Here is one more advice for learning to drift: Practice on wet roads. Because you don't need that much power, the speed is lower so it's easier to react and you don't fuck up your tires as much.
That's a horrible idea. You WANT grip. It sounds counterintuitive but you can easily go loop around, especially in a stock car without much steering lock. It's much better to start with less angle and be in control so you understand where the looping point is.
HaloToday nope. Sorry. It was first true on the new F10 M5. It doesn't even have a distinguishable intake note. It has E60 M5 V10 with some E92 M3 V8. Basically, it's a blender of BMW intake noises from the past. Plus, you can't hear the exhaust anyways.
I loved to drift my old E30 coupe in the rain. Just select second gear, pop the clutch at the entry to break the rear lose and choose angle and speed at will. My recommendation for learning how to drift on the cheap: BMW E30 or E36. They share the rear axle and most of the front axle btw. so availability and costs for spare parts are not an issue no matter how often you curb-stomp the thing. Sturdy good sounding engines with enough power for the low weight of these old cars. They are light in the rear and the factory suspension including sport and M variants have quite a bit of body roll, but thats actually a good thing because it helps you feel and understand the weight shifts better. Unless it's a M3 stay away from E46, though. Too much weight and too much base understeer to make it a fun ride without throwing lots of cash at the suspension. If the 90s flair of the old bimmers isn't for you just go V8 muscle. Or buy a M2 if money is not an issue I guess^^. Most fun BMW I've ever driven: Z4 M Coupe If you like the shape and find one for cheap, just get it. These things are a riot even completely stock.
I have an M3 and have had a few close calls trying.... but I only ever have 'fun' late at night or with zero traffic around *coughs* on a private airfield
ouch, I canned my old mans lexus sc430 trying to do this on muddy B-roads when I was 18. Lost my license for 6 months and wrote the car off but I havn't had an accident in the 4 years since. Live and learn...
***** Got to start somewhere man lol I remember when I was 16 in a old 3 series.. I had some close calls and some near death experiences at over 100 because I was irresponsible at 17 still hahah but with more experience and a little track time I can now properly drive. I also thought that I earned enough experience to upgrade to an M3 which helped teach me more. Although I am nearly 24 now so this all took a while but I managed to never get in any accidents. Except when that rotting old lady ran into while I was taking my drivers ed license exam at 15.. I think she's dead now. lmao Anyway.. The point is, everyone is a "shitty driving peasant" at some point, don't hate, if they keep hacking at it they'll learn. They however will always be a shitty driving peasant If they give up or are scared off due to some close call. At that point they will clog our roads with the rest of the driving imbeciles that comprise our general public. If that happens then, join me in hating the shit out of every one of them when they inconvenience us on the road, crash into us or make us sit in 2 hour long highway traffic because it rained a little and like 5 of them flew of the damn road!!! Hahah
I have drifted a prius on a dirt road, with the e-brake lol. It had a floor pedal ebrake, so i had to stomp down twice, once to lock the back tires, and then jam down even further to unlock the dumb pedal ebrake
Lots of Respect for Chris Harris's Drifting skills. I tried drifting an M6 on a track and spun a dozen times before getting it right. Even when i did get it right i dont have enough track time to retain a feel for it. There is this little moment you have to react to right before the car starts to slide. If you wait until you feel the slide the car will spin.
And what if that "FWD 4 banger" is a Renault Megane RS 265? A car that would make any RWD car on the market with less than 400hp cry to his mommy on a track? :P
derbigpr500 The only way you can slide your back out in your RS 265 is to put your backwheels on McDonalds trays and go in circles. He wasn't talking about laptimes you know..
Should follow this up with an episode on AWD drifting. Whole different ball game. When I had an STi I nearly got myself in trouble trying to drift and not realizing the front wheels would pull the front end and cause a tank slapper, as Chris put it.
Aftermarket LSD needed for Initial torque and braking sensitivity (lift off oversteer), Power controller for power distribution 70% rear 30% front works well, more power and a splash of handbrake FTW
***** hes whining about how paying one dollar for a 15-20 min chris harris video is a massive rip off. why should we pay people for the service that they provide us???? why should we help them try to break even after enjoying years of high quality free content????
I learned how to drift as a teenager back in the 2000s from Chris's Harrises e39 M5 drift video lol. I'm back in my early 30s with an e46 M3 and an M235i and nothings changed much
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With the initiation technique in this video, a lot of people will come up to a corner, slam the throttle before even turning in, panic because they don't know what to do, then understeer into a wall or tree. Don't try this without properly understanding your car. You need to know how your car reacts to weight transfers while cornering and how quickly it loses traction. A nice way to start with drifting, is by 'throwing' the car around. If there's a corner to the right, brake lightly, steer a little to the right, to the left and then to the right again (with the natural 'rythem' of the car, while making sure that you do not understeer). You'll upset the car's balance: the rear wants to move to the front of the car (oversteer). while steering to the right, you countersteer while giving it some gas depending on the power of your car. (Full throttle in some cars will cause an instant spin. In some underpowered cars you will need to floor it.) You'll maintain that initial oversteer by spinning the wheels and controlling the steering angle. Coming out of the drift, you should use the method Chris is using in the video.
