Two obscenely overpriced vehicles out of reach for almost all of us. At least the Raptor R makes sense as an off-road toy. Watching the Hummer EV offroad is like watching an elephant trying figure skating.
Comically, the Raptor R is only great off-road in comparison to the Hummer EV. The Raptor R is massive and heavy, with most of the weight in the front leaving little for rear grip. Low end power surges, making it hard to control the throttle and prevent breaking traction at any speed. This is designed for desert Baja racing, not slow tight off road trails and rock trailing. That just goes to show how horrible the Hummer EV is in all conditions.
They asked Henry Ford, "What do people want?" and he replied, "A faster horse". The only people who want faster horses have never driven an automobile.
@dmegahan Yea - Not really a competition. The Raptor R is a soulless reflection of a bygone era that has the sounds of a death struggle. The hummer is big and overweight but a very capable truck for a small market. Nothing wrong with Ford in general, the Raptor R is a cheap grab by Ford for money from a gullible fanboy base that has lost their way.
@@kelviskelvis7140You are hilarious. It’s not a “bygone era”. Even if electric vehicles replace ICE, it won’t be for at least 10 years here. Also you have no room to talk about a “gullible fanbase that lost their way” while simultaneously talking up the Hummer EV.
@@kelviskelvis7140 In case you are still living under a rock, there's a new sheriff in town. Government EV mandates are going to be a thing of the past very soon. There will always be a small market for EV's, but they will never replace ICE, at least not in my lifetime. The tech is just not there yet.
@@kelviskelvis7140except the Hummer is not capable. You are probably broke, but if you ever get the chance to drive a Raptor on the highway you understand it’s capability. Quiet and comfortable. Then also, it can dominate off road.
Come on now!!! Is this even a real question? Which is better, a vacuum cleaner sounding ugly contraption or a bad-ass supercharged V8 growling mean monster?! 🏁🏁
And I'd take a lucid sapphire over just about anything. So now that we've established people aren't homogeneous how about you quit being a moody bitch.
What I would like to see in an episode as an actual breakdown of what an EV cost emissions wise to create the batteries and how much emissions are created to provide the charging process to charge the batteries and so-called zero emissions vehicles, and how long it would actually take to make the emissions of a zero missions vehicle based on manufacturing break even
Why stop there? How much energy does it take to get oil out of the ground? How much pollution does that cause? Fracking, oil spills, pumps breaking in the ocean or pipes bursting on land. How much pollution is caused to transport crude oil across the ocean, then to a refinery, then the transportation to get it to the gas station, and the pollution made by the customer who then needs to drive their ICE vehicle to the gas station to get it. How many old abandoned gas stations are leaking pollutants into the ground? See what happens when you go down the rabbit hole trying to convince yourself that your right about something you know your not, but you just want to desperately to believe ? The facts you speak of are there, easy to find, EV’s are a much cleaner form of transportation even when you go down the rabbit hole, and don’t follow the rabbit hole for oil, and it’s not even close. That’s not even counting the fact you can take an old EV battery, and it’s 💯 recyclable, can be used to make brand new batteries or used as back up power for homes etc. with an ICE vehicle you burn 🔥 gas .. poof 💨 its gone and you have to go dig more up. You don’t have to do that with EV’s. Eventually there will be enough materials readily available, they won’t even need to mine for it anymore. You can’t say the same for oil.
Thanks for your stat that is pulled out of the air. If I were to guess, most people don't travel over 100 miles in a day. If you agree with that stat, greater than 50% have a use for an EV.
@@fit4ya1975 So lets move on to the next made up stat. Just like the transition from horses to cars, if everyone switched at the same time, there would not be the gas capacity for all. Luckily, it doesn't happen that way. It's a transition that takes decades to complete giving ample time to ramp up supply with demand. Other countries that are selling EV's at extraordinary rates don't seem to be having this problem. Are you saying the USA is not capable of creating power plants? We've added Lightnings to our fleet of gas and diesel trucks and threw a few solar panels on our roof. We are essentially operating those trucks at no cost and no effect to the grid. I am not saying everyone should get an EV but don't make stuff up. Just say "I hate EV's and will be sticking to gas". I would have way more respect for your comment with that.
