hi, why is it important to analyse bias eg why they are making the point they are making, their intentions motive etc. Doesnt the LAT question just ask for strengths weakness and effectiveness? So wouldnt it be unnecessary to analyse bias unless it is a weakness or impacts persuasiveness.
i think bias almost always impacts an argument, usually making it weaker as the argument becomes much more subjective as it is based on one persons thoughts or feelings about a certain topic - this is just my opinion though :) if ur taking the lat this year good luck! i am too:))
Hi, I really want to become a lawyer! Can you please recommend subjects for me to pick for in Year 11 and 12 (I am currently in year 10) At the moment I am considering the following subjects: 1. 3 Unit Maths 2. Advanced English (I was told to do 3 unit by my teacher but I enjoy maths a bit more) 3. Legal Studies 4. Language through Saturday School 5. Chemistry ( should I do economics or biology instead) 6. Physics (should I do a different science or a completely different subject, I am just concerned about the workload) Currently, in year 10 I am averaging above 90% for every subject. Can you please give me some advice about my subject choices. Have I set myself up for too much work by picking 13 units and Do you think that I should change some of my subjects? I look forward to hearing from you :)
Hi there! I think those subjects are fine For law, there aren't really any subjects you need to do to do well in law, not even legal studies! Realistically you just need to do the subjects that you're best at and enjoy the most, so that you can maintain high marks throughout your senior years. I did 12 units in year 11 and 12, while juggling a bunch of other things on top of them, and it wasn't too bad. However my subjects were less content-heavy than some of yours. I think you can see how you go in year 11 with 13 units, and if it's too much you can drop down to 11-12.
I'd talk to your friends teachers and parents about what subjects you want to do though, if you're unsure about what sciences to pick you'll probably want some second and third opinions because that's always a hard choice
hey! so as you mentioned the second section is where there's more freedom to express yourself, but what do you think you think as you said can distinguish you as an exceptional candidate from the others? any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks!!
Hi Harshithaa! I would say the best thing you can do is make your analysis both in depth and nuanced. So that means doing proper analysis of the views presented in each each stimulus (like you did in section 1 but a lot shorter), identifying the positives and negatives of your course of action based on the arguments given in each piece, and coming to a nuanced and well considered conclusion on what to do. Something like "Item 5's sardonic caricature of the growing use of computers in the classroom highlights how children may substitute video games and social media for sport and physical activity, raising the compelling argument that computer use detracts from face-to-face interactions. However, I believe that this argument fails to surmount in significance the 20% increase in learning outcomes from greater access to computers, as shown in item 3. It may be prudent to allow computer usage during class time while discouraging it during children's break times, so that they may benefit from a more contemporary and effective method of learning while also maintaining healthy interpersonal development." In terms of being exceptional, I probably worded that poorly in the video, because it implies that you need to stand out to do well. You don't have to make an insanely creative and innovative solution, you just need to make a solution that properly considers and addresses the facts and opinions presented in the various stimuli. I wouldn't be able to tell you if a creative solution is helpful - my solution in response to a question of whether to increase computer usage in classrooms was "increase usage gradually, discuss with parental community as to whether it's having negative consequences", which isn't a particularly creative answer, but still was fine.
@@tomkennedy3843 hi, why is it important to analyse bias eg why they are making the point they are making, their intentions motive etc. Doesnt the LAT question just ask for strengths weakness and effectiveness? So wouldnt it be unnecessary to analyse bias unless it is a weakness or impacts persuasiveness.
Hi, I have two questions! 1. Although there is no word limit given, approximately how much should one be writing in these responses? 2. For Section 1, if one was to split the response into persuasion and validity, should I refer to all of the different arguments raised in the article/letter in that paragraph - for example if I am discussing the persuasiveness of an article looking at whether weed should be legalised in Australia and the article has 3 main points, should I address all three of those points in my persuasion paragraph or would it be better to split it up into small paragraphs or arguments? Thank you!
