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Nice build! I changed my 19/19 to 21/18 wheels from smpro. Absolute epic.. the rearwheel is dished but sometimes my reartyre grabs the chain. What tyre is on your 18". I now have a 3.50 on it
LOVE that you could experience BOTH our PLUSH tune and AGGRESSIVE FastAce tune and feel the difference for yourself. For those that have never had custom tuned suspension before, 90% of experienced motocross racers will tell you it's the #1 upgrade you can do for your bike. We are thrilled that we could bring this level of performance to the market for the price of a mid-range fork!
It looks like it’s been asked a couple times, but I would love to hear how it compares to the ultra bee. How are they similar or different? It seems like overall, this should be a better setup than the ultra bee.
Depending what kind of cars…if ur like me and enjoy modding everything that falls into your hands, it might not be any cheaper than cars other than the entry ticket lol then again, I’m in the middle of building a $35-40k engine for my car. Maybe I should’ve just bought Surron’s for both me and my girlfriend and called it a day! 😂
I have a talaria, and with the 21 front wheel and face ace forks. It bottoms out on the fender. Are you seeing this same issue? Is that why you don’t have a fender installed?
Bike looks amazing and I can defiantly can hear the smile in your voice... 🙌🏼 My Sur Ron is also at the 10K mark already, absolutely love that thing! 🤙🏼
Looks awesome. Performs fantastic 50 years ago when I was a teenager I raced moto-cross and enduros and could easily see even more potential but you may need to run copper bars instead of wire to the battery lol. Ps I’m looking at a couple of options with similar equipment except for the final drive being a hub motor. Both have 15000 watt motors with 200 amp Bluetooth controller with some comfort options and 60-70 amp hour batteries and suspension options for $3800-$4000 will be using it to do a 40-50 mile round trip to Walmart or Sam’s club with a small cargo trailer. Lowest power level keeps you at 45 kph or lower ) while top speed is a claimed 140 kph. Can’t say I will never take it that fast, but this is going to be mainly in inexpensinve retirement pack mule that will be more capable and entertaining than my Magicycle.
I think it’s well worth it! That thing is awesome, I love building stuff, so, as long as you can afford it, helps the entire electric bike industry, awesome job! For me, since I’m starting with nothing but a custom built E bike, I’m going with the light bee, but thanks for your content, you’re awesome!👍👍👍
start @ 4500 plus upgrades or 6500 plus upgrades LOL. Im thinking power wise you will be better starting with ultra bee, still needs all the same upgrades otherwise
7500 vs 13000... yeah I think ultra bee is a better option if you don't want to push everything to its limit, and you're on a budget... sure you might put in an extra 500 for pegs and tires, maybe a different sized sprocket, but that should do more than enough. still 8000 vs 13000...
I got bike from China for £3k via alibaba, spent £3.3k for bac8000 plus 72v 42ah, belt uograde. Sold Orriginal battery for £800 and controller for £400 so spent roughly £5k = $6000 for and absolute weapon that goes off road and on paths with our drawing too much attention. Wheelies up to 40mph and not taken it past 66mph without a helmet. But it would pull more comfortably
SEEEMS LIKE IT BE cheaPER TO just build a bike from scratch and have the same or better considering about the only thing you kept from a $5000 stock surron (tax + shipping) is the frame and brakes ?
Yep last piece of the complete custom Sur Ron light bee puzzle is a custom frame option. Once you can get a frame then you save a ton of $$$ I’m not having to buy a stock light bee. Wish BBR would come out with a Sur Ron frame that would be trick.
Yet another awesome video! Curious, if you were to do the Tennessee knockout all over again would you choose this bike over the electric motion or do you still want the clutch? Thanks
Absolutely worth it so much you can do with the SurRon. Street to Mountain on the fly from Excel 1 into Street Moto Michelin high sports 15 kilowatt 80 Mph on 72 volt Bac 8000 tune .
Modding is for fun and to learn. It's more of a hobby than a wise financial decision. Surrons cannot be transformed into Freerides or Vargs no matter how much money you throw at them.