Raptor all the way, i dont have time to wait for my vehicle to charge on road trips. Also, i don't like sitting around or hanging out in locations that I'm not familiar with. Gas stations, electric stations, rest areas are all transitional areas and prime targets for criminals. The less time i have to spend at these locations the better.
You have to try it. Charging at home is awesome. Charging on road trips suck but it’s not that bad if you’re only making one or two stops. But going further than a 1000 miles most evs are terrible.
I can tell you’ve never had a gas guzzler before. That raptor r will love gas stations . Both trucks are awesome tho, they’re like a trophy. If you live in LA get the hummer if you live in Texas get the raptor r
@@Big.W. I've had a few gas guzzlers in my day. They have been the most enjoyable vehicles that I've owned with three exceptions. I had a 2 door Mark V GTI with manual transmission that was a blast to drive on back roads, a Dodge Stealth R/T Twin Turbo V6 that was remarkably great for high-speed long distance driving, and Porsche 944 that was one of the best handling cars I've ever owned.
I'd rather have a Ranger Raptor with a tune. It's better sized for trails and MUCH easier for everyday use. Only thing I'd want more is the Ranger PHEV 4x4 the other markets get for all the power outlets and being able to do most of my daily cheaply and quietly.
There's absolutely no way a crash barrier is going to contain the electric hummer. I remember when all the comedy shows made fun of the Ford Excursion, but they are silent now?!?
Where i live a hummer ev crash in to a concrete barrier. Half of the hummer when through the barrier unfortunately killing the driver. A regular guardrail does not stand a chance stopping a Hummer ev
A lot of small bridges and roadways are only rated for 4T vehicles. Hummer isnt legally allowed to use those roads. The average purchaser of a Hummer EV never even processes those signs.
Lets see, arguably one of the most well known and desired super trucks ever. Or the one that you could not drive through a few inches of snow without software updates. Yeah. Tough call.
I cannot believe GM thought people would like the hummer EV over the raptor, let alone the raptor R. They don’t do the same thing at all, the hummer EV is way too heavy to be jumping or really running hard in the desert. People are not as impressed as they were 10 years ago with HP or 0-60, we have become desensitized to it.
We know that the lt4 can fit into the full-size engine bay. For example the Escalade V, it runs the same platform as the Silverado and Sierra. The TRX and Raptor R were pretty well recieved. Hell the RHO is a better alternative to the TRX or Raptor R than the Hummer EV. Still prefer the supercharged V8. But GM seems to think that their NA v8 in the ZR2 Bison is comparable to the supercharged v8s, I mean it cost almost as much.
@ people absolutely abuse their 130k raptors, if you have the 130k to buy the raptor fixing it after sending it is no big deal. It’s not like a g wagon, it’s literally built to be 5-10’ in the air and full throttle through the sand.
Wrong, I can guarantee you the raptor R will have appreciation, the hummer I’m not sure but raptor R’s are selling used for more than the sticker price
Well those aren't even a real comparison, there's a real truck there and there's an electric turd. A real man wouldn't take that Electric junker if they gave you $10,000 to go with it
I Have both... RaptorR is more off road worthy.. Hummer is cool too.. acceleration on both is awesome.. when I don't feel like stopping at a gas station I drive the Hummer. 😊
Dump the Hummer EV and bring back the old Hummer's. The Ford looks awesome and it's not a EV. This is America it's V8 or nothing. Take your Chinese Batteries and stick them where the sun doesn't shine.
I’ll take the hummer … if I was going to enter some off road Baja race, I’d take the Raptor. Since I’m never going to do that in my life, I’ll cruise around in the Hummer … plus what’s the gas mileage on that Raptor? Not only can you not afford to buy it, you can’t afford to drive it once you have it. A gorgeous, rip roaring, race bred, likely incredibly fun, gas guzzling money pit. Just checked .. 10MPG in the city and 15MPG on the highway. If the avg person drives 14,600 miles per year, that’s 1,460 gallons you’ll need to purchase say @ $3.50/ gal or $5,110 per year, or about $15 per day for normal every day driving. The Raptor has a 36 gallon tank or $126 to fill. Your gonna have to do that minimum 41x’s a year, Say you spend an avg of 15 minutes to refuel, that’s about 10.5 hrs or more per year just to put gas in it. (Half of that time in the bitter cold 🥶) I’ll pass, take the hummer, plug it in at work, or when I get home at night. I’ve only had to pump gas twice in the last 12 months only because one of our vehicles is an ICE vehicle, a 2024 1500 crew cab Silverado with the 4 cylinder turbo (great motor btw) because no one wants to drive it, my wife and I fight over the EV. I’m willing to bet if we had the Hummer and the Raptor R, it would turn out to be the exact same scenario. ICE vehicles are fun, make great adult toys, but EV’s are just all around better.