Hi Ally, Sorry for the late response, hopefully this reaches you in time! 1. It's really hard to quantify how much to write, I probably wrote about 900 words for each of them? Around the length of an English essay. So you're not really under time pressure as long as you write reasonably quickly. 2. You could either write it as a full paragraph or as separate mini paragraphs - if the ideas are similar and naturally progress from each other, it might be better for the flow to have them in a single paragraph. However if you need to jump around a bit, maybe separate mini arguments/paras are better. It won't matter massively either way though, you get a lot of freedom as long as it flows logically.
I have read a bunch of comments that this guy had friends who had 97+ atar who got in to UNSW law school despite getting 30-40 in the LAT and that the test is just a cash grab, is this real?
@@ishanagar3392 No specific amount of paragraphs - it depends on the number of points you make. You don't need to use all the sources given - use the ones that are most relevant to what you want to say. Note the instructions on the paper confirm this: Please note: While it is not a requirement to reference all the material reproduced below, your piece of writing should be clearly based on the issues arising in this material. You can reference the materials reproduced below in your argument by their Item number in brackets, eg. (see Item 2). You may also refer to other information or sources/resources you think relevant
Hi Sarah! You definitely can, I did use those words once or twice. You're going to have to describe what kind of metaphor it is (whether it mocks/condemns/supports whatever it's making a metaphor out of) like "the damning metaphor of (insert quote from text here) challenges the perception that (insert topic here) is a moral and ethical decision, by drawing strong emotional parallels to (something evil)" In general, you can and should use English techniques as long as you explain what you mean. Hope that helps!
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Do you have to write an introduction, conclusion, and title for each of them? Thanks.
You do from what I know
What do you need to study for the test?
hi, why is it important to analyse bias eg why they are making the point they are making, their intentions motive etc. Doesnt the LAT question just ask for strengths weakness and effectiveness? So wouldnt it be unnecessary to analyse bias unless it is a weakness or impacts persuasiveness.
i think bias almost always impacts an argument, usually making it weaker as the argument becomes much more subjective as it is based on one persons thoughts or feelings about a certain topic - this is just my opinion though :) if ur taking the lat this year good luck! i am too:))
Is there any prerequisite knowledge or assumed knowledge for usyd or unsw law?
Generally Advanced English, but that's it!
Hi, I really want to become a lawyer!
Can you please recommend subjects for me to pick for in Year 11 and 12 (I am currently in year 10)
At the moment I am considering the following subjects:
1. 3 Unit Maths
2. Advanced English (I was told to do 3 unit by my teacher but I enjoy maths a bit more)
3. Legal Studies
4. Language through Saturday School
5. Chemistry ( should I do economics or biology instead)
6. Physics (should I do a different science or a completely different subject, I am just concerned about the workload)
Currently, in year 10 I am averaging above 90% for every subject. Can you please give me some advice about my subject choices. Have I set myself up for too much work by picking 13 units and Do you think that I should change some of my subjects?
I look forward to hearing from you :)
Hi there!
I think those subjects are fine
For law, there aren't really any subjects you need to do to do well in law, not even legal studies!
Realistically you just need to do the subjects that you're best at and enjoy the most, so that you can maintain high marks throughout your senior years.
I did 12 units in year 11 and 12, while juggling a bunch of other things on top of them, and it wasn't too bad. However my subjects were less content-heavy than some of yours.
I think you can see how you go in year 11 with 13 units, and if it's too much you can drop down to 11-12.
I'd talk to your friends teachers and parents about what subjects you want to do though, if you're unsure about what sciences to pick you'll probably want some second and third opinions because that's always a hard choice
Thanks
@@tomkennedy3843 Hi,
Just wondering what subjects did you do in year 11?
Thanks
Tom Kennedy
Hi , I need some help or tutoring for my legal studies. Can you give any ideas.
hey!
so as you mentioned the second section is where there's more freedom to express yourself, but what do you think you think as you said can distinguish you as an exceptional candidate from the others? any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks!!
Hi Harshithaa!
I would say the best thing you can do is make your analysis both in depth and nuanced. So that means doing proper analysis of the views presented in each each stimulus (like you did in section 1 but a lot shorter), identifying the positives and negatives of your course of action based on the arguments given in each piece, and coming to a nuanced and well considered conclusion on what to do.
