I don't have the Ouros, but the St Elmos does wonders for the build. The chest piece for me is Groupo as you have and the Fenris; both with obliterate. It helps to melt your enemies effectively and fast.
For sure! I'm not a Striker's fan but I can understand it's popularity of Paradise Lost which is very effective using it's talents stacks. I get bored using 1 main build. Creativity is fun. Players need to just have fun. 😎✨✨
I made a variant of this build with striker backpack/chest, Coyote mask and Groupo. i was getting 1.1 to 1.4 mil on crits versus heroic countdown enemies. it's effing insanity.
I just got my Ouroboros last night but it was late so I haven't gotten to play with it yet. I did re-roll it several times, trying to get the coveted DMG to targets out of cover roll, but settled with a trip-maxed roll with DMG to armor. For now, that'll work because I haven't leveled up the Expertise on it yet and I didn't want to blow through my resources on re-rolls just yet Long story short. I am excited to test it out. Obviously inserting it into the Striker's build but I also want to try it out with Hunter's Fury.
The problem with that, in my view, is that then content across the game becomes even easier when any build can shred as hard as this one is currently doing. A lot of players fell off from the game back in Year 1 when the endgame had virtually no challenge.
@@RogueGold Then they need to implement new difficulty options new directives, mid mission "invasions" something to use this new powerful gear on. but that's probably too much for the dev team right now with how much they have on their plate.
@@RogueGoldThey could always add a new difficulty between Heroic and Legendary or even add Legendary difficulty to more stuff, i get that they don't do that since all enemies would be replaced by White Tusks but i think S4 would be a great time to add White Tusk counterparts to every other faction
I don't have it. I definitely went out of resources because I'm constantly trying different builds. I think that's what the developers intended by giving us so many different skills and talents. I do use the striker when doing the incursion.
These are the builds that most of our incursion trainers run. Striker chest for sections where you can keep the stacks up, holster with the Groupo chest with obliterate when you can't. The only difference is that we usually run it with Firewall, so you can run the Striker shield, or Demolitionist for the extra DTOC for team members. Pair with some Sledgehammer from the Lefty, which is great for getting Striker stacks up, or even Bloody Knuckles as well for additional damage on the Lovebirds, and it's massive amounts of damage across the team. Is it overpowered? Before I got the new SMG I ran, and still run, Striker with the St Elmo's. That rips through people. Before that I ran Striker with the Bullet King. The overwhelming damage has always been there, but these last couple of seasons have definitely ramped up the scale a bit. I don't want to see it nerfed though. I don't think most people have the SMG, when I run Countdown it's mostly just one or two people in the group with it, so it's not that much of a big deal. IMO anyway.
Don't have the new SMG yet. Too many issues getting into the incursion. It's cool tho. My current R&R Shotgun/St Elmo Striker/Heartbreaker build does me good. You and Sgt Grey Breard come up with some pretty decent builds, and I enjoy the content. Thanks RG. Keep em coming!!! ✌🏾💪🏾✊🏾
🙏 Appreciate that very much! Yeah this video certainly isn't to say that other stuff isn't viable, just that this takes things to another level lol. But in the coming weeks/months matchmaking for it will be even easier as people continue to learn the mechanics, so keep trying!
If I may make a suggestion - and keep in mind that I have been a HUGE fan of Strikers since Div 1 - I don't necessarily believe it is the #1 go-to setup. I don't actually have the Ouroboros so I can't offer any anecdotal evidence to back this up, this is purely theorycrafting on my part so keep that in mind. But I would like to posit that the actual best set up (at least for soloing) is 3-piece Umbra with the Ninjabike and Strikers for the additional RoF. You won't have as much damage compared to the striker stacks, but you do still get some along with a much heftier boost to RoF thanks to Umbra as well as solid recovery in cover. Admittedly this was a bit better prior to the nerf on the PTS but I'm still curious to see how the two styles compare.
I'm fairly convinced that at a certain point the game can't accurately register/deal the appropriate damage for some of those insane RPM values, but that's also anecdotal and I could be wrong lol. Either way that would be a great option too
@@RogueGold Oh so you've noticed it as well? I've had some janky Descent runs where I've gotten such high RPM that it just seems to not properly register, like the display on my remaining ammo isn't keeping up with the volume I'm spraying. But the weirder thing is it also tends to just dramatically spike my damage in response? I dunno how to articulate it it's just... Weird. It's usually a result of combining allegro and chatterbox.