What color is the hummer? Its not void black for sure, but it really doesnt look like meteorite metallic gray either. It looks much darker and more metallic than that. Has it been painted? It looks like nighfall gray or ashen gray metallic GM colors. Does not look like a wrap.
we do not really have any long term test data on these GM batteries yet and I really think that's an important factor. What is the longevity of those batteries with that weight load? Is it more economical to buy a new raptor r engine or a new battery back? they might be about equivalent considering some of the parts and labor costs these days. Hummer needs a coil suspension offering really badly though!
EV's suck, let me know how it goes towing 8K lbs with that EV piece of garbage. The raptor is in and out of a gas station in 5 minutes (everywhere BTW) How many billions did that idiot, Pete Buttigieg, spend over the last 4 years to build 8 or 9 charging stations? Yet, I wouldn't spend anywhere close to the price for that Raptor either.
Hummer all day. 4 wheel steer, you can off board significant power w/accessory thru charge port, air suspension. 350kW chargers going up everywhere. 400mi real world range with 24 module battery. Raptor R gets 9 mpg?
I can't get over the fact that GM's electric trucks (Hummer EV, Silverado EV, Sierra EV) are 9,000 POUNDS. There are many small bridges all over the country that cannot support the weight of these trucks. I don't know why more people are not talking about this. It's insane and people should be advised before buying these.
When Ford owners say getting a new Chevy/Ram/GMC is too unreasonable but take out a third mortgage to get a F150 raptor R (took out a second one for their F250)
@8:53 I'll always chuckle when car RUclipsrs rev engines and use lapel microphones to record the sound, thinking they're actually capturing decent audio.
I had a Bronco Raptor.. Have a Raptor R and a Hummer.. The Bronco Raptor in no way compares.. as it lacks the power. Coming from someone that had 4 of the 60's 70's Broncos with the 302.. it sure would have been nice to see a coyote motor in the New Bronco. To each his own though..Enjoy what you like.
No way, Bronco Raptor doesn't compare. And it's really bad value. The Bronco and Ranger Raptor have almost the same powertrain and specs, and the Ranger Raptor costs like $35K less than the Bronco. The Ranger Raptor is great value, the Bronco not so much imo.
Raptor R! EcoBoost or PowerBoost over an EV. I can drive from IN to FL in two days (600 miles per day) using 2.5 tanks of gas that take me 10 minutes to fill. Based on a few of your prior videos (and others) that would not be the same for any EV!
As much as the Hummer in this new form, intrigues me for a lot of different reasons, I have to go with the same as you on track when it comes to the choice here. I think the Hummer is a compelling choice but the wait and the idea that I have to go chasing chargers just seems like a complete waste of time to me. I’ve always enjoyed team TFL‘s reviews on the Raptors, and I think at the end of the day the Hummers, trying to be everything the raptor is useful convenient on filling up, but it still seems the Hummers about 75% baked, were as the raptor is ready to go.
Raptor R all day. I dont even know what I'd do with the Hummer EV aside from haul kids around. Smiles per mile AND capability I'm picking Raptor, it's a no brainer. (Not an EV hater, own a Tesla along with my ICE vehicles).
We may no longer have to worry about mustangs or hellcats showing off and crashing at Car meetups. If those same people get a hold of an even quicker 9,000 lb vehicle we will see unimaginable carnage.
You mean you don' t know a lot of people that car about the environment? That's unfortunate. We only have the one planet, and we all have to live here.
Andre going to show case the new hummer with his 250k electric trailer as his new personal rig. 🤑 Why he is showing all these high dollar items. BTW how much did lightship pay for the commercial / interview Andre did the at their factory? Curios to know.