+1 on that and also it is important to understand the tires you have. Some tires hate to lose grip in the dry or semi wet but will get sideways easily in the wet or slick roads. Speaking from experience, if you wanna learn to drift try to do donuts in an E M P T Y parking lot around a cone or a shoe then try to counter it. Best way to learn is small then going to bigger turns like skid pads or some small industrial turns. Don’t do it in traffic.
I had a little black and rusty BMW E36 316i...I loooooved that car! It taught me how to drift on snowy back roads/ industrial areas! Later on it worked in the wet. Eventhough i destroyed 2 Wheels while "rallying" in the woods and getting to close to the sidewalk in the rain, it was still the most fun i could've ever had! A few good songs, an empty snowy/rainy Industrial arae with alot of intersections, corners and chicanes and big wide roads and i would empty a whole tank in only one night go to McDonalds, fuel my little beemer up and go again. Damn, i miss it...
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I'm 17 and I drive an e46 m3. Unfortunately there isn't a public circuit within 50 miles of me so I tried this in the summer at my local high school. It has wide corners that make it a popular local drift spot lol. My first go I nailed the entry and was able to sustain it but during the exit I about tank slapped it, the exit is definitely the hardest part but I was able to complete the drift after about 5 tries.
+Gabriel Gonzalez I initially bought a 2006 Scion tC with my own money. I have been working since I was 14 and I'm now a supervisor at the place at work. I just saved up a lot of money and had some help from my parents. I bought the tC and was able to sell it a few months later for the exact same price I bought it at. Eventually I had enough money to buy an e46 m3 coupe with 91,000 miles on it
Everyone look at the massive grin on Chris's face at 5:27! Fantastic stuff. Now seriously, Chris, we hardcore car fans would love nothing more than a series of you providing the best racig skills u have starting from the fundamentals. Nothing better.
Oh snap there’s a shitstorm coming because we’re going subscription only, quick, let’s release an unscheduled video with Chris Harris drifting! That’ll calm them down! . . . nope.
Those slow-mo shots are pure poetry. I have a question though, what could go wrong with the car in case of a botched drift, or frequent drifting? What are necessary measures to prevent a blown up clutch ?
uhhhhh you can have nothing happen to having your entire car destroyed if you botch a drift....depends what you botch up. Whatever's the weakest link on your car will blow when you fuck up and you'll know it, more likely you'll need to get good at bodywork. Don't worry about what you're going to break because if you really want to get into drifting you'll be tearing your car apart quite a bit anyway.
I cant remember how many times I've watched Chris's video with his M5 !! It was such a big help for drifting any car, very basic but very helpful tips.
Great video and talk through for what it is teaching. I would love to see a more advanced video with the full throttle sideways entry that is typical of the D1 competition using the scandi flick. I know their cars are fully set up for zero traction and control at the limit (not your typical BMW) using all the suspension settings and handbrake but the power-slide is a bit different. As you probably know they enter the corner sideways and maintain all the way through at crazy angles. Not typically fast but great to watch, next challenge Chris!
This video is ace he makes it look easy! I've just bought a 220d. The 2 series truly is an amazing car to drive. Last of the real BMWs, compact, RWD, sporty and really fun to drive.
I was doing great until I knocked over that fire hydrant. What do you do with the throttle and/or steering to stop that shaft of water shooting up in the air?
People slate the new top gear but you know your stuff. Explain it really well. I pretty much learnt myself when I had an e46 330ci clubsport with th classic sensor fail so drive it everywhere with no driver aids at all lol. All or nothing. Awesome vid
/DRIVE I'm assuming the out of sync thing is the glitchy lines, then yes I still have them. And when they are inside the car facing Chris, but it doesn't really matter, most people don't watch 1080 anyway :) (I think)
I found the best learning to control drifting came from driving in the snow at 1 a.m with lots of visibility. I wont likely be transfering it to pavement because A Its too hard on tires when dry and B, I don't have a track to practice on. (implying risk/reward is too slim)
This is the condition in which I like to drift, and for the same reasons. Not to mention that I currently drive a lifted Jeep Rubicon, so if I attempted a drift on dry pavement, I would most likely roll it.
John Galt My 2001 Cherokee is so easy to drift with an automatic. In the rain or snow. It is silly. No body roll at all. After a few 180's my ex could drift very well. In the Cherokee or the 135is in the wet.