Strikers is good but Hunter's Fury is just better when using SMG's and shotguns, also i don't think it's that OP since you can't fight at longer distances with an SMG. In regards to the new exotics being so powerful, i actually agree with that but i don't think they should outperform almost all the other ones like they do now, so i'd like to see all of the worse exotics getting a buff
@@RogueGold nothing on st elmos, optimal range and accuracy notably lacking in comparison. HF with SMGs and shotties definitely stress your movement skills more than ARs.
@@RogueGoldBut it's still an SMG, even the most accurate SMGs start having problems at mid range and are basically useless at long range wich is not a huge deal in lower difficulties but in Legendary that'll only get you killed
Other than some heavy focused content like heroic countdown (which i get kicked a lot, RIP) i'm trying to find some "out of ordinary" build like firewall skill tier build so my damage is focused on status effect. Something like that keep me on my toes about building some things that might ok for open world or some dungeons (i like to call dungeons for each quest mission) or stronghold. Didn't care much about the time taken
If you're going with a High-End, personally I had greater fun with the "Dark Winter" Vector, and the Hunter's Fury gear set 👍 but certainly try it with Striker and see how you like it!
We need another Capacitor style gun that benefits from skill tiers feel so forced to use it anytime I play around with higher skill builds would love something like a shotgun maybe increase skill damage per “kill” and the 7.5% damage per skill tier too of course
@@Dingoman013getting overcharge for 15 seconds (90 sec cooldown) isn’t anything like the capacitor skill buff and you’re missing all skill tier damage which was my main point that I want also I already use the mechanical animal as my secondary to the capacitor to swap to get that overcharge sometimes
As much as I love this build, I actually prefer running the Ouroboros with Hunter's Fury, Memento Backpack, and Picaro's Holster. 6 Red Cores, 2 Blue Cores, 1 Yellow Core, and an insane amount of armor regen...just so much survivability without even having to sacrifice damage
Yeah...good for heroic but those are the kind of players i always have to revive in Legenday missions with my 2M armor 103k regen tank...in one occasion i ended with 113 revives in Legendary Tidal...all 3 guys with just dps🤷🏻♂️
@@noway2728 dude i have run Legendary with thousands if dps guys and always i have to revive them no matter how good they are...a full team of just dps players hardly manage to complete a legendary zoo or tidal...it takes just one explosive drone or one grenade or sniper hit and to the floor they go...and the stupied thing is that none of them ever used the reviver hive🤷🏻♂️
Hi Rogue, haven’t responded in a while but have watch all videos and gave them all a “👍”. Don’t have the Orosbouros yet but I’m not in a rush…. My clan is running folk through daily so it’s just a matter of time. Do you think this build is better with the Oros or Elmo’s? I’m running this build with Elmo’s when I run the incursion… also, will this build be as good if I sub a Tactical Vector or say the Dak Winter?
I appreciate it man, thank you! The main sticking point with Ouroboros is the RPM. And since it's an SMG, you can build high crit very easily despite losing out on rolls from using Gear Set pieces. The Elmo's is extremely good, but up close this just kills that much faster. Other SMG's have lower RPM/Crit values so will suffer there a bit
I'm not concerned with difficulty as much as I'm concerned with balance and overall usability. Gear needs a rework specifically named items, talents, and exotics. It is my opinion that many items in the game are filler items. These filler items were not well thought out. The rampant giving of free powerful status effects to non status effect builds or skill builds is also a problem. The tons of free damage that is causing everyone to stack blue core and armor regen is getting out of hand.
Grupo + China Light + ninja bike bp? 15% CHD + 15% Explosive dmg + 15% Explosive dmg? pair it up with true patriot? just an idea. tell me what you think, rg.
why is nobody trying to run Hunters Fury with this thing? Survival should be a lot higher than with Strikers and it brings more utility if you take the disorient into account, right?
The only thing that annoys me with the gun, is when you are in pvp the gun shoots you and you are downed before it is registered on my end. So it looks like the other person is cheating but it's just the game can't keep up.
Rogue- may I ask if you play on PS 5 ? If you do I would like to ask you if you help me get throught the incursion to try to get this weapon. If possible. Thanks . Love the Vedios.