Yes they really different so why try to make it like a full-size dirt bike it's loose the interest of the light bee.. It's not agile and heavy with all this mods and it will not be better than a stark varg for the same price.
It’s always expensive to build any bike with custom improvements like you did for performance, now hopefully Suron is working on offering something like that . What you did is no different than what guys were doing big bore and stroking 250 four stroke dirt bikes before Yamaha brought the revolutionary YZF 400 out 25 years ago that ushered in a new era of light weight high revving four strokes dirt bikes.
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You’re right about all of that. But here’s where you realize they’re two completely different bikes. Can you imagine taking a Stark Varg to a singltrack mountain bike trail? With narrow and steep short uphill chutes. It’s just too much bike for stuff like that. If u wanna take it out in wide open spaces like desert or on track, the Stark is obviously the better choice. But for tight tech stuff where u need to be able to man-handle the bike a bit, that’s where this XX build will benefit
Does the controller cut power when brakes are applied? Can you hold the throttle open and rear brake on then release the brake and get something like a clutch kick?
@@looking_33 I still can't afford one, so I'll be on a $2000 125 two stroke. And to be honest I don't really want to go any faster. I wish they had a 150cc air cooled four stroke race bikes, and classes for them, that would be perfect IMO
Awesome... I can hear your smile-muscles straining while you're riding it! Just curious why you don't run the MX style seat kit on a build like this for better ergos? I don't own/ride a SurRon, but the transition between the low seat to obtrusive hard plastic battery cover always seemed like it would be awkward to me... especially when putting such a high performance build through it's paces. Thanks for the great content!
Watch the last 2 or 3 videos on our channel where we build a similar bike with an 85cc fork. The additional work and cost to make it happen takes some serious consideration.
My bike has a WP Air fork from a 2022 KTM85. It took a ton of $$$ to make it work correctly because it destroyed the geometry of the bike since it is 3" longer. While it was a fun project and in the end it's a very competitive bike it's now a different bike. A racer would love it but it's way overkill (and too expensive) for your average play bike. I would recommend waiting for the new EXT fork, it will be a better match for the surron and far cheaper because you won't have to mod the entire bike to make it work properly.
@@BrianLampright913 Thanks. I know your bike and YT channel. I ride a bomber 58 and I'm thinking about WP suspension. In Europe it costs twice the bomber 58. Do you know what travel the EXT will have? I'm waiting for your bike testing video😁
I'm very interested in a like-budget comparison. If you're spending $13k and you can only afford one, what do you get? Modified Sur-Ron, Stark Varg, EM Escape R, or KTM Freeride??
Yeah the big difference to me from what I’ve seen is the Stark Varg is a true Motocross E-cycle. The modded Surron is a bike u can take out to your favorite single track trails and some desert or woods spots and have a blast while also taking an occasional trip out to a track.
Where is the value over a regular ECB dirt bike? What is the benefit, like realistically? I could buy any dirt bike I could want even buy 2 and a trailer to tow them and gear for 13k. It also seems that those electric bikes are still too rigid, to actually race one. Plus after a few laps you're down on power. I get it you appreciate the concept of riding a dirt bike with an electric drill powering it. But as far as i can tell nothing you get from that bike is better from a equivalent frame sized dirt bike from basically any brand. For a 3rd the cost.
Quiet, can ride about anywhere, more of a modded sized pit bike, definitely has it’s advantages over gas dirtbikes. Think of adding to your garage with a gas bike, if you can afford, this Sur Ron would be a blast!!
Fun. It’s the one thing that’s tough to put a price tag on. We love our dirt bikes (so does Tucker) but like he said in the video, the electric bikes just put a smile on your face the whole time you’re riding. I personally love the lightweight speed of my Surron build vs my much heavier KTM 350. If you’re lucky enough to have both, do it!
I own one and own multiple dirt bikes and pit bikes. I reach for my Surron more often than my other bikes just out of convenience. Can ride out of my driveway without bothering the neighbors. Can ride it around the pits without using up fuel. I never intended on replacing any of my ICE bikes with it. Just another bike to ride and man is it just plain fun to ride too.
