All the stereotypes that the writers and creators are complaining about, they’re putting into the show. Then getting angry when us normal fans don’t care for it.
Nobody is getting angry at anything. Stop making up lies that the writers or creators hate fans or criticism. Find me anyone on the Acolyte that "complains".
This episode is boring. And infuriating to watch. With the cutting away from the action to get boring dialogue… then we get the stupidity of characters…. How does a fucking Sith Lord who killed Jedi get taken away by bugs?
I think the biggest change that needs to be made to Star Wars shows, other than actually having a well thought out storyline, is making movies instead of TV Shows. Of course that depends on what the individual story needs
@Ewokpilot65 They said for Obiwan, they didn't want to make it movie quality. Imo, these TV shows need to feel like one long movie in terms of quality. 180 million for this show, and it feels like it was made by CW at some points.
That's my thoughts on Kenobi. The last episode or two was really awesome I thought, but it wasn't good enough to justify the rest of the garage that was the rest of the season. I still much prefer that the series didn't happen to begin with but that's a different discussion I guess.
This show amazes me by trying to produce mystery, but it ain’t mystery if you know something is coming. we know Qimir is the sith, we know there is more to the fire at the coven, and we know one of the witch mothers is going to turn up at the end with some “i am your mother” line
The best part about it is that they wrote themselves so deep into a corner with that foreshadowing that if it turns out to be anyone else, it'll make zero narrative sense.
Yeah andor was the best of disney. Better than the mandalorian for sure. And just as good as the original trilogy. S2 is gonna be epic. Hopefully👏andor is our only hope. so im gonna give andor a chance. But if s2 ends up being bad. Then STAR wars is truly dead. nothing we do can save it.
I’m very disappointed that they’re only making two seasons of _Andor…_ three would’ve been a nice little “trilogy,” you know? and I think the prison arc from Season 1 was interesting enough that it could’ve been expanded to a whole season 👍 but also, _Skeleton Crew_ was created by the _Spider-man: Home Trilogy_ guy, so it could still be good 🤷🏻♂️
@@sarah42e We cant really judge it that way cause the hollywood stuff is mostly overly "inflated" and the japanese stuff is overly "deflated". Basically lets just say that the american movies/tv series are much mor expensive than the norm and the japanese movies/tv series are much cheaper than the norm and that doesnt affect quality of the product but mostly the pay of the actors/directors/writers etc...
@@bluemoondm8629 even if you want to argue that it is the norm IT doesnt change the fact that 1. American movie/tv series budget are unecessarily inflated and 2. Japanese movies/TV series "deflated... Most of the difference Is in the pay of the staff as i said... Godzilla -1 had a budget of about 15million USD which Is seriously low... If IT was made in the US it would have has maybe SLIGHTLY better vissuals but the budget would sudenly be 100-200 millions USD.
I remember Andor having a slow start too. The first 3 episodes were widely critiqued for their slow pacing. Andor did ramp up and delivered at the end though, something that feels like the opposite of most of the shows which start strong then go downhill steadily. Honestly whatever confrontation the sith-coded guy has with the Jedi, I don't think it will save the show from the bad writing problem. Obi Wan and Ahsoka had some pretty great lightsaber duels and both shows still suffered from bad writing. The dopamine hit from a cool fight scene wears off really quick because action scenes these days are a dime a dozen. Good acting and writing is the stuff that's a lot harder to come by. That's why in Andor, the monologues from characters like Andy Serkis and Stellan Skarsgard are so memorable and iconic.
This is the best analysis of the show yet. Episode 3 slammed the breaks on a show that was going at a pretty good pace. Ep 1&2 were really interesting and I liked the characters. Having the 3rd ep be an entire flashback episode threw things out of wack. I'm on the fence about the show, but if episode 5 nails the landing I think the show can be really good.
@@dane8947ohh yeah, here they are .. the “why you keep watching 🥸☝🏻” .. maybe because that’s the only way we can know if this show is entirely trash ? How can anyone criticize a product without seeing it first? Genius
@@doggonoburritos4327 clone wars was what got me into Star Wars. I grew up with it. This has been my profile pic for six years and I own this clone’s helmet. I think the sequels are fine though and that Disney has made more good than bad Star Wars
I hope they add flashbacks that add more and more context to what really happend in the past. I don't buy it, that a master Jedi drinks poison because some 8 year old accidentally killed her witch family.
It will be the Wookie. We know this because: - We know the Wookie died off-screen and faked his death. - There were numerous reshoots, so not every scene will correlate with the next. - Disney lightsabers can't really hurt people. They just burn a little. - They didn't use a steel knife on him. - Their budget of 180 million was used for the vacations, so they couldn't afford to get a "Wookie Sith Costume" at the last minute of shooting. - The writers don't know Wookies, so they will be retconned and made into shapeshifters or use the Force to alter their shapes. The Wookie is the Sith. Has to be.
I don’t know the Ep 5. needs to be game changing. This is a 6 hour story broken into 8 episodes. You wouldn’t go to a movie and expect the the heroes to defeat the adversary in the first 30 minutes of the movie? This is a mystery, we shouldn’t expect to get to the resolution until Ep 8 or possible Ep 7. This isn’t episodic TV. It’s not a collection of 8 short stories told to complete a season. It’s a single story that’s being broken at convenient break points to package it up. This show would have been best done if all episodes dropped at once. That’s Disney’s biggest failure here. We are also used to Star Wars being an action/adventure story. Andor did this to some point. I remember it getting some hate around that as well, but once the show was done, it became a more respected story.
@@dane8947 I dunno, the last 2 episodes were really boring and I'm not talking a RotS type sequence, the Hallway scene in Daredevil is very different. It actually builds tension.
That would require writers/directors who actually know how to craft a good story. Unfortunately, these seem to be in short supply at Disney as a whole lately. Or there is too much interference going on to craft a good story.