Yeah but unless you want the White Tusks to be the only faction out there, they should make counterparts for all the other 5 factions, i think S4 would be a great time for that, also adding a difficulty between Heroic and Legendary could do the trick
@@aaronkeener95right, I’m a 446. I have 47 clears now. Fastest time 11:59 seconds. Max rolls on everything. 2 ouroboros to myself. Have gotten 4 total.
I personally don't think it's overpowered. If you take into account a lot of the enemies in Heroic and Legendary can hit you with one shot and take all your armor away with an all red build. So for that type of content think it kind of even things up. But I don't think it would be that fun to use on anything less than that.
Doubt I’ll ever get the Ouroboros unless someone drags my useless ass through the incursion…hopefully I can get this and the other raid exotics one day
@@RogueGold matchmaking actually got worse . The ones who put the work in and did their homework already got what they wanted and left , now you have to deal with the blue core / skill build folks who refuse to choose the easy way .
As some who mained a DW for over a year for all my solo stuff - the oro is better in almost every way. Just reload speed alone is a savage difference. Miss being able have the Scorpio as my secondary, though.
Regarding the power creep, and game dificulty, I've been saying for a VERY long time that this is not actually good for the game, but most peoples "pLaYs ViDeOgAmEs FoR fEeLs PoWeRfUlLs", so at this point, "who cares" anymore? I'll say let the game become even easier, and let people have their fun. A quick note about Striker's + Obliterate, I haven't test it recently, but about 4 or 5 months ago the combo was actually giving 150% extra damage, because the "Total Weapon Damage" from Striker's was multiplying with the Total Weapon Damage from Obliterate, instead of adding. I believe it's still the case...
I think the most important part of offering some variety- and for a long time the Open World structure offered that where people could lower the difficulty to make themselves feel more powerful if they so chose to. But now it seems like even Heroic is too easy, although I don't want to definitively state that as everyone's skill level differs.
@@RogueGold I agree 100%. Doing a balance of all the Gear, Weapons and Talents to ofter more variety it's possible, but not very likely. And "asking/expecting" for people to play at lower dificulties to feel powerfull, yeah, I think you have to much faith in humans... I tried talking about it, multiple times, and it would ALWAYS go something like this: "2 or 3" people would agree; most people would call me an elitist or gate keeper; a good ammount of people would just ignore. People want to get everything, and they want it easy and fast. TD2 is now known for being a VERY casual friendly game, where any new player can join, and in a very quick time, be playing (and destroying) the hardest PvE content in the game, and that's what (in my opinion) been bringing so many new players, and a re engagement to the game by Ubi. At this point, the only thing I hope is that TD3 doesn't take 3 years to release, and with a clean start, they can make the game with clear Dificulty steps from the beggining, and commit to that. So, a rework of some stuff (even a nerf to Striker's), I think, and hope it can happen, but anything besides that, not on TD2. P.S. Expertise was a REALLY stupid decision, and should NOT exist in any future Division game.
Playing this weapon and kind of builds it's very situational in high end scaled content. For running solo I could just use as any weapon and still shreds everything in a decent build. The thing it's when you see this kind of weapons and builds getting in actual scaled content for 4 and noobs getting insta dropped left and right by reds😂. It's a hilarious seeing them confused about why their "top" RUclips build doesn't work ending in rage quiting in heroic missions....not mentioning legendaries,etc.🤣.
Nothing is OP! If you think the game is too easy for you, try to carry people through a legendary, raid or an incursion and then come talk to me. Every time you feel like the game is too easy, join a random group and if they’re not very experienced, I doubt anything you’re using would feel OP.
That's why I suggested in the video that this specific setup isn't as problematic, rather I think it's indicative that the endgame needs to offer a wider variety of challenges so that players of all skill levels have engaging content to play
When are y’all gonna make Somethin other than striker lmao there’s more builds other than striker sheeesh this is why when you inspect any player on any game mode there running the same build Smh.
@@RogueGold All Ppl See Is Striker There Not Gonna Pay Attention To Anything Else Is More Of The Point But Nah I Get It All We Can Do Is Hope For Some Diversity Lol.
![Eminem - Fuel (feat. JID) [Official Lyric Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/t5H_CewqpKA/mqdefault.jpg)
The title of the video should be “The SMG to end all builds” because you can use that gun on literally any build and its going to shred.