Okay so that's a fair use case, I could see one being vastly more usable then a pit bike in a pit bike use case, it still seems pretty noisy when your riding flat out. It's definitely really cool, 13k is just a lot for what still seems to me like a toy for enthusiasts, Which again is fine if that's your thing , I just feel like manufacturers jumped the gun and should be refining them instead of using their buyers as test subjects in essence. If you look at pre owned zero, you realize just a few years or few thousand miles vastly degrades to the point where your buying something destined for the garbage bin. My fear is how disposable these are when people would keep a dirt bike for 10+ years. I like the possibilities but I'm concerned about the waste that's gonna get created getting there.
@@Natepwnsu So far the aftermarket behind the Surron is encouraging that these bikes will live a long productive life. They are actually very well made which I know is hard to believe for those of us that always equate China to building junk. Obviously a controversial subject but when companies like Apple began manufacturing in China we taught them how to make high quality products.
For most it is way too expensive especially when the big brother comes out. Could you list the things you paid for in that price? Hard to see as you changes some stuff.
Hi. What do you think? This built is better (or bigger fun) to ride like KTM E-Freeride? Would you replace Surron if you could get a KTM for free? Thank You!
Yep, same!! I’m building an engine that’s gonna cost 35-40k for one of my stupid hobbies!! Wait, maybe it’s not the hobby’s that are stupid…maybe it’s the bobbyists 😂
Thank you for investing time and money to show us how capable it is. But gawd damn that's too much for the $$$!!!!!!! Mind as well order Stark or a real motorcycle.
Yeah? Nobody compares them anyway so... Two different leagues and i hope you gonna get more wide open for tehnology and what is ahead of us. I have 250 and 450 they are machines, but fun factor and that full torque response modified surron all day
Great video, but it's still lipstick on a pig🤣 ...extremely expensive to try to turn this China bike into a real motorcycle ultimately, it still doesn't have the powertrain, range, suspension, and cockpit size one needs to perform in the manner all the effort and cost is directed toward.
Totally get your point of view as I'm a huge MX guy. However, once you ride one of these you'll understand it's a very different bike due to its size and weight. It's a play bike and it is insanely fun to ride. Most of the MX guys we know who also have a Surron admit they actually ride the surron more than their MX bike because it's so easy to get out and ride on locally without driving to a track or OHV park. And from that perspective (riding more) it can be money well spent.
@@BrianLampright913 I got my eMoto before these China bikes were sold on the market. I understand what they are. I have a Class 1 eMTB that I enjoy riding locally. Aside from this bike being excessively expensive for what its capabilities are, the latest problem with these electric motorcycles in more urbanized areas is that too many young punks with no experience are using them on Trails where they don't belong and destroying Trails, as well as crashing into other Trail users. So essentially the concept of riding these illegally, more locally is not a sustainable solution for these small electric motorcycles. I found that it's a better model to have a mountain bike an/or an electric mountain bike and a proper full size motorcycle because it provides all the capabilities of riding trails as well as getting cardio Fitness. The other big problem with these China bikes is they help fund Chinese spy balloons that are getting shot down over the United States and Canada right now🤔
I would love this build, wow looks ace! My misses would leave me if i spent that much money 🤣🤣👍🏻 the way the worlds going looks like everything is only ever going to get more expensive 🫰
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now we are waiting for track time attack of modded SurRon LBX vs SurRon Ultra vs SurRon Storm :)
The fact that these damn things cost as much as a small car is absurd. How many could they possibly sell? Get it closer to $5k and then talk to me
I know you mentioned the total weight (155 lbs.) but what's the wheelbase on your custom rig ?
Nice build! I changed my 19/19 to 21/18 wheels from smpro. Absolute epic.. the rearwheel is dished but sometimes my reartyre grabs the chain. What tyre is on your 18". I now have a 3.50 on it
LOVE that you could experience BOTH our PLUSH tune and AGGRESSIVE FastAce tune and feel the difference for yourself. For those that have never had custom tuned suspension before, 90% of experienced motocross racers will tell you it's the #1 upgrade you can do for your bike. We are thrilled that we could bring this level of performance to the market for the price of a mid-range fork!
