digital ie.... but i bet that ektar100 on med format must be gorgeous though
I would like to find an older medium format camera for landscapes and portraits. The size and weight can't be that much different than shooting with a 1DX or a D5 (or the new versions coming out soon). Limited number of shots per roll is the main downside. I think medium format film is for those who are good with putting a lot of thought into each shot (composition and framing). Something I'd like to have fun with!
I only shoot digital but have mad respect for film. Really want a cheap medium format TLR just for fun because I’ve never used a medium format camera. I don’t wanna spend more than $150 (Ik.. im cheap 💀) any recommendations on a camera? The yashica Mat 124g has REALLY interested me for a while.
One day you'll shoot some large format :-)
It's a different style than you normally shoot I would feel but I think you would fall in love.
I've been shooting 35mm since the 70's.... I picked up medium format in the past year. If you can try different cameras and formats to see what fits your style. I'm still shooting 35mm and starting to gravitate towards 6x7, but also shoot 6x6.
35mm for me 👌
I have my Nikon gear along with my Canon and Zeiss 35mm RF gear, but with my medium format I have my Bronica, Graflex XL, and a Vintage 1933 German Plaubel Makina II 6x9 Camera. I love old use gear....
If you people taking photographs just to post them on Insta, Facebook, etc. No point going bigger, because even if you get bigger Negative, and more Resolution it will be compressed anyway 🤷♂️. Where it matters is printing in darkroom or printing in general
Size does matter. The resolution of any camera is determined by the wavelength of light and aperture used. The wavelength of green light in the middle of the visible spectrum is about 0.55 µm. This represents the 'brush' which 'paints' the image on the film or sensor. When expressed in terms of the f-ratio of the lens, the smallest spot that can be 'painted', when expressed in µm is about 4f/3, owing to the fixed, finite wavelength of light. For example, if you set the aperture to be f/5.6, then the smallest spot that can be recorded on the film or sensor will be about 7.5 µm. This accounts for why medium format film can capture more detail than 35-mm film, and is why the resolution of 35-mm film or a full-frame sensor is better than an APS-C sensor. In addition, lenses also have aberrations (imperfections) which generally get worse as the aperture increases (f-ratio decreases) and thus this formula should be regarded as the best case. In practice, most camera lenses work best at around f/5.6-f/8.
Thank you so much for that video! Very helpful to understand the big differences, I'll go for a 120!
I shoot both plus digital. Size doesn’t matter at all when I am shooting on my puny Nikon 1 with its little bitty 1” sensor. My wife says the photos are more than adequate.
But with my Fuji 6x9, the massive negative does seem to give a more “confident” image.
Last time i used a camera with film, was in 1997. Is it just a certain look people are after, or why not just stick with digital?
I collect cameras mainly kodak's but out of the 85 cameras that I have one 4 x 5, graflex the rest are split about evenly between medium format and DLC 135. A lot of DLC 135 cameras early 1940s and 1950s usually have problems. The range finding lenses don't work or the film advance doesn't work or the counters don't work or something. I can turn my Rangefinder into a view Camera really easy by just guesstimating the distance of course and that's what I do. But here's the thing that I really don't like about DLC 135. I have to take 24 Shots or 36 shots every time I go out. With my medium format camera especially my 6 x 9 I only need 8. They quit making DLC 135 with 12 exposure film and that really bummed me out. I have a German DLC 135 half frame camera which is even worse I get about 70 shots out of it and seems like it takes me all summer.
Minolta gang all day! I have three 35mm cameras that all are in rotation. But medium format has been peeking my interest for month now. Not sure when I’ll pull the trigger or what brand
Great video BUT just one little thing: When it comes to 120 film you get between 8 frames (when 6x9, for example the Fujica GL690) and 15/16 frames (when you have a 6x4,5 camera like my Mamiya 645).
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I shoot 35mm Digital and an RB67 for film. Excellent combo if you ask me
I totaly agree to your conclusion : shoot both. And shoot digital too !
I really enjoyed shooting the p67 recently, I just wish it wasn't such a beast to carry around. great vid bro, thank you for sharing!
Imagine lugging around the Mamiya RB67 😩 I still love it though
I’m shooting 35mm on a Ziess Contaflex, 120 on a Mamiya C330 and 4x5 on a new camera I picked up I can’t remember the name of it right now but if you’re going to go for quality the 4x5 format is gorgeous
I sure hope you looked down at the cameras when "If size matters....and it shouldn't." Walking around with a Pentax 67 is like throwing a bowling ball around instead of a baseball. You can do it, but not for long. But that's why they make monopods & tripods. I personally shoot whatever format best fits the subject I'm shooting even though I prefer medium format. My first real camera was a Yashica Mat TLR, so I'm used to shooting medium format. But if I'm shooting sports it's 35mm. If I shoot architecture it's 4x5. If I shoot portraits, weddings or events it's medium format. By the way, if you ever want to get rid of that Pentax hit me up first. I've got a nice Sinar F I'd be willing to trade. I've gone with a Toyo Field 4x5 so I can go further afield with it.
When I go shooting I bring a GW690 for the real shots and a Olympus Pen EE for the snaps
Don't lenses impact resolution just as much? So a better lens on a 35mm would compensate for resolution? Are there medium format point and shoot cameras??
I love 35mm for most situations, but in this modern age, 35mm (even with professional scans) is dog shit for resolution, even when compared to a crop digital sensor. I think medium format is the way to go for anything more serious such as studio work, planned portrait sessions, and fine art photography. I personally think the Mamiya 6 is the perfect camera due to it's relative ease of carry (normally a problem with medium format). A slight improvement in image quality can be had with a Pentax 67 or Mamiya RZ/RB67, but those are SLR's and are massive to carry around.