Litterally any DPS build*. Using that with a marksman build is not a great idea
@@Ananonymousguy-nk9ojnah you can run 6 blue cores and still shred with any vector people are just now starting to realize it's an actual good gun
Your best..feeling build
@@Ananonymousguy-nk9oj why not? Your going to still get 6 red cores on any marksman rifle build.
@@djsmith6247 not gonna be getting max dps is what he means red cores don't really do much plus it's more aimed towards hsd
For open world and general missions - I like using the devils due back back with a GS obliterate chest . St Elmo’s and the tactical 9mm vector .
Sounds fun!
I don't have the Ouros, but the St Elmos does wonders for the build. The chest piece for me is Groupo as you have and the Fenris; both with obliterate. It helps to melt your enemies effectively and fast.
That’s what I run and 0 problems melting everyone!
I can’t use anything but the Elmo it’s just better then every other gun lol damage, accuracy, hit crit, 70 mag
Used it last night & it melted everything i aimed at , wish i had the ouros but the st elmo's engine is a MUST have
this is abnormal ((( only disappointed (((
@@JustTryingToRUclipsSt.Elmos it's basically OP.🥴🤣
Such a great video, detail and i love when you display the build on the left side while you display the gameplay on the build that you using 👏👏👏👏👏
Glad to hear the feedback! Thank you!!
For sure! I'm not a Striker's fan but I can understand it's popularity of Paradise Lost which is very effective using it's talents stacks. I get bored using 1 main build. Creativity is fun. Players need to just have fun. 😎✨✨
I made a variant of this build with striker backpack/chest, Coyote mask and Groupo. i was getting 1.1 to 1.4 mil on crits versus heroic countdown enemies. it's effing insanity.
Nice!!
I honestly think they should buff the EB so it can compete w the Elmo’s .
That would be a dream 😭
@@RogueGold it doesn’t make sense the EB is one of the hardest guns to get…why not make it a God Tier weapon in the DZ?
I just got my Ouroboros last night but it was late so I haven't gotten to play with it yet. I did re-roll it several times, trying to get the coveted DMG to targets out of cover roll, but settled with a trip-maxed roll with DMG to armor. For now, that'll work because I haven't leveled up the Expertise on it yet and I didn't want to blow through my resources on re-rolls just yet
Long story short. I am excited to test it out. Obviously inserting it into the Striker's build but I also want to try it out with Hunter's Fury.
DTA is a great option too! And yeah for the most part it will work excellently with any build you slot it into. Enjoy your testing! 🙌
Having a lot of fun seeing what other gear I can pair with the smg
It's incredibly good & fun with tons of setups!
I've been using 4pc umbra with 3pc (using exotic backpack) in PVP for a while now. It shreds 60 CHC / 249 CHD at full stacks.
Game-crashing RPM right there 😂
@@RogueGold Yup, more damage though with lady death though, and it makes up for it having a shorter mag size too.
instead of nerfs they need to rework older gear to bring it to the level of the new stuff.
The problem with that, in my view, is that then content across the game becomes even easier when any build can shred as hard as this one is currently doing. A lot of players fell off from the game back in Year 1 when the endgame had virtually no challenge.
@@RogueGold Then they need to implement new difficulty options new directives, mid mission "invasions" something to use this new powerful gear on. but that's probably too much for the dev team right now with how much they have on their plate.
@@RogueGoldThey could always add a new difficulty between Heroic and Legendary or even add Legendary difficulty to more stuff, i get that they don't do that since all enemies would be replaced by White Tusks but i think S4 would be a great time to add White Tusk counterparts to every other faction
I don't have it. I definitely went out of resources because I'm constantly trying different builds. I think that's what the developers intended by giving us so many different skills and talents. I do use the striker when doing the incursion.
These are the builds that most of our incursion trainers run. Striker chest for sections where you can keep the stacks up, holster with the Groupo chest with obliterate when you can't. The only difference is that we usually run it with Firewall, so you can run the Striker shield, or Demolitionist for the extra DTOC for team members. Pair with some Sledgehammer from the Lefty, which is great for getting Striker stacks up, or even Bloody Knuckles as well for additional damage on the Lovebirds, and it's massive amounts of damage across the team.