Is it worth the money if you're already happy with stock? I don't ride very aggressively so I don't think id notice a big difference
@@CHASEJIMMYMN lol you kind of answered your own question I think. When you feel like you need more get a tune.
💯 Custom tuned suspension will improve your riding more than any other upgrade.
I’m sure everyone has asked this …but at this point what do you enjoy more the, light bee or ultra bee?
The Ultra Bee. He says it in the video released after this one where he compares all 3 Surons. (However I think he's comparing them as stock)
Whats better, this Mod one, or an Ultra Bee?
Ultra Bee Is better looking imo
It looks like it’s been asked a couple times, but I would love to hear how it compares to the ultra bee. How are they similar or different? It seems like overall, this should be a better setup than the ultra bee.
ya me too
Me too
Man that thing soaked up those whoops! Always awesome watching you shred 🤘
Amazing! Is it on par with ultra bee, in terms of performance?
Bro that's one Nice Sur Ron!
woohoo just started the series yesterday! i can't afford car's anymore so now I'm looking at bikes, I love the surron aftermarket support.
Depending what kind of cars…if ur like me and enjoy modding everything that falls into your hands, it might not be any cheaper than cars other than the entry ticket lol then again, I’m in the middle of building a $35-40k engine for my car. Maybe I should’ve just bought Surron’s for both me and my girlfriend and called it a day! 😂
I have a talaria, and with the 21 front wheel and face ace forks. It bottoms out on the fender. Are you seeing this same issue? Is that why you don’t have a fender installed?
Bike looks amazing and I can defiantly can hear the smile in your voice... 🙌🏼 My Sur Ron is also at the 10K mark already, absolutely love that thing! 🤙🏼
💯
I regret selling mine 🙈
@@Emtbwebb buy another 🫡
Looks awesome. Performs fantastic 50 years ago when I was a teenager I raced moto-cross and enduros and could easily see even more potential but you may need to run copper bars instead of wire to the battery lol. Ps I’m looking at a couple of options with similar equipment except for the final drive being a hub motor. Both have 15000 watt motors with 200 amp Bluetooth controller with some comfort options and 60-70 amp hour batteries and suspension options for $3800-$4000 will be using it to do a 40-50 mile round trip to Walmart or Sam’s club with a small cargo trailer. Lowest power level keeps you at 45 kph or lower ) while top speed is a claimed 140 kph. Can’t say I will never take it that fast, but this is going to be mainly in inexpensinve retirement pack mule that will be more capable and entertaining than my Magicycle.
I think it’s well worth it! That thing is awesome, I love building stuff, so, as long as you can afford it, helps the entire electric bike industry, awesome job! For me, since I’m starting with nothing but a custom built E bike, I’m going with the light bee, but thanks for your content, you’re awesome!👍👍👍
Great Set Up! Do you have overheating problem with Stock motor ? Could you check temp on display? Regards,
Do you think Ultra Bee is better option for money compared to heavily modified lightbee?
start @ 4500 plus upgrades or 6500 plus upgrades LOL. Im thinking power wise you will be better starting with ultra bee, still needs all the same upgrades otherwise
7500 vs 13000... yeah I think ultra bee is a better option if you don't want to push everything to its limit, and you're on a budget... sure you might put in an extra 500 for pegs and tires, maybe a different sized sprocket, but that should do more than enough. still 8000 vs 13000...
* plus an ultra bee will be road legal. and upgraded surron is never road legal.. or at least in europe it isn't...
I got bike from China for £3k via alibaba, spent £3.3k for bac8000 plus 72v 42ah, belt uograde.
Sold Orriginal battery for £800 and controller for £400 so spent roughly £5k = $6000 for and absolute weapon that goes off road and on paths with our drawing too much attention. Wheelies up to 40mph and not taken it past 66mph without a helmet. But it would pull more comfortably
SEEEMS LIKE IT BE cheaPER TO just build a bike from scratch and have the same or better considering about the only thing you kept from a $5000 stock surron (tax + shipping) is the frame and brakes ?