Have you tried straight projection? You can easily trow a 2m detailed image to watch from some 2-3m distance, filling your field of view.
I mean - one can shoot across a river Daugava on a tripod and make out traffic signs on the opposite bank (approx 500m)! How's that for a shit resolution?
It's just a matter of film, lens and processing choice. And lens on both sides - camera and projector
Maybe in the US you can get Pentax 67 for really cheap but over here in Europe prices for medium format cameras in general can jump thru the roof. Recently I stumbled upon Mamiya 645 ProTL; the guy wanted almost $900, but to my mind it was so beaten up, worth for parts only...
Question: If I want to shoot products, and say I want to blow up an image to 11x17 (portfolio size), medium format? Or will 35 serve me well.
If you can get a couple of 67 bodies and a selection of lenses for $1000-$1600 over in the US I am envious! A decent body and 105 is going to cost you $1200 in Europe.
I’m shooting a dashi 120 toy camera for medium format and have lots of fun with it lol, no focusing, no control over shutter, just shooting, and I got the camera for free so 🤷🏽♂️
I want to buy a medium format camera. I have 3 options: Yashica Mat 124G, Pentax 645N, Mamiya RB67 SDPRO
hi! i loved the pentax 645, really less heavy thant the RB67! the rb67 is a great camera but it's a pain to carry. Also the pentax 645 viewfinder was great, like a 35mm SLR. It's more tricky to learn to frame with the 124g or the RB67 when you're not used to!
Those are very different cameras. How is it that you only have those 3 “options”?
@@mikejankowski6321 those are cameras that i wanna buy and collect them
Sebastián Vivanco AHA! 3 different flavors all to be tasted! I have done the same: Bronica 645, 124G, Kiev 60, and Fuji GW680. That covers SLR with and without removable backs, TLR, and rangefinder, in a variety of sizes and aspect ratios. Operating each in its own style is fun. Good goal!
What are your thoughts on Soviet cameras? Fed, Zorki, Zenit, Kiev, etc.
they tend to be more cheaply made. but the glass has a great look to it. I have used both Zenit and Fed with great results. The Kiev and Kiev 2 are best built since it is just a rebranded Contax basically. fun cameras
Thank you King Japes I'm waiting for my minolta srt101 (i hope it works!) and I have you to thank for inspiring me to get into film photography.
The Tony Cam If it doesn’t work, buy one from John Titterington on eBay. He sells reconditioned Minolta SRTs with a warranty actually. They are like new and recommend buying from him.
@@Gabez82 I wish I saw this 3 days ago do you have a direct link to his seller page on ebay?
The Tony Cam Awe dang. Sorry to hear it may be too late. But search on ebay seller:titterington
I don’t see he has a Minolta atm, but I’m sure of you Ask Seller a question if he has a SRT101 he may have one just not ready yet. I asked him about a SRT202 and he had one reconditioned in like 3 days and I bought it. Try this
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@@Gabez82 cool! I'll check it out right now
I shoot 35mm. Minolta XD11. If I start shooting film for my wedding gigs, I may invest in medium format, but a well developed quality scan of a 35mm negative is plenty resolution for most applications, honestly. Unless you’re printing giant gallery pieces, I think resolution is way way overrated.
I love my Nikon F6. Best 35mm camera I’ve used.
If I had to choose a camera to use as a weapon to fight of a herd of hyenas I would choose the Pentax 67
Solid content bro!! ilove the content!!!!!!
The difference is tones! It's the bloody TONES!!!! #Portraboys
I've recently gone medium format (6x4.5) so I can shoot wide on a 55mm.
Do you have any recommendations for a m42 film body, I have been using a fujica st701 and need something more advanced thx
What lens was used to film this? Thanks!
Brian Benjamin kit lens!
I shoot 35mm rangefinders and 6x6 reflex but the thing that isn't different in both cases is that cameras and lenses comes from the Soviet Union :P
Hi there, where did you get that grip????
I wanna Canon new f-1 with ae finder, but second hand market in my region is very poor :(
tysm for this vid, so helpful! :)
This video was perfect for me. I wanna go big, after twenty years of 35mm. Would you please write down for me a short list of the best medium format to buy, clearly used, unless you can buy a new one for $1600/1800. I don't it.
Thanks a lot.
I will wait for your reply. Good work.
Giuseppe Nativo when I get the money rz67 is where I’m leaning. The RB67 is affordable
Giuseppe Nativo Pentax 67 or Pentax 67ii
Yashica Mat 124g (6x6
Mamiya rb67
Any 645!
@@brianbenjamin4574 thanks a lot
@@KingJvpes thank you very much.
I will look for these models. I didn't say but i really liked your video on "photography with a meaning". The story of your grand father. I did something love this, many years ago with my loved Grandpa. Photography can be like magic sometimes. Have a good day
really need to try medium format
You could start with a Lubitel, they can be bought for 20-40€ used and they shoot 6x6 120 film, they may be cheap but the image quality is nice
Do you still know how to play sleep walk by Richie valens ? If you do can you do a tutorial I really want to learn it and your a beast at...
Or both!
thanks. that was helpful
I love the two
Love this video
why not both?
16 frames with 6*4,5 format :)
5:26 The most informative part of this video lol
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All my good Medium format cameras are currently broken. :( I need to fix at least one. :)
Medium format is insanely expensive
went right into medium format