Something like "Item 5's sardonic caricature of the growing use of computers in the classroom highlights how children may substitute video games and social media for sport and physical activity, raising the compelling argument that computer use detracts from face-to-face interactions. However, I believe that this argument fails to surmount in significance the 20% increase in learning outcomes from greater access to computers, as shown in item 3. It may be prudent to allow computer usage during class time while discouraging it during children's break times, so that they may benefit from a more contemporary and effective method of learning while also maintaining healthy interpersonal development."
In terms of being exceptional, I probably worded that poorly in the video, because it implies that you need to stand out to do well. You don't have to make an insanely creative and innovative solution, you just need to make a solution that properly considers and addresses the facts and opinions presented in the various stimuli.
I wouldn't be able to tell you if a creative solution is helpful - my solution in response to a question of whether to increase computer usage in classrooms was "increase usage gradually, discuss with parental community as to whether it's having negative consequences", which isn't a particularly creative answer, but still was fine.
@@tomkennedy3843 hi, why is it important to analyse bias eg why they are making the point they are making, their intentions motive etc. Doesnt the LAT question just ask for strengths weakness and effectiveness? So wouldnt it be unnecessary to analyse bias unless it is a weakness or impacts persuasiveness.
Hi,
I have two questions!
1. Although there is no word limit given, approximately how much should one be writing in these responses?
2. For Section 1, if one was to split the response into persuasion and validity, should I refer to all of the different arguments raised in the article/letter in that paragraph - for example if I am discussing the persuasiveness of an article looking at whether weed should be legalised in Australia and the article has 3 main points, should I address all three of those points in my persuasion paragraph or would it be better to split it up into small paragraphs or arguments?
Thank you!
Hi Ally,
Sorry for the late response, hopefully this reaches you in time!
1. It's really hard to quantify how much to write, I probably wrote about 900 words for each of them? Around the length of an English essay. So you're not really under time pressure as long as you write reasonably quickly.
2. You could either write it as a full paragraph or as separate mini paragraphs - if the ideas are similar and naturally progress from each other, it might be better for the flow to have them in a single paragraph. However if you need to jump around a bit, maybe separate mini arguments/paras are better. It won't matter massively either way though, you get a lot of freedom as long as it flows logically.
I have read a bunch of comments that this guy had friends who had 97+ atar who got in to UNSW law school despite getting 30-40 in the LAT and that the test is just a cash grab, is this real?
Not that we're aware! Typically what we hear is you ideally need an LAT of 85+!
yes you can get into UNSW law with low LAT score and high atar, although I wouldn't call he test a cash grab
Hey Tom, which sport were you a state representative in?
Hey, I played ultimate frisbee for NSW! haha
Hi,
Just wondering what subjects did you do in year 11?
Thanks
Do you need to sit the LAT for just UNSW or every University?? And is there any mathematical analysis in the test ?
Just UNSW Law.
Hi, is there a specific number of paragraphs we should use? And do we need to use all the sources given?
Thanks
As in specific number of paragraphs for length of your response?
ArtofSmartTV Yes. Thanks
@@ishanagar3392 No specific amount of paragraphs - it depends on the number of points you make. You don't need to use all the sources given - use the ones that are most relevant to what you want to say.
Note the instructions on the paper confirm this:
Please note: While it is not a requirement to reference all the material reproduced below, your piece of writing should be clearly based on the issues arising in this material. You can reference the materials reproduced below in your argument by their Item number in brackets, eg. (see
Item 2). You may also refer to other information or sources/resources you think relevant
Are we meant to use language techniques when analysing? (metaphor, simile etc.)
Hi Sarah!
You definitely can, I did use those words once or twice. You're going to have to describe what kind of metaphor it is (whether it mocks/condemns/supports whatever it's making a metaphor out of) like "the damning metaphor of (insert quote from text here) challenges the perception that (insert topic here) is a moral and ethical decision, by drawing strong emotional parallels to (something evil)"
In general, you can and should use English techniques as long as you explain what you mean.
Hope that helps!