Yep last piece of the complete custom Sur Ron light bee puzzle is a custom frame option. Once you can get a frame then you save a ton of $$$ I’m not having to buy a stock light bee. Wish BBR would come out with a Sur Ron frame that would be trick.
Damn, that's like Varg price, and can't imagine they compare.. ignoring the 2+ years delivery.. lmao
You're right, this is 90lbs lighter than the varg. Imagine riding a bike with 9 bowling balls vs one without 9 bowling balls.
Yet another awesome video! Curious, if you were to do the Tennessee knockout all over again would you choose this bike over the electric motion or do you still want the clutch? Thanks
Please compare it to the ultra bee
Please dont cuz there is nothing to compare
Absolutely worth it so much you can do with the SurRon. Street to Mountain on the fly from Excel 1 into Street Moto Michelin high sports 15 kilowatt 80 Mph on 72 volt Bac 8000 tune .
Great job on the video! Thanks for making it.
Where were the single tracks shown today located? Please I’m in CO
Pretty sure towards the end of the video he says Croom in Florida
what is you seat height after the changes ? Im a short guy and 58 like to have sure footing for the technical stuff
What kind of gear do you recommend for trail riding on Surron?
It's totally worth it, if you get all the parts for free! $13k for a Surron is ridiculous, unless your job is to feed content on RUclips.
Cry broke bozo
Modding is for fun and to learn. It's more of a hobby than a wise financial decision. Surrons cannot be transformed into Freerides or Vargs no matter how much money you throw at them.
And there is no need to compare then either. Weight difference is huge
@@simonasimak9523 Yeah. They are two entirely different machines and classes of ebikes for sure with weight and size.
Yes they really different so why try to make it like a full-size dirt bike it's loose the interest of the light bee.. It's not agile and heavy with all this mods and it will not be better than a stark varg for the same price.
How does it compare to the CZEM ?
It’s always expensive to build any bike with custom improvements like you did for performance, now hopefully Suron is working on offering something like that . What you did is no different than what guys were doing big bore and stroking 250 four stroke dirt bikes before Yamaha brought the revolutionary YZF 400 out 25 years ago that ushered in a new era of light weight high revving four strokes dirt bikes.
Sur Ron built it and will be available in the next month or two, it’s the Ultra Bee.
@@pauldanrich3919 Technically true... But that looks like a Motocross, not a Mountainbike... In many countries, that makes a GIANT difference...
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Looks amazing
could go for stark varg for that price.. :p also 13k. thing has 80hp thats about a 450cc dirtbike power for the same money
You’re right about all of that. But here’s where you realize they’re two completely different bikes. Can you imagine taking a Stark Varg to a singltrack mountain bike trail? With narrow and steep short uphill chutes. It’s just too much bike for stuff like that. If u wanna take it out in wide open spaces like desert or on track, the Stark is obviously the better choice. But for tight tech stuff where u need to be able to man-handle the bike a bit, that’s where this XX build will benefit
Does the controller cut power when brakes are applied? Can you hold the throttle open and rear brake on then release the brake and get something like a clutch kick?
Such a blast! Looks like a perfect bike for a serious geezer rider, but damn, I wish we could make it look (no disrespect intended)..better.
...meanwhile I bought an 84 kawi for $600 and fixing it to ride this summer.
I bought a like new extremely low hour 2003 CR125 for $1500 that would smoke this in every way 😀😊
@@MX-CO30kw sur rons beat 250s in drags lmao
@@looking_33 I still can't afford one, so I'll be on a $2000 125 two stroke.
And to be honest I don't really want to go any faster.
I wish they had a 150cc air cooled four stroke race bikes, and classes for them, that would be perfect IMO
Awesome... I can hear your smile-muscles straining while you're riding it!
Just curious why you don't run the MX style seat kit on a build like this for better ergos?
I don't own/ride a SurRon, but the transition between the low seat to obtrusive hard plastic battery cover always seemed like it would be awkward to me... especially when putting such a high performance build through it's paces.
Thanks for the great content!
Fast Ace with heaviest spring, or Ferro forks for a heavier trail rider? Very seldom any jumps or air for me.
how is this builds va the ultra bee?