I think it might be both. I know there are some talented writers at Disney. But it often feels like the shows that Disney produces fall short of some of these writers more niche projects. And then I'm sure that some story group/executive did some meddling. I think they stretched out the show and cut it up to a degree that was not intended. I suspect that the same thing happened to the Kenobi show to a slightly greater success.
Why do streaming services have episodes of varying lengths. Sometimes it goes from being locked in and wanting more to wondering if I waited a week just to see someone fumble the bag by rushing something
If I ever rewatch the series (which I may do for a star wars marathon), I'll likely just skip episode 3 because it contributed very little to the overall storyline
Im interested to see this fight. otherwise im kind of just bord with it. i htink it will get good or better but idk, im just kind of here waching it ig. idk. but i am interested in what is going ot hapen next i think its gona get alot beter.
We may finally get a glimpse at what's at stake ? I mean, after all the drama, all the mediocre plot, the terrible directing, the strange timeline and the uninterrupted unexplained stroll through the galaxy, episode 5 may finally introduce us to the Sith, to what he threatens, to what his plan is, to why Mae stuck with him all this time... Or it may not. This show is stupid.
Honestly I don't really care about the show, don't hate it, don't love it, but episode 5 could be the best Star Wars thing ever, people on internet have decided they would hate it and they will (and brag about hating it everywhere they can, before saying people are paid by Disney for not being a brainless hater)
I get the feeling they make these the wrong way, It always feels like they given 8 episodes and a set budget and they then have to make it "work" - I do not envy the directors. They should be allowed free reign to do whatever they want ( with some help and supervision) but not hampered by set runtime
painfully obvious they didnt have a story to tell. Not only running times are short as hell but the pacing is atrocious through most of the series. Events that happen in episode 4 can be written down in 1-2 short sentences.
Either it'll be a good episode, or sadly, they'll keep dragging the "story" till episode 6 or 7. I just hope it's not the latter, and it picks up pace, spices up the plot, and gives some life to these characters. Very likely, they'll drag till 6 or 7. The classic Disney+ strategy for most IP shows. I hope they prove us wrong tho.
*Qimir* *is* *Smilo* *Ren.* This has been leaked for a few days already but it’s only stating the obvious that we all saw coming a mile (or a smilo) away. There’s a leaked photo with the helmet off and I believe that’s Mae holding a lightsaber to give back to Qimir. I wonder how Mae reacts to Qimir since the first few episodes, she does treat him like a bumbling loser. You can see Mae talk down on him. Treats him like her clumsy sidekick. Then she will discover he was her master all this time. I already expect all the haters on the Internet to trash that reveal saying they saw that reveal coming from a mile (or a smilo) away. How the writers are so stupid making it so obvious. I would’ve preferred if Qimir was a red herring and Smilo Ren was someone we haven’t seen yet, but alas, it’s as predictable as it comes. Now is Smilo Ren/Darth Venom/Qimir the acolyte, apprentice, or the master? That Force push was pretty strong for him to only be an acolyte. As for the Star Wars fandom, is it really fandom if you truly hate it or mock it all the time? I think The Acolyte is overHATED as I don’t feel it deserves a 13% audience score. Is it really worse than The Rings of Power S1 with Galadriel acting like a Mary Sue and Karen? Is it worse than She-Hulk: Attorney of Law where the writers had no clue of She-Hulk’s origin story since they never read the comics? Did we see Mae and Osha twerking next to Aniseya? 🤣 I was reading a comment on Thor Skywalker and it was saying how grifters/extremists makes a nice profit if they’re basing their channels on hate/cancel culture. Look at The Critical Drinker and Nerdrotic full of hating if it happens to be WOKE. I think both sides are morons, the shills and the grifters/haters. The WOKE and the anti-WOKE are ruining people’s enjoyment to watch stuff. The more negative it is, the higher the clicks. Star Wars Theory who used to be about talking Star Wars. Now he’s becoming a grifter like The Critical Drinker since they do live chats all the time. While TCD needs to be careful not to always sound toxic with his reviews because he’s directing a short feature. He doesn’t want to alienate the Hollywood industry he mocks. It’s why Chris Stuckmann went completely soft and can no longer be considered a critic. He will no longer CRITICize bad movies. The haters just want to be funny. The worst the show is, the funnier these RUclipsrs will try to be. But I will say The Acolyte hasn’t lived up to my low expectations. The Boys had an Episode 4 and House of the Dragon had an Episode 2 I thoroughly enjoyed. What good episode has The Acolyte given us? Nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada. No bueno. And I’m not sure Episode 5 is going to save it with that very predictable reveal. I say to THINK FOR YOURSELF. Form your own opinion. You never let anybody do that for you in this social media beehive mentality we live in. Don’t hate or enjoy something because someone else does it. I follow Tyrone Magnus but I don’t always agree with his opinions and he’s a Trumper like me. I think mocking movies started with How It Should Have Ended which started in 2005 before most of us started using RUclips. Then Honest Trailers in 2012 and Pitch Meeting in 2017. Originally, Will Jordan’s RUclips channel didn’t start off as him as “The Critical Drinker.” He found his niche once he bashed The Last Jedi in 2017 (which I think everyone did) and he’s never looked back since from that niche he found. He’s even more malicious than Siskel & Ebert from 1986-1999 until Gene Siskel’s death in 1999. But Will takes the mocking humor from Honest Trailers and Ryan George’s Pitch Meeting. Find the false logic from the movie’s story and mock the hell out of it. Since 2017, the trend of mocking Star Wars or anything bad from Disney or mainstream Hollywood began. Hating, cancel culture, anti-WOKE, and parody accounts are a good business for them. The more negative, the higher the views. Add more facepalms in those thumbnails like Unbox Therapy has done for years. Most people on the Internet want to bash someone or something, not praise them. Hate humor: that’s what they all aim for. I can understand the hatred