Raptor R all day every day...With our current technology limitations, massive BEVs with insanely large battery packs make no sense. ...now if you took the Hummer EV and cut the battery size to 1/4 and put in a small generator motor, it might start to make sense.
I would not buy either . If someone gave me $ 120000 and said that I had to spend it on new trucks I would get a new Honda Ridgeline at $ 47230 and a Chevrolet ZR2 with the 3.0 liter diesel at $ 69395 . Approximately $ 3000 more than the Raptor and more than $ 11000 less than the Hummer . The Ridgeline is the best daily driver truck you can buy and the ZR2 does everything that I could ever want in an off road truck . To me dual lockers are the best and the 3.0 gets great range . I think all trucks are overpriced but I think I would get better moneys worth going my way . I don't think I would ever buy any EV as an offroader .
That’s not an apples-to-apples comparison. This is more of an apples to lychee comparison of which one is the better flea repellent in Bangor County; i.e. these make no sense.
Taking the raptor. I will say the HEV looks good but it’s not gonna worth anything after 7-10 years, and there’s not even enough EV cars yet to justify the production of any sort of EV truck in my opinion.
Raptor R 💯 percent 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Raptor R is hands down the best out of these two. That being said $130k is insane for any pickup truck.
Raptor R for sure 100%.
Two obscenely overpriced vehicles out of reach for almost all of us. At least the Raptor R makes sense as an off-road toy. Watching the Hummer EV offroad is like watching an elephant trying figure skating.
It’s hard to say out loud, but the Hummer is a novelty compared to the Raptor. Can’t believe I said that about a supercharged Raptor on 37s. Lol
Comically, the Raptor R is only great off-road in comparison to the Hummer EV.
The Raptor R is massive and heavy, with most of the weight in the front leaving little for rear grip. Low end power surges, making it hard to control the throttle and prevent breaking traction at any speed. This is designed for desert Baja racing, not slow tight off road trails and rock trailing.
That just goes to show how horrible the Hummer EV is in all conditions.
@Cloud…. Agreed!
Both just status symbols. Nobody is off-roading either of them.
They’re not meant for everyone. They do sell ford mavericks 😅
Raptor R, hands down.
I own a Gen1 Raptor, so I'm a bit biased, but EVs don't have any soul .
I take the Raptor R, ecoboost Raptor or TRX any day before any electric truck.
Raptor R while you still can...
Raptor R for me too. I'm not convinced that EV technology is mature enough or sufficiently practical in any way.
GM would do so much better if they just built what people wanted.
Yes, all we’re asking for is a true Raptor/TRX competitor from factory with some reliability lol
They asked Henry Ford, "What do people want?" and he replied, "A faster horse". The only people who want faster horses have never driven an automobile.
Raptor R all day heck I would take a standard Raptor.
the one with gas, that doesn't take a year to find a working charging station.
Is this really a competition? That Raptor R has a soul and sounds the part too. The hummer is a big overweight fast phone.
@dmegahan Yea - Not really a competition. The Raptor R is a soulless reflection of a bygone era that has the sounds of a death struggle. The hummer is big and overweight but a very capable truck for a small market. Nothing wrong with Ford in general, the Raptor R is a cheap grab by Ford for money from a gullible fanboy base that has lost their way.
@@kelviskelvis7140You are hilarious. It’s not a “bygone era”. Even if electric vehicles replace ICE, it won’t be for at least 10 years here. Also you have no room to talk about a “gullible fanbase that lost their way” while simultaneously talking up the Hummer EV.
@@kelviskelvis7140uh… what planet do you live on again?
@@kelviskelvis7140 In case you are still living under a rock, there's a new sheriff in town. Government EV mandates are going to be a thing of the past very soon. There will always be a small market for EV's, but they will never replace ICE, at least not in my lifetime. The tech is just not there yet.
@@kelviskelvis7140except the Hummer is not capable. You are probably broke, but if you ever get the chance to drive a Raptor on the highway you understand it’s capability. Quiet and comfortable. Then also, it can dominate off road.
I'll take the Raptor thank you.