Is it overpowered? Before I got the new SMG I ran, and still run, Striker with the St Elmo's. That rips through people. Before that I ran Striker with the Bullet King. The overwhelming damage has always been there, but these last couple of seasons have definitely ramped up the scale a bit. I don't want to see it nerfed though. I don't think most people have the SMG, when I run Countdown it's mostly just one or two people in the group with it, so it's not that much of a big deal. IMO anyway.
Just got 2 of them tonight after being invited In to the final 2 bosses one dropped at the end and then another in the cache. Was crazy
Nice!!
Don't have the new SMG yet. Too many issues getting into the incursion. It's cool tho. My current R&R Shotgun/St Elmo Striker/Heartbreaker build does me good. You and Sgt Grey Breard come up with some pretty decent builds, and I enjoy the content. Thanks RG. Keep em coming!!! ✌🏾💪🏾✊🏾
🙏 Appreciate that very much! Yeah this video certainly isn't to say that other stuff isn't viable, just that this takes things to another level lol. But in the coming weeks/months matchmaking for it will be even easier as people continue to learn the mechanics, so keep trying!
U on Xbox
Naw Ps4......
Both builds Rock brother 👍😎
Thank you! 👊👊
If I may make a suggestion - and keep in mind that I have been a HUGE fan of Strikers since Div 1 - I don't necessarily believe it is the #1 go-to setup. I don't actually have the Ouroboros so I can't offer any anecdotal evidence to back this up, this is purely theorycrafting on my part so keep that in mind.
But I would like to posit that the actual best set up (at least for soloing) is 3-piece Umbra with the Ninjabike and Strikers for the additional RoF.
You won't have as much damage compared to the striker stacks, but you do still get some along with a much heftier boost to RoF thanks to Umbra as well as solid recovery in cover.
Admittedly this was a bit better prior to the nerf on the PTS but I'm still curious to see how the two styles compare.
I'm fairly convinced that at a certain point the game can't accurately register/deal the appropriate damage for some of those insane RPM values, but that's also anecdotal and I could be wrong lol. Either way that would be a great option too
@@RogueGold Oh so you've noticed it as well?
I've had some janky Descent runs where I've gotten such high RPM that it just seems to not properly register, like the display on my remaining ammo isn't keeping up with the volume I'm spraying.
But the weirder thing is it also tends to just dramatically spike my damage in response? I dunno how to articulate it it's just... Weird.
It's usually a result of combining allegro and chatterbox.
Strikers is good but Hunter's Fury is just better when using SMG's and shotguns, also i don't think it's that OP since you can't fight at longer distances with an SMG. In regards to the new exotics being so powerful, i actually agree with that but i don't think they should outperform almost all the other ones like they do now, so i'd like to see all of the worse exotics getting a buff
Agree WRT exotics balance. Disagree with HF > Srikers.
Hunters Fury is only good for solo or 2 player. 4man? Way worse than strikers.
@Ananonymousguy-nk90j The Ouroboros has some crazy range, more than most SMG's 😄
@@RogueGold nothing on st elmos, optimal range and accuracy notably lacking in comparison.
HF with SMGs and shotties definitely stress your movement skills more than ARs.
@@RogueGoldBut it's still an SMG, even the most accurate SMGs start having problems at mid range and are basically useless at long range wich is not a huge deal in lower difficulties but in Legendary that'll only get you killed
Ouroboros is always gonna go on a striker i havent seen any video of someone uses ouroboros and say its awesome
I was using this build with the st. Elmo. I had the oro but never used it. Decided to try it out the other day. Probably won't go back to the elmo lol
😂 It's too good!
for countdown I like adding protection elite
Jesuschrist, that gun makes like a continued sound LOL
Well, we’re all those enemies are coming firm how the ground maybe they’re having a lunch break🍔😅
Still haven't passed Paradise lost yet. And only get on with random people who quit after not passing Wright boss
Other than some heavy focused content like heroic countdown (which i get kicked a lot, RIP) i'm trying to find some "out of ordinary" build like firewall skill tier build so my damage is focused on status effect. Something like that keep me on my toes about building some things that might ok for open world or some dungeons (i like to call dungeons for each quest mission) or stronghold. Didn't care much about the time taken
Doing more experimental builds like that can be super rewarding!
Unrelated question: what's your monitor refresh rate and what are you fps?
144hz monitor 60FPS (no FPS options on console)
@@RogueGold Do you use gyro controls? If not that's super impressive.
