The "Elyse" LP was recorded in 1968 at Sunset Sound Recorders. It was engineered by Gene Shively. The "The Band of Thieves" consisted of Don Gallucci (keyboards), Joey Newman (electric guitar), John Bordonaro (drums/percussion) & Bruce Hauser (bass guitar). I am Bruce Hauser and I'm going to borrow this statement from the Touch Wikipedia page " After signing with Coliseum Records, but before recording Touch, the group recorded the music tracks for the Elyse Weinberg LP using the name "The Band of Thieves", after Elyse's song of the same name. Gene Shiveley engineered the sessions at Sunset Sound Recorders." We had a great time recording the Elyse LP. I know that Neil Young played guitar on at least one subsequent album released by Elyse, but I am pretty darn sure Neil did not play on the LP simply titled Elyse. Thanks for your video about Elyse. May she RIP.
Thank you Bruce and great to meet you! That’s so interesting to know and have confirmed that Neil Young did not in fact play on the album (contrary to so much info on the internet). And also great to understand who The Band of Thieves were. I really appreciate you correcting that mis information. I will pin your comment in case someone stumbles on this video in the future.
Very interesting. I have just listened to Greasepaint Smile and there's a track (other than House) that sounds like Neil Young playing guitar to me, so perhaps he played on more than the track identified?
@@cordesrecords I think the Neil Young miss info is because "Houses" is 1 of the 2 Greasepaint Smile bonus tracks on the 2001 Orange Twin CD reissue of Elyse´s debut LP.
Touch´s Touch is such an incredibly mind touching album !!! I regret not getting it on vinyl at the time but now have it on disc with 5 bonus tracks. I´m honoured to touch base with the bass here :)
Thanks for shining a light on overlooked treasures! There are so many talented people out there - but talent is not enough - the stars must all align perfectly for the magic "success" to occur. Having that movie song credit stolen by Sonny Bono must have been a crushing blow.
I love listening to you talk about her and to know the history and my sister and I wondered so many times whatever happened to her because we thought she was so amazing and now I know and yet she was so close to us Santa Fe not very far away
Good morning from Canada Katie! 2 days ago I almost fell out of my chair at a very good restaurant when your video popped up. I have had Elyse' lp since the 70's. I play it every year. Only you would bring this obscure Canadian artist to our attention. Amazing research & presentation. Thank you Katie.
I was pleasantly surprised, having come from personal immersion in this genre over the decades, not to mention the fact that I'm of this generation, to have you introduce me to an artist that I have never heard of. This is wonderful! I'm totally gobsmacked!
I know Elsie she sung painted Raven and I was probably 13 years old. I’ve never forgotten her voice. I’m now 67.! you know they used to have all these sales at the record stores or 5 and dime and we were digging through the bin and I found it and I loved the art on it. It was white with a lot of line drawings. Hopefully you have it. I would love to hear painted Raven. I would play painted Raven over and over and I thought she sounded her lyrics were so much like Bob Dylan. It’s funny I remember the song being longer than what it is.
Wow! New artist ✨ (and just found your channel). Elyse's voice and songwriting is very interesting and would LOVE to hear the unreleased album! Thank you. 🌻🦋
Always great to encounter exceptional new (i.e. old and forgotten) talents. My main "discovery" this year was Martha Velez, her Fiends & Angels album from the early 70s is a stellar lp.
Your video randomly popped into my recommendations but I love her! I discovered her because Sleater-Kinney's former drummer Janet Weiss talked a lot about "Houses" in an interview. I got Greasepaint Smile from Numero Group last year, her work is so wonderful. Great video!
How about an episode or a series focusing on live albums that defined a band? Such as Peter Frampton Frampton Comes Alive, Waitin' for Columbus Little Feat, The Last Waltz The Band. Your perspective would be informative.
I’ve never heard of any of those places I’m here in Oklahoma USA if you could let me know, I would greatly appreciate it. I would love to find Elsie and listen to all her other songs. What a nice way to be thinking about your childhood and how you got where you got because of what you were listening to it was such a big deal to listen to good music back then ! I’m so lucky I had a older sister to help lead me
Her album was meant to be one of the initial 10 LPs issued by Tetra, alongside the like of Bill Cosby and the Kingston Trio, Pat Boone and Tom Ghent, and was announced in April '69.
Bill Cosby was a part owner of Tetragrammaton. They were Deep Purple’s US label, which is why you could only ever get low quality boots of the Rod Evans era albums after it folded.