New trucks can only be watched and not driven by the average American now
If I had a lot of money I would buy a TRX, but as it stands now I would buy the Raptor
Raptor R 500% matter fact if it was just a Raptor I would take it.
Come on now!!! Is this even a real question? Which is better, a vacuum cleaner sounding ugly contraption or a bad-ass supercharged V8 growling mean monster?! 🏁🏁
He talks about 1000 HP in the hummer as if it really matters. No one wants that EV crap. I'd take the Raptor any day.
And I'd take a lucid sapphire over just about anything. So now that we've established people aren't homogeneous how about you quit being a moody bitch.
😂😂😂😅 exactly 💯
What kind of question is this ? 😂 RAPTOR ALLLLLLL DAY
Raptor for sure!
Raptor R: just because.
What I would like to see in an episode as an actual breakdown of what an EV cost emissions wise to create the batteries and how much emissions are created to provide the charging process to charge the batteries and so-called zero emissions vehicles, and how long it would actually take to make the emissions of a zero missions vehicle based on manufacturing break even
Why stop there? How much energy does it take to get oil out of the ground? How much pollution does that cause? Fracking, oil spills, pumps breaking in the ocean or pipes bursting on land. How much pollution is caused to transport crude oil across the ocean, then to a refinery, then the transportation to get it to the gas station, and the pollution made by the customer who then needs to drive their ICE vehicle to the gas station to get it. How many old abandoned gas stations are leaking pollutants into the ground?
See what happens when you go down the rabbit hole trying to convince yourself that your right about something you know your not, but you just want to desperately to believe ?
The facts you speak of are there, easy to find, EV’s are a much cleaner form of transportation even when you go down the rabbit hole, and don’t follow the rabbit hole for oil, and it’s not even close.
That’s not even counting the fact you can take an old EV battery, and it’s 💯 recyclable, can be used to make brand new batteries or used as back up power for homes etc. with an ICE vehicle you burn 🔥 gas .. poof 💨 its gone and you have to go dig more up. You don’t have to do that with EV’s. Eventually there will be enough materials readily available, they won’t even need to mine for it anymore. You can’t say the same for oil.
EVs are an option, not a replacement. ICE engines are still king.
90% of people have no use for an EV.
I’d argue that 90% have a use for an EV however infrastructure and other considerations make it not practical for them.
Thanks for your stat that is pulled out of the air. If I were to guess, most people don't travel over 100 miles in a day. If you agree with that stat, greater than 50% have a use for an EV.
@@darpompie4354Power grids cant handle it.
@@fit4ya1975 So lets move on to the next made up stat. Just like the transition from horses to cars, if everyone switched at the same time, there would not be the gas capacity for all. Luckily, it doesn't happen that way. It's a transition that takes decades to complete giving ample time to ramp up supply with demand. Other countries that are selling EV's at extraordinary rates don't seem to be having this problem. Are you saying the USA is not capable of creating power plants? We've added Lightnings to our fleet of gas and diesel trucks and threw a few solar panels on our roof. We are essentially operating those trucks at no cost and no effect to the grid.
I am not saying everyone should get an EV but don't make stuff up. Just say "I hate EV's and will be sticking to gas". I would have way more respect for your comment with that.
@@darpompie4354 I love how you read a sentence and make up an entire paragraph about what subject you want to defend. You should write fiction novels.
Raptor all the way, i dont have time to wait for my vehicle to charge on road trips. Also, i don't like sitting around or hanging out in locations that I'm not familiar with. Gas stations, electric stations, rest areas are all transitional areas and prime targets for criminals. The less time i have to spend at these locations the better.
You have to try it. Charging at home is awesome. Charging on road trips suck but it’s not that bad if you’re only making one or two stops. But going further than a 1000 miles most evs are terrible.
I can tell you’ve never had a gas guzzler before. That raptor r will love gas stations . Both trucks are awesome tho, they’re like a trophy. If you live in LA get the hummer if you live in Texas get the raptor r
@@Big.W. I've had a few gas guzzlers in my day. They have been the most enjoyable vehicles that I've owned with three exceptions. I had a 2 door Mark V GTI with manual transmission that was a blast to drive on back roads, a Dodge Stealth R/T Twin Turbo V6 that was remarkably great for high-speed long distance driving, and Porsche 944 that was one of the best handling cars I've ever owned.