When SX 85 fork?
Watch the last 2 or 3 videos on our channel where we build a similar bike with an 85cc fork. The additional work and cost to make it happen takes some serious consideration.
My bike has a WP Air fork from a 2022 KTM85. It took a ton of $$$ to make it work correctly because it destroyed the geometry of the bike since it is 3" longer. While it was a fun project and in the end it's a very competitive bike it's now a different bike. A racer would love it but it's way overkill (and too expensive) for your average play bike. I would recommend waiting for the new EXT fork, it will be a better match for the surron and far cheaper because you won't have to mod the entire bike to make it work properly.
@@BrianLampright913 Thanks. I know your bike and YT channel. I ride a bomber 58 and I'm thinking about WP suspension. In Europe it costs twice the bomber 58. Do you know what travel the EXT will have?
I'm waiting for your bike testing video😁
I'm very interested in a like-budget comparison. If you're spending $13k and you can only afford one, what do you get? Modified Sur-Ron, Stark Varg, EM Escape R, or KTM Freeride??
Stark varg looks insane! Takes 10 years on waiting list to get one though 🤣🤪
Some people want 155lbs not 255lbs for single track. Each has its place.
Yeah the big difference to me from what I’ve seen is the Stark Varg is a true Motocross E-cycle. The modded Surron is a bike u can take out to your favorite single track trails and some desert or woods spots and have a blast while also taking an occasional trip out to a track.
Sur ron is king forever . 6 years strong
How much power is in mode 3 ? Also would love to see this bike vs a gas bike in a single trail ? 😂👍
You could have bought a Stark Varg for that price.
What’s a trustworthy website to buy a surron online?
What’s difference between surron x vs xx?
That's a sexy looking bike man digging that swingarm sweet build man 🤘🏼
Super sick
If dirt bikes need a 21" front wheel, eBikes definitely do. I raised my bars 3", good to go...would like your front forks😍 thanks!
Where is the value over a regular ECB dirt bike? What is the benefit, like realistically? I could buy any dirt bike I could want even buy 2 and a trailer to tow them and gear for 13k. It also seems that those electric bikes are still too rigid, to actually race one. Plus after a few laps you're down on power. I get it you appreciate the concept of riding a dirt bike with an electric drill powering it. But as far as i can tell nothing you get from that bike is better from a equivalent frame sized dirt bike from basically any brand. For a 3rd the cost.
Quiet, can ride about anywhere, more of a modded sized pit bike, definitely has it’s advantages over gas dirtbikes. Think of adding to your garage with a gas bike, if you can afford, this Sur Ron would be a blast!!
Fun. It’s the one thing that’s tough to put a price tag on. We love our dirt bikes (so does Tucker) but like he said in the video, the electric bikes just put a smile on your face the whole time you’re riding. I personally love the lightweight speed of my Surron build vs my much heavier KTM 350. If you’re lucky enough to have both, do it!
I own one and own multiple dirt bikes and pit bikes. I reach for my Surron more often than my other bikes just out of convenience. Can ride out of my driveway without bothering the neighbors. Can ride it around the pits without using up fuel. I never intended on replacing any of my ICE bikes with it. Just another bike to ride and man is it just plain fun to ride too.
Okay so that's a fair use case, I could see one being vastly more usable then a pit bike in a pit bike use case, it still seems pretty noisy when your riding flat out. It's definitely really cool, 13k is just a lot for what still seems to me like a toy for enthusiasts, Which again is fine if that's your thing , I just feel like manufacturers jumped the gun and should be refining them instead of using their buyers as test subjects in essence. If you look at pre owned zero, you realize just a few years or few thousand miles vastly degrades to the point where your buying something destined for the garbage bin. My fear is how disposable these are when people would keep a dirt bike for 10+ years. I like the possibilities but I'm concerned about the waste that's gonna get created getting there.
@@Natepwnsu So far the aftermarket behind the Surron is encouraging that these bikes will live a long productive life. They are actually very well made which I know is hard to believe for those of us that always equate China to building junk. Obviously a controversial subject but when companies like Apple began manufacturing in China we taught them how to make high quality products.