Hey Katie! I hope your having a nice festive hoo-ha. I love Greasepaint Smile. I showed it in a recent video on US/Canadian folk rock artists. To be honest with you, while I kind of like her debut album, its a bit too fey and kooky for my more earthy and grounded taste. That's why Greasepaint Smile, were she'd shed much of the late 60s baroque folk style, is more up my street. Like you I would love for her Asylum record to be released. Fingers crossed someone can find it. Thanks for taking the time to highlight an artist who deserves better than to be a another footnote in rock musuc history. Cheers - Hedley
Deed I Do was a bit of a hit for her, at least in Vancouver where it made the top 10 in the CKLG RADIO Top 40 in 1969. Billboard magazine in April '69 said of her and the single "New voice on the disk scene, and an unusual strong commercial sound it is. Folk rhythm ballad and this performance could prove a left field giant. Watch this one!. "
Great video from you (again!). Another "unnoticed album" suggestion more in the genre of Broadway - The Bridge by Elizabeth Geyer (from Australia) - Look for the RUclips video Rain Falls
Thanks, never heard of her. Another one album woman: Cameo (1970) by Australian Marian Henderson. It was released in the USA, and Britain, I think. Also, Primordial Lovers (1970) by Essra Mohawk was once in Rolling Stone's top 20 albums - now its all but forgotten. Essra had an interesting career under a few different names. I think she passed in the last few years.
I have the 1971 album, Victoria, by the extremely obscure San Francisco folkie, Victoria Domagalski. Herbie Hancock and Ronnie Montrose play on it. She sang as a backing singer for Herbie. She was formally trained in music, which is reflected in the complexity of some of her songs. I think she released 2 albums. She's on discogs.
Interesting… I may not be from the 60s but I do sell psychedelic music and I am obscure because the genre is no longer about popular… I have a piece called Innocence Elise….. I’d like to hear this record that my own record but this record I listen to lots of music, including a lot of film music from the 1960s… I like to listen to a lot of serious movie, music and things like that helps to inspire me as well
It is Orange Twin, and the Elephant 6 collective - who have a book and feature length documentary about them - also, its pretty easy to look up the Billboard charts. Heartfelt tribute which obviously worked to bring attention where it is deserved, but kinda long and rambling with no so much research?
Thanks for your comments. It was just an intro really - not an indepth. I am totally long and rambling kind of girl! BUT - thanks for watching regardless. :)
I watched this whole video then I went and listened to all her music. She ain’t an unsung hero she is a not good enough to make it big just like the majority of songwriters, singers and musicians. I’m sure she was a cool hippie chick back in the day. I’m 75 years old and was part of “it” in the sixties myself. I was hoping for a lost treasure from the sixties.
Hi Jimmy. Yes I can understand you view point. The first album particularly is an acquired taste. However the song Houses from the second one is a groove! And is just fabulous. Maybe she wasn’t “quite” the level of Laura Nyro? I really appreciate you watching the whole video 😊
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The "Elyse" LP was recorded in 1968 at Sunset Sound Recorders. It was engineered by Gene Shively. The "The Band of Thieves" consisted of Don Gallucci (keyboards), Joey Newman (electric guitar), John Bordonaro (drums/percussion) & Bruce Hauser (bass guitar). I am Bruce Hauser and I'm going to borrow this statement from the Touch Wikipedia page " After signing with Coliseum Records, but before recording Touch, the group recorded the music tracks for the Elyse Weinberg LP using the name "The Band of Thieves", after Elyse's song of the same name. Gene Shiveley engineered the sessions at Sunset Sound Recorders." We had a great time recording the Elyse LP. I know that Neil Young played guitar on at least one subsequent album released by Elyse, but I am pretty darn sure Neil did not play on the LP simply titled Elyse. Thanks for your video about Elyse. May she RIP.
Thank you Bruce and great to meet you! That’s so interesting to know and have confirmed that Neil Young did not in fact play on the album (contrary to so much info on the internet). And also great to understand who The Band of Thieves were. I really appreciate you correcting that mis information. I will pin your comment in case someone stumbles on this video in the future.
Very interesting. I have just listened to Greasepaint Smile and there's a track (other than House) that sounds like Neil Young playing guitar to me, so perhaps he played on more than the track identified?
@@cordesrecords I think the Neil Young miss info is because "Houses" is 1 of the 2 Greasepaint Smile bonus tracks on the 2001 Orange Twin CD reissue of Elyse´s debut LP.
Touch´s Touch is such an incredibly mind touching album !!! I regret not getting it on vinyl at the time but now have it on disc with 5 bonus tracks. I´m honoured to touch base with the bass here :)
Thanks for shining a light on overlooked treasures! There are so many talented people out there - but talent is not enough - the stars must all align perfectly for the magic "success" to occur. Having that movie song credit stolen by Sonny Bono must have been a crushing blow.
It would have been gutting :(
Elyse Weinberg does get a song writing credit on the ´69 original movie sound track album, so not stolen outright.