I’m 40 seconds in and you had me at “brrrrrr”
😂
Could I get away with the named Vector SMG if I don’t have the Ouro Bouros yet?
If you're going with a High-End, personally I had greater fun with the "Dark Winter" Vector, and the Hunter's Fury gear set 👍 but certainly try it with Striker and see how you like it!
We need another Capacitor style gun that benefits from skill tiers feel so forced to use it anytime I play around with higher skill builds would love something like a shotgun maybe increase skill damage per “kill” and the 7.5% damage per skill tier too of course
You're basically just describing future perfect
@@Dingoman013getting overcharge for 15 seconds (90 sec cooldown) isn’t anything like the capacitor skill buff and you’re missing all skill tier damage which was my main point that I want also I already use the mechanical animal as my secondary to the capacitor to swap to get that overcharge sometimes
I’m still fairly new, no Incursions happening soon, is St. Elmo’s viable for these builds instead?
Absolutely!
As much as I love this build, I actually prefer running the Ouroboros with Hunter's Fury, Memento Backpack, and Picaro's Holster. 6 Red Cores, 2 Blue Cores, 1 Yellow Core, and an insane amount of armor regen...just so much survivability without even having to sacrifice damage
Better for quick kills and CQB, I agree. Bad when spread out or ultra tanky.
Yeah...good for heroic but those are the kind of players i always have to revive in Legenday missions with my 2M armor 103k regen tank...in one occasion i ended with 113 revives in Legendary Tidal...all 3 guys with just dps🤷🏻♂️
Haha well Legendary is its own beast, I wouldn't take a Heroic build directly in there have to make some modifications
@@RogueGold thats right.
Just because they run DPS doesn't mean they know how to use it 🤣🤣🤣.
@@noway2728 dude i have run Legendary with thousands if dps guys and always i have to revive them no matter how good they are...a full team of just dps players hardly manage to complete a legendary zoo or tidal...it takes just one explosive drone or one grenade or sniper hit and to the floor they go...and the stupied thing is that none of them ever used the reviver hive🤷🏻♂️
@@yanero0215 I never have problems , but we also don't use a tank . 2 DPS , 1 skill , 1 healer . Tanks are useless in my opinion .
How do you get your damage numbers off to the right like that? Is that a PC only thing?
Nope! I'm on Xbox. Just go to: Settings > UI > Scrolling Combat Text > Floating 👍
@@RogueGold Excellent! Thank you.
I still need to find a good team to run the incursion to get it on pc.
We have LFG channels in our Discord server, you might find some people there! Join link in video description
Try the Devils backpack...in the Strikerset..
Love the content and hopefully one day I be able to get my hands on the gun
Thank you!! Sending you good RNG wishes 🤞🤞
Godly 💪🏾🔥💯
👊👊
I got to get that SMG I see so many builds with it
It's hard to beat!
Hi Rogue, haven’t responded in a while but have watch all videos and gave them all a “👍”.
Don’t have the Orosbouros yet but I’m not in a rush…. My clan is running folk through daily so it’s just a matter of time.
Do you think this build is better with the Oros or Elmo’s? I’m running this build with Elmo’s when I run the incursion… also, will this build be as good if I sub a Tactical Vector or say the Dak Winter?
I appreciate it man, thank you!
The main sticking point with Ouroboros is the RPM. And since it's an SMG, you can build high crit very easily despite losing out on rolls from using Gear Set pieces. The Elmo's is extremely good, but up close this just kills that much faster. Other SMG's have lower RPM/Crit values so will suffer there a bit
I'm not concerned with difficulty as much as I'm concerned with balance and overall usability. Gear needs a rework specifically named items, talents, and exotics. It is my opinion that many items in the game are filler items. These filler items were not well thought out. The rampant giving of free powerful status effects to non status effect builds or skill builds is also a problem. The tons of free damage that is causing everyone to stack blue core and armor regen is getting out of hand.
Definitely. Although at least for me personally, preserving a challenging side of the endgame for those who choose to seek it out is also important.
@@RogueGold I agree, the upper end of PVE should be challenging for those who like challenging PVE.
Where do we find the ouroboros?