towards The Acolyte. I saw Furiosa for the 5th time yesterday and I think it’s a modern classic. While not as great as Fury Road and maybe not as great as Mad Max 2, it’s still a helluva movie. My favorite movie of this summer so far. The pacing and action are relentless. Barely any time for quiet conversations. Furiosa is a box office flop led my a female not named Max, but I still enjoyed it. So I’m not being sexist if I think The Acolyte sucks if I enjoyed Furiosa. I think the WOKE crowd are calling viewers sexists or racists as an excuse to defend a bad product like The Acolyte. While the anti-WOKE crowd might be too extreme with their hatred but they will still watch it weekly anyway so they can generate those views when they make a video mocking it. I also think the WOKE stuff in it is why The Acolyte never got a fair shake. Was never given a chance from the start. Lesyle or should I spell it Lez-lie? Haters wanted to hate it before it ever premiered once Nerdrotic pointed out “space lesbians” after the trailers dropped. They wanted The Acolyte to fail from the start and it has. There’s excuse making from one side and then there’s overhating from the other side. I will watch Episode 5 tonight but if it sucks again like Episode 1-4 has been, I’ll stop watching it. I don’t need to waste anymore time finishing the series if I think it sucks. Favorite Movie/TV Series of the Summer 1. House of the Dragon S2 2. The Boys S4 (moved up after Ep. 4) 3. Furiosa (favorite movie of the summer) 4. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes 5. Bad Boys: Ride or Die The Boys S4 has also got it’s share of anti-WOKE criticisms even though The Boys has always been political since S2. Audience score is at *52%* rotten. But since The Acolyte is so bad, The Boys S4 doesn’t generate as much attention for having a low audience score. I’m giving The Boys S4 about a B so far, so it’s at 85%. S4 is better than S2 but not S1 or S3. House of the Dragon S2 currently has a 92% audience score. It’s safe even with Black actors casted for white roles. Baela and Rhaena being Black and being Daemon’s daughters looks weird to me. But I digress because the production values, writing, and acting are all excellent. The same things can’t be said for The Acolyte. Is it 13% bad? No. More like 50% bad but not 13%. I give it a 6.5 which is 65% because I’m quite forgiving.
yeah, the series is game changing when it comes to lowering expectations for the rest of the upcoming shows, it's also a game changer when it comes to being one of the worst series ever produced with a budget of 180mil (have in mind that godzilla minus one, it's 10 times better with 10 times less budget), it's the new lowest point in sw
While i agree that the Acolyte hasn't been to everyone's expectations, I'm more upset with the fandom for how they're are acting with all the gatekeeping and death threats. Its too much for me that i might consider leaving the fandom enitrely.
it took you this long to realise that's what the Star Wars fanbase behaves like when they're upset? I mean, even if you weren't born yet when Jake Lloyd and Ahmed Best were getting harassed to no end, surely other more recent cases like Moses Ingram or Kelly Marie Tran should have clued you in on something about the mindset behind this fanbase.
@@XieRH1988 The prequels were a little before my time. I do remember I think when I was 5 seeing a commercial promoting Revenge Of The Sith when it was first coming out.
Even if you turn-off your brain to try to enjoy this disney fanfiction you would still not have fun with this.... so yeah, avoid this if you like shows with quality.
Ever since Disney bought Star Wars they changed light sabars in a big way … I mean it’s like there literally holding neon light sticks or something I mean the glow and the light is just to over whelming and excessive it’s like there flash lights mean while gorge light sabers are like perfect OG
Yes but not, in every show the lightsabers look different, like Rebels or Clone Wars, in Ashoka the sabers looks coolest than this series, so i think it's a thing of direction. I mean, they Kylo ren saber it's a very nice looking one
Internet is a fun place place... were extreme views left and right, get together to lie and fight. It's just the entertainment value we prefer in this day and age. While in the real world everyone's watching the series. What else are you going watch... another maga rally. If the first episode, is as if , sitting on a nail. The internet is nothing but scrappers with prickly arses, making a living off clicks. Entertainment value only, gladiators in the arena, primping and preening to put food on their table. YT = Shoppers' Network 2.0
I just got finished watching Episode 5. Without getting into spoilers, I have to say that I think this episode had so much wasted potential that it was actually depressing to watch.
@@cuberrt No you didnt already know everything that happened in Ep.3. You might as well say you already knew everything that happened in the PT. Go back to your flashy lightsaber fights, you're clearly too ignorant for this show.
I disagree. What people get wrong is that the mystery doesn't start in episode 1 it starts in episode 3. The actual mystery is learning what happened on Brendok.
If Qimir is the Sith Lord, now I’m supposed to believe that a super young guy is Lord of the Sith? Worse yet, he would be the master. It would make more sense if Tenebrous is the Sith Lord and Plageuis is the apprentice in this timeframe.
To be fair, there's one actor in the cast we haven't seen on screen yet. My money is that Qimir is the 'Sith Acolyte', and his boss is the actual Sith Lord. Possibly Tenebrous and his rule of two violating ways.
That's not even the problem with the story and writing. It's the fact that with what has been told thus far in 4 episodes the identity reveal has no narrative purpose. None of the characters have enough backstory or buildup to distinguish how a their potential reveal would make the story unfold in different ways. In fact the whole mystery element to this show is based on the audience having bad/incomplete information. There is nothing engaging or thoughtful about it. There is nothing to solve. People are just waiting to be told the answer. And the biggest sin is do it in the most boring way and spending half the show without a proper lightsaber fight.
Watching HotD alongside this makes me realize just how garbage this show is. Everything about it is just so... amateur. Literal quality production versus fan film scenario.
I think the pacing killed the series. It could've been not amazing but fine if the episodes were twice as long and faster pace. Instead, it feels really dragged out without much actual contnt.