70chevelle8 Yep the longer the wheelbase the more easy a car is to drift. To a point. The S10's were big in drifting till cars hit the 500 hp range. With the right suspension set up. The S10's handled really well.
Porsche Camp 4S 2012 - Instructors Video Thank you Chris At Porsche we teach drifting made with the brakes, creating the weight transfer with trail braking. The problem with drifting with gas is that only few cars allow you to drift above a second gear, due to power and torque. To drift with brakes allows to drift at any speed and any gear, as you know very well. We do it on slippery surfaces, like water, ice and snow since to do it on dry tarmac is extremely expensive for most of drivers. On slippery surfaces the speed is lower hence the driver understand the dynamics better and faster. I am attaching here the link of a training day for us instructors on a lake in Finland. All the best and congratulations on your great work. Porsche Camp 4S 2012 - Instructors Video
The last free video from Drive. The last thumbs up I'm ever gonna throw their way. I loved you Drive, but you ripped my heart right out of my chest. Back to my anti depressant medication, crappy office job, and crappy work car.
Doppelkupplung No I mean lots of people see someone doing a powerslide (or even a handbrake turn like in some videos i have seen) and are like "OMG look at them drifting!" but if you look at actual drifting (competitions) there is a lot more to it, its kind of hard to explain they will initiate the drift a lot earlier and keep the slide going a lot longer than in this video, one of my friends put it quite well and said powersliding is sliding around a corner and drifting is sliding before you get to the corner.
Put grippy tyres on the front and rubbish tyres on the back,then in mid bend lift off the throttle and you will go sideways.Then as you are about to spin pin the throttle wide open and the back will come in to line! Sounds easy? Leave plenty of space!
this more powerful bmw equipped with an lsd is way easier to drift and is simply better at drifting. toyota needs more power, it's essentially made to be tuned and customized.. definitely needs more power for proper drifting
The GT86 struggles at stage 2, sustaining the drift, that lack of torque doesn't help to spin the tires at all. Most GT86 drifts are either momentum skids or handbrake ones.
MTC0316 you can't play with the power.. you can only enter the corner in 2nd gear and hope it will have enough power to sustain the drift which is fun in it's own way, it's good to start with. for anything more serious, it needs more power and it's meant to be that way. with extra 70 hp and about the same amount of torque, it wouldn't be any worse than this bmw.
Very useful Chris! Big fan! What I like about ur car review is that you actually do focus on DRIVING and feeling of the cars which those what we really care about! Not just only the look and 0-60....
Chris, your a great driver and better instructor. Thank you for your life of service for the automotive industry. You're my hero. A nice, genuinely nice fellow whom loves cars and drifting as much as I. Be blessed and slide on.
This is not helpful as much as the drift bible is. By keiichi tsuchiya. 2 Hours of instructional and step by step guidance from the drift king himself.
A drift car shouldn't need anything more than a quick change in direction to initiate. If you're flooring the throttle to initiate, then you're powersliding. This video is a half-assed attempt to explain drifting. Go watch Tsuchiya's Drift Bible.
a drift can be initiated in any number of ways, it depends on the course, the driver and his/her personal preferences, vehicle speed and skill. You can initiate by doing the scandavian flick (extreme weight transfer)/you can use weight transfer (the method you describe) a popular method is to race up, downshift, ebrake with clutch in, pop clutch, flick and counter-steer, work throttle to maintain and either kick clutch to gain angle/ebrake to slow down for a decreasing radius/tandem....while you're drifting you just steer, you can also just clutch kick....with anything it all takes practice and the right mindset.
roywhiteo5 you are aware that that all the Japanese D1 drivers are going to drift and driving schools, right? The "Drift Bible" teached me a lot, despite I wasn't bad on the mountain roads and I still like to watch drift footage because, there is always somebody better out there.
"Go to an open airfield" - yeah, but watch out for planes xD I learned how to drift in the snow. Actually on public roads and parking lots, but where nothing could happen. Just try to not crash into a lantern. On snowy roads you can drift with every car - but bear in mind that drifting on snowy roads is quite different from drifting on dry roads, although it easier to learn and the basics are kind of the same. Not the same (because if the surface is slippery you can also drift with a front wheel car), but almost.
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Here is one more advice for learning to drift:
Practice on wet roads.
Because you don't need that much power, the speed is lower so it's easier to react and you don't fuck up your tires as much.
And it's so much smoother
Snow
That's a horrible idea. You WANT grip. It sounds counterintuitive but you can easily go loop around, especially in a stock car without much steering lock. It's much better to start with less angle and be in control so you understand where the looping point is.
My dog drifts on on my wooden floor. He's rear wheel drive
I'm sorry about your two-legged dog.
