March of the Machine Precons: Worst to Best
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- This is your FULL review of all five March of the Machine precons, from worst to best! Figure out which ones you want to buy from Magic's newest set!
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2:35 Divine Convocation
12:10 Growing Threat
17:58 Call for Backup
25:04 Tinker Time
33:23 Cavalry Charge
Hedron detonator is the perfect example of almost every set having a card that was just randomly made for Prosper Tomb-bound
I love how content that kitty is with the ear scratchies
She LOVES them
As any horsegirl will tell you the bond between a person and a horse is incredibly powerful and unbreakable. Horsemanship taps into that bond and together they can't be stopped.
The biggest weakness of the Convoke deck imo was not being in green, which had the best convoke spells prior to this set. However I like how they are shifting what is essentially a ramp keyword out of the color with the best ramp.
If only Myrel, Shield of Argive was a knight instead of soldiers. That would be absolutely insane
true, we need a knight version NOW
I'm reviewing the comments from worst to best! 😂
Good luck with that!
Pick me, pick me!
Ur telling me that the eminence commander is the best one 😮
Pretty weird right?
Great content! It is fun that they brought back a bunch of old borderline abilities from flanking, horsemanship, convoke, hybrid mana, and more. You never know how a set plays until you play it, but the throwbacks give me chills and evoke some great if dusty memories.
A lot of people are giving the convoke precon a lower rank than the others. The ability to use your creatures as mana and a commander that can be paid for a unique way has always shown to be a heavy hitter. (Derevi, Yuriko, Liesa,) Honestly, it's the only one I'm interested in. I'm not saying it's the best out of box out of the 5 but I definitely feel it's not the worst. Looking forward to playing them all against each other with friends for some good out-of-box playtesting! :)
Having gotten this deck, it is a lot of fun and performs better than expected! Tapping your whole board for Wildfire Awakener is legitimately busted
I’ve played against this deck both vanilla and upgrade in pods with each of the other decks both upgraded and vanilla, and it loses literally every game. It is by and far the worst deck,
@@Hanbro1o Agreed, Wildfire Awakener did some work the matches I've played with it!
Not sure if someone already pointed this out or not, but Brimaz's proliferate triggers at the end of every end step, not just your own
I think a lot of ppl are sleeping on Kasla. Preordain on a beefy keyword soup creature that has built in cost reduction is not as bad as everyone is making it seem. Even if you preordain 5 times throughout the game, that’s good value.
I don't think she is a bad commande, I think the problem is that a convoke theme isn't that well supported by the other cards in the 99.
She herself has convoke, making her easy to cast and recast, keeping a strong board presence. And don't forget card's like kembas banner and horn of Valhalla! Kasla will be a ongoing face smasher throughout the game.
@@davidramage8860 WOW, those cards are gas. I forgot about Kemba’s banner
Vedalken Humiliator was probably put in there for stuff like slivers, or an army of indestructible/deathtouch/protection things, or if there's like a deck with a creature that can block everything all at once. Whatever. Even if they're just huge, they'll be 1/1 and attacking may not be nearly the big deal it otherwise would be.
Lore/fluff wise, Kamigawa fox-folk have interesting naming convention. We've got Bright-Palm, Light-Paws, Pearl Ear, Golden-Tail etc. So nope, Light-Paws and Bight-Palm are two different characters
I know Chant of Vitu-Ghazi is kinda bad still, but it prevents all damage from creatures, not just combat dmg. I think that's pretty relevant in some cases with Chandra's Ignition or Ziatora etc. So its not JUST a fog. But I'll agree its kind bad. In precon environment maybe it can be good.
Imo, I feel like most of the new convoke cards are quite powerful, and theres already so many degenerate ways to create many tokens easily, even specific coloured tokens. You could easily build a powerful convoke deck with a decent token engine/package.
Edit: also alot of combo potential because of how you can cast things for free
Agreed. I love the design space. It's refreshing to see fun and unique interesting decks builds across the table rather than just tuned up monsters with all the same staples all the time.
I'm pretty new to the format but I have been following your channel for a few weeks. This is a great idea for a segment cause there's a ton of overwhelming information. keep up the good work!
Hope it helped you!