This show is just one big disappointment... It seems the writers are overly focused on attributes like gender and skin color. It's ironic to see them complain about sexism and racism, only to perpetuate those issues themselves (along with a poor script). The lack of self-awareness is astonishing.
@@wolfen8622 they won't address it, when you criticize the activism or ideology that turns things into political propaganda, you get gaslighted and other underhanded behaviour thrown at you for the simple act of criticizing it. See a lot of, and worse for years now.
They haven't once talked about skin color? What do you mean? They really haven't even talked about gender either in the show. Do you care to elaborate?
@@DarksideGmss0513 I don’t know if you watched the show but it’s more than obvious. Also I’ve heard that they literally take pride in hiring writers that have “never seen” Star Wars and were “unbiased”… I already can tell everything that’s going to happen. Keywords: Grey Jedi. “Balance”. “Yassss queeen” Watch me be right.
You’re not paying attention, and on top of that, you found the time to whine about whiners. There are valid points among the comments. Another typical npc response from the likes of you 💯
If spoilers are true… (continue reading below) Smylo Ren is Asian Ezra Miller, and this mystery show is worse than a Scooby-Doo episode. A badly written story, with badly written characters, a boring mystery that is nothing more than foreshadowing, and lore-breaking events. Yeah, I’m giving Disney Star Wars a pass. Moar Andor please, I’m skipping all the rest.
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All the stereotypes that the writers and creators are complaining about, they’re putting into the show. Then getting angry when us normal fans don’t care for it.
This exactly ⬆️
Nobody is getting angry at anything. Stop making up lies that the writers or creators hate fans or criticism. Find me anyone on the Acolyte that "complains".
hm
Like what?
Do you have any evidence that the writers got angry at fans?
Well this aged well, no?
This episode is boring. And infuriating to watch. With the cutting away from the action to get boring dialogue… then we get the stupidity of characters…. How does a fucking Sith Lord who killed Jedi get taken away by bugs?
@@phillipcoleman6422Easy, he isn’t really a sith. My theory is he is a Knight of Ren
@@MisterJax how is he a knight of ren when this takes place before the events of episode 1?
I think the biggest change that needs to be made to Star Wars shows, other than actually having a well thought out storyline, is making movies instead of TV Shows. Of course that depends on what the individual story needs
or making TV shows scripts like actual TV shows and not cutting up movies into 8 parts
@@Ewokpilot65 also true
@Ewokpilot65 They said for Obiwan, they didn't want to make it movie quality. Imo, these TV shows need to feel like one long movie in terms of quality. 180 million for this show, and it feels like it was made by CW at some points.
HotD seems to do just fine making a quality show with a similar budget to the Acolyte. So, I don't think it is shows vs. movies.
Their track record outside of Rogue One hasn't been that good either.
I wouldn’t hold your breath mate….😂
Episode 5 was awesome 😁
Even if there’s one or two episodes that are either mid or decent, It’s still wouldn’t be enough to save this show from itself.
That's my thoughts on Kenobi. The last episode or two was really awesome I thought, but it wasn't good enough to justify the rest of the garage that was the rest of the season. I still much prefer that the series didn't happen to begin with but that's a different discussion I guess.
All of the episodes so far were mid. Not bad.
Spoiler:
The “Sith” is Qimir. I’m just gonna leave it at that.
This show amazes me by trying to produce mystery, but it ain’t mystery if you know something is coming. we know Qimir is the sith, we know there is more to the fire at the coven, and we know one of the witch mothers is going to turn up at the end with some “i am your mother” line
It’s barely a spoiler, it’s already obvious
The best part about it is that they wrote themselves so deep into a corner with that foreshadowing that if it turns out to be anyone else, it'll make zero narrative sense.
Darth Venemus most likely
Except its not.
At this point I'm tuned out and just going to sit back for Andor S2.
Yeah andor was the best of disney. Better than the mandalorian for sure. And just as good as the original trilogy. S2 is gonna be epic. Hopefully👏andor is our only hope. so im gonna give andor a chance. But if s2 ends up being bad. Then STAR wars is truly dead. nothing we do can save it.
I need Andor season 2
I’m very disappointed that they’re only making two seasons of _Andor…_ three would’ve been a nice little “trilogy,” you know? and I think the prison arc from Season 1 was interesting enough that it could’ve been expanded to a whole season 👍
but also, _Skeleton Crew_ was created by the _Spider-man: Home Trilogy_ guy, so it could still be good 🤷🏻♂️
I hope they do another show with the quality of Andor after it wraps up.
It won't matter if it's game changing or not as people have already made up their minds about the show.
Four words that should make a shocking plot twist: Multiversal operatives wreaking havoc.
After just watching that episode, I'd say yes it was game changing
It’d be hilarious if Ep 5 was a flashback and they made us wait another week for the fight.
Yeah ok that's where I give up on the show.
I know right. They got us on the edge of our seats (no sarcasm)
@@nutmegriot209 I can well imagine, we’ll find out soon 🤣
That’d be playing by manga rules.
The writers are just downright bad. I'm sorry but $180 mil can't buy the best writing staff?
This had more budget than Godzilla Minus-1, isn't that something ?
@@sarah42e We cant really judge it that way cause the hollywood stuff is mostly overly "inflated" and the japanese stuff is overly "deflated". Basically lets just say that the american movies/tv series are much mor expensive than the norm and the japanese movies/tv series are much cheaper than the norm and that doesnt affect quality of the product but mostly the pay of the actors/directors/writers etc...
@@saytam_ar Hollywood IS the norm. Which is why it's so concerning.
@@bluemoondm8629 even if you want to argue that it is the norm IT doesnt change the fact that 1. American movie/tv series budget are unecessarily inflated and 2. Japanese movies/TV series "deflated... Most of the difference Is in the pay of the staff as i said... Godzilla -1 had a budget of about 15million USD which Is seriously low... If IT was made in the US it would have has maybe SLIGHTLY better vissuals but the budget would sudenly be 100-200 millions USD.