From the Paradise Lost Incursion, here's a guide: ruclips.net/video/AaOE_Ilw4MQ/видео.htmlsi=fhzPGdli07CSi_An
All red strikers ouroboros, It doesn’t need to be in every gamemode. -That’s my thought
It's hard to beat, that's why it's so prevalent 😄
Don't use it .
There are terrible instances when I am shooting an enemy and my hit are not counting/registering I swear it’s a console problem.
More likely a game server issue
Is this viable for solo legendary stronghold?
I don't do solo Legendary so I'm no expert, but this will at least compete in damage yes
Grupo + China Light + ninja bike bp? 15% CHD + 15% Explosive dmg + 15% Explosive dmg? pair it up with true patriot? just an idea. tell me what you think, rg.
Does explosive damage have an effect on the TP explosion? I've never tested it
@@RogueGold not sure have tried it. 🤔
why is nobody trying to run Hunters Fury with this thing? Survival should be a lot higher than with Strikers and it brings more utility if you take the disorient into account, right?
HF's is super good and a great alternative- but if you're going for pure damage it doesn't beat Striker.
The only thing that annoys me with the gun, is when you are in pvp the gun shoots you and you are downed before it is registered on my end. So it looks like the other person is cheating but it's just the game can't keep up.
Run what you want to run people.
actually Striker & Obliterate is a 2.5 Multiplier not 2.25
Can anyone tell me what pulse is he using?
Banshee Pulse 👍
Rogue- may I ask if you play on PS 5 ? If you do I would like to ask you if you help me get throught the incursion to try to get this weapon. If possible. Thanks . Love the Vedios.
Hey there! I only play on Xbox, unfortunately. I highly reccomend you check out GCRock or DJTickle, they both host excellent carrying communities 👍
Awsome thank you Will check them out
Is it good for pvp ?
The gun itself, absolutely, but for PVP I'd tweak the build
Well have the devs make a legendary open world?? That should take care of that instead of nerfing everything or whatever..
Yeah but unless you want the White Tusks to be the only faction out there, they should make counterparts for all the other 5 factions, i think S4 would be a great time for that, also adding a difficulty between Heroic and Legendary could do the trick
Hmmmmmm ... looks familiar -_-
I run henri and stiker holster instead for pvp btw. Also use a famas instead of a shotgun. 😉 ggs dude
I tried your setup in there! I think I've determined though that Striker just isn't for me in PVP 😄
@@RogueGold the backpack is everything, it's the only thing that makes it strong 💪🏻
So would you assist a SHD 643 playing in getting through the excursion?
My shd watch is lower and I can help you get through the incursion 😂😂
Level doesn’t matter. The build does. Even a sh;+ striker build does the job.
@@aaronkeener95right, I’m a 446. I have 47 clears now. Fastest time 11:59 seconds. Max rolls on everything. 2 ouroboros to myself. Have gotten 4 total.
I personally don't think it's overpowered. If you take into account a lot of the enemies in Heroic and Legendary can hit you with one shot and take all your armor away with an all red build. So for that type of content think it kind of even things up. But I don't think it would be that fun to use on anything less than that.
Why I use picaro and Ninja bag on every pve build nothing beats them together
I'm just waiting for golden bullet xD
Error: overloading game servers 😂
@@RogueGold 🤫🤫
build with Ouroboros?? T_T I do not have it yet !!!!
Keep the hope alive! You'll get it 👊
Doubt I’ll ever get the Ouroboros unless someone drags my useless ass through the incursion…hopefully I can get this and the other raid exotics one day
Matchmaking for it will become easier in the coming weeks/months, I've already had successful matchmade runs!
@@RogueGoldThat's good to hear, the teammates i've been having so far have been mostly useless
@@RogueGold matchmaking actually got worse . The ones who put the work in and did their homework already got what they wanted and left , now you have to deal with the blue core / skill build folks who refuse to choose the easy way .
I've run this incursion 30 fucking times have yet to get it.
That's a truly bad luck
try running it with players who've already gotten theirs. that way, when they get another one, they can give it to you
You can do the same with Dark winter.
As some who mained a DW for over a year for all my solo stuff - the oro is better in almost every way. Just reload speed alone is a savage difference.
Miss being able have the Scorpio as my secondary, though.
@boudroux1 You can achieve some great things with the DW, but not to the levels of the Ouroboros from what's on paper, and my own testing.
