Derrick Colon vs Tariq Nasheed's Microphone Check trailer - debunked [part 1]
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Incredibly, Colon claims Hip-Hop Culture starts in 1975/77 and claims 'there was no hip-hop' at Kool Herc's 1973 Sedgwick Avenue party
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Looking at the article, Kool Herc states that he was listening to James Brown in Jamaica-inspired by James Brown. He said that he had to fit in????????? He could stop all of this nonsense, but he is getting a bag too!
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Early 1950s Rapping over Records DJ in Baltimore Jocko Henderson debunks this non sense. Pre Break Dancing in 1930-40s Black Movies debunks this non sense. 1940s Music Clips of the Jubalaires Gospel harmonies Rapping debunks this non sense.
Two Raggae Inspired 1970s Movies: The Harder They Come--Jimmy Cliff
Rockers. They both gives you a glimpse of Jamaican Style, Dance, Dress, Slang and Music in Jamaica...
So the question is how could you newly immigrate to America 1970-80s
( Before 1965 Blk immigration to America was to the right of the decimal point on a percentage basis)
And quickly create an Urban Style: Dress, Slang, Dances, Music: The Funk, R&B, Disco and Techno using Black American Music in America
When that style didn't exist in Jamaica or the Caribbean?
So it's obvious they got it from American Blacks.
Herc said himself he didn't know his Jamaican culture.
The point is; Herc was Jamaican. Whether or not he was Americanized, we all know Jamaica nor Puerto Rico has anything to do with Hip Hop, it was the Bronx, and the Bronx residents are Jamericans, Nuyoricans, and Bl Ams. You still can’t erase that.
@@eachoneteachone8320 Wrong! The roots of Hip Hop started in the South. Also watch this: Straight from your elders mouths!
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RUclips Video : "JAMAICA'S MUSIC PIONEERS TEACH HOW THEY COPIED US, "TOASTING" CAME FROM US (short edition)"
IM STILL SURPRISED AS A MAN FROM UK THAT WE ARE QUESTIONING WHAT BLACKS IN USA HAVE COME UP WITH WHEN ITS NEGATIVE ITS "YOU LOT " WHEN ITS GOOD AND MONEY INVOLVED ITS NOT JUST YOU IT OTHERSAMERICAN BLACKS STARTED ALMOST EVERY GENRE OF MUSIC IN USA BUT DONT OWN NONE...... THATS NOT BY ACCIDENT.
It's NOT ALMOST EVERY GENRE of MUSIC n DANCE it's EVERY GENRE☝🏾💯💯💯
The MOST IMPORTANT ERA OF HIPHOP IS THE BEGINNINGS👈🏾👉🏾THE GENEOLOGY without it HIPHOP WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE IN EXISTENCE or NAMED HIPHOP... FBA🏹✊🏾Allday..All the Way👍🏾💯💯💯
The bottom line is we can prove our culture was the main factor which none can show good on 👍
You don’t have to prove a damn thing to those bottom feeders
Yes. NYC culture.
@@fp4782Black American Culture!
Yes, "influenced by someone else." I agree. But it must be understood that the influences were Black Americans and not Jamaicans and definitely not Puerto Ricans which that latter one is laughable.
facts!
Influences and creators are two different things. When one thinks Jamaicans from the island and Puerto Ricans from the island created Hip Hop, THEN that is laughable. We laugh even harder when Outsiders think there is no such thing as Nuyoricans and Jamericans.
What I'm trying to Understand is What Makes this Colon guy an Authority on Hip Hop???
I am BX Raised, and been to Many Jams/Clubs and Still Have my Issues of the Source and Rap Pages when they were Newsletters. I Don't Recall Seeing, or Reading about Him.
Hes trying to make a name for himself so he can sell books and teach hiphop in the colleges,its all about money.
The Elements of Hip Hop were in existence in 1967, as Tariq and others have stated Hip Hop was around way before 1973.