For most it is way too expensive especially when the big brother comes out.
Could you list the things you paid for in that price? Hard to see as you changes some stuff.
Hi. What do you think? This built is better (or bigger fun) to ride like KTM E-Freeride?
Would you replace Surron if you could get a KTM for free?
Thank You!
... Stock brakes?
What the point buying surron if you gonna change the controller?
Idk but I just bought a ebmx9k for my Surron 🤣😈🤟🏼
@@_donjose i mean isn’t it better to go for custom bike then?
At that price why not buy the stark varg or the storm B.
weight
Noob questions
It's cool but too expensive. Especially if it's not road legal in Europe this way. Ultra and storm are.
i though the stock motor will melt on 72v?
Its more about the tune, too many phase amps at too high of kw and/or field weakening are the 3 things that can overheat it.
@@mrskywalker115 I wonder if you would have more gain with the KO motor
@@javisuave7668 no doubt. Charged cycle works just posted a video a few days ago showing just that scenario, no overheating with long steep climbs
@@mrskywalker115 Awesome, Thank you got all the information and the great work!
A custom bike for THAT amount would be soooo muuuch better
Surrons should just sell the frame
man this is it ;)
We were supposed to have flying cars by now but we're busy taking the "BRAAAP!" out of dirt bikes.🙄
,I want to see it climb a long steep hill
So upsetting literally every hobby I enjoy costs an arm and a leg.
Yep, same!! I’m building an engine that’s gonna cost 35-40k for one of my stupid hobbies!! Wait, maybe it’s not the hobby’s that are stupid…maybe it’s the bobbyists 😂
You can get a real bike for that kind of money
Thank you for investing time and money to show us how capable it is. But gawd damn that's too much for the $$$!!!!!!! Mind as well order Stark or a real motorcycle.
🤙🏼⚡🤙🏼
No
$13,000 SURRON X Build FINALLY Revealed… Is It Worth It? Nope !
Hahaha nothing Surron is left. WTF
The frame 🫣
Nö, No, No.....
13k? I'll buy a dirt bike or a car...thanks
Nope not worth 13,000. I’m good
You could get a 2023 Yamaha YZ125/250 for that price rather than that electric pile of crap.
Yeah? Nobody compares them anyway so...
Two different leagues and i hope you gonna get more wide open for tehnology and what is ahead of us.
I have 250 and 450 they are machines, but fun factor and that full torque response modified surron all day
13k mental illness 😂
Great video, but it's still lipstick on a pig🤣 ...extremely expensive to try to turn this China bike into a real motorcycle ultimately, it still doesn't have the powertrain, range, suspension, and cockpit size one needs to perform in the manner all the effort and cost is directed toward.
Totally get your point of view as I'm a huge MX guy. However, once you ride one of these you'll understand it's a very different bike due to its size and weight. It's a play bike and it is insanely fun to ride. Most of the MX guys we know who also have a Surron admit they actually ride the surron more than their MX bike because it's so easy to get out and ride on locally without driving to a track or OHV park. And from that perspective (riding more) it can be money well spent.
@@BrianLampright913 I got my eMoto before these China bikes were sold on the market. I understand what they are. I have a Class 1 eMTB that I enjoy riding locally. Aside from this bike being excessively expensive for what its capabilities are, the latest problem with these electric motorcycles in more urbanized areas is that too many young punks with no experience are using them on Trails where they don't belong and destroying Trails, as well as crashing into other Trail users. So essentially the concept of riding these illegally, more locally is not a sustainable solution for these small electric motorcycles. I found that it's a better model to have a mountain bike an/or an electric mountain bike and a proper full size motorcycle because it provides all the capabilities of riding trails as well as getting cardio Fitness. The other big problem with these China bikes is they help fund Chinese spy balloons that are getting shot down over the United States and Canada right now🤔
Pretty boring video. To much onboard pov.
lame.
Nope.
I would love this build, wow looks ace! My misses would leave me if i spent that much money 🤣🤣👍🏻 the way the worlds going looks like everything is only ever going to get more expensive 🫰