Actually every single dog is configured AWD so your dog actually did a power slide
@@SimpleManMike Nah just a rear wheel drive mode. 90% power sent to rear wheels
Same😂
My dog is all wheel drive
I did this with my mum's vovlo xc90 and now go to boarding school
Anony mous is it kinda jail there ?
+Fucked ur Bitch You will be a great man in future!
"As Mr. Clarkson would say, POWERRRRRR! "
Aged well
Damn, he makes it look too easy.
Man that car is insulated well, flat out and you can still have a civilized conversation in that car!
This is the result of turbocharged M3's that have artificial engine noise pumped in through the stereo.
flyingphoenix113 Adding more noise would make it less conversational, dumbass.
flyingphoenix113 Please tell me you're joking... pumping engine noise through the stereo!?!?
HaloToday nope. Sorry. It was first true on the new F10 M5. It doesn't even have a distinguishable intake note. It has E60 M5 V10 with some E92 M3 V8. Basically, it's a blender of BMW intake noises from the past. Plus, you can't hear the exhaust anyways.
HaloToday No its true. Google "Audi Soundaktor." Same applies for BMW and Porsche.
I loved to drift my old E30 coupe in the rain.
Just select second gear, pop the clutch at the entry to break the rear lose and choose angle and speed at will.
My recommendation for learning how to drift on the cheap: BMW E30 or E36.
They share the rear axle and most of the front axle btw. so availability and costs for spare parts are not an issue no matter how often you curb-stomp the thing.
Sturdy good sounding engines with enough power for the low weight of these old cars.
They are light in the rear and the factory suspension including sport and M variants have quite a bit of body roll, but thats actually a good thing because it helps you feel and understand the weight shifts better.
Unless it's a M3 stay away from E46, though. Too much weight and too much base understeer to make it a fun ride without throwing lots of cash at the suspension.
If the 90s flair of the old bimmers isn't for you just go V8 muscle.
Or buy a M2 if money is not an issue I guess^^.
Most fun BMW I've ever driven: Z4 M Coupe
If you like the shape and find one for cheap, just get it. These things are a riot even completely stock.
E30s are just a total gem of a car I love them
Awesome, thanks Chris, that was the most easy yet high class drifting lesson I've received so far, just excellent!
So by "racetrack", you mean....public highway
+William Pritchard They encourage it so that they can earn $$$ from the fines!
I assume wide city streets are fine as well...
Seems legitimate
i wreckd my dads m3 trying this
that must've been a joy to watch
I have an M3 and have had a few close calls trying.... but I only ever have 'fun' late at night or with zero traffic around *coughs* on a private airfield
ouch, I canned my old mans lexus sc430 trying to do this on muddy B-roads when I was 18. Lost my license for 6 months and wrote the car off but I havn't had an accident in the 4 years since. Live and learn...
Haha all you shitty driving peasants
***** Got to start somewhere man lol
I remember when I was 16 in a old 3 series.. I had some close calls and some near death experiences at over 100 because I was irresponsible at 17 still hahah but with more experience and a little track time I can now properly drive. I also thought that I earned enough experience to upgrade to an M3 which helped teach me more. Although I am nearly 24 now so this all took a while but I managed to never get in any accidents.
Except when that rotting old lady ran into while I was taking my drivers ed license exam at 15.. I think she's dead now. lmao
Anyway..
The point is, everyone is a "shitty driving peasant" at some point, don't hate, if they keep hacking at it they'll learn.
They however will always be a shitty driving peasant If they give up or are scared off due to some close call. At that point they will clog our roads with the rest of the driving imbeciles that comprise our general public.
If that happens then, join me in hating the shit out of every one of them when they inconvenience us on the road, crash into us or make us sit in 2 hour long highway traffic because it rained a little and like 5 of them flew of the damn road!!!
Hahah
I think I speak for many... We missed you Chris Harris & /Drive team. (everybody involved)
"There's no 'wax on wax off' with drifting. You learn by doing it". Han
"Important apparatus down here that I don't want to get damaged"
Perfect humor
I tried this technique in my Prius. It didn't work.
Do you have a prius
You have to do it in reverse
just get out
I have drifted a prius on a dirt road, with the e-brake lol. It had a floor pedal ebrake, so i had to stomp down twice, once to lock the back tires, and then jam down even further to unlock the dumb pedal ebrake
because it's front wheel drive
Lots of Respect for Chris Harris's Drifting skills. I tried drifting an M6 on a track and spun a dozen times before getting it right. Even when i did get it right i dont have enough track time to retain a feel for it. There is this little moment you have to react to right before the car starts to slide. If you wait until you feel the slide the car will spin.
Some pretentious teen is watching this with a plan to try Chris's tips with his FWD 4 banger on his way to walmart. To that kid i say, DONT!