I can right away tell that the "unique tokens" deck will be a paint to keep track on all the things. Table will look like someone blew up confetti all over the place haha. To preserve brain power I have started to limit the bimnwr of different tokens and triggers as much as possible and still keep it powerful because it can become so time consuming to keep track of everything and manage the tokens.
I think "Bright-Palm Light-Paws" is a naming convention for their species or culture similar to the ratfolk with Marrow-Gnawer and Ink-eyes
WotC should face federal charges for not printing a goddamn banana token for Kibo. Unacceptable.
Awesome video! Thanks for making these and getting them out before the decks are released. I appreciate your analysis and use it when making my decisions about which decks to get or skip.
Comcoke was primarily selesnya in the past so a lot really good convoke cards (March og the Multitudes, Chord of Calling, Impervious Greatwurm, etc) are all green and not playable in Jeskai
Yeah, even the black dragon is out of bounds color-wise
It is annoying for sure
I remember the "Go back to Gimbals" line, because my family insists on watching ELF every single year.
YES I KNEW I WASN’T ALONE
Most of these Pre-cons are not that good. The Sidar Jabari of Zhalfir is such a strong Commander along with its Eminence ability. I also like Locthwain Lancer, Adeline, and Herald of Hoofbeats. Knights will be making a comeback. Thank you for the video Nitpicking Nerds.
I’m getting the backup deck to pick apart for my Marisi, Breaker of the Coil deck. It has a bunch of mentor/training cards that will work great with some of those pieces.
Wave-knight goes infinite with benthic biomancer. Still need Jace/lab man to not die to it though
That’s awesome 😎
People really are sleeping on Wand of the World Soul. A mana rock that can turn your creatures into mana dorks for a single spell is a powerful effect. I'll be surprised if it doesn't become a staple in creature based decks that run white in the future.
But it's basically a 4 mana rock? That's ... really weak
@@spudster8887 it entering tapped doesn't make it a four mana rock. People do play 2 cmc rocks that enter tapped. They don't suddenly become 3 cmc just because you can't use them that turn.
@@Ryne91 I actively disagree, entering tapped is costing you a mana
@@spudster8887 you can disagree, but it's not actually true unless you're playing cEDH. What you're saying amounts to "Rampant Growth is bad because it puts a land in play tapped"
@@Ryne91 I mean no because it's still 2 mana ramp. Being a 3 mana rock already makes it bad, it entering tapped is a literal death knell without synergy
Harsh Mercy for the knight deck. You’re welcome 😉
Vedalken Humiliator was included because Gimbal gives all your artifact creatures trample. Once you get a couple of Gremlin tokens out, it's like a weird, inverted Overrun of sorts. Still probably worth cutting, but it's a cute trick for a precon.
Love that you still found a way to take a jab at Grave Titan lol, never change.
Grave Titan is never safe
I'm surprised Chief Engineer didn't get brought up for Kasla. Gives all artifact spells convoke. I can see a Kasla deck built around tutoring that thing out and protecting it.
That sounds like a lot of fun!
The Red Terror is a must have for the Call for Backup deck. 2 card combo with Shalai and Hallar.
Don’t forget War Elemental and Heliod, Sun-Crowned. All three are going into my Shalai and Hallar deck.
7:46 can anyone else appreciate how fast he said "blue" 4 times?
Ga ga ga garbo. I cracked up hard.
And yes I knew the quote before you finished saying it. Love it.
YES
Elenda, the Dusk Rose is a Knight. And Blade of Selves in the Backup deck seems a good fit.
Beezy age reveal guys! The Nerds lore Iceberg is growing!
also Brimaz says "each end step" so you can proliferate 4 times in a turncycle
Important to note for Magda and convoke, that she DOES sort of tap for 2 mana... provided that mana is being used for 2 separate spells. Since costs are all paid collectively magda's trigger won't create the treasure in time for you to also use THAT to pay the costs for the spell you tapped magda for, but once the spell is paid for and on the stack you'll have the treasure and can use it for anything else.
This is very true
Amber and precons!! Lets go!!!
Best combo confirmed?
Sidar just jumps from the griffen to a pegasus.
Teferris ageless insight and the other thing with the same effect is just strsight up card advantage in this deck. Reccomend %100.
that sounds very good
Alhammaret's Archive is the original version that you're thinking of btw
@@blaarfengaar thx. They are both pretty broken when your commander just says draw a card from the command zone.