I would rather my truck be a gas or diesel burner. Not a microwave
I'd rather have a Ranger Raptor with a tune. It's better sized for trails and MUCH easier for everyday use.
Only thing I'd want more is the Ranger PHEV 4x4 the other markets get for all the power outlets and being able to do most of my daily cheaply and quietly.
There's absolutely no way a crash barrier is going to contain the electric hummer. I remember when all the comedy shows made fun of the Ford Excursion, but they are silent now?!?
Where i live a hummer ev crash in to a concrete barrier. Half of the hummer when through the barrier unfortunately killing the driver.
A regular guardrail does not stand a chance stopping a Hummer ev
An F350 weighs w/fluids … 9,000 lbs … funny no one’s ever complained about that one before … hmm I wonder why
A lot of small bridges and roadways are only rated for 4T vehicles. Hummer isnt legally allowed to use those roads. The average purchaser of a Hummer EV never even processes those signs.
Don’t see any hummer evs around
Lets see, arguably one of the most well known and desired super trucks ever. Or the one that you could not drive through a few inches of snow without software updates. Yeah. Tough call.
On the other hand, its time to mover forward, don' t you think?
I cannot believe GM thought people would like the hummer EV over the raptor, let alone the raptor R. They don’t do the same thing at all, the hummer EV is way too heavy to be jumping or really running hard in the desert. People are not as impressed as they were 10 years ago with HP or 0-60, we have become desensitized to it.
We know that the lt4 can fit into the full-size engine bay. For example the Escalade V, it runs the same platform as the Silverado and Sierra. The TRX and Raptor R were pretty well recieved. Hell the RHO is a better alternative to the TRX or Raptor R than the Hummer EV. Still prefer the supercharged V8. But GM seems to think that their NA v8 in the ZR2 Bison is comparable to the supercharged v8s, I mean it cost almost as much.
I hate the hummer EV, but ain’t nobody jumping and desert running their $130k raptor.
@ people absolutely abuse their 130k raptors, if you have the 130k to buy the raptor fixing it after sending it is no big deal. It’s not like a g wagon, it’s literally built to be 5-10’ in the air and full throttle through the sand.
@@spcneary Nah, there may be a few, but 99% of them are mall crawlers and status symbols.
Raptor, plz...kthx...👍
I'm not a Ford person, however between the two I'd buy the Ford.
Combined here you roughly have a home mortgage without any of that pesky appreciation.
Wrong, I can guarantee you the raptor R will have appreciation, the hummer I’m not sure but raptor R’s are selling used for more than the sticker price
Well those aren't even a real comparison, there's a real truck there and there's an electric turd.
A real man wouldn't take that Electric junker if they gave you $10,000 to go with it
Which is better depends entirely on use case. But the short answer is the Raptor R.
RAPTOR R I hate electric vehicles
How many have you owned?
Raptor R all day long
❤Raptor❤
I Have both... RaptorR is more off road worthy.. Hummer is cool too.. acceleration on both is awesome.. when I don't feel like stopping at a gas station I drive the Hummer. 😊
Dump the Hummer EV and bring back the old Hummer's. The Ford looks awesome and it's not a EV. This is America it's V8 or nothing. Take your Chinese Batteries and stick them where the sun doesn't shine.
I'd take a regular 2nd gen Raptor over the Hummer.
Raptor r easily
Id take that Raptor with a 3V 5.4 over the Hummer.
I’ll take the hummer … if I was going to enter some off road Baja race, I’d take the Raptor. Since I’m never going to do that in my life, I’ll cruise around in the Hummer … plus what’s the gas mileage on that Raptor? Not only can you not afford to buy it, you can’t afford to drive it once you have it. A gorgeous, rip roaring, race bred, likely incredibly fun, gas guzzling money pit.
Just checked .. 10MPG in the city and 15MPG on the highway. If the avg person drives 14,600 miles per year, that’s 1,460 gallons you’ll need to purchase say @ $3.50/ gal or $5,110 per year, or about $15 per day for normal every day driving.