And what if that "FWD 4 banger" is a Renault Megane RS 265? A car that would make any RWD car on the market with less than 400hp cry to his mommy on a track? :P
lol, well I can already say it won't work!
derbigpr500 like a lotus exige?
derbigpr500 The only way you can slide your back out in your RS 265 is to put your backwheels on McDonalds trays and go in circles. He wasn't talking about laptimes you know..
derbigpr500 Ahem! E46 M3 CSL, M235i, 135i, Cayman R, 991 c2s, lotus exige/Evora, Atom, Caterham 7 etc Good luck beating any of these :)
Should follow this up with an episode on AWD drifting. Whole different ball game. When I had an STi I nearly got myself in trouble trying to drift and not realizing the front wheels would pull the front end and cause a tank slapper, as Chris put it.
I think its nearly impossible for most AWD production cars to drift...unless modded
***** indeed more power or slow speed drifting
grannysmasher its more gymkana style needed for 4wd like rallycross , amazing skills them boys
Aftermarket LSD needed for Initial torque and braking sensitivity (lift off oversteer), Power controller for power distribution 70% rear 30% front works well, more power and a splash of handbrake FTW
Don't you have to enter the corner at high speeds to actually drift an AWD? It's pretty dangerous, but when done right, the rewards are epic.
Last video you won't need to pay for, enjoy
***** hes whining about how paying one dollar for a 15-20 min chris harris video is a massive rip off. why should we pay people for the service that they provide us???? why should we help them try to break even after enjoying years of high quality free content????
Have they mentioned that in a video?
derbigpr500
Calls somebody a retard
*buys 1500 dollar headphones*
Well if one dollar is so cheap why don't you buy the subscription and give us all the password
roywhiteo5 dat comeback hahaha
I learned how to drift as a teenager back in the 2000s from Chris's Harrises e39 M5 drift video lol. I'm back in my early 30s with an e46 M3 and an M235i and nothings changed much
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M2 is much better.
With the initiation technique in this video, a lot of people will come up to a corner, slam the throttle before even turning in, panic because they don't know what to do, then understeer into a wall or tree.
Don't try this without properly understanding your car. You need to know how your car reacts to weight transfers while cornering and how quickly it loses traction. A nice way to start with drifting, is by 'throwing' the car around. If there's a corner to the right, brake lightly, steer a little to the right, to the left and then to the right again (with the natural 'rythem' of the car, while making sure that you do not understeer). You'll upset the car's balance: the rear wants to move to the front of the car (oversteer). while steering to the right, you countersteer while giving it some gas depending on the power of your car. (Full throttle in some cars will cause an instant spin. In some underpowered cars you will need to floor it.)
You'll maintain that initial oversteer by spinning the wheels and controlling the steering angle. Coming out of the drift, you should use the method Chris is using in the video.
ty, I was wondering like, wtf not everyone can fkng drift instantly like he showed, you need to gain feeling for your car
Scandinavian flick
+1 on that and also it is important to understand the tires you have. Some tires hate to lose grip in the dry or semi wet but will get sideways easily in the wet or slick roads. Speaking from experience, if you wanna learn to drift try to do donuts in an E M P T Y parking lot around a cone or a shoe then try to counter it. Best way to learn is small then going to bigger turns like skid pads or some small industrial turns. Don’t do it in traffic.
M235i....check, LSD..... check, Public Highway.....check, wife on board..... check
I'm not sure why the m235i doesn't come standard with an lsd. Considering its a sportier model.
Kids in baby seats.....Check.
Clayton Hunter All the good stuff is left for M2
the interlaced footage gives a lovely retro feel to this one
I had a little black and rusty BMW E36 316i...I loooooved that car! It taught me how to drift on snowy back roads/ industrial areas! Later on it worked in the wet. Eventhough i destroyed 2 Wheels while "rallying" in the woods and getting to close to the sidewalk in the rain, it was still the most fun i could've ever had!
A few good songs, an empty snowy/rainy Industrial arae with alot of intersections, corners and chicanes and big wide roads and i would empty a whole tank in only one night go to McDonalds, fuel my little beemer up and go again. Damn, i miss it...
Such a pleasure to watch Chris explaining it. Awesome driver, thanks !
" and that children is how you drift " - Chris Harris , hes back !!
Love this recreation of the original Drivers Republic video, I now own an E39 M5 in part due to that.. Harris approved!
I love the sound of a turbo around the coast in Cape Town in that dense atmosphere, you hear every whistle as the turbo spools up.
The thing I love about beamers, is that I never have to think about any of that. Corvettes are a different story.
I love BMW
Feels like its been ages mate! welcome back!!!
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Chris Harris probably makes hands down, the most interesting. Kickass takes on cars.