@@skullkrusher-dx4kg absolutely, I have Alhammaret's in my Kruphix deck and the value it provides is absolutely absurd
I think Wintermoor Commander is far better than they are making it out to be.....2 Mana 2 power, deathtouch, increasing toughness and the best part giving indestructible to a knight...... This is a dude that you sling and let attack creatures trigger, I like the card especially for 2
As someone who has played the backup deck… the wurm is fantastic!!
Swap bright palm for shalai and halar and the deck becomes easily the most powerful and definitely has the best potential considering it has 3 two-card infinite combos with the commander and goes crazy with things like mana gorger hydra or cathars crusade
Exactly how I’m building it
"Oh boy I'm looking forward to get the convoke deck!"😀
NN: "Convoke deck is the worst one"
🙃
I think they are wrong
Amber she can purr anytime. As long as she is double sleeved in dragon shield on cool stuff Inc.
Always double sleeve your cats!
Not sure what the issue is with Revolt. If something died by, say, sacrifice, you get a super-scry. I'd probably use it at 3 mana, but if you very much don't need lands (or do), this is one great way to make whatever you need more likely each turn.
guessing knights will be the best precon
20% chance you are right 👀
Thisss is the only one video I had being waiting all over the internet
Welp, here it is!
Not sure if it was in the decklist or not but Scaretiller fits perfectly in the convoke deck
thanks for the hard work! ❤
I don’t think you guys portrayed convoke very well, the mechanic is good it’s just there’s not many good cards with convoke
I feel like that's exactly what they said. The issue is that you have to play bad cards.
I always try the new "premium sleeves" that come out and I always prefer my dragon shields.
Tinker time is way better than anyone at the table expected. I was so pissed at divine convocation, I was looking forward to it and it is trash out of the box.
Sidar is a Jacked up Varina
and the deck plays exactly like my zombie deck
freaking hell the deck comes with zombies even
look up a varina deck list when making this deck
(they messed up cutting low cmc knights in my opinion)
Love that you guys mentioned one of my favorite cards, Intruder Alarm. When I heard about the convoke deck, I hoped we’d get a reprint. But, nope.
FYI the Kibo promo is half the cost of the normal version. The promo is about $2.
That’s…. Weird but yeah
@@jamesgratz4771 they gave them out during the release, so I think they’re are a lot of them.
C'mon beezy the task at hand is chasing birds xd
32:25 with Wojek Embermage (pings with Radiance) or Izzet Staticaster you basically board wide every turn (and also Polymorphist's Jest)
Call for Backup deck feeds on any ETB payoff, like triggered abilities duplicators
Bright-Palm is the brother to Light-paws or maybe a distant cousin !! lol
For Calvary charge I ended up putting in the circle of loyalty seems to fit well
Wym convoke sucks have you heard of hogaak lol
"Wym [bad mechanic] sucks? Have you heard of [single good card with that mechanic]?"
@@SWAT6809 you missed the lol at the end
Feel like i could make a whole list of example of this though
Chrome mox
Ragavan
Mindbreak trap
Nykthos
Cyclonic rift
The channel lands
The pitch elementals
Mystic remora
Chant has actually saved my butt already but I totally see your point 😆 it's ridiculously expensive
I was waiting 4 your review guys, really love your videos❤
We love doing these!
How about Encroahing Myosynth in the Gimbal Gremlin deck? Turns all nonland permanents you control into artifacts. Then if you have Ghirapur Aether Grid out there you can tap all permanents to deal damage to the face. Also considering adding Kar, Living Legacy PW.
I understand the idea of taking out Arvad the cursed from the knights precon. But the fact the deck does start with 10 legendary creatures has gotta count for something! Definitely a bummer he doesn’t count himself for the +2/+2
There is an Invasion of Xerex! It even flips into a Knight. It's not a GOOD battle, but still
Brimaz can proliferate at the end of EACH end step
Haakon fits in the precon right? Loot him into the yard, then play him out and start playing other knights too. He’s not mass reanimating but it still seems good.
He's included in the deck
@@patrickmurphy8604 lol I should have checked the deck list. Ty!
There are some places now that are presaling some of these decks for almost 80 now.
- I wouldn't be surprised if the Blight Titan art was originally cancelled Grave Titan art...