I agree...Dr. Colon should simply state that for Puerto Ricans inroduction to HipHop is 1975...but for Black Americans, the Evolution, Foundation, Origination, Formulation, Creation of Hip Hop begins with the Great Black Migration, Harlem Renasissance and Civil Rights Movement. For Black Americans, Hip Hop is connected & attached to Black American Musical History, Tree and Culture (Blues, Jazz, Soul, Funk, R&B, House, GoGo)...It is important that we debunk these lies from culture vultures like Colon, Fat Joe & Buster Rhymes.
Who da Fvck is you to call south Bronx Ricans culture vultures? Come up here with that out of town bullshit gonna get you self rocked out here.fvcking squirrel chaser from the southern states makes me laugh😂@@Sleepy24342
I’m glad you caught the interview with him and Conzo….Conzo said hip hop stared in 1971 and that the DJs we’re looking for disco beats that’s why he edited the video
Yes. I got the edited version. All them slick cuts he was doing guaranteed to be hiding something. 😂
There needs to be a strong response to this nonsense. These Latinos look comical wearing hip hop culture , it doesn’t fit them
Grandmaster Flowers was the first city mixer to revolutionized the mobile djs movement, when social changes was happening in that particular time when the Civil Right Movement Motown both Malcolm X and Martin Luther King was assisnated and the Black Panther just getting started in California.
This is one of the many problems with hip hop...trying to establish a specific date. I asked DJ Kenny Ken, when did hip hop start. His answer, "I dont know." That was probably the best answer Ive ever heard.
H.I.P. H.O.P. IS BLACK CULTURE, PERIOD.
Colon need to stop. No Puerto Ricans or Jamaicans were not even into FBAs music like that at all.
And definitely not in FBA culture.
And we were breaking or break dancing without the mix. He needs to stop. Colon is forcing the issue that he knows nothing about. He’s a nut.
R&b /funk cuture gave birth to those dances and the jazz and blues muaic before did as well. What we see jn the late 60s early 70s is those dances being done on the street by kids. While the parties on the east coast fostered this with street jams . The west coast had things like Soul Train and Watts staxx - all black american cultural
Alright, Let's Take it to the 80s, and Look at a "Word up", or "Right On" Magazine. Check Out the Articles, Interviews, and Pictures. This Will Show and Tell that 99% of Hip Hop Culture was Dominated by Black People. That's because Hip Hop Culture is Actually Black Culture.
PERFECTLY SAID ❤
Now that foundational Blacks have built a multi-billion dollar global industry from the ground up everybody wants to jump on board, how can a child photographer of a culture outside of his own be a hip-hop pioneer? Puerto Ricans did not rock with us like that at all back then, yall were guests at our shit stop tha kap. Tell the truth bro, I'm from NY, and I'm 58.
"They had to be influenced by somebody else" AND THAT SOMEBODY WASN'T A PUERTO RICAN. The first film recording in history was of a black man dancing. Hiphop culture is another extension of native black American culture. No bitting allowed them the rules.
Aight!!! All them was watching *SOUL TRAIN* - But they don't want to give us credit
and this was out on the WEST COAST!!!👀 Got nothing to do with da' BRONX!!!
Black American Culture All Day!!!👍🏿 17:15
P.S. 9:13 Colon did interview *Dancin' Doug* but of course he deleted it!!!😂😂
WOW!!! I didn't know he deleted the dancing Doug interview, but I did notice he recently deleted the last interview with trac 2, for obvious reasons 🤣
😂😂😂He stay deleting....
@melanatedwarrior3530 He will delete if you can't support his narrative
😂 so he said he talked to Dancin Doug on the phone to hide there was a whole interview - wow.
Colon needs a psychiatrist, not even playing.
@@AKiEM. If you haven't been keeping tabs on the good doctor for the past year or so - you might not know of his modus operandi of deleting videos...
He's like a *Born Again Historian* after he deletes about 10+ videos from his channel!!! I doubt if he goes to confession every time he *DELETES* a video!!!😖
Colon wants to push HipHop's origins down to 1975 because that date is closer to when Ricans entered the picture. If we go by the date the 1970/1971 era as the point of origin that Herc himself even acknowledged, it makes the Herc story look silly and the Rican narrative even more crazy.