I'm 17 and I drive an e46 m3. Unfortunately there isn't a public circuit within 50 miles of me so I tried this in the summer at my local high school. It has wide corners that make it a popular local drift spot lol. My first go I nailed the entry and was able to sustain it but during the exit I about tank slapped it, the exit is definitely the hardest part but I was able to complete the drift after about 5 tries.
Ever heard of an autocross?
Youre soo lucky , im your age and thats my dream car :(
Why was your age relevant
+Alex Silva because I'm a relatively new driver and wasn't experienced with drifting...
+Gabriel Gonzalez I initially bought a 2006 Scion tC with my own money. I have been working since I was 14 and I'm now a supervisor at the place at work. I just saved up a lot of money and had some help from my parents. I bought the tC and was able to sell it a few months later for the exact same price I bought it at. Eventually I had enough money to buy an e46 m3 coupe with 91,000 miles on it
Wrecked my Prius trying this
Everyone look at the massive grin on Chris's face at 5:27! Fantastic stuff. Now seriously, Chris, we hardcore car fans would love nothing more than a series of you providing the best racig skills u have starting from the fundamentals. Nothing better.
Chris my man I did not know how to drift now I know cos you...you are the man my brother!!!
Oh snap there’s a shitstorm coming because we’re going subscription only, quick, let’s release an unscheduled video with Chris Harris drifting! That’ll calm them down!
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nope.
Those slow-mo shots are pure poetry.
I have a question though, what could go wrong with the car in case of a botched drift, or frequent drifting? What are necessary measures to prevent a blown up clutch ?
uhhhhh you can have nothing happen to having your entire car destroyed if you botch a drift....depends what you botch up. Whatever's the weakest link on your car will blow when you fuck up and you'll know it, more likely you'll need to get good at bodywork. Don't worry about what you're going to break because if you really want to get into drifting you'll be tearing your car apart quite a bit anyway.
Watching Chris drift is liking watching a masterpiece being painted. Definitely the best video I've watch all day :)
I cant remember how many times I've watched Chris's video with his M5 !! It was such a big help for drifting any car, very basic but very helpful tips.
fukin want that steering wheel
Great video and talk through for what it is teaching. I would love to see a more advanced video with the full throttle sideways entry that is typical of the D1 competition using the scandi flick. I know their cars are fully set up for zero traction and control at the limit (not your typical BMW) using all the suspension settings and handbrake but the power-slide is a bit different. As you probably know they enter the corner sideways and maintain all the way through at crazy angles. Not typically fast but great to watch, next challenge Chris!
What I love when drifting is when the steering wheel goes limp and every minute input has a huge impact on the car
This video is ace he makes it look easy! I've just bought a 220d. The 2 series truly is an amazing car to drive. Last of the real BMWs, compact, RWD, sporty and really fun to drive.
The last great Drive video.
so... lets do a drinking game out of this: everytime he sais "throttle" you take a shot :)
good thing i watch videos like this and play video games ..helped me when i oversteered on highway ramp at 70kph in my 28 year old nissan 300zx lool
Glad to see Chris Harris back on youtube, now we just need more videos!
Love at the beginning "I lower my seat to the lowest position". At end of video Chris looks like a toddler sitting so low through the window...
Chris! Can you please tell us all the cars you own and have owned, and which were YOUR favorite?
Finally, some good entertainment on the screen again, welcome back /Drive!
Chris Harris' message Plus have fun drifting...on the public roads but test at the race track
I was doing great until I knocked over that fire hydrant. What do you do with the throttle and/or steering to stop that shaft of water shooting up in the air?
It must have an optional "M Performance LSD". Did he?
that particular M235i has an optional mechanical locking diff if i remember correctly.
@@mattilinan i can see one tire not spinning in the video tho lol
@@KaanAkkrtl Vid FPS can easily create an optical illusion. The more spokes, the more easily it happens.
Finally another episode of sublime commentary and of course visuals. Welcome back mr harris
ive missed you chris harris thank fuck your back this channel was getting boring without you
You know Chris Harris is the best when you watching drifting tutorial even you already can drift. :D
+atislav i see what you did there xD
i had great fun...till this vid stops..!!! ;)
People slate the new top gear but you know your stuff. Explain it really well. I pretty much learnt myself when I had an e46 330ci clubsport with th classic sensor fail so drive it everywhere with no driver aids at all lol. All or nothing. Awesome vid
Reupload?
it was out of sync in 1080p
Astonvanquishs Still out of sync on mine even on this video and the old one
Trihawk8 Where? We arent seeing that?