I love listening to you talk about her and to know the history and my sister and I wondered so many times whatever happened to her because we thought she was so amazing and now I know and yet she was so close to us Santa Fe not very far away
Sad!
Good morning from Canada Katie! 2 days ago I almost fell out of my chair at a very good restaurant when your video popped up. I have had Elyse' lp since the 70's. I play it every year. Only you would bring this obscure Canadian artist to our attention. Amazing research & presentation. Thank you Katie.
Aaah hello from Australia to Canada! Hope the meal was good. Thanks for kind words
A very good restaurant wouldn't allow you to sit watching RUclips. Cmon buddy you were at a McDonalds, admit it
At times she reminds me of Kate & Anna McGarrigle. That's a compliment. Thanks for the video ❤
Oh that’s interesting. I love Kate & Anna McGarrigal. I need to listen with that in mind
I was pleasantly surprised, having come from personal immersion in this genre over the decades, not to mention the fact that I'm of this generation, to have you introduce me to an artist that I have never heard of. This is wonderful! I'm totally gobsmacked!
Oh fantastic ❤ Pleased to hear!
Not to mention that my hometown is a couple of stone throws from hers...
Thanks for this video. I love learning about obscure artists like this. I’m going to give her her a listen now.
Great! It’s an acquired tastes! Listen to the second one too!
Geeze. I started out wanting to comment on the content.
As I watched I became more impressed with commentator.
Good on you.
Cheers mate!
I know Elsie she sung painted Raven and I was probably 13 years old. I’ve never forgotten her voice. I’m now 67.! you know they used to have all these sales at the record stores or 5 and dime and we were digging through the bin and I found it and I loved the art on it. It was white with a lot of line drawings. Hopefully you have it. I would love to hear painted Raven. I would play painted Raven over and over and I thought she sounded her lyrics were so much like Bob Dylan. It’s funny I remember the song being longer than what it is.
Thanks Patricia!
Great find! Another overlooked artist from Canada in the 60's is Mary Saxton, a teenaged soul singer from Edmonton.
Oh thank you! Will check her out
Wow! New artist ✨ (and just found your channel). Elyse's voice and songwriting is very interesting and would LOVE to hear the unreleased album! Thank you. 🌻🦋
Awesome! Thank you!
Always great to encounter exceptional new (i.e. old and forgotten) talents. My main "discovery" this year was Martha Velez, her Fiends & Angels album from the early 70s is a stellar lp.
Oh thanks for the recommendation - I haven’t heard of her.
i just gave her two albums a spin, and bump into this on youtube!
Ok that’s weird😂
nice one,you are doing a great job.......................jpj
Thank you so much 😀
Your video randomly popped into my recommendations but I love her! I discovered her because Sleater-Kinney's former drummer Janet Weiss talked a lot about "Houses" in an interview. I got Greasepaint Smile from Numero Group last year, her work is so wonderful. Great video!
That’s fantastic! I love Sleater Kinney too!!
Thanks for this introduction, really looking forward to listening to her.
Do you know Bonnie Dobson’s work? The first song she wrote was Morning Dew.
Not even 30 seconds into Band of Thieves & I’m sold. Thanks again.
Sure do and have one of her albums. !
@Kieron-fx5pmyay!! 😂🎉
How about an episode or a series focusing on live albums that defined a band? Such as Peter Frampton Frampton Comes Alive, Waitin' for Columbus Little Feat, The Last Waltz The Band. Your perspective would be informative.
Funny you should suggest that - I’ve been thinking of doing it, but am waiting to get a one or two more albums. Thanks for the suggestion!
Thanks. New to me.
Great!
I’ve never heard of any of those places I’m here in Oklahoma USA if you could let me know, I would greatly appreciate it. I would love to find Elsie and listen to all her other songs. What a nice way to be thinking about your childhood and how you got where you got because of what you were listening to it was such a big deal to listen to good music back then ! I’m so lucky I had a older sister to help lead me
Her album was meant to be one of the initial 10 LPs issued by Tetra, alongside the like of Bill Cosby and the Kingston Trio, Pat Boone and Tom Ghent, and was announced in April '69.
Thanks for the information 😊 That’s interesting
It saddens me to hear stories like this to artists trying to make a go of it. Now I want to know more.
I know! Dig deep though - it’s interesting!
This career trajectory is a lot like that of Vashti Bunyan. If any if y'all want some goooood 70's folk, try *Vashti Bunyan*
♥️♾️
👍
Found most of her on Apple Music. Amazing. Could we hope that Neil Young would press for the release of the one hidden in some basement…
Who knows?? He seems to release one every week 🤣
Bill Cosby was a part owner of Tetragrammaton. They were Deep Purple’s US label, which is why you could only ever get low quality boots of the Rod Evans era albums after it folded.