Simply put, HipHop is just an outgrowth of FBA musical/dance culture of the mid to late 1960s and further cemented by the FBA Disco music/culture era that started blowing up in the early 1970s.
As someone who competed in Parliamentary and Policy Debate in college, you have impeccable argumentative awareness.
Highlighting Colon's reliance on dates and how he uses them as Red Herrings was where you really displayed your genius. And it was an effective tactic! I have to say that again. It was an effective tactic. It's like preventing Kobe Bryant from getting on the court, and keeping him on the bench (Mentioned Kobe in remembrance of his marvelous skills and career. Certainly if Kobe reaches the court, somebody's losing, RIP).
Colon obviously depends on those dates, because he has talking points that coincide with them to improve his credibility. However, your tact forces his date decoys to remain inactive and ineffective. Impressive scrutiny and admirable critical thinking. And it was for the foundation. Thank you and B1! 19:34
wow thank you brother
You can tell when colon is lying …..all he does is FLIP FLOP ON WORDS …He agrees YIU can’t put a date on it then says he cann put a YEAR THO ….AS IF DATES ARE SEPARATE FROM YEARS ….you have to give the YEAR ON ANY DATE ….
Judge Judy would say to Dr Colon,what someone says on the phone to you is "Hear Say❗️"
These 1972 SoulTrain Dancer's TAKING it to the Floor with James Brown on the Break❗️. There it Is🎈👈🏿
Dude is shaking in his boots bunking a ffiggjn Trailor hahahha his points are mute
Two PUERTO RICANS TRYING TO DATE OUR CULTURE 😂!
The director of Soul train back in those days,had a half sister that was Puerto Rican 😂😂😂
@@dondiego3043 dope, must have been her idea to do the Bomba episode.
Wait, do I see people going to the floor in 1973 😮, thought that didn't happen until we saw THEM doing it first.😂 I wonder who influenced those dancers to do the moves they were performing on Soul Train......
He weren't there he weren't there? He justified his own history
COLON STAYS IN " BLACK BUSINESS 😂
PRAISE KING JESUS BRO YOU DOING A GREAT JOB GATE KEEPING OUR CULTURE I LIKE THE SAYING SOMEONE WAS INFLUENCED BY SOMEONE THEN YOU REACH TO MOTHER AFRICA THE KEY WORD IS ZULU WHEN I LOOK AT HOW THE ZULU DANCE I SAY WOW WE ARE THE FOUNDATION GOD MADE US WITH RHYTHM ITS IN OUR DNA WE ARE THE CREATORS THATS IT IF YA'LL DON'T LIKE IT TAKE IT UP WITH KING JESUS HIP HOP YOU DON'T STOP THAT BODY ROCK ❤😍🤩😘
The weird thing about this ish is NO ONE mentions New Orleans and their Jazz creation. NO ONE mentions Louie Armstrong, who is a New Orleanian, rapping in a 1940s movie over a hip hop beat. Which also means Louie was rapping way before 1940. Reggae wasn't even born yet. People really have a disdain for us Southerners. Even in this video on the Saxophone scene, It Was JAZZ. Jazz that NEW ORLEANS created.
1975? Lol 😂😂😂😂😂 . We taking it back further than even 73 lets try 67/68 Keep in mind that term b-boy also DJ fays said they were calling each other that as early as 70 or 71 because they were bronxdale boys, Bronx DEL boys, let alone look at the 5% culture every alphabet has a meaning a and b, and and brothers be saying be all the time over there because of the 5 %ers. And they use that a lot in hip-hop. So it could even mean that. But I know for sure. From d j phase's recollection it was bron still boys
My bad bro please except my apology
EVERY TIME HE GET READY TO TELL A LIE, COLON ALWAYS COUGHS....JUST NOTICE HIM IN ALL HIS VIDEOS!
Black Americans been rapping since the 1920's and Puerto Ricans was not there from the beginning helping us do anything they was in the crowd watching what we was doing.. Ricans didn't embrace hip hop until the 80's.