The Raptor has a 36 gallon tank or $126 to fill. Your gonna have to do that minimum 41x’s a year, Say you spend an avg of 15 minutes to refuel, that’s about 10.5 hrs or more per year just to put gas in it. (Half of that time in the bitter cold 🥶)
I’ll pass, take the hummer, plug it in at work, or when I get home at night. I’ve only had to pump gas twice in the last 12 months only because one of our vehicles is an ICE vehicle, a 2024 1500 crew cab Silverado with the 4 cylinder turbo (great motor btw) because no one wants to drive it, my wife and I fight over the EV. I’m willing to bet if we had the Hummer and the Raptor R, it would turn out to be the exact same scenario. ICE vehicles are fun, make great adult toys, but EV’s are just all around better.
Raptor for me please. Even though I like the styling of the Hummer.
What color is the hummer? Its not void black for sure, but it really doesnt look like meteorite metallic gray either. It looks much darker and more metallic than that.
Has it been painted? It looks like nighfall gray or ashen gray metallic GM colors.
Does not look like a wrap.
we do not really have any long term test data on these GM batteries yet and I really think that's an important factor. What is the longevity of those batteries with that weight load? Is it more economical to buy a new raptor r engine or a new battery back? they might be about equivalent considering some of the parts and labor costs these days. Hummer needs a coil suspension offering really badly though!
I’d never pick an EV truck 😂. I wouldn’t want a Raptor as it’s a Ford, so I guess none of em. Great video as always.
EV's suck, let me know how it goes towing 8K lbs with that EV piece of garbage. The raptor is in and out of a gas station in 5 minutes (everywhere BTW) How many billions did that idiot, Pete Buttigieg, spend over the last 4 years to build 8 or 9 charging stations? Yet, I wouldn't spend anywhere close to the price for that Raptor either.
Hummer all day. 4 wheel steer, you can off board significant power w/accessory thru charge port, air suspension. 350kW chargers going up everywhere. 400mi real world range with 24 module battery. Raptor R gets 9 mpg?
After 4 to 5 years the Hummer would be worthless
@@youngblood23rb More hyperbole and nothing fact based. You simply do not know.
GMC Paperweight vs Ford Classic years from now!
These are both cool vehicles, but this is a rich person question.
That Hummer truck is Artwork
Blessings
Thanks for this
Big brother's overreach notwithstanding, definitely the EV. Zero emissions cannot be denied. Besides, you can run, but you cannot hide.
A video comparing to vehicles without actually driving them is rather pointless.
Its insane to me that the half ton pickup truck is now the same size as the hummer
I can't get over the fact that GM's electric trucks (Hummer EV, Silverado EV, Sierra EV) are 9,000 POUNDS. There are many small bridges all over the country that cannot support the weight of these trucks. I don't know why more people are not talking about this. It's insane and people should be advised before buying these.
Hate watching people complain about how they can’t afford it ,then make more money
When Ford owners say getting a new Chevy/Ram/GMC is too unreasonable but take out a third mortgage to get a F150 raptor R (took out a second one for their F250)
I have a 2024 raptor best thing I have ever purchased!
There’s no way you’re not getting a Raptor R for that much money. I think the markup at my local dealer something like 50 K.
@8:53 I'll always chuckle when car RUclipsrs rev engines and use lapel microphones to record the sound, thinking they're actually capturing decent audio.
But I need to haul gravel.. My 03' Silverado can handle about 3000lb of gravel in the bed..
I would take the third option...a Bronco Raptor! Similar performance but with a lower cost. Great video, Andre! Keep up the good work!
I had a Bronco Raptor.. Have a Raptor R and a Hummer.. The Bronco Raptor in no way compares.. as it lacks the power. Coming from someone that had 4 of the 60's 70's Broncos with the 302.. it sure would have been nice to see a coyote motor in the New Bronco. To each his own though..Enjoy what you like.
No way, Bronco Raptor doesn't compare. And it's really bad value. The Bronco and Ranger Raptor have almost the same powertrain and specs, and the Ranger Raptor costs like $35K less than the Bronco. The Ranger Raptor is great value, the Bronco not so much imo.