I couldn't bring myself to name that man :( UGH!
When she was eventually 'found' what had happened to her in the interim ? Did she have family , is she still with us ?
I would be delighted if you watched the whole video. I answer all those questions :) 😊
Hey Katie! I hope your having a nice festive hoo-ha.
I love Greasepaint Smile. I showed it in a recent video on US/Canadian folk rock artists. To be honest with you, while I kind of like her debut album, its a bit too fey and kooky for my more earthy and grounded taste. That's why Greasepaint Smile, were she'd shed much of the late 60s baroque folk style, is more up my street.
Like you I would love for her Asylum record to be released. Fingers crossed someone can find it.
Thanks for taking the time to highlight an artist who deserves better than to be a another footnote in rock musuc history.
Cheers - Hedley
Oh wow Hedley- how did I miss that video- running to watch now. Thanks for your comment.
Deed I Do was a bit of a hit for her, at least in Vancouver where it made the top 10 in the CKLG RADIO Top 40 in 1969.
Billboard magazine in April '69 said of her and the single "New voice on the disk scene, and an unusual strong commercial sound it is. Folk rhythm ballad and this performance could prove a left field giant. Watch this one!. "
Some more great info! - appreciate that! Thank you!
Great video from you (again!). Another "unnoticed album" suggestion more in the genre of Broadway - The Bridge by Elizabeth Geyer (from Australia) - Look for the RUclips video Rain Falls
Oh wow - I will! Thanks 🤩
Thanks, never heard of her. Another one album woman: Cameo (1970) by Australian Marian Henderson. It was released in the USA, and Britain, I think. Also, Primordial Lovers (1970) by Essra Mohawk was once in Rolling Stone's top 20 albums - now its all but forgotten. Essra had an interesting career under a few different names. I think she passed in the last few years.
Oh my record guy has recommend cameo! That’s a grail for me for sure! The other one I have no idea! Thank you!
@cordesrecords Essra aka Sandy Hurvitz, ex Zappa and the Mothers of Invention, among other things.
Elyse Weinberg is very good.
Agreed
@ I thought she had two albums but it turns out the other is a comp. I think it is called Grease something.
I have the 1971 album, Victoria, by the extremely obscure San Francisco folkie, Victoria Domagalski. Herbie Hancock and Ronnie Montrose play on it. She sang as a backing singer for Herbie. She was formally trained in music, which is reflected in the complexity of some of her songs. I think she released 2 albums. She's on discogs.
That’s amazing! I’ve never heard of her. I will check her out. Thanks so much.
@cordesrecords She sang on Herbie's Crossings LP. When I go vinyl shopping, I look for artists I've never heard of. Cheers.
connie converse, emily remler, judy sill
Know the last not the first two. Thank you
Interesting… I may not be from the 60s but I do sell psychedelic music and I am obscure because the genre is no longer about popular… I have a piece called Innocence Elise….. I’d like to hear this record that my own record but this record I listen to lots of music, including a lot of film music from the 1960s… I like to listen to a lot of serious movie, music and things like that helps to inspire me as well
😊
It is Orange Twin, and the Elephant 6 collective - who have a book and feature length documentary about them - also, its pretty easy to look up the Billboard charts. Heartfelt tribute which obviously worked to bring attention where it is deserved, but kinda long and rambling with no so much research?
Thanks for your comments. It was just an intro really - not an indepth. I am totally long and rambling kind of girl! BUT - thanks for watching regardless. :)
I watched this whole video then I went and listened to all her music. She ain’t an unsung hero she is a not good enough to make it big just like the majority of songwriters, singers and musicians. I’m sure she was a cool hippie chick back in the day. I’m 75 years old and was part of “it” in the sixties myself. I was hoping for a lost treasure from the sixties.
Hi Jimmy. Yes I can understand you view point. The first album particularly is an acquired taste. However the song Houses from the second one is a groove! And is just fabulous. Maybe she wasn’t “quite” the level of Laura Nyro? I really appreciate you watching the whole video 😊
I checked out Elyse - not bad, but not particularly good either.
Thanks for watching my video though. The first album is the hardest!
Deep purple mark 1 were signed to Tetregrammaton
See- not a Deep Purple super fan so did t know that!😂
after all the blah blah blah....we never get to hear the damn artist...wtf , she's got the record in her hand for christ's sake.
The album is on RUclips.
Yeah. Unfortunately I can get struck down by RUclips if I play copywriter music. Hope you at least learned something from the blah blah blah 😂
😊
I did. fwiw. 😉
@@cordesrecords ....not manners! 🙃
EDIT - Please see @stepsonTheLostTapes comment for corrected information on the Band of Theives on the first album and Neil Youngs contributions.