Dune had a lower budget @@sarah42e
The lightsaber combat was amazing, it struck the perfect balance between the prequels and sequals.
Each episode of this fanfiction of Star Wars had more budget than Godzilla Minus-1.... isn't that amazing ?
Expanse had less of a budget
I would argue that this show has already been game changing enough for me.
And it was game changing.
When the Jedi posse runs through the jungle with their lightsabers it reminds me of the glowing condoms from Skin Deep.
Wow. I got the reference. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing.
I remember Andor having a slow start too. The first 3 episodes were widely critiqued for their slow pacing. Andor did ramp up and delivered at the end though, something that feels like the opposite of most of the shows which start strong then go downhill steadily.
Honestly whatever confrontation the sith-coded guy has with the Jedi, I don't think it will save the show from the bad writing problem. Obi Wan and Ahsoka had some pretty great lightsaber duels and both shows still suffered from bad writing. The dopamine hit from a cool fight scene wears off really quick because action scenes these days are a dime a dozen. Good acting and writing is the stuff that's a lot harder to come by. That's why in Andor, the monologues from characters like Andy Serkis and Stellan Skarsgard are so memorable and iconic.
How is the writing bad?
This is the best analysis of the show yet. Episode 3 slammed the breaks on a show that was going at a pretty good pace. Ep 1&2 were really interesting and I liked the characters. Having the 3rd ep be an entire flashback episode threw things out of wack. I'm on the fence about the show, but if episode 5 nails the landing I think the show can be really good.
Episode 5 fucking landed it
@@geovannibotticella7822best piece of live action Star Wars I’ve ever seen tbh
it fuckin was. such an amazing episode.
This aged well
I literally have no more faith in this franchise anymore especially when they’re making a Ray movie like what the hell
then why are you here?
@@dane8947 Placing flowers on the grave
rip 1977-2012
@@dane8947ohh yeah, here they are .. the “why you keep watching 🥸☝🏻” .. maybe because that’s the only way we can know if this show is entirely trash ? How can anyone criticize a product without seeing it first? Genius
@@dane8947 why do you have a clone wars profile pic than a Star Wars sequels one or acolyte
@@doggonoburritos4327 clone wars was what got me into Star Wars. I grew up with it. This has been my profile pic for six years and I own this clone’s helmet. I think the sequels are fine though and that Disney has made more good than bad Star Wars
I hope they add flashbacks that add more and more context to what really happend in the past.
I don't buy it, that a master Jedi drinks poison because some 8 year old accidentally killed her witch family.
Discount Ezra Miller is the Smilo Ren. This is not a twist, this was obvious. They think you're an idiot.
Except it's not.
Maybe the twist isn’t who the Sith is, but something else..
Weird criticism - they know YOU know who it is. It's just the Jedi who don't.
But sure - 'they' think you're an idiot.
It will be the Wookie. We know this because:
- We know the Wookie died off-screen and faked his death.
- There were numerous reshoots, so not every scene will correlate with the next.
- Disney lightsabers can't really hurt people. They just burn a little.
- They didn't use a steel knife on him.
- Their budget of 180 million was used for the vacations, so they couldn't afford to get a "Wookie Sith Costume" at the last minute of shooting.
- The writers don't know Wookies, so they will be retconned and made into shapeshifters or use the Force to alter their shapes.
The Wookie is the Sith. Has to be.
0:25 "The introduction of the Siff" Who are the SIFF???
Lispy lords of the Sith. 😁
Episode 5,6,7,8, all need to be at least 45 mins or longer
Lol no thanks
They all need to be 0 minutes total
The whole show needed to have 1 hour episodes given the budget.
@@rigatenes338 the budget went to overpayed people lol whoever invested into this got robbed
This show is too predictable....Qimir is the "Master"
NO WAY !!!!
Ok. But what if it isn’t?
@@ryvlaw if it's not him, then it's the mother
I don’t know the Ep 5. needs to be game changing. This is a 6 hour story broken into 8 episodes. You wouldn’t go to a movie and expect the the heroes to defeat the adversary in the first 30 minutes of the movie? This is a mystery, we shouldn’t expect to get to the resolution until Ep 8 or possible Ep 7.
This isn’t episodic TV. It’s not a collection of 8 short stories told to complete a season. It’s a single story that’s being broken at convenient break points to package it up. This show would have been best done if all episodes dropped at once. That’s Disney’s biggest failure here.
We are also used to Star Wars being an action/adventure story. Andor did this to some point. I remember it getting some hate around that as well, but once the show was done, it became a more respected story.
And it did.
Episode 5 needs like a long extended fight scene with the jedi and the sith á la the Hallway Scene in Daredevil or something.
nah id rather find out who he is and how the jedi perceive him rather than get some ridiculously long revenge of the sith esque battle
@@dane8947 I dunno, the last 2 episodes were really boring and I'm not talking a RotS type sequence, the Hallway scene in Daredevil is very different. It actually builds tension.
We will be lucky if we get at least a 30 seconds fight scene.... if they do not die off-screen that is.
@@Juel92 Episode 5 was directed by Alex Garcia Lopez also Episode 4, he is from Daredevil :)
Lightsabers are racist tho
I think this episode needs to show the huge stakes especially who’s strong this Sith guy is.
Don't worry, you will see how strong he is after he kills all the jedi off-screen.
@@sarah42e you do realize they are going to show the fight in the episode?
@@MrTragedious986 you do realize i was being sarcastic right ?
I’d like to know your opinion on the episode now because holy shit 😭
@@becknorland587 glad the show has balls to kill off characters.
That would require writers/directors who actually know how to craft a good story. Unfortunately, these seem to be in short supply at Disney as a whole lately. Or there is too much interference going on to craft a good story.