/DRIVE Yup, 1080p out of sync
/DRIVE I'm assuming the out of sync thing is the glitchy lines, then yes I still have them. And when they are inside the car facing Chris, but it doesn't really matter, most people don't watch 1080 anyway :) (I think)
I found the best learning to control drifting came from driving in the snow at 1 a.m with lots of visibility. I wont likely be transfering it to pavement because A Its too hard on tires when dry and B, I don't have a track to practice on.
(implying risk/reward is too slim)
This is the condition in which I like to drift, and for the same reasons. Not to mention that I currently drive a lifted Jeep Rubicon, so if I attempted a drift on dry pavement, I would most likely roll it.
John Galt My 2001 Cherokee is so easy to drift with an automatic. In the rain or snow. It is silly. No body roll at all. After a few 180's my ex could drift very well. In the Cherokee or the 135is in the wet.
I learned to drift in the snow in an extended cab s10. I bought a supra and found short wheelbases are hard as **** to control.
70chevelle8 Yep the longer the wheelbase the more easy a car is to drift. To a point. The S10's were big in drifting till cars hit the 500 hp range. With the right suspension set up. The S10's handled really well.
Drifting in the snow is the way to go! It's not too hard on tires plus it's safer because everything happens at much lower speeds. :)
Chris Harris makes this car look much better than it really is. Lol.
I am getting an M235i. 2014. Same exact color. This is awesome.
I got the same one excatly one week ago. How much do you love it? lol
@@johnny2156 Broooo its amazing. Got a manual, and jeeeeez that thing pulls. U have a car page? I can follow u on ig
How much was it to have BMW put that LSD in? Its a dealer option correct? Should be standard for the M package. BMW knows better
The German price cataloque says "upon request". But that alcantara wheel with the display is 1.340€ without installation.
fesch198 *1155 but that doesn´t make any difference...
Philipp Burg
Without Mehrwersteuer?
No Mehrwertsteuer is included but without instalation in your car
Philipp Burg
So 1340€ is with installation, cause that's what the pricelist says.
I tryd this on my golf gti mk7 had me dog in back, now were waiting at the busstop
Thanks Chris. Soon as i get a chance I'll pop down to my local BMW dealership. For a test drive.
Porsche Camp 4S 2012 - Instructors Video
Thank you Chris
At Porsche we teach drifting made with the brakes, creating the weight transfer with trail braking. The problem with drifting with gas is that only few cars allow you to drift above a second gear, due to power and torque. To drift with brakes allows to drift at any speed and any gear, as you know very well. We do it on slippery surfaces, like water, ice and snow since to do it on dry tarmac is extremely expensive for most of drivers. On slippery surfaces the speed is lower hence the driver understand the dynamics better and faster. I am attaching here the link of a training day for us instructors on a lake in Finland. All the best and congratulations on your great work.
Porsche Camp 4S 2012 - Instructors Video
Wouldn't this be considered more like powersliding than drifting?
This is why I bought an M135i (soon it’ll have an LSD).
The video with the e39 m5 drifting is the first time i saw Chris Harris! Aw the nostalgia xD
The last free video from Drive. The last thumbs up I'm ever gonna throw their way. I loved you Drive, but you ripped my heart right out of my chest. Back to my anti depressant medication, crappy office job, and crappy work car.
Important apparatus
At 0:49, does anyone know where the Cape Town sunset footage is from? Looks so good.
South Africa
+Nathi Nsele *ba dum tss*
most of all have fun, thank you Chris
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh... So good to have /DRIVE back and seeing Chris Harris drifting a sweet B'mer!!
That is more power sliding rather than pure drifting.
Indeed, you don't need monstrous power to drift. Just a set of not-very-sticky tires.
Most people seem to call any kind of sliding in a car drifting these days... it annoys me!
The Retro Lab Well that is what drifting is. Drifting= a controlled slide. How you initiate it doesn't matter.
If you watch till the end, he gets to transitioning from one slide to another, or "proper drifting".
Doppelkupplung No I mean lots of people see someone doing a powerslide (or even a handbrake turn like in some videos i have seen) and are like "OMG look at them drifting!" but if you look at actual drifting (competitions) there is a lot more to it, its kind of hard to explain they will initiate the drift a lot earlier and keep the slide going a lot longer than in this video, one of my friends put it quite well and said powersliding is sliding around a corner and drifting is sliding before you get to the corner.
how do i drift with a 80hp fwd car ?
Step one: add rockets to the right side of the vehicle
Step two: start driving, and initiate a right turn
Step three: light rockets
k, thanks :D i'll see on the net if can find rockets.
Put grippy tyres on the front and rubbish tyres on the back,then in mid bend lift off the throttle and you will go sideways.Then as you are about to spin pin the throttle wide open and the back will come in to line! Sounds easy? Leave plenty of space!
Thank god, you are back Chris Harris
So long that I was waiting to see your video
Like always with Chris, very easy to understand. I'm not very good in english, but I can understand... ALL. Thanks for sharing that guys.