- Very surprised how much Kalonian Hydra is these days when I bought it in the dollar bulk rares box at my LGS a few years ago
- Conclave Sledge-Captain getting drunk with his Selesnya friends after a long day in the club: ''Baby got to backup backup backup that mammoth...''
- Esper/Mardu Knight Tribal= Awesome :P
"Does the griffin then ride the horse?" "I think so" 🤣🤣😂
Funny I think Kasla is the best deck there, probably only Shalai and Hallad or whatever their name is is better.
Great video.. thanks guys. This set of commander decks seem super medium.
Will we ever get the old precon upgrades back?
We like doing them but interest in individual precon videos has died down over the years!
Ashnod's Altar works so well in Brimaz, it shoulda been reprinted in the deck! I am sad he got Phyrexianized though.
Wouldn't phyrexian altar be more on flavour 😂😂
Tinker Time has GREAT tools. I missed out on cards like the Golden Goose, I get the deck for that alone.
Would love to see the nerds upgrade the backup commander precon with shalai and hallar as the commander
I knew Jeskai was going to get the weakest rating. The face commander is so cool, exciting, and visually appealing. Hopefully convoke gets more support.
The backup commander for the Naya deck is really good...
I have both the gimbal artifacts deck and the knights deck, and i always felt the artifacts were underperforming! I was very surprised when it got #2. Could you give a quick explanation of why its good? I dont really see it myself, nor with gimbal himself.
As for the knights, i wanted to cut arvad but i realized if i ever had him i should bring out sidhar jabari and use them together. Other than the commander, he doesnt synergize with anything. That said, synergizing with such a good commander was enough for me to keep him in. Thoughts?
I like how in magic, Chinese knights are just so much better than all other knights at riding horses to the point where they are literally untouchable even if both are on horseback.
nerds you got some constant static noise on the mics in the beginning. :o gets better later, but just a heads up
Flight of Equinauts wasn't even played in the draft environment it was in. Need I say more?
I’m so glad this video exists… I was debating which one to get
Hope it helped at least!
Surprised to see you so low on the new Brimaz. I'm very excited to build around it, it has so many unusual synergies, so many ways to build around it... I think it's a really cool commander.
Black white artifact creatures can be a real thing. Plus I think he’s decent in the 99 of decks like Urza Chief artiificer. My artifact creature deck will be happy to have him!
I know its a meme at this point but i think horsemanship is pretty much just a skill indicator, the idea being that the creature is skilled enough to outmaneuver other creatures.
What about someone who smiths wills?
Bro elf is my favorite Christmas movie!!
Used to watch it every Christmas!
nerds i know this is off the charts but is anhelo a fun commander and would you recommend?
Yes. They have a precon upgrade video that I tweaked a bit, and it is really fun to play. Copying spells that you wouldn’t normally play is a good time, especially adding flying sharks into the mix 😂
He’s fun but requires a token generator and spells to copy on top of the normal ramp removal card draw. Found it to be a little clunky but when it was fun it was fun
@@kevinholmes3587 yeah, i noticed this too as i was recently building it. any recommendations for something similar in grixis?
I've played some Anhelo but I suffered a lot from the "wrong half problem", either you draw your token makers or creatures to sacrifice or your spells, but not enough of both, and you also get attacked a lot since your board is usually weaker than creature decks. I'm trying Abaddon now, he seems like a sweet Grixis commander.
@@lunarlight3131 Kess and Parnesse are both fine, I turned mine into Rootha
Horses are so majestic that the creatures riding them can only be blocked by creatures that are accustomed to their majesty.
No mention of path of the pyromancer? (And the other paths btw, all except blue are various flavours of fine even outside planechase)
History of benallia is a good addition for the esper deck as well
U forgot city on fire, which is work well with impact tremor in the convoke deck
Ty I am deciding what to get. May be none.
Blight Titan will be memed on more than Grave Titan
"In a deck where my job is to make massive trampling gremlin tokens that would love to overrun someones board, why on earth would I want something that makes my opponents board 1/1's with no abilities" - Galdalf probably
The big issue I see for the phyrexian deck is if we will see them or incubate again. The convoke deck feels like it's missing some things, additional gripe the face commander is an ALLY when's the next ally set? No pressing complaints for the other three.
Incubate has terrifying synergy with token REPLACEMENT like Jinnie?
Mondrak doesn’t work with incubate, right? You get the incubator tokens but they don’t enter with counters on them