I think it might be both. I know there are some talented writers at Disney. But it often feels like the shows that Disney produces fall short of some of these writers more niche projects. And then I'm sure that some story group/executive did some meddling. I think they stretched out the show and cut it up to a degree that was not intended. I suspect that the same thing happened to the Kenobi show to a slightly greater success.
Why do streaming services have episodes of varying lengths. Sometimes it goes from being locked in and wanting more to wondering if I waited a week just to see someone fumble the bag by rushing something
I feel like the next flashback episode will be in the next one, 5, just because the last one was such a big cliffhanger and they wanna keep us waiting
If I ever rewatch the series (which I may do for a star wars marathon), I'll likely just skip episode 3 because it contributed very little to the overall storyline
i actually liked the first two episodes but it was just all downhill from there it seems
Same, they had flaws...big flaws...but i turned off my brain and i kinda liked the first two...
well, they killed off most of the characters, so anything could happen
Im interested to see this fight. otherwise im kind of just bord with it. i htink it will get good or better but idk, im just kind of here waching it ig. idk. but i am interested in what is going ot hapen next i think its gona get alot beter.
Doesn't the episode come out today, the 25th?
Those are amazing points.. I wish they thought of strategically adding in flashbacks throughout the episodes in the writing room!
They need to bring Jecki back, when they killed my favorite character I was angry.
as if we don't have enough characters surviving stab wounds
Comparing the writing of Mr robot to acolyte a.k.a. College film project is pretty bold 😅
So how many jedi are now dead in this series
We may finally get a glimpse at what's at stake ? I mean, after all the drama, all the mediocre plot, the terrible directing, the strange timeline and the uninterrupted unexplained stroll through the galaxy, episode 5 may finally introduce us to the Sith, to what he threatens, to what his plan is, to why Mae stuck with him all this time... Or it may not. This show is stupid.
So what did you think
It wont be the evil twin master is the discount ezra.
what if they give us another flashback episode before finishing the scene that they ended the previous episode with? 😑
Don't even know why anyone bothers. Why would you expect anything good if nothing but shit precedes it?
Honestly I don't really care about the show, don't hate it, don't love it, but episode 5 could be the best Star Wars thing ever, people on internet have decided they would hate it and they will (and brag about hating it everywhere they can, before saying people are paid by Disney for not being a brainless hater)
It would be hilarious if they do another flash back
This show is shit, and that's it. There is no « redemption arc » with this one.
It was
This show could have been animated
I get the feeling they make these the wrong way, It always feels like they given 8 episodes and a set budget and they then have to make it "work" - I do not envy the directors.
They should be allowed free reign to do whatever they want ( with some help and supervision) but not hampered by set runtime
MR ROBOT MENTIONED. WHAT EVEN IS A DULL EPISODE!?
painfully obvious they didnt have a story to tell. Not only running times are short as hell but the pacing is atrocious through most of the series. Events that happen in episode 4 can be written down in 1-2 short sentences.
Mr Robot > Basically every other show
Too late in the game now my friend. Don't know about them turning it around now.
Oh fuck yeah that’s tomorrow. Can’t wait to hear more about the dumpster fire, cuz God knows I’m not gonna watch it.
Really excited to see where the show goes. Also, still doubt he's a sith.
Either it'll be a good episode, or sadly, they'll keep dragging the "story" till episode 6 or 7.
I just hope it's not the latter, and it picks up pace, spices up the plot, and gives some life to these characters.
Very likely, they'll drag till 6 or 7. The classic Disney+ strategy for most IP shows. I hope they prove us wrong tho.
ZZZ ZZZ 😴 😴 😴 😴. Mr. Robot is Goated.
The first few episodes all suckkkeeeddd so bad..5th was amazing..killing off main characters was a hot move
Welp, it definitely won’t be so….🤷🏻♀️
it's hopeless..
*Qimir* *is* *Smilo* *Ren.* This has been leaked for a few days already but it’s only stating the obvious that we all saw coming a mile (or a smilo) away. There’s a leaked photo with the helmet off and I believe that’s Mae holding a lightsaber to give back to Qimir. I wonder how Mae reacts to Qimir since the first few episodes, she does treat him like a bumbling loser. You can see Mae talk down on him. Treats him like her clumsy sidekick. Then she will discover he was her master all this time.
I already expect all the haters on the Internet to trash that reveal saying they saw that reveal coming from a mile (or a smilo) away. How the writers are so stupid making it so obvious. I would’ve preferred if Qimir was a red herring and Smilo Ren was someone we haven’t seen yet, but alas, it’s as predictable as it comes. Now is Smilo Ren/Darth Venom/Qimir the acolyte, apprentice, or the master? That Force push was pretty strong for him to only be an acolyte.
As for the Star Wars fandom, is it really fandom if you truly hate it or mock it all the time? I think The Acolyte is overHATED as I don’t feel it deserves a 13% audience score. Is it really worse than The Rings of Power S1 with Galadriel acting like a Mary Sue and Karen? Is it worse than She-Hulk: Attorney of Law where the writers had no clue of She-Hulk’s origin story since they never read the comics? Did we see Mae and Osha twerking next to Aniseya? 🤣
I was reading a comment on Thor Skywalker and it was saying how grifters/extremists makes a nice profit if they’re basing their channels on hate/cancel culture. Look at The Critical Drinker and Nerdrotic full of hating if it happens to be WOKE. I think both sides are morons, the shills and the grifters/haters. The WOKE and the anti-WOKE are ruining people’s enjoyment to watch stuff. The more negative it is, the higher the clicks.
Star Wars Theory who used to be about talking Star Wars. Now he’s becoming a grifter like The Critical Drinker since they do live chats all the time. While TCD needs to be careful not to always sound toxic with his reviews because he’s directing a short feature. He doesn’t want to alienate the Hollywood industry he mocks. It’s why Chris Stuckmann went completely soft and can no longer be considered a critic. He will no longer CRITICize bad movies.