SUrprised he didn't use a GT86, can't imagine a funnier nor easier car to drift with!
this more powerful bmw equipped with an lsd is way easier to drift and is simply better at drifting. toyota needs more power, it's essentially made to be tuned and customized.. definitely needs more power for proper drifting
No
Jason Estrada Yes
The GT86 struggles at stage 2, sustaining the drift, that lack of torque doesn't help to spin the tires at all. Most GT86 drifts are either momentum skids or handbrake ones.
MTC0316 you can't play with the power.. you can only enter the corner in 2nd gear and hope it will have enough power to sustain the drift which is fun in it's own way, it's good to start with. for anything more serious, it needs more power and it's meant to be that way. with extra 70 hp and about the same amount of torque, it wouldn't be any worse than this bmw.
i did this with my m4 and know police cant catch me they cant turn like me in speed and with the smokes help i dissappear
Very useful Chris! Big fan! What I like about ur car review is that you actually do focus on DRIVING and feeling of the cars which those what we really care about! Not just only the look and 0-60....
It's nice to have Chris Harris back!
Klasse, würde so etwas gern auch in DEUTSCH mir ansehen wollen.
Das Internet richtet sich aber nicht nach dir, also lern englisch
not. WW3 incoming
This channel still exists?
No.
Obviously it doesn't
This tutorial (remake) is just perfect. I'm gonna miss DRIVE, especially Chris Harris. I guess I gotta get a subscription when they implement it
HOLY FUCK I HAVE WAITED SO LONG FOR ANOTHER CHRIS HARRIS VIDEO
It's a powerslide not a drift
You = boring
I think you'll find out it's a 'skid'
runrabbitrunracing jgjgnvvy gj bth
same shit different name drifting and powersliding are one in the same
If youre drifting around a corner youre going too slow
If you're posting something like that around here then you're going to serious.
No, no sir. If your drifting around a corner your having fun.
If you're posting comments without correct punctuation you're destroying the English language.
Philip Burgess This is the internet, we are not writing a thesis paper here.
benjamin reynolds Wasn't aimed at you Benjamin or even intended seriously :)
Chris, your a great driver and better instructor. Thank you for your life of service for the automotive industry. You're my hero. A nice, genuinely nice fellow whom loves cars and drifting as much as I. Be blessed and slide on.
Good to have you back chris....
This is not helpful as much as the drift bible is. By keiichi tsuchiya. 2 Hours of instructional and step by step guidance from the drift king himself.
42nd comment!
***** Finally someone acknowledging my greatness :D
tip of the hat to you sir!
kongmw You, sir, are awesome!
the mechanical grip of that baby m is amazing
most of all have fun!
Chris number 1
A drift car shouldn't need anything more than a quick change in direction to initiate. If you're flooring the throttle to initiate, then you're powersliding. This video is a half-assed attempt to explain drifting. Go watch Tsuchiya's Drift Bible.
They also require ridiculous camber and steering changes etc. As for road cars.. this is perfect.
that wasn't half assed, he was using his whole ass!
a drift can be initiated in any number of ways, it depends on the course, the driver and his/her personal preferences, vehicle speed and skill. You can initiate by doing the scandavian flick (extreme weight transfer)/you can use weight transfer (the method you describe) a popular method is to race up, downshift, ebrake with clutch in, pop clutch, flick and counter-steer, work throttle to maintain and either kick clutch to gain angle/ebrake to slow down for a decreasing radius/tandem....while you're drifting you just steer, you can also just clutch kick....with anything it all takes practice and the right mindset.
If you need to be taught how to drift, you won't be a good drifter...
so how did you learn? Did you just come out of your mothers coin slot clutch kicking and transitioning? Dont think so
Jeff Birr its so simple you should be able to teach yourself
roywhiteo5 So are you competing in formula Drift this year? Im sure I saw you at the last event, right?
Jeff Birr ruclips.net/video/n6D_tMkBljY/видео.html i never said im a pro or even very good but i i taught myself how to do it
roywhiteo5 you are aware that that all the Japanese D1 drivers are going to drift and driving schools, right?
The "Drift Bible" teached me a lot, despite I wasn't bad on the mountain roads and I still like to watch drift footage because, there is always somebody better out there.
"Go to an open airfield" - yeah, but watch out for planes xD
I learned how to drift in the snow. Actually on public roads and parking lots, but where nothing could happen. Just try to not crash into a lantern.
On snowy roads you can drift with every car - but bear in mind that drifting on snowy roads is quite different from drifting on dry roads, although it easier to learn and the basics are kind of the same. Not the same (because if the surface is slippery you can also drift with a front wheel car), but almost.
About time we saw Chris Harris back on Drive!!
drifting in circles is the key moment