Regarding the power creep, and game dificulty, I've been saying for a VERY long time that this is not actually good for the game, but most peoples "pLaYs ViDeOgAmEs FoR fEeLs PoWeRfUlLs", so at this point, "who cares" anymore?
I'll say let the game become even easier, and let people have their fun.
A quick note about Striker's + Obliterate, I haven't test it recently, but about 4 or 5 months ago the combo was actually giving 150% extra damage, because the "Total Weapon Damage" from Striker's was multiplying with the Total Weapon Damage from Obliterate, instead of adding.
I believe it's still the case...
I think the most important part of offering some variety- and for a long time the Open World structure offered that where people could lower the difficulty to make themselves feel more powerful if they so chose to. But now it seems like even Heroic is too easy, although I don't want to definitively state that as everyone's skill level differs.
@@RogueGold I agree 100%.
Doing a balance of all the Gear, Weapons and Talents to ofter more variety it's possible, but not very likely.
And "asking/expecting" for people to play at lower dificulties to feel powerfull, yeah, I think you have to much faith in humans...
I tried talking about it, multiple times, and it would ALWAYS go something like this: "2 or 3" people would agree; most people would call me an elitist or gate keeper; a good ammount of people would just ignore.
People want to get everything, and they want it easy and fast.
TD2 is now known for being a VERY casual friendly game, where any new player can join, and in a very quick time, be playing (and destroying) the hardest PvE content in the game, and that's what (in my opinion) been bringing so many new players, and a re engagement to the game by Ubi.
At this point, the only thing I hope is that TD3 doesn't take 3 years to release, and with a clean start, they can make the game with clear Dificulty steps from the beggining, and commit to that.
So, a rework of some stuff (even a nerf to Striker's), I think, and hope it can happen, but anything besides that, not on TD2.
P.S. Expertise was a REALLY stupid decision, and should NOT exist in any future Division game.
Then just increase the difficulty
@@Ananonymousguy-nk9oj that would go "amazing" with the players...
so we just spawn camping them now
This smg is just not okay.
Again, gteat vid, awesome explination
Thank you!!
I feel like it does need a nerf in pvp it's broken
Enjoy the Ouroboros while you can before it gets nerfed.
It should have been "....for Ouroboros owners"
You didn’t even show us the build…😂
2:00 ?
I mean its just a typical striker build??
I forgot this game was even a thing
Playing this weapon and kind of builds it's very situational in high end scaled content. For running solo I could just use as any weapon and still shreds everything in a decent build. The thing it's when you see this kind of weapons and builds getting in actual scaled content for 4 and noobs getting insta dropped left and right by reds😂. It's a hilarious seeing them confused about why their "top" RUclips build doesn't work ending in rage quiting in heroic missions....not mentioning legendaries,etc.🤣.
useless to me i cant even comete the incursion to get that smg
Matchmaking will continue to become easier in the coming weeks/months as more people learn the mechanics!
If they nerf any of this because of your video I'll be super annoyed......I run glass Canon and vigilance
yolo player so RIP
Yeah cos nobody has all red striker build by now
Let me guess strikers again 🙄
Nothing is OP! If you think the game is too easy for you, try to carry people through a legendary, raid or an incursion and then come talk to me. Every time you feel like the game is too easy, join a random group and if they’re not very experienced, I doubt anything you’re using would feel OP.
That's why I suggested in the video that this specific setup isn't as problematic, rather I think it's indicative that the endgame needs to offer a wider variety of challenges so that players of all skill levels have engaging content to play
First
When are y’all gonna make Somethin other than striker lmao there’s more builds other than striker sheeesh this is why when you inspect any player on any game mode there running the same build Smh.
If you listen to the video, I point out that the reason I'm making it is to commentate and critique the over-usage of this setup :)
@@RogueGold All Ppl See Is Striker There Not Gonna Pay Attention To Anything Else Is More Of The Point But Nah I Get It All We Can Do Is Hope For Some Diversity Lol.
Another striker build.. lame
Yeah tell to ubisoft expertize is a stupid thing and if they can to get ouț from this game.
Useless build.for.most as this weapon is so rare and hard to find
Besides the oroboros, what is rare? Striker? Run once through Countdown on Challenging and you will have 8 of everything.
Not really useless, you can just use a Chameleon or a Dark Winter and it'll work just fine
meh
mid build
No such build
🤡💩