The haters just want to be funny. The worst the show is, the funnier these RUclipsrs will try to be. But I will say The Acolyte hasn’t lived up to my low expectations. The Boys had an Episode 4 and House of the Dragon had an Episode 2 I thoroughly enjoyed. What good episode has The Acolyte given us? Nothing. Zero. Zilch. Nada. No bueno. And I’m not sure Episode 5 is going to save it with that very predictable reveal.
I say to THINK FOR YOURSELF. Form your own opinion. You never let anybody do that for you in this social media beehive mentality we live in. Don’t hate or enjoy something because someone else does it. I follow Tyrone Magnus but I don’t always agree with his opinions and he’s a Trumper like me. I think mocking movies started with How It Should Have Ended which started in 2005 before most of us started using RUclips. Then Honest Trailers in 2012 and Pitch Meeting in 2017.
Originally, Will Jordan’s RUclips channel didn’t start off as him as “The Critical Drinker.” He found his niche once he bashed The Last Jedi in 2017 (which I think everyone did) and he’s never looked back since from that niche he found. He’s even more malicious than Siskel & Ebert from 1986-1999 until Gene Siskel’s death in 1999. But Will takes the mocking humor from Honest Trailers and Ryan George’s Pitch Meeting. Find the false logic from the movie’s story and mock the hell out of it.
Since 2017, the trend of mocking Star Wars or anything bad from Disney or mainstream Hollywood began. Hating, cancel culture, anti-WOKE, and parody accounts are a good business for them. The more negative, the higher the views. Add more facepalms in those thumbnails like Unbox Therapy has done for years. Most people on the Internet want to bash someone or something, not praise them. Hate humor: that’s what they all aim for.
I can understand the hatred towards The Acolyte. I saw Furiosa for the 5th time yesterday and I think it’s a modern classic. While not as great as Fury Road and maybe not as great as Mad Max 2, it’s still a helluva movie. My favorite movie of this summer so far. The pacing and action are relentless. Barely any time for quiet conversations. Furiosa is a box office flop led my a female not named Max, but I still enjoyed it. So I’m not being sexist if I think The Acolyte sucks if I enjoyed Furiosa.
I think the WOKE crowd are calling viewers sexists or racists as an excuse to defend a bad product like The Acolyte. While the anti-WOKE crowd might be too extreme with their hatred but they will still watch it weekly anyway so they can generate those views when they make a video mocking it. I also think the WOKE stuff in it is why The Acolyte never got a fair shake. Was never given a chance from the start. Lesyle or should I spell it Lez-lie?
Haters wanted to hate it before it ever premiered once Nerdrotic pointed out “space lesbians” after the trailers dropped. They wanted The Acolyte to fail from the start and it has. There’s excuse making from one side and then there’s overhating from the other side. I will watch Episode 5 tonight but if it sucks again like Episode 1-4 has been, I’ll stop watching it. I don’t need to waste anymore time finishing the series if I think it sucks.
Favorite Movie/TV Series of the Summer
1. House of the Dragon S2
2. The Boys S4 (moved up after Ep. 4)
3. Furiosa (favorite movie of the summer)
4. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
5. Bad Boys: Ride or Die
The Boys S4 has also got it’s share of anti-WOKE criticisms even though The Boys has always been political since S2. Audience score is at *52%* rotten. But since The Acolyte is so bad, The Boys S4 doesn’t generate as much attention for having a low audience score. I’m giving The Boys S4 about a B so far, so it’s at 85%. S4 is better than S2 but not S1 or S3.
House of the Dragon S2 currently has a 92% audience score. It’s safe even with Black actors casted for white roles. Baela and Rhaena being Black and being Daemon’s daughters looks weird to me. But I digress because the production values, writing, and acting are all excellent. The same things can’t be said for The Acolyte. Is it 13% bad? No. More like 50% bad but not 13%. I give it a 6.5 which is 65% because I’m quite forgiving.
The series has ALREADY been "game changing"; just not in a way in which you and some others are willing to admit.
This is just a disney fanfiction of star wars, not real star wars, so everything is ok. I will only get angry if they change the originals.
yeah, the series is game changing when it comes to lowering expectations for the rest of the upcoming shows, it's also a game changer when it comes to being one of the worst series ever produced with a budget of 180mil (have in mind that godzilla minus one, it's 10 times better with 10 times less budget), it's the new lowest point in sw
This show should never been made. Just that.
It's going to suck.
While i agree that the Acolyte hasn't been to everyone's expectations, I'm more upset with the fandom for how they're are acting with all the gatekeeping and death threats. Its too much for me that i might consider leaving the fandom enitrely.
it took you this long to realise that's what the Star Wars fanbase behaves like when they're upset? I mean, even if you weren't born yet when Jake Lloyd and Ahmed Best were getting harassed to no end, surely other more recent cases like Moses Ingram or Kelly Marie Tran should have clued you in on something about the mindset behind this fanbase.
@@XieRH1988 i was around before the prequels were even a thing so i knew the fandom could be toxic, but not to this extent.
@@XieRH1988 The prequels were a little before my time. I do remember I think when I was 5 seeing a commercial promoting Revenge Of The Sith when it was first coming out.
I like it, change my mind
Whatever they do people are going to complain, every star wars media has sombody complaining about it. So enjoy the parts you like
You're allowed to like things mate. Just because most of us don't like it doesn't mean you can't.
@@Real_Iron_Smith omg a not toxic fan :)
Wow a fan that's not toxic and doesn't ask to justify why they like the show. That's actually refreshing for once. @@Real_Iron_Smith
It wont be
I think I’m doing myself a favor avoiding this show.
Even if you turn-off your brain to try to enjoy this disney fanfiction you would still not have fun with this.... so yeah, avoid this if you like shows with quality.