Raptor R! EcoBoost or PowerBoost over an EV. I can drive from IN to FL in two days (600 miles per day) using 2.5 tanks of gas that take me 10 minutes to fill. Based on a few of your prior videos (and others) that would not be the same for any EV!
As much as the Hummer in this new form, intrigues me for a lot of different reasons, I have to go with the same as you on track when it comes to the choice here. I think the Hummer is a compelling choice but the wait and the idea that I have to go chasing chargers just seems like a complete waste of time to me. I’ve always enjoyed team TFL‘s reviews on the Raptors, and I think at the end of the day the Hummers, trying to be everything the raptor is useful convenient on filling up, but it still seems the Hummers about 75% baked, were as the raptor is ready to go.
Hummer all day. Love the look. It does drive really heavy, but I'd get used to it.
Raptor R FTW. No competition
Have driven the EV suv. Those roof panels make so many creeks/rattles. Completely unacceptable especially at this price.
I’ll keep my raptor 👍🏼
Haha - IMO the choice is easy, the Raptor and it’s ICE power plant
They should have gave the hummer a the 6.6 v8 or diesel from the HD line.
Raptor R all day. I dont even know what I'd do with the Hummer EV aside from haul kids around. Smiles per mile AND capability I'm picking Raptor, it's a no brainer. (Not an EV hater, own a Tesla along with my ICE vehicles).
Its like comparing a $9 Big Mac vs a $9 Whopper
If its a half pound of grass-fed angus beef its well worth it. See how it works now?
If the hummer had a supercharged v8 that would be awesome
We may no longer have to worry about mustangs or hellcats showing off and crashing at Car meetups. If those same people get a hold of an even quicker 9,000 lb vehicle we will see unimaginable carnage.
I don’t think many people would pick the Hummer
You mean you don' t know a lot of people that car about the environment? That's unfortunate. We only have the one planet, and we all have to live here.
Both cool, but I'd take the Hummer. It's massive and ridiculous and I love it.
Raptor R every day of the week!
Raptor R ❤
How is the Hummer 3x more expensive than the first edition?
Andre going to show case the new hummer with his 250k electric trailer as his new personal rig. 🤑 Why he is showing all these high dollar items. BTW how much did lightship pay for the commercial / interview Andre did the at their factory? Curios to know.
Raptor R all day every day...With our current technology limitations, massive BEVs with insanely large battery packs make no sense. ...now if you took the Hummer EV and cut the battery size to 1/4 and put in a small generator motor, it might start to make sense.
The answer to that is NEITHER!
I would not buy either . If someone gave me $ 120000 and said that I had to spend it on new trucks I would get a new Honda Ridgeline at $ 47230 and a Chevrolet ZR2 with the 3.0 liter diesel at $ 69395 . Approximately $ 3000 more than the Raptor and more than $ 11000 less than the Hummer . The Ridgeline is the best daily driver truck you can buy and the ZR2 does everything that I could ever want in an off road truck . To me dual lockers are the best and the 3.0 gets great range . I think all trucks are overpriced but I think I would get better moneys worth going my way . I don't think I would ever buy any EV as an offroader .
Where’s the Cybertruck??
The hummer needs gm's inline 3.0 diesel and it would be a great vehicle
This was absolutely POINTLESS. 🤦🏾♂️
How can you do a comparison video without even driving them
I have always wanted a ford raptor so my choice would be the ford raptor
In the long run the Raptor will hold its value but what is that Hummer gonna be worth in 5 years probably not much it will be obsolete.
That’s not an apples-to-apples comparison.
This is more of an apples to lychee comparison of which one is the better flea repellent in Bangor County; i.e. these make no sense.
Ford Raptor ❤❤
Raptor.
If I had that much money I would buy a Rivian R1T 😅
Taking the raptor. I will say the HEV looks good but it’s not gonna worth anything after 7-10 years, and there’s not even enough EV cars yet to justify the production of any sort of EV truck in my opinion.
Raptor R👌👌💪💪❤️🔥❤️🔥👈
prices should not have been more than 100k
I'd never get an EV....I'm just not that rich....the Raptor is more in my budget. Sure it costs a lot, but it will have resale value.
If free the the Raptor R. Wouldn't buy either of them, I'd rather spend that money on land
So you can jump the trucks? 😉
Raptor R every Time