Imagine if disney wastes money on a second season of these trash!?!😂😂😂😂
It be game changing when Kathleen Kennedy steps down.
No she deserves to be fired it only takes on look at the Disney stock to know that its well deserved.
Ever since Disney bought Star Wars they changed light sabars in a big way … I mean it’s like there literally holding neon light sticks or something I mean the glow and the light is just to over whelming and excessive it’s like there flash lights mean while gorge light sabers are like perfect OG
Yes but not, in every show the lightsabers look different, like Rebels or Clone Wars, in Ashoka the sabers looks coolest than this series, so i think it's a thing of direction. I mean, they Kylo ren saber it's a very nice looking one
Torbin is the Sith.
No plot twist can rescue this mess!
When is Eck gonna be honest about the blatant propaganda
“Grrrr minorities are in a show” they aren’t telling you to do shit
What propaganda? You racist or something?
Get ready for lesbian female Darth Maul….
Lesbian Darth Talon?
Darn, I was hoping for lesbian male Darth Maul 🙁.
Internet is a fun place place... were extreme views left and right,
get together to lie and fight. It's just the entertainment value we prefer in this day and age.
While in the real world everyone's watching the series. What else are you going watch... another maga rally.
If the first episode, is as if , sitting on a nail. The internet is nothing but scrappers with prickly arses, making a living off clicks. Entertainment value only, gladiators in the arena, primping and preening to put food on their table. YT = Shoppers' Network 2.0
Episode 5 needs to kill star wars if it hasn't already.
This is not star wars, this is a disney fanfiction of it, one must learn to differentiate the two.
I just got finished watching Episode 5. Without getting into spoilers, I have to say that I think this episode had so much wasted potential that it was actually depressing to watch.
I liked it, but I've always liked sw despite it ALWAYS having goofy af writing and direction
I feel so bad for star wars fans.
Episode 3 was just completely unnecessary like bro we already know what happened, we don't need a 30 minute episode explaining it again.💀
Go back to the PT and watch your flashy lightsaber fights.
@@rorrschach8339 What does that have to do with anything? We already knew all the information that episode 3 provided. It was just complete filler.
@@cuberrt No you didnt already know everything that happened in Ep.3. You might as well say you already knew everything that happened in the PT. Go back to your flashy lightsaber fights, you're clearly too ignorant for this show.
I disagree. What people get wrong is that the mystery doesn't start in episode 1 it starts in episode 3. The actual mystery is learning what happened on Brendok.
@@rorrschach8339 Aight tell me exactly what new information episode 3 provided that's actually important to the plot.
If Qimir is the Sith Lord, now I’m supposed to believe that a super young guy is Lord of the Sith? Worse yet, he would be the master. It would make more sense if Tenebrous is the Sith Lord and Plageuis is the apprentice in this timeframe.
To be fair, there's one actor in the cast we haven't seen on screen yet. My money is that Qimir is the 'Sith Acolyte', and his boss is the actual Sith Lord. Possibly Tenebrous and his rule of two violating ways.
That's not even the problem with the story and writing. It's the fact that with what has been told thus far in 4 episodes the identity reveal has no narrative purpose. None of the characters have enough backstory or buildup to distinguish how a their potential reveal would make the story unfold in different ways. In fact the whole mystery element to this show is based on the audience having bad/incomplete information. There is nothing engaging or thoughtful about it. There is nothing to solve. People are just waiting to be told the answer.
And the biggest sin is do it in the most boring way and spending half the show without a proper lightsaber fight.
Watching HotD alongside this makes me realize just how garbage this show is. Everything about it is just so... amateur. Literal quality production versus fan film scenario.
I think the pacing killed the series. It could've been not amazing but fine if the episodes were twice as long and faster pace. Instead, it feels really dragged out without much actual contnt.
The DEI consulting companies Mada bank on this show. That's for sure.
I recall saying the rise of skywalker needed to be game changing, it was not
If this show did what they did for fallout we wouldn’t have this problem
Comparing Mr. Robot to the Acolyte is like comparing Gold to pimples filled with feces.
This show is just one big disappointment... It seems the writers are overly focused on attributes like gender and skin color. It's ironic to see them complain about sexism and racism, only to perpetuate those issues themselves (along with a poor script).
The lack of self-awareness is astonishing.
wow, you have studied well your favorite youtubers!
@@sarah42e Could you elaborate? I seem to have missed the part where you addressed my criticism.
@@wolfen8622 they won't address it, when you criticize the activism or ideology that turns things into political propaganda, you get gaslighted and other underhanded behaviour thrown at you for the simple act of criticizing it.
See a lot of, and worse for years now.
They haven't once talked about skin color? What do you mean? They really haven't even talked about gender either in the show. Do you care to elaborate?
@@DarksideGmss0513 I don’t know if you watched the show but it’s more than obvious. Also I’ve heard that they literally take pride in hiring writers that have “never seen” Star Wars and were “unbiased”…
I already can tell everything that’s going to happen.
Keywords:
Grey Jedi. “Balance”. “Yassss queeen”
Watch me be right.
Blah blah blah, comment section is nothing but consistent whining
You’re not paying attention, and on top of that, you found the time to whine about whiners. There are valid points among the comments. Another typical npc response from the likes of you 💯
@@mar.prz10 The whiners aren't paying attention. There are no valid points in the comments because these people aren't paying attention to the show.
If spoilers are true… (continue reading below)
Smylo Ren is Asian Ezra Miller, and this mystery show is worse than a Scooby-Doo episode. A badly written story, with badly written characters, a boring mystery that is nothing more than foreshadowing, and lore-breaking events. Yeah, I’m giving Disney Star Wars a pass.
Moar Andor please, I’m skipping all the rest.
Spoiler alert is was def not "game changing" the writing is still AWFUL but the action was pretty good.
Stop giving this show attention in any way
Why is no one talking about how bad the lightsabers look